I really doubt Scott's "Final Chapter" was supposed to about a random kid we had no way of knowing even existed at the time, and then Scott would get surprised when we weren't able to figure out what was going on.
The story of the games changed as Scott went on. He said it himself in Dawkos interview. Meanings of things change, let's be honest FNAF4 was definitely supposed to be all a dream but Scott changed that due to it being poorly received and cliche. Scott now has a game that awkwardly fits into none of the other games that he now has to make the story fit in and make sense with all of the other games. Scott made sister location with FNAF4 in mind with the breaker room and private room easter eggs. So, dismissing this video just for that purpose is kind of silly.
@@crhed6328 But didn't Scott say only the contents of the FNAF 4 box changed? I don't remember him saying the plot of FNAF 4 ever changed outside of changing the bite of 87 to the bite of 83 last second before the game released.
Honestly, I never considered the idea of Andrew's importance outside of possibly being a stand-in for Cassidy in the books and while I'm not entirely convinced it'll be correct, it is definitely a solid and satisfying answer unlike what many other theories give. If there is one thing I like about your theories is you consider everything and don't just answer questions with the generic answers like retcon, FNaF doesn't make sense and we don't know yet but trust me. It makes your theories more enjoyable to watch than Matpat's. That and you don't have merch plugs, very hit or miss jokes and a burning desire to prove that BV is a robot somehow. Keep up the great theories.
It's a pretty interesting theory but, springlocks aren't waterproof, plus the scene alludes to "later that night" I always thought it was a follow up to what happened with Charlie, since it coincides with the rainy day and the purple car, being that BV probably saw Charlie's death, but the idea you put forward is also an interesting interpretation.
While it is an interesting theory, and does make some sense, there are lots of issues with it. I do like the idea of Midnight Motorist being a different family entirely, but it seems like a few things disprove it. 1. We know from Sister Location that William Afton himself associates the FNAF 4 room(s) with the date 1983, which has nothing to do with Andrew. 2. Why would it imply so heavily that the FNAF 4 character is dying in a hospital if it was Andrew and not a Bite Victim? 3. If Midnight Motorist is a different family, what does the unmarked pile of dirt mean? What is the bad day that Andrew had before he ran away? Where did he go? Why are there no animatronic footprints going towards or away from the one pair that we see?
Honestly, this is probably one of the biggest FNAF theories i've ever seen. I'm not going to comment any of my theories about this, but if this is actually true, it would be a massive game changer. When you think about this, it makes a giant sense. BUT. In my opinion if this is true, then Scott would make more clues about this. I mean, nobody has actually thought of something like this and it would really change this whole series. I think that the biggest clue is the house in the woods and then the house in a crowded place. I really don't know what to think about it, but for me It is like the biggest thing pointing to this Theory being true. Well, at the end i just want to say that i'm really excited for more theories from you, and i really want to hear your opinion on Security Breach since when i was last watching all of you play SB on Ozones Channel, you didn't seem so Happy, and i totally agree with you on all you said that stream. So yeah, good luck with more content in the future!
Although this is an interesting theory I find it really hard to believe Scott was writing the Fazbear Fright stories during the production of FNAF 6/FFPS & UCN. If this was the case that would mean Fazbear Frights would have been the end of the series if it wasn't for Steelwool wanting to make FNAF VR. You could argue that he had this planned since FNAF 4 but then that would mean Scott purposefully decided to put red herrings in the Midnight Motorists mini game (i.e. The guy on the couch, Purple car, characters text colors lining up with other characters text colors, etc) which is even harder to buy. I feel like it's a lot more likely that this is just another house William owned and William is a lot richer then we thought. You also bring up the player character in Midnight Motorists being yellow and thus it (probably) can't be William Afton. However in FNAF 4 when William is talking to Crying Child/Evan through the Fredbear plushies his text color is yellow. It's the same with the mysterious Yellow Man, he also speaks in yellow text. Another thing you mention is that it didn't make sense for Crying Child/Evan to be the one in the night sequences of FNAF 4. This is gonna sound off topic but just stay with me here. In the files of FNAF 6/FFPS the secret section of Midnight Motorists is called "Later that night". It is widely believed and speculated that this mini game takes place after William kills Charlotte. William then quickly drives home to escape suspicion of being the culprit. I think the "that place" William mentions at the end of Midnight Motorists is Fredbears Family Diner, and William doesn't Crying Child/Evan to be there cause he could recognize William being the one to kill Charlotte. I think the foot prints outside the house is William in the Spring Bonnie suit possibly trying to scare Crying Child/Evan into staying inside the house but this fails because he doesn't find Fredbear & Spring Bonnie scary. When William says "He will be sorry when he gets back." I think that is William hinting at creating the Fredbear plushies and, illusion disks to make the animatronics look scary to Crying Child/Evan. From now on whenever Crying Child/Evan goes to sleep William brings him down to these rooms (that are the night sequences in FNAF 4) and uses the illusion disks to scare Crying Child/Evan from ever wanting to go back to Fredbears, thus allowing William to get away with more killings. This perfectly explains the Fredbear plushie's (who is actually William and who I will be referring to as William from now on) line of "Remember what you saw?" William has been trying to scare Crying Child/Evan into fearing these characters (so William can kill more kids without the Crying Child around) so the line is referring to just that. In fact when this line is said is a dead give away that that is the case! He tells Crying Child/Evan "Hurry, run toward the exit." if you don't follow his command and run to the left toward the animatronics only then does he say the line "NO! Don't you remember what you saw? The exit is the other way! Hurry and leave." He wants Crying Child/Evan out of the establishment so he can commit more murders. However this falls apart when an actor in a Fredbear suit blocks the exit. This in turn prevents Crying Child/Evan from going that way and screws up Williams plans of getting him out of here when Crying Child/Evan falls to the ground in tears ending the mini game. The next mini game starts off nearly the exact same. Crying Child/Evan is in the restaurant William pretending to be the Fredbear plush guide him out of the restaurant except this time it works and Crying Child/Evan leaves the restaurant, thus allowing William to kill a kid that day. But hold up that's a pretty big statement I'm saying, after all the Missing Childrens Incident happens in 1985 not 1983. However while that is the case there is something too important to over look. In the night 4 mini game in FNAF 4 Crying Child/Evan is locked in the Parts & Service room by Michael. Behind Crying Child/Evan is a suit with some strands of hair sticking out, presumably a dead kid. A kid who died by Williams hand after Crying Child/Evan was safely guided home by his Fredbear plush in night 3's mini game. Now obviously this is very confusing considering the Missing Childrens Incident is said to have taken place in 1985 in bot The Silver Eyes & Into the Pit. So you could make the argument this is when Andrew died however the hair seems to be brown or blond and was made brown to not blend in with the costumes fur color. Or the more likely but controversial answer (that I think is the case) is that the Missing Childrens Incident takes place before the bite of 83 in the game lore, and takes place in 1985 in the book lore because the only two sources saying it took place in 1985 are in the books. I find it hard to believe that Andrew is in the game lore and isn't just the book version counterpart to Cassidy. When you die in UCN and get that rare screen of "The one you shouldn't have killed" the image of the kid shown is one with curly blond hair, Andrew's hair is also curly however it is black. It is also hard to believe the idea of 3 spirits in Golden Freddy/Fredbear considering the piece of evidence we got that helped us figure that out was that the Stitchwraith had two spirits in them. Also in the bad ending to FNAF 3 we see the animatronics heads lit up implying the souls have not been set free, however one small detail we all overlooked back then was that Golden Freddy's head had two lit eyes while the other heads only had one lit eye implying there's two and only two spirits in Golden Freddy. The biggest argument you have in your favor of Andrew and the Missing Childrens Incident being canon to the game lore is that is what is stated to be true in the newest Freddy files book. However I've heard from some online friends on discord that in the same book it also mentions that the Twisted Wolf animatronic from The Twisted Ones is some how Roxanne Wolf which doesn't make any sense and has caused me to dismiss that books info. There were also a lot of errors in the other two The Freddy Files books released before this one so that info about the Fazbear Fright books being canon to the game lore is (most likely) false and possibly made up. Although this video is getting a part two and there has been cases where I didn't believe one of your theories but then you won me over in the second part. I hope this is the case here as well.
Believe it or not, there were some leaks that show Fazbear Frights were in development before and during Pizza Sim's development Search "r/fnaftheories external source tales from the pizzaplex"
@@burner555 don’t worry I found what you were looking for and it’s crazy to think Scott always intended FNAF 6 to not be the end yet crafted the perfect ending to fool us lol
honestly, very good theory Under_Score, Even tho I am still personally am 60/40 on how canon Andrew is to the games (in favour of No). From the POV of him being canon tho, I see this very much could see this being the case. Even tho I may not 100% believe it, it’s still nice to look at FNAF from this new POV. Very good video, good job to you and all who helped in making the video.
Very cool video. but I would like to talk about some points: 1.) You say that William would not use his son in experiments, but this is strange because William is a scientist who went crazy because he found the Remnant and learned its properties. In real life, there were many examples of scientists using their relatives in experiments. It's just plain easier than testing Illusion Discs on strangers or rats. You also mention that Crying Boy couldn't talk about his father's experiences for some reason. Yes, it's strange, but then why didn't the Crying Boy tell anyone that Big Brother was making fun of him and mocking him? Maybe because he understands that no one will listen to him. 2.) Andrew is Runaway Boy. So that sounds good, but you're missing a lot of facts: • In Midnight Racer's files, the phrase "later this night" can be found. In the Security Puppet mini-game, it is fashionable to notice car tracks in the alley. And what do we see at the beginning of Midnight Racer? That's right, a man in a purple car rushing home. Coincidence? I don't think. Also in the cut scenes with Toy Chica, she says, "I told him to come later, that would be enough, and if he doesn't show up, then I'll come to his house, and if he doesn't open the door, then I'll just find the window." A reference to the Midnight Racer? Most likely. • Who then is the person sitting in the chair in Midnight Racer? Just a random character? Scott does not add random characters. In addition, the color of his clothes and text is the same as that of the Elder Brother. 3.) How Crying Boy Sees "Nightmares" In Another House: The house from the FNaF 4 mini-games is not the same as the house from the FNaF 4 gameplay. Yes, that's right. But if you look at the map in the Electrical Room in FNaF Sister Location, you can see three houses at once, located at different ends of the map. You can say that Scott did it on purpose so that there was enough space, but this is stupid because this is a drawing, there cannot be enough space on the drawings. Also, the house from Midnight Racer is similar to the house from the FNaF 4 menu, because they are the same houses, as you said. Knowing that Afton had several houses, it's easy to say that the house from Midnight Racer and the house from the FNaF 4 minigames and FNaF 4 gameplay belong to William. So, everything seems to be. I hope you answer. Sorry if it's not clear, I used google translator.
Honestly, I like this theory. I've never heard something like this before about Midnight Motorist. However, unfortunately there are a lot of clues that point to William being the man in yellow/orange, even though it doesn't make a lot of sense to not use the color purple when it's always been used to represent William... I wish this was true... One of the biggest mysteries of FNAF that has still not been solved...
