I know exactly what this woman felt. I have been there and while she may have tried to take her own life, the incident in the bathtub proves that her husband wanted a new start with the _other_ woman.
Right? I believe they said he went to his car then the neighbors? He had to make sure she was definitely gone before the paramedics came. I'm outraged by the sentence! (Didn't want to spoil the ending in the comment section)
I'm not buying into it. I don't believe the daughter. She seems to be making up stories as time moves on. If he pushed her off the cliff, why would Faylien stay silent about it? It was her first suicide attempt. Very sad story. If Grant is guilty of anything, it would be for not seeking mental health help for her.
My wife was his next door neighbor through middle and high school. He gave her the creeps more times than she can count. Especially after he volunteered for a youth camping trip. I guess he was trying way too hard to impress all these younger girls to like him in the creepiest ways imaginable. My father in law actually went to his house and told him not to ever approach, talk to or even look at his girls.
@@BarnabyBaltimoron _"Everybody declared that he was the wickedest young man in the world; and everybody began to find out that they had always distrusted the appearance of his goodness."_ Jane Austen: _Pride & Prejudice_ 1813. ch.48
All over social media he had posting he’s innocent bragging that poor Faylene’s family lost their civil suit. And how he was framed. He must have a lot of Mormon friends in his community defending his sorry horrible lying crazy personality. They said he liked his young wife because she wore thongs and he is a creepy sex addict. I think he only got 5 years.
"Falls" of a cliff, and months later, she's found unconscious in the tub. The one guy with her both times says to the daughter, "If your mom wakes up, she might say weird things". What a psychopath.
Idk who’s worse. The cheating husband who calls his friend before 911, his crazy sister who believes her brother can do no harm, or the mistress who thinks she won like the lottery or something.
@@bv2745if you want to help the person, you don't call a friend. 911 would have given him instructions on how to potentially safe her since he wasn't a doctor
He’s a great guy he only married his mistress, emotionally and mentally abused his wife, failed to call 911 render cpr, told kid she’s dreaming tried his hand at fake prophecy but great dude. The delusion in this episode is horrific
As a survivor of abuse in the Mormon church I want to thank you for sharing this story. The church has a tight hold on the media in Utah, as well as the law. They do not want bad press. The victims in this case deserve to have this story told. Thank you thank you thank you.
@tootaloobuckaroo You have to admit that this woman was ripe for the looney bin. And her child takes comfort in her mother's nutty writings? Out of their minds.
What about the new wife at the end. I laughed during that press release when she said, "It's easy when you know he's innocent," while shaking her head no. I had to, lol.
@@kentuky1233you are correct when stating, "not everything is narcissism"..I'll give you that. But the word "narcissism" definitely seems to hold water in this scenario as it pertains to the "husband" here. ✅️ Hope you understand. 😊
@@Angelina6518plus the bed would have been sopping wet if he’d of picked her up from out of the tub, but not sopping wet if he simply held her head under. Seems a lot of info was left out.
@@cathyprosser1050I thought that he replied with “I know CPR” when the interviewer asked “you knew CPR?” because he didn’t know it at the time that he killed her, but he learned it just in case he needed to cover up his lie.
@@ITalktoTrees No, but it makes for a safer conviction. Innocent until proven guilty. Better to have the system we have where people are proven guilty on evidence rather than the opinions of youtube commentators.
Did you not hear her own words in her journal? Go to 25:20 and listen to the journal entry. She kind of jumped off a mountain too. Can't forget that part. This woman is not all there...sorry but she isn't.
According to her journal she really was depressed and seemed to have a death wish. Those religions with their loveless doctrines and manmade laws and rules just make people think they're never good enough Nothing of Jesus' great love, forgiveness and mercy there. So tragic
Sometimes the lies seem so obvious. It was difficult to believe Doug. Particularly when his sister came into picture and did not miss a single opportunity to pull the victim through the dirt with the sweetest voice she can offer...😵💫 And his new wife; it is beyond creepy how quick they took off. Not even when hating someone will a morally developed person be emotionally able to re-merry within such a short time. IMHO none of them shows any true feelings, all of them are creepy. That's some horror movie family there.
Is it common there? I know at least 2 Nevaeh’s here in Central Alabama. I think “Heaven” would sound better than it spelled backwards. They do tend to explain the name immediately with introductions. 🤭
I had never heard the name until I petsit a family of dogs, one of them a husky with that name. I've never heard of a person with that name. I always wondered where she got the name, but never asked. I didn't know until I saw this video what it meant.
The new wife "I don't care what people think I am who I am" while looking away from the camera. If you are so proud of yourself held your head up high but maybe she can't because she knows deep down she wrong, fooling around with a married man is nothing to be proud of
Family says “he’s a great man”… A great man doesn’t cheat on his loving beautiful wife! How can the mistress now wife says “she’s the lucky one”??? These people are crazy & it breaks my heart that her daughter will forever live her life without her mom because of her evil step father 😢
i find it odd how she called Faline her friend and talked abt "what she would've wanted" excuse me? are you her family? don't talk abt what she would've wanted
After losing the man i love in a sudden death, i cannot imagine how ANYONE could marry another person a month after a traumatic death like that. It's so wrong.v
Come on, he is not an ugly man. Besides, a woman doesn't feel attracted to a man just because he is physically handsome - what oes that mean, after all?. There are many qualities in a man that can make a woman feel attracted to him. And the other way around is also true.
The local LEOs acted as though they had never investigated a homicide. My Rule #1 in ALL death investigations is "Investigate ALL deaths as a homicide until PROVEN otherwise." The reason being once you've released the scene, the body, the suspect, the witnesses, and the evidence you'll never get them back. I once spent two days at a crime scene (where I also slept) to process it. It turned out the victim had died from an epileptic seizure but I also had a crime scene of a suicide which turned out to be a homicide. Not every death is what it appears to be but only a thorough investigation will find the truth.
As an ex-mormon, there is a direct correlation between the discouragement of divorce and the prevalence of polygamy in the after life. That's just the tip of the iceberg
@thI205 I totally agree with you, you're right i think 🤔 they could start a new genre of Mormon true crimes too, bloody hell there 😳 is more unexpected twists and turns in this Mormon true life crime episode,
@@angiebond5139 dutiful does not mean supporting a murderer or lying. The very word “dutiful” means to do one’s “righteous” duty. Besides that, she is his sister not his wife. She was not born to serve him. One reason we were all born, I am sure, is to serve God, not mammon and certainly not man.
