Imagine being part of the cleanup squads. You see holes in soldiers temples when you know the enemy doesn't use guns. You get to see the thousand yard stares and the cries of 18 year old boys. You have to clean the blood and shove corpses into body bags, clean out the insides of vehicles. What a horror...
Met a WW2 veteran, British tank engineer served in north Africa. Had to get damaged vehicles ready for the next crew, including cleaning them out. He never had bacon again due to the smell.
As I recall from the book, the idea wasn't bad, as you narrate, but they tried to fight like they were dealing with a Biohazard rather than zombies. That's what killed them-they should never have made a stand like this, the zombies would always push through by sheer weight of numbers. This is an excellent example of why-and the saddest part is, realising all is lost and there's no escape? The soldier shoots himself in the head rather than join the walking dead...
So this actually taken from the audiobook courtesy of mark hamil. I think my favorite part is how his character mentions he got flash banged. Some idiot tossed a flash bang worse some idiot was issued a flash bang to fight the undead. I wish he figured out how to have the Comanche bit but as I understand armas is finicky at best and irritating at worst.
@@Cowboycomando54 Id be willing to bet that in the complete chaos of the world falling apart around them, logistical concerns like that flew right out the window. It became all about looking pretty and mean for the cameras.
Not always. It's a bit immersion breaking to hear 'the lz is taking small arms fire', or 'enemy troops have breached the evac point' when there's no actual incoming fire or enemy "troops" lol. I could go on with a list of small nitpicks on this video, but there'd be no point.
@@TheMasterGamer64 There is a lot of small problems with this video lol. This was my first attempt at a machinina. My upcoming full-length film will be much more immersive and dynamic.
Yea I’d love to say that we wouldn’t react like this either in real life. Except there’s always those officers and senior NCOs who do things the entirely stupid or hardest possible way because it’s “text book” or the “the way we were told to do it”.
@@itsuk1_1 That’s not the only factor with this type of enemy. It feels no pain, and cannot die by normal means (doesn’t need lungs, a heart, not even fucking blood). Not only that, but the psychological exhaustion can take its toll (you’re shooting people who have their guts hanging out and their limbs ripped off, but still keep going).
That was truly brilliant! I've read the book, listened to the Audiobook but this really does it justice. Please Please Please make the rest of WWZ if you can. The movie sucked and should have been a tv series with each part of the book a seperate episode.
Let me add a strong complete agreement to everything you said. I said almost the exact thing to my wife after watching that God awful movie. The book lends itself perfectly to an episodic series format. Production costs would be high, but done right with Max (and maybe Scorsese?) Involved, it would be a huge hit dwarfing the Walking Dead. Please to the powers that be make this happen.
Movie was awesome, don't get why people dislike it when it seems to actually make sense that fast moving zombies would take over, then slow moving zombies
@@SquidCena one of the movie plot point is that the zombie purposely ignore diseased humans. But how do the infected tell them apart? Sure they probably say that sick people gives off certain smell to the zombies but broken leg and blindness? Also why should the virus care when the method of attack is pouncing and biting.
I remember when I read this part, the soldier speaking talks about the canister rounds that the M1's had. They were devastatingly effective, but each tank only had like 4 of em. The guys in charge killed EVERYONE at Yonkers, one of the big reasons they adopt massive changes later on. Edit: not to mention the assholes in charge authorized a fuel-air bomb drop that did NOTHING.
Granted, they had no idea what they were really dealing with. They were still under the impression these were animate humans infected with Rabies Virus, not undead.
It didnt do nothing. The troops, jets, tanks, artillery etc at Yonkers killed tens of thousands of zombies. It just wasnt enough because there were about five million zombies. They only lost because their heavy weapon systems ran out of ammo and the troops paniced at the end.
US losses: 1 apache (some army aviation dude went haywire and decided to use his bird as zed lawn mower) A company's worth of men Several officers Morale Zack: A tickle to their number
@jessicaregina1956 it's not BS when you're having to take out the brain stem. Yea you're shattering the horde with that massive DU round but now you have DU plastered over the end zone with a bunch of heads that can still bite and infect a human. That's a HUGE clean up zone.
You know, when you see abandoned cities and streets filled with rusting military equipment in zombie games and TV shows, wondering how the hell did the military get overrun? This is how. The battle of Yonkers perfectly details how it all happens. And it's hard to imagine otherwise after reading this part..
