i just wanna say, props to Jeremiah for being so mature. Everyone calls him immature and childish but no one can deny that he handled this situation with maturity and grace, even if it caused him pain, he just wanted Belly and Conrad to be happy with each other if its what BOTH of them want. my poor baby😭
I loved this finale! This episode I was super impressed by how maturely Jeremiah handled everything. I’m proud of him being the one to tell Belly she needed to talk to Conrad, and being the first one to tell Conrad that he just wants the both of them to be happy, and that he’ll step aside if she chooses him. I’m really proud of Belly too. She finally realized how Conrad is, and that it isn’t her job to fix him. Nobody can say after this episode, that Belly didn’t choose Jere of her own free will. I’m glad they had her choose Jere even after Conrad admitted his feelings. As a Jelly shipper, I’m not sure what’s going to happen in season 3, but short of completely destroying Belly and Jeremiah’s characters, (which would be extremely disappointing) I don’t see how they’re going to make Bonrad endgame. Regardless, for now I’m just going to enjoy what we have, and I hope we get to see a lot of college cuteness between Belly and Jeremiah. I can’t wait to see them in a relationship! Also, Lola and Gavin’s chemistry continues to be perfection. I can’t believe we got XO by Beyoncé! That was iconic.
Conrad is doing this all for his brother, that’s the thing that everyone seems to forget. He’s giving up belly and his love so his brother can be happy. And that’s the best way to look after his brother.
Yes, he does want his brother to be happy but when he Took back what he said to belly, he wasn’t just doing that for jere he was doing that for himself, because he got scared and wanted to back out. And I get that he thinks that this will make Jeremiah happy, but it doesn’t make him happy to know that he is the second option because Conrad didn’t say his feelings sooner or went back on his word
No because one thing that I hate about love triangles is the fact that there is always a very clear bias towards one of the love intrests despise the fact that the other is objectively the better choice. Like literally why everyone in this show is soooo obsessed with conrad even Susannah wants belly to pick him despite the fact that she knows that jere also loves her and that it's hurting him... Miss girl that is your son aswell ??!!! 💀 But anyways thank u so much for your reactions your editing always gets me 😂
Yes all of this!! And when she asked belly to look after Conrad, I was like um hello, you have another son! Who you know also loves Belly. Wouldn’t you say look after my boys, y’all all look after each other, and be there for one another. All of you!
Wouldn't it be weird if she wanted belly to married her sons? She obviously knows how belly feels about him Everyone in that family knows belly wants conrad.. all in season 1 it was in your face "Every birthday and shooting stars my wish was Conrad" It's literally belly in s1 They say it all the time it's always gonna be Conrad
The one thing that irked me this episode was how Belly scoffed when Conrad asked to just be friends, when she was all over Jeremiah. She needs to be dead set with who she wants to be with or she’s just going to hurt everyone again 😭😭😭
"I mean he did literally give her fireworks" I'm deaddddd. I love how conflicted you were, I really came into the show thinking Conrad was gonna be the best endgame but Jeremiah immediately won me over I love to see it happen to others🤣🥰 also the 'I heard Jere has a whole different personality next season', I hopeeeee it's not like that god give my man a fighting chance & Steven rooting so hard against him after they were besties season 1 hurt but go off I guess -- also your editing is so good!
😂😂😂 thank you so much. This episode really was a rough one. I’m hoping they give him a fighting chance too. He really deserves to be happy and what I’ve heard happens seems so out of character for him. Especially when it comes to Belly. And yeah, that plot point really made no sense to me. If anything, he should have just been on the side of whatever made Belly happy. I think when she told him she was out of her mind in love was probably what solidified Conrad for him. Just hoping next season isn’t as messy 😭😭 and thank you! I appreciate it 😘💕
@@TajinaeTurner Love your reactions! :) And yes, it was so out of character. It will especially be after season 2. Book 3 Jere won’t really even make complete sense anymore after how mature they made Jere in season 2. Book 2 to book 3 was like whiplash. Jeremiah’s character was assassinated to justify a Bonrad endgame. It will be interesting to see what direction they go in, but I listened to Gavin and Chris say they think season 3 will closely follow book 3, and that will a hard sell for me.
I’ve read the books and I also know how it’s gonna end I was team jelly in the books and I AM HARDCORE team jelly in the show like look at the material at the chemistry how can u not root for them … if a girl loves 2 boys she should choose the 2nd one cause if she really truly loved the first one she wouldn’t of have fallen in love with the 2nd one ….. and hello best friends to lovers trope what else can u wish for 😩💓💓 #TEAMJELLY 4 life
Jere better in everyway imo (the show), belly just loves the idea of Conrad from young imo, love how neutral you are and pick up on things that a lot of other reactors don’t🤝❤️
It's like Conrad's experiencing what Jere had been through and vice versa and I don't know how to feel about it knowing that she'll end up with Conrad anyway haha she could've just distanced herself after having a heart-to-heart talk to the brothers, grow have time for herself to mature but no haha
i think that you are team jelly in your heart but you just don’t want jere to get hurt but it’s really obvious that you are team jelly deep down! live laugh love teamjelly
I’m def team Jeremiah and I’m a firm believer that he grew so much from season 1-2 while Conrad not so much and yeah we can blame Susannah death but honestly that excuse is played out let’s come up with another excuse now I do feel bad for BOTH of the boys honesty maybe I’m just a belly anti😂😂
@@JaySewani Wasn't Susannah dying when Conrad was with Nicole, didn't he know then? Isn't he the one who hid that fact from Jere? Didn't he know his mom was dying, when he went for Belly, when Belly was with Cam? Wasn't Jere the one taking care of his mom when Conrad wasn't even around? Yes, Susannah was sick, but when he took her to prom, she wasn't that bad. You Conrad fans just don't like the fact that she piked Jere. Everyone handles grief differently, but the way he acted at her prom cannot be justified, if he truly loved her. Maybe she was wrong, she expected too much from him at Prom, or from the relationship in general. That's why she tells Jere: "I always dreamt of what it would be like to be with Conrad, but dreams aren't real.". She had built up a version of Conrad in her head that she wanted to be with, but when she was with him, it didn't feel the same or real. Sort of feels like she was infatuated (or obsession masqueraded as love) with him, but ended up forcing herself to love him. Now I know what's going to happen next, you are going to bring up the book, and the cheating plot. Honestly, I don't care. Didn't think it was cheating when Ross did it to Rachel, and don't think its cheating now.
@@gooner-all-the-wayfrom the prom to the funeral happen in a week Conrad knew his mom was getting worst because of the medication switch. Jeremiah taking care of his mom ?? Why use that against conrad ? 😂 Like it's a L Conrad didn't take care of his mom. Conrad was away and came home every chance he could. He didn't even visit belly much they had long distance relationship. I think this teams things is getting in your head because none of these characters are perfect Jeremiah in season 1 almost hit belly & Conrad with a firework to stop a kiss??? In season 2 he admits he always hated Conrad. Jeremiah has flaws as well he sees Conrad as a threat. When Conrad didn't even know Jeremiah like belly after he found out . He went to talk to Jere for his blessing Belly ain't a saint either like ppl always go with back & forth to make Conrad or Jeremiah looks bad when belly is the problem. How you gonna kiss your ex's brother on his car with his sweatshirt and expect him to be okay with it .s3 belly gonna be worse because she still wants conrad and with the cam thing belly legit broke up with cam and went straight to Conrad.😂 Since s1 they been setting up Conrad to be endgame
Loved your reactions!! This episode was tough for Conrad shippers. Belly finally realized that Conrad wasnt ready for the type of relationship she wanted. It took loosing him in her kife to reakize just what he neant to her. With Jeremiah she can be herself. He will be there for her through everything, good and bad. He sees her for who she is and what she can be. It was sad for Conrad but what he needed in order to grow.
the whole time Trusky (Conrad's roomate i think thats his name) was talking about how good looking Jeremiah is and his ocean eyes, i kept screaming cuz i LITERALLY said the same thing before the scene😭
The Swedish fish part frustrates me so much as a viewer. They spent so much time explaining to the audience that Jere remembers everything about Belly but he randomly forgot her fav candy?? It doesn’t make sense. Also, in the books, Belly loves Swedish fish. If they wanted to hype up Conrad or imply that he knows her better, they should’ve found a less lazy way of doing it, plot wise, this one made no sense.
it actually makes sense. Its just that you have only seen Jeres perspective. What he thought happened is the way he sees it, but it doesnt mean its the truth. Jere always assumed Conrads feelings, saying he didnt have a right cause he didnt care before which is totally false. For the people who have read the books it is clear that Conrad always had a special place for Belly and he paid attention to a lot of things since they were kids and you can see that literally in the first seconds of the first episode of S1. S1 was meant for Belly POV, season 2 was Jeres POV and S3 will be Conrads. For you to really get the whole picture and judge, you have to know all the POVS.