It's difficult to understand this story without in-depth knowledge of the LDS faith. The LDS is a patriarchal system- the man, the husband, is the leader of the family both spiritually and financially. Whatever he told her, she believed. The LDS faith relies on feelings and emotions to instill and encourage belief. If he convinced her that he'd had visions of her death, and of her in the Celestial Kingdom, and that his girlfriend was meant to be his second wife, and her sister wife for eternity, of course she would work to befriend her and make sure that everything was as good as it could be for her children. Also, anyone who has ever attended an LDS meeting has seen first-hand how they're trained from childhood to "turns tears on and off" while bearing their testimony of the truth of the Church. That's all his testimony in court was- a different kind of testament meeting.
@@jillwiegand4257She’s talking about the son.. two different kids . Towards the end of the video he’s at the sentence hearing asking the judge for leniency , but both Braven & Neveah are interesting names to say the least…..
I think the $2 million wrongful death suit was probably the best "justice" the family was ever going to get. Sometimes hurting a person in the pocketbook is the worst that can happen to them.
I am convinced that Faline had some mental issues that needed to be addressed with a professional therapist and Psychiatrist. But having grown up in the Mormon “church”, I can tell you, this level of crazy indoctrination isn’t unusual in that organization. So I can see that the religious fanatic argument as being true.
Yes, but he told her daughter, once they got her heart started, if your mom wakes up she might be saying strange things. I,m thinking she may have said he tried to off her🤷. That's my opinion. Idk
Between the mood swings (extremely happy, hearing voices (God’s in particular) to extremely sad, to the point of being suicidal, it looks like Faline was suffering from Bipolar Disorder
The "Mistress was disgusting and absolute shameless " I wouldn't have anything to do with that type of woman, who new he was married and had children. She, nor he had any moral ethical principles nor true religious values, grotesque.
The fact the average juror doesn't understand their role, scares me. They all admit they don't know what he did (reasonable doubt) then convict him of manslaughter just because they think he did SOMETHING. Not how it's supposed to work.
And sadly he and his children got the jurors and judge to have a lower/lighter sentence. He almost got away with his crime and 5 years is really not enough.
Religion is insanity. It's the politics of spirituality; hence anathema to actual spirituality. All Religion is a mechanical of control. Scripture? From God? Hardly...it's all from man himself, hence flawed
He said, he knew how to do cpr. If he really knew, he would not have to pull her out of the tub and lay her on the bed, instead he had to "cpr" her right then and there on the (hard) bathroom floor. Also the handling of the medication, totally unresponsible. This makes no sense at all. And re-marrying 3 weeks later? What bizarre case from beginning to end.
@@selecttravelvacations7472 thank you for clearing that! English is not my first language and you explained it much better than me 😊 The soft bed/bedding takes much of the needed pressure away. You must be from the medical field also, Greetings from Germany 🐞
Why would you "confront" someone you thought had tried to throw themselves down a mountain. Would they not need love, concern and help? What a weird reaction.
That defense attorney is AWFUL! I would never hire him. Brown-noses the jury and then gets called out and gaslights them "I'm not pandering!!!" Talk about yikes.
He tried killing her on the hike but he failed so he finished her off in the tub. This is the most delusional family ever. Also, was her journal ever verified by a hand-writing expert? Either the husband wrote the journal or forced her to write it. And was there ANY proof that two wives had ever been friends? Any photos together? Text messages or phone calls between them? There's nothing but this alleged journal. Family should file a wrong death civil suit just to stick it to him.
Ooof, I felt that! As a person who used to need, to be needed, I now understand that the unrelenting drive to help was mostly unconscious childhood conditioning. At least that’s how it was for me. It’s not attractive and I’m kinda embarrassed about it now, but I actually did help some people. However, it came at the expense of my health and relationships.
Oh, my gosh. I saw a video on RUclips by a gal who's ex-Mormon, and she talked about this voice among Mormon (and other fundamentalist) women. It's soft, sweet, feminine, subservient, gentle, etc. Good insight!
I took ONE 10mg ambien 5 yrs ago & it knocked me out for 10 hrs! I was 59, have been resistant to medications as long as I can remember, always sleep at most 7 hrs, normally 6. Those are strong sleeping pills, Faylene was knocked out! Seems obvious that he gave her few drinks & the ambien! This is incredibly sad & distressing for her daughter. 🙏❤️
I took an ambien one night at bedtime which for me was 9 pm. My girlfriend had given it to me to sleep. I didn't wake up till the next day at 12. I will never ever take another ambien.
@@lesare6509 again ambien did not do anything for me at all. They are not powerful sleeping pills. I got zero sleep for 2 straight nights while taking 20 mg pills
@@rogerburch69 I believe it Roger, I won’t mess with them either, can’t cuz I take opioids for adv neuropathy pain. Best friends nephew mixed methadone & ambien a month ago, died in his sleep, 28 yrs old. 🥺 He knew better, he had migraines & just wanted relief I think. You take care!🙏🤗
Any person that conducts an interview, manages to eke out a few tears, and DOESN’T wipe away those tears so everyone watching will interpret it as true grief, is ABSOLUTELY guilty! Think about that. When have you ever done that? Isn’t it a natural instinct to immediately wipe them away? He’s putting on a show. Evil!
People, unless they have a heart attack or a full of a specific type of pharmaceutical, such as Zolpidem or Ambien, usually slip and fall in the bathtub or shower.
He conveniently fell asleep - then did not call 911. Also even I know you do CPR on the floor not the bed. Too bad it was instantly ruled as an Accident.
I know this isn't the biggest issue here, but I'm astonished that the PA prescribed ambien plus a muscle relaxer following an injury like this. Both medications cause sedation, and should not be taken together. Muscle relaxers cause so much sedation that they're usually enough to induce sleep on their own. That is terrible medicine.
