Nider's way of deflecting is just so authoritarian. "Davros says there is no other intelligent life on other planets, and he is never wrong so you are lying" and "your views are un important" It's just so cold and unquestioning. He's basically already a Dalek. Forget the mutations.
I found the original origins of Dalek better fit the story. The Thals vs Kelads from the nuclear they Kelads turns into mutations and to survive they made suit Armour Suits for themselves.
@@sanitizerwilson1599 That's exactly what happens in Genesis of The Daleks...The Thals and Kaleds have a nuclear war. Both sides are being mutated, Davros' mutation is accelerated by an accident which leads him to create a life support system. He then experiments with their final form after mutating and bases their machine after his own chariot. The Kaleds then mass produce Daleks and eventually they themselves become mutants.
Actually quite a few fans were annoyed as Genesis contradicts so much that had been established about Dalek history at that point. For instance, the _Dals_ were a peaceful race attacked by the Thals without reason or warning, in a war that lasted a matter of minutes.
I just watched this episode in my and my dad's classic Doctor Who binge. Davros was really peak mad scientist right from the beginning and it's awesome.
@@katnisseverdeen6141 This is a promotion for the Doctor Who The Collection season 12 (UK release). They are slowly coming out with all classic series newly restored. But they have had the DVD's of these series out for quite a while too. (individual stories, not complete seasons like this set) But the Blu Ray re-releases of the collection has a number of extras and the HD quality of the re-transfers from video and film look quite good. Also if you are in North America it will be called, Doctor Who: Tom Baker Complete First Season.
I remember in journeys end when Davros recognises Sarah Jane, “that face after all these years” I loved how it called back to this episode 30+ years later, also notice how Sarah was effectively the first character to meet him, even before the doctor
I imagine she definitely remembers Davros putting her in a torture chair to make the Doctor tell Davros the failures the Daleks will have in the future.
Michael Wisher WAS Davros. Peter Myles WAS Nyder! They couldn't have chosen any better actors to play those two. My favorite DW story of all time and IMO the best acted of all time. A Legendary Classic!
He certainly behaved like a Dalek, cold and ruthless but efficient. I suspect that Davros used some of Nyder's genes to create the Daleks as Nyder had a certain ideal Nazi edge to him.
I have watched this story countless times as it’s the best fourth doctor story imo and I can’t believe I’ve only just noticed that the dalek doesn’t have the manipulator arm. I think it’s either because of the darkness of the scene or the fact that it’s a blink and you’ll miss it attention to detail. Michael wishers performance as Davros in this story is absolutely impeccable, he captures the voice of the daleks perfectly through davros, seeing the creator behind the monsters. Best performance of davros easily goes to wisher who is excellent at portraying his sense of cunning, manipulation and deceit. Terry Molloy easily takes the cake for his Shakespearean line delivery and poetic way with his words and Julian bleach knows how to perfectly poke and prod with the Doctors weaknesses. It’s a shame Nider dies in this story as I would have loved to have seen the two together more. This version will forever remain his most iconic appearance. Well done to you Michael wisher xx
Certainly right up there but I do think Philip madoc as the war Lord and Solon is also outstanding. And Roger Delgado made a potentially 2d character feel very real. Given his limitations with the mask and chair, wisher does wonders. Everything came together in this story and it must have been clear to all that Jon pertwee had been succeeded by the right man.
@@KravKernow he was a fine actor but totally wasted in planet of evil, and they should have tried harder to get him back for destiny even if the script was below the original version of davros
fully agree a masterfull performance......... but the actor that playd lynx in the time warrior ran this a close second was also brilliant .....jon pertwee was the doctor
The description of the Mutos was, and still is, so frightening... Big Finish expanded on that horror. Amazing storytelling and fleshing out of the world of Skaro.
no prizes for guessing which regime the Khaleds are based on. You can see the SS from the uniforms , the reuse of bunker even the mini salute. Mutos are a reference to the genetic experiments carried out at Auschwitz
Notice how Davros says the weaponry is perfect. Note the ray effect and the sound it makes. Yet for something so perfect we never see this effect or sound again whenever a Dalek fires in this story after this episode. Also note the effects of the ray leaving the gun is more like those from Destiny onwards. Question then, why did they change it???
I watched this storyline last week, (and 'The Daemons' the week before that), brought back many great childhood memories. You are never too old for some Classic Who ❤
@@xsm5525 Yes,that was when they were shown on BBC2 early on Friday evenings in the early weeks of 1993. I rewatched those too then,having originally seen (nearly all of) those two stories when they were first broadcast in 1971 and 1975. It was actually part of a series leading up to the show's 30th birthday,featuring one story from each of the first seven Doctors. They started it in the earliest weeks of 1992 with William Hartnell in The Time Meddler,Patrick Troughton in The Mind Robber (which has IMO one of the greatest ever cliffhangers at the end of its first episode) and Jon Pertwee in the Sea Devils. Then,in the early weeks of 1993,they showed Jon Pertwee in the Daemons,Tom Baker in Genesis of the Daleks,Peter Davison in The Caves of Androzani,Colin Baker in Revelation of the Daleks and Sylvester McCoy in (not sure which) either Battlefield or Survival.