This theory is more or less as to what I believe, however there are a few issues with Andrew being the victim. In Into The Pit, Andrew is seemingly grouped with the rest of the children, who die in 1985. And in the Toy chica high school years cutscenes he's also grouped with the missing children, meaning he must've died in 1985. Unless William Afton kept him locked in a room for 2 years, Andrew couldn't have been the victim. Since Afton is shown not to care for any of his kids, he would put the bite victim in the room and torment him every night to experiment with his illusions. In fnaf 4, no one treated the crying child seriously, so no one would believe anything he says about the nightmares, plus it could be that the bite victim thought it was all a dream and the nightmares weren't actually there. This theory is really good from a narrative perspective nevertheless.
I really like a whole lot about this theory, though I have the same problem with it that I do with a lot of prevalent theories. I can't conceive that Scott intended it at the time. Why would Scott say "4 games, 1 story" and consider the story complete, if he objectively did not give all the pieces to tell a complete story? Why would he add midnight motorist to help clear up a years old game, only for it to not contain the information needed to clear up that game until he publishes book yet still several years later? It also does not take into account several pieces of information on the table. What is the significance of Chica's missing beak? What about the strange pile of dirt on the side path in midnight motorist? What about Chica seemingly discussing midnight motorist in her "high school years" cutscenes in UCN? When talking about being in love with The Puppet, she describes nearly precisely what happens to the child in midnight motorist. It would seem odd then if the truth of the mini game had nothing to do with either Chica or The Puppet and in fact that cutscene just had nothing to do with anything. Great work overall though. I think its a big step in the right direction. Particularly as it pertains to the fnaf 4 stuff and the gameplay house.
Honestly I think a very ignored and extremely important point to everything in 4 is nightmare. I’m developing a theory and I’m hoping to get it posted to the Reddit soon and I hope it get recognized
I do believe Andrew is the Runaway kid however this needs to be after the MCI due to the Midnight Motorist mini-game in the files being called..."Later that night"
so you are telling me that Andrew a character that has been introduced 6 years after the initial release of fnaf never mentioned until a book epilogue is the main villain of ucn? And that Cassidy just doesn't exist? logical
the kid has been hinted at existing since FNAF World update 2 with the 7 graves, then again in UCN, and again in CoDB, and again in SB. just because we didn't know his name doesn't mean we didn't know he existed, same can be applied to Take Cake kid (Charlotte), or the 5th missing child (Cassidy)
I disagree with the whole video since they was some problems with the points of the video, such as Andrew being the runaway kid, and the kid that experiencing the FNAF 4 nightmares animatronics, I also disagree on your points about the problems of William being the orange guy in midnight motorist. But notherless the video was nice and great, and I'm glad that you post a video today after it been so long.
Pretty good video, personally the only critique I have is that I would’ve liked an explanation as to why Stitchlinegames is correct at the beginning, just so this is a bit more friendly to people that aren’t as familiar with the lore.
In the Night 2 Cutscene, where we play as Evan, the text when we want to see the other side of Fredbear’s, it says “No! Don’t you remember what you saw? The exit is the other way! Hurry and leave.” Did Evan see his father kill Andrew in the dead of night? That could explain why we can’t go the other way in Fredbear’s.
I think you are close but I think Evan or crying child watches Elizabeth's death (the daughter of William) and that could explain why her room is empty.
I've never liked the idea of the orange guy being William Afton. I don't quite agree with this theory, either, but this was a great video & got me thinking once again!
I have a quick question: where did you get the sprites for characters like Andrew, Cassidy, Elizabeth, etc.? Are they free for use? I’d really like to use some.
Nice and interesting theory UnderScore! I really enjoyed it, and it really makes sense with one another lol! Andrew being the runway kid in MM, BV witnesses ing Andrew's death, William forcibly kidnapping Andrew etc. It all fits together. I'm already for Part 2 to come out. Although, I'm little bit convinced with Andrew being TOYSNHK.
Bruh, in FNAF 4 I think we were playing as Andrew but I think it was the same nightmare Michael was having because of maybe Illusion disc but I think it was just his nightmares
the fnaf 4 home screen shows a lone house with no other buildings around so the midnight motorist house could still be the fnaf 4 house. Additionally, the fnaf 1 phone call can be heard in fnaf 4 and the way the animatronics attack the character is more similar to fnaf 1 than ucn. Finally, the lamp, tv, and rug seen in fnaf 4 are also seen in the midnight motorist and sister location. I like this theory, but I don't think scott made fnaf 4 to introduce a random victim, rather to show Michael's trauma and introduce arguably the first event in the series/the reason for William to start murdering.
You know, ive always had this idea that fnaf was like not what it seems at all, i thought maybe it was dream theory, but now, im really not sure. But i actually believe this theory. Unlike most.
I always saw midnight modderist as after the bite , probably 1987 , with the person in the chair being ms.afton and the kid who ran away being Michael, the foot prints being from the crying child appearing as either golden or shadow Freddy in order to lure mike to the jr.s ( the fnaf 2 location ) potentially with the intent of showing him that their father had been killing children, and the mound could be even`s grave as for the significance of " later that night I couldn`d tell ya. But that's just an idea of mine I thought I`d share and put out there
Ok so I had an idea for the midnight motorist minigame. The orange man is William Afton, or atleast Afton when he's not in the shadows abducting children. The child who escapes his room is the Bite Victim, or Evan or whatever. But what about the footprint outside the window? What if that footprint didnt come from William's suit, but Henry's. What if Henry figured out that William was abusing his child and in an attempt to help he dressed up in an old Fredbear suit (like the Glitchtrap suit without springlocks) and took him to Fredbears/Freddy's. Maybe this is why he seems to trust the Fredbear plushie.
I have a theory about what was originally supposed to be what the crying child saw. I was trying to find out what the original fnaf timeline was supposed to be with both first 3 and the first 4 games and while I was doing it, I found something that a few other people have mentioned. In the fnaf 3 minigame called stage 01, we play as Fredbear and glitch out of the main stage to find multiple copies of the stage. In one of them, a child is missing. We actually get a lot of information on what happened to this victim. The first thing to note is that Fredbear's eyes are white in this minigame and Springbonnie's are yellow. In the follow me minigames, when William goes into Springbonnie, the eyes are white. This suggests that William used the Fredbear suit and stuffed the victim into Springbonnie. In the next minigame, we see Shadow Bonnie appear on stage. It could be that this victim was originally supposed to become Shadow Bonnie. Now it seems that the shadow animatronics are made from negative emotions, in which case this can still work. It could be that this victim was actually stuffed inside Springbonnie while he was alive and died due to a springlock failure which is why they have a shadow animatronic but none of the others do. This could also be when Shadow Freddy gets created because inflicting such pain on a child is definitely wicked. Like you said in your video, the crying child only seems to be scared of the springlock animatronics, so it could be that he actually saw the victim in stage 01. This could also help solve the Fredbear plush, we see from the private room that the Fredbear plush is controlled by William and that there are multiple Fredbear plushes but like many others have pointed out, in the night 6 minigame the text color is different implying something else is speaking there. This is where the part where fnaf 4 was supposed to be the end comes in, from what I hear, a lot of people think this is Charlotte which would make sense now because of Fazbear Frights showing that a spirit can possess multiple things at once but back then, as far as I'm aware we never see anything pointing towards this, which is why I think that when fnaf 4 was first released, the thing that was in the Fredbear plush was Shadow Bonnie. The last part about the Fredbear plush is more irrelevant now but it was something I thought I would share.
Even though I have different theories of FNAF 4, I really really enjoyed this video! I can't wait for part 2 of this theory 😀 I'm curious if Scott or something in games has confirmed the existence of Stitchwraith in the timeline of the games? The books always confuse me regarding what is or is not canon. Also, just curious, what do you think the mound is in the midnight motorist game?
The books as a whole aren't canon with the games. There's too many inconsistencies, especially in the novel trilogy. But some people like to make specific inferences from things that happen in the books to say things might have also happened in the games.
FNAF 4 definitely should’ve taken place in 1987. It would’ve wrapped everything up so much better. Since the first game we heard about the bite of ‘87 as this mysterious incident that we’d theorise about. It would’ve been perfect for that to be shown in FNAF 4 “The Final Chapter” instead it’s this lacklustre bite of ‘83 and to this day the bite of ‘87 is just assumed to be off camera and happening to a random security guard… hooray
Hi @Under_Score I thought the FF books where parallels to the lore and not directly canon, where does it say it's canon? Becuase I will say there is a perspective that says FF is not directly canon to FF, but just a parallel to eachother. And why do we see GF in UCN end cutscene if it's Andrew it's all about? If Golden Freddy is Andrew then it will rule out Cassidy, but we see Golden Freddy's name being Cassidy. So in that case there will be 3 spirits. Plus the revengeful kid in UCN is clearly blond and not curly black hair, whitch is described in the FF. And if there where 3 spirits in Golden Freddy, why do we only see 2 of them interacting with eachother in the security logbook? Cassidy and Eva(n), and no one named Andrew is present. The midnight motorist is about Henry losing his last child, Sammy (Henry in SE had a son called Sammy), from William and was killed and burried. The victim was burried. But Fredbear in UCN is saying "let's find the right suit for you" indicating that "the one you should not have killed" died by being stuffed into a suit (by William or the Puppet). Also in "chica's high school years" we hear her talk about a "kid" who she will go to the house and find a window to get in. What do we see in midnight motorist? A window broken. Indicating William did it. And Toy Chica/William is looking at a kid who has the face of the Puppet, but we know it's a male puppet. So it must be related to Henry's family and be a kid. So it must be Henry's son, Sammy. Also you can see in midnight motorist that there are 2 windows in the upper side of the house, indicating that there are 2 children rooms. But no 2nd child, I wonder why? Because that was Charlotte's room. Why we never see Toy Chica's/William's first kill in "Chica's high school years" because it was Charlie. And with the FNAF 4 menu screen. You dont know that is the same house as midnight mortorist, it might as well be the house that William does his illusion desks experiments (the FNAF 4 night gameplay). I do like the idea very much about William observing CC because he saw him drag a body or something like that. But William also does this to test his illusion desks on CC. Remember that Fredbear Plush itself is just illusion desks (with microphones and speakers) all over his house and outside (plus William have microphones and speakers inside Fredbear's). And in Sister Location, the minimap is calling the FNAF 4 maps for observation rooms (for experimenting). I think that CC was tested in all 3 observation rooms, because it would make sense why Michael gets his nightmares in 1993. Becuase CC is sharing memories to him when he sleeps, we have seen this happen in both the silver eyes saga and the FF (detective Larson sees memories from various events almost like Michael does in 1993). It could also be that CC only ever was tested on by the Fredbear Plush, but then there needs to be different souls in Golden Freddy communicating their experience to Michael. But random remnant/souls have no relation to Michael, therefore no real way to really glue on to Michael. Therefore it must be CC experiencing all of the observation rooms. Therefore we have the Nightmare Foxy jumpscare just like Michael does to him in the day. There are way too many parallels to it being CC's memories. The only thing that goes against it is "these are my friends", but I think CC loves them so much that his undying love for these plushes is so strong that he can still love them. In my mind alot of evidence leads to indicate that FF can simply not be 100% canon, but a parallel. Because if it was 100% canon there would be alot of information that counterdicts eachother. I think you have misunderstood what the ultimate guide was trying to tell us. And I hope you will consider that option in the future. But else have a good day Under_Score.
