In the comments you have dealt with so many types of arguments most of the political background or simple ignorant comments, but no one has yet explained why a Gheg Albanian perfectly dancing the opening of Olympic Games of "Ancient Greek", see us Albanians we did not need help to literate texts or historians who assure us of our origins, because the Albanian customs and traditions speak for themselves, it is very simple to understand that we are the direct descendants of the Illyrians, Dacians, Thracian and Hyllens! ALBANIANS ARE MODERN PELASGIANS OR PROTO-INDOEUROPEAN! THE TRUE ORIGIN OF INDOEUROPEAN PEOPLE ARE NOT IN CAUCASUS BUT IN BALKAN-ANATOLIA AREA!
@@macedonia_republic3079 so what are Albanians after you? because all history archives prove they come from the Illyrian tribe of Arbanoi and their center Albanopolis noted by Ptolemy in the 2 ceuntry AD.
It's supposed to be... it's supposed to be uncomforting for the people that heard it and danced to it were about to lose their lives. It's the music that Alexander's soldiers danced to before they went to war. It woke them up from any romantic thoughts, and gave them adrenaline. At the same time, made them synchronize their movements as a team. But most of all, made them feel like Gods. They went in with the winner attitude... and came out winners. No one stood before them.
This hat must of changed through times. We Geg Albanians use mostly a second costume the Tosk Albanians also use this costume actually and here an arbereshe song watch?v=HGdOWK-huw0 these are the people you call arvanite in greece... do you know what Qani trima means? it means Cry tough guys... trim in albanians means tough... the word in Albanians can be switched for example it's both ways Kani and Qani, the K has changed with Q... some say Qani some say Kani same with laughing which means
shum video e mir ;) une akoma skam pa, ksi vallzimi, respekt! Kqyrni video nga vallzimi ne Rugov! Shum ma ngrit Adrenalinin kur i sho! Kurt ja nisi me kercy, kallna krejt haha
In ancient Greece they divided dances in Apollonian and Dionysian dances. The Dionysian dances where fast and wild and the Apollonian dances where very slow and controlled. I believe this is a child of some ancient Apollonian dance. Here is another Apllonian dance. ruclips.net/video/EoZGHO43cik/видео.html
Rare to see a positive comment from a greek (even though your surname sounds a bit albanian so you might be arvanite). Thanks anyway. Greeks hate albanians in general and think they don't belong where they are.
@@albarmy1 As a teacher and musician i' ve studied and i Iknow all the tradition from Albania .I' ve done thousands comments maybe more than anybody else .
What we can call greece or hellas is just a little part of modern greece including Athens ,a part of Beotia and the northen part of Arcadia Many anciant historians and geographs recognize that helenic culture was for a major part influenced by Illyrians , including Gods which were hellenizes like Thana in Diana (and I'm not talking about contomporain books) but "hellenic" authors from antiquity
@@silvanobertolini5089 Theodor Momsen : The survivors of the Ilyrians are the Albanians. Kelly Miller : The Balkan battelfield is exactly the center of world History. Wadham Peacok : The mann who marched to Babylon Persia and India were the ancestors of the Albanians. Nikolla Jorga : The Albanians people together and the Basques one are the oldest5 in Europe. Joseph Salinger : The Epirotic lamguage of the past is the Albanian language of Today. Branislav Nusic : The Albanians are indigenious who during all the agitations managed to save their charachter and even emphasized it.They resisted on Romans attacks and surrived the slavic migrations. Edith Durham They are strewen with the wreckage of dead Empires past powers only the Albanian gos on forever. Robert Gordon Latham : Macedonia and Thracia were Albanian / Skipetar.Franz Bopp : Albanian is the oldest indoeuropean language. Alphons de Lamartine : Albanians this nation and this people can not be mocked .This is the Landd of Heros of all time .Homer found there Achilles the Greeks the Alexander the Great.Turks found Scanderbeg people these of the same racethe same Blood. Mauricio Druon : Albanians belong to the Nations who are older then the History.and the Grandfathers of Albanians took part in trhe Troy War,ruled by Hector on one part and by Achilles on the other part. Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz : Albanian is the old language of the Ilyrians. Edwin Pears : Albanians are the Descendants of the oldest race in the Balkanic Peninsula an Aryan Race.Even the word Aryan in their language means pure Gold. Maximilian Lambretz : The tru History of the Humanity will be written only when it will be written with participation of Albanians. Jovan Cvijic : South Slavs after arrived in the Balkans found there the Albanians who under their preasure Slavs retreated southward and to most mountains Areass. Edwin Jacues : Ilyrians or Albanians those tirelessnes sonns,were warriorrs of the Albania ethnic.Amcestors of Achilles , Philip II,Alexander the Great and Pyrros of Epirus.Johan Georg von Hahn : The Albanian derives from Ilyrians and the Ilyrians from Pelasgien one. Henri Barisford : In Macedonia Albanians are the only indigenous people. General Niox : Albanians are of Pelasgien origin they are considered one of the most beautiful and courageous races. Gustav Meyer : The Albanian language is the oldest language in Europe.Herbert David : Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkans, and they are the gods of the mountains from very ancient times. They are the descendants of the ancient Pellazgia, no other race has a valid claim to the territories of the Albanians. Lord Byron : Albanians with their costums make a most wonderful scenery in the world. Albanians are the mostr beautiful human race exists courages, stronger than their strongholds. Konstandin Paparigopuolos : Only the Albanians are considered descendants of the Ilyrian Race. Gustav Meyer Albanians are the young Ilyrians and the Ilyrians are the Descendannts of Pellazgi. Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz : If you want to discover the History before Christ and the sciense at that time , you have to learn the Albanian language. Strabo : Betwen Grece , Thrace and Danube are the Tribes of Epirots , Macedonians and Ilyrians. John Wilkes The lands betwenn Adriatic and Danube were inhabited by a people called Ilyrian. When the Albanian language will be well studied and when its oral traditions will be exhumed, then many of Homers works will be revisited and some of them will need to be corrected. Herodotus had no idea that the names of the Heroes of Homers work were clearly in the Pelasgien language.Even Homers own name can be tracked back to the Albanian language : Good and in the form Imiros means good poetry. In the Albanian language it is : Agamenon , He - ge-mendon, he who thinks , Ajax that Bloodsucker ,bloodsucker: Priamos , Mothers Son,mothers son and with an ironicmeaning Son of the Earth, of the Country: Achilles , of heaven one descended from heaven: Odyseus of the Road the traveler the one who walks: Ithaka, i thak - idhnak: Droilos,Droili (os) one who fears,a coward .Many more could be added to this list. Its is not suprising if people who have studied the Albanian language say that this is the original language of Homer and that the Greeks took from the Pelasgien poets most of the songs of valor and heroicones. They built big walls that are called cyclopean and for which Prof.Pokok says they were built long before Homers Greeks existed.From this strong prehistoric race only the Albanians remained.Only later was it realized that the Pelasgien were the old Ilyrians ,the first Indo-European branch, whose empire stretched from Asia minor to the Adriatic and from the North to the Danube.From the studies of young writers,like Proff. Max Mueller and Proff, POT, in the Albanian language this origin became stable. Thesse Ilyrians who still live in Albanian as Toska, Toscana,Etruscan.It is in vain to look for the gods of Grece in the etymology of her language. In the Albanian language these are very clear and their meanings are very correct. Gor example , Chaos emptiness, space Erebus,son of Chaos, is er-het-os, made dark: Uranos is I-Vran-os, that is, the fairy of the clodus, the Clodus: Zeus, Zaa,Zee,Zoot-God,voice of lighting: Athena is the Spoken , by speaking the word: Nemesis,nemes,that is, nam,Devils call: Muse,Mosois,is the Teacher:Venus meansclose to the day,the dawn. George Fred Williams wrote in 1914 : If we go back to prehistory, before the Homeric rhapsodes were sung to the gods and mythological heroes, before the Greek language was written, there lived a people known as the Pelasgiens. Albanians are the only ones who have come to this day from this powerful prehistoric race.Only in recent years has it been determined that the Pelasgiens were the Ancient Ilyrians.... These Ilyrians also went to Italy under the name Toska, as they are still called in Albania, while in Italy they remained as Toska, Tuscan Etruscan. Albanian was the tru language of Homer, because the Greeks borrowed from the rhapsodist Pelasge their famousepic....Albanian was the mother tounge of Alexander of the Great conquests and and of Pyrrhus of Epirus,one of the greatest generals in History...... It is a tragedy beyond all imagination , that this great and very ancient race should end up in this state, which deserves to be called the Scandal of European Civilization.It is not suprising that the Otoman conquer prohibited any exavation in the Albanian land, which could remeind the people of its former glory.. What a great wealth of knowledge awaist the archeologist when the Albanian land opens the treasure of the History of the Pelasgiens. The origin of Albanians - In prehistoric times , before the poets of Homer sang of their Gods and heroes of fairy tales,before the Greek language was written, there lived a people called the Pelasgians. Even before the Hellenic branch became known in the Mountains of Thesaly, Skodra the chief city of Albania was undoubtedly the capital great Kingdom of Ilyria. Facts about the Origins of the Moderrn Greek State .1. The first King of Grec is the Bavarian Prince Otto 2 The Typical Greek of the time spoke Arvanite a language very cloesly realeted to Albanian so it is a Albanian dialect,3 The national costumes of Greek is the Albanian Fustanela 4 The national Dance of the Greek indepedence is the Albanian Chamiko The Dance of the Chams /Came -a subgroup of Albanians in Greec.4 In the Year 1831 Athens was made up of 8000 houses where most of the Inhabitants were Albanians. -Helene Glykatzi-Ahrweiler.5 The majority of Greek soldiers spoke in Albanian to one another Parnassos Magazine. History of The Greek flag in 1822 Grecce adopts this flag its naval ensing. in 1828 in battle of Navarino Britain liberated Grecce from Turks.In 1978same flag becomes Greek national flag. Greek national Flag is British Colonial Blue Ensing Flag.
