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There is actually a work-around to have multiple displays, its done with a "Display Link" adapter the Display Link driver. There are many videos on this. You're welcome. 😁
This is actually crazy. Its just dawned on me that today you can run full productions and mixing on a macbook AIR. Few years ago that was mostly a toy for like surfing the web and doing homework. The M1 chip had such a fast path from announcement to product, and such an advancement in technology that its hard to grasp the fact that we just made a major step forward in computing. I don't know if the M1 specs are much "better" than say ryzen, but the fact that apple can build the entire thing to be optimized for the chip is an incredible performance booster. I run PC now and wont probably change until maybe 2-3 generations if apple seems to be behaving and the value is still there.
Ryzen > M1
M1 is more powerful especially per watt than say an AMD Ryzen 5900HX... which would be it's price competitor.
However, compatibility and stability are still a mess for M1 macs. Hopefully in the future more devs support the M1X when that arrives.
If your specific program is built for M1 and performance well then I would say it is a cost effective performance beast, otherwise with any first gen product ... Wait for the M1X.
used to run logic on an 2014 i7 11" macbook air - up to 20ish channels no problem! after that it was pretty stuttery but you could still make do.
Using M1 Pro 8GB for FL Studio (over Parallels), i am so happy with it!
Do you run out of ram with big projects
@@musqitonebeats2129 not really, only with plugins that are still badly optimized.... so far only ozone 8
Did you assign 4gb ram to parallels? Also what is ur peak cpu performance?
Isn't FL 20.9 beta2 already a native Apple Silicon code?
@@Artek604 yes but still working better by using Parallels
I think I'm going to get a 24" iMac. The Macbook Air is an incredible machine though and it is good to know everything is running smoothly on M1.
Thank you for this bro! Definitely getting the MacBook Air M1 now. Good to know it’s well equipped for live performances 😍🙌
Gonna get this for my DJing live-streaming
Thank you so much Jon for the review!!! Thank you!!! ❤
What the MacBook Air M1 is bringing to the table is really big! Computer power and no noise of a fan! There are power hungry synthesizers like the ones by u-he, and I want to use lots of effects without having to worry about it. If the MacBook Air M1 can do that without even blinking: that's big! To think that this little laptop is the engine for all your productions: I'm speechless. - I'm a Windows user (just like that, no big reason), I never had Apple on my radar. Of course, the introduction of the iPhone was a supernova. But the MacBook Air M1 is the only Apple product I noticed in over ten years. Do you have 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD? That would be my choice. It's crazy to have all this computer power in a tiny MacBook. Like having a music studio on a stick. 😄 Ready to go, where ever you go. And affordable too!!! - The MacBook Air M1 is the only product that could bring me over to the Apple side. 🙂👍
That transition for the video editing part was flawless ;) Hope your singing is going along well :P
Thanks for the video, waiting for so long
I wanted to let you know your video and your video content are superb!
vielen dank für das video!🙏🏻 jetzt werde ich auf das M1X MB Air warten
hey Jon ! tnx this video
I have the same MBA and like it. What sucks are those Big Sur updates that keep safari crashing.
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Now I want to see your live set performance at work! 🤩
Hello Jon. Regarding CPU performance, how Ableton Live performs on the M1 compared to Logic (number of tracks, latency, etc…)?
Very similar
Ayyyyyy
I thought this is Satish Ray.
While the M1 MacBooks natively support just one monitor, the M1 Mac Mini does natively support up to two external monitors - one via the HDMI port and a second via USB-C.
It is now nearing October. How has your view changed?
Lol, every next day your studio looks closer to a spaceship D: OMG!. That set up with one cable is crazy!!!!
OMG Jon, you have all the equipment I have ever dreamed of. That's crazy looking at your Vlog, all those years 0.0
Too bad space doesn't exist.
I have the i9 macbook - it's fans can be heard in all my recordings! Super annoying
lol really? in the recordings? wow..I have the i7 and the fan is like a hardstyle white noise riser "Woooooooooooooooooooooooom"
@@mvricks90 LOL maybe we should sample it!
Display docks will allow for more video plugins (dpi, hdmi, vga, etc.)