@@terryKessler42719 Meh... you can future date a prescription. For example, if I was to send both of these scripts, on the Ambien script I'd write "DO NOT FILL before X date"
Him and his bride to be knew his wife was suicidal and instead of getting her help, they would implant more ideas in her head, they should both be in prison
Red flag: someone who believes that, “much more younger,” is proper English. Hahahaha. I’m sorry but she was a legal adult and she made her own decisions. A disparity in age between partners is not indicative of narcissism on the side of the elder. That’s absolutely nonsense.
@@elmokirkwood3969 English is not my first language. But I can explain it to you in other languages if you like. Psychopaths pick partners they can control. It's obvious that this 19-year-old is mostly inexperienced in life and was easy to brainwash.
Your friend/family Dr instructs you to call 📞 911, later you tell him that you had not because you were afraid. 😮 Are you kidding me?!? You are in distress and in need of help, yet you are afraid to call 911?. Boy bye! 👋🏾
When he was asked what he did when he found her, he was looking down and for a split second it looked like he has a smirk on his face then immediately started with the tears . It looked like he was remembering that moment when he smirked. A true narcissist.
What is with these people? Divorces, remarriages, new husbands and wives, kids from this one, kids from that one. I am not against divorce per ce but really these people are so selfish and then off they go to their church all and pretend to be squeaky clean. what messy lives. Poor children how confusing.
The locked door, the fact that he didn’t call 911, and what he said to her daughter…he did it. I don’t understand why he re-married her when he was so in love with someone else. Didn’t want to pay child support? This case has so many crazy people in it, it is hard to know who to believe. And it doesn’t help when the cops lose so much evidence, and don’t process the scene properly.
That is not adequate evidence for a conviction. Many Guilty ppl call 911 after waiting a while ..if you read Faylene's diary , she does talk of her death and suicide...She even leaves instructions for Hillary to take over her place as a mom ...
@@laurastuart3814 the interviews sometimes are from inside the prisons,and sometimes the interviews are after years have gone by and the person completed their sentences. It varies.
I don't believe she wrote those journal entries her daughter read because when they showed the originals the handwriting was different on every one of them. I know from writing in my own journals my handwriting never changed if so very little not as drastic as what I seen on here of hers. Two different cursive styles then all capital letters? Come on, she didn't write those. Yes their feminine but I bet the mistress wrote em after the fact because of what is said especially the last entry her daughter read. So I don't believe a word he says. I believe he drugged her with Ambien & muscle relaxers & when she took her bath that night the amount of Ambien & muscle relaxers he gave her kicked in & she went under. With two medications that relaxes your entire body & one that makes you drowsy well the muscle relaxers can make you drowsy also. No wonder she became unconscious & "drowned". He totally planned this. I also think he beat her up while they were in the mountains & she didn't fall. Just like what was stated she didn't have significant enough injuries for that type of fall from that height. Also his lawyer saying he took her to the hospital after her fall is incorrect it was stated that his doctor friend came over & looked at her & prescribed her the medications. Sorry this was so long but I just had to get all of this off my chest.
Exactly! Why write a prescription for something they have to phone you first before they fill it.And then the husband seems totally unaware he was supposed to phone first. And why a prescription for 2 drugs that would combine so badly, for a friend’s wife . So many bad prescribing choices..That assistant should have his prescribing rights revoked.
I don't know how many other people are aware of what is commonly believed about when an older man dates/marries a much younger woman, but typically its believed that since they have very little in common, or the same interests, or can have the same conversations, etc, the 2 main benefits for the man are of course that she is youthful & attractive, but more importantly, that a younger woman is much easier to manipulate & control. With that in mind, I find it very interesting that when he claims that he called 911, he says something to the effect of , "I know I called, with the very core of my being," & when his young wife talked about her faith that he wouldn't go to prison, she used the exact same language & phrasing, & combined with her statements that she is in "awe of him," that is exactly the sort of power dynamic an older man would love. She'll do what he wants, even deferring to him on most things, & using the same language is called mirroring, & like the word we draw it from, mirror, the idea is that victims may mirror the behavior of the other person, or you can use it in something like a police interview to make the suspect more comfortable, or many of those gross "seduction experts" in the Manosphere apply it to dating. Its a subtle way to trick the other person's brain into a "natural" sense of connection.
You don't have to, but it is preferable. Put it this way, if someone is on the bed and you can't move them, you do it there, don't waste time trying to get someone to help move them. In this case, he says he'd pulled her out of the bath, so no reason not to put her on the floor. In fact walking across a wet tiled floor carrying someone would be challenging.
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First impression..the husband seems to be faking innocence.
I know exactly what this woman felt. I have been there and while she may have tried to take her own life, the incident in the bathtub proves that her husband wanted a new start with the _other_ woman.
I think so too. This religion is all about the men and their womenfolk must be modest and obedient. Remember it was polygamist from the start
He didn't call 911? That's all I need to know. . . Also "If your mom wakes up she might say weird things. " Like my husband drowned me?
That comment about her possibly saying weird things is SO telling.
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Right? I believe they said he went to his car then the neighbors? He had to make sure she was definitely gone before the paramedics came. I'm outraged by the sentence! (Didn't want to spoil the ending in the comment section)
I'm not buying into it. I don't believe the daughter. She seems to be making up stories as time moves on.
If he pushed her off the cliff, why would Faylien stay silent about it?
It was her first suicide attempt.
Very sad story. If Grant is guilty of anything, it would be for not seeking mental health help for her.
BoooOOOM!!!
My wife was his next door neighbor through middle and high school. He gave her the creeps more times than she can count. Especially after he volunteered for a youth camping trip. I guess he was trying way too hard to impress all these younger girls to like him in the creepiest ways imaginable. My father in law actually went to his house and told him not to ever approach, talk to or even look at his girls.
I’m glad they saw through him! As a woman just seeing him on screen gives me the ick.
Damn! I’m sure your father in law could see right through him . Scary
@@BarnabyBaltimoron _"Everybody declared that he was the wickedest young man in the world; and everybody began to find out that they had always distrusted the appearance of his goodness."_
Jane Austen: _Pride & Prejudice_ 1813. ch.48
Thank goodness for intuition. Yikes!
All over social media he had posting he’s innocent bragging that poor Faylene’s family lost their civil suit. And how he was framed. He must have a lot of Mormon friends in his community defending his sorry horrible lying crazy personality. They said he liked his young wife because she wore thongs and he is a creepy sex addict. I think he only got 5 years.
