sdf posted a message in discord assuring that they understand the importance of duo queue to the player base: "After monitoring players feedback throughout the day, we've seen players love for duo matchmaking. I won't ignore it. Although there are practical difficulties, we will think more about the idea" He later followed up with: "Let's solve this by increasing the number of players as it makes the game better." discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/989065417161048084/1209666023561633872
after this vid dropped, SDF posted again in general chat that they have heard player feedback regarding duo queue. he didn't commit to anything, but it sounds like they are rethinking the removal of duos. leaving this here in case any comment readers missed it. great summary by Ryan as always
They take Duo's out, there's gonna be a hole where playerbase was. Nobody really wants to be forced into Trio's against "Content Creators" who run full Gold and think anybody lower geared is just scum.
A huge L. If it was having population issues, they should have pushed their matchmaking system first to incentivize grouping. Though I firmly believe a solid steam release will solve all of these problems.
@@Rikuto01 u may be right abt the steam release increasing population but i feel dark and darker is not a newbie friendly game in the sense if ur shit and dont put in time to learn you would rage and quit, because to be honest most casual players don't feel like playing a hardcore pvpve game unless they really enjoy the genre/playstyle but 100% a steam release would at least increase population at the start by a lot depending on advertisements and sponsors they are able to do but most of the new players would get bored after a week or 2 and the grinders/some casuals would stay.
@@matpat1232 Those factors taken into account, the population increase would still be exponential. I'm sure Ironmace is fully aware of this, it's just a slog getting through the legal crap to make it happen.
Duos always felt full but I did see a lot of solos appear after the removal of map selection. I don't think many people like the feel of the GC right now. Could be wrong but that's the vibe I get.
This is genuinely why i went into Ice caves as a solo. I did not like the goblin slinger or archer so much, it propelled me into ice caves. The map is pretty eh, but I much prefer the look and feel of ice caves. Plus its a bit longer
The reason you see this is because its safer to play duos ice cave than solo goblin caves because you run into players less and theres a ton of easy exits. Why risk your ap when its free with no enemies in the cave? The cave is so dense with mobs, you can almost always escape without dying to players.
Gear insurance and the expressman sound really really cool. hopefully its balanced well. it should be like 1 or 2 items max being sent bag, and maybe not armor or weapons but small trinkets and rings. similar to tarkov's now included BTR, where you can send items back but only in a small space, and the space gets larger the more rep you have with the scavs. so something similar would be really cool
Removing duo would be absolutely terrible. Forcing anybody that normally duos to either queue snipe or trio with a random who they could kill or could just kill them without a real consequence would be insanely bad for the game.
I feel like every time they're on the right track to getting the game where it needs to go they get "scared" about stagnation or slightly dwindling playercounts and do something drastic to the detriment of the game. I absolutely hate the direction it's going and am worried about the longevity of it with all these decisions.
Eventually, you will stop playing any game. Is that progress worthless since you're not playing it anymore? I don't think so... It also makes gear fear and loss less devastating, losing everything in your stash hurts but is okay because it's all going away at wipe anyways. Also, look for the perm progress you keep: game skill, game knowledge, cosmetics, experience making it easier to stay calm, better decision making, etc.
@@littlemonztergaming8665 I understand your perspective but this is a simple matter of percieved wasted effort. it may only take a few games to get all my characters to 15 again but its tedious.
Hopefully some of those "trials" involve making caster wizard viable again. Really baffling that wizard is a fucking melee class currently because of staff mastery 🙄
I get that they're testing all of this stuff out, but is their playerbase really so small that they need to do it on the main branch? Why doesn't the blacksmith launcher have an beta branch we can opt into for unstable updates?
I finally cleared all my characters' rank to wanderer. (aside from my main hitting demigod) But I fear the region select changes, because I can hear the gold farmers.
on the backburner, they said they wanted to do a lot more balancing before putting in training system, which would include multi classing, cuz it would also break the game
@@TheCosmicAstro- I mean, if they don't. They lose a large amount of players flat out. They can't afford to fuck around with Dungeonborne on the horizon. SOmebody needs to get the chimps out of the decision making room
@@Lecruidant dungeonborne has a long way to go. dark and darker even in its fumbling state is far better. But yeah if they go through with removing duos they will lose a very very large % of their playerbase. Theyd be better off removing trios. Statistically it is the least played mode. Solos is the most popular with duos being the second most
Thanks Ironmace, even since they introduced duo queues, it's been a blast playing with my friend because we've always queued into trio crypts. It's back to be terrible experience. Devs do not know what they are doing /want with their game.
