FACTS! Everyone was tripping when he said he's a better lyricist than Kendrick. Kendrick is an AMAZING lyricist but Lupe is top 3 GREATEST lyricists EVER
After Lost Tapes II, its very clear that even if we don’t hear from Nas....he’s always working and has secret songs stashed. Combine that with the fact that Nas and Lupe were photographed in the studio together a few months ago..im like 85% sure they recorded something together.
Great breakdown by Lupe. I think KRS is the closest person across the board. Lyrics, rocks the crowd, freestyle, battler, message in his music, impact and influence, and drops knowledge in interviews.
Why compartmentalize at all? Why not just enjoy what you do, and dislike what you don't? It's so much music out there, not all of it is gonna speak to you. I agree with Lupe, best list is no list. . .
Most of his stuff is. Sadly he will always be low-key and it will only get lower as time goes on. An immaculate body of work that few still listen to. Lupe is Legendary!
King I think he was talking about lists in general for people that have such a problem with certain lists as if they don't understand that's it simply another persons opinion. Nothing to do with lupe necessarily but most people that are especially in the RUclips comments. Just my take on it tho
@@ghostclick6923 yeah but some people have shitty lists, everyone can have different lists,if you can back it up, if you cant back it up well then your best list is wrong
22:08 Bro just shouted out Aesop Rock. I've been listening to him for years and waiting for someone in the limelight of Hip Hop to acknowledge him. Respect to Lupe for that!
One Of My Personal Favorite EMCEES Ever, Along With Rakim,Nas,Scarface,Ice Cube and etc. ...!!! He’s A GOAT 🐐 EMCEE, Put His Catalog up against any EMCEE line for line bar for bar concept to concept originality to originality....!!!
Demetrius we actually have the same favs or top 10. Mines are Rakim KRS One Kool G Rap Daddy Kane Slick Rick Cube Scarface LL Cool J A Tribe called quest De La Soul
+Fitwari Fitnesd Exactly Don't forget Red and Meth, Dougie Fresh I saw him rock a teen Club owned by Uncle Luke called Pac-Jam he was by himself doing b his dance and head the crowd jumping by just beat damn boxing True Story
@@msfergie5851 You are tripping if you saying Eminem doesn't have his own style. He can use pretty much any flow, from the 80s to the current ones that are poppin, but he made sure he has classic self-defying albums and tracks. And that's on some real shit, if you can't admit that, you just hating for the sake of it. You don't have to enjoy his catalog to the fullest, but Em has too many classics to be talked about like this. It's like saing Jay isn't one of the GOATs as a Nas fan, or vice-versa, it's the bias and emotion talking.
@@MOBSquadGaming ... I think you have missed everything that was just said, Balance is key. Not to mention that song is garbage... LOL this dude said Lupe was bodied by that trash ass song.( In my Kevin Heart Voice) Somebody come over here and look at this. Lol
@Wu Beach Boy nas is my favorite mc of all time, but him now going against lupe, he would get crushed even by k.dot and a few others...it doesnt make him unworthy of being a goat he's just past his prime a lil and that goes for others on your list as well
I am late to the game, but per Lupe’s criteria I am putting Black thought from the legendary Roots crew at the top of most list based on all criteria. He had sold albums, has grammy’s, conscious, lyrical, can rock a show, great features, legendary versus. What can’t the man do? He sings, raps, improv (The Jimmy Fallon), style and contribution to hip hop. Every criteria Lupe just spoke of I would give The talented Mr. Trotter top billing.
@@AaronJ412 Rakim is called the God MC because prior to his debut album, emcees were rapoing with very elementary writing techniques. He introduced multisyllbic rhyme patterns, compound rhyme structures, internal rhyme schemes, and the style of breaking a line between two bars, among other techniques. Rakim changed the landscape forever with his album, Paid in Full...which he wrote 85% of in 11th grade, at 16/17yrs old. He has influenced every emcee of the last 35 yrs, and every emcee for the forseeable future.
The main reason why I can't stand these discussions its more to create and argument just like the whole G.O.A.T conversation lol it's funny that who ever is claimed to be the G.O.A.T of anything ends up sacrificed on the alter of everyone who doesn't agree lol
True Beast know There is No Best, There are only Masters of The Craft. How much time and Work you put in will be reflected in your overall presentation of your verse. When Beast Form a Cipher, props are given for being able to hold your square to the level of all the other Beast in the circle........ If you are not a student of the game, then you will never know .
@@Gdatshim lol, oh you one of those they devil worshipers because of the words used? Beast are what people who spit fire have been called for decades, and the craft is the art form for those who take it to levels beyond the laymen.... and Freemasons ;) I'm Suspect, you suspect... are you even awake?
@@Gdatshim lol, look at ya, you're the one sowing seeds of decent and conflict and I'm that Demonic beast you have in your mind huh? lol so blind and confused, New School Fools...
@@macmanjr100 im just fucking with you, bruh! I mean he did say that but either way. Gimme some dope Lupe songs. I've tried a couple times to get into him, but just havent been able to. Im big on Aes, DOOM, Sage Francis, and Elzhi, so im good with complex shit. Id appreciate some recommendations, homey
His break down probably hurt a lot of folks brain who don't have the patience or aren't humble enough to learn something and be open minded. It's obvious he is open-minded but others won't be. He spitting facts. So many criterias and/or motives to making a list. So many thought processes or thoughtless processees
Naw. Nas had the streets. And Nas was Atleast the top rapper for a few years. Lyrically Lupe is tight. But I've never heard anybody say put on that New Lupe.