And you don't find it weird at all to have Nis in Albania and in Greece, Hasi in Albania and in Greece, 500 villages named Souli in Albania and one in Greece, who spoke only Albanian, other last names like Drenitsaris, Skipetaris, Gomaris... or do they mean something else in a plethora of other languages that... somehow they all came from the Greek language? Seriously, I try to avoid any Greek's comments because it's just a waste of time. We know you're proud, but don't that that blind you.
What do Arvanite call themselves in their language? They call themselves Arberor/Arbereshe. What did Albanians in middle ages call themselves? Arbereshe What do Albanians in italy call themselves? Arbereshe and their village is called Piana Degli Albanese... the ones in Ukraine also use the term Arbereshe sometimes, but mostly Shqiptar. they all use the same Albanian flag. Arvanite was a greek word used to call Albanians. Arvanite became greeks due to the same religion, Orthodoxy.
They became greeks due to forced assimilation, not because of the religion. They were not allowed to learn their own language, or even speak it in public. Obviously through hundreds of years of this kind of opression they forgot their roots, but even today you can find older ”arvanite” people in greece who still speak albanian. There are plenty of orthodox christians in southern albania for example, why didnt they turn into greeks? Because they werent forcibly assimilated like the ones in greece. A lot of albanians were also ethnically cleansed from greece.
If we (Epiriotes) are greek please explain me why in the Odysée , the coast in front of Ithaque is preseted as the land of "Barbars" Strange ? isn't it
We been living in helenistic kingdoms yet we have customs, dances etc that ancient greeks had but modern greeks don't have? interesting. Copied? You're saying that like it's a bad thing. Skanderbeg used it as a war flag it was originally a war flag of byzantium, later we adopted it as national flag? Can you explain to me where the problem is? Why didn't any greek claim it then or protest? many flags in balkan are from byzantium, some theories are that the flag even pre-dates byzantium.
The music is hype... It's supposed to be an adrenaline builder. Used before and after wars to prepare the soldiers to be alert! It's a godly dance. Makes you feel powerful. Most know very little about it.
this is ancient albanian epirotan music, today the mixture of albanians, vlachs, turks, slavs, russians and armenians under the flag of the orthodoc church called '' Greece'' has some similair dances from the arvanites
The people who still use the Greek alphabet the Greek language and have a Greek identity since the Bronze Age Who are the Albanians. ?? "The language of the Albanians is unformed and adulterated. In many areas Italian elements have been incorporated into the language, in others Greek and in others Slavonic. Therefore Albanians who live fifty or sixty miles apart do not understand each other. In addition, there are racial differences between the Gegs who live in the wild north and the Tosks in the less rugged south. One would say that they belong to different ethnicities. And indeed this is the case. It would be easy to prove that the Albanians are not one people but half a dozen peoples.. They are the descendants of desperate races who lived defiantly and outside the law and were not exterminated or assimilated by the conqueror but maintained their independence blocked by the "fortress" of the Albanian mountains." (Sir James George Frazer, p. 257-258)
@@davidscwimer1974what a crock of shit, any albanian speaker can understand eachother, doesnt matter if you’re from the northernmost part of albanian lands to the most southern. Also this about ”different races” is shit too. We’re the same race, which is obvious from dna tests. People from the south maybe mixed more with greeks, and people from the north more with slavs. But the ”albanian” dna remains the same.
in that documentary they say for example fustanela was a cloth that only albanians used to wear there for the arvanites had to be albanians but if google word fustanela in wikipedia you can see pictures of byzantin potery and byzantium soldier wearing the exact same thing as well as romanians scotch etc. you hear tatsopoylos (member of syriza)talking about the albanians as he calsl them arvanites that among other minorities have to be forged into a new greek nation
No wrong answer, Aleksander = Aleks + Ander It means the man who resists. Look words in greek: Aleksisfero, aleksikeravno, etc Andras, Anir (ancient greek word for man) The truth is different, you just hear rumours, too bad you believe them... by the way don't tell me that the name Olimpia is also Albanian? ok then the Olympic games which where held in the city of Olimpia were Albanian, and the athletes there that swor that they are greeks by descent were just playing theatre :D
In a state that is not threatened by the very existence of it neighbouring people (Greece?), these dances are called by their proper name: Arnavut, Arberor, Albanski, Arban... etc, and maybe at some point in the region's past as Arbanitika. Keep in mind Greeks never called themselves Greeks... just Ellin-es... or ...... Illyn-es maybe? or Illyr-es?? lol.. r/n rotation of the Ancient "Greek" existing only in Albanian today (Shqiperia/Shqypnia). Not attacking you, but just keep an open mind.
they r called Grake gra.ke woman have Graecia. woman walkers ...not like ur new name Greece Anatolian.. this is before u came from Anatolia , this is when thash e Athene (the gossip ) had only arbresh arvani with 8000 population. popull.
@BlizzardRoach where did you see the name of Alexander written in other than Greek letters. If you tell me i will believe you. On every coin the name is written ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ ΑΛΕΞ + ΑΝΔΡΟΣ (genitive) and in greek i don't have to change the word or try to split it in single consonants or vowels
@BlizzardRoach Please mention an ancient text that Epirus is called Himara. Epirus is a Greek work and it is still used in modern greek and it means land/continent. ΗΠΕΙΡΟΣ
Strange Epirus is the word for land in Greece... by the way Aristotle (who i don't know if you think he is crazy or stupid or anything else because you guys know everything) called Epirus as ancient Hellas (Greece).
@@fluz2222 this is what you want to believe but unfortunately Albania is a new coined term and as a country had to be invented by the Italians and Austrohungarians. I would be very unhappy if I didn't knew where I come from and so I feel sorry for you.
@BlizzardRoach i am sorry to disappoint you but i can understand 100% of the text of Homer. By the way i don't remember mentioning the existance of albanians. Regarding the words from Homer, these words still exist in the Greek language and most of them are part of combinations. I am glad though that you have so many greek words in your vocabulary. Otherwise you would be able to speak only for goats and sheeps.
