Few ideas: - Top 5 guns with exotic/rare calibers - Top 5 Sniper rifles - Top 5 modern guns that will become a collector/antique - Top 5 Assassins guns - Top 5 "Muskets" (Black Powder rifles) - Top 5 guns that should have never been released
I smiled when I saw the Schmidt Ruben that was my first rifle I owned back in 1971. I bought it for $25 at a police auction. Two things you will never see again.
To be considered antique it has to be made PRE 1899 if you got a gun manufactured December 31 1898 it's an antique and doesn't need paperwork if you have the same exact gun manufactured the next day it has to have a back ground for purchase and by the ATF definition is an antique firearm
Can you chop down the barrel and stock of a pre 1899 antique? Would an 1897 'potato digger’ machine gun count as an antique since it was made before 1899?
@@rednecksniper4715all antique firearms are exempt from NFA regulations. if it is not by deffiniton an antique firearm (modern mechanism that allow conventional ammo to be used) then it is subject.
The Beaumont was a single shot designed and manufactured in 1871 BUT was converted in 1888 to take the Vitali 4 round box magazine so It's more accurate to say its late 1880's tech not early 1870's tech.
I had a dream where I was captain of the royal guard for a monarch and the weapons issued to the guard were ridiculously powerful bolt action rifles and being captain of the royal guard I got a very beautiful rifle that was all black with golden vines and golden leaves leading towards the front of the barrel
I'd love to get myself a Dutch Beaumont over the trapdoor. Then again, I am of Dutch heritage. Darn it, watching these guys is expensive. I already bought and restored a Martini Henry after their video on the subject, let alone some of the modern stuff. (With that said, keep it going guys.)
So excited for rare mosins. I've got 7 rare mosins that of course I paid way less than what they're actually worth because the sellers didn't know the markings or history of them... $50 for an original 1891 dragoon Cossack for example
Is it just me or did the ATF just redefine what an antique gun is? I had always heard and was always of the belief that if a gun was a muzzleloader, cap and ball revolver or if a gun was made before 1898 (and is not a machine gun) it was considered an antique and NFA rules don't apply. For instance if you bought an 1873 trapdoor in 45-70 it usually gets shipped straight to your door. However when I looked this up on the ATFs website today this is what I found. Firearms Verification National Firearms Act Definitions Antique Firearm 26 U.S.C. § 5845(G) "For the purposes of the National Firearms Act, the term “Antique Firearms” means any firearm *NOT INTENDED OR REDESIGNED FOR USING RIM FIRE OR CONVENTIONAL CENTER FIRE IGNITION WITH FIXED AMMUNITION AND MANUFACTURED IN OR BEFORE 1898* (including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap or similar type of ignition system or replica thereof, whether actually manufactured before or after the year 1898) and also any firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade." So does this mean that since my 159 year old 1862 S&W Model 1 is chambered in 22 short and 22 short is still manufactured in the U.S and is available on the consumer market it's now considered a modern Firearm and is no longer an antique?
1. AK-47 (but what didn't popularize it?) 2. Desert Eagle 3. Barrett M82 4. M1 Garand 5. M134 Minigun (and contemporaries) Of course like +The Red Rifleman said, Hollywood also had a hand in popularizing all 5 of those weapons
My favorite will definitely be the Swedish mauser M96, in caliber 6.5x55. Exceptional Swedish quality, and in a caliber that if any ammo has passed the test of time, and is still going strong! The Swedish mausers is also known for their absolutely amazing precision, even after 120+ years! And they are strong enough to cope with modern ammo. My choice for sure :-) Even though I am from Denmark ;-)
Five east Asian firearms would be interesting. Also about the mosins I would think people are trying to take advantage of prepper type individuals. The mosin is almost the fall back rifle when everyone says if you need a firearm that is solid but not a lot of money buy a mosin. People stock up on mosins. Others take advantage of that. Just a thought.
I loved the video guys. Great picks. I want one of all of them. My wish list just keeps growing every time you guys put out a milsurp/antique video. You're going to make me go broke.
That Portuguese rifle looks remarkably like a modified swedish husqvarna rifle or musket. For a second there i thought i was looking at a modified m/1845.
I know this is old thread, but I have a Beaumont, but not like the one you talked about. Mine is short, almost like a Carbine, with a metal curved butt plate. Date shows 1885. No impression on the side of the stock. Rough Shape though, missing the site.
I load cast, powder coated rounds for my Swiss rifles in 7.5x55. I have two 1889's and I can use the same cast loads I use in the other rifles as long as I don't use the K31 specific sizing die. I don't have to trim the brass any differently than I do for the other rifles. It works perfectly. The loads are light enough already that they are completely safe in the 1889. So, if you're already loading for the other Swiss rifles and using mild cast loads, chances are they will chamber fine and be safe in the 1889. I also reload my GP-11 brass, I just made a setup to hydraulically decap them using a shank from a very long bolt. I got one just slightly larger than the neck diameter and "turned it down" with sandpaper while it was chucked in a drill until it fit snug in the neck of the brass. I fill the case with water and give it a smack...primer comes right out. You can also use some kind of a homemade tool like a nail punch, hold the brass in the sizing die upside-down in your press, and smack the punch into the primer at an angle and pry it right out. It's really easy brass to deprime, unlike some of the other military brass that has very stubborn primers.
