You make it sound like removing the fruiting bodies is a bad thing. It's a life cycle, the bodies are meant to be moved in order to distribute spores. Picking mushrooms does not hurt the mycelium organism. Personally when I pick mushrooms I wave them around to propagate spores xD
Correct. Mushrooms have been collected since recorded history. Picking mushrooms is no different than picking an apple. Apple trees and boletus mycelia still exist. Other than that point video was on point.
I dont think waving them around does very much. If you pick them for consumption, you pick them young, before they are ready to release they're spores... But that's my theory...I'm a mushroom grower tho, not a picker...
This channel mainly focuses on botanicals and she acts like a know it all just because she read some stuff off of google. "Only imagination will help you to grow porcini at home" pretty condescending comment but not surprising coming from somebody who said she picked up a "genus" of a mushroom in the first few minutes of the video when she should have referred to the species i.e the formosa variety but what can you expect from somebody who hasn't studied mycology?
@@tonylee1393 Actually I have a degree in biology. I do not use “Google” or “RUclips” knowledge to make my videos I prefer books. If you disagree with me please present your arguments.
@@Classyflowers It's really ironic because if you actually read the thread you would realize you are proving my point. You are being condescending and you don't know mycology. Humble bragging that you have a "biology" degree and then conflating that with understanding mycology shows the depth of your education. If you actually took the time to read my statement like you do your "books" you would realize I didn't mention RUclips videos because there is nothing wrong with RUclips videos, as a matter of fact Paul Stamets has posted plenty of videos online and if you know anything about mycology you would know he's one of the premier mycologist. You're probably going to say things like "google owns youtube same difference or then whats wrong with using google then?" to which I would say there is nothing wrong with using google its just the way you use it again acting like you know when you clearly don't. These points clearly went over your head and you're just mad somebody called you out so you felt the need to validate yourself by saying "I have a biology degree", very classy of you.
xD i did it with lactarius deliciosus in my yard and it worked. I never had this mushroom in my yard and a few years later, since i started dropping cuts of lactarius under a pine, i had one fruit so the spores successfully collonized the roots of the pine. Ah btw it is a 100+ years pine.
Thank you for explaining! I went to the market the other day, and to my surprise, I saw porcini mushroom spores being sold - for growing. I had never heard of anyone doing that, so I had to explore this topic
At least you did it, and though you doubt it,my friend just contacted me to show me the Boletus edulis growing where he innoculated several years ago in an Oak forest An Oak forest in Australia where they have never been recorded before. It works
@@Classyflowers He took some fresh caps, not so fresh actually, whizzed them up in a blender and then diluted into 20L of water. add some molasses and liquid humates, then drizzled than in shallow furrow lines throughout a 100 year old Oak plantation. That was 5 years ago. Fruits this year but some may have been missed last year
most importantly this species has never been recorded in this area before. its a recent find from another state and he was sent some caps so he could try his hand at innoculation
@@Classyflowers when i can get some caps from him i will be innoculating cuttings of Simon poplar and Cottonwood with Boletus edulis. you can google a paper on that. link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11461-008-0077-9
I guess I am fortunate as I have a silver birch tree in my back garden and this summer the crop formed a ring around the trunk of the tree about 2m radius from the trunk.I collected the crop and have dried them until they are biscuit dry and crumble to dust when crushed, perfect for soups.
15 years seems reasonable to wait for them to grow if it's going to work. Yes, one day we will understand this third party involved in the relationship between these mushrooms and trees.
I used to have a porcini patch behind my caravan on a farm where i lived. What a luxury. I used to think perhaps the only 'farming method' that might be feasible would be to water that patch of pine needles during dry times. I never tried it though.
With that type of attitude, I’m sure they will grow down the street too! The mind is most powerful. Think it into existence. Thanks for the video. Very nice 👍🏾
it’s a really shitty lc :/ they should just clone clean tissue and do it on agar then spread it around trees it probably will have some success or use it to make straw spawn
Hello!! congratulations for the nice video!! you used two products in the mix, sugar and another that I didn't understand, could you tell me? greetings from Brazil
@@Classyflowers Sorry, I didn't understand your answer, why are you teaching how to reproduce, if this is not possible? I have a coniferous forest in Brazil and I would like to reproduce them. Here it already has porcini in some areas I saw that you mixed two products in the bucket together with the mushrooms and I would just like to know what it is, because I don't understand the English language perfectly. Thank You!
mushroom does not decompose matter nor does it feed nutrients to a trees roots. a mushroom is the fruiting body of mycelium, which is actually what helps the trees to absorb nutrients. It is also the actual organism of the fungus. Taking boletes from the forest is not harmful to trees or to mushrooms. That mushroom is there to spread spores, then get eaten by ants and bugs then rot and get moved back into the soil as more organic matter. Most mushroomers know to pat mushrooms before harvesting or collecting them in a basket to help spread spores. Picking a mushroom does not kill any organisms. and explain me why would mushrooms that you seeded to grow onto the roots of a tree grow 5 houses away from the tree. I'm not saying you can grow porcinis by throwing them into some substrate but what youre doing in this video isn't utter nonsense its actually exactly what happens in nature, which is perfect. Youre throwing essentially what is a giant bucket of spore solution onto a tree so that the spores can be dispersed throughout the soil and form mycorrhizal relationship with the tree. That is how these mushrooms even reproduce in the first place
Mushroom mycelium can grow and spread to significant distances. Just in 24 hours, the hypha of the mushroom can add about a kilometer in length. Boletus edulis can easily develop rings up to 30 meters in diameter. So mushrooms aren’t bushes or trees, if you plant them near the fence do not expect them to sit and produce fruits right at the same place.