The Arbereshe in italy moved before Albanians started calling themselves after the eagle. they moved while Skanderbeg was still alive. the Albanians in Ukraine moved after Skanderbeg died. when we adopted the term Shqiptare, hence why they call themselves Shqiptare.
Rouga (Alb. Street)... is different from Roga (Alb. Pay). Rougats (Alb. A person of the street, houligan, gang member). Rogats (does not exist in Alb. nor in "Greek")... so it can't possibly be what you're saying. But you may be told it means so by clergy, who crafted the modern history of Greece, in order to divert anything that reminds its population of being of neighbouring stock. Read up here... nytimes. com/2009/06/24/arts/design/24abroad.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2
OMG i just cant stop watching it , its so beautiful , all spirit all music all feelings is just i dont know i keep replaying it , i love it i love it i love it , and am so glad we can see the real albanian culture now , and one suggestion for the guy who is dancing U SHOULD OPEN A DANCING SCHOOL TEACHING JUST THIS KIND OF DANCE i just can picture an opening of olumpics in albania with this stuff , uf hothot
But yes, the Arbereshe in greece are assimilated into greek population and no longer speak albanian... they are not albanians anymore. so I'm not trying to claim them. I don't know why you are discussing this. you are trying to tell me the arvanite always were greeks? no. they were originally Albanians that fled from albania to greece during ottoman war, just like albanians fled to italy and to ukraine.. even albanians in croatia... some use the word arbereshe, some use shqiptare.
vasioanna the Albanian language has only been spoken for 2500 years and for so many years it was not written if you learned Albanian you would understand its antiquity
@MusicOfEpirus You still ignore history and talk about people in Hydra and Psara but before they got "brainwashed" they were among the ones who wanted to establish the modern country of Greece. It doesn't mean they were albanian or arvanites because they could speak arvanitika (not albanian). In the southern part of FYROM there are about 100,000 greeks who don't even know a signle word of greek.
whats the name of the dance/music plssss? this is the only video on youtube i could find rgarding this type of dance. if u can provide more, pls do so thank u so much
8 лет назад
It is sort of a military dance the origin is Turkish
8 лет назад+1
Ρε καραγκιόζη έχεις ακούσει τουρκική πολεμική μουσική βλακα τι αρχαία ελληνικά και παπαριες
honestly for me is a great pleasure to talk with people blind (by some common propaganda and rumors) as far I can see you don't seem to be such a person, and is all in your favor people who are trying to convince you are not influenced by any propaganda and are not searching an identity , since they have a considerable one :) (you are not talking to sllavo macedonians )
@vasioanna the word mathematic explained : mate = to measure, to scale e = and mate = to measure, to scale mat-e-matik = The measuring and scaling. and u surely know that the first mathematic subject was GEOMETRY :) ITS ABOUT MEASURING AND SCALING :)
I will answer to you with only one thing. You call my country Greece. The Turkish call it Junanistan. The Chinese call my country ~xi~ la. You know what each means? Greece - Greek = the ancient land and greeks are the ancient ones Junanistan = Land of the Ionians (because the Turks met the Ionian tribe first when they came in this area) and the Chinese call my country with its greek name Hellas (Land of fire). Do you know why? because they have an ancient civilization too. So simple...
One thing i notice to all of you commenting is that you use words like stupid, hilarious and other characterizations. It is because you don't know what to say to convince me that i am wrong. You need to justify your thoughts, not characterize the other. I guess the word dialogue doesn't mean anything to you.
moreover it's stupid to think that the name Olimpia is originary from the little vilage since the name is present in many locations at that time ( I just remind you that Olypia is a mythic location : the house of gods so many villages and places were named like that (just like Apollonia ))
@vasioanna :D you CANT split it . thats the point. you just cant explain it . & of course his name was always written in 'greek' letters oO because illyrian and greek were almost identical because they both delivered from the pelasgians !
very true... and the biggest of these fighters wree the albanians, this why Greece is the last theorcrtacial state in Europe, in every Balkanic state religion is a base sructure, besides the albanian nation, which is blood, language, costumes, folk culture, tribla laws etc etc, however i thank you a lot for your honesty
We call it "Valle me Tupan" (NOT Daouli/Daul) That is an eastern word, much like most of Modern Greece. Tupan = Tympan(um) Valle me Tupan means "Wave dance with Drum"
Can you explain the word Alexander in Albanian? I guess not... by the way what's the albanian word for music....since music is ancient to albanians they should have their own word....not music...
@topallia Just for your information, during Communism the teachers were obliged to send to the party (goverment) a list of the words that were not included at that time in the official albanian books. A teacher i know had made many lists of those words. After communism passed and she came to greece she found out that the words she was providing to the party were nothing but greek words. Her parents spoke a mixture of greek and albanian (obliged by communists). Check your ancestors
vasioanna And does this teacher know that he himself (or she herself) provided those words to the party? Since you seem to know that teacher, it won't be difficult for you to mention her/his name. Or, perhaps you are just inventing things as you go!!??
cause the arvanite in greece and italy adopted the latin name of your country that romans used to call you while those in ucrania adopted the name that you call yourseves Shqiptare
typo on the above message, it should read: turkish coffee is used in other countries too, eg in Spain but they don't call it spanish coffee, nor do Albanians call it albanian coffee! greeks are special - they are the "centre" of the world.
ANCIENT albanian dances???Hahahaha this is the best joke!This is GREEK music,although this man in the video dances like a CLOWN,because he's trying to dance something else of what this dance really is.
Μάριος Παππάς it’s Odysseus song , the man , and His journey finding His people , the point is He does it His way and whenever He wants like in this video , stopping in the middle of it , crawling not falling , of high character that can drop very low , the high low , here is another version ruclips.net/video/YyjVHdx_0-E/видео.html (Odysseus was made based on the future man to come , from ancient prophecy apparently)
Not at all sacrilegious. I love women who spread their legs :) I think you've got the wrong idea about Albania my friend. Either way... please look up those peoples last names in the "Greek" Macedonian region. You will probably not realize the meaning, but they do carry northen Albanian last names with -S in the end. Dranitsaris (look up Drenicar means, and where Drenica is) Hasiotis (look up what Hasiot means and where Hasi is) Nisiotis (nwhere Nish is) Also, what's rougatsia mean?? lol
you know the turkish coffee (how we call it in Albania) - in greece they call it greek coffee - tipical of greek behaviour! turkish coffee is used in other countries too, eg in Spain but they don't call it spanish coffee, nor do Albanians call it turkish coffee! greeks are special - they are the "centre" of the world.
coffee originated from Ethiopia.Ethiopians were cristian ortodox,( even now)and the ortodox Ethiopian church brougth the coffee in Greek Patriarchate of Konstantinopoli , in 15 century. Got it?
Another example are the aromanians or vlachs in pidus also living in fara therefore not asimilated with other population in ipirus region keapt their own language and traditions a lot of them are similar to the arvanites traditions but even with romanian goverment speanding a lot of oney ito schools and propaganda they never lost their greek idetity and during ww2 they were the first fightingagainst axis in the greek resistance.
a small history exampe for you to understand the deference of place of origin an national identity are the vlachs living in thesaly, during ww1 and balkan wars prime minister venizelos was forced by english alies of greece to give to a part of the vlahs romanian nationality. None of them keapt that nationality but instead they call themselves greeks. Vlach is the name germanic tribes used to call the people that used latin dialects inside the borders of roman empire
@NewGreekCulture The "rogatio" has nothing to do with the collection of taxes to be payed by the villagers to help the clergy to build churches or other buildings. The term is used in a legislative meaning only, and has to do with the legislative bills that the senators proposed in Senate. "Rroga" in albanian means 'service or salary', instead "roga" means "furrow"...