4:55 most 1889's take the 7.5x55 cartridge just fine. it's true they cant take the pressure but they most certainly will chamber them more often than not.
If it has a frame or receiver and chambers a centerfire cartridge or rimfire (.22 LR) cartridge that is readily available i.e. .45-70, .45 LC, etc. it is NOT an antique. Must go through an FFL. I don't know why so many people do not understand this regulation. Doesn't matter when it was made if it falls into the above category. A Colt P model 1873 made in 1873 will kill someone just as readily as a new made replica. That's ATFE's point in all this. If you have a felony conviction on your record and bought a percussion revolver, you are in violation as it is a firearm. If you have a percussion revolver and the conversion cylinder to convert that revolver to centerfire, it must go through an FFL if you sell the revolver and cylinder together or offer for sale together. A Gatling Gun is not a machine gun as the firing pin must be released for each shot by means of a mechanical motion of a crank or electric motor. There are many devices that allow very fast firing in the realm of machine guns, but they are employing a single release function that is by definition semi-auto.
my list ,,,1970 vintage my Dad paid in 1970 at a sporting store in Anchorage Alaska 375.00 Browning High Power 9mm made in Belgium 14 down 1up a BEAUTY .Then the springfield M1GRAND , my Dad and I restored and have gone out for years and shot with all kinds of ammo to play with from ap ,tracers,110gr,and our favorite 168 match,with my Dad saying i flinched into it with a paper plate group off hand slinged at 800YARDS (with our range finder )
The Peabody design made by Providence Tool co. is the ORIGINAL Martini. Swiss jerk named Martini didn't mind patent infringement. The rifle won the military trial in late 1860's but the Trapdoor was adopted even though it came in 3rd. Mine is a Massachusetts militia rifle in .43 Spanish with the rack tag. I also have a patent infringement Martini Henery. Peabody in .43 Spanish was much more accurate.
the one exception to the "antique" rule is NJ -- they have reclassified anything that essentially can injure someone by any means of moving a projectile a "gun" TO INCLUDE black powder and guns older than 1898 -- so you still need the FPID (FOID orhwatever you wish to call it).
I've got 4 of the real classics of all time that I treasure 1. 1877 Martini-Henry MK II 2. 1883 Springfield Trapdoor 3. 1893 Mauser 7mm 4. 1898 Krag Jorgenson And my next addition soon will be a 1885 Remington-Lee in 45-70
When I first bought a gun I got a mosin 91/30 for $400.... got ripped off without really knowing at a gun shop in buffalo, NY. The salesperson wouldn't even knock off $20..... They put a bad name on the industry
Nice guns, but... They're hard to find, cost $400-700 each, chambered in obsolete and expensive ammo? Makes you wonder why 98% of Americans would rather buy an old pawn shop Marlin or Remington....
I believe the definition of an antique firearm, should be changed to any firearms thats 25 years old, or older. Regardless of the type of ammunition it shoots or the action it has. Mostly because it doesn't make sense that a antique firearm has to be over a hundred years old, but we have firearms from WW2 and the cold war; in museums right now. Are we to believe those arms aren't antiques? Time is constantly moving forward and so should our laws.
My personal view on the "cowboy guns" is they lack the story and history that the ones you had on the video. The trapdoor, snider, martini Henry, rolling block, and the Dutch Beaumont (spelling?) all have such a better history. It was the trapdoor that ultimate opened up the west and for better or worse defeated all the native tribes that rose up in defiance to the federal gov after the civil war. The snider and martini Henry helped the British maintain and expand there empire which was the largest empire in the history of man up until modern firearm took there place. The rolling block was the ak47 of the later half of the 19th century. They made more of them then any of the lever action guns made and they were used in most of the major Europeans conflicts of the later half of the 19th century in both small and large numbers. Honestly don't know much about Dutch Beaumont but still has more of a story then lever actions. Honestly the only lever action that could of easily changed history and sparked a revolution of military tech on the same scale scale as black powder and smokeless powder did would of been the adoption of the spencer rifle by the USA army.
Cool video! I got the vibe from the intro you were burring the definition of Curio and Relic with Antique. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought anything manufactured prior to 1899 was accepted as antique.
Ok, older post but. Please check your local gun laws. The information they give about antiques and blackpowder firearms is true in MOST states. There are several that consider them firearms. NJ is one of them. They consider BB guns to be firearms there.
So if I found a Lee Enfield made in 1915 I could get it shipped to me without an FFL because it's considered an antique? I thought it was only before 1899 in which that would apply?
there should be a company that remakes old guns, so say you have an og martini henry that's to old to shoot, buy a new one and shoot that. and make different versions that were used by different countrys BTW anyone in 2019
I have a Springfield trap door that came from a church color guard in Oklahoma it was sighted in at 400 yards I look it up an it was used by the Oklahoma National Guard nice shooter easy to reload
Good video guys. Ok 5 guns that won or lost wars. Or maybe 5 guns that were made famous or infamous by war (the M1 and AK come to mind) thanks keep it up!