People always like this would never happen like this it would imagine being in a soldier in this battle your fight nycs entire population imagine your fighting and your squadmqte just gets eaten right in front of you this is what movies and tv need to go depict more
well sure, except most TV shows, games and novelizations about this scenario either don't understand just how physically destructive military munitions are to the human body (and by extension how the human body works), or elect to ignore it to sell the story... and it shows, painfully so. I saw like 6 M2s in that lineup, and there were bradleys with their bushmaster chainguns on the line. that kind of firepower wouldn't be "dropping zeds" it would be making Zed soup by the truckload with each burst. and their description of bombs and artillery being ineffective because zombies aren't affected by pressure? do they not understand how that level of explosive pressure liquefies muscle mass and pulverizes bone into gravel? okay I buy the bushmasters and M2s not "killing" them effectively, because you gotta destroy the brain, but you're still rendering hundreds of zeds as "no longer an immediate threat" at a rate of 3,600 zeds a minute, 7,200 if you account for collateral from overpenetration. That's JUST from the 6 M2 machine guns based on their rate of fire. with the bradley bushmaster, you would be adding 3,000 to that pile, and that's just a rough estimate because that 25mm fucks and I'm not sure how much collateral you'd get out of chucking 25mm anti-personell rounds at a wall of bodies. if they utilized cannister shot on those abrams, or high explosive, again, probably not killing anything but it sure as shit is rendering chunks of zeds as "not an immediate threat" with each volley. "buh buh the head isn't dead it can still move" again another thing that annoys the shit out of me in zombie stuff if the muscles are shredded and the bones are a jigsaw puzzle, that zed isn't going anywhere and you can focus on the rest of the horde. God I hope this trope dies. it irritates the shit out of me when they describe how "ineffective" our weapons are when anyone with an inkling of understanding of how brutal our weapons get and what they do to the body, and more than two braincells to rub together knows that that statement is bullshit. "ineffective at killing zed" my left nut. the TACTICS were bad, not our weapons. They needed to stick to their guns and say, "Our weapons were very effective at killing zed by the thousands, but it went FUBAR because we treated Zed like a traditional enemy we could route instead of the rolling tide of mindless bodies it actually was. There were just too many to kill enough of them before they overran our position. The operation was going to fail no matter how much firepower we had due to the tactics we used." That to me is a more convincing reason and doesn't ruin my suspension of disbelief, which, oddly enough they even mention as part of why Yonkers went down like it did. if they doubled down on tactics and doctrine being the reason why militaries fell to the zeds, then I'd have infinitely less to gripe about, hell I'd even come to agreeing with some of these scenarios (Like Yonkers). but to say our weapons weren't effective drives me up the wall from the ignorance.
@@ronnielogan1984I’d still argue this would at very least be unlikely to happen for the us military anyway. One it would take a superb level of incompetence to let things get to the point where you have severely outnumbered troops not supported by artillery, Air Force, and ISR. Two. They’re fucking zombies. They ain’t smart and they are just walking slowly, the only way they could possible get surrounded and overrun is if the military somehow didn’t have any tactical awareness of the combat zone which just takes us back to point one.
This is awesome man, well done. Makes me feel sad we had a high production film of this book and yet this battle was cut out, arguably some of the best zombie fiction written.
@@imgvillasrc1608 Yeah, they made the mistake of hiring an A-lister like Brad Pitt as the lead role and therefore had to rewrite the entire script around his character. The result was no Yonkers, no Hope and a generic zombie story that only shares the name with its source material.
Huh, something that I imagine Max Brooks didn't think of at the time is that these guys would probably have been National Guardsmen and Army Reservists. Maybe a few Regulars at home on Training shit but, majority Guardsmen and Reservists.
In the book these were all Army Regulars. 1st Infantry Division if I remember correctly. By this point the outbreak was about two months old and the regular military had been deployed state side.
Yeah, Max Brooks' universe, the Great Panic had already set in and the National Guard/Reserves were already stretched to the breaking point. The Active units were thus moved in to major population centers to assist. Of course, all it was was just putting more meat into the zombie grinder.
This is just spectacular and accurate to the source material. Can't wait for the battle of hope or even the insane battle underneath the paris catacombs.
@@starset4life175 A show that's something like the walking dead but instead of focusing on a group of survivors in one part of the nation it focuses on characters that experience the events the book describes
Eh, not really. Even if the defenses and "netrocentric hyperwar" were completely unnecessary, the US Army just lacked numbers and ammunition. Whoever thought that only a couple thousand dudes from the National Guard can kill four million walking dead, not replace the tanks' APFSDS with cluster or beehive shells, and not have checked the amount of ammunition needed is colosally retarded.
@@imgvillasrc1608 I agree. They should've brought like 600,000 USA Military Troops and a Whole lot more close air support and Ammo. But look to the bright side Dude, at least they learned from this and then went on to win the battle of Hope and other battles against the zombie menace.
@@marcusmo1077 Enough meat in the wheels and gears and your vehicle is now dead in place with a horde all around the crew. Suicide for perhaps the same effectiveness as firing two or three H.E shells.
I remember being on an exercise and during the debriefing our co said that someone did "say the r word" over the radio and it took me an embarrassingly long time to realise he didnt mean r*tard
Fun Fact, the narrator is Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker from star wars). The audio is from the official audiobook, and the character speaking is voiced by Mark Hamill in the audiobook.
Literally listening to this story right now and typed in “world war Z animated” and this came up. I’ve been reading and listening to this book since it came out. So cool someone did this!
I used to drive to work in the area where they fought the Zed in the book, it would be a disaster to try and fortify/hold that area. The saw mill and Bronx “rivers” in areas is no deeper than a foot and no wider than a few feet across
Max Brooks is a good writer and WWZ was a great book, but he didn't know shit about Cold War doctrine. The main tactic for the British and American forces was never to form one solid line and fight into place, it was to prepare multiple defensive lines so you could fall back to each in turn while continuing to fight. The enemy was canalized or channeled into kill zones, and then units would fall back to the next position to avoid being overrun. There would be pre-registered artillery fires and (in this case) continual close air support. If there was one thing they expected to hit the Fulda Gap is was an endless horde, not of zombies but tanks and motor rifle troops. So you wouldn't stand and fight but trade distance for time. If an "FF" was really in charge I think Yonkers would have gone very differently.