Classy Flowers Morel mycelium networks are quite similar, but Stamets discovered that scorching the soil near a host tree induces fruiting. The Mycelium tries to reproduce by spreading spores when it begins to starve in poor soil. That’s the missing piece of the puzzle. Someone also discovered that inoculating a potted sapling, and later killing it, triggers fruiting.
This is amazing, love you’re step by step fake reasoning. My favourite moments in life we’re picking cep with my dad… I was always wondering why we couldn’t grow them. I’ve always known the forests are magic, fingers crossed those tasty treats pop up in ten years !!🎉
So did you ever have any bolete grow out from the spore water you made? Any updated video for it? I like to see if anyone has successfully grow them. Thank you!
@@oneshortgamer2540 It looks like you a very educated person especially in biology. Can you give me a link to at least one company on this planet that grows porcini mushrooms ?
@@Classyflowers where do you think big companies get massive amounts of porcini? they don't grow in labs because they need host tree that's literally all.
There's gotta be a way. Someday someone will perhaps invent an "artificial root" system, where the necessary sugars, hormones, etc can be interfaced with the fungi. I'd like to know how they solved the "morel" problem. Apparently they provide some type of mineral reservoir for the morels to access which seems to work....maybe something along those lines? Who knows?
Cant someone just grow the trees and substrate into their backyard and use spores to grow porcini ? It will not be indoors but its still a cultivation method.
It's not that they don't know the other parts and pieces (algae, moss, fungi, etc) involved, they just don't want people being able to know how to use the land, or to grow them indoors.
@@Classyflowers спасибо! Кстати, вот еще нашел материал на тему, ruclips.net/video/iIEv-nzg-U0/видео.html , что думаете? Может стоит попробовать все таки?
Amanita Muscaria should not be labeled as poisoness. It is used as medicine when dried and stored properly. It can be also eaten after boiling it twice (dump water) for 15 min each time. You can fry it afterwords. Tastes great!
Can I ask do you feel that picking boletus masively causes it to be more rare and less likely to be found? I mean can we run it into disapearing from local forrest due to overpicking? And would it help to leave some? Sorry, and when do spores come off? Is it all of the time or after fruit reaches certain age?
doubt it. you're not destroying the mycelium. just picking the fruiting body. like picking an apple basically. but you shouldn't pick more then you have to of course. i think most boletus mushrooms constantly produce spores. even after being picked. as a little science experiment, you could pick a mushroom put it down on a piece of paper and after a few hours you'd have whats called a spore print. these prints can vary in shape and color.
@@downey2294 unfortunately here i Europe I saw many people gathering mushrooms and putting them in a plastic bag. I always use a basket and tend even to enlarge the holes between the wickers in order to let spread as much more spores as possible. I also gather some of the oldest mushrooms and cut them in pieces spreading them nearby where i found the mushroom. Hope it can help the regrowth but if it takes 10 or 15 years to the mycorrhiza in order to become fruitful, well...i am glad if someone else will profit of the future growth.
Mushrooms like porcini (boletus) developed mycelium from decaying oak trees and pine cones. There are not repopulating plant like a sunflower hence why it takes so long to grow and trees take a long time decay. There hundreds of porcinis in the sub layer of the forest remember it is a fungus and one man can’t find them all. And if you left a porcini out in the woods too “spread more” someone else will take it
@@johnberryman4530 hm if growing a fruit takes energy and all of fruit is being picked before spores are released than fruit is being deprived of its purpose. I belive mycelium like any other fungy will eventually use up all resources from its surroundings and therefore relies on spores for finding a new habitat. Spores unlike mycelium can travel relatively long distances and are likely to find suitable soil. In my opinion, systematically picking mushrooms before fruit has had a chance to release spores will eventually kill all mycelium.
The bottom part of mushrooms stems may have very important identification characteristics, that could be easily missed if cut. For example Harriya chromapes has yellow bottom or Boletus speciosus has red pigmentation at the bottom or Xanthoconium affine has very tapered white bottom.
One thing you said I know is wrong, that is that the trees need to be 40 to 50 years old. I know this is wrong because I have these mushrooms (called Karl Johan in Swedish) growing in my front-yard and the trees are certainly not that old. They also grow all through the Swedish forests and those forests are frequently logged and replanted. But yes, it is definitely true that they do not grow in very young, fresh plantations. I guesstimate that maybe it's more like half the time you suggest. But I'm guessing.
Virtually all boletes are mycorrhizal (and those that aren't still tend to have very specific nutritional requirements) so there is no close saprotrophic relative to grow easily. I don't know any mushrooms outside of the boletes that taste/smell like porcini, sadly.
any update? You could invite some professor or students from a university for the task to take soil samples, to search in them for the BE mycelium. That would be interesting.
