At this point for gaming only, you don't even need i5 or i7 anymore like almost a decade ago except for flexing. i3 and good gpu still gonna give you a smooth 4k 60fps lol
its not at this point, its always been like this, if you gpu-bound your setup on purpose you actually never needed a cpu above i5, and i argue now i3 since they have 4 cores.
12100 has 4 chad cores while 3600 has 6 virgin cores. Its cores are at least 30% stronger, that's huge difference, and since most of the stuff nowadays is still single-threaded, you will get much more pleasant and snappy experience when browsing or working using 12100.
Most stuff is not single threaded these days. Not sure what you are doing but most stuff uses atleast 2 cores and many things use 6 cores now. It has become pretty common when laptops and desktops mostly have 6 cores now. The 12100 will have a great everyday performance I am sure, but don't overlook the lack of L3 cache on the Intel chip. It really affects everyday tasks and multi tasking as well as the overall IPC.
@@Jimster481 Laptops. I've got a problem with a one from my job. Its cooler stars spin very fast for a couple minutes and pretty annoying. Try to guess what is a reason of it. Exel! It loads a cpu up to 20% for a while. I can' t remember i have a similar problems on pc ever.
modern consoles are 8 cores so games the are developed for them are optimized for 8 cores. single core performance mattered 20 years ago when intel was pumping out dual cores forever. 4 cores is the bare minimum for future titles.
@@UncannySense Basically. Even these super wide 4 cores basically just match the 3600 6 core which is already a 3 year old chip.... The 12400F doesn't even beat the 5600X in gaming which is 6c vs 6c....
Despite being a 4 cores 8 threrads, the i3 12100f achieves higher framerates with about 10% average higher cpu utilization compared to the overclocked 6 cores 12 threads R5 3600. It seems like the higher cpu utilization for the 12100f comes from the higher fps not the lower number of cores/threads and that's alderlake's ipc in action. The i3 12100f performs better even with the heavy multithreaded game like shadow of the tomb rider in which the higher number of cores/threads should provide the biggest benifits. The i3 12100f does that with lower power consumption and temprature and about half the cost of the R5 3600 and that's truly amazing value to be honest.
The 3600 isn't actually OC'd. They used some garbage PBO settings. It should be known that this channel is basically owned by Intel. they always paint AMD CPUs in a bad light to prop up intel claims. The Z690 board allows this chip to forever boost. The cooler information isn't specified either but typically they run AMD on a box cooler and Intel on a 360mm CLC.... So while the 12100F is indeed fast, this video is taking its performance out of context. Manually adjusting clockspeeds of the 3600 usually results in it being slower and drawing more power. Since the nature of the "OC" isn't explained here and this channel is a heavy Intel bias channel (likely owned by Intel itself) you cannot take the results of either CPU to be totally legit.
@@Jimster481 Stop crying and don't write false information. The R5 3600 will boost at 4.1ghz on stock so a 4.3Ghz is considered overclocked and it's a good overclocking for the majority of the 3600 chips. If you want 4.4 or 4.5ghz you will need high voltages which isn't safe for 24/7 usage and will result in high power consumption though only some good 3600 chips can reach it in the first place and it will not uplift the performance that much to change the performance image shown in this video. Second intel cpus have fixed turbo tables and the i3 12100f will boost to 4.1Ghz all-cores no matter the chipset used . It's actually AMD chips whose boost clocks depend on temprature and will work at the highest clock in thier specs if the temprature was low enough and most youtube channels have been testing AMD chips using water cooling from a long time and let them boost forever to show performance scores that can't or hardly achieved using bexed or air cooler.