The fully voiced version by Mark Hamill directly from Audible, explains that the tank crews would be putting themselves at risk, if too many bones and guts ended up clogging the tracks. To send them out into the horde would've been suicide.
Turns out the solution instead of freaking out was to deploy box formations with ammunition delivered in the center via airlift. Have them setup in open field and basically take their time semi auto headshot and have someone take over when their shift is over
Never liked how the Battle of Yonkers turned out. Anyone with a bit of actual combat experience would know that these hordes would be turned into clouds of pink mist and paste once the king of battle (artillery) got involved. The concussion and shrapnel would be more effective at destroying the brain then a single round from small arms would be.
Thats exactly what happened. The zombies were absolutely gored for a while, but then their heavy weapons ran out of ammo. They underestimated how much they needed for millions of zombies.
I actually pinpointed the exact spot in Yonkers that Wainio described using Google Maps. The A&P was long since closed, but you can still find it. The spot has a town street going in an overpass over the Freeway, which actually makes it a good position for troops to rain fire down on the zombie hoard. The A&p parking lot however doesn't give any line-of-sight to the freeway, so that's where I'd place artillery.
What makes the narrative more realistic is that this wouldn't be too far off on how the government would try to resolve the issue. Using tanks to fight zombies
1.) Aerial recon and satellite imagery. Look for open areas to make into killzones. Military vehicles should be able to reach there. 2.) Mobile defense>Static defense. Disciplined fire>suppression fire. Deploy highly mobile units(civilian vehicles, 4 wheels, trucks, APCs, IFVs, SP artillery, helicopters, etc) filled with marksmen and snipers. 3.) Bait a portion of the horde to a kill zone. 4.) Shoot and bomb the shit out of them. 5.) When the pressure gets high or low on ammo, orderly withdraw all forces from the area. For desperate static defense, I'm not sure. In the movie, the zombies climbed on the corpses and breached the walls. >Cluster mines, minefields, etc. >Lots of barriers just to slow them down. Fences, concrete barriers, hesco barriers, barbed wire and shipping containers. I was imagining a maze but the piling corpses might just make it useless. Tanks are meh. Useful for maintaining order as mobile forts against unruly people. Launching nukes is just shooting your foot. Just adds radiation and irrecoverable infrastructure to your zombie problem.
This channel is criminally underrated, i say "this channel should be way bigger" alot but holy shit your stuff is amazing i dont know how you dont have at the very least a few hundred thousand.
Dude this is awesome. Exactly as I imagined it in the book. Also if you guys like WWZ I suggest you pick up Max’s new book Devolution. Just finished it and it’s great too.
I love that book, whenever i read it again, when it comes to Yonkers, I love to put "Humans are Such an Easy Prey" by Pertubator, it fits so well ! Love your vid man, the audio book in the background is perfect !
God bless you Mark Hamill! You, along with the rest of the fantastic cast, did a phenomenal job at the audio book. And thank you Moskoni for bringing Yonkers to life!
Would absolutely love for you to do the Russian chapter,the Chinese submarine gone awol and the Japanese blind gardener with the hacker who manage to find a ww2 sword wearing hello kitty backpack lol
Just a thought: This is at 4AM, so I’m probably not thinking straight, but perhaps instead of digging in and fortifying, they should have done something involving on mobility and obstruction. Set up as many obstacles in front of the infected to slow them down as much as possible while having escape routes always readily available for units. In this tactic, they’ll fire and then fallback, fire and fullback, repeating the process and chipping away at the numbers. The only real thing from this preventing being used is the logistical nightmare to keep everyone well fueled and well armed.
I can’t believe I’m just now seeing this. I first read WWZ in Afghanistan during one of my deployments and the whole book completely blew me away. When I got to this section of the book I remember thinking that this entire scenario with the military is 100% accurate. Anyone who served in any branch would agree. This is an amazing visualization. Absolutely insane. I won’t speak for the movie because it was crap.
I love this book. The author really put care to use logic and reason. Most undead genres would just have military personnel overwhelmed because they were dumb. Here, its because the bluecoats were dumb. Those not present in the battlefield, those who had propaganda in mind. The soldiers did do their job well, but were ultimately doomed because of the position they were put in. The soldiers weren't dumb. Its was their commanders, and the author made it clear that the soldiers knew that. The problems were emphasized and pointed out. No plotholes. Just saying "this shit made no sense, what the fuck!" From the veteran, plain and simple.
Havent seen the whole thing yet, but this makes me think, in zombie world, Post, we always say, how the hell could they fail at killing zombies? and i think Yonkers is a good example of why we would fail, Pride and Ego xD
I remember reading this part of the book and just feeling sorry for the poor guys in the front line... Certainly one of my favorite books. Thank you for your video you did an incredible job
Given that I used to live in Yonkers, if anything like this were to happen in that area, there are so many choke points for people that the streets would be flooded with undead, so much so they might rise up to the rooftops
After suffering from the loss of many of his comrades, his friends and the the endless horde of the millions of the undead devouring and eating people and the other soldiers, that guy’s sanity and will has been broken and destroyed.