Yes. They grow under Spruce, Oak, Hemlock or Fir in certain elevation, certain soil and etc... If you hope to grow them artificially, forget about it. For good. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE PEOPLE!!!
information on porcini goes round and round in circles. the amount of contradiction has me tentatively convinced that nobody is reliably inoculating trees with porcini. most worryingly, some sources insist the target tree must be old, while others insist this can only happen when the tree is very young, before exposure to other mycorrhiza. i think this is a topic where knowledge in scientific literature hasn't really escaped into general knowledge, and proprietary commercial knowledge hasn't escaped into scientific literature. it's quite common for large private organizations to keep their research "in house". i know researchers can grow porcini in culture [eg pachlewska (1968)] but no idea whether that translates into any ability to inoculate trees. imo the starting point is searching for papers that cite the above reference. i'm definitely sick of looking for information outside of scientific literature, but most likely the best option is just giving up and paying for dried porcini. moving to colorado, where apparently they're abundant in pine forests, sounds attractive too
If you grow from spore instead of cloning from mushroom flesh, then would you still get porcini? Wouldn’t you get porcini-like children of porcini? I know that apples grown from seed are always different from apples cloned from a cutting..
I have smoked amenita for years and eaten them as well as a tea. It isnt a poison mushroom. To dry and smoke it gives you a small pot high. The tea will make you trip. Do some research. Its an wonderful mushroom.
I would not smoke amanitas, some of them have cadmium in them, nothing to worry about if you eat them, cadmium have low bioavailability orally. Smoked it passes your brain/blood barrier very effective, excessive smoking of amanitas can result in cadmium poisoning.
There are a few suggestions you can try pick the top type - there are lots available. grow them in the right environment - some eg oyster muchrooms like cool humid conditions and can be put outside (I discovered these and why they work from gregs mushroom grower site )
Some mushrooms are just not meant to be grown in your garden. The beauty in Porcini and few others like chanterelles are finding them in the nature. Its pure medication and gold. Great video, but keep your secrets for yourself. It's very few out there with this insight and this is how we make $$$ - on secrets ;-) Regards from DK
There is zero harm in attempting to spread mushrooms. Thats y they fruit is to spread. If they figured out how to grow morels im sure they could figure these out
The mushrooms want to grow and live......the tree dosent have to be 50 years old and it only takes that long to fruite because random weather conditions they wait till its perfect
You have to realize that foraging wild mushrooms DO NOT harm the trees that have Mycorrhizal shrooms w it!!! You say to " leave them in the woods where the trees that rely on it...." But Why?!! A normal mushroom pick will never affect them trees or self, considering 90ish % of the Shroomin is alive and well underground w the tree roots in their symbiotic relationship....
yeah i wish. But if it was possible, the price would not be that high. And I agree so much, toxic shit we put out, bad farming, constant making of more babies and more houses, it's all so sad when we have the chance to live another way, be more in relationship with nature, all we can do now is complain to our leaders and lead with example.
The problem is she is trying to grow the mushroom from spores and its not going to work. I you want to grow these mushrooms its easier grown from mycelium, that can be homemade in used coffee grounds, its also a bad idea to use an old mushroom when you can just take some of the mycelium from the stem and eat the rest. It one of the hardest to grow and I suggests starting with oyster mushrooms.
@@Classyflowers Not at home you can spread the mycelium and grow them close to some kind of tree preferably oak. I've done this and it works but you can believe whatever you want. mycorrhizal mushrooms need a relationship with roots of trees, this is hard to perfect and the reason you don't see these types of mushrooms mass produced the effort is not worth the payout. I find it funny how you've made a video and done all this, posting it online but then bash someones comment that had tried to help you. Saying it cannot be done when you've made a video on how to grow them at home. Okay 👍
@@Classyflowers Easiest way I've come across was growing trees from seed in sterile media (usually coir) and introducing mycorrhizal spores onto the roots and hope it takes. Its hard to do but not impossible, although I would clear it up is you need to be in the countryside to work as to plan a sapling and introduce the mycelium, the watering your tress with sugar and mushroom water you do will do absolutely nothing. But hey hate on a viewer of yours for no reason I'm sure that will make the channel grow. Also I'm done watching your videos.
@@Classyflowers Yes. I've grown my own mycelium from wild mushrooms and I've mixed it up in the soil and grown at the same time with a few saplings. It works but the effort is not the payout because its might not grow one year but will grow like a few every year. Then there are spots that just stopped fruiting altogether. If you actually want to try this grow it with a few trees and from mycelium not from spores.
they have always taught me that when you pick mushrooms you must completely detach the stem avoiding leaving part of the stem on the ground which rots and hinders the formation of new mushrooms in this video I always see the stem cut. Why?
You cut the mushroom not to disturb the mycelium below. Mushroom rotting does no harm to the fungus, they are primarily only formed by mycelium to produce spores and then rot anyways, so if there were no humans to pick them, almost every mushroom would get eaten by snails, worms, larvae... and eventually "rot" :)
It's almost a good video but why don't you report on the results? You say confidently that it wont work, but you never return to show us what happened. I learned some stuff about mushrooms though, so thank you.