@@adamfreeman3319 clearly you don't have any AMD chips because it's not really how it works. You are correct that AMD boosts based on temperature but Intel boosts based on time. Only Z series motherboards are guaranteed to have no time limit pl2 boosting. Which means that if you buy a cheaper motherboard you may be limited to 60 to 180 seconds of boost time (depending on core and clock). With the 12th Gen platform you are at least able to use XMP on a B series board. However with the exception of a single board for $100 the B series motherboards start at $130. On amd's side you can get a b450 for only $60. Or a b550 for $70. Considering that this 10100f ship does not exist and is likely to never exist in any quantity especially in countries like the United States: this video is rather pointless. If you were to buy a 3600 for its $200 MSRP and then purchase a $50 to $60 motherboard to use it with you would only be spending $260. Whereas unless you found a 10100 for this magical 80-something dollar price that they are pretending is a real price... you are currently looking at paying $130 for the CPU and then $130 for the motherboard. Meaning that the price of this CPU and motherboard is actually still the same as a 3600 plus a b450 motherboard. Why do you think that none of these videos ever test the Intel CPU with a B series motherboard? Because nobody wants to show off the lower performance that you get with Intel by purchasing a cheaper motherboard. However with AMD you can get all the performance out of a A320/A520 board. Test like cinebench or geekbench are definitely deceiving because the entire test completes inside of the stock pl2 boost window. Which lets you be deceived about the performance that you will get in real-world tasks like gaming. I was unfortunate enough to be duped by this in the past when building a system for my friend. I can never forget how after three minutes of gaming I was seeing a massive FPS drop. After doing some logging I would realize that after three minutes the Boost. Expired and the H series motherboard that I had chosen would not allow the CPU to boost forever... This also happen to me when building my NAS for my house. I originally had a Celeron j1800 which is Atom based. The CPU would hit 2.41 GHz boost which had no problem satisfying my gigabit network connection. However when I started watching high bitrate 4K movies I would notice that the movie would starts to lag after a few minutes and it would pick up again and then lag again... this was once again once again be running out of boost time and the CPU dropping to 800 MHz... I ended up replacing this with my old AMD A4-3200 dual-core... where it has been running for the past 6 years now and has no problems delivering 1 gigabit-per-second 24/7 if it needs. So the moral of the story is that Intel's performance is deceptive and not consistent versus what is shown by benchmarking channels and websites. Whereas amd's performance is pretty much exactly what they claim out-of-the-box. The idea of thermal boosting limits is actually a better concept because it means that as long as you can get a decent cooler you can unlock more performance from your CPU without needing to spend more on the motherboard.
@@Jimster481 You don't have to write an article to clear your thoughts. Intel cpus never throttle during gaming unless reaching extreme temprature which is unlikly to happen during gaming workload and in the case of most intel chips, excluding some i7 or i9 series chips, the chip will hold its all-core turbo forever during gaming and most other apps workloads except avx2 workload.Also Who said that cinebech scores alone reflect gaming performance??gaming needs good ipc and high clock rates and better memory subsystem including memory latency and cache. In the argument of deception, For Intel, only some high clocked i7 or i9 series chips might not show their full performance on limited power delivery boards and that might be deceptive for some users but i3 and i5 series chips normally arn't that power hungry and reviewers usually give notices about the power needed to run a specific chip in its full glory so that buyers beaware of that before buying. But with AMD, about all reviewers test them using water cooling that helps them mantain very low temprature and sustain the single core boost clock all the time and that is considered also deception for some buyers who intend to use the box cooler or a low to medium priced air coolers that can't keep the clock speeds that high to get same performance shown in those reviews. Also about all reviewers use high frequency/low latency memory and other memory configuration tricks (like dual/qued memory banks, 4 sticks of ram instead of 2) that is known to benefit AMD chips more than Intel chips and they , I mean reviewers, don't put the effort in writing memory configuration on the performance graphs and that is considered deception because many users don't even notice memory configuration and focus only on the graphs.
They use more threads, but in games there is allways a mainthread needed . It's not like Cinebench where all cores can work independently 100% because threads have to wait for the mainthread in order to synchronize things like Sound, Graphics and input.
not really, they don't have too much stock so wouldnt gain. also many still buy 5600x and 5600g. I'd love for more to buy 5600x and 5800x actually, so when 5800x3d or 6000 series launches, I can maybe get one for cheap on the used market.