@@greatperhaps that’s not what I said, I said that Jere is supposed to know everything about Belly, including that she liked virgin strawberry daiquiri’s because of the mini umbrella, which even Susannah forgot, but suddenly he doesn’t know her favourite candy. It’s lazy writing. I never said Conrad doesn’t know her, just that the sour patch/Swedish berry thing doesn’t make sense given what they’ve established about Jere.
@@crystalpritchard5065 Jere knows her but the things he remembers about her are things she used to like when they were younger. People grow up and even tho she still likes some of the same things, theres others that might have changed. Conrad and Belly dated for a long time, so its obvious he would know something like that because its something she likes in the present
@@greatperhapsI do see where you are coming from on how people can change when they get older and maybe Belly did change her favorite candy but I still believe that Jeremiah might've known that. He knew what kind of pie she wanted, her favorite slushy, that she was scared just by looking at her, that she still loves volleyball, he remembers everything she says or likes because he is her best friend and in love with her. I think the writers wanted to put some doubts in the viewers minds which is why they put the candy scene in there.
Great reaction video like always. I believe that their were to major scenes for Jelly this episode that many people might not know about or look at. The first scene is was Belly and Susannah which set up this entire season. Belly promises Susannah that she will take care of Conrad which she did by helping Jere find him, helping him keep the house, helping him get into Brown and finally by letting him go at the end so he can enjoy Stanford. Also, in that scene she sees Jeremiah and realizes everything his been going through over the year by him taking care of Susannah. In that moment she knew that she wanted Jere back in her life as her best friend which is why she called him in episode 1 and apologized to him in episode 2. The second scene was the motel room scene. Gavin admits in an interview that Jere was up when Conrad and Belly were talking. That explains why he left because he thought Belly was chosing Conrad again and he wanted to mentally come to terms with it which he did. That's why he didn't want to look at her or believe it. Also, I enjoyed how you noticed that Belly didn't want to run after Conrad but did run after Jeremiah. I believe that was the shows way of really showing who Belly wants to be with right now.
I thought so at first too but than Chris says I love how Jeremiah was a sleep and that's when Gavin replies I wasn't a sleep. Which I take it to mean that the character wasn't a sleep not the actor because Chris knows Gavin wasn't a sleep
Without knowing the ending in the books i think we'd all be rooting for Jere and can clearly see how even though Conrad loves belly he's not what she needs, but our own bias of wanting to be on the winning teams deludes us into justifying Conrad's actions. Yes, he went through a hard time but so did Jer and he never once hurt belly. Im actually so upset that they tarnished his character in the last book to let bonrad have their endgame because it's not like Jere. Both belly and Conrad led people on in the first season but never Jere. If the show ends like the books it only perpetuates the idea that good guys come last which is terrible. Belly deserves to grow as a person and not be bound to the infatuation she had for Conrad as a child. The sweet moments Conrad gives doesn't undo the pain he's caused. All throughout belly is always concerned about Jeremiah's feelings way more which shows who she really loves. We love to say Belly caused this mess but she tried establishing boundaries so many times and Conrad crossed them all. Jer deserves his happy ending the most.
Thank you soo much for putting this out there because i needed to know what happened without watch 2 full seasons on prime (which i don't have anymoree) and the whole timelines got messed up with all those edits
No, I’m in the middle of book too, and she says when she takes her candy when she was little 10 big pieces of Swedish fish I didn’t say sour patch kids like excuse me
The thing is jere put himself in this situation he knows belly loves conrad and he knew this in season 1 and he still choose to date her a few months after Conrad and belly broke up. And they decide to kiss while in Conrad’s college on his car and belly wearing his sweater. Also I hate when they conrad is messy during the car ride it’s so wrong because how would you react seeing your brother kiss your ex in front of you and then just have no feelings towards him about how it would feel. When conrad kiss belly he didn’t even know about Jere and her but Jere knew about belly and conrad. And he chooses to insert himself in this situation.
They never dated in season 1 thou and it’s not like you can really control who your heart wants. If anything Conrad was more fucked by kissing her at the end and then belly having to convince him to wait to start dating cause he never considers Jeres feelings fr. And he literally was messy in the car like sure it was funny and for a reason but that doesn’t make it any less hurtful. Conrad should’ve been the younger brother cause jere is way more mature. To me it’s been the pattern of Conrad realizing he wants her when she’s w someone else. Jere always knew belly liked Conrad sure but childhood crushes are a thing and Conrad never once reciprocated it till later so idk what’s so wrong of him for trying himself.
I’m so conflicted cause idk who’s team I’m on😭 I love them bothhhhhhh. I think I’ll be happy with whoever she ends up with, but I just don’t want either of the boys to get hurt😭 like I love belly and Jeremiah together but I also really like them as besties. And I love belly and Conrad aswell so idkkkk😭😭 i love Conrad and Jeremiah and I want the, to be there for each otherrr. so I don’t want the boys getting hurt, I love them sm😔😔
As a Team Conrad person, I do can accept Jere and Belly being together for now. I want to try to break down my thoughts a little bit... First of all, yes, I do see how Jere grw this season, but he ain't completely there yet. He still has many things to work on. Second, Conrad grew this seaosn as well. He strated to open up more and more and it's really sad how ppl overlook that. He starts to admit to his mistakes and even apologises for them. So this is still my main problem with Jere, he didn't apologize so far, but he should've as well. They both messed things up over time. Conrad was always potrayed to have been this smart, funny, happy a little introvert guy. He used to protect the younger ones and guide them, especially Belly. He would teach Belly stuff, explain things to her and would give her gifts (uniconr, junior mint). We do know he liked Belly before, he just didn't know it was love. Belly fell for Conrad for all the right reasons, yes he was her first crush, but it wasn't some obsession and it wasn't unhealthy for her to like Conrad, he always has been a great guy and that is why she fell for him in the first place. Jere and Conrad a very different ppl, they are so different that in real life, they probably wouldn't be close friends. Conrad is an introvert and a shy person, it has always been hard for him to open up to ppl, unlike Jere. Jere is an extrovert.moments. Conrad was closer to his father when growing up, but the reason behind it ain't a pleasent one. Adam favourized Conrad over Jere. He tried to push him to be good at anything, academcially and physically in sports. Conrad put their dad on a podestal (words from the books). So Conrad being good at anything, ppl started to put him on a podestal as well, especially Jere. When Conrad found out abt his dad, it crushed his world. They one person he admired the most was a cheater and liar and the started to despise his dad for it. Jere always felt like second choice to their father. When being younger, he didn't mind it, but growing up, he started to feel frustrated and saw it as being unfair. He was always lookingup to Conrad. When Conrad changed that summer, he wasn't the perfect guy anymore ppl wanted him to be and Jere started to despise Conrad for it, bc he thought it was unfair ppl still favourized him. He also developed anger and jelousy torwards his brother. And quite frankly, this is the main issue I do have with Jeres character, bc this wasn't Conrads fault. It was their fathers for making him feel that way and created these insecurities in Jere, no Conrad. When Adam left the family, Conrad was the oldest one and was suddenly had to take care of things. He was raised to be the older and protective brother, but suddenly he had to fill in their dads position or at least he tried to. In the movie, you can see how he tried to take care of his mum and things around them. He would clean up and try to help around the house as good as possible. He didn't tell Jere abt the cheating and the cancer bc he wanted to protect Jere. He knew how important their dad was to Jere and how he also looked up to Adam. Conrad didn't want to take that away from Jere, he wanted to keep these messy things away from him out of protection. Was it always the right thing to do, probably not, but it came from goo intention. In the books and in the show, yoiuo can see how at least in the beinning, it was always abt competeing with Conrad for Jere. Jere always tried to compete with Conrad to impress their father, again Adams fault. Jere and Belly had always been good friends and her being all over Conrad stung him pretty bad. Yet another thing he thought he was abt to loose to his brother. He also thought it wasn't fair and that Conrad wasn't worthy of Bellys attention. Conrad was always there for Belly as well, he would guide her and teach her stuff. He helped her with trig, explained things to her when she didn't know them. He would go and buy her gift he kew would make her happy like junior mint and the glass unicorn. He cared for her as well big time. Conrad was in a bad place to start something with Belly and he partly knew it, that is way he tried to keep his distance in the first place. He always felt really happy around her, you can see that after the fourth of July. Clevelands words unfortunately made him doubt everything again. He is an introvert just like Belly and talking abt these kind of things is very hard for him. Jere is more open in that way as an extrovert. Doesn't mean Conrad ain't worthy of Bellys love. As for their Mum dying. Ofc this was very hard on both brothers. But ppl would call Conrad out on not being there enough. Conrad