@@blackmamba1773 I do agree with you that there is a lot of evidence showing that the FF books are not 100% Canon but a parallel. But I will say that you misinterprete the midnight motorist minigame. Orange guy is clearly not William for the simple fact that William is the only relevant murder in 1983 that we know about in the lore. (We know that midnight motorist is from 1983 because in UCN cutscene “toy Chica’s high school years” Toy Chica/William says to a victim “and if he does not open the door, I will just find a window.” And we see a broken window from one of the kid’s bedroom in midnight motorist.) We know that Orange guy’s kid was killed and burried. William would not kill CC, plus that would break Canon. Henry most be orange guy, becuase it fits that Henry will go drinking alot to cope with Charlotte’s death. And we know Henry has 2 children (from the silver eyes Saga books) Charlotte and Sammy. And on the upper side outside of the midnight motorist house, we see 2 windows. This indicates that there are 2 children bedrooms. Clearly evidence to show it’s Henry’s house. The midnight motorist house is also not at all the same location and looks as William’s house.
@@blackmamba1773 There is a spot in midnight motorist where you can go through the trees and see a grave. The midnight motorist is clearly days or weeks after Charlotte’s death. We know from the FNAF 4 minigame that William’s car is legit blue, not purple. The purple car must therefore be Henry’s. And as I mentioned before the House is not the same as William’s. William lives in town not outside of it. So it can’t be William. Plain and simple. Orange guy’s color is different from the Fredbear plush. Michael’s text is a bit more Dark gray than the person we see watching TV in Midnight motorist (he is a bit lighter gray). Henry is most likely in a lot of grief, so Henry it’s possible that he drinks alot and takes his anger out on the famliy. Scott did not need a game to unconfirm “miketrap” he did it on a post. You have no proof supporting that Scott did the minigame guy “orange” because of “miketrap” Theory. All of your points you are trying to make have no proof in them what so ever.
@@blackmamba1773 After FNAF 4 Bite of 83, they most likely tried to rebrand the Fredbears location. And because this bonnie suit is not the same bonnie as in FNAF 4 minigame, and it's not the same bonnie as in the earliest Fredbears, Stage 01 in FNAF 3 minigame. So William had an excuse to make his Rabbit suit cuz of rebranding of the FNAF 4 location, but really used it to kidnap, maybe experiment, and kill children. Image 1: i.redd.it/kq834pyeaow71.png Image 2: static.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/3/3a/SpringBonnie.png/revision/latest?cb=20210312183405 The old poster from SB gives us the information that we need, that the glitchtrap suit existed in 1983. Which solidifies that Orange guy is Henry even more. And orange guy's kid is clearly getting kidnapped, killed and buried. And William is the only one in the lore who does that. And Orange guy's house does not look at all like Williams. Futher supporting that the midnight motorist game takes place in 1983 is “toy chica’s high school years”. That is indicating that it’s when William is at his very early stage at killing kids (and we know the MCI is in 1985, so it has to be before that, therefore 1983). Toy Chica/William says to one of his victims that “if he does not open the door, I will just find a window” (In the video time 3:53 ruclips.net/video/fuS_VdSPOiQ/видео.html). What do we find in midnight motorist? A broken window. We also see that the victim Toy Chica/William is talking about looks exactly like the puppet, but male. How is the puppet related? Well if we say that Orange guy is Henry then the Victim must be his son Sammy (Henry’s son in the silver eyes Saga books). And we know the puppet to be Henry’s daughter, so the kid who dies in midnight motorist most be Sammy. Since he is shown as a male puppet. And in “Toy Chica’s High School Years” we see Toy Chica/William talking to about the male puppet at night time (normally the cutscenes in “toy chica’s highschool years” is at daytime, so it’s clearly telling us something here). Midnight motorist is happening at night time. There is way too much parallels between “Toy Chica’s High School Years” and Midnight Motorist. This would also make sense, because Scott always try to clear things up from his previous game by creating another game. The Henry parallel with midnight motorist is also there when we are talking about for example the windows in the house. The 2 windows, 2 children bedrooms, 2 children, Henry has 2 children (William has 3 bedrooms, 3 children) It would make sense that Henry is depressed, drinks and uses his anger against others. So the kid who is kidnapped by most likely afton in the Glitchtrap suit. Henry could be depressed because of his daughter's death. The house is also not at all close to any pizzeria. And juniors is most likely a bar of some kind. The design of William's house is not at all close to the Afton's house. Image 3: 64.media.tumblr.com/903a105426b195a0870f6992f1ef6823/tumblr_inline_p29kt0t97t1svzeiq_1280.png Sammy is most likely taken, killed and buried after the bite incident in 1983 because of this old poster from SB. And William even mentions that he will go into a window and take a kid if he does not meet with him. This is mentioned in Chica's early high school years. The argument for William killing Sammy, is that we see footprints that matches the physical glitchtrap suit. 3 toes, just like the glitchtrap suit. Image 4: pm1.narvii.com/7830/330f391b74632890ad466d08a6122a3aac3cdb2fr1-303-346v2_hq.jpg Image 5: static.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/3/3a/SpringBonnie.png/revision/latest?cb=20210312183405 We also see dirt pilled up when you glitch through some trees in the midnight motorist minigame. This must be showing us William burying Sammy after killing him. It’s a grave. There is almost nothing else it could be referring to. But there is another thing that makes sense too, and it’s that funtime freddy have been with William too (and was hiding in the woods) and took Sammy and burried him with Funtime Freddy (animatronics burying themselves has been seen in the Silver Eyes saga books). Image 6: preview.redd.it/nkzctjtyfxo71.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=2a7bf70f8433d2b9a9cc9a22e59574ed1dd610de William wants to kill Henry's children after his son, the crying child dies, and most likely also Michael dies in an accident (therefore the crying child is locked inside the parts and service in fnaf 4 minigame. Because something happened 1 day before the party. That can also explain the different appearance of Michael and his Silver Eyes) (The idea of Human Michael dying in a accident is proposed by the "one step closer" book, and in FNAF 4. So in FNAF 4 minigames, 1 day before the party. CC gets locked in the parts and service. And we know that William must be busy with something else, since the Fredbear plush is not here to say "tomorrow is another day" to CC. And in the birthday party, Michael has a different skin color, and have silver eyes. Like if he was a humanoid. Like if Michael died and William locked CC in the parts and service to not witness Michaels death.). So Williams 2 sons dies, therefore he kills Henry's 2 children. And William blames Henry for their death. Most likely because William is very busy with work for Henry (cuz Henry own FE), and therfore William blames Henry instead of himself for their deaths. Cuz if he was not busy with work he could have stopped both deaths for happening. So William has the motive, the opportunity, and the means and time to do kidnap and kill Henry's son. And Orange guy's house does not fit the Afton's house. And the symbolic elements with the windows. William mentions to take a kid from a window. Or rather told, verbal confirmation. It all points to that Orange guy is not William. And that Orange Guy is most likely Henry. So to sum up: There is much evidence suggesting that Orange Guy is William (as I have mentioned). There is motive, opportunity, the means and time to kidnap Henry’s son (thereby not being Orange guy). And there is verbal conformation from William that he is not the Orange Guy. And the relevance of Midnight Motorist is therefore strong and not random and weird. It also does not counterdict anything in canon and it makes the story more interesting. And it also answers a lot more questions than it’s asking.
@@blackmamba1773 Right, it’s not a literal gravestone in the sense that there is no Stone on it. But it’s a grave. What else could it be? Do you have any suggestions? Because it’s very relevant else Scott would not make it a secret/ Easter Egg. It would make sense that it was a place where the kid was burried, because William killed him and burried him. If you say it’s not a grave, then you make it more difficult for yourself. If it’s not a grave then we never know what really happened to that kid, and we will not know what that pilled up dirt would mean. So if you say it’s a grave, then we answer 2 questions and create no new unanswered questions. And you do know that William is not literally purple right? Therefore we can not trust the car color either from FNAF 2. So therefore his car is not purple. The blue car is right here: tumblr_inline_pcbju0g9Ar1r0t2x8_540 We know that it’s some weeks or days after Charlotte dies because of “Toy Chica’s High School Years”. Toy Chica/William first kills 5 kids before she/he kills the male Puppet. And depending on William killing a victim each day or week, it’s been days or weeks for Henry to handle Charlotte’s death. Therefore the reason it’s said “later that night” is becuase after Toy Chica/William talks to the “male Puppet”/the kid. He later that night comes to his House and kills and burry him. Simple. Scott is not slacking off, he likes his community too much when he made FNAF 6 and 7. Those games was literally to the fans and was free. Therefore William does not live in the midnight motorist house. You also forget that who wears a suit and take children that is not William? No one who we know of. So Orange guy can not be William. This is what is called commen sense. My points have evidence. If you would take the time to read what I just wrote to you prievously and now. It’s you who does not reference enough about things in the games and instead a lot about what you think Scott’s intention was and what you think is right. This is not evidence. That is not commen sense. Use the clues set in stone for you in the games, to make an argument on the topic at least.
I agree kind of! I personally think that TOYSNHK is either the Crying child or Sammy, as you call him. Honestly CC (or Sammy’s) father could be either or, could be William Afton or Henry Emily, it could literally be either one lol and there is evidence for both. Perhaps Sammy, or evan, or whatever the hecking hell his name is, is the biological son of Henry, but then later William afton adopted him and became his adopted dad????
I'm going to be real here the only thing that really kills this theory is that the continuity of the books are different from the games and yes Scott said you can use some of the books to answer some questions of the past games but I think this is going a bit too far cuz Cassidy
Theory Michael hid in his hidden room during fnaf 4 the only animatronic he saw was nightmare fredbear so that's why we don't see nightmare fredbear on night 1 2 3 4 he was trying to get Michael on night 5 he gave up that's just a theory a game theory nightmare fredbear was banging on Michael's door but he gave up
@@killerman3715 A) The Puppet has been referred to by he/him despite being a girl named Charle Emily. So the gender of the kids is wishy washy at best. B) Andrew doesn't seem to exist in the games lore. There's like zero evidence for it.
@@killerman3715 And those important game children are; Charlie Emily Gabriel Jeremy Susie Fritz Cassidy Also Elizabeth Afton & Crying Child (Evan Afton) but they weren't killed by Willy. Andrew doesn't exist in the games.
I really enjoyed listening to this theory. It makes a lot of sense in my opinion, and it does solve most of the questions that were mentioned in this video.
Ok, but their gender was never revealed and when Scot was instructing there voice he said "it should work for either a young boy or a young girl" so either could work, I'm just saying Cassidy shouldn't be ignored during this discussion.
very interesting. Because I haven't been listening to fnaf theory's for a long time. I have thought the books were completely walled off from the games or are just some elements canon in the games while the books are still separate from the games or are they the same universe? I am extremely confused! Ver good video I enjoyed it quite a lot!