Nice. Can I ask out of curiosity, why not the rx 6600? I think even a 6650xt is not much more expensive, but much faster. Unless you got the 1650super for like 50 bucks
@@churomantr интелбой повелся на выгодную цену и купил Р5 2600 поменяв старика ай7 3770, получил 5% прибавки в играх и только синтетика показывала больше, короче шило на мыло. В итоге купил 11400 и доволен как слон, вот где прогресс на лицо за вминяемую цену!
Also Ryzen is running with custom settings that they don't publish. So be sure that they made the Ryzen as slow and hot as possible to make Intel look good.
@@trr4gfreddrtgf yup, because I've built multiple 3600 machines for friends and that is a super cool running chip. Meanwhile I have a 12th Gen laptop and 12th Gen runs hot
Ещё бы с ryzen 1600 сравнили. Это разные поколения хоть и у ryzen больше ядер. Но в общем то разница не критична, учитывая очень дорогую карту rtx 3090. Интересно с rtx 3060 какая разница была бы.
lol the i3 it's better if you just want to play/browse, the people saying "in the future you'll need 6 cores", well, this is an i3, you can sell the i3 and upgrade to an i5 12400f (that will be more cheaper in that "future") or buy another platform...
I would still buy the 3600. The performance disadvantage is not great. On the other hand this CPU will have a longer lifespan due to having more cores and you can upgrade to a 5800X3D in future even with an A320 motherboard. With the i3 you could put a better processor in future but Alder Lake i5s will not be as fast as a 5800X3D. i9s and i7s are imo out of the question as they simply draw too much power for the expected budget motherboard that you would pair with this i3.
Do not ever buy a gt 710. The 1030 is the best choice if you go new. The 660 could be faster in a few games, but the card will not work in many new games due to DX12 and driver issues. I would look for an rx570 4gb used on ebay.. much faster
I wont buy none of these but its amazing to see how 4cores can play everything smoothly. 2-3 years ago we all believed that they died and the new games needed 6cores to run smooth. Then the 3300x prooved us wrong and these i3s.
I don't understand why so many of yall make this same comment. This video shows you the full potential of the i3-12100f and ryzen 5 3600 by pairing them with a top tier GPU so there will be no GPU bottleneck to skew the results. So from this video, you know what framerates this CPU is capable of pushing. Then you go look at 3060 benchmark video and see what it's capable of. It's not hard from there to infer what you could expect with them together.
The R5 3600 has about 80% cpu usage in the same game you noticed the i3 has 90% cpu usage so it's very close and don't forget that the i3 has higher fps
El problema no es cual es mejor lo que veo es que le hace cuello de botella a la gráfica si usará una gráfica más acorde al procesador se ve mejor la referencia ya que usan una 3090 y claramente ambos aun hacen cuello de botella
@@Jimster481 where do you live, africa? In my country we usually get tech stock in low numbers or later than our neighboring countries but 12100f is available in all the big shops here for good price. So idk what's your argument that it doesn't exist. In the US for example Walmart has it available I just checked now.
@@damara2268 I live in the USA. The 12100 isn't available in the USA right now. There are only 2 for sale on ebay imported from other countries. There was an initial few in stock for a couple days and there haven't been any in stock since then. Also with no reviews on Newegg and no listing on Amazon; my guess is that there are no sales or actual stock. I searched Walmart and I think you misread; you type 12100 and you get 10100F. Make sure that those local stores really have stock in real numbers... rather than like 5 units which is what it seems like exist for these CPU's. Meaning that globally there are likely less than 1000 of these CPU's.
@@Jimster481 I just checked 3 shops and all are showing that they have the i3s in stock. In total there's about 10 shops where you can buy it here right now. Guess that the i3 became a very very popular choice in the US and that's why it's sold out. Here most people buy 10th gen i3, i5 or Ryzen 5600x. And overall, not many are building a new PC right now here because the graphics card pricing is totally insane so many many are waiting for prices to settle a bit again. In the US you at least can get an Rx 6600 for around 450$. Here that card has a minimal price of 620$. 3060 is 800$, 6600xt 730$. No one really wants to spend such money. And the 6500xt which costs 260$ for you, is here for 400$ minimal price. So even a shit card is expensive af.