was going to college, as Susannah would've wanted him to be. She never would've let him stay at home. Even in the books Jere POV says, it wasn't Conrads fault, he also didn't always know how fast their Mum got worse, othrwise he would've stayed home. He tried to do it all, bc it's in his character. ´ Conrad tries to please ppl and puts his own feelings aside and not let ppl see what he feels. Yes he looks broody, but this doesn't mean ppl can see how he actually feels. And you saying he wasn't there when their Mum died. We don't even know that. I am pretty sure when things got really bad. In the books it is implied both Jere and Conrad were their when she actually died. Conrad does have his flaws ofc he has, doesn't mean he is the only one. Jere ain't the innocent sunshine boy everyone make him out to be. He punshed Conrad in the series, he downtalks on Conrad a lot, he calls him names and tried to embarrass Conrad infront of Belly, but it backfired. He guilty trips Belly whenever her and Conrad interact. His insecurities and his jealousy torwards Conrad and Belly bring out the worst in him imo, which ain't very fair imo. Also anothr thing...Conrad does have his issues and his actions ain't justified, but so aren't Jeres or Bellys. In s2, Conrad stood up and apologized to Jere abt his behaviour, but Jere never once apologized back, not even after starting something with Belly which, let's be honest, wasn't fair play at all. It's his brother ex girlfriend whom he shared a deep love relationship with. This sceneario is a pretty messed up one and post probably would ruin families in real life. Good thing it's fiction ;). Yes, Belly choose Jere at the end of s2 and I get why. She is young and she wants to enjoy life again, and Jere can give her this right now. Conrad needs to heal an grow some and take care of his inner demons. Belly buries her feelings for Conrad, but they ain't gone. As for the events in s3. Ppl would always argue that it was completely out of character for Belly and Jere to drift apart, but it wasn't. They are bost still young and they jumped into this reationship without Belly being fully over Conrad and with Jere still having growing up to do himself and heal as well. They wil go off to college together, they will meet new ppl, develop new interests and just grow apart. If they choose to not follow they exacct events from book 3, there is still enough content fr Belly and Jere not work in the long run. Jere is a laid back person in general and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Belly is someone who strives for new things and adventures and this will be a breaking point as well. Their time together will be good and it will be easier for them as long Conrads gone. But Conrad returning at some point, being grown up and himself again will twist things. Like I said in the beginning, Belly fell for him for all the right reason and she will again in s3. Conrad and Belly went all the way in s2. This is a big hange from books to show and I do think I know the reaoson for that. In the books, Belly wants to wait to go all the way with Jere without a particular reason mentioned. Now in the show, they will use this for Belly to not be ready go there with Jere, which imo will be the break up reason in s3. Jere will start to uestion their relationship and will see, that Belly is in fact always a tille tied to Conrad. Next to all the reasonable things love should be and bring, there is still a part where love doesn't always have specific reasons. It's just a natrual thing to be drwan to a person. So next to all the good things Conrad can provide, Belly will always be torn to him bc she can't help it. S3 will also show some of Jeres flaws a little bit more. We know they are there, but they weren't as obvious as Conrads so far. Again, they will have a great time together, but ultimately will grow apart and it won't be out of. Steven talking abt Conrad challenging Belly more. I think ppl misunderstood that big time. Challenging doesn't mean hard or constantly trying to work for love. Imo it means always trying to be the best verisonn of herself for the other person and wanting movement. This is what Conrad will be able to give Belly in the end and this something I feel like Belly will want from life. All in all, the endgame is already clear. There are so many hints and there is so much foreshadowing already pointing out Conrad and Belly. It was said they want to stay as close to the books as possible and luckily JH is deeply involved in the whole preocess, she knows which main plot are the important ones and she wants to stay true to them. The message behind Conrad and Bellys is second chances. Mistakes at young ages out of love, loss and grief shouldn't determine our future. Conrads path back is a very tough one and it should learn us it's worth fighting your way back into life and love. To learn you are worthy of the love you thought you weren't. The same goes for Belly. Ok so, this is it ;). Sory went a little overboard, but I think it's important to go into detail with these guys :).
Some interesting thoughts here. Hard disagree though. I think my main problem with Belly and Conrad ultimately being endgame is that nearly everything positive about their relationship is always told not shown, meaning that the show will continuously say they're soulmates and they see each other like no one else does but it NEVER actually proves it. With her and Jere it feels like the opposite, everything good about them together is shown clearly but the show never has the other characters desperately pushing or validating their relationship the way they do with Conrad. Characters say phrases like "for Belly, Conrad is the sun", yet every time they're together or even just on good terms all Conrad seems to do is push her away, not communicate and make her doubt herself a whole lot. The whole Conrad agenda pretty much every character has, apart from Taylor, just feels super forced. Everything with her and Jere just feels more natural and realistic. Though I'm about 90% sure she's gonna end up with Conrad, it would be a nice surprise if she actually ended up with Jere, especially since it's not the not the predictable ending pretty much everyone is expecting.
@@MysticVV I hardly do have to disagree here as well... Belly and Conrads connection was actually shown on many occasions. Their relationship is on a much deeper level than Jere and Bellys relationship if you watch their scenes together. Belly and COnrad would talk a lot about their past, their present, their future dreams and wishes. They are comfoortable enough to admit things to each other they would never tell anyone else. She does share a frienship with Jere, but it honestly is mostly on a surface level. Their frienship is the kind of friendship you would go for when needing fun and taking things off your mind. But it ain't the kind of friendship which changes you and brings you forward. Conrad and Belly scenes do feel so much more natural and Belly and Jere scenes. They would always be aware of each other, look at each other. Jere and Bellys romance is the forced one imo. If I wouldn't have known the books, I'd never have thought about them being romantically involved. There is no deeper connection. Jeres charatcer is driven by jealousy and anger torwards his brother. His been second to Conrad his whole life, he was raised that way. This is why he does see everything as a competition, he says it himself: "I know how much you like o win", Conrad: "It's not about winning for me it's about doing things the right way". This implies Jere seeing things as a competition while Conrad doesn't and it also shows how the brothers don't know each other at all. Unfortunately Jeres feeling for Belly would rbing out the worst in him. He craved for her attetion in a not very appealing way. He does try to make himself known and he actually uses Bellys vulnearable states to do so. If he doen't get the attetion he wants, he would make her feel guilty. Them getting together also felt very forced. Belly projected her feelings onto Jere, because he would say adn do all the things she so desperately wants. She even tries to please Jere on certain occasion e.g. the candy scene. She pretends liking the candy just to make Jere feel better. Belly and Jere are both similar in avoiding conflicts. They would work fine until facing heavier discussions and conflicts. They aren't coping well in these kind of situations. JH made sure to point out Jeres flaws way more than in the books for a reason. She does show his playful, flirty, jealous and also insecure charatcer. The storyline of s3 won't change I am pretty sure of it and this way ppl won't be able to say it was out of charatcer, because it never was. The events happening in boook 3 were very noticeable from the very start if you paied close attention and looked deeper into character. Even now in the show, their downfall is already visible. They reasons behind it and the issues coming along, how it's going to break them. They rushed into this relationship even though both weren't ready yet. Being friends with someone and being in a relationship are two different things. Even though it is important to be friends on the basis, not every friendship is meant to be a relationship. They will eventually grow apart and realise, that they both had this illusion of what a relationship btw them would be like. In the books, we learn how Belly idealizes Jere and puts him on a podestal "My Jeremiah would never do that...". She thinks he could never do anything to her disapproval, hurt her,...but he will because he is who he is. The same goes for Belly. Jere does have this picture of Jere but soon will realise he will never be everything to her. She will always stay connected to Conrad and they will develop different interests in general. Their picture of Life will differ big time. JH won't change endgame. In this case a very good thing is, that JH is deeply involved in the whole process and I am very thankful for that. She knows what is important to her fans and the mesage being Bonnie endgame. She is behind all the foreshadowing, the song lyrics, the hitns and references from the books. Changes made so far where made for a reason. She will change certain things. E.g. she said she might change the ending. It meason she is thinking about how the story she end in genreal, not endgame. The biggest book critisism was the very rushed ending with no closure. She knows that as so I am very positive she will do better this time. E.g. she will give more inside on Bellys journey abroad, on her and Conrad reconnection and she also will focus more on giving closure to all the charatcers relationships.
