And they will be replaced by new jobs. Blacksmiths gave way to auto mechanics. Computers didn't really exist 50 years ago but now we have hardware and software technicians and engineers. Stun guns didn't exist 40 years ago but now there is a booming business making, fixing, selling and repairing them. The list goes on and on and there are all the things in the future that we don't know about that will make new jobs.
Mmmarvel the person While I agree that new jobs will be created, the number of new jobs will be reduced due to advancements in artificial intelligence.
Being someone who's lived on social benefits for 20 years...... yet has also been working for not just my own benefit, but societies benefit too, throughout this time period. I applaud this speech and see the mentality of a guaranteed universal income a high priority. I used to present a community radio show, yet at the end of this show i did not even have the finances to buy a cup of coffee. I went out of my way to present a professional show for my community - for no pay. Yet my community couldn't present me with the human dignity of being able to buy a drink for my hard work. Hence i was financially/socially excluded from my community...... which caused greater damage to my health.
Really Farmer, really?? You thought/believed that you were providing a professional show, but had the rest of the community/listening audience agreed you would have been sought after to upgrade from just a community show to something that someone wanted to advertise on. Your thoughts, your dreams would have propelled you to bigger and greater things on the radio. Since that didn't happen, then maybe the show didn't meet a need or maybe it wasn't as 'professional' as you believed it to be. Many of us work and then do something (like a community radio show, or handing food out to the poor, etc) on our off time; we feel that that is the way to give back to the community and mankind. Not sure why you've been on social benefits for 20 years but there are ways out of it. As I stated in another post (on this video) the problems with establishing a 'basic income' are HUGE to a point of impossible. The social benefits that we presently provide are there to help people when they need it, glad it was there to help you.
I had reached a level of professionalism that was more than adequate for a financial payment, yet sadly commercial radio or the brainwashing BBC, are not interested in paying presenters to promote a message that they themselves would deem to be anti-establishment or anti-capitalism. Neither are they interested in promoting music that is expanding peoples' consciousness or merely prompting them to think outside the box. If you don't promote an image which they deem necessary to keep the general populace in a zombie/slave state then you won't be invited to become a social programmer within one of their select/snobbish social circles. The problems with establishing a "basic income" are not impossible at all. In fact i'm already two thirds of the way there, with my current social benefits money. All i need is an extra amount to lift me out of a situation which is currently undignified to the human spirit, and having a further detrimental effect on my overall health. If we want the sick to become better, and the physically disabled to find a niche placement within our society, then i suggest we give them an amount of money which doesn't prohibit them from participating within that society. Or in other words an amount of money that doesn't banish them to be financially housebound.
Until the masses can understand the basic concept that people can have and can offer value beyond making profit for someone else, we're going to be stuck. At present, we're taking people doing valuable volunteer and community work, with skills, experience and knowledge, and we're forcing them into shitty, bottom rung, zero hour contracts....because we just can't bear the fact that they're not making money for someone at the top, instead 'merely' making lives better in their local area.
Yes. There is much work that needs to be done, but it's not being done because it's not profitable for the elites. Schools need tutors and helpers but can't afford them. Hospitals and nursing homes need caregivers, but won't hire them because they eat into profits. The roads in my county are in terrible shape but the right wing government doesn't want to raise taxes on the rich to pay for repairs. My city can't afford an animal control officer. Our bridges are literally falling apart. We've got work that needs to be done and workers who don't have jobs. Any system that is unable or unwilling to pay those workers to do that work is a failure by any definition.
I was on sickness benefit for a little while but rose out of actual sickness when I realised you can do some paid work without losing the extra cash. I used this as a springboard back into full time work. That's the way out of the trap in the UK. YMMV though as I'm a skilled professional with a master's degree and 15 years experience. If you only just graduated high school then you may be better off on welfare handouts than taking some awful badly paid degrading drudge work.
Great video. "We create work for ourselves" This is exactly what freedom is. Freedom is not about relaxing and doing nothing all day as some people may think if you get a basic income. Freedom is following a passion that gives meaning to your life. Not because you have to, but because you want to. I tackled an aspect of this subject in my new video: 3 hobbies everyone should have. I call work a hobby instead of a job.
This talk is one of the best things I've heard in a long time. I will re-watch it and listen even more closely to this man's words, and I suspect that it will bring me new things. I suggest we all seriously think about this, deeply, since it contains many layers. Thanks for sharing this!!!
It used to be that work was necessary for survival. In this situation, capable people who don’t work can truly be called parasites. In a society where jobs are dwindling, calling people who don’t work “parasites” is victim blaming. Once the fear of survival is eliminated, many can focus on their true calling and therefore will perform better at whatever they choose to pursue. Once money is no longer a factor in life, greed will diminish, planned obsolescence will no longer be a business model, products will be designed to last longer, pollution will naturally decrease.
This is a statement for future generations. This nonsense of working like slaves for the pursuit of money will be seen as a rudimentary behaviour from us early 21 century humans.
Watching this video in 2024 and it feels so ironic when our jobless youth have become a fodder for the alphabet soup, street protests and violence. Meanwhile, AI is already taking over jobs and much more. And yet, we do have new avenues of entrepreneurship but few takers while we get divided into binaries and wars. This is the reality of the dream they called the Universal Basic Income. Welcome to the future.
If cuts in work hours and/or salaries increases had kept pace with the increments productivity since the 1970's, people today should need to work a lot less hours / day to get by...and the ones who like to work more should making a lot more money as well!!!! employers took the productivity gains without telling anybody about it!!!
you are so right william! by the way, times are rough you know? wanna give me a few grand so i can make it through the month? my heroine addiction is taking all my income but im trying to quit!
+enchantrand-esque - No sir, you're the one not getting it, UBI is not sustainable, improbable, and (in so many ways) just plain stupid. You sir are the epitome of a Luddite. Good Luck, you ARE going to need it.
sonfo hendrix - then look FOR meaningful work. Oh and BTW, it IS meaningful to the company that hired you to do the job, or they wouldn't have hired you. Look, most of us have done 'meaningless' jobs in our lifetime. I was a grocery clerk (full time) one of the things it taught me was I didn't want to be a grocery clerk for my career (although some people did do that). I waited on tables, I ran a wave soldering machine, I trimmed Christmas trees and the list goes on. Don't get hung up on whatever job you are presently in, especially if you know it's NOT what you want to do with your life. Look for the next experience, do something to enhance your ability to take the next step - oh and don't quit what you are doing until you have that next job.
That's good advice. But actually if you think about it what most people want to do is either create something significant, or study, or play. That is the truth, the majority of people have jobs they don't like but that pays the bills.. Hopefully AI will mean we wont have to go to work just to do something we dont like in order to earn an income.. I personally would choose both creating things and studying/learning.. Things i can't do now unless the government had universal basic income.
sonof hendrix - So what is stopping you now from doing your creative stuff/studying and learning? If you (or I or anyone) WANTS to create something, then we FIND time to do it. Hey I like roasting my own coffee, I also roast for friends, but (obviously) I do it in my spare time/my free time. I study courses that are going to help me in my career, I've even been told that should I pass some tests there is a raise in it for me. Not sure about the 'majority of people have jobs they don't like'; yes some do, others (like myself) do NOT dread going to work every day, I like where I work and like what I do. Wasn't thrilled about running a wave soldering machine, but quickly figured out that wasn't a job that I wanted/liked and went about finding another one. UBI is just a crutch, too many people will complain that it doesn't give them enough money to ___ you fill in the blank.