@@NeoSpaceMax Nobody in the real world would pair a 12100f with a 3090 anyway. Also nobody will pair a 12100f with a $600 Motherboard with DDR5 Support. (Assuming people know what they do). But makes total sense for benchmarking CPUs in games.
It's how to test to fully utilize both CPUs at 1080p gaming, higher end GPUs are for gaming at higher resolutions, the higher you're resolution the less strain is put on the CPU and more on the GPU
well is ok because 3rd gen was agains 9th gen so after 3 gens i guess is weak now compared to intel and is normal after 3 years so what u say dosent make sense at all think a moment please
@@monke2361 it is still a good value. The Intel motherboard they use here to achieve this performance costs $300.... More than the CPU + board of the AMD solution.
At this point for gaming only, you don't even need i5 or i7 anymore like almost a decade ago except for flexing. i3 and good gpu still gonna give you a smooth 4k 60fps lol
"no you need a 5950x or 12900K to be a serious gamer"
its not at this point, its always been like this, if you gpu-bound your setup on purpose you actually never needed a cpu above i5, and i argue now i3 since they have 4 cores.
for this generation of cpu's yeah lol not older generations of i5's and i7's
It depends, if you are a streamer you need an i5
I guess 12400f is enough to handle triple a modern gaming:p
12100 has 4 chad cores while 3600 has 6 virgin cores.
Its cores are at least 30% stronger, that's huge difference, and since most of the stuff nowadays is still single-threaded, you will get much more pleasant and snappy experience when browsing or working using 12100.
Most stuff is not single threaded these days. Not sure what you are doing but most stuff uses atleast 2 cores and many things use 6 cores now. It has become pretty common when laptops and desktops mostly have 6 cores now.
The 12100 will have a great everyday performance I am sure, but don't overlook the lack of L3 cache on the Intel chip. It really affects everyday tasks and multi tasking as well as the overall IPC.
@@Jimster481 Laptops. I've got a problem with a one from my job. Its cooler stars spin very fast for a couple minutes and pretty annoying. Try to guess what is a reason of it. Exel! It loads a cpu up to 20% for a while. I can' t remember i have a similar problems on pc ever.
modern consoles are 8 cores so games the are developed for them are optimized for 8 cores. single core performance mattered 20 years ago when intel was pumping out dual cores forever. 4 cores is the bare minimum for future titles.
@@UncannySense Basically. Even these super wide 4 cores basically just match the 3600 6 core which is already a 3 year old chip.... The 12400F doesn't even beat the 5600X in gaming which is 6c vs 6c....
browning and working? nah, it wont matter. in fact 3600 is better for work stuff because 6 cores.
The new budget king.
Despite being a 4 cores 8 threrads, the i3 12100f achieves higher framerates with about 10% average higher cpu utilization compared to the overclocked 6 cores 12 threads R5 3600. It seems like the higher cpu utilization for the 12100f comes from the higher fps not the lower number of cores/threads and that's alderlake's ipc in action. The i3 12100f performs better even with the heavy multithreaded game like shadow of the tomb rider in which the higher number of cores/threads should provide the biggest benifits. The i3 12100f does that with lower power consumption and temprature and about half the cost of the R5 3600 and that's truly amazing value to be honest.
both cpu's are bottle necking that 3090 tho
The 3600 isn't actually OC'd. They used some garbage PBO settings. It should be known that this channel is basically owned by Intel. they always paint AMD CPUs in a bad light to prop up intel claims. The Z690 board allows this chip to forever boost. The cooler information isn't specified either but typically they run AMD on a box cooler and Intel on a 360mm CLC....
So while the 12100F is indeed fast, this video is taking its performance out of context.
Manually adjusting clockspeeds of the 3600 usually results in it being slower and drawing more power. Since the nature of the "OC" isn't explained here and this channel is a heavy Intel bias channel (likely owned by Intel itself) you cannot take the results of either CPU to be totally legit.