@@rjjcms1 yep spot on, I can remember it now, I only remember it from the 2nd doctor story Mind robber. the Mccoy one was Battlefield for sure! I think even after the 1993 birthday with 'More than 30 years inside the TARDIS' they did a few others! I remember seeing Planet of the Daleks, Green Death and Pyramids of Mars. I was only about 5 or 6 when those early 90's reruns were going on, I wasn't scared of it much until Caves and Revelation, I could tell straight away at a young age they had really picked up the pace with the fear factor and general creepiness of the show! I don't think my mum enjoyed me watching Caves and Revelation but she was ok with the rest! haha!
@@xsm5525 😂 Thanks - yes I think it must have been Battlefield as I remember it having the Brigadier making a return appearance. I watched the re-run of Planet of the Daleks,including the one episode (3?) that only existed in black and white. That was shown in weekly episodes on some weekday evening from the 50th birthday in November 1993. I was working alternating shifts at a place near Wembley Stadium at the time,so had to record it onto video in the weeks when I was on the later shift. I was 8 - 11 when we (me and my sister) first saw Planet of the Daleks,the Green Death and Pyramids of Mars when they were originally broadcast in 1973 - 75. I started watching it when I was 6,and the first story I saw more or less in full (missed the first bit) was The Daemons. When it came back for a new series and I saw Daleks for the first time at the start of the following year I quickly became hooked. Dr Who was always shown around teatime on BBC1 on Saturdays in the 60s and 70s,after Final Score and the end of Grandstand and the early evening news. I also took to reading the book novelisations of a number of stories that were on the TV series "before my time" in the 60s and first year-and-a-bit of the 70s. I watched it until the autumn of 1977,when other things took over as I became a teenager. Thus Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker were my Doctors.
Peter Miles owned it as Nyder. This was one of three different villainous roles he played in the classic Doctor Who. I also remember him as Secretary Rontane in two episodes of Blake's 7.
Chibnall tries to either mimic the Hinchcliff era or surpass it. But his choices and writing screw him over more than benefit him in some genres. He should’ve stuck with Broadchurch stuff
Same old problem... BBC budget limits... Where have we heard that before ?... " Genesis of the Daleks " is still the best EVER story in the Dr Who universe... ( Considering when it was made and the obvious limits of what the BBC were able to do )
@@TheObsessedWhovian95 Original broadcast date was Saturday 8th March 1975,the first part of a six-part weekly story. BBC1,straight after Final Score and the end of Grandstand,and I think it was after rather than before the early evening news.
I think if there are to be any future appearances of Davros, the actors should watch Micheal Wisher’s performance in this series: restrained yet menacing, enthralling & hypnotic yet despotic & completely insane. He might have been playing the part as Hitler. It was a masterclass only once matched by Terry Molloy. Recently the show has concentrated on making the voice grating and abrasive, by doing so they are missing the point. As Michael Wisher himself once said, “Often, evil speaks quietly.”
I saw him at 14...in 2005 before NuWho. Watching with my (many years in the future) hubby...squeezing his arm and gasping! And then muttering..."coool".
I remember watching this when it first aired. Freaked me right out and to this day it's still disturbing and takes me right back to being 7 or 8 years old, sitting on the carpet focused intently.
Yes, amazing story, the best ever story of Dr Who... I also recall, in the first episode, at the very start, the scene of first world war soldiers wearing gas masks, getting mown down by machine guns, probably should have warned us all what was to come...
The _BEST_ Davros, in the _BEST_ Dalek story out of the whole series. Thank you, Michael Wisher. Thank you, Terry Nation. Seeing it for the first time in 1977 at 11 years of age, this story didn't much jump out at me. But, seeing it today, I think _WOW!_ If not just the underlying story, what really adds to it is that all the characters are just so wonderfully and plausibly casted and played.
There's a very heavy shadow on his mouth here. You can just see a slight movement of his chin in the M in "Exterminate". The other consonants in the command don't require any jaw movement at all. A good one for ventriloquists to incorporate into their acts.
I remember watching Doctor who back in the 70s and 80s when it was still good 👍 and had good storie line's. Oh and let's not forget the brilliant Tom Baker 👏 👌 👍
And we never see that weapon used like that again. I only just noticed how young the General was, and that they all had these slightly German accents. And Sarah Jane..."that face, after all these years."
I've only noticed just now that the Dalek weapon isn't the same there as it was (scarier) when they actually started exterminating with abandon from episode 4 onwards.
@@rjjcms1 Just watched Daleks in Manhatten....they actually were shooting the Hybrids like this...or pretty close to it. I guess maybe they just like the effect of wide exterminating.
It's odd how they changed the weapon effect. It's also interesting that the next episode features no recap so we only see this scene played out as it did at the end of episode 1
@@IAmPegasus My theory is that the weapon has several settings, single shot, multiple shot, and "burn it to the ground" shot, but Daleks, being Daleks basicly said, "F-that. single. shot. function. Doing blanket, every time."
Genesis Of The Daleks was probably the best set of episodes of the classic era of Doctor Who. Everyone knew what a Dalek was but it was this story about their origins that explained their eternal relentless pursuit of Dalek purity. The Classic era used them sparingly and kept them menacing. Nu-Who just seems to use them as an attempt to garner more ratings.
Not that sparingly. They were in all of Hartnell's seasons (twice in the second) including the longest story there's ever been (The Daleks' Masterplan), twice in Troughton's first season, following which Terry Nation withdrew permission to use them as he tried to launch the Daleks in their own series, without success. Following their return to Dr Who in Pertwee's second season (1972) they appeared in four consecutive seasons (this story being the last of those) before a five year gap until 'Destiny' (season 17). Their use from 'Genesis' onwards is a bit more sparing, popping up in seasons 21, 22 and 25 after 'Destiny'. There's also some 'guest appearances' in other stories such as 'The Space Museum', 'The Wheel In Space', 'The Mind Of Evil', and 'The Five Doctors'.