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"If you see one of them walking around with their lungs hanging out of their face say hello for me. It's always good to see a veteran of Yonkers."
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Is that a quote from the book?
Netflix needs to make a mini-series based of of World War Z (The Book not The Movie).
For sure, but stay to the book..chapter by chapter..
No, to much woke whamans nowadays & everything is turned into political bs
i doubt they're capable of that
@@patrickancona1193 They'd hire millennial sjw activist writers who'd ruin it beyond all recognition. It would be a complete disaster.
Yes, and they should stick with the running zombies.
Imagine being part of the cleanup squads. You see holes in soldiers temples when you know the enemy doesn't use guns. You get to see the thousand yard stares and the cries of 18 year old boys. You have to clean the blood and shove corpses into body bags, clean out the insides of vehicles. What a horror...
And then dump the zombies into Pikes of burning and melted flesh. My god the smell must be absolutely nightmarish
I’m not sure if there was a cleanup squad for Yonkers since they were overrun and didn’t rereach it til 12 years later
What clean up squads? They didn't come back for years. Those bodies probably already rotted to bones.
Met a WW2 veteran, British tank engineer served in north Africa. Had to get damaged vehicles ready for the next crew, including cleaning them out. He never had bacon again due to the smell.
not too bad
As I recall from the book, the idea wasn't bad, as you narrate, but they tried to fight like they were dealing with a Biohazard rather than zombies. That's what killed them-they should never have made a stand like this, the zombies would always push through by sheer weight of numbers. This is an excellent example of why-and the saddest part is, realising all is lost and there's no escape? The soldier shoots himself in the head rather than join the walking dead...
So this actually taken from the audiobook courtesy of mark hamil. I think my favorite part is how his character mentions he got flash banged. Some idiot tossed a flash bang worse some idiot was issued a flash bang to fight the undead. I wish he figured out how to have the Comanche bit but as I understand armas is finicky at best and irritating at worst.
@@thedude4840 Or the idiot that loaded the tanks and AFVs with AP and SABOT rounds that were practically useless.
@@Cowboycomando54 Or the idiot that didn't think of ammo supplies and ordered the deployment of fucking Jammers, of all things.
@@Cowboycomando54 Id be willing to bet that in the complete chaos of the world falling apart around them, logistical concerns like that flew right out the window.
It became all about looking pretty and mean for the cameras.
The troops at Yonkers would have still won if their weapon systems didnt run out of ammo.
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Not always. It's a bit immersion breaking to hear 'the lz is taking small arms fire', or 'enemy troops have breached the evac point' when there's no actual incoming fire or enemy "troops" lol. I could go on with a list of small nitpicks on this video, but there'd be no point.
@@TheMasterGamer64 There is a lot of small problems with this video lol. This was my first attempt at a machinina. My upcoming full-length film will be much more immersive and dynamic.
Same
I’ve worn every single bit of that gear it sucks to high heaven especially when it 80 degrees out there
Nothing like putting the gloves on and feeling dozens of other dude’s sweat over the years
Yea I’d love to say that we wouldn’t react like this either in real life. Except there’s always those officers and senior NCOs who do things the entirely stupid or hardest possible way because it’s “text book” or the “the way we were told to do it”.
@@stevenrodriguez763 And there are those that don't. I've worked with both.
@@stevenrodriguez763 Seems like in this situation it would be best to do the opposite of what the Geneva Conventions says to do.
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My favorite chapter from the book. Thanks for bringing it to life in ARMA!
Bro's what book's? I stumbled on this today and this is great!
@@riojasvictor World War Z by Max Brooks
When the enemy doesn't feel pain or fear, then suppression and shock and awe are useless.
In our attempt to shock and awe zack it just boomeranged on us and let zack shock and awe us
When the enemy doesn't feel pain or fear, they'll get massacred faster than never before
@@itsuk1_1 You could not be more wrong
@@PeachDragon_ imagine soldier with no fears, never taking cover, walk straight on the firing line. lol
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That’s not the only factor with this type of enemy.
It feels no pain, and cannot die by normal means (doesn’t need lungs, a heart, not even fucking blood).
Not only that, but the psychological exhaustion can take its toll (you’re shooting people who have their guts hanging out and their limbs ripped off, but still keep going).
That was truly brilliant! I've read the book, listened to the Audiobook but this really does it justice. Please Please Please make the rest of WWZ if you can. The movie sucked and should have been a tv series with each part of the book a seperate episode.
My same opinion. Amazon or HBO should do it.
Let me add a strong complete agreement to everything you said. I said almost the exact thing to my wife after watching that God awful movie. The book lends itself perfectly to an episodic series format. Production costs would be high, but done right with Max (and maybe Scorsese?) Involved, it would be a huge hit dwarfing the Walking Dead. Please to the powers that be make this happen.