I cannot afford to do courses, the only studying i can do is the free stuff which does not earn you a certificate or qualification. And where as i can find free time to do creative stuff, i meant in an ideal world, like being part of creating something very significant, like a huge project to create a mega-structure or something. Rich people and upper classes are the ones that can afford to study whatever they want because it does not matter if it does not lead to a job. UBI is not a crutch, its an enabler. But there will also be a lot of lazy, useless eaters and reprobates receiving UBI eventually, because the governments will have no choice at all in the matter. It will be UBI or violent riots and revolution. Because all the unskilled jobs, truck drivers, taxi drivers etc wont exist.
understanding of neglegence and failed responsibility to nurture future generations with love, compasion, and best intreast will continue the cycle of karma unless we free ourselves and be consciouss about false beliefes that burden future generations. with this level of concsiousness, we will have unity and resonate to the frequency of those that are in need of healing of the soul to change the reality for the well being of humanity.
I absolutely love the idea of UBI. Can you please provide a link to how it can be done? I really enjoy TED Talks. They are super inspirational. Thank you for your talk.
Once I started looking into robotic systems, AI, exponential growth and UBI universal basic income (freedom dividend) - it's amazing how many TED Talks there are and how many great minds have researched this and put their information out for everyone to see, hear and read. I now support Andrew Yang for president because he is the candidate that has a vision of what will happen and what is happening. He is forward-thinking on how to go with the future and not being overcome by it
I've spent several days scanning over these comments and I'm perplexed by many of them. So many people act as though there is a choice to be made here. The machines are coming for all of our jobs. if we don't redistribute the wealth they create in some way, billions of people will slowly starve to death. There is no other option.
Look at why are there so many jobs by david autor , it’s a ted talk and it is on youtube. The stuff u are saying have been said many times through history and yet the amount of adults that are employed has risen. Find out why.
You will not strive to Death , that is only the fear spread by these fuckwits,, We are very creative to make everything work. I am here for you. Are you?
I do not feel as though we are truly in the Golden Age yet, although we have certainly arrived at the cusp of an extremely important Moment In Time in which if we work collectively we really could create a true golden age.
The local jobcentre has been trying to force me into a dead end job for ages, this will reck my career, they cut me off when in an M&S interview I was asked what job I wanted and replied lecturer in physics
Great lecture. Sapiens are surplus to need. Either we change our society or it is ripped apart; not by bombs or global warming but by our perspective and value of humanity itself.
I hate it when people talk about 'technology' that are available, but not 'economically sustainable yet'. The technology we have is impressive, yes. But we are still far away from implementing it everywhere.
ummm do you understand the term exponential and what that means? ill give you the basics. you start with 1 and that goes to 2, then to 4, then to 8... etc etc. so basically, its starts off slowly, almost like there is no real change(thats where we are at currently) but eventually, the numbers get larger, FASTER, and by that point, if we are talking about jobs and the economy, it will be too late because robots and AI's(that develop at an exponential rate) will be everywhere. Resulting in a large section of the population unemployed. So, what do we do?
I would argue the biggest threat of automation is perfection. Humans are not designed to exist in perfection, we need a purpose to keep on living, or we'll kill ourselves (or waste ourselves away, being essentially dead but still alive). If the world is perfect and all human problems are solves, there's noting left for us to do but sit around and be perfect. We would go crazy. What purpose we could potentially have is taking over the solar system/universe, which would keep us occupied, but robots could probably do that for us.
Basic income is a really bad idea. Basic income for where?? Let's say (I'm picking a number out of the air) that you could get food, shelter and utilities in Omaha, Nebraska for $1000 a month, so we set that as the 'basic income' number. Well, how far will $1000 a month go in San Fransisco, or Seattle, or New York City?? Let's say out of that $1000 a month you were suppose to be spending $300 a month on food (single person) which is $75 per week. But they say, the foods I want and like cost more than that $75 per week, you need to give me more. Or I don't like to cook, so I eat out as often as I can and the rest are pre-packaged foods (which are expensive) so you need to give me more money. Is internet and cable TV included? If not, why not and what happens when the costs of those two things go up? How about my cell phone? I want the latest and greatest iPhone, and a plan with unlimited talk, text and data; oh and it HAS to be on Verizon, I won't do any other carrier. I don't like taking the bus so are you giving me a car? Cause I certainly don't have money for car payments, oh and I'll need extra money for the gas.insurance and maintenance. Your 'basic' plan allows me (single person) to live in a 300 square foot apartment - well, that's WAY too small for me AND I don't like the part of town that it's located in, so you have to change all that. Are you seeing the problems??? Or is it just a 'feels good' idea??
In most programs, everyone gets the same amount (to cover food and housing only); it's not based on income or talent. It would also help create a smaller government.
We're doing jobs based on A) an old system, and B) out of habit. Making ends meet should not be a thing in the 21st century and something like a Basic Income should have been introduced 20 years ago to preemptively cope with the changing technological world. The old bleat of "Just get a job and you'll be ok" if false. There's no security in most jobs and the pay is too low to realistically live on, and when I say live I mean LIVE, not have basics covered. That just covers existence.
We shouldn't be fighting for more jobs :D We should be fighting for freedom from jobs. We should utilize technologies to automate all the necessities of life :D Automated farms and automated house building capabilities, automated mining to get all the necessary elements we need to build what we need and want to build. Advanced 3D Printers capable of building everything we want and need. We should be living in abundance free from 9-5 illogical mind numbing routines that a computer can do. This world needs to change we need to change and in doing so make ourselves more free and better because of it. :D
So glad to have TEDx on RUclips. Those minds are really presenting the solution for the latent changes the world is requiring. Let's spread it to our connections and I am sure everyone will get it. Mankind will wake-up and thrive, by blending the eastern and western cultures together and being ONE.
And universal free basic education and universal free individual housing (at the beach of course) and universal free utilities and cable TV and internet and, and, and. No what it is is universal free nonsense.
+Froggy Noddy - Happy to take you up on that bet in an instant. Right now we have a shortage of skilled and semi-skilled workers, carpenters, electricians, plumbers even good old laborers. What I see is too many people who don't want to do the jobs available but want to get paid for not doing them.
Troy Gardner the universal income COULD be made high enough for someone to CHOOSE what food and how much to purchase and whether to have insurance and how much and what kind, using the choices available in a FREE MARKET. A universal minimum income should be prevented from becoming YET ANOTHER failed communist or FAR left socialist nation. Capitalism is STILL the best system for innovation, freedom of choice, etc. It simply is too easily abused due to the INEVITABLE and self reinforcing concentration of wealth. But we should keep as many of the good parts of capitalism as we can...NOT CRONY CORPORATISM *AND NOT LITERAL WORSHIP OF THE RICH AS INHERENTLY SUPERIOR HUMANS,* which IS what we have now.
nycholaus my post was partly tongue in cheek, snarky. humanity is intrinsically corrupt, neither left not right has the answer, any system can and is gamed and its not just us, even crows and cockroaches thrive in our blindsight.