This guy is reminiscent of chad daybell with their murderous prophecies towards their "redundant" wives. Shame
My thoughts also! Serious parallels here...
You read my mind!!
@@1Hogany read or read ?
@@adambane1719😀English grammar! 🤦🏼♀️
Whats up with Mormons?
"Falls" of a cliff, and months later, she's found unconscious in the tub. The one guy with her both times says to the daughter, "If your mom wakes up, she might say weird things". What a psychopath.
Idk who’s worse. The cheating husband who calls his friend before 911, his crazy sister who believes her brother can do no harm, or the mistress who thinks she won like the lottery or something.
She took will be traded in
Lmbo 😂😂😂😂😂
Heeheeheee
That part💯💯💯
That's why I could not watch, they were making me balk.
Finding a person you believe to be dead, or dying, and you call a friend before calling 911 ? Guilty
And he said he was “scared” to call 911. Scared?? More like guilty.
He was a dr…have you ever been in that situation? Didn’t think so.
@@bv2745 my mother has actually, and she sure as hell didn’t call a friend she called an ambulance… as most people would!
@@bv2745if you want to help the person, you don't call a friend. 911 would have given him instructions on how to potentially safe her since he wasn't a doctor
That was very strange
ASK Chris Watts and Scott Peterson if a mistress has anything to do with killing your wife....
Add Chad Daybell in there too!
As a woman, I can never understand why some women want to get involved with married men, or men whose wives died under weird circumstance.
It's always the way... an affair and life insurance
Or Chad Daybell or Lori Vallow Daybell
To be fair, the unborn child was the biggest motivator for Peterson and Watts. The mistress was just an enhancement.
He’s a great guy he only married his mistress, emotionally and mentally abused his wife, failed to call 911 render cpr, told kid she’s dreaming tried his hand at fake prophecy but great dude. The delusion in this episode is horrific
As a survivor of abuse in the Mormon church I want to thank you for sharing this story. The church has a tight hold on the media in Utah, as well as the law. They do not want bad press. The victims in this case deserve to have this story told. Thank you thank you thank you.
What does this have to do with the Mormon church? He also banked at Wells Fargo should we make the leap to Wells Fargo abuse
every religion or group has a few wackos but it’s not a true reflection of all Mormons.
@tootaloobuckaroo
You have to admit that this woman was ripe for the looney bin. And her child takes comfort in her mother's nutty writings? Out of their minds.
I know what you are saying.
Beliving in some Doktrin is most times fatal. Think on your own, thats why everybody has got his own Brain.
Not a single person in this seems to be living in reality.
I liked the prosecutor. He argued passionately for justice
mormons lol
That’s religion for you…
The way I chuckled reading this comment!!
I agree. It's mass insanity which by the way, is epidemic in America.
Sounds like she was a little "off" and her husband took advantage of it.
Oh Faline was much more than a lithle “off”.
Yup.
Not being funny she was off her rocker with all that religious crap. It sounded like Chad and Loris BS.
A little off? Try a cruise ship off.
A little off?! That's the understatement of the century!!
Typical narcissist and such a terrible liar. 😂
What about the new wife at the end. I laughed during that press release when she said, "It's easy when you know he's innocent," while shaking her head no. I had to, lol.
Not everything is narcissism. I dont know when that clinical term started to show on every internet comment.
Understood, but I'd say it fits this fella quite well. The people featured on this prog are often far from normal @@kentuky1233
@@kentuky1233and just because it’s on an internet comment doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist 🤦♀️
@@kentuky1233you are correct when stating, "not everything is narcissism"..I'll give you that. But the word "narcissism" definitely seems to hold water in this scenario as it pertains to the "husband" here. ✅️ Hope you understand. 😊
Never trust a cheater, betrayal and manipulation is their breathing oxygen.
Yep or a narcissist
This dude looked at least 50 when he was in his late 20s...
Baldness will do that
You do not put a person on a bed to perform CPR. You learn that when learning CPR you need to put person on floor or a hard surface
And had he called 911 they would have told him that.
No kidding! Cmon it’s so hard to pick up “dead weight “ and it’s illogical.
@@Angelina6518plus the bed would have been sopping wet if he’d of picked her up from out of the tub, but not sopping wet if he simply held her head under. Seems a lot of info was left out.
@@PinkGrammarGirljust what I was going to say
@@PinkGrammarGirlyes indeed. CPR protocol when you are alone is to call 911 FIRST then CPR.
If he "knows" CPR, why did he put her on the bed? She had to be on a hard surface.
Exactly I thought about this!!!
Exactly!!! Yet he emphatically says, "I KNOW CPR". No, he doesn't.
Was coming to say the same thing! 😂
@@cathyprosser1050 Yeah he does... he just had no intention of saving her.
@@cathyprosser1050I thought that he replied with “I know CPR” when the interviewer asked “you knew CPR?” because he didn’t know it at the time that he killed her, but he learned it just in case he needed to cover up his lie.
The sister's constant smiling and Michelle Duggar baby voice is creepy af.
Mormons gonna morm😅
Ha!
Reminds me of the documentary
Her smile never reaches her eyes is the creepiest thing. 27:19 27:22
@@pink-dahlia Yup. You're not wrong.
"Were you having an affair?" NOT AT THE TIME??!!? What kind of answer is that?? How about I WOULD NEVER because I love my wife???? 🤦
he was being honest...he did have an affair but not at that time.
The sister calling Doug a family man. She’s a nosy piece of work.
30 seconds in & I can tell he's guilty AF
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Yep
Yup. Slimeball. That hair gave him away.
Mmmmhmmmm - that caveat, “at the time”, says it ALL
he was honest he said it wasn't working out, first thing he says
100% guilty, he is. And his sister? Whack job.
If there was evidence of it, he would have been prosecuted.
You would know after all, you talk to trees.
Look at my comment we said the same thing! That sister was coo-coo 😵💫
@@laurastuart3814 Of course. However, lack of evidence & subsequent prosecution doesn’t mean he did not do it
@@ITalktoTrees No, but it makes for a safer conviction. Innocent until proven guilty. Better to have the system we have where people are proven guilty on evidence rather than the opinions of youtube commentators.
His Family is delusional. He's such a good man? NO.