It’s so interesting to me how so many people completely look over the fact that Conrad has been paying attention to Belly for YEARS. He’s always seen who she really is, Jeremiah can only see what she has to offer. And that’s also not Jeremiah’s fault. Belly has shared her deepest and most secret thoughts with Conrad, that she can’t share with Jeremiah because she feels as if he wouldn’t understand. I agree that IN THIS MOMENT IN TIME, Jeremiah is what she needs right now. I just think that their relationship is so surface level compared to her and Conrad. As a Conrad girly, I hate how misunderstood he is. People need to dig a little deeper sometimes instead of just choosing to shit in him because he was being petty. I know for a fact that if the roles were reversed, Jeremiah and Belly would have acted the exact same way. Probably much worse. So people need to try harder to understand Conrad’s character more. ❤
My final thoughts on the love triangle as ive rewatched the entire series not just this season, but before i start im definitely on team Jeremiah because i can relate more to his character than Conrads. First even though im team Jeremiah doesn't mean i dont see the good in Conrad. I do believe his a good brother, son and tried his best to be a good boyfriend to Belly. He really did love her but his main problem is opening up and communicating which he did try to do but to little to late. I do believe as people get older they become better communicators which he will get better at. I also can see why Belly wanted to be with Conrad especially at the end of season 1. Now for Jeremiah. His character definitely grew more than any kther character from season 1 to season 2. I do believe he becomes more mature but I do wish he would've apologized to Conrad after their fight. I mean he did in his own way by helping him study and driving to school but i wanted to hear im sorry. I also believe you can see how much Jeremiah loves Belly by agreeing to give her up if thats what she wants and he even gave her an out again by saying it wont be like last summer. The thing that i will always fight people on is that Belly didn't have feelings for Jeremiah before last season because that isn't true. If she never had feelings for Jeremiah than she wouldn't agreed to kiss him in the pool when he asked if she ever thought of them together which she replied yes. Please dont quote the book because the show is different than the book. Finally, Belly now admits not once but twice that being with Jeremiah is real which scares her. She did it last season with Taylor and this season with Jeremiah. I believe it scared her because she never wants to lose Jeremiah in her life which you see cone through during this season which is why Belly was so happy when ever Jeremiah was around. Right now Jeremiah was the best choice because he fought for Belly, his always there for her and he told her to follow her dreams for volleyball because he knows thats what she really wants. Do i believe they will be end game no but oen could hope that they change the ending but i guess we will see in 2 years.
sorry but it will never be the same, belly and jere never dated they just kissed a few times, belly and conrad dated for months...it was a real relationship, So it's obvious that the reaction of both will be different.
I am so team Conrad it's painful. I knew I couldn't support Jere as soon as he interrupted Belly and Conrad with the fireworks, intentionally got between them, and then acted surprised and hurt when the two found their way back together again. He knew they had feelings for each other and put himself in the way, not considering what his brother and Belly truly wanted. Conrad has a lot to work on before being a good partner, especially in communication and processing emotions, but I can't help but feel like Jere has red flags hidden just below the surface. Belly not being honest with her feelings is by far the worst thing to happen this season though! It seems so clear that she is using Jere to get over Conrad but isn't being honest with herself about it. Neither Jere nor Conrad deserve that.
Everyone always loves to say this but when exactly is it pointed out that Belly's feelings/crush was always reciprocated? It was very much one sided until the summer she turned pretty, Conrad even said he never saw her that way before. But Jer was always her best friend so naturally there's feelings there. If Belly truly loved Conrad and it wasn't just infatuation she'd never fall for anyone else in the first place. Maybe Conrad was the distraction because being with Jer there's so much more at stake and she didn't want to lose her best friend.
OMG Lit love your vids❤ I’m team Jere but after this season I am sorta in the middle. I’m also gonna lean towards Jere tho bc of his big heart🤍 I love Jere but Conrad MIGHT be more fit for belly. It’s really funny tho bc all my friends are Team Conrad, and they try to convince me but I CANTTT. I lit cried this whole ep… AND OMG THATS KISS love ur reactions Please comment back🩷
“Jere’s better for her but she’s not better for him.”
Now, you have really said something there. That was poetic. Spoken word at its finest.
Ans Belly doesn't have the self awarness to realize that😢
i just wanna say, props to Jeremiah for being so mature. Everyone calls him immature and childish but no one can deny that he handled this situation with maturity and grace, even if it caused him pain, he just wanted Belly and Conrad to be happy with each other if its what BOTH of them want. my poor baby😭
They changed his whole character in the last episode
jelly getting Beyoncé is just untoppable
With Beyonce, everything is right
I loved this finale! This episode I was super impressed by how maturely Jeremiah handled everything. I’m proud of him being the one to tell Belly she needed to talk to Conrad, and being the first one to tell Conrad that he just wants the both of them to be happy, and that he’ll step aside if she chooses him. I’m really proud of Belly too. She finally realized how Conrad is, and that it isn’t her job to fix him. Nobody can say after this episode, that Belly didn’t choose Jere of her own free will. I’m glad they had her choose Jere even after Conrad admitted his feelings. As a Jelly shipper, I’m not sure what’s going to happen in season 3, but short of completely destroying Belly and Jeremiah’s characters, (which would be extremely disappointing) I don’t see how they’re going to make Bonrad endgame. Regardless, for now I’m just going to enjoy what we have, and I hope we get to see a lot of college cuteness between Belly and Jeremiah. I can’t wait to see them in a relationship! Also, Lola and Gavin’s chemistry continues to be perfection. I can’t believe we got XO by Beyoncé! That was iconic.
Conrad is doing this all for his brother, that’s the thing that everyone seems to forget. He’s giving up belly and his love so his brother can be happy. And that’s the best way to look after his brother.
Exactly...
Yes, he does want his brother to be happy but when he Took back what he said to belly, he wasn’t just doing that for jere he was doing that for himself, because he got scared and wanted to back out. And I get that he thinks that this will make Jeremiah happy, but it doesn’t make him happy to know that he is the second option because Conrad didn’t say his feelings sooner or went back on his word
No because one thing that I hate about love triangles is the fact that there is always a very clear bias towards one of the love intrests despise the fact that the other is objectively the better choice. Like literally why everyone in this show is soooo obsessed with conrad even Susannah wants belly to pick him despite the fact that she knows that jere also loves her and that it's hurting him... Miss girl that is your son aswell ??!!! 💀
But anyways thank u so much for your reactions your editing always gets me 😂
Yes all of this!! And when she asked belly to look after Conrad, I was like um hello, you have another son! Who you know also loves Belly. Wouldn’t you say look after my boys, y’all all look after each other, and be there for one another. All of you!
Wouldn't it be weird if she wanted belly to married her sons? She obviously knows how belly feels about him
Everyone in that family knows belly wants conrad.. all in season 1 it was in your face
"Every birthday and shooting stars my wish was Conrad"
It's literally belly in s1
They say it all the time it's always gonna be Conrad
The memes and little clips she puts in, fits so well with what's happening in the show.