@@richardruff8712 Some might say too much time on your hands! The OP isn't wrong in his last sentence, but classic Who was guilty of it too. NuWho has done similar with the Cybermen and perhaps the Master/Missy also. The Master was definitely overused in his early days, popping up in every story in the first season he appeared in (1971) and more than once in the following season (1972). The tragic death of Roger Delgado makes fans forgive that though. John Nathan-Turner also overused the Master, who appears in almost every (if not every) season since his definitive return in season 18 (following the one time appearance in The Deadly Assassin in season 14), more than once occasionally.
@@ShanghaiRooster I certainly agree about the Cybermen... IMO they have gradually turned the Cybermen into Robocops !... I still think that the early version of the Cybermen were much more scary, and I found it really scary that, when they spoke, the mouths opened and closed, but not in sequence with the spoken words... Sometimes basic is better than high tech !... My favorite story is " Genesis of the Daleks " and second favorite story is the Cybermen attacking Moonbase... Very good, considering when it was made..
Not sure if that is totally correct... The desire of the Kaleds was ONLY to win the 1000 year war against the Thals... But the Kaleds discovered that, any of their people that survived, would turn into the octopus creatures eventually... So Davros designed the Mark III travel vehicle, to allow the octopus creatures to survive, and protect themselves with very advanced laser weapons... It was only later, that Davros wanted the Daleks to become the dominant species in the SEVEN known galaxies...
Love how this era of the show used the _’Monty Python’_ style of production, that is shot on film when outdoors but directly on videotape when in the studio..
Yes... Remarkable how the surface of Skaro looks very similar to a quarry here on Earth... And, at the start of Episode 1, the soldiers looked almost like First World War soldiers being mown down in machine gun fire... That scene really gave us a clue about what was to come...
@@zacmumblethunder7466 YES.. I thought that was the case, maybe we are both wrong... Maybe there was a cctv camera in the corridors, which allowed Davros to see the Doctor and companions...
Michael Wisher's Davros will always be my favourite. While Terry Molloy and Julian Bleach did really good takes on the character (sorry David Gooderson), I really like how Wisher played him. Later interpretations have him as calm, conniving and calculating, largely because he had to rely on wit alone to achieve his ends, as the Daleks only kept him around when he was useful, except for the Imperial Daleks. But I like how Wisher's Davros was snappy and quick to anger, and prone to tantrums, a sort of arrogant genius who's used to getting his way, a bit like Luke Rattigan in the Sontaran Stratagem. Molloy and Bleach's takes had given him a sense of patience, but I like how Wisher's was so willful that he couldn't wait even two minutes, his impatience gave voice to just how forceful his will was.
Yes, agreed... But consider this... If all Dr Who stories were about battles with the Daleks, then even they would become predictable and boring... I think it is the fact that, generally, we only get the occasional visit of the Daleks, which makes them so good and great entertainment...
@@richardruff8712 The Daleks are not what make the story so good. There are better Dalek stories out there, especially in the Troughton era. In fact, the Daleks are really only minor characters in GOTD. As a "Dalek" story it does not rank as the best, but as an overall DW story it is at the top of the list. The writing, the acting, the drama and the intensity are what make GOTD the best Who story ever!
This is my favourite dr who story of all time. Yet so far no reactors have done it yet. The conversation that happens later on between the Dr and Davros isntv gold
To me Dr Who has always been a little bit silly, but watching these clips of Davros and the Daleks coming to being, these episodes had a lot of weight to them. Even the Doctor isn't joking or laughing as much. All the acting, the things that Davros has his minions do, the way they turn on him... scenes like this are why Doctor Who has been going on for decades.
Yes, even the Doctor was stunned at the appearance of the baby mutant Kaleds in the Incubation room... What an amazing story was ' Genesis of the Daleks '...
RUclips has become perfect for ALL those TV programmes, which we all loved, back in the 60's, 70's, 80's etc.. It is nice to know that there are SOME good things about modern technology...
Harriet Philpin appears in this story. She went on to play Alta 2 in the Blake's 7 episode Redemption which is the sequel to the episode Orac. Guy Siner from Allo Allo is also in this. In one of the novels, Davros gets disintegrated.
During the Thal and Kaled war, how could Nyder or anyone on Skaro know what the name human is? Before they were converted into Daleks and adancing thier technology, they didn't develop space travel yet seeing as both side were focused on killing each other.
I always thought he should have been a one off character. The Daleks effectively became his robot army. Also, the mask was never as good again. The "Melted Ena Sharples' Waxwork" look was always difficult not to laugh at.
Okay, BBC, you won. Time to break out the DVD and watch this again. It's been too long! Back when I first realized Doctor Who could get really grim, and Tom Baker was the best at being grim ...
This story was unrelentingly dark and grim,which is why I think they put the scene with Harry and the giant clam in mid-way through episode 3,as a moment of comic relief to break up the relentless grimness briefly.
Yes, amazing story, the best ever story of Dr Who... I also recall, in the first episode, at the very start, the scene of first world war soldiers wearing gas masks, getting mown down by machine guns, probably should have warned us all what was to come...