@Alban Jashari ne gegnishten thojm, bane at pun ma leht(shembell) ose bano(ë) ti leht pra shkurt ba lehte _gati si O i thojm (ë*)s arbere - arben-alBAN-o-i=All ell ill yll =yllban=Alban,per gjuhtaret sot usht shtir se per ata eshte ma lehte me fol Tosken sic e kan msu ne Shkoll etj por gegja u ma simple dhe ma shkurt sikur kur te folin Femit 🙃 Ps ba lehte vetem e kan jek ni Dy shkronja dhe u kry falsifikimi sikur te fjala QYSH thojn si usht Turqisht ☝️ Sic CIS QYS QYSH si me CIRLI = ILIRIC vetem e kan shkru mbrap ...se Gjuha atyvne vjen nga Gjuha jon dhe usht ni Produkt i besimitarve slavet e kan përzi me Latin Grek dhe tonen Gjuh me shumic bili kan munci si mujn me kan Illir te slavizuar si e kan ba ket pun ciril ilirik & me thot (d) cirili & method (mendimi jem) pershembull fjala (UJ) si u ndodh??? Nga tingulli pikes kur te bjen ne Uj,ban Uj Uj uj ....
I think you are confused. this video has absolutely nothing to do with Caucasus Albania, those are the people that you are thinking of.. They didn't call themselves Albanians but it was called Albania by Romans Alb means mountanious in latin. mountanious land. The Caucasus is mountanious like the Balkan, which means mountain in turkic. This is Ancient greek, shows todays Albanians from Balkans have similar culture to ancient greeks.
Well said. Greeks of today have no traditional connections with the ancient Greeks of the past. Im proud to be Albanian because im proud of my ancestors who i know listened to the same style of music and danced similar steps as I do today. thank you for this video
Yeah our culture does has roots in ancient greece. Even God in Albanian (zot) is very similar to the ancient greek god Zevs, and in byzantium. We were part of Byzantium as a people. But I disagree about the fustanella.. Albanian culture is also similar to celtic culture and some historians have noticed similarities between Albanian highlanders and scottish highlanders. the bagpipes are also very similar.
OK. I didn't know that... I thought the Arvanite in greece called themselves Arbereshe. but the greeks call them Arvanite, which was a word refering to Albanians in middle ages. I got this from google search. but I do know only one arvanite who said he is Albanian. it's the only Arvanite i ever met. he grew up without learning Albanian but he started learning and can speak very well. other than that I don't know arvanite... but I know Arbereshe and they are Albanians.
first of all arbanitia as we call it in greek is a place in albania not a nation, everyone in byzantium and otoman empire were usually speaking two languages at least one is the language that your parents teach and another is the language you speak in the place that you live, so the greeks living in pontos spoke turkish and an ancient greek dialect in today albania greeks that lived there since 800 bc (and i am sure you have seen the greek temples theatres and statues in your country)
I never said they have been forced to be something else. I said they are originate from albanians.. as I tried to explain to you. if you don't believe me you can google Arvanite, and see what they call themselves: and what they call their language: they call it Arberisht. this is Albanian word. as I explained to you.. Albanians in middle ages fled to many countries.. one of them greece and assimilated into greek community because of the same religion, orthodoxy. this is no problem. if they don't
The Qani trima song is Arvanite. they don't call themselves Arvanite in their language, they call themselves Arbereshe. the same as in italy, the same as Albanians called themselves. but some fled to greece, others to italy.. Albanians first fled to Italy. that land was given by the pope to Skanderbeg. watch?v=-kV7KDpDKE0 Arbereshe song in italy
Actually, today's Albanians have nothing to do with ancient Albania (in a different location), which was entirely eradicated as a people and a nation by the Muslims.
maybe you should see some documentaries of arbereshe in italy? albanian tv went there. they speak albanian and everything and even call themselves Albanians. Some of the biggest Albanian nationalists have been arbereshe. Arbereshe is what we used to call ourselves. Shqiptare means after the flag. Shqiponja means the eagle, the term is taken from the flag. the arbanites in ukraine call themselves Shqiptar... search up Shqiptaret ne Ukraine.
So who the hell are you fools to say they are not Albanians when they go infront of camera and say they are and even speak Albanian after 400 years in italy???? And they had a huge impact on Albanias independence in 1912,. and albanian national awakening, kosovo's uniciation with albania at that time, kosovo's independence in 2008, some of them came up with the Albanian alfabet in 1912 (google it). their national hero is also Skanderbeg and they use the same flag.
I never heard someone say you stole our flag. And national heroes? I don't know about that. Fustanella is actually originally used by Albanians. it was adopted by greeks after greece war of indepdence from Markos Botsaris and the souliotes (heros of the war) who were were Orthodox Christian Albanians. But allot of Arvanite are assimilated in greece. if they wanna be greek it's fine, if they wanna be albanian, it's fine. it's up to them it's not up to us to tell them what they feel.
most of the vlachs were greek slav and albanias that served in the roman empire and got themselves recognized as roman citizen, most of albanias however keapt their local tribe identity and prefered to be mercenaries instead
In the comments you have dealt with so many types of arguments most of the political background or simple ignorant comments, but no one has yet explained why a Gheg Albanian perfectly dancing the opening of Olympic Games of "Ancient Greek", see us Albanians we did not need help to literate texts or historians who assure us of our origins, because the Albanian customs and traditions speak for themselves, it is very simple to understand that we are the direct descendants of the Illyrians, Dacians, Thracian and Hyllens!
ALBANIANS ARE MODERN PELASGIANS OR PROTO-INDOEUROPEAN!
THE TRUE ORIGIN OF INDOEUROPEAN PEOPLE ARE NOT IN CAUCASUS BUT IN BALKAN-ANATOLIA AREA!
Pellazgo Illyrian our best culture living the history 🇦🇱
Albania people is pellazg illyria autochtones
ΣΤ ΑΡΧΙΔΙΑ ΜΟΥ ΒΟΙΔΗ
@@Lion-rs2qy speak english son
@@Lion-rs2qy STARQIDHJA E GOPIT SATEM. legen turko arab, o pers iraniano egjyptuan.
Albanians aren't
Illyrians - (or Pelasgians)
@@macedonia_republic3079 so what are Albanians after you? because all history archives prove they come from the Illyrian tribe of Arbanoi and their center Albanopolis noted by Ptolemy in the 2 ceuntry AD.
this is so powerful!! its magic
This is taken from the past, unbelievable
Beautiful dance, full of spirit - Thank you music of epirus for your commitment and the variety of the material you propose to us
I love this country. wonderful expression of spirit!!!!!
This is beautiful
It's supposed to be... it's supposed to be uncomforting for the people that heard it and danced to it were about to lose their lives.
It's the music that Alexander's soldiers danced to before they went to war. It woke them up from any romantic thoughts, and gave them adrenaline. At the same time, made them synchronize their movements as a team.
But most of all, made them feel like Gods.
They went in with the winner attitude... and came out winners. No one stood before them.
a true warrior dance, its very old and epic
This hat must of changed through times. We Geg Albanians use mostly a second costume the Tosk Albanians also use this costume actually
and here an arbereshe song
watch?v=HGdOWK-huw0
these are the people you call arvanite in greece... do you know what Qani trima means? it means Cry tough guys... trim in albanians means tough... the word in Albanians can be switched for example it's both ways Kani and Qani, the K has changed with Q... some say Qani some say Kani same with laughing which means
Trim=brave man
shum video e mir ;) une akoma skam pa, ksi vallzimi, respekt! Kqyrni video nga vallzimi ne Rugov! Shum ma ngrit Adrenalinin kur i sho! Kurt ja nisi me kercy, kallna krejt haha
e bukur shume, i ka ik truri grkeve me ket video, bravo je i madh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amazing sound ,ancient and speechless for the dancer .
In ancient Greece they divided dances in Apollonian and Dionysian dances. The Dionysian dances where fast and wild and the Apollonian dances where very slow and controlled. I believe this is a child of some ancient Apollonian dance.