Thank you so much ❤️😭😭
REALL AND THERE SO FUNNY😭😭😭
The one thing that irked me this episode was how Belly scoffed when Conrad asked to just be friends, when she was all over Jeremiah. She needs to be dead set with who she wants to be with or she’s just going to hurt everyone again 😭😭😭
"I mean he did literally give her fireworks" I'm deaddddd. I love how conflicted you were, I really came into the show thinking Conrad was gonna be the best endgame but Jeremiah immediately won me over I love to see it happen to others🤣🥰 also the 'I heard Jere has a whole different personality next season', I hopeeeee it's not like that god give my man a fighting chance & Steven rooting so hard against him after they were besties season 1 hurt but go off I guess -- also your editing is so good!
😂😂😂 thank you so much. This episode really was a rough one. I’m hoping they give him a fighting chance too. He really deserves to be happy and what I’ve heard happens seems so out of character for him. Especially when it comes to Belly. And yeah, that plot point really made no sense to me. If anything, he should have just been on the side of whatever made Belly happy. I think when she told him she was out of her mind in love was probably what solidified Conrad for him. Just hoping next season isn’t as messy 😭😭 and thank you! I appreciate it 😘💕
@@TajinaeTurner Love your reactions! :) And yes, it was so out of character. It will especially be after season 2. Book 3 Jere won’t really even make complete sense anymore after how mature they made Jere in season 2. Book 2 to book 3 was like whiplash. Jeremiah’s character was assassinated to justify a Bonrad endgame. It will be interesting to see what direction they go in, but I listened to Gavin and Chris say they think season 3 will closely follow book 3, and that will a hard sell for me.
I’ve read the books and I also know how it’s gonna end I was team jelly in the books and I AM HARDCORE team jelly in the show like look at the material at the chemistry how can u not root for them … if a girl loves 2 boys she should choose the 2nd one cause if she really truly loved the first one she wouldn’t of have fallen in love with the 2nd one ….. and hello best friends to lovers trope what else can u wish for 😩💓💓 #TEAMJELLY 4 life
Same! team Jelly in the books and the show! And their chemistry is insane!!
Jere better in everyway imo (the show), belly just loves the idea of Conrad from young imo, love how neutral you are and pick up on things that a lot of other reactors don’t🤝❤️
girl you just got that entirely mixed up LMAO
It's like Conrad's experiencing what Jere had been through and vice versa and I don't know how to feel about it knowing that she'll end up with Conrad anyway haha she could've just distanced herself after having a heart-to-heart talk to the brothers, grow have time for herself to mature but no haha
i think that you are team jelly in your heart but you just don’t want jere to get hurt but it’s really obvious that you are team jelly deep down! live laugh love teamjelly
I’m def team Jeremiah and I’m a firm believer that he grew so much from season 1-2 while Conrad not so much and yeah we can blame Susannah death but honestly that excuse is played out let’s come up with another excuse now I do feel bad for BOTH of the boys honesty maybe I’m just a belly anti😂😂
Maybe you never went through the death of someone in the family so you don't know
but Conrad mom was dying and belly cared more about prom
@@JaySewani Wasn't Susannah dying when Conrad was with Nicole, didn't he know then? Isn't he the one who hid that fact from Jere? Didn't he know his mom was dying, when he went for Belly, when Belly was with Cam? Wasn't Jere the one taking care of his mom when Conrad wasn't even around? Yes, Susannah was sick, but when he took her to prom, she wasn't that bad. You Conrad fans just don't like the fact that she piked Jere. Everyone handles grief differently, but the way he acted at her prom cannot be justified, if he truly loved her. Maybe she was wrong, she expected too much from him at Prom, or from the relationship in general. That's why she tells Jere: "I always dreamt of what it would be like to be with Conrad, but dreams aren't real.". She had built up a version of Conrad in her head that she wanted to be with, but when she was with him, it didn't feel the same or real. Sort of feels like she was infatuated (or obsession masqueraded as love) with him, but ended up forcing herself to love him. Now I know what's going to happen next, you are going to bring up the book, and the cheating plot. Honestly, I don't care. Didn't think it was cheating when Ross did it to Rachel, and don't think its cheating now.
@@gooner-all-the-wayfrom the prom to the funeral happen in a week Conrad knew his mom was getting worst because of the medication switch.
Jeremiah taking care of his mom ?? Why use that against conrad ? 😂 Like it's a L Conrad didn't take care of his mom. Conrad was away and came home every chance he could. He didn't even visit belly much they had long distance relationship. I think this teams things is getting in your head because none of these characters are perfect
Jeremiah in season 1 almost hit belly & Conrad with a firework to stop a kiss??? In season 2 he admits he always hated Conrad. Jeremiah has flaws as well he sees Conrad as a threat. When Conrad didn't even know Jeremiah like belly after he found out . He went to talk to Jere for his blessing
Belly ain't a saint either like ppl always go with back & forth to make Conrad or Jeremiah looks bad when belly is the problem. How you gonna kiss your ex's brother on his car with his sweatshirt and expect him to be okay with it .s3 belly gonna be worse because she still wants conrad and with the cam thing belly legit broke up with cam and went straight to Conrad.😂 Since s1 they been setting up Conrad to be endgame
14:56-15:02 HE LITERALLY IS😢😢😢 HE LITERALLY MADE ME CRY DURING THAT SCENE😭😭😭
Im team Jeremiah
Loved your reactions!! This episode was tough for Conrad shippers. Belly finally realized that Conrad wasnt ready for the type of relationship she wanted. It took loosing him in her kife to reakize just what he neant to her. With Jeremiah she can be herself. He will be there for her through everything, good and bad. He sees her for who she is and what she can be. It was sad for Conrad but what he needed in order to grow.
The Jelly kiss for ep 8 will always be SWEET AND SPICY🥵🥵 THE HAND PLACEMENT I CAN'T 😏😏🤤🤤🤤 XOXO PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND WAS TOP TIER🙌🏽🙌🏽
the whole time Trusky (Conrad's roomate i think thats his name) was talking about how good looking Jeremiah is and his ocean eyes, i kept screaming cuz i LITERALLY said the same thing before the scene😭
The Swedish fish part frustrates me so much as a viewer. They spent so much time explaining to the audience that Jere remembers everything about Belly but he randomly forgot her fav candy?? It doesn’t make sense. Also, in the books, Belly loves Swedish fish.
If they wanted to hype up Conrad or imply that he knows her better, they should’ve found a less lazy way of doing it, plot wise, this one made no sense.
THANK U !! 🙏🙏
it actually makes sense. Its just that you have only seen Jeres perspective. What he thought happened is the way he sees it, but it doesnt mean its the truth. Jere always assumed Conrads feelings, saying he didnt have a right cause he didnt care before which is totally false. For the people who have read the books it is clear that Conrad always had a special place for Belly and he paid attention to a lot of things since they were kids and you can see that literally in the first seconds of the first episode of S1. S1 was meant for Belly POV, season 2 was Jeres POV and S3 will be Conrads. For you to really get the whole picture and judge, you have to know all the POVS.
@@greatperhaps that’s not what I said, I said that Jere is supposed to know everything about Belly, including that she liked virgin strawberry daiquiri’s because of the mini umbrella, which even Susannah forgot, but suddenly he doesn’t know her favourite candy. It’s lazy writing. I never said Conrad doesn’t know her, just that the sour patch/Swedish berry thing doesn’t make sense given what they’ve established about Jere.
@@crystalpritchard5065 Jere knows her but the things he remembers about her are things she used to like when they were younger. People grow up and even tho she still likes some of the same things, theres others that might have changed. Conrad and Belly dated for a long time, so its obvious he would know something like that because its something she likes in the present
@@greatperhapsI do see where you are coming from on how people can change when they get older and maybe Belly did change her favorite candy but I still believe that Jeremiah might've known that. He knew what kind of pie she wanted, her favorite slushy, that she was scared just by looking at her, that she still loves volleyball, he remembers everything she says or likes because he is her best friend and in love with her. I think the writers wanted to put some doubts in the viewers minds which is why they put the candy scene in there.
Great reaction video like always. I believe that their were to major scenes for Jelly this episode that many people might not know about or look at.
The first scene is was Belly and Susannah which set up this entire season. Belly promises Susannah that she will take care of Conrad which she did by helping Jere find him, helping him keep the house, helping him get into Brown and finally by letting him go at the end so he can enjoy Stanford. Also, in that scene she sees Jeremiah and realizes everything his been going through over the year by him taking care of Susannah. In that moment she knew that she wanted Jere back in her life as her best friend which is why she called him in episode 1 and apologized to him in episode 2.