Many time a job is the only achieve those goals. Days can be so expensive the sciences can I have been things on their own and rely on the resources of a large company. A job is not an unnecessary thing
There is something that is altogether missed in most speeches I hear about the structuring of societies. Until the core of this one problem is truly recognized and understood by the larger population - we are destined to experience the resulting pain. We need to understand what mental illness is behind fear based methods of control. Most systems use methods of revenge, vengeance, and condemnation. They ravenously seek to establish guilt to satisfy or quench a gruesome desire to destroy through punishments that are designed to torture rather than correct, restore or heal. These depraved ideas do not serve justice. If they were seen for what they actually do serve, there would be no such thing as prison, privately owned or otherwise. This illness is hidden in individual minds as well as collective. Minds have been conditioned in a way that obscures the real opportunities for intelligent, peaceful responses that form societal "norms." Until the roots of these insane ideas are exposed they will continue to make extremely imbalanced systems. These systems always promote pain through guilt, ignorance, fear and scarcity.
As a serial capitalist and economist, the idea of any government entitlements raises red flags. The threat of incentivizing people to NOT be contributing members of society is always there. I also believe in living in a society that doesn't leave a portion of its members in destitution and poverty unnecessarily. Exhibit A, the healthcare debates raging in American political circles. If we guarantee care to everyone, how will we ever be able to afford it? Government spending is already way out of control. If our system doesn't cover everyone, how many people is it acceptable to leave out? Who gets to decide? And can we justify the morality of that situation? Universal Basic Income I'm picturing as something akin to an expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit would be extremely valuable as we move toward an economy that may require vast swathes of the workforce to be retrained. Farming went from 90% to 2% but it took 200+ years. This tech-caused shift in work could be just as drastic and happen during our lifetimes. I sometimes consider whether the degree I recently earned will be worth much of anything at all in 50 years...
We can only do one thing we have to become creative otherwise AI is better than us....the only thing we can do is to become conscious ....there is no other solution....I am ready to surrender if anyone comes with anything other than consciousness
In the middle ages most people has several income streams in their lives, most were subsistence farmers but not all. Some were artisans who also has a skill learnt from a master which they used to make money or swap things they could not make or do themselves, barter. There were very few single tasked or single source incomed people, even the rulers and religious has farms and land as a source for their food and material wealth.This was a source of reliability resilience in the face of adversity and uncertainty. Basic income for all provides a floor to support basic living costs for all in order to provide security and freedom from severe want for people in the face of mass job losses.
Rudy made some good observations, but when he mentioned "Universal Basic Income" he went off the deep end. The "Government" is supposed to provide everyone an income. Mind you, where is all this money going to come from? Who is going to decide how much anyone gets? What happens when the distribution of income is deemed "unfair"? How does a person get appointed the one who determines who gets an income and who doesn't? What if someone, or a group of people, happen to need more than what they are given? There are far too many questions than there are answers. This is a really bad idea that has not been thought through very well.
This construct they are building is straight outta 1984, this guy is saying throw away all family oriented social societies and have a universal income/socialist state. It is a dystopian future.
The problem with UBI, as well as many other ideas from great minds, is assuming that those who receive such entitlements will use them to benefit themselves and those who depend upon them. Without a sense of "personal responsibility" there can be no success of anything given yet unearned. Alcoholism, drug addiction, child neglect, elder neglect, any and all human failures, will not improve with UBI. What happens when the benefit of UBI given is wasted by those that will not take responsibility for self and dependents. By what mechanism can government (or any other authority) insure that those given the blessing of UBI use the resource in a responsible way. Will failure to do so force those that cant, or won't, use it correctly onto the world as homeless and useless? What becomes of those that can't be convinced, nor coerced, into compliance to be a better race of human? What penalty?
Getting from where we are now to his idea of how we should be is slightly impossible without requiring everyone to work. Currently so many people are taking "entitlements" without contributing any work that we can barely stay afloat as a society. Forcing people to work would be called slavery. The solution is to let people take personal responsibility for their choices in life. Communities have always looked out for its own people and I believe we all still will if the government would just get out of the way.
Your right. If we follow this we will be saved. If we don't itll be the end of us. But my guess is there are too many greedies at the top rich layer with crab mentality who will not agree to this.
most crimes are made for money, money are a tool to survive in this society I am willing to work for free, help others grow and invest my life, invent things if I know tomorrow I have something to eat and where to sleep, the problem lays with the powerful people of today because they want to become richer and gain more and more power .... sad
"I am in absolute awe of what we have done." If you had told me that the life expectancy of Americans would start to drop, that American education and infrastructure would be on decline, that most of the relevant role models in technology including the CEO of Microsoft would be Asian, that we would have an anti-science president, I would have cried as I am crying now. www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/12/08/504667607/life-expectancy-in-u-s-drops-for-first-time-in-decades-report-finds
This is very true. looking into societies like Scandinavian countries were everyone is looked after in terms of basic needs and homes they are much more prospered more advanced healthier and less crimes
This is the last of worse of human conditions, the age of Kali ;disharmony, enforced ignorance, preplanned wars etc, etc, the true golden age has yet to return & blossom it will be a confusing, sometimes painfully rebirth/return to a refined, purer version of reality.
It is not easy at all to start as an entrepreneur especially when you are short on cash, unless it is an activity that doesn't need cash at all, like coaching (even for coaching you need a budget for marketing just for the simple reason of beating the competition). I gave up on doing something as a contractor and returning to same patrolled employee position doing a meaningless job for somebody else. The big drama is that the job is paying not enough to save for my llc. And if I drop the job I am scr****. I try to look for a night job as well to be able to save for my llc...but my wife is freaking out me being unstable and switching jobs every 2-6 months. I am freaking out doing meaningless jobs for somebody else... My father was an entrepreneur and he never worked for somebody else. And he had a phd. I couldn't understand at that time why he didn't choose a nice job working for somebody else. Now as I am a grown up, I can understand him.
Shame he didnt teach you the skills to do what he did. I think its about opportunities and he saw them or at least one and ran with it. I understand the contractor/ owning a business. Its a killer to stay ahead and to keep up with the over heads and insurances.
geoffas “Always?” We saw one dark age. Where does the “always” come from? I don’t think you mean the archeological dark ages. Irregardless, I do think this time is different. I thought he gave really compelling arguments showing humanity overcoming all sorts of hurdles. He didn’t address WMD though. I think if humanity was to fail, it most likely will be due to WMD and not natural disasters.
5 billion people added since I was born in 1960, all due to use of oil. Barely 1 billion existed prior to the petroleum age, which is also when electricity was figured out and perfected, still mostly generated by coal, natural gas, and nuclear. The progress made for many out of poverty has caused pollution and impending doom as per the man made climate change proponents. What if, what if the population today was same as 1960, as it is for European people only. Yes, yes, what a wonderful world it could have been.