I knew white people in high school who bumped food & liquor. He was pretty poppin in the suburbs of Chicago (obviously) and when I moved to Phoenix, he was probably more poppin over there. Clearly I'm not talking about having the streets on lock like Nas, but Lupe had his Audience.
Pac was the closest. He danced, sold records, had amazing interviews, had great message in his music, Incredible influence on rap, and overall just a great human being is what set him apart from others
@@boarderking133 The list is based on who the better "MC" is. Hiphop is based on who could MC=Move the crowd. Dancing is one of the 5 elements of hiphop. And pac embodied all 5 elements.
Think Nas is the closest to the overall GOAT. Hes got the classic albums, classic songs, and the numbers to back it up. Hes the closest to having all the traits that make a great MC. Jay Z has better punches, Em probably has better rhyme patterns, Pac might be more poetic. But nobody touches all those traits as a whole better than Nas. I also think hes the best story teller in hiphop. Classic freestyle and moments to add. Longevity as well.
Lupe is a phenomenal raper and he still studies the art and works on his craft to this day. So many of these other rappers don’t practice/study/ or even desire to develop. That’s like aspiring to be a great basketball player but only showing up to games. You’ll never improve. Rappers who even qualify to be the best, continue to seek growth in their craft. Those are the rappers that will be on my list 😉
Lyrically..like LYRICALLY.... Lupe is #1 I don't care who you are. This dude's freestyle is better than your favorite rappers written verses. And that's just facts
The thing I hate about lists is it’s personal preference no facts no objective and can be swayed by politics, bias point of views or just hate or misinformation ext
rudy garza not when you have a group of people from various backgrounds that can look at things objectively and approach the creation of the list from a scientifically unbiased standpoint. the way lupe breaks it down here kind of showcases that...
If you check out Homeboy Sandman, check out his Rucker Park 2008 verses, "72 Bars For Chosenberg" and his Tony Touch Freestyle. These are good intros to who he is and what he's about. He really loves hip hop
He’s right! U just can’t throw a list together & think that the artist on that list make it meet everyone’s criteria, needs or standards. Your list is just that, your list of favorite mcs or rappers to cater to your needs at any given moment.
Absolutley correct.. it's almost impossible to not make a list based off fandom. I even had even had to get out my feelings on some rappers, and ones I didn't like I became a fan after my friends were like bruh just listen to this person.
If we’re talking the best today lyrically, Oswin Benjamin,locksmith,elzhi,phonte. The Og’s rakim,Big L,Nas,,Lupe,pharomonche,Big daddy Kane,Ra the rugged man.
In the 90's, the heavy hitter TRUE rap labels DIDN'T generally sign wack MC's. U had to be AT LEAST good on the mic. I'm talking Def Jam, Loud, Bad Boy, Death Row, The Roc, etc. From there, u had legends like Biggie, Pac, Hov, DMX, Busta, Snoop, etc. who had the IT FACTOR to get the mainstream big time as well. They earned their credibility with their mic skills in the streets intitally though. And they still satisfied their core fanbase at the same time. Those guys would be all over MTV AND get love on pop radio. So these types of MCs were the TRUE TOTAL PACKAGE! From there, u had legends like Nas, Wu, Mobb, Redman, LOX, etc. who weren't all over pop radio and MTV. BUT they still had huge followings nonetheless though. So what that means is powerful labels like Death Row, Bad Boy, Def Jam, and the Roc had THE POWER to dictate LONG TERM mainstream policy. Which means SURE wack shit or pop rap would come and go. BUT the elite MC's who were the TOTAL PACKAGE had the staying power. Pac, BIG, Snoop, Hov, and DMX were among the biggest artists in ALL OF MUSIC! Not just hip hop! So when u have powerful forces like that, it EVENS the playing field! But with the advent of social media, MUCH MORE WACK SHIT seeps through the cracks. And those guys build such huge fanbases OF THE WACK SHIT that the record labels and radio station pay attention. So they can get their content to millions of people in manner that couldn't be done in the 90's. And those wack artists STILL won't have much staying power either. BUT they would have made HUGE MONEY faster in a lot of cases BEFORE their BULLSHIT RUN is over! So what KRS is talking about is LARGELY because of the elements I pointed out! The music isn't curated like it was in the 90's! There's MUCH MORE WACK SHIT than quality shit that hits the mainstream these days. Back in the 90's, there was MUCH MORE BALANCE!! So social media hurt hip hop in terms of the artists not being able to monetize their work the same. And secondly, MUCH MORE wack shit seeped through the cracks that WOULDN'T have back in the day. Even an artist like Hammer was a GREAT ENTERTAINER at least! No where near a great MC, BUT he had his lane! Some of these artists today FRANLY aren't elite MC's or elite entertainers. They just talk shit over a great beat. And the beat SELLS IT because it's about shaking ass and getting fucked up!
I do believe that the lists need to spell out the criteria to justify rapper’s placement on the list. There only needs to be 3 lists. 1. Greatest Rapper (overall) 2. Best Hip-Hop Artist (songwriting) 3. Best Lyricist (str8 up bars)
Very well put! I would say that the one thing he left out about lists is that some people just do it for fun. No deep agenda or focused reason. Sometimes it's also just a simple need to put one's own thoughts in order and take a snapshot in time that shows how you felt at that time or were passionate about. At the oof the day it's like Lupe was really saying is that we all have an opinion that is based on our own personal biases.
