The Jaguar may not have been the best, nor the most glamorous, plane ever made. But I have fond memories of seeing them here in northern Norway, operating out of Bardufoss and training in winter conditions for years back in the 1980s-1990s. I loved seeing them take off in full afterburner. The Jaguar had a very distinct blue/white afterburner flame, and a suprisingly slow acceleration despite the burner going. Jaguars and Harriers were a *very* common sight back then. Also, quite a few Phantoms too... at least back in the day. I miss them :)
Served with 8 Squadron at Thumrait in late 70s. When you walked out of the hanger you looked left and right checking for low flying aircraft. And before the days of shades on the line, a might warm.
One of my earliest memories and 'holy crap! I love planes' moments was the air tattoo at RAF Locking some three facades ago (😱) when a Jaguar came past, slower than my nan could walk, practically stood on it's tail. Couldn't make out how it didn't fall out the sky. Propped up on sheer noise.
I met the RAFO base commander in the mess at Masirah and he spoke Aberdeen English from his Jaguar days at Lossiemouth. Absolutely fantastic people who were very tolerant and have a great sense of humor. I heard they fly Typhoons now at RAFO Adam.
Enjoyed that again. Interesting how all the various aircrew interviewed have very different careers, even when they have nominally similar jobs, such as FJ pilot.
I spent a lot of time on 226 ocu and 16sqn as a squipper. (Then from 2000 at Colt ) Cant remember the % but Guys would drop out of the course pretty constantly ! Jags where tough cats to tame! It always amazed me when they went solo after just 4-5 twin stick trips. Great days.
It's a rare thing for a civilian to get a flight in any combat jet. It used to be more common and people might sneak on rides with friends of family who were in the military. I've known two people who DID get rides. I had a 7th/8th grade science teacher who got a ride in an F-15 (at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base?) with a sibling or friend. Knew another guy in college who was a biology lab TA who got to ride supersonic and low level in an Italian Air Force Tornado (equivalent of the UK Tornado GR1 at the time). Self-correction: I knew a THIRD guy who rode in a fighter/fighter-bomber. He was in Boy Scouts or Cub Scouts and claimed to have gotten a ride in an F-4 (Air National Guard plane? They had more Phantoms in service than US active duty military in the mid-, late-1980s!) in the 1980s. I don't know about that personally but it's likely. His father was in the US Navy for a long while and they still had Phantoms flying in the US services through the early 1990s in combat. Heh -- shows my age! (The US Navy discontinued frontline operational use in 1986, deactivated reserve wings in 1987 but continued to use the F-4 for experimental projects and "target practice" through the early 2000s until roughly the same period the F-14 was retired.) Today, in the US, you can just about forget about getting a joy ride unless you're a journalist (usually a photographer) doing supportive/complimentary PR work for a military publication. You have to pass physicals and do survival training and know the ejection procedures before they let you fly. It goes without saying you're not going to get a ride if you don't have a security clearance. They've gotten much more stringent with security since 9/11. A bit over 10 years ago, the USAF caught hell for letting a Congressman fly in an F-15. He hadn't done any of the survival courses I talked about and certainly couldn't pass the physicals in his condition. The guy was way overweight! He was over the weight limit for the ejection seat and if that plane had a mechanical issue and he and the pilot needed to punch out, as hazardous as ejection is under normal circumstances it would have probably been lethal for that Congressman.
Here in France they tell me some pilots flew so low in the desert that they left marks on the dunes with the bottom fin and that pissed off maintenance. They also told me that it would not clim on full fuel and one engine...
Great to watch these, if only similar interviews were available in 1990... Definitely have him back on if he's available, there's a lot more there reading between the lines. Would like to understand his "...or, God forbid, the Harrier!" comment at 25:50.
Whilst the Jaguar was seen as a competent it's actual record in combat is excellent. A case of specialist crews and an aircraft designed with specific roles winning over allegedly better aircraft.
Excellent video. These guys are the real deal who have the proper qualities to fly fast jets. It makes me sad and angry to think the RAF are now being forced to go down the "woke" and "diverse" approach to recruitment. I know who I'd rather have at the controls and who I'd trust with their abilities, not their profile.
I'm missing at least 50% of the initialisms he spoke. Would of liked to have heard more about the Jag's qualities. Why does he dislike the Harrier, hehee?