4:00 Bro, one look at the AP scores of the top 10 on leaderboard across all 3 modes will tell you exactly how popular duos is. Don't get me wrong I love duos but it's not different enough from trios to warrant splitting the playerbase (in IM's eyes). Personally I think this is a bad move - and so is auto-fill. No one is going to use the matchmaking and those who do will no doubt encounter peak toxicity. IM thinks people who play duos now will just migrate to trios and use the auto-fill - like that's the only reason they were playing duos before. That's pretty shallow thinking - duos offers a unique dynamic and favours classes that trios doesn't. I also think a lot of people won't want to play with randoms. They will just go play solos or they will push as a 2-man in trios. Having no prior interaction with your "teammates" is a recipe for failure and it will create a tiered playerbase between stacks and auto-fills like we saw in old days of Overwatch 1 - where 5-stacks would just absolutely roll auto-fill groups of the same individual skill-level (go figure). Maybe it could be popular in Normals and people could meet their future squad there, but I just don't see people being confident and trusting enough to jump into HR with a total stranger whom you know nothing about and have no idea of their skill level or general strategy - and that's ignoring any potential for actual griefing. Maybe at the very very top in Demigod you will quickly come to "know" everyone you get matched with but down in Pathfinder shit is gonna be cutthroat. Think of how like in WoW at the top level people actually regularly PUG +23s and higher because it's the same 50 people playing with eachother, but the +15 to +20 bracket is the most toxic and elitist place in the whole game. DaD is _not_ a "make friends" kind of game. The only friends here are the ones you come in with.
@@lazyaussie2818 That still doesn't solve a disparity in skill/playstyle. There are more people than you think hitting Demigod who are terrified of PvP and/or avoid it like the plague - then there are people who hit Demigod by just specifically farming players and nothing else. Match those 2 people together and you have a recipe for disaster - especially so if they are not compensating by over-communicating through VC. Total strangers with no prep-time and mutually exclusive playstyles.... what could go wrong? Auto-fill is for people who want to jump right into the action - if you have to spend 20 minutes discussing strategy, skill synergy and build compatibility then that defeats the purpose of the feature and it will be dead-on-arrival.
If Duos go, I wont play anymore... I've been playing since day 1 with my buddy and if that cant be a thing... neither will your game in my playlist. What a silly change.
Not a fan of duo queue removal, seems messed up they force duo teams to run ice maps BS the last few weeks and then do that to them. Time gating I guess is fine, but kinda limits grinding and starting boss questing early (especially with how long boss quests take because of RNG and 3 tier dungeons). Item insurance is just going to promote running in storm to die, but not the end of the world. Finally, wtf are they thinking extending wipe 3 weeks 😂 I get they need time for preparing content - how bout you jsut do a wipe then a major content patch when you’re ready instead of just extending the doggo state of the game rn. Some of these changes just make me roll my eyes. I love the game, and sure the devs are doing what they can but seems forward thinking is a little limited over there. We’ll see how this next season looks, I’m excited. Hoping we get our end of season rewards before wipe so we can enjoy something for the two weeks lol
I would love insurance for all the times I don’t get to extract from GC, which has been a lot this wipe. Also imma feel real bad for all the new people playing in normal lobbies getting clapped by barbarians due to the ranked normal lobby.
yeah looks like I'm done with dark and darker for good. Duo queue is the only thing I play solo is boring and I don't have 3 friends who can play all the time just one of my friends actually likes this game and random queuing sounds like hell pretty much a waste of time to play now well was fun while it lasted.