@mike dollars He dont make hits? Lmao what Lupe has more hits than most people on the list. Kick Push, Superstar, Paris, Tokyo, The Show Goes On, Daydreamin, Hiphop Saved My Life, Battle Scars.. All huge records. And yes Lupe will outrap just about everyone on that list.
Lupe the top of my list for sure. Never heard an emcee do what he does. But every list is subjective because music is subjective. Do you prioritize lyrics? hooks? performance? flow? storytelling? concept? punchlines? rhyme schemes? vocabulary? authenticity? longevity? Depending on that, my list would change. if I went longevity, I go for Jay-Z. Hooks, it might be 50. flow, it might be Twista or Busta. Punches, it might be Fab or Banks. It could change.
Each list is mainly about the Lister himself more than anything definitive about the artform . Any compiled list is, at best, self-expression . Therefore, I don't take any credence in any of them, not even my own lol .
I agree but he said he doesn't think it has value unless they consider certain criteria instead of just a vague list with no justification behind placement because there is so much to base it off of.
@@brosie15 😂 i definitely didn't care about certain categories but i do understand. Like best lyrical artist of this era best story teller of another than analyzing how they may compare across generations rather than considering every eras emcees in a broad general sense.
Marvin Bennett until people take it seriously and it negatively impact the discussion. The discussion is always great. People learn about artists they never might have heard of. It’s just taking it public like some of these media figures do is the silly part. That’s when credibility comes into play and can do more damage than benefit.
1. MFDOOM (most technical skill) 2. Jay-z ( most consistent, three classic albums, best song ever written (can I live) 3. Nas (best hip-hop album ever made- illmatic) 4. Lupe Fiasco (smartest rapper ever, invincible metaphors and entendres) Everybody else.
Shit the most of what he said applies to Eminem. Skill .longevity . Battle. Sales. Flow. Freestyle. Content but no list is the best list everyone have his favorites
Omar Scruggs actually no, when you monetize a RUclips video they ask you how many skippable or non-skippable adds you would like on your video. The more ads the more ads you choose, the more revenue you get.
I enjoyed this. Especially the MF Doom and Aseop Rock references. I definitely study them and Mr. Fiasco for my personal shower concerts. My one gripe though, could we please get more adds and less content, please? Ty
I feel like people feel like they have PHDs in Punchlines and Rap. Why can't we all just accept that the best rapper is just the most relatable and heart felt? That was Tupac, point blank. And if you disagree, well, have a good day. Enjoy dinner
Fact of the matter is there are others who can pull at your heart strings and turn around and spit bars on a caliber way higher than Pac. No doubt an invaluable addition to hip hop but I never saw him as one of the best lyricists.
My personal five is X,50,Jay,3000,Pac no order. I think the most interesting category to discuss is what's lyrical/lyricism. Facts what he said about Busta...I feel the same about Snoop
@@rahgawd4533 You ever listen to Blackalicious? Blackalicious - 40oz for Breakfast (1994) ruclips.net/video/dm1MW0oF9tU/видео.html Blackalicious - Shallow Days (1999) ruclips.net/video/wfDRI4FYygk/видео.html Blackalicious - 4000 Miles (2002) ruclips.net/video/YMalrecXikw/видео.html Gift of Gab (of Blackalicious) - Freedom Form Flowing (2018) ruclips.net/video/L3dtIyt6U1E/видео.html
you cannot comment on who is the best rapper if you yourself are not a rapper or artist. If you are just a fan, just shut your mouth and enjoy the art.
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Lupes song mural is by far my favorite lyrical massacre ever
Aura Gang one of the most amazing lyrical pieces ever
Dude, it's 2019 and I'm still trying to understand the song. So far I've managed to understand the chicken scheme at the start of the song
M Wadud 😂😂😂😂😂😂
M Wadud
To true bro, each listen you hear something different on that joint. Shit could be applied to creative writing classes
Easily one of the best songs of all time!
Niggas still deciphering Food and Liquor and The Cool, IDGAF Lupe is a GOD EMCEE.
FACTS! Everyone was tripping when he said he's a better lyricist than Kendrick. Kendrick is an AMAZING lyricist but Lupe is top 3 GREATEST lyricists EVER
Man them albums found me when I went through a rough time, forever have a place in my heart.
Lupe an alien
And that's before they even get to Food & Liquor II and Tetsuo & Youth.
Facts.
It's crazy the amount of charisma Lupe has to pair with his abundant amount of obvious knowledge and noticable intelligence... Much respect
We need a Lupe and Nas track or compilation expeditiously lol get it done
Expeditiously 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 from Freddie Gibbs?
@@benrochford5427 when T.I said it to Kodak Black, when he was talking crazy about Nipsey's wife
After Lost Tapes II, its very clear that even if we don’t hear from Nas....he’s always working and has secret songs stashed. Combine that with the fact that Nas and Lupe were photographed in the studio together a few months ago..im like 85% sure they recorded something together.
Hell even if it's just old verses put together!!
@@benrochford5427 Freddie spittin on his new shit like he wanna be on this list
DMX wasn't on Ebro's list. Not valid.
No melle mele
Considering what he does for a living that’s a criminal mistake.
Case closed! 😘🇬🇧
Stephen Cox neither was Scarface
You wouldn't have said that shit if you ain't heard Fedora the Explora, top 3, not 1 or 2's podcast.