@@Jimster481 Stop crying and don't write false information. The R5 3600 will boost at 4.1ghz on stock so a 4.3Ghz is considered overclocked and it's a good overclocking for the majority of the 3600 chips. If you want 4.4 or 4.5ghz you will need high voltages which isn't safe for 24/7 usage and will result in high power consumption though only some good 3600 chips can reach it in the first place and it will not uplift the performance that much to change the performance image shown in this video. Second intel cpus have fixed turbo tables and the i3 12100f will boost to 4.1Ghz all-cores no matter the chipset used . It's actually AMD chips whose boost clocks depend on temprature and will work at the highest clock in thier specs if the temprature was low enough and most youtube channels have been testing AMD chips using water cooling from a long time and let them boost forever to show performance scores that can't or hardly achieved using bexed or air cooler.
@@adamfreeman3319 clearly you don't have any AMD chips because it's not really how it works. You are correct that AMD boosts based on temperature but Intel boosts based on time. Only Z series motherboards are guaranteed to have no time limit pl2 boosting. Which means that if you buy a cheaper motherboard you may be limited to 60 to 180 seconds of boost time (depending on core and clock).
With the 12th Gen platform you are at least able to use XMP on a B series board. However with the exception of a single board for $100 the B series motherboards start at $130. On amd's side you can get a b450 for only $60. Or a b550 for $70.
Considering that this 10100f ship does not exist and is likely to never exist in any quantity especially in countries like the United States: this video is rather pointless.
If you were to buy a 3600 for its $200 MSRP and then purchase a $50 to $60 motherboard to use it with you would only be spending $260. Whereas unless you found a 10100 for this magical 80-something dollar price that they are pretending is a real price... you are currently looking at paying $130 for the CPU and then $130 for the motherboard. Meaning that the price of this CPU and motherboard is actually still the same as a 3600 plus a b450 motherboard.
Why do you think that none of these videos ever test the Intel CPU with a B series motherboard? Because nobody wants to show off the lower performance that you get with Intel by purchasing a cheaper motherboard.
However with AMD you can get all the performance out of a A320/A520 board.
Test like cinebench or geekbench are definitely deceiving because the entire test completes inside of the stock pl2 boost window. Which lets you be deceived about the performance that you will get in real-world tasks like gaming. I was unfortunate enough to be duped by this in the past when building a system for my friend. I can never forget how after three minutes of gaming I was seeing a massive FPS drop. After doing some logging I would realize that after three minutes the Boost. Expired and the H series motherboard that I had chosen would not allow the CPU to boost forever...
This also happen to me when building my NAS for my house. I originally had a Celeron j1800 which is Atom based. The CPU would hit 2.41 GHz boost which had no problem satisfying my gigabit network connection. However when I started watching high bitrate 4K movies I would notice that the movie would starts to lag after a few minutes and it would pick up again and then lag again... this was once again once again be running out of boost time and the CPU dropping to 800 MHz...
I ended up replacing this with my old AMD A4-3200 dual-core... where it has been running for the past 6 years now and has no problems delivering 1 gigabit-per-second 24/7 if it needs.
So the moral of the story is that Intel's performance is deceptive and not consistent versus what is shown by benchmarking channels and websites. Whereas amd's performance is pretty much exactly what they claim out-of-the-box. The idea of thermal boosting limits is actually a better concept because it means that as long as you can get a decent cooler you can unlock more performance from your CPU without needing to spend more on the motherboard.
@@Jimster481 You don't have to write an article to clear your thoughts. Intel cpus never throttle during gaming unless reaching extreme temprature which is unlikly to happen during gaming workload and in the case of most intel chips, excluding some i7 or i9 series chips, the chip will hold its all-core turbo forever during gaming and most other apps workloads except avx2 workload.Also Who said that cinebech scores alone reflect gaming performance??gaming needs good ipc and high clock rates and better memory subsystem including memory latency and cache.