Has anyone noticed that pendant on Nyders color/neck? Resembles a certain logo that the Nazi's wore in WW2. Further confirming that the Kaleds/Daleks were very much like the Nazis in the Doctor Who universe lol
It's the most iconic colour story in many ways but I do actually prefer the small stakes ark in space as its ending is so much clearer. The final speech by the doctor and sarah almost makes the whole adventure feel a bit indifferent, and the time ring effect is a bir cheesy.
Many people think that " Genesis of the Daleks " is the best EVER story of Dr Who... I think that the 2nd best story was the Cybermen attacking the Moonbase.. Good old black & white...
Nider's way of deflecting is just so authoritarian. "Davros says there is no other intelligent life on other planets, and he is never wrong so you are lying" and "your views are un important"
It's just so cold and unquestioning. He's basically already a Dalek. Forget the mutations.
I found the original origins of Dalek better fit the story. The Thals vs Kelads from the nuclear they Kelads turns into mutations and to survive they made suit Armour Suits for themselves.
That actor did a great job with the Nyder character.
@@sanitizerwilson1599 That's exactly what happens in Genesis of The Daleks...The Thals and Kaleds have a nuclear war. Both sides are being mutated, Davros' mutation is accelerated by an accident which leads him to create a life support system. He then experiments with their final form after mutating and bases their machine after his own chariot. The Kaleds then mass produce Daleks and eventually they themselves become mutants.
Nyder is like Heinrich Himmler.
The Kaleds are facists
Such a phenomenal scene. Seeing the Daleks’ creator and their origins for the first time must have been mind blowing for fans back in 1975!
Such a phenomenal story
Actually quite a few fans were annoyed as Genesis contradicts so much that had been established about Dalek history at that point. For instance, the _Dals_ were a peaceful race attacked by the Thals without reason or warning, in a war that lasted a matter of minutes.
It really was ..even as a child I knew this story was fantastic ...it has everything ...
It was remarkable
It was. I was there!
I just watched this episode in my and my dad's classic Doctor Who binge. Davros was really peak mad scientist right from the beginning and it's awesome.
Is there doctor who classic dvds ? If so where can i get it?
@@katnisseverdeen6141 you could probably buy them online or just watch them online (not recommended)
@@katnisseverdeen6141 Amazon still have quite a lot, and often at a good price.
@@katnisseverdeen6141 This is a promotion for the Doctor Who The Collection season 12 (UK release). They are slowly coming out with all classic series newly restored. But they have had the DVD's of these series out for quite a while too. (individual stories, not complete seasons like this set) But the Blu Ray re-releases of the collection has a number of extras and the HD quality of the re-transfers from video and film look quite good. Also if you are in North America it will be called, Doctor Who: Tom Baker Complete First Season.
It was. :)
I remember in journeys end when Davros recognises Sarah Jane, “that face after all these years” I loved how it called back to this episode 30+ years later, also notice how Sarah was effectively the first character to meet him, even before the doctor
That scene in journeys end made me tear full ..she was the first to see him ..
I imagine she definitely remembers Davros putting her in a torture chair to make the Doctor tell Davros the failures the Daleks will have in the future.
“You were there on Skaro at the beginning of my creation.”
I think Davros said... " Ahhh, Miss Smith... "
Davros: "This is a moment that will live in history." He had no idea how right he was.
Not that his own creations would become even more racist and merciless than him. That he would fall to their wrath.
Those dark grey Daleks had something about them that made them extra intimidating, best Dalek episode Dr Who has had IMO
Very sinister. Nyder was too.
Audi Dalek
Like an Nazi tank without camo paint. It doesn't need to be flashy, it's an instrument of mass death.
Many people consider " Genesis of the Daleks " to be the best EVER story of Dr Who.. And Tom Baker's finest performance..
The Daleks should return to a more sombre dark look
I'm tired of the bronze Time War Daleks
Michael Wisher WAS Davros. Peter Myles WAS Nyder! They couldn't have chosen any better actors to play those two. My favorite DW story of all time and IMO the best acted of all time. A Legendary Classic!
Nyder even speaks with a similar cadence to a Dalek!!
He certainly behaved like a Dalek, cold and ruthless but efficient. I suspect that Davros used some of Nyder's genes to create the Daleks as Nyder had a certain ideal Nazi edge to him.
Best doctor who story ever. Shame we didn't see LT gruber's little tank in this story
He still can't get a break from the Gestapo.
My God Gruber looks so evil, but still very camp !
What a perfect way to debut one of the most significant villains into the Doctor Who canon. Simply chilling! 🥶
Wonderful performance by the late Michael Wisher. Davros first scene he is calm and calculated, then he really does become unhinged.
He’s my favorite Davros. Just the cold whisper he adds until he escalates into the diatribe of a dalek. So good.
Tom Baker- my favourite iteration of the Dr. Such manic screen presence. Excellent actor
I have watched this story countless times as it’s the best fourth doctor story imo and I can’t believe I’ve only just noticed that the dalek doesn’t have the manipulator arm. I think it’s either because of the darkness of the scene or the fact that it’s a blink and you’ll miss it attention to detail. Michael wishers performance as Davros in this story is absolutely impeccable, he captures the voice of the daleks perfectly through davros, seeing the creator behind the monsters. Best performance of davros easily goes to wisher who is excellent at portraying his sense of cunning, manipulation and deceit. Terry Molloy easily takes the cake for his Shakespearean line delivery and poetic way with his words and Julian bleach knows how to perfectly poke and prod with the Doctors weaknesses. It’s a shame Nider dies in this story as I would have loved to have seen the two together more. This version will forever remain his most iconic appearance. Well done to you Michael wisher xx
What about David Gooderson?