Great breakdown by Lupe. I think KRS is the closest person across the board. Lyrics, rocks the crowd, freestyle, battler, message in his music, impact and influence, and drops knowledge in interviews.
Too many people are disrespecting Cube.
robert Campbell Blatantly
He's in my top 3
1. Eminem
2. Kendrick Lamar
3. Ice Cube
@dantrel81 i think kendrick would decimate pac. Id say put jay or Big
biggie small is better than Kendrick, Tupac, or enimem. Or jaz.or anyone. Imo biggie is the best to ever do it
@@robode1945 w
You got to compartmentalize rap lists, "best storytelling", "best crowd control", "best concepts", "widest vocabulary", "best flow", "best wordplay", "best albums" etc
But after having those you can have an idea of the best overall, like what hip hop universe does
Pelayo Saavedra Right, but the list would be dominated by underground rappers.
@@myjciskate4 that doesn't change that they would be the best tho. Just would prove the mainstream don't support the real greats.
Triston Crowl Yep
Why compartmentalize at all? Why not just enjoy what you do, and dislike what you don't? It's so much music out there, not all of it is gonna speak to you. I agree with Lupe, best list is no list. . .
Only a real emcee would give this kind of in depth answer. lmaooooo
Superfacts!
#1 I ain’t talking money I’m talking rapping lupe is the 🐐
I appreciate y'all
ChunkOFunk13 it’s crazy too because king Los is lupe fiascos favorite rapper of today😂🤙
ChunkOFunk13 king los is nice but Lupe an entire different beast
Extremely articulate well thought out video. I agree 100% with everything Lupe said.
I don’t believe in top 5 in rap, I believe in top tier rappers. And Lupe, you sir are a top tier rapper
Did anyone hear the Pharaoh (2015) mixtape by Lupe? Low key classic tbh
His mixtapes are all God level
Pharaoh height is a classic
That was a God like mixtape
Facts I still have that mixtape in my playlist
Most of his stuff is. Sadly he will always be low-key and it will only get lower as time goes on. An immaculate body of work that few still listen to. Lupe is Legendary!
You can’t have a definitive list on something that is subjective from person to person.
@@stevencouplin9068
Well technically he didn't break down what's wrong with it. He just got more in depth with any list in general.
Thank you. Been tryna tell people this for years
King I think he was talking about lists in general for people that have such a problem with certain lists as if they don't understand that's it simply another persons opinion. Nothing to do with lupe necessarily but most people that are especially in the RUclips comments. Just my take on it tho
@@ghostclick6923 yeah but some people have shitty lists, everyone can have different lists,if you can back it up, if you cant back it up well then your best list is wrong
@@ghostclick6923 but W i get what you mean ppl shouldnt get mad over someone elses list
25:19 Showing how much he loves Nas
Nas showed Lupe love when he was on Drink Champs, in fact he said Lupe is the only rapper he looks at like "wow" that's huge for hip hop
@@DrewTubeSkyWalker Yo if Nas says that ain't no list that matters.
22:08 Bro just shouted out Aesop Rock. I've been listening to him for years and waiting for someone in the limelight of Hip Hop to acknowledge him. Respect to Lupe for that!
Lice was some good shit
the way he allegorically analogized the list with roman & greek gods ..true artist
One Of My Personal Favorite EMCEES Ever, Along With Rakim,Nas,Scarface,Ice Cube and etc. ...!!! He’s A GOAT 🐐 EMCEE, Put His Catalog up against any EMCEE line for line bar for bar concept to concept originality to originality....!!!
That nigga boring
Demetrius we actually have the same favs or top 10. Mines are
Rakim
KRS One
Kool G Rap
Daddy Kane
Slick Rick
Cube
Scarface
LL Cool J
A Tribe called quest
De La Soul
I'm glad he mentioned Busta Rhymes, because he's top 3 in "crowd control", alongside KRS 1 and DMX.
Rakim
Tech n9ne
+Fitwari Fitnesd Exactly Don't forget Red and Meth, Dougie Fresh I saw him rock a teen Club owned by Uncle Luke called Pac-Jam he was by himself doing b his dance and head the crowd jumping by just beat damn boxing True Story
If Scarface isn’t in your top 5, I think you need to go listen to all his albums(solo and group) and then reconsider.
Kwamu Hill Scarface is everything. He’s a lyricist and a storyteller. He’s done it all. He’s still doing it all.
I wouldn’t have Busta and DMX quite that high, but the other 8? Yeah. Strong list. I’d put Redman up there. KRS-One too.
@Marlon Varnell KRS top 5 easily
*Lupe is Top 10 on my ALL TIME LYRICIST LIST. He's probably Top 15-20 ALL TIME GREAT on my list.*
That's insane, top 20? That means you think theres 19 other rappers better than Lupe?
No friggin way breh
Lupe's right, no one can be all of that.
..but damn Eminem comes close to all the categories Lupe mentioned
Eminems problem is consistency
@@randomuruk7230 Only consistency issue has been beats and hook selections, but even that is way overblown.
Originality has to be a factor also.
@@msfergie5851 You are tripping if you saying Eminem doesn't have his own style. He can use pretty much any flow, from the 80s to the current ones that are poppin, but he made sure he has classic self-defying albums and tracks.