He seems like a master manipulator
Did you not hear her own words in her journal? Go to 25:20 and listen to the journal entry. She kind of jumped off a mountain too. Can't forget that part.
This woman is not all there...sorry but she isn't.
@@gags730 That doesn't take away that he is not a good man.
These are the type of people to echo the same bull when there's a child predator in their family.
The sister seems fake, smiling inappropriately! Ugh.
An army of enablers behind every predator.
So true! You're right 👍🏻
I can’t be the only one who thinks he pushed her off the cliff??
As sure as eggs is eggs
This is one of those videos that every single person involved with the defense makes my skin crawl
You do know they are actors ?
Agreed
no coz im so annoyed, the sister looking like the deceased wife
You find your wife dead in the tub and your 1st call is to a friend? Wait what?
If he were guilty he should've waited a few hours before calling anyone
He called her Doctor! that is not proof of guilt...many guilty ppl call 911
Prolly didn't want the call recorded to hide his guilt.
3 weeks later he marries another woman.
Yall always talking bout situations yall never been in what😅
Everybody in this episode is Batshit crazy
No doubts about that. But that is normal in the Mormon world. This is not the first case.
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I Have an aunt and uncle, who are Mormon and living in Utah, but they’re not like this
His family is looney tunes
delulu as hell
That diary sounds like it's been written by him. Not in a lifetime a woman would say her husband should directly marry another person after death
Unless her husband had talked her into polygamy and prophecies
Wow.. wow.. Juan Martinez the prosecutor - here. Thanks for showing him here. ❤
I knew I recognized him! He tried Jodi Arias!
isn't he disbarred now due to allegations of sexual harassment?
His new wife had better hope he doesn’t start having prophecies about her when the next hot young blonde catches his eye.
She's next, just wait and see
@@by.jkh.yep. She’s delusional.
I imagine she was groomed as teenager. She had to have been brainwashed to marry him so soon after his wife's death.
She is gambling with her life😢
FACTS 💯
"Accidental" drownings in bathtubs to me are always highly unlikely and suspicious
Yes...unless drugs are involved.
Exactly!
Yeah it's not possible for adults unless you're an only person and slip. Makes no sense.
She may have taken a whole load of ambien. Judging by her journaling, she wasn’t planning on sticking around on this planet for too long!
According to her journal she really was depressed and seemed to have a death wish. Those religions with their loveless doctrines and manmade laws and rules just make people think they're never good enough
Nothing of Jesus' great love, forgiveness and mercy there. So tragic
Sometimes the lies seem so obvious. It was difficult to believe Doug. Particularly when his sister came into picture and did not miss a single opportunity to pull the victim through the dirt with the sweetest voice she can offer...😵💫
And his new wife; it is beyond creepy how quick they took off. Not even when hating someone will a morally developed person be emotionally able to re-merry within such a short time. IMHO none of them shows any true feelings, all of them are creepy. That's some horror movie family there.
The sister’s and the new wife’s voices are obnoxious. 🤮🤮
I feel immediately repulsed by Doug. I don’t understand how anyone could be fooled by him. No intuition???
Did they really need to tell us that Nevaeh is heaven spelled backward????
Every body that gives their child that name makes sure to tell you 😂😂😂
right 😂
Lmao 😂
Is it common there? I know at least 2 Nevaeh’s here in Central Alabama. I think “Heaven” would sound better than it spelled backwards. They do tend to explain the name immediately with introductions. 🤭
I had never heard the name until I petsit a family of dogs, one of them a husky with that name. I've never heard of a person with that name. I always wondered where she got the name, but never asked. I didn't know until I saw this video what it meant.
Nevaeh is how the Latins pronounce the cream NIVEA!
The new wife "I don't care what people think I am who I am" while looking away from the camera. If you are so proud of yourself held your head up high but maybe she can't because she knows deep down she wrong, fooling around with a married man is nothing to be proud of
Would Like To Be A Fly In The Wall When Hilary Finds Doug Cheating On Her, And
Planning Her Death ! 😂
Rightttytt😂🎉
Family says “he’s a great man”… A great man doesn’t cheat on his loving beautiful wife! How can the mistress now wife says “she’s the lucky one”??? These people are crazy & it breaks my heart that her daughter will forever live her life without her mom because of her evil step father 😢
Not to mention he groomed the teenager who he wanted to marry. Gotta get ‘em while they are too young to know better.
i find it odd how she called Faline her friend and talked abt "what she would've wanted" excuse me? are you her family? don't talk abt what she would've wanted
Martin Luther King was a serial cheater. So he isn't a great man?
All true, but she doesn’t seem normal to me ! Of course when i saw the great martinez i am convinced he is guilty!
Amen
This guy could've been besties with Daybell...
Both men failed their lovely wives.
They are brothers from different mothers.
Daybells wife was NOT lovely.
@@vj8406I think they meant the wife he killed
I was getting Daybell vibes too. Especially with the vision of her early death.
I think Doug forced his wife to write those journal entries about dying.
After losing the man i love in a sudden death, i cannot imagine how ANYONE could marry another person a month after a traumatic death like that. It's so wrong.v
Even after a divorce I needed years. Gross.
I'm so sorry for your loss..
… you’re panicking because she’s ’not responding’ so you call a friend instead of first responder’s?!
I mean, the friend was a doctor at least...
He knew she was dead trying to spin the story😂
How did that dude get beautiful women to fall for him
Because looks ain't everything it's what's in the ❤️
I'd like to know that too! He wasn't good looking and he didn't seem particularly charming either.
@@christyenglish881 then it’s a double wonder because his heart is rotten and he’s a cheater.
Come on, he is not an ugly man. Besides, a woman doesn't feel attracted to a man just because he is physically handsome - what oes that mean, after all?. There are many qualities in a man that can make a woman feel attracted to him. And the other way around is also true.
He's successful.
50 secs can tell hes lying
Me too.👌
Scary
“I have never hurt anyone in my life,EVER!” 🤥
Yep.
Yep.