Peter Miles was exceptionally good in this story.
5 star story right here!
Out of 10...
11
no
Still scares the crap out of me.
Best Dalek story ever, one of the greatest serials ever!
Just love the iconic debut of the creator of the Daleks. Full of suspense, it perfectly sets up the whole story.
The Daleks never scared me as a child but Davros scared the Dickens out of me.
Genuinely great villain.
Michael Wisher as Davros is the greatest performance in all of classic Who. Such an amazing and layered performance.
Certainly right up there but I do think Philip madoc as the war Lord and Solon is also outstanding. And Roger Delgado made a potentially 2d character feel very real. Given his limitations with the mask and chair, wisher does wonders. Everything came together in this story and it must have been clear to all that Jon pertwee had been succeeded by the right man.
@@martinhudecek8886 I believe he prepared for the Davros role by doing all the rehearsals with a paper bag over his head.
@@KravKernow he was a fine actor but totally wasted in planet of evil, and they should have tried harder to get him back for destiny even if the script was below the original version of davros
fully agree a masterfull performance......... but the actor that playd lynx in the time warrior ran this a close second was also brilliant .....jon pertwee was the doctor
Lieutenant Gruber rode around in his little tank even then.
The description of the Mutos was, and still is, so frightening... Big Finish expanded on that horror. Amazing storytelling and fleshing out of the world of Skaro.
no prizes for guessing which regime the Khaleds are based on. You can see the SS from the uniforms , the reuse of bunker even the mini salute. Mutos are a reference to the genetic experiments carried out at Auschwitz
What big finish story was that?
@@darthbradmedia8929 ‘I, Davros’
The way Tom reads the thing at the end is so him. It’s great
Notice how Davros says the weaponry is perfect. Note the ray effect and the sound it makes. Yet for something so perfect we never see this effect or sound again whenever a Dalek fires in this story after this episode.
Also note the effects of the ray leaving the gun is more like those from Destiny onwards.
Question then, why did they change it???
Probably because they came to edit the Ronson extermination scene and thought, “oh, yea, this will look lame!”
I watched this storyline last week, (and 'The Daemons' the week before that), brought back many great childhood memories. You are never too old for some Classic Who ❤
funny you mention in that order, as in the early-mid 1990s, I can remember the BBC did a few re-runs and they put on The Daemons, and then Genesis.
@@xsm5525 Yes,that was when they were shown on BBC2 early on Friday evenings in the early weeks of 1993. I rewatched those too then,having originally seen (nearly all of) those two stories when they were first broadcast in 1971 and 1975. It was actually part of a series leading up to the show's 30th birthday,featuring one story from each of the first seven Doctors. They started it in the earliest weeks of 1992 with William Hartnell in The Time Meddler,Patrick Troughton in The Mind Robber (which has IMO one of the greatest ever cliffhangers at the end of its first episode) and Jon Pertwee in the Sea Devils. Then,in the early weeks of 1993,they showed Jon Pertwee in the Daemons,Tom Baker in Genesis of the Daleks,Peter Davison in The Caves of Androzani,Colin Baker in Revelation of the Daleks and Sylvester McCoy in (not sure which) either Battlefield or Survival.
@@rjjcms1 yep spot on, I can remember it now, I only remember it from the 2nd doctor story Mind robber. the Mccoy one was Battlefield for sure!
I think even after the 1993 birthday with 'More than 30 years inside the TARDIS' they did a few others! I remember seeing Planet of the Daleks, Green Death and Pyramids of Mars.
I was only about 5 or 6 when those early 90's reruns were going on, I wasn't scared of it much until Caves and Revelation, I could tell straight away at a young age they had really picked up the pace with the fear factor and general creepiness of the show! I don't think my mum enjoyed me watching Caves and Revelation but she was ok with the rest! haha!
@@xsm5525 😂 Thanks - yes I think it must have been Battlefield as I remember it having the Brigadier making a return appearance. I watched the re-run of Planet of the Daleks,including the one episode (3?) that only existed in black and white. That was shown in weekly episodes on some weekday evening from the 50th birthday in November 1993. I was working alternating shifts at a place near Wembley Stadium at the time,so had to record it onto video in the weeks when I was on the later shift. I was 8 - 11 when we (me and my sister) first saw Planet of the Daleks,the Green Death and Pyramids of Mars when they were originally broadcast in 1973 - 75. I started watching it when I was 6,and the first story I saw more or less in full (missed the first bit) was The Daemons. When it came back for a new series and I saw Daleks for the first time at the start of the following year I quickly became hooked. Dr Who was always shown around teatime on BBC1 on Saturdays in the 60s and 70s,after Final Score and the end of Grandstand and the early evening news. I also took to reading the book novelisations of a number of stories that were on the TV series "before my time" in the 60s and first year-and-a-bit of the 70s. I watched it until the autumn of 1977,when other things took over as I became a teenager. Thus Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker were my Doctors.
Peter Miles owned it as Nyder. This was one of three different villainous roles he played in the classic Doctor Who. I also remember him as Secretary Rontane in two episodes of Blake's 7.
Lieutenant Gruber would never give up his little tank!
And he looks like such a nice chap. Goes to show you never can tell.