And that's on some real shit, if you can't admit that, you just hating for the sake of it. You don't have to enjoy his catalog to the fullest, but Em has too many classics to be talked about like this. It's like saing Jay isn't one of the GOATs as a Nas fan, or vice-versa, it's the bias and emotion talking.
Although you not gonna see this, Thank you Lupe for all your work. From Revenge of the Nerds till now
Nas, Ghostface, 3000, Scarface, MF DOOM
great list
Nas/Krs, Chuck D, Rakim, Common, Black Thought
Dope list
Ghostface overrated bruh
@@JoseAguilar-hl3ny says only you
23:22 that's what they doing to eminem currently
Facts
Lupe's Skills and body of work puts him at least Top 10... I have him Top 5
Just DeWitt that’s hilarious TK bodied this guy in Kick, Push, Pass.
@@MOBSquadGaming ... I think you have missed everything that was just said, Balance is key. Not to mention that song is garbage... LOL this dude said Lupe was bodied by that trash ass song.( In my Kevin Heart Voice) Somebody come over here and look at this. Lol
@@MOBSquadGaming Boi you take a L for having a Fortnite pic up. 😂 Foh.
@@MOBSquadGaming 100
@@MOBSquadGaming That shit was garbage, homey 😅😅😅
Pac nas big Em Scarface 3000
Where is rakim and scarface bro list can be tricky
@@1800fedup Scarface is in his list lol
@@1800fedup are you blind Scarface is on the list that's his list
Redman pun
You so deep ey I'm just blown away. That was a great lecture👌🏾. Keep it up Lupe much love from 🇿🇦
Lupe is def top 5...top 10 at a minimum
@Kwamu Hill ok give me facts, I'll wait
Jerel Jones facts
@Wu Beach Boy nas is my favorite mc of all time, but him now going against lupe, he would get crushed even by k.dot and a few others...it doesnt make him unworthy of being a goat he's just past his prime a lil and that goes for others on your list as well
@Wu Beach Boy so I'm going say them in there prime yes, but now, most wouldn't stand a chance against Lupe's pin game
@Wu Beach Boy mos def stepped down from Lupe's acceptance of a battle and battle rappers want lupe to start battle rapping....that speaks volumes
I am late to the game, but per Lupe’s criteria I am putting Black thought from the legendary Roots crew at the top of most list based on all criteria. He had sold albums, has grammy’s, conscious, lyrical, can rock a show, great features, legendary versus. What can’t the man do? He sings, raps, improv (The Jimmy Fallon), style and contribution to hip hop.
Every criteria Lupe just spoke of I would give The talented Mr. Trotter top billing.
He's in my top 3, only behind The God MC and Gods Son
Probably the best for me! ✌
9.5 Iron Mic who’s the god mc?
@@AaronJ412 Rakim is called the God MC because prior to his debut album, emcees were rapoing with very elementary writing techniques. He introduced multisyllbic rhyme patterns, compound rhyme structures, internal rhyme schemes, and the style of breaking a line between two bars, among other techniques. Rakim changed the landscape forever with his album, Paid in Full...which he wrote 85% of in 11th grade, at 16/17yrs old. He has influenced every emcee of the last 35 yrs, and every emcee for the forseeable future.
Facts
This is just a acapella 28 minute freestyle
Aesop rock , MF doom have bars for days
If u don't know about homeboy Sandman, u need to look him up. Lupe listed him for a reason bro
@@sheldonthegiant ya i know who he is yo
DOOM all capital no trick spelling , and just remember ALL CAPS when you spell the mans name! LOLLL ayee
Same opinion, best list is no list because nobody would agree each other lists and this is the reason they re making list, to make people debate
The main reason why I can't stand these discussions its more to create and argument just like the whole G.O.A.T conversation lol it's funny that who ever is claimed to be the G.O.A.T of anything ends up sacrificed on the alter of everyone who doesn't agree lol
LF is top 5 all time period
Noooooo
Yes
No to many greats before him, sorry Lupe maybe if you was born earlier
He’s my number 1
Nah lol but he's a beast tho
True Beast know There is No Best, There are only Masters of The Craft. How much time and Work you put in will be reflected in your overall presentation of your verse. When Beast Form a Cipher, props are given for being able to hold your square to the level of all the other Beast in the circle........ If you are not a student of the game, then you will never know .
Whats with the beast and craft used here and why using caps..You suspect !
@@Gdatshim lol, oh you one of those they devil worshipers because of the words used? Beast are what people who spit fire have been called for decades, and the craft is the art form for those who take it to levels beyond the laymen.... and Freemasons ;) I'm Suspect, you suspect... are you even awake?
@@TheWatcherof13 keep telling yourself that. Go practice your craft, you beast.
@@Gdatshim lol, look at ya, you're the one sowing seeds of decent and conflict and I'm that Demonic beast you have in your mind huh? lol so blind and confused, New School Fools...
Lupe is probably the most skillful mc of all time.
@Wu Beach BoyEm & busta have pretty predictable flows to me
Lupe says he wishes he was half the emcee that Aesop Rock is, sooo....
@@lyricsanonymous9036 it's also my opinion sooo....
@@macmanjr100 and now you know Lupes, so....
@@macmanjr100 im just fucking with you, bruh! I mean he did say that but either way. Gimme some dope Lupe songs. I've tried a couple times to get into him, but just havent been able to. Im big on Aes, DOOM, Sage Francis, and Elzhi, so im good with complex shit. Id appreciate some recommendations, homey
my new goal is to meet lupe Fiasco and have him say to me "your Nice" then I'm done...