@Lukas Dillinger no that is not the reason and people were having a lots of children be4 too it’s just more than half never lived to see their 1 birthday. We reduced that and people live longer instead of dying at 50-60. That’s why it feels like overpopulation. Old ppl are living longer and it’s a drain to a country workforce because you have support them (retirement, social security) etc before most die after few years from retirement now they love 25+ years smh
This is fascinating food for thought. If we distributed all our social program spending between people under the poverty line that would be 40,000 a person a year. I'm not saying we should do that, but we could feasibly eliminate poverty with a basic income and allow the free market to decide how exactly the poor get food and housing. I'm generally opposed to anything that sounds socialistic but with better automation this may be the best path.
Its not work we are looking for, its wealth! Im not driving a truck just because I want to, its because its what pays the bills. I can guarantee you no universal income will support my desired lifestyle. So what I hear, end work and put everyone into poverty and despair.
im an Australian disability pensioner living in soul crushing poverty i shouldn't have to sell my belongings to survive i firmly believe there should be a Universal basic income far above the poverty line
Universal Public Income is fine but it's not a substitute for social programs. The one example of Universal Public Income I am aware of is the treaty payment system for American Indians. I haven't studied it and I'm sure there are a lot of things I don't know about it but my understanding is that the results of this system are troubling. There are going to be people who piss away their UPI check (like me probably, I'm terrible with money) and they're still going to need food, shelter, healthcare, consumer protection, legal representation, transportation, etc. and many of these things are going to be out of reach of even the responsible recipients without government social assistance, especially if something isn't done about the cost of urban housing. I agree that there aren't going to be enough meaningful jobs for everyone going forward and that distribution of resources, including labor and employment resources, needs to be rethought, but that's only part of the problem. We're going to have to figure out a way to involve, in progress-oriented society, those who can't get jobs so that folks can take pride in their roles and not turn to things like martyrdom to find purpose, and bs entrepreneurship will only satisfy a small chunk of the affected population. Government has the power to mobilize populations and probably will be tasked to do so at some point. Hopefully it won't be for war, but even getting everybody out into a field marching around in circles can give people a sense of pride and personal value if you make it competitive and you demand and reward excellence. If you tell people they can work up to four hours a day but they have to do four hours of competitive circle walking with no overtime allowed then that really tightens the labor market more than doubling the number of jobs available. Of course it will also annoy everyone who thinks they could do better in a system that doesn't circumvent the market and it does put the kind of burden on companies that will drive many to seek more pliable work forces but hey, you can't please everyone.
this is such a thought provoking video. I just want to share my opinion that the Zeitgeist Movement truly has some good Concepts and we should all consider the possibilities of our future collectively. I have ingested some alcohol. that is all.
Universal basic income will be hard as hell to achieve. They don't want to support welfare as it is (socialism) It will cause huge migration issues because some places will have it and others will not.
You miss understand ethos of UBI. It is not 'welfare' as we know it ...a privilege but a universal citizen right which poor and rich alike will receive. Quite a few on the right support it coz it reduces gov size & meddling in economy through reduction of the 'welfare' bureaucracy. Open borders is another issue ...some studies indicate that open borders would actually ultimately benefit economies of inward-migration countries. but until states get their head around that border control would carry on as before. If it is successful in practice as in trials more and more countries will take it up so it will become less an issue. Also free movement within countries & between will even out regional, city/rural & inter-country disparity as well. A better world is possible.
If you create a universal basic income you will have to restrict immigration otherwise every man woman and child from the poorest countries, whose populations are in the billions, will come in and that income will evaporate.
UBI would be slightly better than welfare is, but i think a transition into a different societal structure would actually be a better result. I think people should be living in much larger families that can look after each other and have significant manpower in themselves. And in that situation, i think it would be possible to spread important skills much easier between people. Its important that everyone know how to design ai.
The few experiments done in various countries show the opposite. You are like a little child. You think up a monster under your bed and then get scared of it.
The absence of war, starvation, genocide, manufactured consent, and profits by any means will be the true mark of progress for the human race. What we ultimately choose to do with technology will indicate whether humans are moving towards perpetuation or the annihilation of our species.
If job is identity and happiness and a robot comes to take over, then humans should be lost and the robot is going to figure out what identity and happiness is....If it needs too....
basic income is basic welfare or slavery....stock options to provide dividends will create ownership. cut or Reverse taxes with stock options. Incentivize stock ownership in automation. ownership over slavery
The tax system could be more favourable for entraperners and temporary workers ie as it is you pay more if you earn the same but unevenly ie earn £50k one year but £10k the next you pay more tax than if you made 30k each year.
This is something that I've been thinking about a lot recently. Jobs will go. We have to transition to a new way of living.
And they will be replaced by new jobs. Blacksmiths gave way to auto mechanics. Computers didn't really exist 50 years ago but now we have hardware and software technicians and engineers. Stun guns didn't exist 40 years ago but now there is a booming business making, fixing, selling and repairing them. The list goes on and on and there are all the things in the future that we don't know about that will make new jobs.
Yes but today we are 8000 millions people almost not 300 millions like in the 1300 ac.
Mmmarvel the person While I agree that new jobs will be created, the number of new jobs will be reduced due to advancements in artificial intelligence.
To work means, simply, "to produce". Ultimately, overproduction is what's killing the planet. We need to pay people to NOT work!
Cory Hinman so pay me !...I don't work!
Being someone who's lived on social benefits for 20 years...... yet has also been working for not just my own benefit, but societies benefit too, throughout this time period. I applaud this speech and see the mentality of a guaranteed universal income a high priority.
I used to present a community radio show, yet at the end of this show i did not even have the finances to buy a cup of coffee. I went out of my way to present a professional show for my community - for no pay. Yet my community couldn't present me with the human dignity of being able to buy a drink for my hard work. Hence i was financially/socially excluded from my community...... which caused greater damage to my health.
Really Farmer, really?? You thought/believed that you were providing a professional show, but had the rest of the community/listening audience agreed you would have been sought after to upgrade from just a community show to something that someone wanted to advertise on. Your thoughts, your dreams would have propelled you to bigger and greater things on the radio. Since that didn't happen, then maybe the show didn't meet a need or maybe it wasn't as 'professional' as you believed it to be. Many of us work and then do something (like a community radio show, or handing food out to the poor, etc) on our off time; we feel that that is the way to give back to the community and mankind. Not sure why you've been on social benefits for 20 years but there are ways out of it. As I stated in another post (on this video) the problems with establishing a 'basic income' are HUGE to a point of impossible. The social benefits that we presently provide are there to help people when they need it, glad it was there to help you.
I had reached a level of professionalism that was more than adequate for a financial payment, yet sadly commercial radio or the brainwashing BBC, are not interested in paying presenters to promote a message that they themselves would deem to be anti-establishment or anti-capitalism. Neither are they interested in promoting music that is expanding peoples' consciousness or merely prompting them to think outside the box.
If you don't promote an image which they deem necessary to keep the general populace in a zombie/slave state then you won't be invited to become a social programmer within one of their select/snobbish social circles.
The problems with establishing a "basic income" are not impossible at all. In fact i'm already two thirds of the way there, with my current social benefits money. All i need is an extra amount to lift me out of a situation which is currently undignified to the human spirit, and having a further detrimental effect on my overall health.
If we want the sick to become better, and the physically disabled to find a niche placement within our society, then i suggest we give them an amount of money which doesn't prohibit them from participating within that society.