@@testytea6138 Its' no more crying that you commenting to just find a third, like it's some sort of Band-Aid for the removal of a queue feature implemented by a development team that has no idea wtf they want their game to be
yeah, I also have a needle dick, but I fuck like a sewing machine so it's just water under the fridge at this point. there are maybe at best 10k ppl that play this 14% of ppl want to play trios and for those that do have teams, it's just simple math that finding 2 other players that can play in my lobbies is not a high likelihood. Mostly like by your comments you are the problem I speak of in gaming lol@@testytea6138
Removing duos is an obvious L. Really dumb decision(if they go through with it). but focusing on Ice ABYSS is REALLY bad. Hell is already the worst map in the game and the ice caverns version of that is going to be terrible. If they really want to add another map, do ice village, so we can stop being forced to deal with ice caverns and probably have an actual decent map out of it as well(given its anything like ruins). I still have hope that dark and darker will end up as a good game but with some of these things theyre testing, leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The fact they even considered removing duos for instance. Focusing on releasing druid is a really fun thing. Have been waiting for druid for quite some time and hopefully its a lot of fun. Hopefully instead of focusing on maps, ironmace decides to focus on the HEALTH of the core game. Gear, Class balance, Etc.
Removing server selection is a big L. My buddie recently got stationed in japan so we switch severs all the time based on the time of day to give us more full lobies, since the huge time difference can make one of us be playing at 0200 in the morning with dead servers.
I don't care about new content or class balancing. I would just like the lag/stuttering to stop. Thats my only complaint. K thanks love your game please fix.
Why are they so obsessed with "drastic" changes to balance? like have they actually not learned? haha Like to me what makes sense is if we are all about collecting and using data, wouldn't we want the data to make sense? Instead of just random drastic peaks and valleys on our graphs? xD Like imagine they just toned things up or down slowly tweaking the numbers bit by bit while monitoring the data.. wouldn't it be much more readable? Especially if they didn't mention the changes so there was no placebo effects... Just seems really weird to me to talk about all the data they have when I can't see it being much use. "ahhh if we give barbarians max run speed and 300 hp with 80% damage reduction its a little strong" "hey I know lets give them a club and a shield!" I'm not going to sit here and claim that league of legends is the most balanced game in the world... but they do a pretty good job of balancing quite A LOT of factors and variables in what is quite honestly an extremely complicated game. If you look at their balance patches, most of it is tiny changes so they can monitor data and see what happens with win rates on champions/items etc(survival rates etc in d&d) and they often say "we are doing this and will be monitoring it closely" I just think ironmace could learn a thing or two from riot, and league of legends. But I don't know exactly what they do or how they use their data so who knows to be sure.. but just seems off to me.
I believe they're tailoring player expectations to be "drastic" so there's not too much complaining about the changes. This is the only opportunity to do the more wild changes and not effect people's seasons before they have test servers... During normal wipe, they do change the numbers slowly and monitor already.
Its a shame, the wipe date should've been announced far in advance. Most people I've been playing with in the last month have started running kits into the grave just hailmarying for fun/troll since they expected a wipe @ end of season. That and the fact that the season is "over" during that part of the wipe, the pop for the 2 week lay over will probably be too low to even enjoy the game in certain regions (oce for example already has population problems)
There are some players who will lament the loss of duos, but in my experience, the lobbies were sporadically populated at best. Duos were an experiment that failed to gain traction despite having a devoted niche player base.
Idk bout y’all but I’m dropping this dogshit game till they stop messing with it. Server issues, code issues, meta issues, buffing meta issues, nerfing too hard, un nerfing and making it broken again for no reason, the boring community, the negative community, the match making system and waiting 20 mins for players to stop being class picky and invite you, can skip the looting system if you know how to make gold flipping small objects into bigger objects which gives you money to buy kits u didn’t get in the dungeon, the karma system and how u can’t report players if u already have a red name so now you can get bullied without power to defend yourself, I got my red name from killing a player who stole my cape from my kill and mocked me standing in a static exit entrance and now everyone thinks I’m a morally bad team8 when it’s the opposite, the most shitty no reason map rotations, adding map rotation, taking away map rotation just to add a worse version, things that were said were gonna be in wipe is in fact multiple wipes away. The ranked system is trash, getting punished she’s for pvping for kits cause you don’t get ap from getting gold gear. So now you can play ranked and fight multiple teams and god through war for absolutely shit ap, the teaming was stupid and cringe, players would focus you out telling everyone to get you cause u tried killing the friendly teamer like your supposed to. The fact they added a map were u walk slow af? The fact a crossbow skeleton does more damage than actual in game bosses, I could probably keep going but holy fuck is this boring to type out when I don’t even play it anymore, I wasn’t a bad player either so I’m not crying cause a skill issue.