Yeah, I’ve always said WWZ was perfect for n HBO series
Movie was awesome, don't get why people dislike it when it seems to actually make sense that fast moving zombies would take over, then slow moving zombies
@@SquidCena one of the movie plot point is that the zombie purposely ignore diseased humans. But how do the infected tell them apart? Sure they probably say that sick people gives off certain smell to the zombies but broken leg and blindness? Also why should the virus care when the method of attack is pouncing and biting.
I love the voice acting. Just sounds so done, not even angry, just done.
Mark Hamill
@@AnthonyRobinson-rc9yd that was Mark hamil? I was wondering it and assumed they got another guy
@@lazarussolomon3541 it was Mark Hamil from the audiobook excerpt
@@AnthonyRobinson-rc9yd I FUCKING THOUGHT IT WAS HIS VOICE
@@ericksheldon3870The cast for the audio book is utterly EXCELLENT.
I remember when I read this part, the soldier speaking talks about the canister rounds that the M1's had. They were devastatingly effective, but each tank only had like 4 of em. The guys in charge killed EVERYONE at Yonkers, one of the big reasons they adopt massive changes later on.
Edit: not to mention the assholes in charge authorized a fuel-air bomb drop that did NOTHING.
Granted, they had no idea what they were really dealing with. They were still under the impression these were animate humans infected with Rabies Virus, not undead.
It didnt do nothing. The troops, jets, tanks, artillery etc at Yonkers killed tens of thousands of zombies. It just wasnt enough because there were about five million zombies. They only lost because their heavy weapon systems ran out of ammo and the troops paniced at the end.
US losses:
1 apache (some army aviation dude went haywire and decided to use his bird as zed lawn mower)
A company's worth of men
Several officers
Morale
Zack:
A tickle to their number
Which is bullshits because armor piercing sabot rounds go really really far, imagine a super arrow going for kilometres
@jessicaregina1956 it's not BS when you're having to take out the brain stem. Yea you're shattering the horde with that massive DU round but now you have DU plastered over the end zone with a bunch of heads that can still bite and infect a human. That's a HUGE clean up zone.
You know, when you see abandoned cities and streets filled with rusting military equipment in zombie games and TV shows, wondering how the hell did the military get overrun? This is how. The battle of Yonkers perfectly details how it all happens. And it's hard to imagine otherwise after reading this part..
People always like this would never happen like this it would imagine being in a soldier in this battle your fight nycs entire population imagine your fighting and your squadmqte just gets eaten right in front of you this is what movies and tv need to go depict more
well sure, except most TV shows, games and novelizations about this scenario either don't understand just how physically destructive military munitions are to the human body (and by extension how the human body works), or elect to ignore it to sell the story... and it shows, painfully so.
I saw like 6 M2s in that lineup, and there were bradleys with their bushmaster chainguns on the line. that kind of firepower wouldn't be "dropping zeds" it would be making Zed soup by the truckload with each burst.
and their description of bombs and artillery being ineffective because zombies aren't affected by pressure? do they not understand how that level of explosive pressure liquefies muscle mass and pulverizes bone into gravel?
okay I buy the bushmasters and M2s not "killing" them effectively, because you gotta destroy the brain, but you're still rendering hundreds of zeds as "no longer an immediate threat" at a rate of 3,600 zeds a minute, 7,200 if you account for collateral from overpenetration. That's JUST from the 6 M2 machine guns based on their rate of fire.
with the bradley bushmaster, you would be adding 3,000 to that pile, and that's just a rough estimate because that 25mm fucks and I'm not sure how much collateral you'd get out of chucking 25mm anti-personell rounds at a wall of bodies.
if they utilized cannister shot on those abrams, or high explosive, again, probably not killing anything but it sure as shit is rendering chunks of zeds as "not an immediate threat" with each volley.
"buh buh the head isn't dead it can still move"
again another thing that annoys the shit out of me in zombie stuff
if the muscles are shredded and the bones are a jigsaw puzzle, that zed isn't going anywhere and you can focus on the rest of the horde. God I hope this trope dies.
it irritates the shit out of me when they describe how "ineffective" our weapons are when anyone with an inkling of understanding of how brutal our weapons get and what they do to the body, and more than two braincells to rub together knows that that statement is bullshit. "ineffective at killing zed" my left nut.
the TACTICS were bad, not our weapons.
They needed to stick to their guns and say, "Our weapons were very effective at killing zed by the thousands, but it went FUBAR because we treated Zed like a traditional enemy we could route instead of the rolling tide of mindless bodies it actually was. There were just too many to kill enough of them before they overran our position. The operation was going to fail no matter how much firepower we had due to the tactics we used." That to me is a more convincing reason and doesn't ruin my suspension of disbelief, which, oddly enough they even mention as part of why Yonkers went down like it did.
if they doubled down on tactics and doctrine being the reason why militaries fell to the zeds, then I'd have infinitely less to gripe about, hell I'd even come to agreeing with some of these scenarios (Like Yonkers).
but to say our weapons weren't effective drives me up the wall from the ignorance.
they couldve used air support like A-10s, F-15Es, and AC-130s
@@ronnielogan1984I’d still argue this would at very least be unlikely to happen for the us military anyway.