Or in other words an amount of money that doesn't banish them to be financially housebound.
Until the masses can understand the basic concept that people can have and can offer value beyond making profit for someone else, we're going to be stuck.
At present, we're taking people doing valuable volunteer and community work, with skills, experience and knowledge, and we're forcing them into shitty, bottom rung, zero hour contracts....because we just can't bear the fact that they're not making money for someone at the top, instead 'merely' making lives better in their local area.
Yes. There is much work that needs to be done, but it's not being done because it's not profitable for the elites. Schools need tutors and helpers but can't afford them. Hospitals and nursing homes need caregivers, but won't hire them because they eat into profits. The roads in my county are in terrible shape but the right wing government doesn't want to raise taxes on the rich to pay for repairs. My city can't afford an animal control officer. Our bridges are literally falling apart. We've got work that needs to be done and workers who don't have jobs. Any system that is unable or unwilling to pay those workers to do that work is a failure by any definition.
I was on sickness benefit for a little while but rose out of actual sickness when I realised you can do some paid work without losing the extra cash. I used this as a springboard back into full time work. That's the way out of the trap in the UK. YMMV though as I'm a skilled professional with a master's degree and 15 years experience. If you only just graduated high school then you may be better off on welfare handouts than taking some awful badly paid degrading drudge work.
Most people hate their jobs, everything is expensive and pay is low
Chad Smith
Five people all got 100 dollars
Wanting to buy one apple to eat
Apple quantity is the same , we are increasing
Great video. "We create work for ourselves" This is exactly what freedom is. Freedom is not about relaxing and doing nothing all day as some people may think if you get a basic income. Freedom is following a passion that gives meaning to your life. Not because you have to, but because you want to. I tackled an aspect of this subject in my new video: 3 hobbies everyone should have. I call work a hobby instead of a job.
This talk is one of the best things I've heard in a long time. I will re-watch it and listen even more closely to this man's words, and I suspect that it will bring me new things. I suggest we all seriously think about this, deeply, since it contains many layers. Thanks for sharing this!!!
It used to be that work was necessary for survival. In this situation, capable people who don’t work can truly be called parasites. In a society where jobs are dwindling, calling people who don’t work “parasites” is victim blaming.
Once the fear of survival is eliminated, many can focus on their true calling and therefore will perform better at whatever they choose to pursue.
Once money is no longer a factor in life, greed will diminish, planned obsolescence will no longer be a business model, products will be designed to last longer, pollution will naturally decrease.
This is a statement for future generations. This nonsense of working like slaves for the pursuit of money will be seen as a rudimentary behaviour from us early 21 century humans.
Watching this video in 2024 and it feels so ironic when our jobless youth have become a fodder for the alphabet soup, street protests and violence.
Meanwhile, AI is already taking over jobs and much more. And yet, we do have new avenues of entrepreneurship but few takers while we get divided into binaries and wars.
This is the reality of the dream they called the Universal Basic Income. Welcome to the future.
Man, I can't wait for this "golden age" to blossom.
Gabriel Beausoleil-Labranche we will all be dead before that age
Gabriel Beausoleil-Labranche - don't hold your breath
If cuts in work hours and/or salaries increases had kept pace with the increments productivity since the 1970's, people today should need to work a lot less hours / day to get by...and the ones who like to work more should making a lot more money as well!!!! employers took the productivity gains without telling anybody about it!!!
its for the rich in USA not for you you get unemployment or working poor status and you cannot have the new toys
@@nytroglicerine5311 its all the workers from overseas they keep wages down
UBI is the economic side of treating people as members of the universal family.
William Powhida which won't happen
you are so right william! by the way, times are rough you know? wanna give me a few grand so i can make it through the month? my heroine addiction is taking all my income but im trying to quit!
You're not getting it. Automation is going to make UBI a necessity.
+enchantrand-esque - No sir, you're the one not getting it, UBI is not sustainable, improbable, and (in so many ways) just plain stupid. You sir are the epitome of a Luddite. Good Luck, you ARE going to need it.
+ktraider100
you are not trying if you are still doing it, you are just feel bad about it and then go shoot some more
I work in a factory packing boxes into boxes, it is NOT meaningful work.
Random question: have you ever packed yourself into a box at that job for laughs?
sonfo hendrix - then look FOR meaningful work. Oh and BTW, it IS meaningful to the company that hired you to do the job, or they wouldn't have hired you. Look, most of us have done 'meaningless' jobs in our lifetime. I was a grocery clerk (full time) one of the things it taught me was I didn't want to be a grocery clerk for my career (although some people did do that). I waited on tables, I ran a wave soldering machine, I trimmed Christmas trees and the list goes on. Don't get hung up on whatever job you are presently in, especially if you know it's NOT what you want to do with your life. Look for the next experience, do something to enhance your ability to take the next step - oh and don't quit what you are doing until you have that next job.
That's good advice. But actually if you think about it what most people want to do is either create something significant, or study, or play. That is the truth, the majority of people have jobs they don't like but that pays the bills.. Hopefully AI will mean we wont have to go to work just to do something we dont like in order to earn an income.. I personally would choose both creating things and studying/learning.. Things i can't do now unless the government had universal basic income.
sonof hendrix - So what is stopping you now from doing your creative stuff/studying and learning? If you (or I or anyone) WANTS to create something, then we FIND time to do it. Hey I like roasting my own coffee, I also roast for friends, but (obviously) I do it in my spare time/my free time. I study courses that are going to help me in my career, I've even been told that should I pass some tests there is a raise in it for me. Not sure about the 'majority of people have jobs they don't like'; yes some do, others (like myself) do NOT dread going to work every day, I like where I work and like what I do. Wasn't thrilled about running a wave soldering machine, but quickly figured out that wasn't a job that I wanted/liked and went about finding another one. UBI is just a crutch, too many people will complain that it doesn't give them enough money to ___ you fill in the blank.
I cannot afford to do courses, the only studying i can do is the free stuff which does not earn you a certificate or qualification. And where as i can find free time to do creative stuff, i meant in an ideal world, like being part of creating something very significant, like a huge project to create a mega-structure or something. Rich people and upper classes are the ones that can afford to study whatever they want because it does not matter if it does not lead to a job. UBI is not a crutch, its an enabler. But there will also be a lot of lazy, useless eaters and reprobates receiving UBI eventually, because the governments will have no choice at all in the matter. It will be UBI or violent riots and revolution. Because all the unskilled jobs, truck drivers, taxi drivers etc wont exist.
understanding of neglegence and failed responsibility to nurture future generations with love, compasion, and best intreast will continue the cycle of karma unless we free ourselves and be consciouss about false beliefes that burden future generations. with this level of concsiousness, we will have unity and resonate to the frequency of those that are in need of healing of the soul to change the reality for the well being of humanity.
"A millionaire is a person who affects in a positive way a million people" - Jason Silva
I would say it strongly depends on the millionaire...
For example, most dictators are millionaires.
Jonathan Gasser - Don't forget the "in a positive way" part.
Enslaving them in the process...
Im sure the ICO Millionaires that have taken everyones money would agree with that sentiment too.... lol
Aaron Bono ✨👌🏽✨Some people prefer not to take everything into account.
Well said, an equitable world for everyone on the planet is fundamental to a sustainable secure future.