Look forward to seeing your return when it gets it's official 1.0 release, a lot of players should wait for that but instead choose to complain and be impatient.
@@littlemonztergaming8665 Do you know what feedback is? You're in a paid beta test at this point. It's the players rights to "bitch" and complain. Because IM is making dogshit decisions
that is such bullshit 6:02 They need to nerf wizard firy weapon magic staff one shot bullshit. I was FULL epic and legendary plate gear with fighter and got one shot just like you did in this video WTF. Honestly I don't care about this game anymore if a wizard runs into melee with a full epic plate fighter and one shots that fighter. It doesn't make sense. Garbage game
I don't think half of these people even played the playtests, there was no reason for duos to begin with. Why cant people actually enjoy the challenge of the game, just play duos in trios like the rest of us did in the playtests.
Okay so you're basing how the game SHOULD be off of how it was during early EA phases of development? Great logic. Having solos, duos, and trios adds an incredible amount of depth to the game and makes different classes shine in different scenarios. One could argue it makes balance equally more difficult and easy simultaneously. Because more classes will have value in one or the other. It's healthy for the game. This might be a shocker to some people but dwindling population is also due to little to no marketing for the game and surprise surprise but there are other fixes aside from simply gutting game modes.
@@testytea6138 "We HAD high pop" Oh idk, maybe people left because IM is run by monkeys? Funny how you talk shit about Duo's though, when they are the fastest filling lobbies you can get.
sdf posted a message in discord assuring that they understand the importance of duo queue to the player base: "After monitoring players feedback throughout the day, we've seen players love for duo matchmaking. I won't ignore it.
Although there are practical difficulties, we will think more about the idea"
He later followed up with: "Let's solve this by increasing the number of players as it makes the game better."
discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/989065417161048084/1209666023561633872
I don’t know about everyone else, but I wanted a wipe now.
Same
Yep
shit devs
We all did but there not ready
@@kingabstract2288there?
after this vid dropped, SDF posted again in general chat that they have heard player feedback regarding duo queue. he didn't commit to anything, but it sounds like they are rethinking the removal of duos. leaving this here in case any comment readers missed it. great summary by Ryan as always
Thanks for the heads up, I think if they remove duos a lot of people will be mad, cuz duos players would be kinda of fked even tho there's not many
Euthafro my king, thank u for being who u are
Classic case of them talking too fast
They take Duo's out, there's gonna be a hole where playerbase was. Nobody really wants to be forced into Trio's against "Content Creators" who run full Gold and think anybody lower geared is just scum.
I really hope they don’t remove duos.
I think it's good for iron mace to test out the changes with the higher gear level before they wipe
Its a great way to go about it. Opposite to what The Cycle devs did, adding major content and balance changes untested on wipe day
removing duos would be an L
A huge L. If it was having population issues, they should have pushed their matchmaking system first to incentivize grouping. Though I firmly believe a solid steam release will solve all of these problems.
@@Rikuto01 it could be well over a year before it can get back on steam.
@@Rikuto01 u may be right abt the steam release increasing population but i feel dark and darker is not a newbie friendly game in the sense if ur shit and dont put in time to learn you would rage and quit, because to be honest most casual players don't feel like playing a hardcore pvpve game unless they really enjoy the genre/playstyle but 100% a steam release would at least increase population at the start by a lot depending on advertisements and sponsors they are able to do but most of the new players would get bored after a week or 2 and the grinders/some casuals would stay.
@@matpat1232 Those factors taken into account, the population increase would still be exponential. I'm sure Ironmace is fully aware of this, it's just a slog getting through the legal crap to make it happen.
@@matpat1232 steam release is the way.
Please don't take away my fucking duos good god😭😭
Duos always felt full but I did see a lot of solos appear after the removal of map selection. I don't think many people like the feel of the GC right now. Could be wrong but that's the vibe I get.