I still doubt that the Stitchline is in the games and Andrew's the kid in MM. Since if Orange Guy is Andrew's father, why would Scott introduce this random character that we don't know the name and never uses him again after FFPS (you might say BV also doesn't have a confirmed name but some media like FNAF World and Jake's story in the stingers shows that BV does have importance in the series). I feel like would make sense if William was Orange Guy because the man matches Afton's behavior to Elizabeth in TFC, the man's text also matches the Fredbear plush's text in the earlier minigames in FNAF4 (if you believe Willplush), and it would a way for Scott to clear up the idea of Afton literally being purple since yellow is opposite of purple and it's supposed to represent the shadows. Secondly, Andrew being canon in the games would ruin Cassidy's importance in the series, because why would Scott keep Cassidy's name a secret in FFPS and the Logbook but reveal Andrew's name later on in the stingers 3 years later? And also, most names of the MCI appear in the FF books but not the name Cassidy and that the scrapped "Cassidy" screenplay was supposed be in the movie but not Andrew, who is supposedly TOYSNHK in the games, which leads me to believe that Cassidy is important. Thirdly, Burntrap's existence. According to TMIR1280 which is after the FFPS fire, William's body explodes at the end of the story. However, there's still flesh in Burntrap's body in SB. If the stingers are in the games, why would Vanny take Glamrock Freddy to the underground pizzeria if Afton's body is not even there? Because I find it impossible that Vanny somehow put Afton's remains back together. Fourthly, the story "You're the Band" in Felix the Shark seems to debunk the Stitchline being in the games because: - Timmy's bedroom is one of the locations Larson visits in the 11th stinger which confirms the story is in the Stitchline. - One of the characters mentioned that there has been no Freddy's locations because of the MCI which happened 30 years prior, even though we've seen 2 locations even after the murders. - Timmy talked about dead kids being lined up on the wall which similar to what Oswald seen in ITP which confirms that the ITP murders is the accurate version of the MCI in the FF. It also means that the people saw the incident even though the games said that the kids went missing and were lured separately. - Timmy is lured by The Shadow (who might be Eleanor) which shows us that BV might have been lured to Fredbear's by Shadow Freddy or Bonnie in MM since Eleanor seems to represent the Shadow Animatronics because she created SB in Hide-and-Seek. - The animatronics also seem to be intact in the story even though their parts were stolen by William in order to obtain Remnant for Funtimes (as confirmed from Candy Cadet, FFPS Insanity Ending, TFC, and TUG) and that their shells used for Fazbear's Fright but not their endoskeletons. Finally, the FNAF World Update 2 map. This was brought up by Krakoa and ImpulseEvan in some of his videos is that in the map, it shows 7 graves with one of them away from the others. You may think that 7th grave is Charlotte while the others are the main 5 and Andrew but the map also shows the Purple Guy sprite near the 6 graves. This means that the 7th victim is not one of Afton's victims. It's possible BV is the 7th victim since he was lured by Shadow Freddy, who is William's evil because he was the trap used by Afton in Follow Me, BV is the one who putting the pieces together to free his friends in FNAF World and 3 (I'm NOT saying that he's Michael), and that TCHSY references MM. And that's all. Sorry I had to make a whole essay, those were just the reasons of why I think Stitchline is not in the games since it would confuse new fans and ruin the timeline since Scott only said it would clear some of the lore. Anyways, you still made a good video!
The Stitchwraith is a collection of 11 individual stories, 1 of each as an epilogue at the end of every Fazbear Frights Book. I made the book cover used in the video, there is no Stitchwraith Book though I wish there was.
what do you have a theory on, from like the entire series like do u believe dream theory, or that the entire series is just a literal game or like real, what do u think
FNaF 4's story retconned so much that it has to be explained it some extreme nonsense sci-fi, supernatural, chaotic style. Scott made the 4 as a story ender but it was so bad that he retconned all of it. Shame on scott
Very intreeging theory but i think the jr location we are shown is actually a fnaf 2 Location not fredbears family diner, but why would William return to the scene of the crime? it would make sense if the person we are following was Jeremy Fritzjerald instead of william afton cause he had worked at a previous location and would in turn be turned away but the car and the house is still iffy to be honest but i do indeed love your theory tho it really opened up new ideas for me thank you
I believe everything in fnaf 4 doesn’t make sense cuz it wasn’t meant to be interpreted that way.. take the first 4 games as if all was just a dream/nightmare/hallucinations of an extremely imaginative boy who is on his death bed and it will all make sense.
Yes YES YES OMG preach bro!!!! This is definitely the correct answer, and I have no idea why more people don’t mention this point, because it was always SIX KIDS, not five, that were murdered in into the pit, but the mci only has five!! However save them has 6 blood stains which matches up with SIX kids being murdered in the into the pit murders in 1985. Plus William laid out the bodies for EVERYONE to see in the Freddy fazbear pizzeria in the into the pit AND save them murders, but in contrast the MCI had william concealing and stuffing the kids into the suits and hiding them, and this is something that we do NOT see happen in the into the pit murders.
I will explain: First, Elizabeth is the first dead child, and because of that, William is keeping the crying child away from the animatronics by making him afread of them. Which explains why William putted his OWN SON In the nightmare experience. To keep him safe from the animatronics by making him afread of them for not getting close to them
@@blackmamba1773 I think Nightmare meant the first afton family member to be dead not one of the missing children seeing how she’s pretty absent throughout Fnaf 4 which could lead to the possibility of the Crying Child seeing her death where she got scooped up by Baby that traumatized him to the fear of animatronics.
I’m not twisting the truth I’m just saying which of the afton family members kicked the bucket first. Which is neither crying child or Elizabeth we are not talking about Charlie because she isn’t a member of the afton family.
@@blackmamba1773 Yea ik I was talking about the first afton member to die not the first character to die in this series of course Charlie/Puppet is the first one. Don’t worry I got that though my head I was just thinking that I should be correcting Nightmare about the first afton member to die that lead to William to become more wary of his other children to not follow the same animatronic death as Elizabeth. Pretty simple.
The real question is, How did Andrew think about the FNAF 1 nightmare characters and some characters like mangle and puppet from FNAF 2 characters? And also, all I knew was that the nightmare we see in FNAF 4 is Michael's nightmares as Andrew.
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Where's Antoine Dodson, cuz this is So dumb So dumb So dumb so dumb Its like everytime Scott makes a character in a book to parallel a character in the games, all you book followers scramble to fit it into the games lore, like its a new additional character. There is no Edwin in the games. No Elanor, no stitchwraith, no andrew. Those are ALL examples of book characters created to PARALLEL game characters. Its honestly irritating AF that steel wool even put the mimic in the ruin dlc. But even then, its just that- DLC. DLC is rarely ever canon in Fnaf. The only example I can think of of canon DLC is balloon boy in fnaf4. Let me break it down for you... The kid isn't a runaway. And he's not Andrew from the books. Its Foxybro. Mrs. Emily left Henry for Will, taking her son Foxybro with her to live with Will and his son Crying Child. But Foxybro doesn't like living with William who he finds creepy, or CC who he thinks is a crybaby. So whenever possible, Foxybro breaks out and goes to THAT PLACE (Freddy's- his dad Henry's restaurant, where he feels safe.) This irritated step-daddy Afton (who still owned and operated Fredbear's Family Diner), who then put locks on the boy's bedroom window, and stationed a nightmare animatronic outside his room, both in an effort to keep the boy inside. In MM, Foxybro had to break the window, because Willy locked it. Foxybro was then able to get passed where the nightmare animatronic usually was, because it was raining, and William brought it inside. That room is the precursor to the fnaf4 room. "He ran off to that place AGAIN" This isn't the first time the kid got out. Hence the locked, broken window, and the animatronic footprints. Will swears to himself that he'll make Foxybro regret it when he gets home. And he does. He takes all Foxybro's stuff and moves him into a room Will set up in his underground bunker. A room with no windows to climb out, no rain to ruin animatronics, and a nightmare animatronic guarding each door. Let me see you get out now you little brat.
HAHAHAHA IM LOSING IT WITH THIS ONE AFTER DITTOPHOBIA
You should make a new vid about dittiphobia
I really doubt Scott's "Final Chapter" was supposed to about a random kid we had no way of knowing even existed at the time, and then Scott would get surprised when we weren't able to figure out what was going on.
Yeah I agree.
The story of the games changed as Scott went on. He said it himself in Dawkos interview. Meanings of things change, let's be honest FNAF4 was definitely supposed to be all a dream but Scott changed that due to it being poorly received and cliche. Scott now has a game that awkwardly fits into none of the other games that he now has to make the story fit in and make sense with all of the other games. Scott made sister location with FNAF4 in mind with the breaker room and private room easter eggs. So, dismissing this video just for that purpose is kind of silly.
@@crhed6328 yeah that totally doesn't go against what Scott said in his retcon post at all
it was never the final chapter
@@crhed6328 But didn't Scott say only the contents of the FNAF 4 box changed? I don't remember him saying the plot of FNAF 4 ever changed outside of changing the bite of 87 to the bite of 83 last second before the game released.
Honestly, I never considered the idea of Andrew's importance outside of possibly being a stand-in for Cassidy in the books and while I'm not entirely convinced it'll be correct, it is definitely a solid and satisfying answer unlike what many other theories give. If there is one thing I like about your theories is you consider everything and don't just answer questions with the generic answers like retcon, FNaF doesn't make sense and we don't know yet but trust me. It makes your theories more enjoyable to watch than Matpat's. That and you don't have merch plugs, very hit or miss jokes and a burning desire to prove that BV is a robot somehow. Keep up the great theories.
I'm confident about BV, what does BV5th have anything to do with GF? Aren't there only 2 BVs? Fnaf 4 and Fnaf 2?
@Jesse The Nobody Nah, this isn't a good theory, because Andrew didn't exist in games, Andrew is Cassidy parrarel only.
It's a pretty interesting theory but, springlocks aren't waterproof, plus the scene alludes to "later that night" I always thought it was a follow up to what happened with Charlie, since it coincides with the rainy day and the purple car, being that BV probably saw Charlie's death, but the idea you put forward is also an interesting interpretation.
glitchtrap is a stitched suit, which would be waterproof
Fnaf security breach There is a spring bonnie suit without a spring look but look same glitchtrap
While it is an interesting theory, and does make some sense, there are lots of issues with it. I do like the idea of Midnight Motorist being a different family entirely, but it seems like a few things disprove it.
1. We know from Sister Location that William Afton himself associates the FNAF 4 room(s) with the date 1983, which has nothing to do with Andrew.
2. Why would it imply so heavily that the FNAF 4 character is dying in a hospital if it was Andrew and not a Bite Victim?
3. If Midnight Motorist is a different family, what does the unmarked pile of dirt mean? What is the bad day that Andrew had before he ran away? Where did he go? Why are there no animatronic footprints going towards or away from the one pair that we see?