Most have Stockholm's syndrome in regards to jobs and our economy... We must shed that past off our backs and embrace an abundant worldview.
Wow, wow, wow I didn't know or don't know! ! ! ! ! EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS TRULY INGENIOUS. . . .
One of the best talks on RUclips
I absolutely love the idea of UBI. Can you please provide a link to how it can be done? I really enjoy TED Talks. They are super inspirational. Thank you for your talk.
Rudy, I do hope you find (or have found) meaning in your life expanding this idea and spearheading its evolution. namaste
Once I started looking into robotic systems, AI, exponential growth and UBI universal basic income (freedom dividend) - it's amazing how many TED Talks there are and how many great minds have researched this and put their information out for everyone to see, hear and read. I now support Andrew Yang for president because he is the candidate that has a vision of what will happen and what is happening. He is forward-thinking on how to go with the future and not being overcome by it
I've spent several days scanning over these comments and I'm perplexed by many of them. So many people act as though there is a choice to be made here. The machines are coming for all of our jobs. if we don't redistribute the wealth they create in some way, billions of people will slowly starve to death. There is no other option.
Look at why are there so many jobs by david autor , it’s a ted talk and it is on youtube. The stuff u are saying have been said many times through history and yet the amount of adults that are employed has risen. Find out why.
You will not strive to Death , that is only the fear spread by these fuckwits,, We are very creative to make everything work. I am here for you. Are you?
watch 'Soylent Green'
Agree
I do not feel as though we are truly in the Golden Age yet, although we have certainly arrived at the cusp of an extremely important Moment In Time in which if we work collectively we really could create a true golden age.
The local jobcentre has been trying to force me into a dead end job for ages, this will reck my career, they cut me off when in an M&S interview I was asked what job I wanted and replied lecturer in physics
Yes! Universal basic income to meet basic needs for food, shelter, and healthcare.
Great lecture. Sapiens are surplus to need. Either we change our society or it is ripped apart; not by bombs or global warming but by our perspective and value of humanity itself.
I hate it when people talk about 'technology' that are available, but not 'economically sustainable yet'. The technology we have is impressive, yes. But we are still far away from implementing it everywhere.
ummm do you understand the term exponential and what that means? ill give you the basics. you start with 1 and that goes to 2, then to 4, then to 8... etc etc. so basically, its starts off slowly, almost like there is no real change(thats where we are at currently) but eventually, the numbers get larger, FASTER, and by that point, if we are talking about jobs and the economy, it will be too late because robots and AI's(that develop at an exponential rate) will be everywhere. Resulting in a large section of the population unemployed. So, what do we do?
Eat your words! I am from the future.
Very true
Thank you
Great inspiring talk Rudy, Thanks
"It is our choice who we are" 🙏💯
I would argue the biggest threat of automation is perfection. Humans are not designed to exist in perfection, we need a purpose to keep on living, or we'll kill ourselves (or waste ourselves away, being essentially dead but still alive). If the world is perfect and all human problems are solves, there's noting left for us to do but sit around and be perfect. We would go crazy. What purpose we could potentially have is taking over the solar system/universe, which would keep us occupied, but robots could probably do that for us.
loved it man
Excellent speech! It's time for basic income.
Basic income is a really bad idea. Basic income for where?? Let's say (I'm picking a number out of the air) that you could get food, shelter and utilities in Omaha, Nebraska for $1000 a month, so we set that as the 'basic income' number. Well, how far will $1000 a month go in San Fransisco, or Seattle, or New York City?? Let's say out of that $1000 a month you were suppose to be spending $300 a month on food (single person) which is $75 per week. But they say, the foods I want and like cost more than that $75 per week, you need to give me more. Or I don't like to cook, so I eat out as often as I can and the rest are pre-packaged foods (which are expensive) so you need to give me more money. Is internet and cable TV included? If not, why not and what happens when the costs of those two things go up? How about my cell phone? I want the latest and greatest iPhone, and a plan with unlimited talk, text and data; oh and it HAS to be on Verizon, I won't do any other carrier. I don't like taking the bus so are you giving me a car? Cause I certainly don't have money for car payments, oh and I'll need extra money for the gas.insurance and maintenance. Your 'basic' plan allows me (single person) to live in a 300 square foot apartment - well, that's WAY too small for me AND I don't like the part of town that it's located in, so you have to change all that. Are you seeing the problems??? Or is it just a 'feels good' idea??
Universal basic income sounds like the communist ideal of "from each based on their ability, to each based on their needs".
UBI could rather seem like a 'middle way' between capitalism and communism. According to me, it's just the best possible compromise!
In most programs, everyone gets the same amount (to cover food and housing only); it's not based on income or talent. It would also help create a smaller government.
Albert Mystik That's called Socialism
We're doing jobs based on A) an old system, and B) out of habit. Making ends meet should not be a thing in the 21st century and something like a Basic Income should have been introduced 20 years ago to preemptively cope with the changing technological world. The old bleat of "Just get a job and you'll be ok" if false. There's no security in most jobs and the pay is too low to realistically live on, and when I say live I mean LIVE, not have basics covered. That just covers existence.
Its deadly to be hanging out in an office for more than 10 years, that's crazy - not a career, more like a suicide club membership.
Aspiring speak! Thanks for sharing!
We shouldn't be fighting for more jobs :D We should be fighting for freedom from jobs. We should utilize technologies to automate all the necessities of life :D Automated farms and automated house building capabilities, automated mining to get all the necessary elements we need to build what we need and want to build. Advanced 3D Printers capable of building everything we want and need. We should be living in abundance free from 9-5 illogical mind numbing routines that a computer can do. This world needs to change we need to change and in doing so make ourselves more free and better because of it. :D
So glad to have TEDx on RUclips. Those minds are really presenting the solution for the latent changes the world is requiring. Let's spread it to our connections and I am sure everyone will get it. Mankind will wake-up and thrive, by blending the eastern and western cultures together and being ONE.
Nice Ted talk.a man of vision
why stop at universal income, how about universal basic health care and education to employable levels
And universal free basic education and universal free individual housing (at the beach of course) and universal free utilities and cable TV and internet and, and, and. No what it is is universal free nonsense.
+Froggy Noddy - Happy to take you up on that bet in an instant. Right now we have a shortage of skilled and semi-skilled workers, carpenters, electricians, plumbers even good old laborers. What I see is too many people who don't want to do the jobs available but want to get paid for not doing them.
Johnny Walker - India is too broke to make it work.
Troy Gardner the universal income COULD be made high enough for someone to CHOOSE what food and how much to purchase and whether to have insurance and how much and what kind, using the choices available in a FREE MARKET. A universal minimum income should be prevented from becoming YET ANOTHER failed communist or FAR left socialist nation. Capitalism is STILL the best system for innovation, freedom of choice, etc. It simply is too easily abused due to the INEVITABLE and self reinforcing concentration of wealth. But we should keep as many of the good parts of capitalism as we can...NOT CRONY CORPORATISM *AND NOT LITERAL WORSHIP OF THE RICH AS INHERENTLY SUPERIOR HUMANS,* which IS what we have now.
nycholaus
my post was partly tongue in cheek, snarky.
humanity is intrinsically corrupt, neither left not right has the answer, any system can and is gamed and its not just us, even crows and cockroaches thrive in our blindsight.