In the argument of deception, For Intel, only some high clocked i7 or i9 series chips might not show their full performance on limited power delivery boards and that might be deceptive for some users but i3 and i5 series chips normally arn't that power hungry and reviewers usually give notices about the power needed to run a specific chip in its full glory so that buyers beaware of that before buying. But with AMD, about all reviewers test them using water cooling that helps them mantain very low temprature and sustain the single core boost clock all the time and that is considered also deception for some buyers who intend to use the box cooler or a low to medium priced air coolers that can't keep the clock speeds that high to get same performance shown in those reviews. Also about all reviewers use high frequency/low latency memory and other memory configuration tricks (like dual/qued memory banks, 4 sticks of ram instead of 2) that is known to benefit AMD chips more than Intel chips and they , I mean reviewers, don't put the effort in writing memory configuration on the performance graphs and that is considered deception because many users don't even notice memory configuration and focus only on the graphs.
I'm surprised that so few games use more than 4 cored
They use more threads, but in games there is allways a mainthread needed . It's not like Cinebench where all cores can work independently 100% because threads have to wait for the mainthread in order to synchronize things like Sound, Graphics and input.
AMD is crazy not to reduce the price of their 5600x and 5600g
not really, they don't have too much stock so wouldnt gain. also many still buy 5600x and 5600g.
I'd love for more to buy 5600x and 5800x actually, so when 5800x3d or 6000 series launches, I can maybe get one for cheap on the used market.
Now price is redused. 5600g is selling in 17k.
IPC is high enough to handle games above 100 fps even with 100%.
in some games there will be a cpu bottleneck cuz 4 cores
Got a new rig. i3 12100F, GTX 1650 super. No regrets. BTFO the i5 2500 gtx 1050ti rig it replaced (surprise surprise)
Nice. Can I ask out of curiosity, why not the rx 6600? I think even a 6650xt is not much more expensive, but much faster. Unless you got the 1650super for like 50 bucks
Hi, thanks for this video test great, what software is used to display the information (cpu,gpu,temp etc)
Msi afterburner
@@HatemAshraf 🙏
next maybe i3 12100f vs i3 10100f/05f?
never thought i would see the day that that an i3 doesnt suck
I3 doesn't suck since i3 8350k.
I3 12100f: New Chad
Ryzen 5 3600: Old Virgin
what os you use?
почему ты не указал частоту оперативной памяти? вообщето у R5 ддр4, а у i3 ддр5
Please i3 12100F Vs r3 3300x
you can oc r5 3600. the mobo costs much less. it has 2 times more l3 cache.
Ryzen 5 3600 run smoother in every game while i3 has a lot of shuttle in games fortnight, five m, naraka ,warzone2
3600 6900xt vs 12100 3090?? 1080- 4k
el problema es el precio de la placa :/
Vs 10600k oc would be nice.
Так что переходить с 3600 на 12100?
processador de 2019 e processador de 2022, intel está indo bem mais enquanto nao liberar overclock pra memoria ram eu nao volto pra essa plataforma
Where vat?
Será que aguenta fazer live e jogar ?
so se vc usar a placa de video pra fazer a live
Thanks for this video
But it's without browser and another active programs.
i3 12100f vs i9 9900k
Райзен 3600 скатился, что уже и i3 обходит! I5 пинали, а теперь очередь i3) Рвет опу у амудешников на британский флаг!
Поколения процессоров разные
@@vstinuaishere так он с самого начала скайлейку проигрывал, а цену подняли фанаты благодаря блохерам.
@@Denis-bj5hz Да - да - да. Как скажешь :)))
Последний год-полтора интелобои никак не могли зашить порванную опу, только сейчас зашили, болит еще наверное...
@@churomantr интелбой повелся на выгодную цену и купил Р5 2600 поменяв старика ай7 3770, получил 5% прибавки в играх и только синтетика показывала больше, короче шило на мыло. В итоге купил 11400 и доволен как слон, вот где прогресс на лицо за вминяемую цену!
why ryzen 2 gen old ? just do this video for intel wins 12 gen vs 5000 (5000 series 1 years old but last AMD series)
Also Ryzen is running with custom settings that they don't publish. So be sure that they made the Ryzen as slow and hot as possible to make Intel look good.