Here is another Apllonian dance.
ruclips.net/video/EoZGHO43cik/видео.html
@@durimmiziraj4815 i watched the link and i found it very folk and modern .This is the origin version and sound.Thanks a lot brother for the inform
@@ntanilo Οχι προβλεμα αδελφο
Rare to see a positive comment from a greek (even though your surname sounds a bit albanian so you might be arvanite). Thanks anyway. Greeks hate albanians in general and think they don't belong where they are.
@@albarmy1 As a teacher and musician i' ve studied and i Iknow all the tradition from Albania .I' ve done thousands comments maybe more than anybody else .
What we can call greece or hellas is just a little part of modern greece including Athens ,a part of Beotia and the northen part of Arcadia
Many anciant historians and geographs recognize that helenic culture was for a major part influenced by Illyrians , including Gods which were hellenizes like Thana in Diana (and I'm not talking about contomporain books) but "hellenic" authors from antiquity
Dances of Hmathia! ... which at some point in antiquity mean "the great one".
Albanian: E Mathia ... English: The Great One
Ma - Ke - Dhon.
@@silvanobertolini5089 Theodor Momsen : The survivors of the Ilyrians are the Albanians.
Kelly Miller : The Balkan battelfield is exactly the center of world History.
Wadham Peacok : The mann who marched to Babylon Persia and India were the ancestors of the Albanians.
Nikolla Jorga : The Albanians people together and the Basques one are the oldest5 in Europe.
Joseph Salinger : The Epirotic lamguage of the past is the Albanian language of Today.
Branislav Nusic : The Albanians are indigenious who during all the agitations managed to save their charachter and even emphasized it.They resisted on Romans attacks and surrived the slavic migrations.
Edith Durham They are strewen with the wreckage of dead Empires past powers only the Albanian gos on forever.
Robert Gordon Latham : Macedonia and Thracia were Albanian / Skipetar.Franz Bopp : Albanian is the oldest indoeuropean language.
Alphons de Lamartine : Albanians this nation and this people can not be mocked .This is the Landd of Heros of all time .Homer found there Achilles the Greeks the Alexander the Great.Turks found Scanderbeg people these of the same racethe same Blood.
Mauricio Druon : Albanians belong to the Nations who are older then the History.and the Grandfathers of Albanians took part in trhe Troy War,ruled by Hector on one part and by Achilles on the other part.
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz : Albanian is the old language of the Ilyrians.
Edwin Pears : Albanians are the Descendants of the oldest race in the Balkanic Peninsula an Aryan Race.Even the word Aryan in their language means pure Gold.
Maximilian Lambretz : The tru History of the Humanity will be written only when it will be written with participation of Albanians.
Jovan Cvijic : South Slavs after arrived in the Balkans found there the Albanians who under their preasure Slavs retreated southward and to most mountains Areass.
Edwin Jacues : Ilyrians or Albanians those tirelessnes sonns,were warriorrs of the Albania ethnic.Amcestors of Achilles , Philip II,Alexander the Great and Pyrros of Epirus.Johan Georg von Hahn : The Albanian derives from Ilyrians and the Ilyrians from Pelasgien one.
Henri Barisford : In Macedonia Albanians are the only indigenous people.
General Niox : Albanians are of Pelasgien origin they are considered one of the most beautiful and courageous races.
Gustav Meyer : The Albanian language is the oldest language in Europe.Herbert David : Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkans, and they are the gods of the mountains from very ancient times. They are the descendants of the ancient Pellazgia, no other race has a valid claim to the territories of the Albanians.
Lord Byron : Albanians with their costums make a most wonderful scenery in the world. Albanians are the mostr beautiful human race exists courages, stronger than their strongholds.
Konstandin Paparigopuolos : Only the Albanians are considered descendants of the Ilyrian Race. Gustav Meyer Albanians are the young Ilyrians and the Ilyrians are the Descendannts of Pellazgi.
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz : If you want to discover the History before Christ and the sciense at that time , you have to learn the Albanian language.
Strabo : Betwen Grece , Thrace and Danube are the Tribes of Epirots , Macedonians and Ilyrians. John Wilkes The lands betwenn Adriatic and Danube were inhabited by a people called Ilyrian.
When the Albanian language will be well studied and when its oral traditions will be exhumed, then many of Homers works will be revisited and some of them will need to be corrected. Herodotus had no idea that the names of the Heroes of Homers work were clearly in the Pelasgien language.Even Homers own name can be tracked back to the Albanian language : Good and in the form Imiros means good poetry. In the Albanian language it is : Agamenon , He - ge-mendon, he who thinks , Ajax that Bloodsucker ,bloodsucker: Priamos , Mothers Son,mothers son and with an ironicmeaning Son of the Earth, of the Country: Achilles , of heaven one descended from heaven: Odyseus of the Road the traveler the one who walks: Ithaka, i thak - idhnak: Droilos,Droili (os) one who fears,a coward .Many more could be added to this list. Its is not suprising if people who have studied the Albanian language say that this is the original language of Homer and that the Greeks took from the Pelasgien poets most of the songs of valor and heroicones.
They built big walls that are called cyclopean and for which Prof.Pokok says they were built long before Homers Greeks existed.From this strong prehistoric race only the Albanians remained.Only later was it realized that the Pelasgien were the old Ilyrians ,the first Indo-European branch, whose empire stretched from Asia minor to the Adriatic and from the North to the Danube.From the studies of young writers,like Proff. Max Mueller and Proff, POT, in the Albanian language this origin became stable. Thesse Ilyrians who still live in Albanian as Toska, Toscana,Etruscan.It is in vain to look for the gods of Grece in the etymology of her language. In the Albanian language these are very clear and their meanings are very correct. Gor example , Chaos emptiness, space Erebus,son of Chaos, is er-het-os, made dark: Uranos is I-Vran-os, that is, the fairy of the clodus, the Clodus: Zeus, Zaa,Zee,Zoot-God,voice of lighting: Athena is the Spoken , by speaking the word: Nemesis,nemes,that is, nam,Devils call: Muse,Mosois,is the Teacher:Venus meansclose to the day,the dawn.
George Fred Williams wrote in 1914 : If we go back to prehistory, before the Homeric rhapsodes were sung to the gods and mythological heroes, before the Greek language was written, there lived a people known as the Pelasgiens. Albanians are the only ones who have come to this day from this powerful prehistoric race.Only in recent years has it been determined that the Pelasgiens were the Ancient Ilyrians....
These Ilyrians also went to Italy under the name Toska, as they are still called in Albania, while in Italy they remained as Toska, Tuscan Etruscan. Albanian was the tru language of Homer, because the Greeks borrowed from the rhapsodist Pelasge their famousepic....Albanian was the mother tounge of Alexander of the Great conquests and and of Pyrrhus of Epirus,one of the greatest generals in History......
It is a tragedy beyond all imagination , that this great and very ancient race should end up in this state, which deserves to be called the Scandal of European Civilization.It is not suprising that the Otoman conquer prohibited any exavation in the Albanian land, which could remeind the people of its former glory.. What a great wealth of knowledge awaist the archeologist when the Albanian land opens the treasure of the History of the Pelasgiens.
The origin of Albanians - In prehistoric times , before the poets of Homer sang of their Gods and heroes of fairy tales,before the Greek language was written, there lived a people called the Pelasgians. Even before the Hellenic branch became known in the Mountains of Thesaly, Skodra the chief city of Albania was undoubtedly the capital great Kingdom of Ilyria.
Facts about the Origins of the Moderrn Greek State .1. The first King of Grec is the Bavarian Prince Otto 2 The Typical Greek of the time spoke Arvanite a language very cloesly realeted to Albanian so it is a Albanian dialect,3 The national costumes of Greek is the Albanian Fustanela 4 The national Dance of the Greek indepedence is the Albanian Chamiko The Dance of the Chams /Came -a subgroup of Albanians in Greec.4 In the Year 1831 Athens was made up of 8000 houses where most of the Inhabitants were Albanians.