Are you using an external SSD? If not, SSD wear may be a major issue. They do wear out in time (especially with heavy use like video editing in 4K). And then, you will have a doorstop.
Hey Jon, just discovered your channel. Great video! Answered the exact questions I had. One question outstanding, have you tried using music software/ DJ/performance software and stream video at the same time on the M1 Air? Assuming that you do streaming live.
Hey Jon great video! Have you tried the CalDigit TS3 Plus? I would recommend that to give you more ports.
Jon, nice video, really helpfull, do you know if native instruments works with m1??
Hi Jon! What adapter/usb hub for the Air would you suggest for music production purposes (small studio home recording)? thanks
I'm using a MacBook Pro M1 with bitwig and Ableton. It's way better than my 2017 Intel MacBook Pro. That old laptop is warped from getting super hot from the CPU; I can't even close the lid. Bitwig really pegs the CPU, but the M1 handles my projects and I can even bump up the oversampling in plugins that support it. It does get warm, but I have yet to hear the fan...even once.
How much ram and storage did you get in your MBP M1?
@@MaTTiiBeaTz hey, I got the 16GB/1TB config. I knew I needed 1TB from my previous MacBook, and it just didn't make sense to skimp on RAM given the price and my sense that I would be using the M1 for at least two years. The capabilities and performance with the M1 port of bitwig are simply excellent.
Apple launched the iPad Pro 2021 with the M1 chip inside and up to 16 GB of RAM. At WWDC in June next month, Apple will announce new OS and also new MacBook Pro’s with an even more powerful chip and also more RAM options. Finally, they will announce Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro coming to the new iPad Pro 2021 with M1. This will be a big game changer in the industry.
Out of curiosity, why?
@@nebucatz3751 Do you refer to the more powerful MacBook Pro or iPad Pro M1?
@@emiel333 The iPad.
How does it feel to be wrong?
I'm was never worried about the fans. As an artist you need fans. I'm kidding of course. But what worries me is software (which seems to run fine I hear) and not being able to connect two screens.
How do you get 60hz 4k off your monitors with out a direct hdmi to usb c cable? Macbook airs dont support hubs
How much SSD does it have?
Your studio starts to look so amazing. If you only had some great new speakers ;-)
Yup, 2 monitors is what keeps me too from buying it :)
I would like to have laptop under the desk and switch 2 pieces of 32" monitors on my desk for montage and recordings
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Hi! I'm also a composer/music producer and I'd like to know if with 256 gb SSD it will be enough for vst, etc. or how do you manage the storage? Thx! :)
Hey, don’t know if you have purchased anything else but ideally try to get the 512 gb version. If your budget doesn’t allow for it, no worries. You can either pay for iCloud to increase your cloud storage or get an external HDD
I would like to see a song being produced on it
Should I get m1 for ableton or a gaming laptop?
I hated how the new MacOS updates literally ruined battery life. Returned it. Excellent Hardware but the OS and all the M1 related SW things suck big time still.
" its basically an Ipad with a display" ? :D 9:29
Q: I thought you wanted the buy the Kii Audio Three? What drove you to ATC?
Can you say how much tracks can be done in logic in the 8gb variant plss
Are you having any trouble running your midi boards on the M1?
no
HI Jon hope your well I haven't been here for a while been feeling a it down about the music industry it seems that you have to spend tons of money to promote a track and Spotify doesn't seem to be helping their artists so I am taking a few weeks out but il push on I love producing I need to not think to seriously about all the marketing crap .
2:55 Wait, does every plugin (serum, sylenth1, waves, soundtoys, etc.) work under Rosetta? Just starting your DAW through Rosetta and every vst works fine?
yes I works for me 100%
@@Jonsine that's awesome
You bought it six months ago...why would it not still be good? 🤷🏻♂
Doesnt the macbook air M1 only have 8GB of RAM tho? That seems problematic.
There are 2 options for RAM for the MacBook Air, the 8GB version and the 16GB version
Do you have 8 or 16 gigs?
will komplete kontroll s88 mk2 work with m1pro? anyones knows? my m1pro is running Komplete control software.
Does yours have the 8gb ram?