This was a real hide-behind-the-cushions moment as a kid!
The General will get his little tank eventually.
Absolute TV sci-fi gold. Will never be bettered. I cry when I see the state of Doctor Who today.
Indeed. The Philip Hinchcliffe era was quite a pinnacle for Doctor Who which was when I started watching it as a kid.
Chibnall tries to either mimic the Hinchcliff era or surpass it. But his choices and writing screw him over more than benefit him in some genres. He should’ve stuck with Broadchurch stuff
Same old problem... BBC budget limits... Where have we heard that before ?... " Genesis of the Daleks " is still the best EVER story in the Dr Who universe... ( Considering when it was made and the obvious limits of what the BBC were able to do )
I was born in July 1974, as a kid I wasn’t scared of the Daleks anywhere near as much I was of Davros.
Iconic, I remember seeing Davros on this one for the first time, I know I was young, be nice to know the year
It was 1975 :)
@@TheObsessedWhovian95 Original broadcast date was Saturday 8th March 1975,the first part of a six-part weekly story. BBC1,straight after Final Score and the end of Grandstand,and I think it was after rather than before the early evening news.
I think if there are to be any future appearances of Davros, the actors should watch Micheal Wisher’s performance in this series: restrained yet menacing, enthralling & hypnotic yet despotic & completely insane. He might have been playing the part as Hitler. It was a masterclass only once matched by Terry Molloy. Recently the show has concentrated on making the voice grating and abrasive, by doing so they are missing the point. As Michael Wisher himself once said, “Often, evil speaks quietly.”
Never noticed how nider has an iron cross. They really weren’t hiding the N@zi parallels
It's been decades since I last saw this - I'd forgotten how thoroughly unsubtle the Nazi references were.
Probably something they found in the BBC Costume department.
And yet some people still insist the “wokeness” only started in 2018! 🤷♂️
@@DrWhoFanJ what's more messed up is that portraying Nazis as the bad guys is seen as "woke"
The Nazi parallels started with the Daleks in 1963.
Davros was an amazing character. I was totally freaked out watching this as a kid. Can't believe it is 47 years ago.
I saw him at 14...in 2005 before NuWho. Watching with my (many years in the future) hubby...squeezing his arm and gasping! And then muttering..."coool".
Davros, like the story he debuted in, is simply iconic 😊
The Daleks are Davros's "little tanks".
Ah, just realised the Guy Siner reference, very good!
The ultimate personal Panzer!
I remember watching this when it first aired. Freaked me right out and to this day it's still disturbing and takes me right back to being 7 or 8 years old, sitting on the carpet focused intently.
I was 10 by then but I found episodes 4 and 6 of this 6-part story genuine back-of-the-sofa material.
Yes, amazing story, the best ever story of Dr Who... I also recall, in the first episode, at the very start, the scene of first world war soldiers wearing gas masks, getting mown down by machine guns, probably should have warned us all what was to come...
The _BEST_ Davros, in the _BEST_ Dalek story out of the whole series. Thank you, Michael Wisher. Thank you, Terry Nation.
Seeing it for the first time in 1977 at 11 years of age, this story didn't much jump out at me. But, seeing it today, I think _WOW!_
If not just the underlying story, what really adds to it is that all the characters are just so wonderfully and plausibly casted and played.
Thank you Robert Holmes for actually writing it.
The Dalek not speaking makes it more creepy. Love it!
It doesn't speak because there's no Dalek inside - it's just a test of the prototype transport/weapon system under Davros' remote control........
@@djauto5548 Still creepy imagery without the Dalek speaking though.
@@djauto5548 which is even creepier. An automatic killing machine.
@@chockergram Which means Dr Who got there before the Terminator!
No there is something inside it. The Emperor Dalek waiting to pounce. Davros just hadn't given over total control.
Tom Baker is the classic doctor!!
Davros' mouth doesn't even move when he says 'Now, exterminate' lol
It was still 2 years previous to Star Wars changing everything.
There's a very heavy shadow on his mouth here. You can just see a slight movement of his chin in the M in "Exterminate". The other consonants in the command don't require any jaw movement at all. A good one for ventriloquists to incorporate into their acts.
The Doctor was sent to Scaro by a covert branch of the Timelords known as the C.I.A.
the Celestial Intervention Agency.
Surely that would've been 'The Division'?
@@djauto5548 Different organizations
Bril! Was scared watching this as a kid, it still has that suspense!. Classic Dr Who.
Davros is very intimidating and his voice is so badass
Brilliant scene!
Guy Siner really did have the camp nazi scene all sewn up back in day.
Funny thing is, if I were to picture a Nazi, in my head, his image would come up.
I remember watching Doctor who back in the 70s and 80s when it was still good 👍 and had good storie line's. Oh and let's not forget the brilliant Tom Baker 👏 👌 👍
People give kudos to Michael Wisher, and quite rightly so, but Peter Miles is equally as great.
So Gruber got promoted to general, eh?
Undoubtedly peak Dr Who. Can't get this anywhere.
General Raven later appeared in 'Allo Allo'
Lieutenant Gruber in the background.
And we never see that weapon used like that again. I only just noticed how young the General was, and that they all had these slightly German accents. And Sarah Jane..."that face, after all these years."
I've only noticed just now that the Dalek weapon isn't the same there as it was (scarier) when they actually started exterminating with abandon from episode 4 onwards.