Ok everything you did in this video was wrong for growing mushrooms... It's easy to grow mushrooms... But it's all about sterilization.. spores are delicate and can be contaminated easy. Just by touching them... You need to remove a mushroom cap without touching the bottom.. press it to a sterile paper for a spore print. Them you need to put it in a clean sterile jar with the right substrate (all mushrooms are different)... But mashing them with your hands and dumping them in the back yard will pretty much guarantee you won't grow mushrooms... Get a humidifier and mushroom grow box kid... Good luck and good video.
A sterile environment is only needed if you are growing indoors in a controlled environment like a tub. Otherwise how do you think any mushrooms would grow on the ground in nature? Do you think the ground is sterile? Of course not. I have made similar slurries from fresh mushrooms and inoculated outdoor patches with success.
@@marcelhoogstadhay1047 Again, it cannot work with porcini, as it is not a parasitic mushroom like most, it forms a mutual association with host trees. They exchange minerals and water in exchange for sugars and other substances.
Sam's right. It's a parasitic mushroom so it need a certain tree. And I'm not saying you CANT grow mushrooms without sterilization I'm just saying you'll have better success... Natural corn was the size of weat til people got a hold of it... People can help a situation believe it or not..
@@charlesttent8972 Well its not truly parasitic, more mutually beneficial (Mycorrhiza). It gives the tree nutrients in exchange for sugar. Parasitic mushrooms are you classic shop mushrooms, which grow on dead wood or effectively kill its host. Porcini is Mycorrhizial, meaning you cant grow it without a host tree - as it needs the living tree to survive.
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You make it sound like removing the fruiting bodies is a bad thing. It's a life cycle, the bodies are meant to be moved in order to distribute spores. Picking mushrooms does not hurt the mycelium organism. Personally when I pick mushrooms I wave them around to propagate spores xD
Correct. Mushrooms have been collected since recorded history. Picking mushrooms is no different than picking an apple. Apple trees and boletus mycelia still exist. Other than that point video was on point.
I dont think waving them around does very much.
If you pick them for consumption, you pick them young, before they are ready to release they're spores...
But that's my theory...I'm a mushroom grower tho, not a picker...
@@Theoldindie not necessarily. Lots of mushrooms, including boletes are often still enjoyable even after they start releasing their spores.
When you pick up a mushroom, even if you shake it a little to release spores, it won't release as much spores as if you had left it there
Flick before you pick
Should never use the phrase, "We are never going to understand." Our curiosity is insatiable, and our imaginations are relentless.
and still, we f**ck it up badly on a regular basis.
Only imagination will help you to grow porcini at home. Good luck!
This channel mainly focuses on botanicals and she acts like a know it all just because she read some stuff off of google. "Only imagination will help you to grow porcini at home" pretty condescending comment but not surprising coming from somebody who said she picked up a "genus" of a mushroom in the first few minutes of the video when she should have referred to the species i.e the formosa variety but what can you expect from somebody who hasn't studied mycology?
@@tonylee1393 Actually I have a degree in biology. I do not use “Google” or “RUclips” knowledge to make my videos I prefer books. If you disagree with me please present your arguments.
@@Classyflowers It's really ironic because if you actually read the thread you would realize you are proving my point. You are being condescending and you don't know mycology. Humble bragging that you have a "biology" degree and then conflating that with understanding mycology shows the depth of your education. If you actually took the time to read my statement like you do your "books" you would realize I didn't mention RUclips videos because there is nothing wrong with RUclips videos, as a matter of fact Paul Stamets has posted plenty of videos online and if you know anything about mycology you would know he's one of the premier mycologist. You're probably going to say things like "google owns youtube same difference or then whats wrong with using google then?" to which I would say there is nothing wrong with using google its just the way you use it again acting like you know when you clearly don't. These points clearly went over your head and you're just mad somebody called you out so you felt the need to validate yourself by saying "I have a biology degree", very classy of you.
xD i did it with lactarius deliciosus in my yard and it worked. I never had this mushroom in my yard and a few years later, since i started dropping cuts of lactarius under a pine, i had one fruit so the spores successfully collonized the roots of the pine. Ah btw it is a 100+ years pine.
Is so annoying some people treat mushrooms like plants. Interesting video keep up
This is a remarkably funny, confusing and educational video.
Thank you for explaining! I went to the market the other day, and to my surprise, I saw porcini mushroom spores being sold - for growing. I had never heard of anyone doing that, so I had to explore this topic
Fraud Don’t buy
I'm sure it is possible to inoculate seedling trees with mycorhysal fungi.
At least you did it, and though you doubt it,my friend just contacted me to show me the Boletus edulis growing where he innoculated several years ago in an Oak forest
An Oak forest in Australia where they have never been recorded before.
It works
How did he inoculate porcini? What method did he use?
@@Classyflowers He took some fresh caps, not so fresh actually, whizzed them up in a blender and then diluted into 20L of water. add some molasses and liquid humates, then drizzled than in shallow furrow lines throughout a 100 year old Oak plantation. That was 5 years ago. Fruits this year but some may have been missed last year
most importantly this species has never been recorded in this area before. its a recent find from another state and he was sent some caps so he could try his hand at innoculation
@@Classyflowers when i can get some caps from him i will be innoculating cuttings of Simon poplar and Cottonwood
with Boletus edulis. you can google a paper on that. link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11461-008-0077-9
Poplar and Cottonwood... 😂😂😂 Why not Cactus? 😂😂😂 Save yourself disappointment...
If i aim the spores with a gun .. do they spread faster?