Planning to buy the new 24 inch iMac with 8 core cpu and 7 core gpu
Is it enough to make music? I mean I will be upgrading the ram and storage.
Can u please help
You can not upgrade the new 24 inch imac with M1 chip. What specs you buy that is what you will have forever, because the RAM and SSD is on the M1 chip and is not upgradable
@@hrisostomzanet9793 I meant I will be upgrading the ram and storage while buying itself. Just wanted to if 7 core gpu is that of a big issue.
Is it 8gb ram or 16gb?
Brother, will M1 air 8GB 25GB ssd version with an external Samsung T5 500GB ssd be good for music production like Recording, making beats, music, etc?
is there any heating issues in music production and video editing?
also If I use a Usb c hub will my audio interface and midi keyboard work fine?
I would recommend getting the 512gb of ssd if you would like to keep all your files on the laptop.
But that would also work. If your mostly on the go the 512 would be nice
@@andrew23734 okay
Naissss
is this the 8 GB version?
16
Hi! Do you have 8 Gb RAM?
16
appreciate it but that was over dramatic at the beginning
I'm pretty sure Jon picked the MacBook Air so he can set it on top of his Ableton Push 2.
Lol ::cringe::
Next up he will hold it by the top screen part only just to troll the RUclipss. Haha.
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I own a MacBook pro with an M1 chip and it has never let me down so far after almost half a year. I'd say its biggest drawback personally is that when the SSD fails, you cannot replace it whereas most laptops have this feature. It shouldn't fail because it's solid-state but if you prefer to have control over what you can change within the MacBook, I wouldn't recommend it. I know this is something Apple has been doing for years but I thought I'd mention it in case. Other than that, it's super powerful and I've run over 200 tracks in logic and it works just fine.
You actually can replace the SSD when it fails! With some soldering. And it works
What about the plugins you are running and the latency? Are you running at 64ms cuz that’s what I’d need to record for, and how cpu extensive are the plugins you are using or are they stock? I’m looking to get the m1 8 or 16gb and I use fl studio with waves plugins and I’m moving to UAD soon, want to make the right laptop purchase
@@reallnikka123 Should work no issue with 64ms in a project. However, the more plugins and midi data you have in your project, the higher your buffer will need to be. You can always consoidate tracks to save CPU when needed. Generally though, you shouldn't have any issues. I tend to use more paid plugins than not. It obviously depends how the plugin performs. Some plugins are more cpu intensive than others. Luckily waves plugins are now supported on m1 chips so upgrading to v13 is no issue. Make sure all your other plugins are compatible with the new chip because some sacrifices may have to be made.
pfc you cant xD @@har_space4892
So now that you have Ableton and Push, I'm curious, are you tempted to produce some music in Ableton?
No
Did you find the same usage of the RAM and CPU for FL Studio and Ableton?
Moving from PC to M1 this week.
enjoy
Wow this thing is something else!!!
@@ALTSProductions is your Windows PC a laptop or a desktop?
PC is Laptop... have to keep it mobile.
Do you have 8 or 16GB RAM? Cool video ✌🏼
Hello Jon! Check RUclips and you will find how to connect up to 6 monitors/projectors to the Macbook air M1 😃
Yes: display link. Look it up. It's not ideal, but it works.
@@briancase6180 Display link has caused me horrible problems for years, I bought an Akai MPC that used it and it was nothing but trouble, since then years later my Mac is still bugged by that and tried to find USB displays when I boot up, it really caused problems and the quality was terrible too, I would stay away from display link
For a Second Screen at the MacBook Air M1 you need a DisplayLink USB C adaptor.
Do vyou have the 8GB ram? Is it equivalent to something like 16GB on an intel mac or how does it work going from a maxed out ram intel to one with very little?
MacBook Air M1 8gb is enough for music production and mixing ????
Thanks for the recommendation. How much ram do you have in your macbook air?
I run ABLETON and waiting for the M2 generation MacBook Pro.
Same situation but think I am going to go M1. Got a feeling Apple is selling these cheap to get developers on board... M2 will cost lots more... plus soon you will see plugins that only run on the M1 architecture... just my thought process.