One it would take a superb level of incompetence to let things get to the point where you have severely outnumbered troops not supported by artillery, Air Force, and ISR.
Two. They’re fucking zombies. They ain’t smart and they are just walking slowly, the only way they could possible get surrounded and overrun is if the military somehow didn’t have any tactical awareness of the combat zone which just takes us back to point one.
Imagine listening screams of soldiers that zombie caught with Land Warrior system, demoralising and creating panic
This is awesome man, well done. Makes me feel sad we had a high production film of this book and yet this battle was cut out, arguably some of the best zombie fiction written.
Movie wasn't like the book anyway, it felt more like a movie prequel to Left 4 Dead or a modern Dawn of the Dead spinoff.
@@imgvillasrc1608 Yeah, they made the mistake of hiring an A-lister like Brad Pitt as the lead role and therefore had to rewrite the entire script around his character. The result was no Yonkers, no Hope and a generic zombie story that only shares the name with its source material.
EXACTLY
Gods please please please do the Paris catacombs chapter, that entire situation was nightmare fuel.
Stay Tuned for Episode 4 ;)
Beautifully crafted, a live action version would make my year. Such a perfect example of zombie literature
The single greatest missed opportunity from the movie adaptation. Thanks for this.
This was one of my favorite battles in all literature, thank you for visualizing it
Well done. I've read this chapter many times. Cool to see some visuals put to it other than what my imagination does👍
Yea man.....I loved this
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Or even better, go to the actual location on google maps.
I wish there was a WWZ motion comic. This is the next best thing!
Really does the book justice. Nailed a lot of book details.
Well done! They depicted a battle where they expected suppressive fire to work, only to realize that the zombies didn't suppress worth a damn....
This should of been in the movie. This was an iconic chapter in the book
The World War Z game did kinda include this in the New york Campaign
@@ivongrey9047 great part of z great game imo
the use of voice acting from COD radio and BF1 intense lines was very smart.
I really enjoyed watching this well done
If the whole book could be made like this OMFG that would be amazing.
Huh, something that I imagine Max Brooks didn't think of at the time is that these guys would probably have been National Guardsmen and Army Reservists. Maybe a few Regulars at home on Training shit but, majority Guardsmen and Reservists.
In the book these were all Army Regulars. 1st Infantry Division if I remember correctly. By this point the outbreak was about two months old and the regular military had been deployed state side.
@@Hellhound23691 yeah, in this universe they had just pulled out of Iraq and all their equipment was still painted tan.
Yeah, Max Brooks' universe, the Great Panic had already set in and the National Guard/Reserves were already stretched to the breaking point. The Active units were thus moved in to major population centers to assist. Of course, all it was was just putting more meat into the zombie grinder.
Damn, me and my mom are just rereading WWZ too. Cant wait to get to this chapter.
7:21 that legendary brrrt is here
Undoubtly, this was most underrated youtube channel i've ever found
This is just spectacular and accurate to the source material. Can't wait for the battle of hope or even the insane battle underneath the paris catacombs.
Glad you enjoyed! Battle of Hope is on the channel :)
This is awesome! It sucks that the movie didn't even allude to this part.
The movie was nothing like the book and we need another movie that would stay true to the source material
The only thing that relates the movie to the book is the name other than that… my point is that the book is better
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What we need is a show
@@starset4life175 A show that's something like the walking dead but instead of focusing on a group of survivors in one part of the nation it focuses on characters that experience the events the book describes
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Each season could be a different chapter from the book
The Battle of Yonkers in WWZ was a Suicide Mission
Eh, not really. Even if the defenses and "netrocentric hyperwar" were completely unnecessary, the US Army just lacked numbers and ammunition.
Whoever thought that only a couple thousand dudes from the National Guard can kill four million walking dead, not replace the tanks' APFSDS with cluster or beehive shells, and not have checked the amount of ammunition needed is colosally retarded.
@@imgvillasrc1608 I agree. They should've brought like 600,000 USA Military Troops and a Whole lot more close air support and Ammo. But look to the bright side Dude, at least they learned from this and then went on to win the battle of Hope and other battles against the zombie menace.
The one thing I’ve always questioned is that why did no one ever thought about just running Zacks over with tanks and APCs
@@marcusmo1077 got to shoot them in the brain
@@marcusmo1077 Enough meat in the wheels and gears and your vehicle is now dead in place with a horde all around the crew. Suicide for perhaps the same effectiveness as firing two or three H.E shells.
"I repeat"
As a veteran I was with you right up until I heard this over the god damn radio. Now my eyes doing the twitchy thing
I remember being on an exercise and during the debriefing our co said that someone did "say the r word" over the radio and it took me an embarrassingly long time to realise he didnt mean r*tard
I guess repeat is a stereotype thing, figured. I figure “over” is a stereotype as well? Also thanks for service if you fought in any conflicts
This is pretty much how I pictured this part of the book to be made. I love it.
Fun Fact, the narrator is Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker from star wars). The audio is from the official audiobook, and the character speaking is voiced by Mark Hamill in the audiobook.
I love the audiobook. I am so happy I have met Max Brooks twice now.