Honestly, this is probably one of the biggest FNAF theories i've ever seen. I'm not going to comment any of my theories about this, but if this is actually true, it would be a massive game changer. When you think about this, it makes a giant sense. BUT. In my opinion if this is true, then Scott would make more clues about this. I mean, nobody has actually thought of something like this and it would really change this whole series. I think that the biggest clue is the house in the woods and then the house in a crowded place. I really don't know what to think about it, but for me It is like the biggest thing pointing to this Theory being true.
Well, at the end i just want to say that i'm really excited for more theories from you, and i really want to hear your opinion on Security Breach since when i was last watching all of you play SB on Ozones Channel, you didn't seem so Happy, and i totally agree with you on all you said that stream.
So yeah, good luck with more content in the future!
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Although this is an interesting theory I find it really hard to believe Scott was writing the Fazbear Fright stories during the production of FNAF 6/FFPS & UCN. If this was the case that would mean Fazbear Frights would have been the end of the series if it wasn't for Steelwool wanting to make FNAF VR. You could argue that he had this planned since FNAF 4 but then that would mean Scott purposefully decided to put red herrings in the Midnight Motorists mini game (i.e. The guy on the couch, Purple car, characters text colors lining up with other characters text colors, etc) which is even harder to buy. I feel like it's a lot more likely that this is just another house William owned and William is a lot richer then we thought. You also bring up the player character in Midnight Motorists being yellow and thus it (probably) can't be William Afton. However in FNAF 4 when William is talking to Crying Child/Evan through the Fredbear plushies his text color is yellow. It's the same with the mysterious Yellow Man, he also speaks in yellow text.
Another thing you mention is that it didn't make sense for Crying Child/Evan to be the one in the night sequences of FNAF 4. This is gonna sound off topic but just stay with me here. In the files of FNAF 6/FFPS the secret section of Midnight Motorists is called "Later that night". It is widely believed and speculated that this mini game takes place after William kills Charlotte. William then quickly drives home to escape suspicion of being the culprit. I think the "that place" William mentions at the end of Midnight Motorists is Fredbears Family Diner, and William doesn't Crying Child/Evan to be there cause he could recognize William being the one to kill Charlotte. I think the foot prints outside the house is William in the Spring Bonnie suit possibly trying to scare Crying Child/Evan into staying inside the house but this fails because he doesn't find Fredbear & Spring Bonnie scary. When William says "He will be sorry when he gets back." I think that is William hinting at creating the Fredbear plushies and, illusion disks to make the animatronics look scary to Crying Child/Evan. From now on whenever Crying Child/Evan goes to sleep William brings him down to these rooms (that are the night sequences in FNAF 4) and uses the illusion disks to scare Crying Child/Evan from ever wanting to go back to Fredbears, thus allowing William to get away with more killings. This perfectly explains the Fredbear plushie's (who is actually William and who I will be referring to as William from now on) line of "Remember what you saw?" William has been trying to scare Crying Child/Evan into fearing these characters (so William can kill more kids without the Crying Child around) so the line is referring to just that. In fact when this line is said is a dead give away that that is the case! He tells Crying Child/Evan "Hurry, run toward the exit." if you don't follow his command and run to the left toward the animatronics only then does he say the line "NO! Don't you remember what you saw? The exit is the other way! Hurry and leave." He wants Crying Child/Evan out of the establishment so he can commit more murders. However this falls apart when an actor in a Fredbear suit blocks the exit. This in turn prevents Crying Child/Evan from going that way and screws up Williams plans of getting him out of here when Crying Child/Evan falls to the ground in tears ending the mini game. The next mini game starts off nearly the exact same. Crying Child/Evan is in the restaurant William pretending to be the Fredbear plush guide him out of the restaurant except this time it works and Crying Child/Evan leaves the restaurant, thus allowing William to kill a kid that day. But hold up that's a pretty big statement I'm saying, after all the Missing Childrens Incident happens in 1985 not 1983. However while that is the case there is something too important to over look. In the night 4 mini game in FNAF 4 Crying Child/Evan is locked in the Parts & Service room by Michael. Behind Crying Child/Evan is a suit with some strands of hair sticking out, presumably a dead kid. A kid who died by Williams hand after Crying Child/Evan was safely guided home by his Fredbear plush in night 3's mini game. Now obviously this is very confusing considering the Missing Childrens Incident is said to have taken place in 1985 in bot The Silver Eyes & Into the Pit. So you could make the argument this is when Andrew died however the hair seems to be brown or blond and was made brown to not blend in with the costumes fur color. Or the more likely but controversial answer (that I think is the case) is that the Missing Childrens Incident takes place before the bite of 83 in the game lore, and takes place in 1985 in the book lore because the only two sources saying it took place in 1985 are in the books.
I find it hard to believe that Andrew is in the game lore and isn't just the book version counterpart to Cassidy. When you die in UCN and get that rare screen of "The one you shouldn't have killed" the image of the kid shown is one with curly blond hair, Andrew's hair is also curly however it is black. It is also hard to believe the idea of 3 spirits in Golden Freddy/Fredbear considering the piece of evidence we got that helped us figure that out was that the Stitchwraith had two spirits in them. Also in the bad ending to FNAF 3 we see the animatronics heads lit up implying the souls have not been set free, however one small detail we all overlooked back then was that Golden Freddy's head had two lit eyes while the other heads only had one lit eye implying there's two and only two spirits in Golden Freddy. The biggest argument you have in your favor of Andrew and the Missing Childrens Incident being canon to the game lore is that is what is stated to be true in the newest Freddy files book. However I've heard from some online friends on discord that in the same book it also mentions that the Twisted Wolf animatronic from The Twisted Ones is some how Roxanne Wolf which doesn't make any sense and has caused me to dismiss that books info. There were also a lot of errors in the other two The Freddy Files books released before this one so that info about the Fazbear Fright books being canon to the game lore is (most likely) false and possibly made up. Although this video is getting a part two and there has been cases where I didn't believe one of your theories but then you won me over in the second part. I hope this is the case here as well.
Believe it or not, there were some leaks that show Fazbear Frights were in development before and during Pizza Sim's development
Search "r/fnaftheories external source tales from the pizzaplex"
@@burner555 Can you send the link im having trouble finding it
nvm found it
@@TheCollector2401 I've tried but RUclips deletes it
@@burner555 don’t worry I found what you were looking for and it’s crazy to think Scott always intended FNAF 6 to not be the end yet crafted the perfect ending to fool us lol
I've never been so suprised by a big theory like this, and especially about FNaF 4. It makes so much sense. Glad you're back.
honestly, very good theory Under_Score, Even tho I am still personally am 60/40 on how canon Andrew is to the games (in favour of No). From the POV of him being canon tho, I see this very much could see this being the case. Even tho I may not 100% believe it, it’s still nice to look at FNAF from this new POV. Very good video, good job to you and all who helped in making the video.
Very cool video. but I would like to talk about some points:
1.) You say that William would not use his son in experiments, but this is strange because William is a scientist who went crazy because he found the Remnant and learned its properties. In real life, there were many examples of scientists using their relatives in experiments. It's just plain easier than testing Illusion Discs on strangers or rats.
You also mention that Crying Boy couldn't talk about his father's experiences for some reason. Yes, it's strange, but then why didn't the Crying Boy tell anyone that Big Brother was making fun of him and mocking him? Maybe because he understands that no one will listen to him.
2.) Andrew is Runaway Boy. So that sounds good, but you're missing a lot of facts:
• In Midnight Racer's files, the phrase "later this night" can be found. In the Security Puppet mini-game, it is fashionable to notice car tracks in the alley. And what do we see at the beginning of Midnight Racer? That's right, a man in a purple car rushing home. Coincidence? I don't think. Also in the cut scenes with Toy Chica, she says, "I told him to come later, that would be enough, and if he doesn't show up, then I'll come to his house, and if he doesn't open the door, then I'll just find the window." A reference to the Midnight Racer? Most likely.
• Who then is the person sitting in the chair in Midnight Racer? Just a random character? Scott does not add random characters. In addition, the color of his clothes and text is the same as that of the Elder Brother.
3.) How Crying Boy Sees "Nightmares" In Another House:
The house from the FNaF 4 mini-games is not the same as the house from the FNaF 4 gameplay. Yes, that's right. But if you look at the map in the Electrical Room in FNaF Sister Location, you can see three houses at once, located at different ends of the map. You can say that Scott did it on purpose so that there was enough space, but this is stupid because this is a drawing, there cannot be enough space on the drawings. Also, the house from Midnight Racer is similar to the house from the FNaF 4 menu, because they are the same houses, as you said. Knowing that Afton had several houses, it's easy to say that the house from Midnight Racer and the house from the FNaF 4 minigames and FNaF 4 gameplay belong to William.
So, everything seems to be. I hope you answer. Sorry if it's not clear, I used google translator.
Honestly, I like this theory. I've never heard something like this before about Midnight Motorist. However, unfortunately there are a lot of clues that point to William being the man in yellow/orange, even though it doesn't make a lot of sense to not use the color purple when it's always been used to represent William... I wish this was true... One of the biggest mysteries of FNAF that has still not been solved...
All the cars in this mini game are purple bc it’s night time, Atari styled games almost always do that do shadows to show that it’s dark out
This theory is more or less as to what I believe, however there are a few issues with Andrew being the victim. In Into The Pit, Andrew is seemingly grouped with the rest of the children, who die in 1985. And in the Toy chica high school years cutscenes he's also grouped with the missing children, meaning he must've died in 1985. Unless William Afton kept him locked in a room for 2 years, Andrew couldn't have been the victim. Since Afton is shown not to care for any of his kids, he would put the bite victim in the room and torment him every night to experiment with his illusions. In fnaf 4, no one treated the crying child seriously, so no one would believe anything he says about the nightmares, plus it could be that the bite victim thought it was all a dream and the nightmares weren't actually there. This theory is really good from a narrative perspective nevertheless.
I plan to answer those exact issues in Part 2, so gimme a bit and hopefully I can come back with an even better part.
@@Under_Score alright calm.
I really like a whole lot about this theory, though I have the same problem with it that I do with a lot of prevalent theories.
I can't conceive that Scott intended it at the time.
Why would Scott say "4 games, 1 story" and consider the story complete, if he objectively did not give all the pieces to tell a complete story? Why would he add midnight motorist to help clear up a years old game, only for it to not contain the information needed to clear up that game until he publishes book yet still several years later? It also does not take into account several pieces of information on the table. What is the significance of Chica's missing beak? What about the strange pile of dirt on the side path in midnight motorist? What about Chica seemingly discussing midnight motorist in her "high school years" cutscenes in UCN? When talking about being in love with The Puppet, she describes nearly precisely what happens to the child in midnight motorist. It would seem odd then if the truth of the mini game had nothing to do with either Chica or The Puppet and in fact that cutscene just had nothing to do with anything.
Great work overall though. I think its a big step in the right direction. Particularly as it pertains to the fnaf 4 stuff and the gameplay house.