I guess I am fortunate as I have a silver birch tree in my back garden and this summer the crop formed a ring around the trunk of the tree about 2m radius from the trunk.I collected the crop and have dried them until they are biscuit dry and crumble to dust when crushed, perfect for soups.
15 years seems reasonable to wait for them to grow if it's going to work. Yes, one day we will understand this third party involved in the relationship between these mushrooms and trees.
Indeed, and we should never use the phrase that, "We are never going to understand."
The third party.
Ants.
Yeah, it’s totally reasonable to try to get a patch going for 15 years later
I used to have a porcini patch behind my caravan on a farm where i lived. What a luxury. I used to think perhaps the only 'farming method' that might be feasible would be to water that patch of pine needles during dry times. I never tried it though.
great video! I'd be interested to see your checking back on this location next fall.
Trust me, I will
@@Classyflowers soooooooo what happened ?
@@ArialAElise Nothing happened
@@Classyflowers lol
@@Classyflowers Oh nooooo how disappointing!!
You are great. I love this. Thanks for saving me a bunch of heartache and teaching me a bunch at the same time. Right on
With that type of attitude, I’m sure they will grow down the street too! The mind is most powerful. Think it into existence. Thanks for the video. Very nice 👍🏾
Lol 200$/kg here in lithuania in early season july/early august it cost max 20-30/kg 🤣🤣🤣 and in mid august/september they drop to 5-10€.
I think she was talking about dried ones
I am sorry for you work. You interchange the mushroom 1:43 isn't porcini (Boletus). This is a Leccinum sp.
Leccinum is in the same family with Boletus Boletaceae. It does not change anything.
Looks like those instructions are to make a liquid culture or slurry. Spread it around the roots of the right trees and it will grow.
it’s a really shitty lc :/ they should just clone clean tissue and do it on agar then spread it around trees it probably will have some success or use it to make straw spawn
Hello!! congratulations for the nice video!! you used two products in the mix, sugar and another that I didn't understand, could you tell me? greetings from Brazil
Don’t waist your time You can’t grow porcini mushrooms
@@Classyflowers Sorry, I didn't understand your answer, why are you teaching how to reproduce, if this is not possible?
I have a coniferous forest in Brazil and I would like to reproduce them. Here it already has porcini in some areas
I saw that you mixed two products in the bucket together with the mushrooms and I would just like to know what it is, because I don't understand the English language perfectly. Thank You!
Not possible
mushroom does not decompose matter nor does it feed nutrients to a trees roots. a mushroom is the fruiting body of mycelium, which is actually what helps the trees to absorb nutrients. It is also the actual organism of the fungus. Taking boletes from the forest is not harmful to trees or to mushrooms. That mushroom is there to spread spores, then get eaten by ants and bugs then rot and get moved back into the soil as more organic matter. Most mushroomers know to pat mushrooms before harvesting or collecting them in a basket to help spread spores. Picking a mushroom does not kill any organisms. and explain me why would mushrooms that you seeded to grow onto the roots of a tree grow 5 houses away from the tree. I'm not saying you can grow porcinis by throwing them into some substrate but what youre doing in this video isn't utter nonsense its actually exactly what happens in nature, which is perfect. Youre throwing essentially what is a giant bucket of spore solution onto a tree so that the spores can be dispersed throughout the soil and form mycorrhizal relationship with the tree. That is how these mushrooms even reproduce in the first place
Mushroom mycelium can grow and spread to significant distances. Just in 24 hours, the hypha of the mushroom can add about a kilometer in length.
Boletus edulis can easily develop rings up to 30 meters in diameter. So mushrooms aren’t bushes or trees, if you plant them near the fence do not expect them to sit and produce fruits right at the same place.
Classy Flowers
Morel mycelium networks are quite similar, but Stamets discovered that scorching the soil near a host tree induces fruiting.
The Mycelium tries to reproduce by spreading spores when it begins to starve in poor soil.
That’s the missing piece of the puzzle.
Someone also discovered that inoculating a potted sapling, and later killing it, triggers fruiting.
Interesting
do you have the continuation of this? Did you get the next year or the year after?
Thank you for saving me TONS of time and heart ache!
Happy to help!
Ah yes. Yeast and alcohol, classically known for their fungi stimulating abilities.
Are you serious?
I actually went looking today, all I found was old ones! One week earlier I would have hit the jackpot 😭
rhaaa nooooooo
"almost famous"
This is amazing, love you’re step by step fake reasoning.
My favourite moments in life we’re picking cep with my dad… I was always wondering why we couldn’t grow them.
I’ve always known the forests are magic, fingers crossed those tasty treats pop up in ten years !!🎉
1:05 Amanita muscaria can be depoisoned in a certain way. did you know?
So did you ever have any bolete grow out from the spore water you made? Any updated video for it? I like to see if anyone has successfully grow them. Thank you!
No, It is impossible.
@@Classyflowers because you don't know how to do it, saying something is impossible when so many people are doing it is really ignorant.
@@oneshortgamer2540 It looks like you a very educated person especially in biology. Can you give me a link to at least one company on this planet that grows porcini mushrooms ?
@@Classyflowers where do you think big companies get massive amounts of porcini? they don't grow in labs because they need host tree that's literally all.