@@Jimster481 You have a very valid point. 47c on the i3 and 63c on the ryzen 5, very odd.
@@trr4gfreddrtgf yup, because I've built multiple 3600 machines for friends and that is a super cool running chip. Meanwhile I have a 12th Gen laptop and 12th Gen runs hot
@@Jimster481 I have a 3600 myself, I rarely push 60c with a hyper 212.
@@trr4gfreddrtgf Yea exactly, it will hit 60 regularly on the box cooler. But rarely hits 70c...
I bought a ryzen 5 3600 for $20, I'd rather buy it than an i3 12100f
3 years difference
Super strong single core 12th
Ещё бы с ryzen 1600 сравнили. Это разные поколения хоть и у ryzen больше ядер. Но в общем то разница не критична, учитывая очень дорогую карту rtx 3090. Интересно с rtx 3060 какая разница была бы.
Тут скорее вопрос цены, 100 USD vs 200 USD
@@Fill1350 ага и материнки на 1700 в 12-15к .. и против 5-6 к
@@gertpikf5680 только недавно вышли на 1700, летом будут тоже по 5-6к
lol the i3 it's better if you just want to play/browse, the people saying "in the future you'll need 6 cores", well, this is an i3, you can sell the i3 and upgrade to an i5 12400f (that will be more cheaper in that "future") or buy another platform...
А при чем тут 12100 и 3500 .. а 12100 и 5600 ????
If Intel will make a good iGPU one day, AMD will have to sweat.
they're working on it.
Ryzen 5 3600 07/07/2019
wtf bench 3600 with 3090...
I would still buy the 3600. The performance disadvantage is not great. On the other hand this CPU will have a longer lifespan due to having more cores and you can upgrade to a 5800X3D in future even with an A320 motherboard. With the i3 you could put a better processor in future but Alder Lake i5s will not be as fast as a 5800X3D. i9s and i7s are imo out of the question as they simply draw too much power for the expected budget motherboard that you would pair with this i3.
13600k spanks your 5800x3d and sends it packing to bed 😅
после тестов должна быть еще и цена.
well done, intel
Which should i buy im getting used gtx 660 and gt 1030 which will be better or new gt 710 please tell
Are you asking about vc or cpu? I've recently heard 1030 is better than 660 but don't know how much.
Do not ever buy a gt 710. The 1030 is the best choice if you go new. The 660 could be faster in a few games, but the card will not work in many new games due to DX12 and driver issues. I would look for an rx570 4gb used on ebay.. much faster
GTX 660 if you have to, never ever buy a 1030
Best value and budget card is Radeon RX 6500 XT.
I wont buy none of these but its amazing to see how 4cores can play everything smoothly. 2-3 years ago we all believed that they died and the new games needed 6cores to run smooth. Then the 3300x prooved us wrong and these i3s.
huh pretty weird, isnt it? on benhmarks ryzen scores higher but in reality intel wins here
i d like to see with a 3060 or a 3060ti..... 3090 is too much for this 2 cpu
They use a 3090 to purposely bottleneck the CPU. This makes the differences shown more reliable because the CPU is what is holding the system back.
I don't understand why so many of yall make this same comment. This video shows you the full potential of the i3-12100f and ryzen 5 3600 by pairing them with a top tier GPU so there will be no GPU bottleneck to skew the results. So from this video, you know what framerates this CPU is capable of pushing. Then you go look at 3060 benchmark video and see what it's capable of. It's not hard from there to infer what you could expect with them together.
i3 90 percent per usage hai
The R5 3600 has about 80% cpu usage in the same game you noticed the i3 has 90% cpu usage so it's very close and don't forget that the i3 has higher fps
@@adamfreeman3319 yes but i5 3600 90 percent and i3 90 make any difference
But you cant buy this cpu easily
It's easier and cheaper to buy then a 3600 or a 5600, the Intel motherboards though is expensive if you want a decent one
I3 vs i9
El problema no es cual es mejor lo que veo es que le hace cuello de botella a la gráfica si usará una gráfica más acorde al procesador se ve mejor la referencia ya que usan una 3090 y claramente ambos aun hacen cuello de botella
1:14 72% vs 92%
i3 12100f lags only at one place that is price 😁😂
Except it doesn't even exist.... Haven't seen it in stock anywhere and the price from a 3rd party store is like $130+.