The second scene was the motel room scene. Gavin admits in an interview that Jere was up when Conrad and Belly were talking. That explains why he left because he thought Belly was chosing Conrad again and he wanted to mentally come to terms with it which he did. That's why he didn't want to look at her or believe it. Also, I enjoyed how you noticed that Belly didn't want to run after Conrad but did run after Jeremiah. I believe that was the shows way of really showing who Belly wants to be with right now.
Gavin was referring to himself not JeremiH when he said he was awake during that scene in the interview you are referring to.
I thought so at first too but than Chris says I love how Jeremiah was a sleep and that's when Gavin replies I wasn't a sleep. Which I take it to mean that the character wasn't a sleep not the actor because Chris knows Gavin wasn't a sleep
im sorry, but when they played XO by Beyoncé i was DONE😭 I LOVE THAT SONG SO MUCH ITS SO BEAUTIFUL🤭💕
I really don’t care ab who belly end up wit I just want Jer to be happy
It was so nice to see Jere finally happy
girll please be doing this for season three 😭😭🤞🏼🤞🏼
you already know it! (:
@@TajinaeTurner YAYYYY💗💗💗
@@TajinaeTurner if she doesn’t want Conrad I’ll take him🤷🏻♀️
28:44-28:47 JERE BEAR IS ADORABLE 😍🥰🥰
Without knowing the ending in the books i think we'd all be rooting for Jere and can clearly see how even though Conrad loves belly he's not what she needs, but our own bias of wanting to be on the winning teams deludes us into justifying Conrad's actions. Yes, he went through a hard time but so did Jer and he never once hurt belly. Im actually so upset that they tarnished his character in the last book to let bonrad have their endgame because it's not like Jere. Both belly and Conrad led people on in the first season but never Jere. If the show ends like the books it only perpetuates the idea that good guys come last which is terrible. Belly deserves to grow as a person and not be bound to the infatuation she had for Conrad as a child. The sweet moments Conrad gives doesn't undo the pain he's caused. All throughout belly is always concerned about Jeremiah's feelings way more which shows who she really loves. We love to say Belly caused this mess but she tried establishing boundaries so many times and Conrad crossed them all. Jer deserves his happy ending the most.
You're right, Belly doesn't deserve him. He's better off with somebody else.
Thank you soo much for putting this out there because i needed to know what happened without watch 2 full seasons on prime (which i don't have anymoree) and the whole timelines got messed up with all those edits
Of course (: glad you enjoyed !
Jere is literally the most mature character on this show
13:36-13:40 She knew what she was doing 👀👀
the way they made out on conrad’s car in his sweatshirt is crazy
OMG THE WAY I SCREAMED WHN I SAY U POSTED
The" oh my god what if kills junior mint" Add me dying😂😭🙏💀
aghhhh i get sooo happy watching your vids taj
That makes me so happy to hear! So glad you enjoy them!! ❤️
The nostalgia I felt during 2:46 bc of the song from the Bratz movie omg
Haha 😂😂❤️
No, I’m in the middle of book too, and she says when she takes her candy when she was little 10 big pieces of Swedish fish I didn’t say sour patch kids like excuse me
9:54 no he didn't... that was conrad was in the show and was the books
7:04-7:06 THANK U👏🏽👏🏽
Yesssss
Belly really toyed with both brothers this season. I hope we see a more mature version of her in Season 3.
The thing is jere put himself in this situation he knows belly loves conrad and he knew this in season 1 and he still choose to date her a few months after Conrad and belly broke up. And they decide to kiss while in Conrad’s college on his car and belly wearing his sweater. Also I hate when they conrad is messy during the car ride it’s so wrong because how would you react seeing your brother kiss your ex in front of you and then just have no feelings towards him about how it would feel. When conrad kiss belly he didn’t even know about Jere and her but Jere knew about belly and conrad. And he chooses to insert himself in this situation.
They never dated in season 1 thou and it’s not like you can really control who your heart wants. If anything Conrad was more fucked by kissing her at the end and then belly having to convince him to wait to start dating cause he never considers Jeres feelings fr. And he literally was messy in the car like sure it was funny and for a reason but that doesn’t make it any less hurtful. Conrad should’ve been the younger brother cause jere is way more mature. To me it’s been the pattern of Conrad realizing he wants her when she’s w someone else. Jere always knew belly liked Conrad sure but childhood crushes are a thing and Conrad never once reciprocated it till later so idk what’s so wrong of him for trying himself.
He definitely knew they had something going on I mean in season 1 Shayla told him at the party, he just never takes here serious
it’s giving “the summer i turned petty” 😭
just finished the whole tsitp reactions,best reactor out there and it was fun all way long with those edits,cant wait for season 3 reaction
Thank you so much! I’m so happy you enjoyed!
EXILE PLAYING DURING CONRAD'S SCENE MADE ME CRY FR
Conrad and belly need each other Jere can just leave he’s annoying
Im not watching season 3 because i onow they'll probably fck everything up. In my mind jelly is endgame IDC
I totally get the team belly from the actors with the which brother drama, where like neither is the right fit/thing
BRO I WAS TEAM JELLYFISHER BEFORE I EVEN STARTED WATCHING THE SUMMER I TURNED PRETTY
even tho im a Jere girlie, i did feel REALLY bad for Conrad this episode😭
Can’t wait for season 3!!!
I know right!!!! SAG-AFTRA needs to end the strike so they can get back to work.
@@kimberlyherff3374it just ended!!!
“In my heart I’m team Jere” same
i love belly with jere, jere is literally a safe place
Can't wait for season 3 to come out I'm reading the books while I wait lol and watching fan made videos lol
Im team conrad forever
8:34 is that Katya😭
Pls do a season 3
I’m so conflicted cause idk who’s team I’m on😭 I love them bothhhhhhh. I think I’ll be happy with whoever she ends up with, but I just don’t want either of the boys to get hurt😭 like I love belly and Jeremiah together but I also really like them as besties. And I love belly and Conrad aswell so idkkkk😭😭 i love Conrad and Jeremiah and I want the, to be there for each otherrr. so I don’t want the boys getting hurt, I love them sm😔😔
OMG NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS CRAZY 😮😮😮😮😮
People who think she should watch miraculous ladybug next 👇👇👇👇
Literally obsessed with that show 😭😭😭
16:25-16:31 RIGHT?!? ALWAYS FINE AS HELL😍😍🤤🤤
Do you react at the full episodes ? Plus I love you so so much I like ur react videos ❤❤❤
Yes! They are all on my Patreon (:
did you makes one for the 3 one ?????????????????
I hate this cuz it’s weird to me her belly dating her best friend Jeremiah, tense why I’m a Conrad shipper in the books and now especially in the show
why the best friends to lovers trope so flop in this show 😭 like it has always been a fave trope
@@wildestdreams7721 not for me it’s weird to me dating a bff
bff to lover is not a weird trope it's actually one of the most healthy trope it's just u who prolly likes toxic trope
@@noze1540 yes it is to me it’s definately weird
@@karalynnlovison1998 tells me what kind of a person u are. but okay
21:24-21:27 CUTE EDIT😂❤❤
As a Team Conrad person, I do can accept Jere and Belly being together for now.
I want to try to break down my thoughts a little bit...
First of all, yes, I do see how Jere grw this season, but he ain't completely there yet. He still has many things to work on. Second, Conrad grew this seaosn as well. He strated to open up more and more and it's really sad how ppl overlook that. He starts to admit to his mistakes and even apologises for them. So this is still my main problem with Jere, he didn't apologize so far, but he should've as well. They both messed things up over time.
Conrad was always potrayed to have been this smart, funny, happy a little introvert guy. He used to protect the younger ones and guide them, especially Belly. He would teach Belly stuff, explain things to her and would give her gifts (uniconr, junior mint). We do know he liked Belly before, he just didn't know it was love. Belly fell for Conrad for all the right reasons, yes he was her first crush, but it wasn't some obsession and it wasn't unhealthy for her to like Conrad, he always has been a great guy and that is why she fell for him in the first place.
Jere and Conrad a very different ppl, they are so different that in real life, they probably wouldn't be close friends.
Conrad is an introvert and a shy person, it has always been hard for him to open up to ppl, unlike Jere. Jere is an extrovert.moments.