Next month, in June, Apple will announce a more powerful MacBook Pro with Apple Silicon. The event is called WWDC.
Thank you! Great to know that Logic works well on the Air. I’m also looking to put Serato on it too for my gigs, and I’d never would have done either on the previous Air. I hope to get the laptop next week, so this video was super helpful.
@Velanche, how has the Serato worked for you on the M1 MB Air so far? I'm considering it for my DJing.
@@phdjdoug4899 I’ve decided to hold off on the M1 Air for now, and decided instead to get an M1 iPad Pro. I’ll use my older MBP for DJing, so won’t be following up on that for awhile. Hopefully, someone else can answer that for you!
2 questions: How the **** did they make a MacBook AIR so fast, and would it survive processing dubstep/sound design heavy songs? *cough* Au5
I would also like to know the answer to this, but I don’t have my hopes up that he will answer :/
I’ll let u know if I somehow get my hands on one.
@@acupuncturmusic Likewise! There’s a good chance I’ll be buying an MBA in the next few weeks in preparation for the upcoming semester, and I will try to remember to report back 🖖🏼
Thanks bro
i got mine right after we had a chat on insta and what i have to say is that i can bring it to its limits when running OBS with 2 camlinks, an interface, a 4k display and ableton with 100+ tracks + plugins. Its heating up and within 10 mins of recording its useless. Also i habe troubles with the ports not connecting to camlinks, displays and SSDs from time to time. The rest is totally fine 😎🥺
obs is very demanding. still the fasted mobile Mac ever
@@Jonsine got any other recommendations for screen & audio multitrack capture other than OBS? Yeah it is indeed!
@@akela_music Has this changed recently or have you moved to the M1 Pro/Max chip?
@@tonylancer7367 still rockin the air m1 for music production ✌️ im useing ableton with the updated m1 comp. and its working like a charm
@@akela_music Nice! Do you have 8 GB or 16GB RAM on yours? Looking to get one for cheap to carry me through.
Pls HACKINTOSH and make a video
how MacBook Pro m2 doing on Ableton performance wise?
I echo with on the design and frame.
How many gb of ram this one?
Nice teaching 🤝
I would NOT recommend using a Macbook Air to do live visuals with (at real shows, not just practice). The 13" Pro and Air only has integrated graphics, it doesn't have discrete graphics card. While music production might not make your laptop thermal throttle, live visuals is HEAVY on GPU. More than video editing even. You have multiple layers of 1080p or 4K visuals being rendered at the same time with live fx being applied. Live Visuals are some of the most taxing on computer you can do. If your plan is to run your music AND visuals off the same computer you are going to get into problems fast. It's much safer to have a separate computer JUST for visuals, that way if visuals freeze up, at least the music can still keep playing.
do you have the 16gb version?
yes
You finished the track… you take it to the car 😡🤬🤛🏼🤛🏼🤛🏼
Thanks Jon, was hoping for an update and here it is 🙏
How do you get around the TINY amount of storage in the air?
You can buy 1tb or 2tb drive, lol
@@nazar_midi If you're Bill Gates lol.
@@Skrenja Bill Gates? 😂😂 a 13 inch M1 MacBook Pro 16gb, 1tb is 1,649 or 137 a month. It’s not cheap by any means but Bill Gates? That monster synth he is sitting it on might be though. 😂😂😂
could you possibly make a video on which plugins do and don't work as of today in Logic? :) ❤️
I may have a problem with mine! Running only 4 tracks in Logic as wav 24bit @ 44khz, the moment iI insert chroma verb the Core assigned to that Channel makes my run into a CPU overload. Cannot run more than 4 instances of Omnisphere before getting system overload. Inserting any PA alliance on the master bus eat up Cpu like crazy. The behavior is as follows: the moment I press play the cpu meter spikes to max/ or close to max and holds for about 4 secs then slowly falls down to 15% or so...I’ve been on Mac and Logic for almost 10 years and never had such massive problems. It is not usable for me . Specs: M1 Air -16 RAM, 512Ssd. Running Logic under Rosetta with all 8 cores enabled. Any help or feedback would be greatly appreciated...