Let me leave these tears that I squeezed out on my face so that I can make sure everyone sees!!🙄
The local LEOs acted as though they had never investigated a homicide. My Rule #1 in ALL death investigations is "Investigate ALL deaths as a homicide until PROVEN otherwise." The reason being once you've released the scene, the body, the suspect, the witnesses, and the evidence you'll never get them back. I once spent two days at a crime scene (where I also slept) to process it. It turned out the victim had died from an epileptic seizure but I also had a crime scene of a suicide which turned out to be a homicide. Not every death is what it appears to be but only a thorough investigation will find the truth.
Anyone else notice how his sister could be Faylene’s twin..
I thought it was Faylene for a second I was like wait arent you dead???? And his much younger new bride looks just like his stepdaughter. Creepy af 🤢
YESSSS!😮
@@Pauly421YAAAAAS oooh! You are right on both accounts!
Creepy
Yes!
Mormon true crime stories should be their own genre, I have absolutely no idea what is going on
As an ex-mormon, there is a direct correlation between the discouragement of divorce and the prevalence of polygamy in the after life. That's just the tip of the iceberg
@thI205
I totally agree with you,
you're right i think 🤔 they could start a new genre of Mormon true crimes too,
bloody hell there 😳 is more unexpected twists and turns in this Mormon true life crime episode,
absolutely annoying story!
Yes they should!!
Ha! Same 😅
Doug is definitely not a good man. His sister must really love him.
@wuncieadams1352 His sister reminds me of a Stepford Wife, creepy...
She’s being dutiful- the ultimate purpose of her existence within the church.
@@angiebond5139 dutiful does not mean supporting a murderer or lying. The very word “dutiful” means to do one’s “righteous” duty. Besides that, she is his sister not his wife. She was not born to serve him. One reason we were all born, I am sure, is to serve God, not mammon and certainly not man.
are you referring to Mormon or Christian?
Love doesn't lie.
It's difficult to understand this story without in-depth knowledge of the LDS faith. The LDS is a patriarchal system- the man, the husband, is the leader of the family both spiritually and financially. Whatever he told her, she believed. The LDS faith relies on feelings and emotions to instill and encourage belief. If he convinced her that he'd had visions of her death, and of her in the Celestial Kingdom, and that his girlfriend was meant to be his second wife, and her sister wife for eternity, of course she would work to befriend her and make sure that everything was as good as it could be for her children. Also, anyone who has ever attended an LDS meeting has seen first-hand how they're trained from childhood to "turns tears on and off" while bearing their testimony of the truth of the Church. That's all his testimony in court was- a different kind of testament meeting.
He married a 19 years old chick just 3 weeks after wife's death, says everything.
He should be in jail for naming a kid ",Braven."
That's the only thing there is no 'reasonable doubt' about.
It was Neveh. Heaven backwards
We named my mom ....Mom. It's Mom backwards. We were going to do the same with my Dad but it gets confusing so we didn't do it.
@@jillwiegand4257She’s talking about the son.. two different kids . Towards the end of the video he’s at the sentence hearing asking the judge for leniency , but both Braven & Neveah are interesting names to say the least…..
@@calise7988 got ya! 👍
I think the $2 million wrongful death suit was probably the best "justice" the family was ever going to get. Sometimes hurting a person in the pocketbook is the worst that can happen to them.
Exactly!
Nothing saying they got a dime though. Wrongful death suits are just an order on paper.
Wrongful death suits are against the home insurance, not the individual. He didn’t pay for anything.
In This case, exactly.. fjk the Judge
@@Cmrodriguez89not just home insurance..auto..renters etc…if a person don’t have neither then they are responsible
I am convinced that Faline had some mental issues that needed to be addressed with a professional therapist and Psychiatrist. But having grown up in the Mormon “church”, I can tell you, this level of crazy indoctrination isn’t unusual in that organization. So I can see that the religious fanatic argument as being true.
Yes, but he told her daughter, once they got her heart started, if your mom wakes up she might be saying strange things. I,m thinking she may have said he tried to off her🤷. That's my opinion. Idk
As one who grew up in the church I can say this is the rare exception not the rule and you can find this type of issue in any group of people.
Exactly
@@admirallilyNo. It's a cult
Between the mood swings (extremely happy, hearing voices (God’s in particular) to extremely sad, to the point of being suicidal, it looks like Faline was suffering from Bipolar Disorder
The "Mistress was disgusting and absolute shameless " I wouldn't have anything to do with that type of woman, who new he was married and had children. She, nor he had any moral ethical principles nor true religious values, grotesque.
She took has a sell by date
The fact the average juror doesn't understand their role, scares me. They all admit they don't know what he did (reasonable doubt) then convict him of manslaughter just because they think he did SOMETHING. Not how it's supposed to work.
This is what I was thinking as well. Then the guy juror says we knew was a scumbag. Wtf our system is so messed up
Exactly!!!
Right? "Eh, just a gut feeling. He was a scuzbag."
Just because he is a scumbag don't make him guilty
I think most jurors are like that. They tend to convict
He is fake!
Oh no, he is real! A real liar and a murderer that is!
And sadly he and his children got the jurors and judge to have a lower/lighter sentence. He almost got away with his crime and 5 years is really not enough.
100 %
And your statement is REAL 💯 👍
Yes...USED his children...uses everyone, rather than authentically loving anyone.
The fine line between religion and insanity.
Absolutely true. And sometimes there is no fine line in between: some religious expressions ARE insanity.
Religion is insanity.
It's the politics of spirituality; hence anathema to actual spirituality.
All Religion is a mechanical of control.
Scripture? From God?
Hardly...it's all from man himself, hence flawed
Mechanism of control!!!
Stupid phone strikes again!
Not such fine a line here. The woman was bat sh*t crazy.
Mormonism is just a club the real God is not involved.
When they say God spoke to them it is not Him... It is the opposite
He said, he knew how to do cpr.
If he really knew, he would not have to pull her out of the tub and lay her on the bed, instead he had to "cpr" her right then and there on the (hard) bathroom floor.
Also the handling of the medication, totally unresponsible.
This makes no sense at all.
And re-marrying 3 weeks later?
What bizarre case from beginning to end.
Well spotted, and not calling 911 right away is a dereliction of duty and care.
That was something I caught right away and him barking that he knows CPR!
@@garnGad He himself Never called 911!, Guilty as sin! 😅💙
No, the hard floor is preferred. CPR doesn’t work well in a bed.