Thats the problem with the map selection/rotation and their stupid AP system - not the duo queue itself.
goblin is trash now , low amount of portals, only few static
as someone who recently grinded to demigod solo, GC was so booty cheeks actual pvp death match to get a portal lol
This is genuinely why i went into Ice caves as a solo. I did not like the goblin slinger or archer so much, it propelled me into ice caves. The map is pretty eh, but I much prefer the look and feel of ice caves. Plus its a bit longer
The reason you see this is because its safer to play duos ice cave than solo goblin caves because you run into players less and theres a ton of easy exits. Why risk your ap when its free with no enemies in the cave? The cave is so dense with mobs, you can almost always escape without dying to players.
Gear insurance and the expressman sound really really cool. hopefully its balanced well. it should be like 1 or 2 items max being sent bag, and maybe not armor or weapons but small trinkets and rings. similar to tarkov's now included BTR, where you can send items back but only in a small space, and the space gets larger the more rep you have with the scavs. so something similar would be really cool
So weird they taking away duos. Now me and my pal will have to play trios as two people.
Nothing better than starting my day or shift with a hey whats going on gamers
was waiting for this video to come out, thanks!
ooh that surg bait was pretty resourceful. nice one
Removing duo would be absolutely terrible. Forcing anybody that normally duos to either queue snipe or trio with a random who they could kill or could just kill them without a real consequence would be insanely bad for the game.
I wish they would make the starting map for HR crypts again... I miss hell fights and the 5x5 crypts maps.
Extending the longest wipe to date by another month on top of that removing duo's can't say I'm excited for next wipe in the slightest
It's also the first wipe with perm cosmetic rewards, giving players a chance to get those.
@@littlemonztergaming8665 3 months is long enough. Hell 2 months is far too long. I got Demi in 2 days with little to no issue.
What all gets lost from a wipe? Should I invest my gold into stash slots or will I lose that too?
Didnt know about the additional messages in discord with all the details of whats to come.
So we're gonna test new features before wipe if we're lucky lol
Removing duos removes my interest in the game. What a shame.
GEORGE PROVIDES
Does this mean we have another week to get to demigod potentially? I am Exemplar II lol
yes.
@@sirlanceem Nice..
@@sirlanceem So then when is the timer going to reflect that. Because that might just mean a week before the rewards go out after the timer is up
nice informational video, thx
So do we keep all our items we earned from leaderboards or will that be wiped as well I’m confused??
I feel like every time they're on the right track to getting the game where it needs to go they get "scared" about stagnation or slightly dwindling playercounts and do something drastic to the detriment of the game. I absolutely hate the direction it's going and am worried about the longevity of it with all these decisions.
Can we please get a bag of holding to save an item we want? Even if its just one? Aka alpha container.
I got a buddy and we bought this game to play it together as 2 adventurers duo queue u will be missed 😢😢😢
I love this game. Now me and my partner will have the pleasure to fight against juicy golden geared trios just because devs decided that "fuck duos!".
368 L's really says a lot about duos being removed
Some news about the Skill Tree?
I completely understand pretty much every wipe they've done but its so hard to get deeply involved in the game knowing my progress is for naught
Eventually, you will stop playing any game. Is that progress worthless since you're not playing it anymore?
I don't think so...
It also makes gear fear and loss less devastating, losing everything in your stash hurts but is okay because it's all going away at wipe anyways. Also, look for the perm progress you keep:
game skill, game knowledge, cosmetics, experience making it easier to stay calm, better decision making, etc.
@@littlemonztergaming8665 I understand your perspective but this is a simple matter of percieved wasted effort. it may only take a few games to get all my characters to 15 again but its tedious.
So we dont get the rewards until next month?
youre welcome for watching
Love the fact that me and my friend are going to have to duo trio que -_-
Amazing !!!!!
Hopefully some of those "trials" involve making caster wizard viable again. Really baffling that wizard is a fucking melee class currently because of staff mastery 🙄
I get that they're testing all of this stuff out, but is their playerbase really so small that they need to do it on the main branch? Why doesn't the blacksmith launcher have an beta branch we can opt into for unstable updates?
finally my beloved druid will come to the dungeon
Nice 👍
If they remove duos im done, i just want to play with my only other friend I have. Solo is lackluster and boring
1:43 the way I could instantly tell that was an AI image
If they feel like not having enough players to sustain duos, thus removing it, why add ranked normals splitting matchmakinv even more?
I finally cleared all my characters' rank to wanderer.
(aside from my main hitting demigod)
But I fear the region select changes, because I can hear the gold farmers.
is the normal 3v3 map going to return?