30:26, I'm thinking, I recognise that name....then it clicks that I'm flying an F18 in DCS out of Khasab most evenings, across to Iran, some air combat against them, bombs and rockets against some camps, dodge SAM's on the way back, A2A refuel and back to Khasab.
Anyone on here know what T2 jags flew from from coltishal from 1978 onwards my father flew in one from 78 onwards I’ve narrowed it down between XX144 and XX829 would just like to get pics of the actual aircraft the old boy flew in thanks in advance
So, 120 hrs on Bulldogs, 120 on Tucanos, how many on Hawks and then how many on Jags or whatever aircraft you're assigned to? Also how many ground hrs from zero to frontline?
just noticed the jaguar in the video is the very aircraft my father flew in from RAF Coltishall in 1978 when he was part of 54 squadron! XX829
The Jaguar may not have been the best, nor the most glamorous, plane ever made. But I have fond memories of seeing them here in northern Norway, operating out of Bardufoss and training in winter conditions for years back in the 1980s-1990s. I loved seeing them take off in full afterburner. The Jaguar had a very distinct blue/white afterburner flame, and a suprisingly slow acceleration despite the burner going.
Jaguars and Harriers were a *very* common sight back then. Also, quite a few Phantoms too... at least back in the day.
I miss them :)
Served with 8 Squadron at Thumrait in late 70s. When you walked out of the hanger you looked left and right checking for low flying aircraft. And before the days of shades on the line, a might warm.
wonderful stories...much respect for aviators who live so close to the ground!
Love it. I just love the way these guys describe what went on in the day. Awesome
Excellent stuff, love these interviews. Oh to be young again and have the brains to do this job.
Cheers Clive!
I like this guy, he has a good sense of humour and excellent outlook! I could spend an hour or 2 in a bar listening to him!
The Fuzz he does indeed. Hopefully I will be going flying with him soon in his Autogyro, which will be turned into a video.
Make sure you take your camera buddy!
One of my earliest memories and 'holy crap! I love planes' moments was the air tattoo at RAF Locking some three facades ago (😱) when a Jaguar came past, slower than my nan could walk, practically stood on it's tail.
Couldn't make out how it didn't fall out the sky. Propped up on sheer noise.
I met the RAFO base commander in the mess at Masirah and he spoke Aberdeen English from his Jaguar days at Lossiemouth. Absolutely fantastic people who were very tolerant and have a great sense of humor. I heard they fly Typhoons now at RAFO Adam.
Enjoyed that again. Interesting how all the various aircrew interviewed have very different careers, even when they have nominally similar jobs, such as FJ pilot.
Glad you enjoyed it , Peter. Likewise, its brilliant listening to their stories as everyone has a different tale to tell.
I spent a lot of time on 226 ocu and 16sqn as a squipper. (Then from 2000 at Colt ) Cant remember the % but Guys would drop out of the course pretty constantly ! Jags where tough cats to tame! It always amazed me when they went solo after just 4-5 twin stick trips. Great days.
A beautiful aircraft, my favorite.
It's a rare thing for a civilian to get a flight in any combat jet.
It used to be more common and people might sneak on rides with friends of family who were in the military.
I've known two people who DID get rides.
I had a 7th/8th grade science teacher who got a ride in an F-15 (at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base?) with a sibling or friend. Knew another guy in college who was a biology lab TA who got to ride supersonic and low level in an Italian Air Force Tornado (equivalent of the UK Tornado GR1 at the time).
Self-correction: I knew a THIRD guy who rode in a fighter/fighter-bomber. He was in Boy Scouts or Cub Scouts and claimed to have gotten a ride in an F-4 (Air National Guard plane? They had more Phantoms in service than US active duty military in the mid-, late-1980s!) in the 1980s. I don't know about that personally but it's likely. His father was in the US Navy for a long while and they still had Phantoms flying in the US services through the early 1990s in combat. Heh -- shows my age!
(The US Navy discontinued frontline operational use in 1986, deactivated reserve wings in 1987 but continued to use the F-4 for experimental projects and "target practice" through the early 2000s until roughly the same period the F-14 was retired.)
Today, in the US, you can just about forget about getting a joy ride unless you're a journalist (usually a photographer) doing supportive/complimentary PR work for a military publication. You have to pass physicals and do survival training and know the ejection procedures before they let you fly. It goes without saying you're not going to get a ride if you don't have a security clearance.