Literally listening to this story right now and typed in “world war Z animated” and this came up. I’ve been reading and listening to this book since it came out. So cool someone did this!
This is the best depiction of Yonkers I have ever seen. Two thumbs up!
Lol I worked in Yonkers as part of the municipal govt until the end of last year
I used to drive to work in the area where they fought the Zed in the book, it would be a disaster to try and fortify/hold that area. The saw mill and Bronx “rivers” in areas is no deeper than a foot and no wider than a few feet across
@@CatDad63089 then it's a stream XD
@@anonymous3174 thanks but I wasn’t in the armed forces!
@@CatDad63089 Yeah, I mean the Saw Mill River doesn't seem like a bad place to defend at all...
You know how to set a goddamn atmosphere of all fuckery proportions my guy
The film WWZ was a good movie on its own but not the awesome story that was the book. This is true genius!
This really needs to be a HBO Miniseries!! I would DEFINITELY watch it!!
Mom can we have world war Z at home
We already have world war z at home
World war z at home: Brad Pitt drinking a Pepsi
If the movie wasnt associated with the most legendary book of zombie culture, it may have been recieved a lot better.
@@abraham2172 yeah, in their efforts to basically gain street cred from the WWZ name, they pretty much shot themselves in the foot
I got goosebumps when I started to hear Tod Waino's voice.
Well done!
Max Brooks is a good writer and WWZ was a great book, but he didn't know shit about Cold War doctrine. The main tactic for the British and American forces was never to form one solid line and fight into place, it was to prepare multiple defensive lines so you could fall back to each in turn while continuing to fight. The enemy was canalized or channeled into kill zones, and then units would fall back to the next position to avoid being overrun. There would be pre-registered artillery fires and (in this case) continual close air support. If there was one thing they expected to hit the Fulda Gap is was an endless horde, not of zombies but tanks and motor rifle troops. So you wouldn't stand and fight but trade distance for time. If an "FF" was really in charge I think Yonkers would have gone very differently.
I don't know where the hell you found that narrator, but sweet jesus was he good.
Had a touch of Mark Hamill in his voice.
It is Mark Hamill :)
@@MoskoniDesign Holy shit, sweet deal man.
It's from the audiobook I'd imagine
@@Ducky-nm9dj yep
Very good. I wish they would make an animated version. Never understood why the tanks didn’t pull forward and roll over them.
He said why they got ordered to Trench up meaning they basically went emplacement
The fully voiced version by Mark Hamill directly from Audible, explains that the tank crews would be putting themselves at risk, if too many bones and guts ended up clogging the tracks. To send them out into the horde would've been suicide.
Nice job. Really one of the best representations of the Battle of Yonkers from the book.
Amazing video/mini movie! You've got real talent and great vision.
Mark is a great part of the audiobook
Turns out the solution instead of freaking out was to deploy box formations with ammunition delivered in the center via airlift. Have them setup in open field and basically take their time semi auto headshot and have someone take over when their shift is over
Machinima.... wow, that's something I havent heard in a while
This is truly a great chapter! One of the books best.
Never liked how the Battle of Yonkers turned out. Anyone with a bit of actual combat experience would know that these hordes would be turned into clouds of pink mist and paste once the king of battle (artillery) got involved. The concussion and shrapnel would be more effective at destroying the brain then a single round from small arms would be.
Thats exactly what happened. The zombies were absolutely gored for a while, but then their heavy weapons ran out of ammo. They underestimated how much they needed for millions of zombies.
I actually pinpointed the exact spot in Yonkers that Wainio described using Google Maps. The A&P was long since closed, but you can still find it. The spot has a town street going in an overpass over the Freeway, which actually makes it a good position for troops to rain fire down on the zombie hoard. The A&p parking lot however doesn't give any line-of-sight to the freeway, so that's where I'd place artillery.
The MW2 radio chatter was a nice touch, two separate pieces of media showing how the Army got desperate against a seemingly unwinnable battle.
What makes the narrative more realistic is that this wouldn't be too far off on how the government would try to resolve the issue. Using tanks to fight zombies
5:25 ah yes the greatest line for any zombie scenario XD
Soldiers: WERE ALL GONNA DIE
Also soldiers: *kills countless zombies*
You may have guns, tanks and choppers. But we have the numbers. -zombie
And no fear
😆
*...We have a lot more bullets... like 10 or 11 bullets for every person in the world.*
@@josephstahl9119 Ah my friend it really depends if someone knows how to save their bullets. :>
@@sdcorp3749 *Well yeah obviously? but honestly, it can't be helped if the writers decided to write the military into idiots.*
1.) Aerial recon and satellite imagery. Look for open areas to make into killzones. Military vehicles should be able to reach there.
2.) Mobile defense>Static defense. Disciplined fire>suppression fire. Deploy highly mobile units(civilian vehicles, 4 wheels, trucks, APCs, IFVs, SP artillery, helicopters, etc) filled with marksmen and snipers.
3.) Bait a portion of the horde to a kill zone.
4.) Shoot and bomb the shit out of them.
5.) When the pressure gets high or low on ammo, orderly withdraw all forces from the area.
For desperate static defense, I'm not sure. In the movie, the zombies climbed on the corpses and breached the walls.