@@oneshortgamer2540 You could not find even one company that grows porcini? Read about porcini, educate yourself before leaving ignorant comments.
There's gotta be a way. Someday someone will perhaps invent an "artificial root" system, where the necessary sugars, hormones, etc can be interfaced with the fungi. I'd like to know how they solved the "morel" problem. Apparently they provide some type of mineral reservoir for the morels to access which seems to work....maybe something along those lines? Who knows?
Ive thought about this for yearssss
Cant someone just grow the trees and substrate into their backyard and use spores to grow porcini ?
It will not be indoors but its still a cultivation method.
It's not that they don't know the other parts and pieces (algae, moss, fungi, etc) involved, they just don't want people being able to know how to use the land, or to grow them indoors.
If you can't grow porcini how do they get introduced to different countries
Definitely by “seeds” bought from Amazon!. They were introduced millions years ago by our Creator.
where is the link to original video which you are clearly using translated?
На русском пожалуйста:Как вырастить много белых грибов дома? РАЗОБЛАЧЕНИЕ ОБМАНА
ruclips.net/video/yMk-Wy2FaeY/видео.html
@@Classyflowers спасибо! Кстати, вот еще нашел материал на тему, ruclips.net/video/iIEv-nzg-U0/видео.html , что думаете? Может стоит попробовать все таки?
Amanita Muscaria should not be labeled as poisoness. It is used as medicine when dried and stored properly. It can be also eaten after boiling it twice (dump water) for 15 min each time. You can fry it afterwords. Tastes great!
Thank you, I will stick with porcini.
Can I ask do you feel that picking boletus masively causes it to be more rare and less likely to be found? I mean can we run it into disapearing from local forrest due to overpicking? And would it help to leave some? Sorry, and when do spores come off? Is it all of the time or after fruit reaches certain age?
doubt it. you're not destroying the mycelium. just picking the fruiting body. like picking an apple basically. but you shouldn't pick more then you have to of course.
i think most boletus mushrooms constantly produce spores. even after being picked. as a little science experiment, you could pick a mushroom put it down on a piece of paper and after a few hours you'd have whats called a spore print. these prints can vary in shape and color.
@@downey2294 unfortunately here i Europe I saw many people gathering mushrooms and putting them in a plastic bag. I always use a basket and tend even to enlarge the holes between the wickers in order to let spread as much more spores as possible. I also gather some of the oldest mushrooms and cut them in pieces spreading them nearby where i found the mushroom. Hope it can help the regrowth but if it takes 10 or 15 years to the mycorrhiza in order to become fruitful, well...i am glad if someone else will profit of the future growth.
Mushrooms like porcini (boletus) developed mycelium from decaying oak trees and pine cones. There are not repopulating plant like a sunflower hence why it takes so long to grow and trees take a long time decay. There hundreds of porcinis in the sub layer of the forest remember it is a fungus and one man can’t find them all. And if you left a porcini out in the woods too “spread more” someone else will take it
@@johnberryman4530 hm if growing a fruit takes energy and all of fruit is being picked before spores are released than fruit is being deprived of its purpose. I belive mycelium like any other fungy will eventually use up all resources from its surroundings and therefore relies on spores for finding a new habitat. Spores unlike mycelium can travel relatively long distances and are likely to find suitable soil. In my opinion, systematically picking mushrooms before fruit has had a chance to release spores will eventually kill all mycelium.
2 years now. Any mushrooms? 😄 I hope it works. 👐
You guys put a ton of work into this video!!! Great Job- Number one fan from USA.
Could you please elaborate why you cut boletus near ground on picking?
The bottom part of mushrooms stems may have very important identification characteristics, that could be easily missed if cut. For example Harriya chromapes has yellow bottom or Boletus speciosus has red pigmentation at the bottom or Xanthoconium affine has very tapered white bottom.
Yeh when i saw porcini "seeds" to plant on amazon i was like really!? Mushroom seeds?
Which season should I plant the spores?
It doesn't matter. It will never grow.
Any updated video on this growing Porcini mushrooms?
You can not grow porcini mushrooms
@@Classyflowers Thank you so much for the update.
What time of the year were you doing your "planting"? thanks.
Does it really matter? In fall
Did you ever get any mushrooms out of this exercise?
Zero
Sooo... Have you expanded your territory and started to mark neighbour trees with mycelium by now?
No
One thing you said I know is wrong, that is that the trees need to be 40 to 50 years old. I know this is wrong because I have these mushrooms (called Karl Johan in Swedish) growing in my front-yard and the trees are certainly not that old. They also grow all through the Swedish forests and those forests are frequently logged and replanted. But yes, it is definitely true that they do not grow in very young, fresh plantations. I guesstimate that maybe it's more like half the time you suggest. But I'm guessing.
Just watched your video. Thank you very interesting and informative! So after those long 3 years any luck, or still nothing to harvest?
Zero
Great video.. cheers!
Is there a very close saprophyte alternative? Great video. Saved me a tonne of time.
Virtually all boletes are mycorrhizal (and those that aren't still tend to have very specific nutritional requirements) so there is no close saprotrophic relative to grow easily. I don't know any mushrooms outside of the boletes that taste/smell like porcini, sadly.
@@erikjones7612 thank you I thought this would be the case
Hey. So now it's a year after your video....any results this fall?