Training system? Where is it?
on the backburner, they said they wanted to do a lot more balancing before putting in training system, which would include multi classing, cuz it would also break the game
They walked back on removing duos, sdf wrote an update in discord
they didnt quite 100% walk back. But said they will try to think about it. a good sign but were not quite out of the woods yet.
@@TheCosmicAstro- I mean, if they don't. They lose a large amount of players flat out. They can't afford to fuck around with Dungeonborne on the horizon. SOmebody needs to get the chimps out of the decision making room
@@Lecruidant dungeonborne has a long way to go.
dark and darker even in its fumbling state is far better.
But yeah if they go through with removing duos they will lose a very very large % of their playerbase.
Theyd be better off removing trios. Statistically it is the least played mode. Solos is the most popular with duos being the second most
I think normals should allow for up to green gear instead of just white.
Thanks Ironmace, even since they introduced duo queues, it's been a blast playing with my friend because we've always queued into trio crypts. It's back to be terrible experience. Devs do not know what they are doing /want with their game.
the surgical baits to bait those fake friendly players 😝
Why remove duos... I do not see the logic behind a decision like that.
Would be cool if they added a sort of betting system for the arena. You can look at both players/teams gear and place a bet on who you think will win.
Then you could rig it and get infinite gold :c
4:00 Bro, one look at the AP scores of the top 10 on leaderboard across all 3 modes will tell you exactly how popular duos is. Don't get me wrong I love duos but it's not different enough from trios to warrant splitting the playerbase (in IM's eyes). Personally I think this is a bad move - and so is auto-fill. No one is going to use the matchmaking and those who do will no doubt encounter peak toxicity.
IM thinks people who play duos now will just migrate to trios and use the auto-fill - like that's the only reason they were playing duos before. That's pretty shallow thinking - duos offers a unique dynamic and favours classes that trios doesn't. I also think a lot of people won't want to play with randoms. They will just go play solos or they will push as a 2-man in trios. Having no prior interaction with your "teammates" is a recipe for failure and it will create a tiered playerbase between stacks and auto-fills like we saw in old days of Overwatch 1 - where 5-stacks would just absolutely roll auto-fill groups of the same individual skill-level (go figure).
Maybe it could be popular in Normals and people could meet their future squad there, but I just don't see people being confident and trusting enough to jump into HR with a total stranger whom you know nothing about and have no idea of their skill level or general strategy - and that's ignoring any potential for actual griefing. Maybe at the very very top in Demigod you will quickly come to "know" everyone you get matched with but down in Pathfinder shit is gonna be cutthroat. Think of how like in WoW at the top level people actually regularly PUG +23s and higher because it's the same 50 people playing with eachother, but the +15 to +20 bracket is the most toxic and elitist place in the whole game.
DaD is _not_ a "make friends" kind of game. The only friends here are the ones you come in with.
they could make penalties to team killing, such as being unable to join another party for 30 minutes if you team kill.
Maybe there will be a seperate auto-fill q?
@@lazyaussie2818 That still doesn't solve a disparity in skill/playstyle. There are more people than you think hitting Demigod who are terrified of PvP and/or avoid it like the plague - then there are people who hit Demigod by just specifically farming players and nothing else. Match those 2 people together and you have a recipe for disaster - especially so if they are not compensating by over-communicating through VC. Total strangers with no prep-time and mutually exclusive playstyles.... what could go wrong?
Auto-fill is for people who want to jump right into the action - if you have to spend 20 minutes discussing strategy, skill synergy and build compatibility then that defeats the purpose of the feature and it will be dead-on-arrival.
@@graysaltine6035it will balance out over time
the insurance fraud finna be crazy
If Duos go, I wont play anymore... I've been playing since day 1 with my buddy and if that cant be a thing... neither will your game in my playlist. What a silly change.
They need a fill button
No duo, no play!
Will ranger be good in the new normal lobbies?
You have near unlimited traps you can bring, yeah.
Here lets make our least liked map duos only and than be confused as to why no one is playing duos, makes perfect sense
Will I be able to join a match with my friend if he's in the uk?