-Helene Glykatzi-Ahrweiler.5 The majority of Greek soldiers spoke in Albanian to one another Parnassos Magazine. History of The Greek flag in 1822 Grecce adopts this flag its naval ensing. in 1828 in battle of Navarino Britain liberated Grecce from Turks.In 1978same flag becomes Greek national flag. Greek national Flag is British Colonial Blue Ensing Flag.
And you don't find it weird at all to have Nis in Albania and in Greece, Hasi in Albania and in Greece, 500 villages named Souli in Albania and one in Greece, who spoke only Albanian, other last names like Drenitsaris, Skipetaris, Gomaris... or do they mean something else in a plethora of other languages that... somehow they all came from the Greek language?
Seriously, I try to avoid any Greek's comments because it's just a waste of time. We know you're proud, but don't that that blind you.
ILLYRIA❤❤❤
What do Arvanite call themselves in their language? They call themselves Arberor/Arbereshe.
What did Albanians in middle ages call themselves? Arbereshe
What do Albanians in italy call themselves? Arbereshe and their village is called Piana Degli Albanese... the ones in Ukraine also use the term Arbereshe sometimes, but mostly Shqiptar. they all use the same Albanian flag.
Arvanite was a greek word used to call Albanians.
Arvanite became greeks due to the same religion, Orthodoxy.
They became greeks due to forced assimilation, not because of the religion. They were not allowed to learn their own language, or even speak it in public. Obviously through hundreds of years of this kind of opression they forgot their roots, but even today you can find older ”arvanite” people in greece who still speak albanian. There are plenty of orthodox christians in southern albania for example, why didnt they turn into greeks? Because they werent forcibly assimilated like the ones in greece. A lot of albanians were also ethnically cleansed from greece.
The dancer is albanian from turkey/Istanbul/zeytinburnu and name is resul çalışkan :)
Burak Uzunboy Sagol kardesim!
Man, I am big fan of Resul bey. He
just is so great!
If we (Epiriotes) are greek please explain me why in the Odysée , the coast in front of Ithaque is preseted as the land of "Barbars"
Strange ? isn't it
We been living in helenistic kingdoms yet we have customs, dances etc that ancient greeks had but modern greeks don't have? interesting. Copied? You're saying that like it's a bad thing. Skanderbeg used it as a war flag it was originally a war flag of byzantium, later we adopted it as national flag? Can you explain to me where the problem is? Why didn't any greek claim it then or protest? many flags in balkan are from byzantium, some theories are that the flag even pre-dates byzantium.
The music is hype...
It's supposed to be an adrenaline builder.
Used before and after wars to prepare the soldiers to be alert!
It's a godly dance. Makes you feel powerful.
Most know very little about it.
this is ancient albanian epirotan music, today the mixture of albanians, vlachs, turks, slavs, russians and armenians under the flag of the orthodoc church called '' Greece'' has some similair dances from the arvanites
Great dance , great dancer !!
Where can I see the full original video of this great dance and tupan? Please and thanks
this is beautiful. ku eshte e incizuar kjo dasem?
Gjithashtu:
Alb. Daulle
Geg. Tupan*
Grk. Ntaulis
Ancient Greek. Tumpan-os* (Lat. Tympanum)
(credits to Pirrothecham)
hahahahaah MusicOfEpirus ymer te qofte, ja ke heq petllen grekeve hahahaha, keep up the good job.
Kuq e Zi 🇦🇱🦅❤️
Wonderful comparison! Just applaud you once more!
I join the audience and ask the same question: who are today's Greeks?
The people who still use the Greek alphabet the Greek language and have a Greek identity since the Bronze Age
Who are the Albanians. ??
"The language of the Albanians is unformed and adulterated.
In many areas Italian elements have been incorporated into the language, in others Greek and in others Slavonic.
Therefore Albanians who live fifty or sixty miles apart do not understand each other.
In addition, there are racial differences between the Gegs who live in the wild north and the Tosks in the less rugged south.
One would say that they belong to different ethnicities. And indeed this is the case. It would be easy to prove that the Albanians are not one people but half a dozen peoples.. They are the descendants of desperate races who lived defiantly and outside the law and were not exterminated or assimilated by the conqueror but maintained their independence blocked by the "fortress" of the Albanian mountains." (Sir James George Frazer, p. 257-258)
@@davidscwimer1974what a crock of shit, any albanian speaker can understand eachother, doesnt matter if you’re from the northernmost part of albanian lands to the most southern. Also this about ”different races” is shit too. We’re the same race, which is obvious from dna tests. People from the south maybe mixed more with greeks, and people from the north more with slavs. But the ”albanian” dna remains the same.
in that documentary they say for example fustanela was a cloth that only albanians used to wear there for the arvanites had to be albanians but if google word fustanela in wikipedia you can see pictures of byzantin potery and byzantium soldier wearing the exact same thing as well as romanians scotch etc.
you hear tatsopoylos (member of syriza)talking about the albanians as he calsl them arvanites that among other minorities have to be forged into a new greek nation
Dude... don't make them learn! lol
Then they're gonna say we copied from them...
"Because this is KHellenik dance!!" (with a middle eastern accent)
nice video
No wrong answer,
Aleksander = Aleks + Ander
It means the man who resists.
Look words in greek:
Aleksisfero, aleksikeravno, etc
Andras, Anir (ancient greek word for man)
The truth is different, you just hear rumours, too bad you believe them... by the way don't tell me that the name Olimpia is also Albanian? ok then the Olympic games which where held in the city of Olimpia were Albanian, and the athletes there that swor that they are greeks by descent were just playing theatre :D
In a state that is not threatened by the very existence of it neighbouring people (Greece?), these dances are called by their proper name:
Arnavut, Arberor, Albanski, Arban... etc, and maybe at some point in the region's past as Arbanitika.
Keep in mind Greeks never called themselves Greeks... just Ellin-es... or ...... Illyn-es maybe? or Illyr-es?? lol.. r/n rotation of the Ancient "Greek" existing only in Albanian today (Shqiperia/Shqypnia).
Not attacking you, but just keep an open mind.
they r called Grake gra.ke woman have Graecia. woman walkers ...not like ur new name Greece Anatolian.. this is before u came from Anatolia , this is when thash e Athene (the gossip ) had only arbresh arvani with 8000 population. popull.
@BlizzardRoach where did you see the name of Alexander written in other than Greek letters. If you tell me i will believe you. On every coin the name is written
ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ
ΑΛΕΞ + ΑΝΔΡΟΣ (genitive)
and in greek i don't have to change the word or try to split it in single consonants or vowels
@BlizzardRoach Please mention an ancient text that Epirus is called Himara. Epirus is a Greek work and it is still used in modern greek and it means land/continent.
ΗΠΕΙΡΟΣ
Strange Epirus is the word for land in Greece... by the way Aristotle (who i don't know if you think he is crazy or stupid or anything else because you guys know everything) called Epirus as ancient Hellas (Greece).
Part of Epirus is in Albania and the whole land of Epirus was in Albania until that was given to Greece
@@fluz2222 this is what you want to believe but unfortunately Albania is a new coined term and as a country had to be invented by the Italians and Austrohungarians. I would be very unhappy if I didn't knew where I come from and so I feel sorry for you.
Where can I find full original video from 0:35? Please help! Thank you!
The Albanian in this is that this is how we dance, the people in that video are Albanians.
@BlizzardRoach i am sorry to disappoint you but i can understand 100% of the text of Homer. By the way i don't remember mentioning the existance of albanians.
Regarding the words from Homer, these words still exist in the Greek language and most of them are part of combinations. I am glad though that you have so many greek words in your vocabulary. Otherwise you would be able to speak only for goats and sheeps.
he is not dancing, he is just trying to make the napkin in his hand become a helicopter
The Arbereshe in italy moved before Albanians started calling themselves after the eagle. they moved while Skanderbeg was still alive. the Albanians in Ukraine moved after Skanderbeg died. when we adopted the term Shqiptare, hence why they call themselves Shqiptare.