Many time a job is the only achieve those goals. Days can be so expensive the sciences can I have been things on their own and rely on the resources of a large company. A job is not an unnecessary thing
Great & insightful Talk!👏👍💪🙋
WOW, bathroom rights. What a golden age
We do have the technology to automate nearly everything in an advanced economy like the US. I think a "basic income" is coming.
it will only come if you fight for it
Yes it is how they will control us
Universal Basic Income. This is how we get to a Type 1 society.
it requires responsibility and accountability from society and people. Having cash to spend requires critical thinking.
Resource Based Economy!
...and #BasicIncome for all.
We need freedom
There is something that is altogether missed in most speeches I hear about the structuring of societies. Until the core of this one problem is truly recognized and understood by the larger population - we are destined to experience the resulting pain. We need to understand what mental illness is behind fear based methods of control. Most systems use methods of revenge, vengeance, and condemnation. They ravenously seek to establish guilt to satisfy or quench a gruesome desire to destroy
through punishments that are designed to torture rather than correct, restore or heal. These depraved ideas do not serve justice. If they were seen for what they actually do serve, there would be no such thing as prison, privately owned or otherwise. This illness is hidden in individual minds as well as collective. Minds have been conditioned in a way that obscures the real opportunities for intelligent, peaceful responses that form societal "norms."
Until the roots of these insane ideas are exposed they will continue to make extremely imbalanced systems. These systems always promote pain through guilt, ignorance, fear and scarcity.
As a serial capitalist and economist, the idea of any government entitlements raises red flags. The threat of incentivizing people to NOT be contributing members of society is always there. I also believe in living in a society that doesn't leave a portion of its members in destitution and poverty unnecessarily. Exhibit A, the healthcare debates raging in American political circles. If we guarantee care to everyone, how will we ever be able to afford it? Government spending is already way out of control. If our system doesn't cover everyone, how many people is it acceptable to leave out? Who gets to decide? And can we justify the morality of that situation? Universal Basic Income I'm picturing as something akin to an expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit would be extremely valuable as we move toward an economy that may require vast swathes of the workforce to be retrained. Farming went from 90% to 2% but it took 200+ years. This tech-caused shift in work could be just as drastic and happen during our lifetimes. I sometimes consider whether the degree I recently earned will be worth much of anything at all in 50 years...
we aren't in the golden age. we are on the cusp of it.
We can only do one thing we have to become creative otherwise AI is better than us....the only thing we can do is to become conscious ....there is no other solution....I am ready to surrender if anyone comes with anything other than consciousness
In the middle ages most people has several income streams in their lives, most were subsistence farmers but not all. Some were artisans who also has a skill learnt from a master which they used to make money or swap things they could not make or do themselves, barter. There were very few single tasked or single source incomed people, even the rulers and religious has farms and land as a source for their food and material wealth.This was a source of reliability resilience in the face of adversity and uncertainty. Basic income for all provides a floor to support basic living costs for all in order to provide security and freedom from severe want for people in the face of mass job losses.
Here we are in 2020 with major job loss and a Pandemic
The WEF wants us to give up modern luxuries, eat bugs, and ride around on our bamboo bikes
Golden age , I'd much rather go back and live in the 1980s again
Rudy made some good observations, but when he mentioned "Universal Basic Income" he went off the deep end. The "Government" is supposed to provide everyone an income. Mind you, where is all this money going to come from? Who is going to decide how much anyone gets? What happens when the distribution of income is deemed "unfair"? How does a person get appointed the one who determines who gets an income and who doesn't? What if someone, or a group of people, happen to need more than what they are given? There are far too many questions than there are answers. This is a really bad idea that has not been thought through very well.
It is going to come from products that robots make. Instead of paying the robots, we pay people.
This construct they are building is straight outta 1984, this guy is saying throw away all family oriented social societies and have a universal income/socialist state. It is a dystopian future.
You are unfortunately right!
Not at all
Brave New World.
The problem with UBI, as well as many other ideas from great minds, is assuming that those who receive such entitlements will use them to benefit themselves and those who depend upon them. Without a sense of "personal responsibility" there can be no success of anything given yet unearned. Alcoholism, drug addiction, child neglect, elder neglect, any and all human failures, will not improve with UBI. What happens when the benefit of UBI given is wasted by those that will not take responsibility for self and dependents. By what mechanism can government (or any other authority) insure that those given the blessing of UBI use the resource in a responsible way. Will failure to do so force those that cant, or won't, use it correctly onto the world as homeless and useless? What becomes of those that can't be convinced, nor coerced, into compliance to be a better race of human? What penalty?
Getting from where we are now to his idea of how we should be is slightly impossible without requiring everyone to work. Currently so many people are taking "entitlements" without contributing any work that we can barely stay afloat as a society. Forcing people to work would be called slavery. The solution is to let people take personal responsibility for their choices in life. Communities have always looked out for its own people and I believe we all still will if the government would just get out of the way.
Your right. If we follow this we will be saved. If we don't itll be the end of us. But my guess is there are too many greedies at the top rich layer with crab mentality who will not agree to this.
Actually it would make them more wealthy and the free market would function as it should.
most crimes are made for money, money are a tool to survive in this society
I am willing to work for free, help others grow and invest my life, invent things if I know tomorrow I have something to eat and where to sleep, the problem lays with the powerful people of today because they want to become richer and gain more and more power .... sad
Universal high income, free education and housing
But first we must destroy Sauron.
You won't be playing the game. It will be playing you. Actually it already is.
5:10 is true!
"I am in absolute awe of what we have done."
If you had told me that the life expectancy of Americans would start to drop, that American education and infrastructure would be on decline, that most of the relevant role models in technology including the CEO of Microsoft would be Asian, that we would have an anti-science president, I would have cried as I am crying now.
www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/12/08/504667607/life-expectancy-in-u-s-drops-for-first-time-in-decades-report-finds
Andrew_Owens have you tried not crying?
Andrew_Owens I'm so sorry that happened to your country
This is very true. looking into societies like Scandinavian countries were everyone is looked after in terms of basic needs and homes they are much more prospered more advanced healthier and less crimes
I don't think taking any examples from Scandinavia is a very good idea at the moment
Taylor Anderson and why is that.???
This is the last of worse of human conditions, the age of Kali ;disharmony, enforced ignorance, preplanned wars etc, etc, the true golden age has yet to return & blossom it will be a confusing, sometimes painfully rebirth/return to a refined, purer version of reality.
excellent sir , awesome as always , i am proud to say i worked with you at kenexa india
universal basic income and right to nature
This is profound, most TED talks are so much hot air
Success..
Miss Rudy. Wish I still worked for him! Great video.
It is not easy at all to start as an entrepreneur especially when you are short on cash, unless it is an activity that doesn't need cash at all, like coaching (even for coaching you need a budget for marketing just for the simple reason of beating the competition). I gave up on doing something as a contractor and returning to same patrolled employee position doing a meaningless job for somebody else. The big drama is that the job is paying not enough to save for my llc. And if I drop the job I am scr****. I try to look for a night job as well to be able to save for my llc...but my wife is freaking out me being unstable and switching jobs every 2-6 months. I am freaking out doing meaningless jobs for somebody else... My father was an entrepreneur and he never worked for somebody else. And he had a phd. I couldn't understand at that time why he didn't choose a nice job working for somebody else. Now as I am a grown up, I can understand him.