Adding a pvp arena will only make the lobbies not filling up issue even worse 😭
Fuck dark and darker for making us wait another month
Not a fan of duo queue removal, seems messed up they force duo teams to run ice maps BS the last few weeks and then do that to them. Time gating I guess is fine, but kinda limits grinding and starting boss questing early (especially with how long boss quests take because of RNG and 3 tier dungeons). Item insurance is just going to promote running in storm to die, but not the end of the world. Finally, wtf are they thinking extending wipe 3 weeks 😂 I get they need time for preparing content - how bout you jsut do a wipe then a major content patch when you’re ready instead of just extending the doggo state of the game rn. Some of these changes just make me roll my eyes. I love the game, and sure the devs are doing what they can but seems forward thinking is a little limited over there. We’ll see how this next season looks, I’m excited. Hoping we get our end of season rewards before wipe so we can enjoy something for the two weeks lol
Nice video
I hope they don’t remove duos.
Im voyager 2 hopefully I can get demigod
I would love insurance for all the times I don’t get to extract from GC, which has been a lot this wipe. Also imma feel real bad for all the new people playing in normal lobbies getting clapped by barbarians due to the ranked normal lobby.
The barbs will get pushed to the higher ranks, is oki
that squire AI picture is so bad
yeah looks like I'm done with dark and darker for good. Duo queue is the only thing I play solo is boring and I don't have 3 friends who can play all the time just one of my friends actually likes this game and random queuing sounds like hell pretty much a waste of time to play now well was fun while it lasted.
The crybabies are here aswell xd just find one more teammate its not that hard. Or play solos while chatting with ur friend (not sniping)
@@testytea6138 He has a valid point.
@@testytea6138 Its' no more crying that you commenting to just find a third, like it's some sort of Band-Aid for the removal of a queue feature implemented by a development team that has no idea wtf they want their game to be
yeah, I also have a needle dick, but I fuck like a sewing machine so it's just water under the fridge at this point. there are maybe at best 10k ppl that play this 14% of ppl want to play trios and for those that do have teams, it's just simple math that finding 2 other players that can play in my lobbies is not a high likelihood. Mostly like by your comments you are the problem I speak of in gaming lol@@testytea6138
Removing duos is an obvious L. Really dumb decision(if they go through with it).
but focusing on Ice ABYSS is REALLY bad. Hell is already the worst map in the game and the ice caverns version of that is going to be terrible.
If they really want to add another map, do ice village, so we can stop being forced to deal with ice caverns and probably have an actual decent map out of it as well(given its anything like ruins).
I still have hope that dark and darker will end up as a good game but with some of these things theyre testing, leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The fact they even considered removing duos for instance.
Focusing on releasing druid is a really fun thing. Have been waiting for druid for quite some time and hopefully its a lot of fun.
Hopefully instead of focusing on maps, ironmace decides to focus on the HEALTH of the core game. Gear, Class balance, Etc.
Removing server selection is a big L. My buddie recently got stationed in japan so we switch severs all the time based on the time of day to give us more full lobies, since the huge time difference can make one of us be playing at 0200 in the morning with dead servers.
They need to somehow bring back tank. I’m wearing some of the best gear possible regarding tank and still I get shredded
You suck then you can still easily hit 60-70% armor on fighter
wipe every 6 weeks
Fast
I don't like the item extraction and recovery service.
I don't care about new content or class balancing. I would just like the lag/stuttering to stop. Thats my only complaint. K thanks love your game please fix.
Why are they so obsessed with "drastic" changes to balance? like have they actually not learned? haha
Like to me what makes sense is if we are all about collecting and using data, wouldn't we want the data to make sense? Instead of just random drastic peaks and valleys on our graphs? xD
Like imagine they just toned things up or down slowly tweaking the numbers bit by bit while monitoring the data.. wouldn't it be much more readable? Especially if they didn't mention the changes so there was no placebo effects... Just seems really weird to me to talk about all the data they have when I can't see it being much use. "ahhh if we give barbarians max run speed and 300 hp with 80% damage reduction its a little strong" "hey I know lets give them a club and a shield!"
I'm not going to sit here and claim that league of legends is the most balanced game in the world... but they do a pretty good job of balancing quite A LOT of factors and variables in what is quite honestly an extremely complicated game. If you look at their balance patches, most of it is tiny changes so they can monitor data and see what happens with win rates on champions/items etc(survival rates etc in d&d) and they often say "we are doing this and will be monitoring it closely"
I just think ironmace could learn a thing or two from riot, and league of legends. But I don't know exactly what they do or how they use their data so who knows to be sure.. but just seems off to me.