Conrad was closer to his father when growing up, but the reason behind it ain't a pleasent one. Adam favourized Conrad over Jere. He tried to push him to be good at anything, academcially and physically in sports. Conrad put their dad on a podestal (words from the books). So Conrad being good at anything, ppl started to put him on a podestal as well, especially Jere. When Conrad found out abt his dad, it crushed his world. They one person he admired the most was a cheater and liar and the started to despise his dad for it. Jere always felt like second choice to their father. When being younger, he didn't mind it, but growing up, he started to feel frustrated and saw it as being unfair. He was always lookingup to Conrad. When Conrad changed that summer, he wasn't the perfect guy anymore ppl wanted him to be and Jere started to despise Conrad for it, bc he thought it was unfair ppl still favourized him. He also developed anger and jelousy torwards his brother. And quite frankly, this is the main issue I do have with Jeres character, bc this wasn't Conrads fault. It was their fathers for making him feel that way and created these insecurities in Jere, no Conrad. When Adam left the family, Conrad was the oldest one and was suddenly had to take care of things. He was raised to be the older and protective brother, but suddenly he had to fill in their dads position or at least he tried to. In the movie, you can see how he tried to take care of his mum and things around them. He would clean up and try to help around the house as good as possible. He didn't tell Jere abt the cheating and the cancer bc he wanted to protect Jere. He knew how important their dad was to Jere and how he also looked up to Adam. Conrad didn't want to take that away from Jere, he wanted to keep these messy things away from him out of protection. Was it always the right thing to do, probably not, but it came from goo intention. In the books and in the show, yoiuo can see how at least in the beinning, it was always abt competeing with Conrad for Jere.
Jere always tried to compete with Conrad to impress their father, again Adams fault. Jere and Belly had always been good friends and her being all over Conrad stung him pretty bad. Yet another thing he thought he was abt to loose to his brother. He also thought it wasn't fair and that Conrad wasn't worthy of Bellys attention. Conrad was always there for Belly as well, he would guide her and teach her stuff. He helped her with trig, explained things to her when she didn't know them. He would go and buy her gift he kew would make her happy like junior mint and the glass unicorn. He cared for her as well big time. Conrad was in a bad place to start something with Belly and he partly knew it, that is way he tried to keep his distance in the first place. He always felt really happy around her, you can see that after the fourth of July. Clevelands words unfortunately made him doubt everything again. He is an introvert just like Belly and talking abt these kind of things is very hard for him. Jere is more open in that way as an extrovert. Doesn't mean Conrad ain't worthy of Bellys love. As for their Mum dying. Ofc this was very hard on both brothers. But ppl would call Conrad out on not being there enough. Conrad was going to college, as Susannah would've wanted him to be. She never would've let him stay at home. Even in the books Jere POV says, it wasn't Conrads fault, he also didn't always know how fast their Mum got worse, othrwise he would've stayed home. He tried to do it all, bc it's in his character.
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Conrad tries to please ppl and puts his own feelings aside and not let ppl see what he feels. Yes he looks broody, but this doesn't mean ppl can see how he actually feels. And you saying he wasn't there when their Mum died. We don't even know that. I am pretty sure when things got really bad. In the books it is implied both Jere and Conrad were their when she actually died. Conrad does have his flaws ofc he has, doesn't mean he is the only one. Jere ain't the innocent sunshine boy everyone make him out to be. He punshed Conrad in the series, he downtalks on Conrad a lot, he calls him names and tried to embarrass Conrad infront of Belly, but it backfired. He guilty trips Belly whenever her and Conrad interact. His insecurities and his jealousy torwards Conrad and Belly bring out the worst in him imo, which ain't very fair imo. Also anothr thing...Conrad does have his issues and his actions ain't justified, but so aren't Jeres or Bellys.
In s2, Conrad stood up and apologized to Jere abt his behaviour, but Jere never once apologized back, not even after starting something with Belly which, let's be honest, wasn't fair play at all. It's his brother ex girlfriend whom he shared a deep love relationship with. This sceneario is a pretty messed up one and post probably would ruin families in real life. Good thing it's fiction ;).
Yes, Belly choose Jere at the end of s2 and I get why. She is young and she wants to enjoy life again, and Jere can give her this right now. Conrad needs to heal an grow some and take care of his inner demons. Belly buries her feelings for Conrad, but they ain't gone.
As for the events in s3. Ppl would always argue that it was completely out of character for Belly and Jere to drift apart, but it wasn't. They are bost still young and they jumped into this reationship without Belly being fully over Conrad and with Jere still having growing up to do himself and heal as well. They wil go off to college together, they will meet new ppl, develop new interests and just grow apart. If they choose to not follow they exacct events from book 3, there is still enough content fr Belly and Jere not work in the long run. Jere is a laid back person in general and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Belly is someone who strives for new things and adventures and this will be a breaking point as well. Their time together will be good and it will be easier for them as long Conrads gone. But Conrad returning at some point, being grown up and himself again will twist things. Like I said in the beginning, Belly fell for him for all the right reason and she will again in s3. Conrad and Belly went all the way in s2. This is a big hange from books to show and I do think I know the reaoson for that. In the books, Belly wants to wait to go all the way with Jere without a particular reason mentioned. Now in the show, they will use this for Belly to not be ready go there with Jere, which imo will be the break up reason in s3. Jere will start to uestion their relationship and will see, that Belly is in fact always a tille tied to Conrad. Next to all the reasonable things love should be and bring, there is still a part where love doesn't always have specific reasons. It's just a natrual thing to be drwan to a person. So next to all the good things Conrad can provide, Belly will always be torn to him bc she can't help it.
S3 will also show some of Jeres flaws a little bit more. We know they are there, but they weren't as obvious as Conrads so far.
Again, they will have a great time together, but ultimately will grow apart and it won't be out of.
Steven talking abt Conrad challenging Belly more. I think ppl misunderstood that big time. Challenging doesn't mean hard or constantly trying to work for love. Imo it means always trying to be the best verisonn of herself for the other person and wanting movement. This is what Conrad will be able to give Belly in the end and this something I feel like Belly will want from life.
All in all, the endgame is already clear. There are so many hints and there is so much foreshadowing already pointing out Conrad and Belly. It was said they want to stay as close to the books as possible and luckily JH is deeply involved in the whole preocess, she knows which main plot are the important ones and she wants to stay true to them. The message behind Conrad and Bellys is second chances. Mistakes at young ages out of love, loss and grief shouldn't determine our future. Conrads path back is a very tough one and it should learn us it's worth fighting your way back into life and love. To learn you are worthy of the love you thought you weren't. The same goes for Belly.
Ok so, this is it ;). Sory went a little overboard, but I think it's important to go into detail with these guys :).
Some interesting thoughts here. Hard disagree though.
I think my main problem with Belly and Conrad ultimately being endgame is that nearly everything positive about their relationship is always told not shown, meaning that the show will continuously say they're soulmates and they see each other like no one else does but it NEVER actually proves it. With her and Jere it feels like the opposite, everything good about them together is shown clearly but the show never has the other characters desperately pushing or validating their relationship the way they do with Conrad. Characters say phrases like "for Belly, Conrad is the sun", yet every time they're together or even just on good terms all Conrad seems to do is push her away, not communicate and make her doubt herself a whole lot. The whole Conrad agenda pretty much every character has, apart from Taylor, just feels super forced. Everything with her and Jere just feels more natural and realistic. Though I'm about 90% sure she's gonna end up with Conrad, it would be a nice surprise if she actually ended up with Jere, especially since it's not the not the predictable ending pretty much everyone is expecting.
@@MysticVV I hardly do have to disagree here as well...