Shame he didnt teach you the skills to do what he did. I think its about opportunities and he saw them or at least one and ran with it. I understand the contractor/ owning a business. Its a killer to stay ahead and to keep up with the over heads and insurances.
Golden ages have always been followed by dark ages. I see no reason for this one to be any different.
geoffas
“Always?” We saw one dark age. Where does the “always” come from? I don’t think you mean the archeological dark ages.
Irregardless, I do think this time is different. I thought he gave really compelling arguments showing humanity overcoming all sorts of hurdles. He didn’t address WMD though. I think if humanity was to fail, it most likely will be due to WMD and not natural disasters.
Sure let's not break the pattern. Let's not even try.
5 billion people added since I was born in 1960, all due to use of oil. Barely 1 billion existed prior to the petroleum age, which is also when electricity was figured out and perfected, still mostly generated by coal, natural gas, and nuclear. The progress made for many out of poverty has caused pollution and impending doom as per the man made climate change proponents. What if, what if the population today was same as 1960, as it is for European people only. Yes, yes, what a wonderful world it could have been.
@Lukas Dillinger no that is not the reason and people were having a lots of children be4 too it’s just more than half never lived to see their 1 birthday. We reduced that and people live longer instead of dying at 50-60. That’s why it feels like overpopulation. Old ppl are living longer and it’s a drain to a country workforce because you have support them (retirement, social security) etc before most die after few years from retirement now they love 25+ years smh
This is fascinating food for thought.
If we distributed all our social program spending between people under the poverty line that would be 40,000 a person a year. I'm not saying we should do that, but we could feasibly eliminate poverty with a basic income and allow the free market to decide how exactly the poor get food and housing.
I'm generally opposed to anything that sounds socialistic but with better automation this may be the best path.
I don't see a golden time, I only dystopia., a world devoured by greed, mass surveillance, and wars we didn't ask for..
great talk Rudy!! i wish you well
Thanks a lot.
Exactly.
Its not work we are looking for, its wealth! Im not driving a truck just because I want to, its because its what pays the bills. I can guarantee you no universal income will support my desired lifestyle. So what I hear, end work and put everyone into poverty and despair.
How do we gonna live one day in the future when all the problems will solve and everything that could invent will be invented
He was explaining "ZAKAAT" from welthy people to less fortunate people. How many understand me 😀 ?
im an Australian disability pensioner living in soul crushing poverty i shouldn't have to sell my belongings to survive i firmly believe there should be a Universal basic income far above the poverty line
Universal Public Income is fine but it's not a substitute for social programs. The one example of Universal Public Income I am aware of is the treaty payment system for American Indians. I haven't studied it and I'm sure there are a lot of things I don't know about it but my understanding is that the results of this system are troubling. There are going to be people who piss away their UPI check (like me probably, I'm terrible with money) and they're still going to need food, shelter, healthcare, consumer protection, legal representation, transportation, etc. and many of these things are going to be out of reach of even the responsible recipients without government social assistance, especially if something isn't done about the cost of urban housing. I agree that there aren't going to be enough meaningful jobs for everyone going forward and that distribution of resources, including labor and employment resources, needs to be rethought, but that's only part of the problem. We're going to have to figure out a way to involve, in progress-oriented society, those who can't get jobs so that folks can take pride in their roles and not turn to things like martyrdom to find purpose, and bs entrepreneurship will only satisfy a small chunk of the affected population. Government has the power to mobilize populations and probably will be tasked to do so at some point. Hopefully it won't be for war, but even getting everybody out into a field marching around in circles can give people a sense of pride and personal value if you make it competitive and you demand and reward excellence. If you tell people they can work up to four hours a day but they have to do four hours of competitive circle walking with no overtime allowed then that really tightens the labor market more than doubling the number of jobs available. Of course it will also annoy everyone who thinks they could do better in a system that doesn't circumvent the market and it does put the kind of burden on companies that will drive many to seek more pliable work forces but hey, you can't please everyone.
Changed my life
this is such a thought provoking video. I just want to share my opinion that the Zeitgeist Movement truly has some good Concepts and we should all consider the possibilities of our future collectively.
I have ingested some alcohol. that is all.
This guy is way too optimistic. This will not end.
jobs will disappear but I don't think the outcome will be that bright... hope you're right my friend
But how accessible is this type of technology to smaller and developing nations?
Appreciate His passion!
Universal basic income will be hard as hell to achieve. They don't want to support welfare as it is (socialism) It will cause huge migration issues because some places will have it and others will not.
JustKeith All jobs will go regardless, theyll have to come up with a solution because capitalism is about to die a really swift, painless death.
You miss understand ethos of UBI. It is not 'welfare' as we know it ...a privilege but a universal citizen right which poor and rich alike will receive. Quite a few on the right support it coz it reduces gov size & meddling in economy through reduction of the 'welfare' bureaucracy. Open borders is another issue ...some studies indicate that open borders would actually ultimately benefit economies of inward-migration countries. but until states get their head around that border control would carry on as before. If it is successful in practice as in trials more and more countries will take it up so it will become less an issue. Also free movement within countries & between will even out regional, city/rural & inter-country disparity as well. A better world is possible.
If you create a universal basic income you will have to restrict immigration otherwise every man woman and child from the poorest countries, whose populations are in the billions, will come in and that income will evaporate.
we are NOT living in the golden age of our species.
yeah ok well give me a 10 year period where it was better? .. over too you
UBI would be slightly better than welfare is, but i think a transition into a different societal structure would actually be a better result. I think people should be living in much larger families that can look after each other and have significant manpower in themselves. And in that situation, i think it would be possible to spread important skills much easier between people. Its important that everyone know how to design ai.
Salt water into fresh water? Guess what? The US Navy has been doing it at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba since the 1960s.
i think basic income will devalue money, people will spend monthly alowance in few days and even get into more debt.
The few experiments done in various countries show the opposite. You are like a little child. You think up a monster under your bed and then get scared of it.
If you told me 10 years ago a guy with a toupee would be on TED telling me about the future . . .
Did you hear that less than enthusiastic 'golf clap' at the end? I think most wealthy people don't like the idea of UBI.
The absence of war, starvation, genocide, manufactured consent, and profits by any means will be the true mark of progress for the human race. What we ultimately choose to do with technology will indicate whether humans are moving towards perpetuation or the annihilation of our species.
If job is identity and happiness and a robot comes to take over, then humans should be lost and the robot is going to figure out what identity and happiness is....If it needs too....
Just because someone is passionate about something does not make them right..
What a sham :(
Doesn’t make it wrong either...
Bring it on!
basic income is basic welfare or slavery....stock options to provide dividends will create ownership.
cut or Reverse taxes with stock options. Incentivize stock ownership in automation. ownership over slavery
The tax system could be more favourable for entraperners and temporary workers ie as it is you pay more if you earn the same but unevenly ie earn £50k one year but £10k the next you pay more tax than if you made 30k each year.