Honestly I think a very ignored and extremely important point to everything in 4 is nightmare. I’m developing a theory and I’m hoping to get it posted to the Reddit soon and I hope it get recognized
Also dream theory is impossible I just wanted to say that because I’m a bitch
I do believe Andrew is the Runaway kid however this needs to be after the MCI due to the Midnight Motorist mini-game in the files being called..."Later that night"
Let's gooo, glad to have you back!
so you are telling me that Andrew a character that has been introduced 6 years after the initial release of fnaf never mentioned until a book epilogue is the main villain of ucn? And that Cassidy just doesn't exist? logical
Cassidy exists, I’m just not there yet
the kid has been hinted at existing since FNAF World update 2 with the 7 graves, then again in UCN, and again in CoDB, and again in SB. just because we didn't know his name doesn't mean we didn't know he existed, same can be applied to Take Cake kid (Charlotte), or the 5th missing child (Cassidy)
@@jarnold the 7th grave is evan
@@ItsSupercat94 who the fuck is evan
@@jarnold the crying child from fnaf 4 (there's evidence that his name was Evan)
I disagree with the whole video since they was some problems with the points of the video, such as Andrew being the runaway kid, and the kid that experiencing the FNAF 4 nightmares animatronics, I also disagree on your points about the problems of William being the orange guy in midnight motorist. But notherless the video was nice and great, and I'm glad that you post a video today after it been so long.
The only thing I'm hesitant about isn't one of the files for that minigame callis ed "later that night"?
another great video, please keep it up these theories are really well crafted and shown
Wait how did the crying child witness the kidnapping of Andrew if Andrew lives in the middle of nowhere other than that it's a good theory
THIS VIDEO HITS DIFFERENT AFTER THE DITTOPHOBIA LEAKS FROM TFTPP.....
Pretty good video, personally the only critique I have is that I would’ve liked an explanation as to why Stitchlinegames is correct at the beginning, just so this is a bit more friendly to people that aren’t as familiar with the lore.
That is a very good point, I'll make sure to emphasize that EXTRA in Part 2. Thanks for the input
In the Night 2 Cutscene, where we play as Evan, the text when we want to see the other side of Fredbear’s, it says “No! Don’t you remember what you saw? The exit is the other way! Hurry and leave.” Did Evan see his father kill Andrew in the dead of night? That could explain why we can’t go the other way in Fredbear’s.
I think you are close but I think Evan or crying child watches Elizabeth's death (the daughter of William) and that could explain why her room is empty.
cool to see another five nights fan, subbed!
Thank you for all your devotion for this game, it has helped me a lot as well. This really makes so much sense!!! Keep up the great work!!!
I've never liked the idea of the orange guy being William Afton. I don't quite agree with this theory, either, but this was a great video & got me thinking once again!
This is an extremely satisfying answer, but I am not sure if there is evidence to 100% prove that it is true. I am looking forward to part 2!
I have a quick question: where did you get the sprites for characters like Andrew, Cassidy, Elizabeth, etc.? Are they free for use? I’d really like to use some.
Nice and interesting theory UnderScore! I really enjoyed it, and it really makes sense with one another lol! Andrew being the runway kid in MM, BV witnesses ing Andrew's death, William forcibly kidnapping Andrew etc. It all fits together. I'm already for Part 2 to come out. Although, I'm little bit convinced with Andrew being TOYSNHK.
Bruh, in FNAF 4 I think we were playing as Andrew but I think it was the same nightmare Michael was having because of maybe Illusion disc but I think it was just his nightmares
@@robotstar3876 ANDREW DIDN'T EXIST IN GAMES
@HorrorLover No
the fnaf 4 home screen shows a lone house with no other buildings around so the midnight motorist house could still be the fnaf 4 house. Additionally, the fnaf 1 phone call can be heard in fnaf 4 and the way the animatronics attack the character is more similar to fnaf 1 than ucn. Finally, the lamp, tv, and rug seen in fnaf 4 are also seen in the midnight motorist and sister location. I like this theory, but I don't think scott made fnaf 4 to introduce a random victim, rather to show Michael's trauma and introduce arguably the first event in the series/the reason for William to start murdering.
FINALLY ANOTHER THEORY!!!
This is monumental! I agree 100% with this
You know, ive always had this idea that fnaf was like not what it seems at all, i thought maybe it was dream theory, but now, im really not sure. But i actually believe this theory. Unlike most.
The return of the rabbit man
When the world needed him the most he returns W upload my guy👍
wouldn't William get springlock bc it was rainning
I always saw midnight modderist as after the bite , probably 1987 , with the person in the chair being ms.afton and the kid who ran away being Michael, the foot prints being from the crying child appearing as either golden or shadow Freddy in order to lure mike to the jr.s ( the fnaf 2 location ) potentially with the intent of showing him that their father had been killing children, and the mound could be even`s grave as for the significance of " later that night I couldn`d tell ya. But that's just an idea of mine I thought I`d share and put out there
I think this is a very well put together theory. I just have one question. If Andrew is the vengeful spirit , who’s cassidy?
How are u going to bring a book character that isn’t in game to the lore 😭💀
Because he's a stand in, question mark
Ok so I had an idea for the midnight motorist minigame. The orange man is William Afton, or atleast Afton when he's not in the shadows abducting children. The child who escapes his room is the Bite Victim, or Evan or whatever. But what about the footprint outside the window?
What if that footprint didnt come from William's suit, but Henry's. What if Henry figured out that William was abusing his child and in an attempt to help he dressed up in an old Fredbear suit (like the Glitchtrap suit without springlocks) and took him to Fredbears/Freddy's. Maybe this is why he seems to trust the Fredbear plushie.
"this all fits together too cleanly..." Said every fanf theorist ever XD
I have a theory about what was originally supposed to be what the crying child saw. I was trying to find out what the original fnaf timeline was supposed to be with both first 3 and the first 4 games and while I was doing it, I found something that a few other people have mentioned. In the fnaf 3 minigame called stage 01, we play as Fredbear and glitch out of the main stage to find multiple copies of the stage. In one of them, a child is missing. We actually get a lot of information on what happened to this victim. The first thing to note is that Fredbear's eyes are white in this minigame and Springbonnie's are yellow. In the follow me minigames, when William goes into Springbonnie, the eyes are white. This suggests that William used the Fredbear suit and stuffed the victim into Springbonnie. In the next minigame, we see Shadow Bonnie appear on stage. It could be that this victim was originally supposed to become Shadow Bonnie. Now it seems that the shadow animatronics are made from negative emotions, in which case this can still work. It could be that this victim was actually stuffed inside Springbonnie while he was alive and died due to a springlock failure which is why they have a shadow animatronic but none of the others do. This could also be when Shadow Freddy gets created because inflicting such pain on a child is definitely wicked. Like you said in your video, the crying child only seems to be scared of the springlock animatronics, so it could be that he actually saw the victim in stage 01. This could also help solve the Fredbear plush, we see from the private room that the Fredbear plush is controlled by William and that there are multiple Fredbear plushes but like many others have pointed out, in the night 6 minigame the text color is different implying something else is speaking there. This is where the part where fnaf 4 was supposed to be the end comes in, from what I hear, a lot of people think this is Charlotte which would make sense now because of Fazbear Frights showing that a spirit can possess multiple things at once but back then, as far as I'm aware we never see anything pointing towards this, which is why I think that when fnaf 4 was first released, the thing that was in the Fredbear plush was Shadow Bonnie. The last part about the Fredbear plush is more irrelevant now but it was something I thought I would share.
Even though I have different theories of FNAF 4, I really really enjoyed this video! I can't wait for part 2 of this theory 😀
I'm curious if Scott or something in games has confirmed the existence of Stitchwraith in the timeline of the games? The books always confuse me regarding what is or is not canon.
Also, just curious, what do you think the mound is in the midnight motorist game?
Still not sure on the mound, but I will be trying to clear up Canonicity of the books in the future
The books as a whole aren't canon with the games. There's too many inconsistencies, especially in the novel trilogy. But some people like to make specific inferences from things that happen in the books to say things might have also happened in the games.
@@operatchick6486 but he's talking about the stichline stories not the charlie trilogy
I have a question, how did u grow ur RUclips channel so fast
FNAF 4 definitely should’ve taken place in 1987. It would’ve wrapped everything up so much better. Since the first game we heard about the bite of ‘87 as this mysterious incident that we’d theorise about. It would’ve been perfect for that to be shown in FNAF 4 “The Final Chapter” instead it’s this lacklustre bite of ‘83 and to this day the bite of ‘87 is just assumed to be off camera and happening to a random security guard… hooray
Hi @Under_Score
I thought the FF books where parallels to the lore and not directly canon, where does it say it's canon? Becuase I will say there is a perspective that says FF is not directly canon to FF, but just a parallel to eachother.
And why do we see GF in UCN end cutscene if it's Andrew it's all about? If Golden Freddy is Andrew then it will rule out Cassidy, but we see Golden Freddy's name being Cassidy. So in that case there will be 3 spirits. Plus the revengeful kid in UCN is clearly blond and not curly black hair, whitch is described in the FF. And if there where 3 spirits in Golden Freddy, why do we only see 2 of them interacting with eachother in the security logbook? Cassidy and Eva(n), and no one named Andrew is present.
The midnight motorist is about Henry losing his last child, Sammy (Henry in SE had a son called Sammy), from William and was killed and burried. The victim was burried. But Fredbear in UCN is saying "let's find the right suit for you" indicating that "the one you should not have killed" died by being stuffed into a suit (by William or the Puppet).
Also in "chica's high school years" we hear her talk about a "kid" who she will go to the house and find a window to get in. What do we see in midnight motorist? A window broken. Indicating William did it. And Toy Chica/William is looking at a kid who has the face of the Puppet, but we know it's a male puppet. So it must be related to Henry's family and be a kid. So it must be Henry's son, Sammy. Also you can see in midnight motorist that there are 2 windows in the upper side of the house, indicating that there are 2 children rooms. But no 2nd child, I wonder why? Because that was Charlotte's room. Why we never see Toy Chica's/William's first kill in "Chica's high school years" because it was Charlie.
And with the FNAF 4 menu screen. You dont know that is the same house as midnight mortorist, it might as well be the house that William does his illusion desks experiments (the FNAF 4 night gameplay).
I do like the idea very much about William observing CC because he saw him drag a body or something like that.
But William also does this to test his illusion desks on CC. Remember that Fredbear Plush itself is just illusion desks (with microphones and speakers) all over his house and outside (plus William have microphones and speakers inside Fredbear's). And in Sister Location, the minimap is calling the FNAF 4 maps for observation rooms (for experimenting). I think that CC was tested in all 3 observation rooms, because it would make sense why Michael gets his nightmares in 1993. Becuase CC is sharing memories to him when he sleeps, we have seen this happen in both the silver eyes saga and the FF (detective Larson sees memories from various events almost like Michael does in 1993). It could also be that CC only ever was tested on by the Fredbear Plush, but then there needs to be different souls in Golden Freddy communicating their experience to Michael. But random remnant/souls have no relation to Michael, therefore no real way to really glue on to Michael. Therefore it must be CC experiencing all of the observation rooms. Therefore we have the Nightmare Foxy jumpscare just like Michael does to him in the day. There are way too many parallels to it being CC's memories. The only thing that goes against it is "these are my friends", but I think CC loves them so much that his undying love for these plushes is so strong that he can still love them.