That shit would be trill...😁
I respect this! Thank you lupe!
His break down probably hurt a lot of folks brain who don't have the patience or aren't humble enough to learn something and be open minded. It's obvious he is open-minded but others won't be. He spitting facts. So many criterias and/or motives to making a list. So many thought processes or thoughtless processees
Lupe the Nas of Chicago
Naw. Nas had the streets. And Nas was Atleast the top rapper for a few years. Lyrically Lupe is tight. But I've never heard anybody say put on that New Lupe.
I knew white people in high school who bumped food & liquor. He was pretty poppin in the suburbs of Chicago (obviously) and when I moved to Phoenix, he was probably more poppin over there. Clearly I'm not talking about having the streets on lock like Nas, but Lupe had his Audience.
@@imjustsayin3210 yea he definitely had a audience. But I wouldn't say he had enough control to be in the GOAT talk.
@@brotherLee340 I see your point. Sucks, because I feel he deserved so much more in this game than he ever got.
Hey, that's life I guess.
Lupe shows us once again his eloquence and insight
Pac was the closest. He danced, sold records, had amazing interviews, had great message in his music, Incredible influence on rap, and overall just a great human being is what set him apart from others
Josh V Kanye west
What does dancing have to do with being the best rapper? Or selling records for that matter.
@@boarderking133 The list is based on who the better "MC" is. Hiphop is based on who could MC=Move the crowd. Dancing is one of the 5 elements of hiphop. And pac embodied all 5 elements.
@@KingCease Kanye got writers so it takes him out of the race technically. But he's in my top 10 personally
“Great message”. Lol. In maybe like 20% of his songs.
That calorie mate shit reminded me of Metal Gear Solid
Lupe should definitely have been in that top 10
Think Nas is the closest to the overall GOAT. Hes got the classic albums, classic songs, and the numbers to back it up. Hes the closest to having all the traits that make a great MC. Jay Z has better punches, Em probably has better rhyme patterns, Pac might be more poetic. But nobody touches all those traits as a whole better than Nas. I also think hes the best story teller in hiphop. Classic freestyle and moments to add. Longevity as well.
Lupe is a phenomenal raper and he still studies the art and works on his craft to this day. So many of these other rappers don’t practice/study/ or even desire to develop. That’s like aspiring to be a great basketball player but only showing up to games. You’ll never improve. Rappers who even qualify to be the best, continue to seek growth in their craft. Those are the rappers that will be on my list 😉
Lyrically..like LYRICALLY.... Lupe is #1 I don't care who you are. This dude's freestyle is better than your favorite rappers written verses. And that's just facts
+1
Your facts
But I do know he is great lyrically
Andre 3000
He is up there
Lupe is the GOAT
The thing I hate about lists is it’s personal preference no facts no objective and can be swayed by politics, bias point of views or just hate or misinformation ext
rudy garza not when you have a group of people from various backgrounds that can look at things objectively and approach the creation of the list from a scientifically unbiased standpoint. the way lupe breaks it down here kind of showcases that...
music isnt even objective
It's a trolling list. Don't care too much for these things. Live goes on.
Lupe you will go down as one of the best mcs
Lupe, MF DOOM, Myka Nyne, Kendrick Lamar, Rza, Gza, inspectah Deck, and the legend Ice Cube
Good list
rebel I.N.S. and GZA!!!
Loving the Myka Nyne love, Aceyalone should be there as well though
The black comedians in the sixties created the art form of rapping
Rudy raymore aka dolamite
Lupe mentioning Boy Sand as an influence just made my day.
If you check out Homeboy Sandman, check out his Rucker Park 2008 verses, "72 Bars For Chosenberg" and his Tony Touch Freestyle. These are good intros to who he is and what he's about. He really loves hip hop
Jumbo Owens Aesop rock is the name
Lupe put this shit in Perspective, This is why I gotta holla at that Society of Spoken Art, do you have to be assigned artist to be an apprentice
Lupe and Homeboy Sandman collaboration would be fire!
Let's skip the bullshit and just get a trio between Aes, Homeboy and Lupe. That would shut the underground down.
He’s right! U just can’t throw a list together & think that the artist on that list make it meet everyone’s criteria, needs or standards. Your list is just that, your list of favorite mcs or rappers to cater to your needs at any given moment.
Absolutley correct.. it's almost impossible to not make a list based off fandom. I even had even had to get out my feelings on some rappers, and ones I didn't like I became a fan after my friends were like bruh just listen to this person.
If we’re talking the best today lyrically, Oswin Benjamin,locksmith,elzhi,phonte. The Og’s rakim,Big L,Nas,,Lupe,pharomonche,Big daddy Kane,Ra the rugged man.
Constance Alicia no Conway, Butch, Gunn?
@@jamesegner3389 Not Gunn but Conway and Benny are elite new school.
He's saying EVERYTHING I'm thinking right now
In the 90's, the heavy hitter TRUE rap labels DIDN'T generally sign wack MC's. U had to be AT LEAST good on the mic. I'm talking Def Jam, Loud, Bad Boy, Death Row, The Roc, etc. From there, u had legends like Biggie, Pac, Hov, DMX, Busta, Snoop, etc. who had the IT FACTOR to get the mainstream big time as well. They earned their credibility with their mic skills in the streets intitally though. And they still satisfied their core fanbase at the same time. Those guys would be all over MTV AND get love on pop radio. So these types of MCs were the TRUE TOTAL PACKAGE!