Belly and Conrads connection was actually shown on many occasions. Their relationship is on a much deeper level than Jere and Bellys relationship if you watch their scenes together. Belly and COnrad would talk a lot about their past, their present, their future dreams and wishes. They are comfoortable enough to admit things to each other they would never tell anyone else. She does share a frienship with Jere, but it honestly is mostly on a surface level. Their frienship is the kind of friendship you would go for when needing fun and taking things off your mind. But it ain't the kind of friendship which changes you and brings you forward. Conrad and Belly scenes do feel so much more natural and Belly and Jere scenes. They would always be aware of each other, look at each other. Jere and Bellys romance is the forced one imo. If I wouldn't have known the books, I'd never have thought about them being romantically involved. There is no deeper connection. Jeres charatcer is driven by jealousy and anger torwards his brother. His been second to Conrad his whole life, he was raised that way. This is why he does see everything as a competition, he says it himself: "I know how much you like o win", Conrad: "It's not about winning for me it's about doing things the right way". This implies Jere seeing things as a competition while Conrad doesn't and it also shows how the brothers don't know each other at all. Unfortunately Jeres feeling for Belly would rbing out the worst in him. He craved for her attetion in a not very appealing way. He does try to make himself known and he actually uses Bellys vulnearable states to do so. If he doen't get the attetion he wants, he would make her feel guilty. Them getting together also felt very forced. Belly projected her feelings onto Jere, because he would say adn do all the things she so desperately wants. She even tries to please Jere on certain occasion e.g. the candy scene. She pretends liking the candy just to make Jere feel better. Belly and Jere are both similar in avoiding conflicts. They would work fine until facing heavier discussions and conflicts. They aren't coping well in these kind of situations. JH made sure to point out Jeres flaws way more than in the books for a reason. She does show his playful, flirty, jealous and also insecure charatcer. The storyline of s3 won't change I am pretty sure of it and this way ppl won't be able to say it was out of charatcer, because it never was. The events happening in boook 3 were very noticeable from the very start if you paied close attention and looked deeper into character. Even now in the show, their downfall is already visible. They reasons behind it and the issues coming along, how it's going to break them. They rushed into this relationship even though both weren't ready yet. Being friends with someone and being in a relationship are two different things. Even though it is important to be friends on the basis, not every friendship is meant to be a relationship. They will eventually grow apart and realise, that they both had this illusion of what a relationship btw them would be like. In the books, we learn how Belly idealizes Jere and puts him on a podestal "My Jeremiah would never do that...". She thinks he could never do anything to her disapproval, hurt her,...but he will because he is who he is. The same goes for Belly. Jere does have this picture of Jere but soon will realise he will never be everything to her. She will always stay connected to Conrad and they will develop different interests in general. Their picture of Life will differ big time. JH won't change endgame. In this case a very good thing is, that JH is deeply involved in the whole process and I am very thankful for that. She knows what is important to her fans and the mesage being Bonnie endgame. She is behind all the foreshadowing, the song lyrics, the hitns and references from the books. Changes made so far where made for a reason. She will change certain things. E.g. she said she might change the ending. It meason she is thinking about how the story she end in genreal, not endgame. The biggest book critisism was the very rushed ending with no closure. She knows that as so I am very positive she will do better this time. E.g. she will give more inside on Bellys journey abroad, on her and Conrad reconnection and she also will focus more on giving closure to all the charatcers relationships.
@@MysticVVyes to all of this 👏
Did anyone notice the letters fall out i think that how they got switched in book 3.
Team Conrad ❤
It’s so interesting to me how so many people completely look over the fact that Conrad has been paying attention to Belly for YEARS. He’s always seen who she really is, Jeremiah can only see what she has to offer. And that’s also not Jeremiah’s fault. Belly has shared her deepest and most secret thoughts with Conrad, that she can’t share with Jeremiah because she feels as if he wouldn’t understand. I agree that IN THIS MOMENT IN TIME, Jeremiah is what she needs right now. I just think that their relationship is so surface level compared to her and Conrad. As a Conrad girly, I hate how misunderstood he is. People need to dig a little deeper sometimes instead of just choosing to shit in him because he was being petty. I know for a fact that if the roles were reversed, Jeremiah and Belly would have acted the exact same way. Probably much worse. So people need to try harder to understand Conrad’s character more. ❤
omg if you are going to swich teams too i’m literally going to cry😭😭
My final thoughts on the love triangle as ive rewatched the entire series not just this season, but before i start im definitely on team Jeremiah because i can relate more to his character than Conrads.
First even though im team Jeremiah doesn't mean i dont see the good in Conrad. I do believe his a good brother, son and tried his best to be a good boyfriend to Belly. He really did love her but his main problem is opening up and communicating which he did try to do but to little to late. I do believe as people get older they become better communicators which he will get better at. I also can see why Belly wanted to be with Conrad especially at the end of season 1.
Now for Jeremiah. His character definitely grew more than any kther character from season 1 to season 2. I do believe he becomes more mature but I do wish he would've apologized to Conrad after their fight. I mean he did in his own way by helping him study and driving to school but i wanted to hear im sorry. I also believe you can see how much Jeremiah loves Belly by agreeing to give her up if thats what she wants and he even gave her an out again by saying it wont be like last summer.
The thing that i will always fight people on is that Belly didn't have feelings for Jeremiah before last season because that isn't true. If she never had feelings for Jeremiah than she wouldn't agreed to kiss him in the pool when he asked if she ever thought of them together which she replied yes. Please dont quote the book because the show is different than the book.
Finally, Belly now admits not once but twice that being with Jeremiah is real which scares her. She did it last season with Taylor and this season with Jeremiah. I believe it scared her because she never wants to lose Jeremiah in her life which you see cone through during this season which is why Belly was so happy when ever Jeremiah was around.
Right now Jeremiah was the best choice because he fought for Belly, his always there for her and he told her to follow her dreams for volleyball because he knows thats what she really wants. Do i believe they will be end game no but oen could hope that they change the ending but i guess we will see in 2 years.
Taj before s2 : oh I love Conrad and Belly :)
Taj after s2 : oh I love Jerry :)
And then there’s Cam Cameron : who shall forever be in her heart .
sorry but it will never be the same, belly and jere never dated they just kissed a few times, belly and conrad dated for months...it was a real relationship, So it's obvious that the reaction of both will be different.
I am so team Conrad it's painful. I knew I couldn't support Jere as soon as he interrupted Belly and Conrad with the fireworks, intentionally got between them, and then acted surprised and hurt when the two found their way back together again. He knew they had feelings for each other and put himself in the way, not considering what his brother and Belly truly wanted. Conrad has a lot to work on before being a good partner, especially in communication and processing emotions, but I can't help but feel like Jere has red flags hidden just below the surface.
Belly not being honest with her feelings is by far the worst thing to happen this season though! It seems so clear that she is using Jere to get over Conrad but isn't being honest with herself about it. Neither Jere nor Conrad deserve that.
Everyone always loves to say this but when exactly is it pointed out that Belly's feelings/crush was always reciprocated? It was very much one sided until the summer she turned pretty, Conrad even said he never saw her that way before. But Jer was always her best friend so naturally there's feelings there. If Belly truly loved Conrad and it wasn't just infatuation she'd never fall for anyone else in the first place. Maybe Conrad was the distraction because being with Jer there's so much more at stake and she didn't want to lose her best friend.
I agree ☝️ 💯
OMG Lit love your vids❤
I’m team Jere but after this season I am sorta in the middle.
I’m also gonna lean towards Jere tho bc of his big heart🤍
I love Jere but Conrad MIGHT be more fit for belly.
It’s really funny tho bc all my friends are Team Conrad, and they try to convince me but I CANTTT.
I lit cried this whole ep…
AND OMG THATS KISS
love ur reactions Please comment back🩷
You should do a reaction to the outer banks seasons
Team jelly
13:26-13:34😂😂❤
I’m team jere
and i wonder how people are still team conrad after this episode.
7:55-8:01😂😂😂
Honestly he did do her wrong she chose the right choice
Are you that girl from shrek cheerleader team
U need to react to s3
Im not team jer but they have to be endgame
DEFINITELY TEAM CONRAD ❤
Team jeramiah all the way!❤❤❤
Why’s there no 1000 quality , it’s ab it nblurrwy
So sorry, my main footage got deleted and I only had the compressed version 😭
Ohhhh @@TajinaeTurner
So isn’t there a season three so can u pls do it 🤤😩
Are u going to do season 3@@TajinaeTurner
YAY❤❤
i HATE belly that's all i have to say i DESPISE her
Literally, she kept going back and forth between the guys like girl 🤦♀️
Sorry,BUT IM TEAM JELYFISHHHH
ME TOO!!!!!!
Not con’s roommate making it worse 💀💀💀
EARLYYY
wiii finally :)
Please do season 3 , there is a season 3 righttttttt 🥹😃😭😘😘😚 pls I’d be so happy
Season 3 comes out in 2025 😊
@@daffodills7184 😢😢 All my dreams were crushed in a instant