In my mind alot of evidence leads to indicate that FF can simply not be 100% canon, but a parallel. Because if it was 100% canon there would be alot of information that counterdicts eachother. I think you have misunderstood what the ultimate guide was trying to tell us. And I hope you will consider that option in the future. But else have a good day Under_Score.
@@blackmamba1773 I do agree with you that there is a lot of evidence showing that the FF books are not 100% Canon but a parallel.
But I will say that you misinterprete the midnight motorist minigame. Orange guy is clearly not William for the simple fact that William is the only relevant murder in 1983 that we know about in the lore. (We know that midnight motorist is from 1983 because in UCN cutscene “toy Chica’s high school years” Toy Chica/William says to a victim “and if he does not open the door, I will just find a window.” And we see a broken window from one of the kid’s bedroom in midnight motorist.)
We know that Orange guy’s kid was killed and burried. William would not kill CC, plus that would break Canon. Henry most be orange guy, becuase it fits that Henry will go drinking alot to cope with Charlotte’s death. And we know Henry has 2 children (from the silver eyes Saga books) Charlotte and Sammy. And on the upper side outside of the midnight motorist house, we see 2 windows. This indicates that there are 2 children bedrooms. Clearly evidence to show it’s Henry’s house. The midnight motorist house is also not at all the same location and looks as William’s house.
@@blackmamba1773 There is a spot in midnight motorist where you can go through the trees and see a grave. The midnight motorist is clearly days or weeks after Charlotte’s death. We know from the FNAF 4 minigame that William’s car is legit blue, not purple. The purple car must therefore be Henry’s. And as I mentioned before the House is not the same as William’s. William lives in town not outside of it. So it can’t be William. Plain and simple. Orange guy’s color is different from the Fredbear plush. Michael’s text is a bit more Dark gray than the person we see watching TV in Midnight motorist (he is a bit lighter gray). Henry is most likely in a lot of grief, so Henry it’s possible that he drinks alot and takes his anger out on the famliy. Scott did not need a game to unconfirm “miketrap” he did it on a post. You have no proof supporting that Scott did the minigame guy “orange” because of “miketrap” Theory.
All of your points you are trying to make have no proof in them what so ever.
@@blackmamba1773 After FNAF 4 Bite of 83, they most likely tried to rebrand the Fredbears location. And because this bonnie suit is not the same bonnie as in FNAF 4 minigame, and it's not the same bonnie as in the earliest Fredbears, Stage 01 in FNAF 3 minigame. So William had an excuse to make his Rabbit suit cuz of rebranding of the FNAF 4 location, but really used it to kidnap, maybe experiment, and kill children.
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The old poster from SB gives us the information that we need, that the glitchtrap suit existed in 1983. Which solidifies that Orange guy is Henry even more. And orange guy's kid is clearly getting kidnapped, killed and buried. And William is the only one in the lore who does that. And Orange guy's house does not look at all like Williams.
Futher supporting that the midnight motorist game takes place in 1983 is “toy chica’s high school years”. That is indicating that it’s when William is at his very early stage at killing kids (and we know the MCI is in 1985, so it has to be before that, therefore 1983). Toy Chica/William says to one of his victims that “if he does not open the door, I will just find a window” (In the video time 3:53 ruclips.net/video/fuS_VdSPOiQ/видео.html). What do we find in midnight motorist? A broken window. We also see that the victim Toy Chica/William is talking about looks exactly like the puppet, but male. How is the puppet related? Well if we say that Orange guy is Henry then the Victim must be his son Sammy (Henry’s son in the silver eyes Saga books). And we know the puppet to be Henry’s daughter, so the kid who dies in midnight motorist most be Sammy. Since he is shown as a male puppet. And in “Toy Chica’s High School Years” we see Toy Chica/William talking to about the male puppet at night time (normally the cutscenes in “toy chica’s highschool years” is at daytime, so it’s clearly telling us something here). Midnight motorist is happening at night time. There is way too much parallels between “Toy Chica’s High School Years” and Midnight Motorist. This would also make sense, because Scott always try to clear things up from his previous game by creating another game.
The Henry parallel with midnight motorist is also there when we are talking about for example the windows in the house. The 2 windows, 2 children bedrooms, 2 children, Henry has 2 children (William has 3 bedrooms, 3 children) It would make sense that Henry is depressed, drinks and uses his anger against others. So the kid who is kidnapped by most likely afton in the Glitchtrap suit. Henry could be depressed because of his daughter's death. The house is also not at all close to any pizzeria. And juniors is most likely a bar of some kind. The design of William's house is not at all close to the Afton's house.
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Sammy is most likely taken, killed and buried after the bite incident in 1983 because of this old poster from SB. And William even mentions that he will go into a window and take a kid if he does not meet with him. This is mentioned in Chica's early high school years.
The argument for William killing Sammy, is that we see footprints that matches the physical glitchtrap suit. 3 toes, just like the glitchtrap suit.
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We also see dirt pilled up when you glitch through some trees in the midnight motorist minigame. This must be showing us William burying Sammy after killing him. It’s a grave. There is almost nothing else it could be referring to. But there is another thing that makes sense too, and it’s that funtime freddy have been with William too (and was hiding in the woods) and took Sammy and burried him with Funtime Freddy (animatronics burying themselves has been seen in the Silver Eyes saga books).
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William wants to kill Henry's children after his son, the crying child dies, and most likely also Michael dies in an accident (therefore the crying child is locked inside the parts and service in fnaf 4 minigame. Because something happened 1 day before the party. That can also explain the different appearance of Michael and his Silver Eyes) (The idea of Human Michael dying in a accident is proposed by the "one step closer" book, and in FNAF 4. So in FNAF 4 minigames, 1 day before the party. CC gets locked in the parts and service. And we know that William must be busy with something else, since the Fredbear plush is not here to say "tomorrow is another day" to CC. And in the birthday party, Michael has a different skin color, and have silver eyes. Like if he was a humanoid. Like if Michael died and William locked CC in the parts and service to not witness Michaels death.). So Williams 2 sons dies, therefore he kills Henry's 2 children. And William blames Henry for their death. Most likely because William is very busy with work for Henry (cuz Henry own FE), and therfore William blames Henry instead of himself for their deaths. Cuz if he was not busy with work he could have stopped both deaths for happening. So William has the motive, the opportunity, and the means and time to do kidnap and kill Henry's son. And Orange guy's house does not fit the Afton's house. And the symbolic elements with the windows.
William mentions to take a kid from a window. Or rather told, verbal confirmation. It all points to that Orange guy is not William. And that Orange Guy is most likely Henry.
So to sum up:
There is much evidence suggesting that Orange Guy is William (as I have mentioned). There is motive, opportunity, the means and time to kidnap Henry’s son (thereby not being Orange guy). And there is verbal conformation from William that he is not the Orange Guy. And the relevance of Midnight Motorist is therefore strong and not random and weird. It also does not counterdict anything in canon and it makes the story more interesting. And it also answers a lot more questions than it’s asking.
@@blackmamba1773 Right, it’s not a literal gravestone in the sense that there is no Stone on it. But it’s a grave. What else could it be? Do you have any suggestions? Because it’s very relevant else Scott would not make it a secret/ Easter Egg. It would make sense that it was a place where the kid was burried, because William killed him and burried him. If you say it’s not a grave, then you make it more difficult for yourself. If it’s not a grave then we never know what really happened to that kid, and we will not know what that pilled up dirt would mean. So if you say it’s a grave, then we answer 2 questions and create no new unanswered questions.
And you do know that William is not literally purple right? Therefore we can not trust the car color either from FNAF 2. So therefore his car is not purple.
The blue car is right here: tumblr_inline_pcbju0g9Ar1r0t2x8_540
We know that it’s some weeks or days after Charlotte dies because of “Toy Chica’s High School Years”. Toy Chica/William first kills 5 kids before she/he kills the male Puppet. And depending on William killing a victim each day or week, it’s been days or weeks for Henry to handle Charlotte’s death. Therefore the reason it’s said “later that night” is becuase after Toy Chica/William talks to the “male Puppet”/the kid. He later that night comes to his House and kills and burry him. Simple.
Scott is not slacking off, he likes his community too much when he made FNAF 6 and 7. Those games was literally to the fans and was free. Therefore William does not live in the midnight motorist house. You also forget that who wears a suit and take children that is not William? No one who we know of. So Orange guy can not be William. This is what is called commen sense.
My points have evidence. If you would take the time to read what I just wrote to you prievously and now. It’s you who does not reference enough about things in the games and instead a lot about what you think Scott’s intention was and what you think is right. This is not evidence. That is not commen sense. Use the clues set in stone for you in the games, to make an argument on the topic at least.
I agree kind of! I personally think that TOYSNHK is either the Crying child or Sammy, as you call him. Honestly CC (or Sammy’s) father could be either or, could be William Afton or Henry Emily, it could literally be either one lol and there is evidence for both. Perhaps Sammy, or evan, or whatever the hecking hell his name is, is the biological son of Henry, but then later William afton adopted him and became his adopted dad????
I'm going to be real here the only thing that really kills this theory is that the continuity of the books are different from the games and yes Scott said you can use some of the books to answer some questions of the past games but I think this is going a bit too far
cuz Cassidy
Theory Michael hid in his hidden room during fnaf 4 the only animatronic he saw was nightmare fredbear so that's why we don't see nightmare fredbear on night 1 2 3 4 he was trying to get Michael on night 5 he gave up that's just a theory a game theory nightmare fredbear was banging on Michael's door but he gave up
Isn't the vengeanful spirit meant to be Cassidy not this Andrew?
Vengeful spirit in game ucn is boy not girl
Cassidy is girl black hair long
Andrew boy has same character Vengeful spirit in fazbear fright story
@@killerman3715
A) The Puppet has been referred to by he/him despite being a girl named Charle Emily. So the gender of the kids is wishy washy at best.
B) Andrew doesn't seem to exist in the games lore. There's like zero evidence for it.
@@modmaker7617 you play ucn ?
Kids talk about spirit not animatronic
@@modmaker7617 fazbear fright William Kill 6 kids
Games Kill 15 more
But 7 important
@@killerman3715
And those important game children are;
Charlie Emily
Gabriel
Jeremy
Susie
Fritz
Cassidy
Also Elizabeth Afton & Crying Child (Evan Afton) but they weren't killed by Willy.
Andrew doesn't exist in the games.
Box: crying child. Direct setup for Gregbot in SB.
what about the flowers medical iv on the bedside table?
As I was Watching the video, an ad For the Live-action Pinocchio film Popped up... Is Pinocchio the Crying Child? Oh. My. GOD!!!
I really enjoyed listening to this theory. It makes a lot of sense in my opinion, and it does solve most of the questions that were mentioned in this video.
Great theory
Ok...,buuuut what about Cassidy, didn't we establish them as the vengeful spirit
exactly, I don't buy this one. Maybe part 2 will answer it though.