From there, u had legends like Nas, Wu, Mobb, Redman, LOX, etc. who weren't all over pop radio and MTV. BUT they still had huge followings nonetheless though. So what that means is powerful labels like Death Row, Bad Boy, Def Jam, and the Roc had THE POWER to dictate LONG TERM mainstream policy. Which means SURE wack shit or pop rap would come and go. BUT the elite MC's who were the TOTAL PACKAGE had the staying power. Pac, BIG, Snoop, Hov, and DMX were among the biggest artists in ALL OF MUSIC! Not just hip hop! So when u have powerful forces like that, it EVENS the playing field!
But with the advent of social media, MUCH MORE WACK SHIT seeps through the cracks. And those guys build such huge fanbases OF THE WACK SHIT that the record labels and radio station pay attention. So they can get their content to millions of people in manner that couldn't be done in the 90's. And those wack artists STILL won't have much staying power either. BUT they would have made HUGE MONEY faster in a lot of cases BEFORE their BULLSHIT RUN is over! So what KRS is talking about is LARGELY because of the elements I pointed out! The music isn't curated like it was in the 90's! There's MUCH MORE WACK SHIT than quality shit that hits the mainstream these days. Back in the 90's, there was MUCH MORE BALANCE!!
So social media hurt hip hop in terms of the artists not being able to monetize their work the same. And secondly, MUCH MORE wack shit seeped through the cracks that WOULDN'T have back in the day. Even an artist like Hammer was a GREAT ENTERTAINER at least! No where near a great MC, BUT he had his lane! Some of these artists today FRANLY aren't elite MC's or elite entertainers. They just talk shit over a great beat. And the beat SELLS IT because it's about shaking ass and getting fucked up!
Nice essay amigo.
I do believe that the lists need to spell out the criteria to justify rapper’s placement on the list. There only needs to be 3 lists. 1. Greatest Rapper (overall) 2. Best Hip-Hop Artist (songwriting) 3. Best Lyricist (str8 up bars)
Thanks
Nas and Lupe is the 2 best to ever do it
And Nick Tronson is 3rd.
Rakim
Nas
Black Thought
Aesop Rock
MF DOOM
@@nicktronson2977 nah, you'd be quite a bit behind me, homey
@@lyricsanonymous9036 Are you Sir Mixalot?
@@nicktronson2977 Well, my wife is Mexican...so i do like big butts, i can not lie 😅😅😅
This video should be mandatory for all rappers, prospective and experienced; both young and old.
I always want to hear what Lupe has to say he makes sense most of the time.
Very well put! I would say that the one thing he left out about lists is that some people just do it for fun. No deep agenda or focused reason. Sometimes it's also just a simple need to put one's own thoughts in order and take a snapshot in time that shows how you felt at that time or were passionate about. At the oof the day it's like Lupe was really saying is that we all have an opinion that is based on our own personal biases.
Even people who do this have a criteria that navigates why they just want to rap for fun.
Lupe is better than 90% of his list and he has him at 44?? Excuse me while I find my thumbs down button...... Found it! 👎🏾👎🏾
Lupe will not be in top 50 of 90% of rap fans list. Lets just be real
mike dollars one dimensional... triple entendres, story telling SUPREME writing ability okay sure
@@MenaceIISocietys he is a Great Lyricist. Definitely top 5 in that category.
@mike dollars thats def not reductive😖 move on
@mike dollars He dont make hits? Lmao what Lupe has more hits than most people on the list. Kick Push, Superstar, Paris, Tokyo, The Show Goes On, Daydreamin, Hiphop Saved My Life, Battle Scars.. All huge records. And yes Lupe will outrap just about everyone on that list.
Lupe the top of my list for sure. Never heard an emcee do what he does. But every list is subjective because music is subjective. Do you prioritize lyrics? hooks? performance? flow? storytelling? concept? punchlines? rhyme schemes? vocabulary? authenticity? longevity?
Depending on that, my list would change. if I went longevity, I go for Jay-Z. Hooks, it might be 50. flow, it might be Twista or Busta. Punches, it might be Fab or Banks.
It could change.
Story telling Nas or Slick Rick
DrewTube1212 SkyWalker storytelling is Andrew 3000 and everybody else is 2nd tier to him.
And GZA is up for Barz... I move with the speed and strenght of ants....
Deck should be on there for sure. Never had a lacking verse ever
GZA was fire. So many Great Lyrical emcees..Cappadonna Bodied all them on Winter Warz
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My top five are Em, Nas, K-dot, Lupe, Biggie
Like em said “i am the goat and I don’t have to say a motherfucking thing cause mc’s know”
This was THE most accurate way I've heard on how to break down these lists.
Each list is mainly about the Lister himself more than anything definitive about the artform . Any compiled list is, at best, self-expression . Therefore, I don't take any credence in any of them, not even my own lol .
Facts
I dont agree that a non rapper cant be a judge of pure technical skill but i felt everything else
I agree but he said he doesn't think it has value unless they consider certain criteria instead of just a vague list with no justification behind placement because there is so much to base it off of.
@@mgilbert9004 he named too much criteria if ya ask me lol... i really dont care who's hot on social media 😂
@@brosie15 😂 i definitely didn't care about certain categories but i do understand. Like best lyrical artist of this era best story teller of another than analyzing how they may compare across generations rather than considering every eras emcees in a broad general sense.