I believe they're tailoring player expectations to be "drastic" so there's not too much complaining about the changes. This is the only opportunity to do the more wild changes and not effect people's seasons before they have test servers... During normal wipe, they do change the numbers slowly and monitor already.
bro if I play anything except europe I am lagging as fuccccfcck unplayable for most eu users then
VPN will prolly help
sao pablo server will be desolated sad time for latam :(
Its a shame, the wipe date should've been announced far in advance. Most people I've been playing with in the last month have started running kits into the grave just hailmarying for fun/troll since they expected a wipe @ end of season. That and the fact that the season is "over" during that part of the wipe, the pop for the 2 week lay over will probably be too low to even enjoy the game in certain regions (oce for example already has population problems)
so normal mode is ranked. that's just plain stupid
games bad 9k playerbase. all those who will cry about this comment below
they are taking to long with this wipe games dying
Haven't played the game in about a month, looks like we're goiong on two now lmfao. This is getting a bit old
There are some players who will lament the loss of duos, but in my experience, the lobbies were sporadically populated at best. Duos were an experiment that failed to gain traction despite having a devoted niche player base.
Idk bout y’all but I’m dropping this dogshit game till they stop messing with it. Server issues, code issues, meta issues, buffing meta issues, nerfing too hard, un nerfing and making it broken again for no reason, the boring community, the negative community, the match making system and waiting 20 mins for players to stop being class picky and invite you, can skip the looting system if you know how to make gold flipping small objects into bigger objects which gives you money to buy kits u didn’t get in the dungeon, the karma system and how u can’t report players if u already have a red name so now you can get bullied without power to defend yourself, I got my red name from killing a player who stole my cape from my kill and mocked me standing in a static exit entrance and now everyone thinks I’m a morally bad team8 when it’s the opposite, the most shitty no reason map rotations, adding map rotation, taking away map rotation just to add a worse version, things that were said were gonna be in wipe is in fact multiple wipes away. The ranked system is trash, getting punished she’s for pvping for kits cause you don’t get ap from getting gold gear. So now you can play ranked and fight multiple teams and god through war for absolutely shit ap, the teaming was stupid and cringe, players would focus you out telling everyone to get you cause u tried killing the friendly teamer like your supposed to. The fact they added a map were u walk slow af? The fact a crossbow skeleton does more damage than actual in game bosses, I could probably keep going but holy fuck is this boring to type out when I don’t even play it anymore, I wasn’t a bad player either so I’m not crying cause a skill issue.
Look forward to seeing your return when it gets it's official 1.0 release, a lot of players should wait for that but instead choose to complain and be impatient.
@@littlemonztergaming8665 Do you know what feedback is? You're in a paid beta test at this point. It's the players rights to "bitch" and complain. Because IM is making dogshit decisions
that is such bullshit 6:02 They need to nerf wizard firy weapon magic staff one shot bullshit. I was FULL epic and legendary plate gear with fighter and got one shot just like you did in this video WTF. Honestly I don't care about this game anymore if a wizard runs into melee with a full epic plate fighter and one shots that fighter. It doesn't make sense. Garbage game
I don't think half of these people even played the playtests, there was no reason for duos to begin with. Why cant people actually enjoy the challenge of the game, just play duos in trios like the rest of us did in the playtests.
This. Duo was never supposed to be a thing. They just added because a lot of people with 1 friend cried and we had high pop
Okay so you're basing how the game SHOULD be off of how it was during early EA phases of development? Great logic. Having solos, duos, and trios adds an incredible amount of depth to the game and makes different classes shine in different scenarios. One could argue it makes balance equally more difficult and easy simultaneously. Because more classes will have value in one or the other. It's healthy for the game. This might be a shocker to some people but dwindling population is also due to little to no marketing for the game and surprise surprise but there are other fixes aside from simply gutting game modes.
@@testytea6138 "We HAD high pop" Oh idk, maybe people left because IM is run by monkeys? Funny how you talk shit about Duo's though, when they are the fastest filling lobbies you can get.
ranks for norms? lmao waste of time