Yeh that one was saved for Part 2
Cool
no
cassidy is a girl
vengeful spirit is a boy
Ok, but their gender was never revealed and when Scot was instructing there voice he said "it should work for either a young boy or a young girl" so either could work, I'm just saying Cassidy shouldn't be ignored during this discussion.
Lets gooo underscore is back
1:16 see when you see this in your FNAF theory then you know ya screwed up.
unbased
very interesting. Because I haven't been listening to fnaf theory's for a long time. I have thought the books were completely walled off from the games or are just some elements canon in the games while the books are still separate from the games or are they the same universe? I am extremely confused! Ver good video I enjoyed it quite a lot!
different universe. but the stories details hint at the games lore. many people think that Andrew in the books is actually a stand in for cassidy.
What about midnight motorist being called later that night in the game files of FNAF 6?
I did say “later that night” in the video
I still doubt that the Stitchline is in the games and Andrew's the kid in MM. Since if Orange Guy is Andrew's father, why would Scott introduce this random character that we don't know the name and never uses him again after FFPS (you might say BV also doesn't have a confirmed name but some media like FNAF World and Jake's story in the stingers shows that BV does have importance in the series). I feel like would make sense if William was Orange Guy because the man matches Afton's behavior to Elizabeth in TFC, the man's text also matches the Fredbear plush's text in the earlier minigames in FNAF4 (if you believe Willplush), and it would a way for Scott to clear up the idea of Afton literally being purple since yellow is opposite of purple and it's supposed to represent the shadows.
Secondly, Andrew being canon in the games would ruin Cassidy's importance in the series, because why would Scott keep Cassidy's name a secret in FFPS and the Logbook but reveal Andrew's name later on in the stingers 3 years later? And also, most names of the MCI appear in the FF books but not the name Cassidy and that the scrapped "Cassidy" screenplay was supposed be in the movie but not Andrew, who is supposedly TOYSNHK in the games, which leads me to believe that Cassidy is important.
Thirdly, Burntrap's existence. According to TMIR1280 which is after the FFPS fire, William's body explodes at the end of the story. However, there's still flesh in Burntrap's body in SB. If the stingers are in the games, why would Vanny take Glamrock Freddy to the underground pizzeria if Afton's body is not even there? Because I find it impossible that Vanny somehow put Afton's remains back together.
Fourthly, the story "You're the Band" in Felix the Shark seems to debunk the Stitchline being in the games because:
- Timmy's bedroom is one of the locations Larson visits in the 11th stinger which confirms the story is in the Stitchline.
- One of the characters mentioned that there has been no Freddy's locations because of the MCI which happened 30 years prior, even though we've seen 2 locations even after the murders.
- Timmy talked about dead kids being lined up on the wall which similar to what Oswald seen in ITP which confirms that the ITP murders is the accurate version of the MCI in the FF. It also means that the people saw the incident even though the games said that the kids went missing and were lured separately.
- Timmy is lured by The Shadow (who might be Eleanor) which shows us that BV might have been lured to Fredbear's by Shadow Freddy or Bonnie in MM since Eleanor seems to represent the Shadow Animatronics because she created SB in Hide-and-Seek.
- The animatronics also seem to be intact in the story even though their parts were stolen by William in order to obtain Remnant for Funtimes (as confirmed from Candy Cadet, FFPS Insanity Ending, TFC, and TUG) and that their shells used for Fazbear's Fright but not their endoskeletons.
Finally, the FNAF World Update 2 map. This was brought up by Krakoa and ImpulseEvan in some of his videos is that in the map, it shows 7 graves with one of them away from the others. You may think that 7th grave is Charlotte while the others are the main 5 and Andrew but the map also shows the Purple Guy sprite near the 6 graves. This means that the 7th victim is not one of Afton's victims. It's possible BV is the 7th victim since he was lured by Shadow Freddy, who is William's evil because he was the trap used by Afton in Follow Me, BV is the one who putting the pieces together to free his friends in FNAF World and 3 (I'm NOT saying that he's Michael), and that TCHSY references MM.
And that's all. Sorry I had to make a whole essay, those were just the reasons of why I think Stitchline is not in the games since it would confuse new fans and ruin the timeline since Scott only said it would clear some of the lore. Anyways, you still made a good video!
wait can u give me a link to the stitchwraith book i cant find it anywhere
The Stitchwraith is a collection of 11 individual stories, 1 of each as an epilogue at the end of every Fazbear Frights Book. I made the book cover used in the video, there is no Stitchwraith Book though I wish there was.
@@Under_Score ohh ok thank you.
I still think MatPats Take of Andrew representing Cassidy is still true
But what you theorized here could have happened to her
andrew = cassidy
Also, if im not wrong, cassidy means curly hair, and andrew does have curly hair.
I love this theory!!
what do you have a theory on, from like the entire series like do u believe dream theory, or that the entire series is just a literal game or like real, what do u think
FNaF 4's story retconned so much that it has to be explained it some extreme nonsense sci-fi, supernatural, chaotic style. Scott made the 4 as a story ender but it was so bad that he retconned all of it. Shame on scott
he didn't though? the premise is still the same it's just that he adds some additional info, that't not really retconning.
Very intreeging theory but i think the jr location we are shown is actually a fnaf 2 Location not fredbears family diner, but why would William return to the scene of the crime? it would make sense if the person we are following was Jeremy Fritzjerald instead of william afton cause he had worked at a previous location and would in turn be turned away but the car and the house is still iffy to be honest but i do indeed love your theory tho it really opened up new ideas for me thank you
Omg he actually posted!
Just realized, wheres nightmare fredbears hat?
Nice theory but if fazbear frights is in the game timeline then does help wanted and sb take place after fazbear frights or before
after, I should do a video on where it all fits
@@Under_Score good idea
I also have a theory: FNaF 3 Takes place in 2015.
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I believe everything in fnaf 4 doesn’t make sense cuz it wasn’t meant to be interpreted that way.. take the first 4 games as if all was just a dream/nightmare/hallucinations of an extremely imaginative boy who is on his death bed and it will all make sense.
Into The Pit is “Save Them”
Yes YES YES OMG preach bro!!!! This is definitely the correct answer, and I have no idea why more people don’t mention this point, because it was always SIX KIDS, not five, that were murdered in into the pit, but the mci only has five!! However save them has 6 blood stains which matches up with SIX kids being murdered in the into the pit murders in 1985. Plus William laid out the bodies for EVERYONE to see in the Freddy fazbear pizzeria in the into the pit AND save them murders, but in contrast the MCI had william concealing and stuffing the kids into the suits and hiding them, and this is something that we do NOT see happen in the into the pit murders.
Save Them was fnaf 2 in 1987. ItP is in 1985.
New theory Andrew is the crying child
No just no please no
@@gus484 lmao
No no😂
Andrew dies same way William dies fnaf 3
Fuck no bro, you sound like Matpat
I will explain:
First, Elizabeth is the first dead child, and because of that, William is keeping the crying child away from the animatronics by making him afread of them. Which explains why William putted his OWN SON In the nightmare experience. To keep him safe from the animatronics by making him afread of them for not getting close to them
@@blackmamba1773 I think Nightmare meant the first afton family member to be dead not one of the missing children seeing how she’s pretty absent throughout Fnaf 4 which could lead to the possibility of the Crying Child seeing her death where she got scooped up by Baby that traumatized him to the fear of animatronics.
@@blackmamba1773 the first murder victim yes but the first afton family member to die no cause that’s Henry's daughter.
I’m not twisting the truth I’m just saying which of the afton family members kicked the bucket first. Which is neither crying child or Elizabeth we are not talking about Charlie because she isn’t a member of the afton family.
I think nightmare just made an typo in terms of being the first child that instead could’ve just been first afton child to pass away.
@@blackmamba1773 Yea ik I was talking about the first afton member to die not the first character to die in this series of course Charlie/Puppet is the first one. Don’t worry I got that though my head I was just thinking that I should be correcting Nightmare about the first afton member to die that lead to William to become more wary of his other children to not follow the same animatronic death as Elizabeth. Pretty simple.
very interesting and entertaining perspective
I like it whether it true or not
worth subscribing to
this is a good video
I love this theory
It's been so long...
That was very cool
Later that night?
mortified means embarrassed 😃
We are far from solving it
These are things I've been things I've been trying to tell the fanbase for years. Don't agree with everything but it's a great video.
I'm desperate to solve the mysteries of FNaF 4. As your subscriber, I won't miss this!
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The real question is, How did Andrew think about the FNAF 1 nightmare characters and some characters like mangle and puppet from FNAF 2 characters? And also, all I knew was that the nightmare we see in FNAF 4 is Michael's nightmares as Andrew.
Nah this isn't it, feels more like fanfiction
Probably is
Then who is Cassidy?
Golden Freddy
@@sirfazbear4993, but Andrew is golden Freddy?
@@Avaitor_YT No💀
Andrew is just a silly parallel to Cassidy, *HE IS NOT GOLDEN FREDDY*
@@sirfazbear4993, no I also disagree with the theory, I'm saying where would Cassidy go if Andrew was golden Freddy?
@@Avaitor_YT Don't think about it at all, Andrew isn't relevant, I was just going on about this in Discord yesterday 😂
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Bro i hate this theory so much 💀
Same, it makes no sense
Where's Antoine Dodson, cuz this is
So dumb
So dumb
So dumb
so dumb
Its like everytime Scott makes a character in a book to parallel a character in the games, all you book followers scramble to fit it into the games lore, like its a new additional character. There is no Edwin in the games. No Elanor, no stitchwraith, no andrew. Those are ALL examples of book characters created to PARALLEL game characters. Its honestly irritating AF that steel wool even put the mimic in the ruin dlc. But even then, its just that- DLC. DLC is rarely ever canon in Fnaf. The only example I can think of of canon DLC is balloon boy in fnaf4.
Let me break it down for you...
The kid isn't a runaway. And he's not Andrew from the books. Its Foxybro. Mrs. Emily left Henry for Will, taking her son Foxybro with her to live with Will and his son Crying Child. But Foxybro doesn't like living with William who he finds creepy, or CC who he thinks is a crybaby. So whenever possible, Foxybro breaks out and goes to THAT PLACE (Freddy's- his dad Henry's restaurant, where he feels safe.) This irritated step-daddy Afton (who still owned and operated Fredbear's Family Diner), who then put locks on the boy's bedroom window, and stationed a nightmare animatronic outside his room, both in an effort to keep the boy inside. In MM, Foxybro had to break the window, because Willy locked it. Foxybro was then able to get passed where the nightmare animatronic usually was, because it was raining, and William brought it inside. That room is the precursor to the fnaf4 room. "He ran off to that place AGAIN" This isn't the first time the kid got out. Hence the locked, broken window, and the animatronic footprints. Will swears to himself that he'll make Foxybro regret it when he gets home. And he does. He takes all Foxybro's stuff and moves him into a room Will set up in his underground bunker. A room with no windows to climb out, no rain to ruin animatronics, and a nightmare animatronic guarding each door. Let me see you get out now you little brat.