@@selecttravelvacations7472 thank you for clearing that! English is not my first language and you explained it much better than me 😊 The soft bed/bedding takes much of the needed pressure away.
You must be from the medical field also,
Greetings from Germany 🐞
Why would you "confront" someone you thought had tried to throw themselves down a mountain. Would they not need love, concern and help? What a weird reaction.
That defense attorney is AWFUL! I would never hire him. Brown-noses the jury and then gets called out and gaslights them "I'm not pandering!!!" Talk about yikes.
He tried killing her on the hike but he failed so he finished her off in the tub. This is the most delusional family ever. Also, was her journal ever verified by a hand-writing expert? Either the husband wrote the journal or forced her to write it. And was there ANY proof that two wives had ever been friends? Any photos together? Text messages or phone calls between them? There's nothing but this alleged journal. Family should file a wrong death civil suit just to stick it to him.
I sure hope so!
Umm except she survived the first one and did not report her husband had pushed her
@@JamesCraigWhooppeople being abused usually don’t report the abuse right away, especially if they’re taught the abuse is acceptable
I would imagine the daughter knows her mom's handwriting.
@@AnonForever70 A push from a cliff however?
I think a person who continuously claims his/her aspiration in life is ‘helping others’ is actually a person needs helps.
Help or jail.
Ooof, I felt that!
As a person who used to need, to be needed, I now understand that the unrelenting drive to help was mostly unconscious childhood conditioning. At least that’s how it was for me. It’s not attractive and I’m kinda embarrassed about it now, but I actually did help some people. However, it came at the expense of my health and relationships.
The sister's baby voice (a la Michelle Duggar) is killing me.
I thought I was the only one who thought the sister sounded like Michelle Duggar🙄
Oh, my gosh. I saw a video on RUclips by a gal who's ex-Mormon, and she talked about this voice among Mormon (and other fundamentalist) women. It's soft, sweet, feminine, subservient, gentle, etc. Good insight!
Yes, the baby Christian fundamentalist voice! Gives me the ick! 😂
And not only that voice, but everything about her bugs me.
It's that whole keeping sweet BS
I took ONE 10mg ambien 5 yrs ago & it knocked me out for 10 hrs! I was 59, have been resistant to medications as long as I can remember, always sleep at most 7 hrs, normally 6. Those are strong sleeping pills, Faylene was knocked out! Seems obvious that he gave her few drinks & the ambien!
This is incredibly sad & distressing for her daughter. 🙏❤️
Unfortunately, ambien didn't work for me at all
I took an ambien one night at bedtime which for me was 9 pm. My girlfriend had given it to me to sleep. I didn't wake up till the next day at 12. I will never ever take another ambien.
@@lesare6509 again ambien did not do anything for me at all. They are not powerful sleeping pills. I got zero sleep for 2 straight nights while taking 20 mg pills
@@rogerburch69 I believe it Roger, I won’t mess with them either, can’t cuz I take opioids for adv neuropathy pain. Best friends nephew mixed methadone & ambien a month ago, died in his sleep, 28 yrs old. 🥺 He knew better, he had migraines & just wanted relief I think. You take care!🙏🤗
Any person that conducts an interview, manages to eke out a few tears, and DOESN’T wipe away those tears so everyone watching will interpret it as true grief, is ABSOLUTELY guilty! Think about that. When have you ever done that? Isn’t it a natural instinct to immediately wipe them away? He’s putting on a show. Evil!
Well said!!!!!!
I'm only in 25 min and ALL of these people sound NUTS. Her journals were REALLY suicidal but why didn't he call 911? This whole thing is bizarre AF.
It got worse though huh. Sooo weird
If she was contemplating suicide and writing about it in the journals, why wasn't she getting psychiatric help?
Put them all in jail anyway. The jury is nuts too.
Women don't drown in bathtubs!!! When are we going to get this through our heads
They can if they've had too many drugs
People, unless they have a heart attack or a full of a specific type of pharmaceutical, such as Zolpidem or Ambien, usually slip and fall in the bathtub or shower.
He conveniently fell asleep - then did not call 911.
Also even I know you do CPR on the floor not the bed.
Too bad it was instantly ruled as an
Accident.
Whitney Houston did.
@@denisedwyer4929She was drugged up.
Oh please, I could tell he was guilty within the first 10 seconds.
Thank God life sentences are not dependent on the emotions of anonymous keyboard warriors.
5 seconds
@@laurastuart3814exactly. "I cAn JuSt TeLl" is why thousands of wrongful convictions occur every year
I know this isn't the biggest issue here, but I'm astonished that the PA prescribed ambien plus a muscle relaxer following an injury like this. Both medications cause sedation, and should not be taken together. Muscle relaxers cause so much sedation that they're usually enough to induce sleep on their own. That is terrible medicine.
He told Doug not to have the Ambien script filled until after she finished the muscle relaxer. He didn’t listen.
@@terryKessler42719 Meh... you can future date a prescription. For example, if I was to send both of these scripts, on the Ambien script I'd write "DO NOT FILL before X date"
Him and his bride to be knew his wife was suicidal and instead of getting her help, they would implant more ideas in her head, they should both be in prison
Red Flag: A man picking a much more younger woman. There is such a power imbalance ... Narcissist all over.
No.
Red flag: someone who believes that, “much more younger,” is proper English. Hahahaha. I’m sorry but she was a legal adult and she made her own decisions. A disparity in age between partners is not indicative of narcissism on the side of the elder. That’s absolutely nonsense.
@@elmokirkwood3969 English is not my first language. But I can explain it to you in other languages if you like. Psychopaths pick partners they can control. It's obvious that this 19-year-old is mostly inexperienced in life and was easy to brainwash.
*a much younger woman
One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Your friend/family Dr instructs you to call 📞 911, later you tell him that you had not because you were afraid. 😮 Are you kidding me?!? You are in distress and in need of help, yet you are afraid to call 911?. Boy bye! 👋🏾
Truest thing he ever said. He was afraid of jail.
Wow! They all seem just a bit delusional in their own "special" way...... I feel bad for the daughter.
When he was asked what he did when he found her, he was looking down and for a split second it looked like he has a smirk on his face then immediately started with the tears . It looked like he was remembering that moment when he smirked. A true narcissist.
I found his grief to be fake.