Rouga (Alb. Street)... is different from Roga (Alb. Pay). Rougats (Alb. A person of the street, houligan, gang member). Rogats (does not exist in Alb. nor in "Greek")... so it can't possibly be what you're saying. But you may be told it means so by clergy, who crafted the modern history of Greece, in order to divert anything that reminds its population of being of neighbouring stock.
Read up here...
nytimes. com/2009/06/24/arts/design/24abroad.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2
Long live the Pelazgian-Illyrian-albanian RACE
OMG i just cant stop watching it , its so beautiful , all spirit all music all feelings is just i dont know i keep replaying it , i love it i love it i love it , and am so glad we can see the real albanian culture now , and one suggestion for the guy who is dancing U SHOULD OPEN A DANCING SCHOOL TEACHING JUST THIS KIND OF DANCE i just can picture an opening of olumpics in albania with this stuff , uf hothot
Yeah , all 150 years of it , it's Great man
@@Lion-rs2qy where u from again?
Greek folklore... what's the Albanian on this?
Po edhe vallja e Epirote çame e Osman Takes greke eshte😉😅
ILLYRIA ☝️🖤❤
KULTUR SHQIPTARE
But yes, the Arbereshe in greece are assimilated into greek population and no longer speak albanian... they are not albanians anymore. so I'm not trying to claim them. I don't know why you are discussing this. you are trying to tell me the arvanite always were greeks? no. they were originally Albanians that fled from albania to greece during ottoman war, just like albanians fled to italy and to ukraine.. even albanians in croatia... some use the word arbereshe, some use shqiptare.
@ktm066 give me the name of an ancient albanian philosopher, mathematician, or anything... and tell me where i can read his ancient texts
vasioanna
the Albanian language has only been spoken for 2500 years and for so many years it was not written
if you learned Albanian you would understand its antiquity
vasioanna
and you Greeks have a lot of ancient texts because you wrote history while Albanians made history
@MusicOfEpirus You still ignore history and talk about people in Hydra and Psara but before they got "brainwashed" they were among the ones who wanted to establish the modern country of Greece.
It doesn't mean they were albanian or arvanites because they could speak arvanitika (not albanian). In the southern part of FYROM there are about 100,000 greeks who don't even know a signle word of greek.
whats the name of the dance/music plssss? this is the only video on youtube i could find rgarding this type of dance. if u can provide more, pls do so thank u so much
It is sort of a military dance the origin is Turkish
Ρε καραγκιόζη έχεις ακούσει τουρκική πολεμική μουσική βλακα τι αρχαία ελληνικά και παπαριες
re vlaka arnaoutides einai ilithie
Alex Mardini
this is the dance of the albanians of macedonia skopje
Alex Mardini
ruclips.net/video/qqHQIfK-jQk/видео.html
did you read the article i sent you mixture of different tribes???
honestly for me is a great pleasure to talk with people blind (by some common propaganda and rumors)
as far I can see you don't seem to be such a person, and is all in your favor
people who are trying to convince you are not influenced by any propaganda and are not searching an identity , since they have a considerable one :) (you are not talking to sllavo macedonians )
@vasioanna the word mathematic explained :
mate = to measure, to scale
e = and
mate = to measure, to scale
mat-e-matik = The measuring and scaling.
and u surely know that the first mathematic subject was GEOMETRY :) ITS ABOUT MEASURING AND SCALING :)
I will answer to you with only one thing.
You call my country Greece. The Turkish call it Junanistan. The Chinese call my country ~xi~ la.
You know what each means?
Greece - Greek = the ancient land and greeks are the ancient ones
Junanistan = Land of the Ionians (because the Turks met the Ionian tribe first when they came in this area)
and the Chinese call my country with its greek name Hellas (Land of fire). Do you know why? because they have an ancient civilization too. So simple...
One thing i notice to all of you commenting is that you use words like stupid, hilarious and other characterizations. It is because you don't know what to say to convince me that i am wrong. You need to justify your thoughts, not characterize the other. I guess the word dialogue doesn't mean anything to you.
moreover it's stupid to think that the name Olimpia is originary from the little vilage since the name is present in many locations at that time ( I just remind you that Olypia is a mythic location : the house of gods so many villages and places were named like that (just like Apollonia ))
@vasioanna :D you CANT split it . thats the point. you just cant explain it .
& of course his name was always written in 'greek' letters oO because illyrian and greek were almost identical because they both delivered from the pelasgians !
Although you are wrong, tell me then what Phillipos (Phillipe) his father's name means...
very true... and the biggest of these fighters wree the albanians, this why Greece is the last theorcrtacial state in Europe, in every Balkanic state religion is a base sructure, besides the albanian nation, which is blood, language, costumes, folk culture, tribla laws etc etc, however i thank you a lot for your honesty
What is the name of this Zurla - Doli dance???
We call it "Valle me Tupan" (NOT Daouli/Daul)
That is an eastern word, much like most of Modern Greece.
Tupan = Tympan(um)
Valle me Tupan means "Wave dance with Drum"
Can you explain the word Alexander in Albanian?
I guess not... by the way what's the albanian word for music....since music is ancient to albanians they should have their own word....not music...
vasioanna
In Albanian, 'me zë' means 'with sound'. Now, it doesn't take a rocket science PhD to agree that sound is all that music has to give.
Aleksander = Born from a dream
Which also supports the story of the time of his conception. Olympia had a dream before she realized she was pregnant.
@topallia Just for your information, during Communism the teachers were obliged to send to the party (goverment) a list of the words that were not included at that time in the official albanian books. A teacher i know had made many lists of those words. After communism passed and she came to greece she found out that the words she was providing to the party were nothing but greek words. Her parents spoke a mixture of greek and albanian (obliged by communists). Check your ancestors
vasioanna
And does this teacher know that he himself (or she herself) provided those words to the party? Since you seem to know that teacher, it won't be difficult for you to mention her/his name. Or, perhaps you are just inventing things as you go!!??
cause the arvanite in greece and italy adopted the latin name of your country that romans used to call you while those in ucrania adopted the name that you call yourseves Shqiptare
bravo shum bukur
po keto vallet kush i kercen jugu apo veriu?????
veriu
typo on the above message, it should read:
turkish coffee is used in other countries too, eg in Spain but they don't call it spanish coffee, nor do Albanians call it albanian coffee! greeks are special - they are the "centre" of the world.
ANCIENT albanian dances???Hahahaha this is the best joke!This is GREEK music,although this man in the video dances like a CLOWN,because he's trying to dance something else of what this dance really is.
αυτος πρεπει να ειδε ελοκοπτερο, και τους δειχνει...
What's the name of this song? I've been searching for it quite some time.
Μάριος Παππάς vallja e pare tupana
Μάριος Παππάς
ruclips.net/video/qqHQIfK-jQk/видео.html
this is the dance of the albanians from macedonia skopje
@@princedoublehful Thanks bro! Quite similar to this one, isn't it? ruclips.net/video/EpnHuuhV1Ow/видео.html
Μάριος Παππάς it’s Odysseus song , the man , and His journey finding His people , the point is He does it His way and whenever He wants like in this video , stopping in the middle of it , crawling not falling , of high character that can drop very low , the high low , here is another version
ruclips.net/video/YyjVHdx_0-E/видео.html
(Odysseus was made based on the future man to come , from ancient prophecy apparently)
the dance could be performed with one man , but it’s always performed ‘His people holding Him’
Not at all sacrilegious. I love women who spread their legs :)
I think you've got the wrong idea about Albania my friend. Either way... please look up those peoples last names in the "Greek" Macedonian region.
You will probably not realize the meaning, but they do carry northen Albanian last names with -S in the end.