Is it causing any noticeable issues other then the cpu meters? I have the m1 MacBook pro, air and mini and its seems pretty universal between them that the cpu meters in logic and ableton don't accurately reflect the performance. For example in ableton if I load 1 version of omnisphere the cpu meter (in ableton) spikes past 100 but I can still add 15+ more instances of Omnisphere with no issue.
@@sticauti it pops up with a prompt saying CPU overload. I have tried all buffer sizes...I have saved the projects both in the internal drive and on the external drive trying to see if it makes any difference. no luck. Tried both with Arturia Audiofuse and UAD Apollo Twin X . Same spikes...
May be you know or may be no, but you can play 8 instruments with one instance of Omnisphere or do you use 24 instruments with omnisphere(4*8=24)?
@@Den-il3zm That’s is correct. However, even using only native plugins still getting the low performance. I assumed that running under Rosetta things won’t be much different than before in my old iMac 2017. The old iMac was running easily 60-80 tracks with intensive processing.
Can you recomend free virtual instruments compatible with m1 macs please? Thanks!
Hello there, I’m convinced I’m getting myself the MBA M1. Could you or anyone tell me: I’m on a budget and was wondering what GB I’ll need. I won’t be using the laptop intensely. I’ll be using it to browse the web and try and create some music with my guitar. I’m a total newb and I’m just testing the waters with creating music. I have 2TB of ICloud storage that I use on my iPhone, can I share that with my laptop? And will it be enough?
Im going to Currys and a few other laptop stores to ask the workers all these questions but I’m not doing that for a few days and I’m impatient and want to know sooner lol.
8gb is just fine, 16gb is ideal
@@tt_1337 thank you for replying! I’ve only just seen this. I bought my MBA M1 around 2 weeks ago and love it! Went for the 16gb too
Does the MacBook Air support thunderbolt 4? If so you could hook up more displays... Oh wait... Apple thunderbolt display out is crippled (unless you are using apple displays.)
9:29 it's basically an iPad with a display :D Do you have an iPad without a display?
For a better camera, they need thicker housing. Or newer technology.
Who knows, maybe the next Macbook Air will NOT be fan less? Maybe an M2 processor will require a fan.
If you need a new Mac for Logic now, just get this one. It is plenty powerful.
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I got the I7 pro last summer for about 3k with decent specs. it has this little crack where potato chips leftovers and dust get stuck between the screen and that pads lol.This little shelf that is impossible to clean without vacuuming it. Even that is pretty hard. The battery is a huge disappointment, it runs out so quickly I feel like I am always connected to a power cable. The Touch Bar is pretty useless and I would assume also drains power. In terms of processing its another world than my previous old MacBook Air but it really struggles with system overload in the "last" phases in Logic with 70-100+ tracks in the mix down. That was a bit disappointing honestly. It gets heated af, and the fan sounds like a 737. So I might think of this one when they come with new versions.
If you can live wirh 1080p and 30fps you may use an old AppleTV and use a third Display via Airplay. Which is not that bad for Office/Demo use. (Of course no gameplay)
How much ram and storage has your model? I need to upgrade my old Macbook Pro this year (I have a 2012 model, fully upgraded to 16GB of ram and 1TB of ssd storage and still going strong, but it doesn't support Big Sur), I need a laptop for "general productivity" (I have a Windows desktop as daw), but I wouldn't mind using it for music stuffs, too (like the Moog Model 15 app or to run Traktor occasionally).
I'm a bit worried especially by the 8GB amount of the basic models (less by the built in storage, as I can manage with an external ssd).
Man, i wish i had more money for gear ect. I make music on garageband pretty well so far. Might be worth investing in.
how are the 3rd party plugins working? I have a 2018 Macbook pro and I had to remove Big Sur because plugins were not working.
please help. i have macbook m1. I want to know if it is possible to install ableton and slate digital plugins on an external ssd drive and record without latency? or recommends me to have it on the disk of the mac.
finally someone that mentions the ports, idk why most videos think that the only thing being used for music production is the damn DAW.
Macs are notorious for not working with 3rd party video switchers and splitters due to the HDCP.
I think you can use two 4K external displays with a thunderbolt hub (OWC)
Mac book 1 day later: is it still better?