What is with these people? Divorces, remarriages, new husbands and wives, kids from this one, kids from that one. I am not against divorce per ce but really these people are so selfish and then off they go to their church all and pretend to be squeaky clean. what messy lives. Poor children how confusing.
And these are the same type of people who want to dictate to others on HOW TO LIVE.....
yeah so messy! Marry and remarry the same person. And after wife died, marry a new woman in less than a month. SMH.
These people are insecure they need attention.
The locked door, the fact that he didn’t call 911, and what he said to her daughter…he did it. I don’t understand why he re-married her when he was so in love with someone else. Didn’t want to pay child support? This case has so many crazy people in it, it is hard to know who to believe. And it doesn’t help when the cops lose so much evidence, and don’t process the scene properly.
the cops very likely were mormon as was his attorney, probably the judge as well - the use of influence among the mormons is very real
That is not adequate evidence for a conviction. Many Guilty ppl call 911 after waiting a while ..if you read Faylene's diary , she does talk of her death and suicide...She even leaves instructions for Hillary to take over her place as a mom ...
Those fake crying and blinky eyes Always give it away😔
You do know they are actors right?
They're not actors in 48:hours. See the intro please.
@@jessicafrias6431 So you are saying they got the husband out of prison to appear in this drama?
@@laurastuart3814 the interviews sometimes are from inside the prisons,and sometimes the interviews are after years have gone by and the person completed their sentences. It varies.
My cousin went through almost the same thing but escaped! Thank you Jesus my family left the Mormon cult!
I didn't find anyone in this episode who seemed sane.
Why does the sister look so much like the victim??? So weird
Exactly! That and everything else about this case is weird!
The daughter looks like the lover...
I got Stepford wives vibes from all of them.
I thought it was the victim till she was like "my brother could never do this" I was like wait aren't you dead??? 😂
@@surpriseimblack Exactly!!! So creepy!
0:54 seconds in and I know the guy is guilty. Who calls their friend instead of 911 himself?
I don't believe she wrote those journal entries her daughter read because when they showed the originals the handwriting was different on every one of them. I know from writing in my own journals my handwriting never changed if so very little not as drastic as what I seen on here of hers. Two different cursive styles then all capital letters? Come on, she didn't write those. Yes their feminine but I bet the mistress wrote em after the fact because of what is said especially the last entry her daughter read. So I don't believe a word he says. I believe he drugged her with Ambien & muscle relaxers & when she took her bath that night the amount of Ambien & muscle relaxers he gave her kicked in & she went under. With two medications that relaxes your entire body & one that makes you drowsy well the muscle relaxers can make you drowsy also. No wonder she became unconscious & "drowned". He totally planned this. I also think he beat her up while they were in the mountains & she didn't fall. Just like what was stated she didn't have significant enough injuries for that type of fall from that height. Also his lawyer saying he took her to the hospital after her fall is incorrect it was stated that his doctor friend came over & looked at her & prescribed her the medications. Sorry this was so long but I just had to get all of this off my chest.
“Nothing was proven, but it was just a gut feeling”. -a juror. That’s American justice these days.
Why is a doctor writing prescriptions he doesnt want filled without a phone call? Charge his a** too.
PA, not a doctor. Maybe the better question is why is a PA writing prescriptions, and why writing them for a friend's wife.
Exactly! Why write a prescription for something they have to phone you first before they fill it.And then the husband seems totally unaware he was supposed to phone first. And why a prescription for 2 drugs that would combine so badly, for a friend’s wife . So many bad prescribing choices..That assistant should have his prescribing rights revoked.
He has affairs, remarries her, falls off cliff, eventually dies….. he wanted insurance.
100% 🙌🏻
All these people are just out there. Creepy AF!!
I don't know how many other people are aware of what is commonly believed about when an older man dates/marries a much younger woman, but typically its believed that since they have very little in common, or the same interests, or can have the same conversations, etc, the 2 main benefits for the man are of course that she is youthful & attractive, but more importantly, that a younger woman is much easier to manipulate & control. With that in mind, I find it very interesting that when he claims that he called 911, he says something to the effect of , "I know I called, with the very core of my being," & when his young wife talked about her faith that he wouldn't go to prison, she used the exact same language & phrasing, & combined with her statements that she is in "awe of him," that is exactly the sort of power dynamic an older man would love. She'll do what he wants, even deferring to him on most things, & using the same language is called mirroring, & like the word we draw it from, mirror, the idea is that victims may mirror the behavior of the other person, or you can use it in something like a police interview to make the suspect more comfortable, or many of those gross "seduction experts" in the Manosphere apply it to dating. Its a subtle way to trick the other person's brain into a "natural" sense of connection.
A man is thrown in jail when jurors admit there is no evidence he committed a crime? Our society is truly upside down.
Where did they say there was no evidence?
He said he knows CPR. But he didn’t keep doing it. You’re supposed to keep doing it until paramedics take over. He wanted her to die
SHE’S IN AWE OF THE SIZE OF HIS FOREHEAD.
Must be, can't see myself, looks like a nerd
What a bunch of weirdos
Right ?
Indeed
What do u expect there religious
Where are my 48-hour addicts?
👇
here ! lol
Here from Russia
Guilty from Kenya 🇰🇪
Here 😂😂
From the Netherlands 🇾🇪
He did it.
I thought you had to perform CPR on a hard surface ?
I know CPR
You don't have to, but it is preferable. Put it this way, if someone is on the bed and you can't move them, you do it there, don't waste time trying to get someone to help move them. In this case, he says he'd pulled her out of the bath, so no reason not to put her on the floor. In fact walking across a wet tiled floor carrying someone would be challenging.
This guy is guilty as hell
So where is the evidence?
@@laurastuart3814
O ye wicked and perverse generation, ye lawyers and hypocrites, for ye are laying the foundations of the devil; for ye are laying traps and snares to catch the holy ones of God.
18 Ye are laying plans to pervert the ways of the righteous, and to bring down the wrath of God upon your heads
There is no evidence that he is guilty, in fact the evidence point to the contrary
Those CROCODILE TEARS though...
For real!
I found an article stated 8 years later he was arrested and only got 5 years for manslaughter.
New wife was asked, “how do you keeping holding it together?” and she replied, “it’s easy when you know he’s innocent” while her head is shaking “no”.