Dranitsaris (look up Drenicar means, and where Drenica is)
Hasiotis (look up what Hasiot means and where Hasi is)
Nisiotis (nwhere Nish is)
Also, what's rougatsia mean?? lol
MusicOfEpirus Rugova Region
a ka mundsi me tregu dikush ncilin vend vallzohet kshtu? is my favourite thing ever , just beautiful to see
Ne Gegëri, ne Dardani ne shqiptaret e Maqedonis.
you know the turkish coffee (how we call it in Albania) - in greece they call it greek coffee - tipical of greek behaviour! turkish coffee is used in other countries too, eg in Spain but they don't call it spanish coffee, nor do Albanians call it turkish coffee! greeks are special - they are the "centre" of the world.
coffee originated from Ethiopia.Ethiopians were cristian ortodox,( even now)and the ortodox Ethiopian church brougth the coffee in Greek Patriarchate of Konstantinopoli , in 15 century.
Got it?
@@Evagelopoulos862 bruv that’s not even relevant💀
@zincwad Since when you have literature?
@Mist9879 Piros was from Thessaly he was not from Epirus. Do you also dispute that the Thessalians were also Greeks?????
Give a greek word you use every day with « us » on thé word give give me on ancient gypsies !!
Another example are the aromanians or vlachs in pidus also living in fara therefore not asimilated with other population in ipirus region keapt their own language and traditions a lot of them are similar to the arvanites traditions but even with romanian goverment speanding a lot of oney ito schools and propaganda they never lost their greek idetity and during ww2 they were the first fightingagainst axis in the greek resistance.
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a small history exampe for you to understand the deference of place of origin an national identity are the vlachs living in thesaly, during ww1 and balkan wars prime minister venizelos was forced by english alies of greece to give to a part of the vlahs romanian nationality. None of them keapt that nationality but instead they call themselves greeks. Vlach is the name germanic tribes used to call the people that used latin dialects inside the borders of roman empire
O luje SHQIPE hajdeeee ooophaaa ta hangsha loqken ALBANIAN POWER
@NewGreekCulture The "rogatio" has nothing to do with the collection of taxes to be payed by the villagers to help the clergy to build churches or other buildings. The term is used in a legislative meaning only, and has to do with the legislative bills that the senators proposed in Senate. "Rroga" in albanian means 'service or salary', instead "roga" means "furrow"...
BRAVO
i madh fare....i'm joining you making the same question:"who the hell are today's greeks?"
Bano lehte *Made Light = Ballet & At leht = That Light (easy)
@Alban Jashari ne gegnishten thojm, bane at pun ma leht(shembell) ose bano(ë) ti leht pra shkurt ba lehte _gati si O i thojm (ë*)s arbere - arben-alBAN-o-i=All ell ill yll =yllban=Alban,per gjuhtaret sot usht shtir se per ata eshte ma lehte me fol Tosken sic e kan msu ne Shkoll etj por gegja u ma simple dhe ma shkurt sikur kur te folin Femit 🙃 Ps ba lehte vetem e kan jek ni Dy shkronja dhe u kry falsifikimi sikur te fjala QYSH thojn si usht Turqisht ☝️ Sic CIS QYS QYSH si me CIRLI = ILIRIC vetem e kan shkru mbrap ...se Gjuha atyvne vjen nga Gjuha jon dhe usht ni Produkt i besimitarve slavet e kan përzi me Latin Grek dhe tonen Gjuh me shumic bili kan munci si mujn me kan Illir te slavizuar si e kan ba ket pun ciril ilirik & me thot (d) cirili & method (mendimi jem)
pershembull fjala (UJ) si u ndodh??? Nga tingulli pikes kur te bjen ne Uj,ban Uj Uj uj ....
@Alban Jashari nga je vlla ?
@Alban Jashari ah oki 🙂un jam i komunes Viti'snga Gjilani ....
Ta uroj ni Dit te mir 👍✌✊
I think you are confused. this video has absolutely nothing to do with Caucasus Albania, those are the people that you are thinking of.. They didn't call themselves Albanians but it was called Albania by Romans Alb means mountanious in latin. mountanious land. The Caucasus is mountanious like the Balkan, which means mountain in turkic.
This is Ancient greek, shows todays Albanians from Balkans have similar culture to ancient greeks.
Well said. Greeks of today have no traditional connections with the ancient Greeks of the past.
Im proud to be Albanian because im proud of my ancestors who i know listened to the same style of music and danced similar steps as I do today.
thank you for this video
Yeah our culture does has roots in ancient greece. Even God in Albanian (zot) is very similar to the ancient greek god Zevs, and in byzantium. We were part of Byzantium as a people. But I disagree about the fustanella.. Albanian culture is also similar to celtic culture and some historians have noticed similarities between Albanian highlanders and scottish highlanders. the bagpipes are also very similar.
OK. I didn't know that... I thought the Arvanite in greece called themselves Arbereshe. but the greeks call them Arvanite, which was a word refering to Albanians in middle ages. I got this from google search. but I do know only one arvanite who said he is Albanian. it's the only Arvanite i ever met. he grew up without learning Albanian but he started learning and can speak very well. other than that I don't know arvanite... but I know Arbereshe and they are Albanians.
Good job... those kleftes like you and your grandpa Botsaris saved Greece from the TURKS.
MY highest respects to you!! :D
first of all arbanitia as we call it in greek is a place in albania not a nation, everyone in byzantium and otoman empire were usually speaking two languages at least one is the language that your parents teach and another is the language you speak in the place that you live, so the greeks living in pontos spoke turkish and an ancient greek dialect in today albania greeks that lived there since 800 bc (and i am sure you have seen the greek temples theatres and statues in your country)
I never said they have been forced to be something else. I said they are originate from albanians.. as I tried to explain to you. if you don't believe me you can google Arvanite, and see what they call themselves: and what they call their language: they call it Arberisht. this is Albanian word. as I explained to you.. Albanians in middle ages fled to many countries.. one of them greece and assimilated into greek community because of the same religion, orthodoxy. this is no problem. if they don't
The Qani trima song is Arvanite. they don't call themselves Arvanite in their language, they call themselves Arbereshe. the same as in italy, the same as Albanians called themselves. but some fled to greece, others to italy.. Albanians first fled to Italy. that land was given by the pope to Skanderbeg.
watch?v=-kV7KDpDKE0
Arbereshe song in italy
Name of the dance please?
Enes Mansur
ruclips.net/video/qqHQIfK-jQk/видео.html
Albanian dance of skopje today macedonia
Valle shume e bukur
Actually, today's Albanians have nothing to do with ancient Albania (in a different location), which was entirely eradicated as a people and a nation by the Muslims.
maybe you should see some documentaries of arbereshe in italy? albanian tv went there. they speak albanian and everything and even call themselves Albanians. Some of the biggest Albanian nationalists have been arbereshe. Arbereshe is what we used to call ourselves. Shqiptare means after the flag. Shqiponja means the eagle, the term is taken from the flag. the arbanites in ukraine call themselves Shqiptar... search up Shqiptaret ne Ukraine.
So who the hell are you fools to say they are not Albanians when they go infront of camera and say they are and even speak Albanian after 400 years in italy???? And they had a huge impact on Albanias independence in 1912,. and albanian national awakening, kosovo's uniciation with albania at that time, kosovo's independence in 2008, some of them came up with the Albanian alfabet in 1912 (google it). their national hero is also Skanderbeg and they use the same flag.
I never heard someone say you stole our flag. And national heroes? I don't know about that. Fustanella is actually originally used by Albanians. it was adopted by greeks after greece war of indepdence from Markos Botsaris and the souliotes (heros of the war) who were were Orthodox Christian Albanians. But allot of Arvanite are assimilated in greece. if they wanna be greek it's fine, if they wanna be albanian, it's fine. it's up to them it's not up to us to tell them what they feel.
and at the same time kolocotronis was calling the albanians that fighting for the sultan turkalvanous meaning turk albanian
most of the vlachs were greek slav and albanias that served in the roman empire and got themselves recognized as roman citizen, most of albanias however keapt their local tribe identity and prefered to be mercenaries instead