What do you think? Absolutely nothing!
Love vids that give you the inspiration to go homestead
any update? You could invite some professor or students from a university for the task to take soil samples, to search in them for the BE mycelium. That would be interesting.
Nothing happened yet. Mycology is neglected mega science. We do not know much about fungi.
I don't think you started from spore. You could have taken a sample from the inside, and put it to agar.
This was eye opening.
Any update on the porcini mushrooms?
Yes. They grow under Spruce, Oak, Hemlock or Fir in certain elevation, certain soil and etc... If you hope to grow them artificially, forget about it. For good.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE PEOPLE!!!
Great content thx for the info
Dang go to the forests on the west coast of Washington state in the early fall and you'll find more Porcini than you know what to do with.
Chanterelle and Lobster popping everywhere too
This isn't edulis I dont think 😅 compare to leccinum?
10 - 15 years??? Damn I am going to cry now
What a result,can you success
So they are like chanterells in how they grow?
PiecesOfNature Yes they are
@@Classyflowers can i ask you which are your top 5 mushrooms in flavour out of those you can cultivate at home fairly easily?
information on porcini goes round and round in circles. the amount of contradiction has me tentatively convinced that nobody is reliably inoculating trees with porcini. most worryingly, some sources insist the target tree must be old, while others insist this can only happen when the tree is very young, before exposure to other mycorrhiza. i think this is a topic where knowledge in scientific literature hasn't really escaped into general knowledge, and proprietary commercial knowledge hasn't escaped into scientific literature. it's quite common for large private organizations to keep their research "in house". i know researchers can grow porcini in culture [eg pachlewska (1968)] but no idea whether that translates into any ability to inoculate trees. imo the starting point is searching for papers that cite the above reference. i'm definitely sick of looking for information outside of scientific literature, but most likely the best option is just giving up and paying for dried porcini. moving to colorado, where apparently they're abundant in pine forests, sounds attractive too
I agree
If you grow from spore instead of cloning from mushroom flesh, then would you still get porcini? Wouldn’t you get porcini-like children of porcini? I know that apples grown from seed are always different from apples cloned from a cutting..
I think a mushrooms are result and sign of a sick soil and old tree roots. In healthy forest (with wild garlic,Ramsons) has no mushrooms.
Without mushrooms, there’s no forest!
I have smoked amenita for years and eaten them as well as a tea. It isnt a poison mushroom. To dry and smoke it gives you a small pot high. The tea will make you trip. Do some research. Its an wonderful mushroom.
I would not smoke amanitas, some of them have cadmium in them, nothing to worry about if you eat them, cadmium have low bioavailability orally. Smoked it passes your brain/blood barrier very effective, excessive smoking of amanitas can result in cadmium poisoning.
Nice. Thanks for the info
So did you see if your experiment worked
No, It did not
It looks too dry there.
There are a few suggestions you can try
pick the top type - there are lots available.
grow them in the right environment - some eg oyster muchrooms like cool humid conditions and can be put outside (I discovered these and why they work from gregs mushroom grower site )
@@marlonsitoprunita7436 You can not grow mycorrhizal fungi such as porcini mushrooms
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Some mushrooms are just not meant to be grown in your garden. The beauty in Porcini and few others like chanterelles are finding them in the nature. Its pure medication and gold.
Great video, but keep your secrets for yourself. It's very few out there with this insight and this is how we make $$$ - on secrets ;-)
Regards from DK
For some reason the porcini here don't taste nearly as good as in Italy, where they are harvested in the late summer.
Are they exeptionally tasty though?
@@PiecesOfNature in Italy They're awesome 😍😋😋😋
Negativity is getting us nowhere. Thanks for the heads up and also the confusing video
they grow at the bottom of chestnut trees
And also under spruce, pine, birch, oak etc.
So you are saying if someone can figure it out that person would instantly become a millionaire; sounds like a challenge I'm willing to accept.
Good luck!
they grow at the bottom of chestnut trees
@Michael Friello
No they do not. Their trees are Oak, Spruce Hemlock, and Fir. Chestnut is NOT their symbiotic tree.
There is zero harm in attempting to spread mushrooms. Thats y they fruit is to spread. If they figured out how to grow morels im sure they could figure these out
Boletus edulis growth is deffinetly increasing in my country
What does it mean?
The mushrooms want to grow and live......the tree dosent have to be 50 years old and it only takes that long to fruite because random weather conditions they wait till its perfect
You have to realize that foraging wild mushrooms DO NOT harm the trees that have Mycorrhizal shrooms w it!!!
You say to " leave them in the woods where the trees that rely on it...."
But Why?!! A normal mushroom pick will never affect them trees or self, considering 90ish % of the Shroomin is alive and well underground w the tree roots in their symbiotic relationship....
200$ per kg here in ireland bearly anyone picks them if you know a good spot you could come back with a solid 4 kg in one forage.
in the USA you barely find one
@@cornerstoneroofing243 I was eating them in Sierra along JMT for the last 3 weeks
There is a lot in Serbia. In season price is 5€/kg and drops to 2,5€ in autumn.
Can't you just cut a piece off the bottom and put in an agar dish
yeah i wish. But if it was possible, the price would not be that high. And I agree so much, toxic shit we put out, bad farming, constant making of more babies and more houses, it's all so sad when we have the chance to live another way, be more in relationship with nature, all we can do now is complain to our leaders and lead with example.