@@Jimster481 where do you live, africa?
In my country we usually get tech stock in low numbers or later than our neighboring countries but 12100f is available in all the big shops here for good price.
So idk what's your argument that it doesn't exist.
In the US for example Walmart has it available I just checked now.
@@damara2268 I live in the USA. The 12100 isn't available in the USA right now. There are only 2 for sale on ebay imported from other countries. There was an initial few in stock for a couple days and there haven't been any in stock since then. Also with no reviews on Newegg and no listing on Amazon; my guess is that there are no sales or actual stock.
I searched Walmart and I think you misread; you type 12100 and you get 10100F.
Make sure that those local stores really have stock in real numbers... rather than like 5 units which is what it seems like exist for these CPU's. Meaning that globally there are likely less than 1000 of these CPU's.
@@Jimster481 I just checked 3 shops and all are showing that they have the i3s in stock.
In total there's about 10 shops where you can buy it here right now.
Guess that the i3 became a very very popular choice in the US and that's why it's sold out.
Here most people buy 10th gen i3, i5 or Ryzen 5600x.
And overall, not many are building a new PC right now here because the graphics card pricing is totally insane so many many are waiting for prices to settle a bit again.
In the US you at least can get an Rx 6600 for around 450$. Here that card has a minimal price of 620$. 3060 is 800$, 6600xt 730$. No one really wants to spend such money.
And the 6500xt which costs 260$ for you, is here for 400$ minimal price. So even a shit card is expensive af.
the worst part of this is the cpu's are bottle necking that rtx 3090
That is the best part of this video. If the GPU was the bottleneck, it wouldn't be a CPU benchmark video anymore
In 4k there's no more bottleneck since its more a high res gpu
@@NeoSpaceMax Nobody in the real world would pair a 12100f with a 3090 anyway. Also nobody will pair a 12100f with a $600 Motherboard with DDR5 Support.
(Assuming people know what they do).
But makes total sense for benchmarking CPUs in games.
It's how to test to fully utilize both CPUs at 1080p gaming, higher end GPUs are for gaming at higher resolutions, the higher you're resolution the less strain is put on the CPU and more on the GPU
амд все равно лучше! потому что !!!
3600 sucks even with 12 threads, like it was with AMD FX chips at the earlier 2012 🤣
well is ok because 3rd gen was agains 9th gen so after 3 gens i guess is weak now compared to intel and is normal after 3 years so what u say dosent make sense at all think a moment please
@@florinszasz5506 amd fanboy crying 🤣
@@exfat5129 but what he said is True
@@alexcoutinho2354 no 🤣 Intel da best, AMD is trash 1111111, owned
@@florinszasz5506 yes but even intel 9th is better in gaming
ryzen is dead
lol man, ryzen 5 3600 is 2,5 years old
the r5 3600 is still a great value lol im also not runing a rtx 3090 with it
@@ethan4209 it’s not good value to buy right now, but If you already have it then keep it
@@monke2361 it is still a good value. The Intel motherboard they use here to achieve this performance costs $300.... More than the CPU + board of the AMD solution.
@@Jimster481 the 3600 is over $200 why would anyone buy it
Ryzen 5600X Win.😎😏
For double the price
Какая стоимость 5600 не подскажешь....???What cost 5600 you will not prompt....???
Wow 100 euro cpu vs 250 euro cpu, ryzek 5 3600 should beat this one but it doesnt.
@@Denis-bj5hz материнка + процессор получается одинаково
@@midnightgarage2325 triple, in fact