@@rjjcms1 Just watched Daleks in Manhatten....they actually were shooting the Hybrids like this...or pretty close to it. I guess maybe they just like the effect of wide exterminating.
It's odd how they changed the weapon effect.
It's also interesting that the next episode features no recap so we only see this scene played out as it did at the end of episode 1
@@IAmPegasus My theory is that the weapon has several settings, single shot, multiple shot, and "burn it to the ground" shot, but Daleks, being Daleks basicly said, "F-that. single. shot. function. Doing blanket, every time."
sarah jane the first human to lay her eyes on davros.................. brilliant actress liz sladen
This is the best story ever from Dr Who, watching it never gets old.
Agreed... Best ever story, best Dr Who, best Davros, etc....
Tom Baker is my favorite Doctor, and Sarah Jane is my favorite companion.
I guess I’m not the only one who says that.
No you arent! Baker was my first Doctor! And he was the most popular until Tennant surpassed him!
Nope. Tom Baker was my first and my favorite! Genesis of the Daleks is my fav story of the 4th Doctor and of all time.
This was a textbook case of "like father like son".
Genesis Of The Daleks was probably the best set of episodes of the classic era of Doctor Who. Everyone knew what a Dalek was but it was this story about their origins that explained their eternal relentless pursuit of Dalek purity. The Classic era used them sparingly and kept them menacing. Nu-Who just seems to use them as an attempt to garner more ratings.
Not that sparingly. They were in all of Hartnell's seasons (twice in the second) including the longest story there's ever been (The Daleks' Masterplan), twice in Troughton's first season, following which Terry Nation withdrew permission to use them as he tried to launch the Daleks in their own series, without success. Following their return to Dr Who in Pertwee's second season (1972) they appeared in four consecutive seasons (this story being the last of those) before a five year gap until 'Destiny' (season 17). Their use from 'Genesis' onwards is a bit more sparing, popping up in seasons 21, 22 and 25 after 'Destiny'. There's also some 'guest appearances' in other stories such as 'The Space Museum', 'The Wheel In Space', 'The Mind Of Evil', and 'The Five Doctors'.
@@ShanghaiRooster Well, you've done your homework !
@@richardruff8712 Some might say too much time on your hands! The OP isn't wrong in his last sentence, but classic Who was guilty of it too. NuWho has done similar with the Cybermen and perhaps the Master/Missy also. The Master was definitely overused in his early days, popping up in every story in the first season he appeared in (1971) and more than once in the following season (1972). The tragic death of Roger Delgado makes fans forgive that though. John Nathan-Turner also overused the Master, who appears in almost every (if not every) season since his definitive return in season 18 (following the one time appearance in The Deadly Assassin in season 14), more than once occasionally.
@@ShanghaiRooster I certainly agree about the Cybermen... IMO they have gradually turned the Cybermen into Robocops !... I still think that the early version of the Cybermen were much more scary, and I found it really scary that, when they spoke, the mouths opened and closed, but not in sequence with the spoken words... Sometimes basic is better than high tech !... My favorite story is " Genesis of the Daleks " and second favorite story is the Cybermen attacking Moonbase... Very good, considering when it was made..
@@richardruff8712 The Cybermen are like wind up toys.
The obsessions of the Kaleds lived on in the Daleks, creepy. 😱
Not sure if that is totally correct... The desire of the Kaleds was ONLY to win the 1000 year war against the Thals... But the Kaleds discovered that, any of their people that survived, would turn into the octopus creatures eventually... So Davros designed the Mark III travel vehicle, to allow the octopus creatures to survive, and protect themselves with very advanced laser weapons... It was only later, that Davros wanted the Daleks to become the dominant species in the SEVEN known galaxies...
I miss real Doctor Who. It's been so long and we may never see it again.
Love how this era of the show used the _’Monty Python’_ style of production, that is shot on film when outdoors but directly on videotape when in the studio..
Yes... Remarkable how the surface of Skaro looks very similar to a quarry here on Earth... And, at the start of Episode 1, the soldiers looked almost like First World War soldiers being mown down in machine gun fire... That scene really gave us a clue about what was to come...
2:56 Dj Davros' in the house!!
Lieutenant Gruber! Demoted from a Kaled General!!
General Raven would have sent Lieutenant Grüber to the camps.
@@gentblue The operative word being 'camp' 👍👍
01:43
René!
In the early days the only thing that could defeat the Darleks was a stair case!
1975 - The budget was so low that the scenery moved when touched. Such a shame.
Yes, absolutely... But that was part of the joy that we all had, the wobbly walls were so... 60's British TV.. at its best...
Thus, Sarah Jane’s conversation with Davros in The Stolen Earth/ Journey’s End makes a lot more literal sense.
Except that he never actually saw her.
@@zacmumblethunder7466 YES.. I thought that was the case, maybe we are both wrong... Maybe there was a cctv camera in the corridors, which allowed Davros to see the Doctor and companions...
New Who is crap. Don't try to compare it to Classic Who.
"Perfect. The weaponry is perfect. Now we can begin" Rather a chilling speech from Davros!
Michael Wisher's Davros will always be my favourite. While Terry Molloy and Julian Bleach did really good takes on the character (sorry David Gooderson), I really like how Wisher played him.
Later interpretations have him as calm, conniving and calculating, largely because he had to rely on wit alone to achieve his ends, as the Daleks only kept him around when he was useful, except for the Imperial Daleks.