They've gotten much more stringent with security since 9/11.
A bit over 10 years ago, the USAF caught hell for letting a Congressman fly in an F-15. He hadn't done any of the survival courses I talked about and certainly couldn't pass the physicals in his condition. The guy was way overweight! He was over the weight limit for the ejection seat and if that plane had a mechanical issue and he and the pilot needed to punch out, as hazardous as ejection is under normal circumstances it would have probably been lethal for that Congressman.
I know enlisted folk in the air force and navy do get incentive rides
Another winner. Very Interesting - somebody needs to do a "Crab" speak book for all acronyms.
Great idea.
Awesome, just awesome.
Great interview again confirming that Flying for a living is the best job 😎👍🏻
+ZD433 Thanks. I agree with you on that one!
Here in France they tell me some pilots flew so low in the desert that they left marks on the dunes with the bottom fin and that pissed off maintenance. They also told me that it would not clim on full fuel and one engine...
Very good yet again!
Nathan Dawson thanks Nathan!
Another great interview. I wonder if he was sad to see the Jag leave RAF service.
+Roystone Szweda Cheers.
Great to watch these, if only similar interviews were available in 1990... Definitely have him back on if he's available, there's a lot more there reading between the lines. Would like to understand his "...or, God forbid, the Harrier!" comment at 25:50.
I would happily have Kip back on the show. I am hoping to work with him sometime this year on something a tad different.
Inter aircraft rivalry. All part of being in the armed forces. We all think our particular aeroplane is better.
Whilst the Jaguar was seen as a competent it's actual record in combat is excellent. A case of specialist crews and an aircraft designed with specific roles winning over allegedly better aircraft.
Excellent video. These guys are the real deal who have the proper qualities to fly fast jets. It makes me sad and angry to think the RAF are now being forced to go down the "woke" and "diverse" approach to recruitment.
I know who I'd rather have at the controls and who I'd trust with their abilities, not their profile.
How is the stick used in a game of British Bulldog? It was a stick free game when I was a kid.
I'm not sure, it might be a Jag thing!
One more remark like that and your on report Lister!
KIP!!!!!
Only a true madlad wears a dress shirt inside a hoodie
Fantastic Interview, thorughly enjoyed. Trev
Great stuff!
By F.2 and F.3 he means the Air Defence Variant of the Panavia 200 (PA-200) Tornado.
stimulating on the use of language to describe experience
I'm missing at least 50% of the initialisms he spoke. Would of liked to have heard more about the Jag's qualities. Why does he dislike the Harrier, hehee?
Am I right in thinking Kip's dad is Stuart Morton and his mum Polly?
20:46 HUD cripple - Appears to be a pilot who does everything in his heads up display and almost cannot function without it.
Awesome vid and I loved the Jag.
TechGaming45 Thanks for watching
30:26, I'm thinking, I recognise that name....then it clicks that I'm flying an F18 in DCS out of Khasab most evenings, across to Iran, some air combat against them, bombs and rockets against some camps, dodge SAM's on the way back, A2A refuel and back to Khasab.
Anyone on here know what T2 jags flew from from coltishal from 1978 onwards my father flew in one from 78 onwards I’ve narrowed it down between XX144 and XX829 would just like to get pics of the actual aircraft the old boy flew in thanks in advance
Another interesting video, thank you 👍
So, 120 hrs on Bulldogs, 120 on Tucanos, how many on Hawks and then how many on Jags or whatever aircraft you're assigned to? Also how many ground hrs from zero to frontline?
Is someone knows what is exactly the type of jaguar that use today the Air Force Of Ecuador 💠👈🇪🇨 ....🌎📝
25m15, jumped out of the couch cause i thought my car alarm went off
😂
What is a T-Bird? The abbreviations need to be explained.
It is the two-seat trainer version.
it means training ,two seat, twin stick, depends on who you talk too
I see, a 'training bird' Got it. Thanks:-)
I suppose it should have been obvious to me but apparently not! :-)
@@Aircrewinterview Even though I did get T-Bird there was too much lingo, abbreviations, slang. Not cool.
Link to his low flying video?
Well told experiences. Jaguar didn't sound that great a plane.
too many TLA's
Sounds like the jag was shit jet
It was a great aircraft. So underrated by those that had never been on it.