>Cluster mines, minefields, etc.
>Lots of barriers just to slow them down. Fences, concrete barriers, hesco barriers, barbed wire and shipping containers. I was imagining a maze but the piling corpses might just make it useless.
Tanks are meh. Useful for maintaining order as mobile forts against unruly people.
Launching nukes is just shooting your foot. Just adds radiation and irrecoverable infrastructure to your zombie problem.
i LOVE the WWZ video game!!! its addicting
This channel is criminally underrated, i say "this channel should be way bigger" alot but holy shit your stuff is amazing i dont know how you dont have at the very least a few hundred thousand.
Bethesda needs to make a DLC Campaign like this
No, not them, someone better.
@@SwedishEmpire1700 agreed
Dude this is awesome. Exactly as I imagined it in the book.
Also if you guys like WWZ I suggest you pick up Max’s new book Devolution. Just finished it and it’s great too.
Very Underrated
Excellent Job! Really well done, captures the atmosphere.
Great job for making these,its kinda sad that gta san andreas battle of yonkers wasn't released
I love that book, whenever i read it again, when it comes to Yonkers, I love to put "Humans are Such an Easy Prey" by Pertubator, it fits so well ! Love your vid man, the audio book in the background is perfect !
Pertubator is good
I keep imaging the Joker dropping his villain career to join the fight against the dead. Mark's voice is so iconic
God bless you Mark Hamill! You, along with the rest of the fantastic cast, did a phenomenal job at the audio book.
And thank you Moskoni for bringing Yonkers to life!
Would absolutely love for you to do the Russian chapter,the Chinese submarine gone awol and the Japanese blind gardener with the hacker who manage to find a ww2 sword wearing hello kitty backpack lol
I remember reading the chapter than years later i moved to yonkers for a bit lmao. I drove through sawmill a lot and it is a good choke point
I needed this in my life. Thank you
Just a thought:
This is at 4AM, so I’m probably not thinking straight, but perhaps instead of digging in and fortifying, they should have done something involving on mobility and obstruction. Set up as many obstacles in front of the infected to slow them down as much as possible while having escape routes always readily available for units. In this tactic, they’ll fire and then fallback, fire and fullback, repeating the process and chipping away at the numbers.
The only real thing from this preventing being used is the logistical nightmare to keep everyone well fueled and well armed.
Max Brooks is such a great writer. I bet Mel is so proud of him
This deserve more view
This has to be the best WWZ arma 3 vid I have ever seen. Always wanted to see this battle animated somehow.
Did some looking and found the audiobook. And it was him. I’m so getting it. And subbing to you good crew. Keep it up
Amazing work dude, really
This is my favorite novel.I read this book 20 times in 2 years
I wished they went for a series of the novel, 10/10 would watch it.
SO MUCH BETTER than the BradPittSpeedZombie movie. thank you for doing this.
I can’t believe I’m just now seeing this. I first read WWZ in Afghanistan during one of my deployments and the whole book completely blew me away. When I got to this section of the book I remember thinking that this entire scenario with the military is 100% accurate. Anyone who served in any branch would agree. This is an amazing visualization. Absolutely insane. I won’t speak for the movie because it was crap.
Thank you. I highly recommend my latest video!
I had no idea Joker served! Thank you for your service.
I love this book. The author really put care to use logic and reason. Most undead genres would just have military personnel overwhelmed because they were dumb. Here, its because the bluecoats were dumb. Those not present in the battlefield, those who had propaganda in mind. The soldiers did do their job well, but were ultimately doomed because of the position they were put in. The soldiers weren't dumb. Its was their commanders, and the author made it clear that the soldiers knew that. The problems were emphasized and pointed out. No plotholes. Just saying "this shit made no sense, what the fuck!" From the veteran, plain and simple.
Havent seen the whole thing yet, but this makes me think, in zombie world, Post, we always say, how the hell could they fail at killing zombies? and i think Yonkers is a good example of why we would fail, Pride and Ego xD
I remember reading this part of the book and just feeling sorry for the poor guys in the front line...
Certainly one of my favorite books. Thank you for your video you did an incredible job
7:40 i love the mw2 wolverines dialogue
Given that I used to live in Yonkers, if anything like this were to happen in that area, there are so many choke points for people that the streets would be flooded with undead, so much so they might rise up to the rooftops
Thanks for the recommendation Pointless Hub.
Man, I loved this chapter in thr book.
I’ve never read the book but I feel like this gives a great idea of what the book is like
What gives me the chills is the tone of the soldier. Its like his will to live died there on that day
After suffering from the loss of many of his comrades, his friends and the the endless horde of the millions of the undead devouring and eating people and the other soldiers, that guy’s sanity and will has been broken and destroyed.
Idk how, but you perfectly matched how I imagined Todd’s voice in my head.
This was an amazing short film
It's Mark Hammel, everyone clap.
well done looks great
I'm glad you're here man
Amazing brought the book alive!
This is fantastic.
Man, I wish they had B 52. Pretty sure it would have help with killing the zombies
What about AC-130?
@@kovacsnovak6745 ya that one too
Wouldn't they have been calling danger close runs and also naplam and fire bombing would've helped