Yea when I saw Ebro's list a few days ago it kinda pissed me off tbh
Pac
Nas
Jay
Ross
Dmx
Lupe
Em
Canibus
Cole
Wayne
My personal top 5...
1. Nas
2. 2Pac
3. Eminem
4. Lupe Fiasco
5. Jay Z
@Marlon Varnell Good list👍
Good to see somebody else with Lupe Fiasco in there top 5
Daniel Still Lupe better than all those dudes LYRICALLY
bleachlover 2000 none of the rappers listed have done or can do what Lupe does LYRICALLY!!
Y’all forgot about Andre 3000
Awesome break down of the importance of subjectivity!
People need to stop creating AND PUBLICLY SHOWING top rapper list. There will NEVER be a consensus on it.
Marvin Bennett until people take it seriously and it negatively impact the discussion. The discussion is always great. People learn about artists they never might have heard of. It’s just taking it public like some of these media figures do is the silly part. That’s when credibility comes into play and can do more damage than benefit.
I agree 💯 with what he said man Lupe is a legend and super underrated
I remember those bubble gum grape candies lol. Came in all different fruit flavor as well
REAL TALK and THE STRAIGHT UP FACTS RIGHT HERE!
I doubt that anyone can disagree with what Lupe is saying on this.
Hov is not over Nas, ( name some rappers he didn't influence" big, pac, jay, were sum, so what that say about Nasir Jones
xGRIM-_- REAPERX- I got this locked since nine one I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain’t influence.
Bro you smokin .. Back in 1996 nas was better. As of today Jay is better
Nas didn't influence pac u dummy but nas definitely over jay z
Nas should be anywhere in TOP 03 no matter what , people still want Ill' 02, even though Sill' 01 , is implied as 02 lol.
Hov is so over Nas now that it's not even a debate. Nas has too many flops. This was a legit debate in like 92', that shit over with now.
It was an honor to see and hear lupe break this issue down! What an honor
Starts at 3:00
You're the real MVP. Thanks
goat
You da real MVP
1. MFDOOM (most technical skill)
2. Jay-z ( most consistent, three classic albums, best song ever written (can I live)
3. Nas (best hip-hop album ever made- illmatic)
4. Lupe Fiasco (smartest rapper ever, invincible metaphors and entendres)
Everybody else.
Kanye West is the only man on Ebro’s list who’s first 5 albums are ALL classics and he’s number 50. LOL.
If you happened to dislike this, can you explain why?!
Awesome breakdown Lupe
MF DOOM 🎶👑
HOV 🎶💰👑
LUPE Fiasco🎶🎨🎓❤💛💚👑
My list coming soon
Prodigy 👀
Shit the most of what he said applies to Eminem. Skill .longevity . Battle. Sales. Flow. Freestyle. Content but no list is the best list everyone have his favorites
Br..o you!Gotta chill with all the ads
The person creating the content has no control over ads. RUclips does that
Omar Scruggs actually no, when you monetize a RUclips video they ask you how many skippable or non-skippable adds you would like on your video. The more ads the more ads you choose, the more revenue you get.
Omar Scruggs he has . Also it is just disrespectful to record lupe's video and post it on your channel with 50 ads to make some money
I enjoyed this. Especially the MF Doom and Aseop Rock references. I definitely study them and Mr. Fiasco for my personal shower concerts. My one gripe though, could we please get more adds and less content, please? Ty
I feel like people feel like they have PHDs in Punchlines and Rap. Why can't we all just accept that the best rapper is just the most relatable and heart felt? That was Tupac, point blank. And if you disagree, well, have a good day. Enjoy dinner
Fact of the matter is there are others who can pull at your heart strings and turn around and spit bars on a caliber way higher than Pac. No doubt an invaluable addition to hip hop but I never saw him as one of the best lyricists.
@@cloudedthought6944 And that's the bottom liiiiiiiiine, because sTooooooooone coooold, said sooo!
My personal five is X,50,Jay,3000,Pac no order. I think the most interesting category to discuss is what's lyrical/lyricism. Facts what he said about Busta...I feel the same about Snoop
The mr. monopoly man do wear glasses
Lupe In my personal top 5. He checks every box
Gang starr one of the best hip hop groups of men to ever grace rap
Guru is in my top 10
9.5 Iron Mic his bars are way underrated definitely fire in each song coming from a 93 baby
@@rahgawd4533 For real, Moment of Truth is a top 5 album to me
@@rahgawd4533 You ever listen to Blackalicious?
Blackalicious - 40oz for Breakfast (1994)
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Blackalicious - Shallow Days (1999)
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Blackalicious - 4000 Miles (2002)
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Gift of Gab (of Blackalicious) - Freedom Form Flowing (2018)
ruclips.net/video/L3dtIyt6U1E/видео.html
9.5 Iron Mic gonna have to check it out bro good looking out ✊🏿 take 2 and pass is another good guru track
Lupe you on my list. Also Big Pun and Busta Rhymes respectively
What about Big L
@@johnbacon4997 100. Big L is there too I was just naming three, but yes.
My Top Three:
Nas
Jay Z
Lupe
Thats a great list
jay is soo boring
you cannot comment on who is the best rapper if you yourself are not a rapper or artist. If you are just a fan, just shut your mouth and enjoy the art.
18 or 19 verses in the chamber. Good Lord