The problem is she is trying to grow the mushroom from spores and its not going to work. I you want to grow these mushrooms its easier grown from mycelium, that can be homemade in used coffee grounds, its also a bad idea to use an old mushroom when you can just take some of the mycelium from the stem and eat the rest. It one of the hardest to grow and I suggests starting with oyster mushrooms.
You can not grow mycorrhizal porcini mushrooms at home. Plain and simple. Oyster mushrooms are pleurotus and can be grown at home.
@@Classyflowers Not at home you can spread the mycelium and grow them close to some kind of tree preferably oak. I've done this and it works but you can believe whatever you want. mycorrhizal mushrooms need a relationship with roots of trees, this is hard to perfect and the reason you don't see these types of mushrooms mass produced the effort is not worth the payout. I find it funny how you've made a video and done all this, posting it online but then bash someones comment that had tried to help you. Saying it cannot be done when you've made a video on how to grow them at home. Okay 👍
@@Classyflowers Easiest way I've come across was growing trees from seed in sterile media (usually coir) and introducing mycorrhizal spores onto the roots and hope it takes. Its hard to do but not impossible, although I would clear it up is you need to be in the countryside to work as to plan a sapling and introduce the mycelium, the watering your tress with sugar and mushroom water you do will do absolutely nothing. But hey hate on a viewer of yours for no reason I'm sure that will make the channel grow. Also I'm done watching your videos.
@@lawabidingcitizen9696 Are you taking about your own experience ?
@@Classyflowers Yes. I've grown my own mycelium from wild mushrooms and I've mixed it up in the soil and grown at the same time with a few saplings. It works but the effort is not the payout because its might not grow one year but will grow like a few every year. Then there are spots that just stopped fruiting altogether. If you actually want to try this grow it with a few trees and from mycelium not from spores.
they have always taught me that when you pick mushrooms you must completely detach the stem avoiding leaving part of the stem on the ground which rots and hinders the formation of new mushrooms in this video I always see the stem cut. Why?
You cut the mushroom not to disturb the mycelium below. Mushroom rotting does no harm to the fungus, they are primarily only formed by mycelium to produce spores and then rot anyways, so if there were no humans to pick them, almost every mushroom would get eaten by snails, worms, larvae... and eventually "rot" :)
amanita muscaria is not poisonous.
It’s hallucinating
No i did it to
Спасибо!
what you did will save us. Humanity needs to remember what is lost in oblivion.
Not complete. Lots of information left out.
sooooo anything happened this fall yet ? eheheh
Zero, as expected
third party is certain microorganisms that must be present too.
@Joe Edward thanks, will do! :)
It's almost a good video but why don't you report on the results? You say confidently that it wont work, but you never return to show us what happened. I learned some stuff about mushrooms though, so thank you.
do not cut mushrooms like that.
We lose our natural connectivity and respect to nature, instead we growing love to concrete, technology, artificial food in fast cities and money
More condos less trees
Nothing gay about that.
You: lots of people who dont know what they talk about poststuff on websites
Also you: Has no idea what you talking about 😂
This never would have worked
Too much effort in order to replicate a growing method you don't believe :)
It has nothing to do with my belief, it is a science.
Did you follow instructions that were meant as a joke to mess with people Smh
Of course, I do not believe this for a second, because I know it is a hoax.
Some good info and some other bad info meh a little blind sighted
It is called - sarcasm.
Ok everything you did in this video was wrong for growing mushrooms... It's easy to grow mushrooms... But it's all about sterilization.. spores are delicate and can be contaminated easy. Just by touching them... You need to remove a mushroom cap without touching the bottom.. press it to a sterile paper for a spore print. Them you need to put it in a clean sterile jar with the right substrate (all mushrooms are different)... But mashing them with your hands and dumping them in the back yard will pretty much guarantee you won't grow mushrooms... Get a humidifier and mushroom grow box kid... Good luck and good video.
It will not work with Porcini. Mutual relationships with trees is why.
A sterile environment is only needed if you are growing indoors in a controlled environment like a tub. Otherwise how do you think any mushrooms would grow on the ground in nature? Do you think the ground is sterile? Of course not. I have made similar slurries from fresh mushrooms and inoculated outdoor patches with success.
@@marcelhoogstadhay1047 Again, it cannot work with porcini, as it is not a parasitic mushroom like most, it forms a mutual association with host trees. They exchange minerals and water in exchange for sugars and other substances.
Sam's right. It's a parasitic mushroom so it need a certain tree. And I'm not saying you CANT grow mushrooms without sterilization I'm just saying you'll have better success... Natural corn was the size of weat til people got a hold of it... People can help a situation believe it or not..
@@charlesttent8972 Well its not truly parasitic, more mutually beneficial (Mycorrhiza). It gives the tree nutrients in exchange for sugar. Parasitic mushrooms are you classic shop mushrooms, which grow on dead wood or effectively kill its host. Porcini is Mycorrhizial, meaning you cant grow it without a host tree - as it needs the living tree to survive.
A resounding NO. I will grow these mushrooms one way or another. Nice vid tho
Good luck!
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@@JohnWest4 it says "are you cabbage"
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