But I like how Wisher's Davros was snappy and quick to anger, and prone to tantrums, a sort of arrogant genius who's used to getting his way, a bit like Luke Rattigan in the Sontaran Stratagem. Molloy and Bleach's takes had given him a sense of patience, but I like how Wisher's was so willful that he couldn't wait even two minutes, his impatience gave voice to just how forceful his will was.
Perfect …. the scripts, the casting …. is perfect.
Careful. You'll give yourself a nosebleed. :P
Fantastic. Probably the best DW story ever. Why weren't all Who stories this good?
Yes, agreed... But consider this... If all Dr Who stories were about battles with the Daleks, then even they would become predictable and boring... I think it is the fact that, generally, we only get the occasional visit of the Daleks, which makes them so good and great entertainment...
@@richardruff8712 The Daleks are not what make the story so good. There are better Dalek stories out there, especially in the Troughton era. In fact, the Daleks are really only minor characters in GOTD. As a "Dalek" story it does not rank as the best, but as an overall DW story it is at the top of the list. The writing, the acting, the drama and the intensity are what make GOTD the best Who story ever!
@@alexianemp Who can forget the star of the show... the giant Clam !!!
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Tom Baker wasn't playing a character in Dr Who. He was just being himself. And he made us love every unpredictable moment of it😏😁
The direction and lighting of Davros' first scene is just perfect.
It made Davros and those Daleks all the more sinister throughout.
Such an iconic villain a master class in design
This is my favourite dr who story of all time. Yet so far no reactors have done it yet. The conversation that happens later on between the Dr and Davros isntv gold
The General - Gruber from Allo Allo? Viz his lil’ tank?
You cant do that. People with disabilities can never be evil, didn't you know! lol
This is still my all time fav Dr Who episode, it just has everything 😎
Isn't that the bloke from Allo Allo?
To me Dr Who has always been a little bit silly, but watching these clips of Davros and the Daleks coming to being, these episodes had a lot of weight to them. Even the Doctor isn't joking or laughing as much. All the acting, the things that Davros has his minions do, the way they turn on him... scenes like this are why Doctor Who has been going on for decades.
Yes, even the Doctor was stunned at the appearance of the baby mutant Kaleds in the Incubation room... What an amazing story was ' Genesis of the Daleks '...
Still my all-time favorite.
Thank god for youtube i just love all things Davros and his Daleks
RUclips has become perfect for ALL those TV programmes, which we all loved, back in the 60's, 70's, 80's etc.. It is nice to know that there are SOME good things about modern technology...
Is the general Leftenant Gruber?
Yes it is.
In the next test, the daleks hunt captured mutos.
Golden era of the show
Well one of
Shouldn't the title be (Davros's) first appearance
"YOUR views are NOT important."
Harriet Philpin appears in this story. She went on to play Alta 2 in the Blake's 7 episode Redemption which is the sequel to the episode Orac. Guy Siner from Allo Allo is also in this. In one of the novels, Davros gets disintegrated.
During the Thal and Kaled war, how could Nyder or anyone on Skaro know what the name human is? Before they were converted into Daleks and adancing thier technology, they didn't develop space travel yet seeing as both side were focused on killing each other.
*"Nobody Loves Genesis Of The Daleks More Than Me!"*
Now we can begin..
A great story! Unfortunately, the Dalek stories after this were hit and miss, because Davros had to be included during the rest of the classic run
I always thought he should have been a one off character. The Daleks effectively became his robot army. Also, the mask was never as good again. The "Melted Ena Sharples' Waxwork" look was always difficult not to laugh at.
@@FreeTheDonbas Oh I don’t doubt that. My complaint is that he was used too much in classic Who, after his introduction
@@FreeTheDonbas So out of interest, what do you make of Remembrance which kept him in the shadows for most of the story?
Much as in some ways he should have been a one-off character,at the same time he was far too brilliant a villain to not make more use of!
I'm not even a Doctor Who fan, but Genesis of the Daleks for me is one of the best bits TV ever made.
I love how the darlek's story shows the flaw of the Nazi state of mind and eugenics.
Okay, BBC, you won. Time to break out the DVD and watch this again. It's been too long! Back when I first realized Doctor Who could get really grim, and Tom Baker was the best at being grim ...
This story was unrelentingly dark and grim,which is why I think they put the scene with Harry and the giant clam in mid-way through episode 3,as a moment of comic relief to break up the relentless grimness briefly.
Yes, amazing story, the best ever story of Dr Who... I also recall, in the first episode, at the very start, the scene of first world war soldiers wearing gas masks, getting mown down by machine guns, probably should have warned us all what was to come...
This is my favorite scene from Genesis of the Daleks
Davros,hes so dashing.❤.
Has anyone noticed that pendant on Nyders color/neck? Resembles a certain logo that the Nazi's wore in WW2. Further confirming that the Kaleds/Daleks were very much like the Nazis in the Doctor Who universe lol
Also,a little like the Iron Cross.
Genesis of the Darleks is probably one of the best Doctor Who's ever made.
It's the most iconic colour story in many ways but I do actually prefer the small stakes ark in space as its ending is so much clearer. The final speech by the doctor and sarah almost makes the whole adventure feel a bit indifferent, and the time ring effect is a bir cheesy.
Many people think that " Genesis of the Daleks " is the best EVER story of Dr Who... I think that the 2nd best story was the Cybermen attacking the Moonbase.. Good old black & white...
Now THIS is Dr who!!