Too be honest European military rifles interest me more at this point because I've been over exposed to US guns and would like to explore the different mechanics and doctrines behind european rifles.
More talk about the weapons less about the "for the purposes of this video" and tangents about nothing please. Highly interesting firearms prop themselves up without the added BS
As a Dutch guy it is hardly a guess wich one i think is the most interesting too me... Those Beamonts were still used by some ¨2nd line¨ and make shift units in 1940.
would you please do a physically handicapped gun owner video of some kind because I'm in a wheelchair and I think it would be cool to see what y'all come up with thanks and have a great day
The classification on Antique firearms in the UK is somewhat similar. You can have one delivered straight to your door without a license or any background checks as long as it's deemed to be chambered in an obsolete caliber, like the Shmidt rubin for example.
If im not mistaken i think the last rolling blocks went to the french in WW1 chambered in 8mm Lebel for rear echelon troops to have a good rifle freeing up bolt actions to go up to the front
Which one have done service in the army I think it would be cool if yous done a video about yourselfs I love your videos I'm from Ireland and you can only have 22. Over here
Interesting. Some of those are even legal within the UK without a licence falling under the antique with rare ammunition category. That said it is still illegal to own ammunition for them.
What ever you do do not take the Dutch Beaumont bolt apart you will not get it put together.that is why my Dutch Beaumont is at the gunsmith to get the bolt back together.
Im am Dutch and i never saw that (Beaumont) rifle before in my life...I find it very very interesting !! And for the 577 carbine...I have a Enfield 1870 snider reload mechanism...same as in this vid....in excellent condition! for 600 euros. latlely I also bought a 1908 Husqvarna .16 cal double barrel shotgun wich is also in a excellent state! Nise to see this vid come buy...I always like your vids...there is a lot of info in them...specialy the Dutch rifle wich i never even heared of. looking in to it! Thanks Big Big thumps up for this vid! Beaumontgeweer..dutch name i just looked it up. :D
Few ideas:
- Top 5 guns with exotic/rare calibers
- Top 5 Sniper rifles
- Top 5 modern guns that will become a collector/antique
- Top 5 Assassins guns
- Top 5 "Muskets" (Black Powder rifles)
- Top 5 guns that should have never been released
whats an ass ass in gun
Huntzman that's for ass holes ;)
Biggus Mickus give this man a medal.
No, a gun you can trade for two asses (donkeys).
First 5 guns that will be banned under Hillary
you guys should do a video with forgotten weapons
Ian is a great guy and I agree that would be a ton of fun.
please make that happen
Yes that would be awesome
100% agree
Do it! if you do pls include a polish firearm. it'd be nice to see a forgetten weapon of the poles
You guys are slowly turning me into a gun nut.
good
same
please do a top 5 guns with the best story behind them!
That'd be a cool one!
They could collaborate with Ian from Forgotten Weapons on that. It'd be awesome!
^^ Hell yes we need to make this happen. Off to FW right now....
Great idea!!!
there are a lot of amazing stories to read lol
If you get 250 views in 5 minutes your doing something right!
365 now ~4mins
Especially at 9am
Ain't that the truth!
+The Tactical Texan absolutely
Well, FouseyTube does that, and he's pretty fucked up.
Hey, I cant seem to find your reloading series on the Martini-Henry cartridge. Where can I find that?
I smiled when I saw the Schmidt Ruben that was my first rifle I owned back in 1971. I bought it for $25 at a police auction. Two things you will never see again.
The Henry company now is not the same as the one that made Henry rifles in the 1800s.
Thank you captain obvious.
To be considered antique it has to be made PRE 1899 if you got a gun manufactured December 31 1898 it's an antique and doesn't need paperwork if you have the same exact gun manufactured the next day it has to have a back ground for purchase and by the ATF definition is an antique firearm
Can you chop down the barrel and stock of a pre 1899 antique? Would an 1897 'potato digger’ machine gun count as an antique since it was made before 1899?
@@crazysilly2914 yes. No because it’s a machine gun still an antique but still has to be registered as an nfa item
@@rednecksniper4715 So there is an exception to the pre-1898 ‘antique’ law for machine guns? But as long as it is not full-auto, it is an antique?
the ATF definition specificaly states that it does not matter if it is or is not a replica.
@@rednecksniper4715all antique firearms are exempt from NFA regulations. if it is not by deffiniton an antique firearm (modern mechanism that allow conventional ammo to be used) then it is subject.
The Beaumont was a single shot designed and manufactured in 1871 BUT was converted in 1888 to take the Vitali 4 round box magazine so It's more accurate to say its late 1880's tech not early 1870's tech.
I had a dream where I was captain of the royal guard for a monarch and the weapons issued to the guard were ridiculously powerful bolt action rifles and being captain of the royal guard I got a very beautiful rifle that was all black with golden vines and golden leaves leading towards the front of the barrel
I'd love to get myself a Dutch Beaumont over the trapdoor. Then again, I am of Dutch heritage. Darn it, watching these guys is expensive. I already bought and restored a Martini Henry after their video on the subject, let alone some of the modern stuff. (With that said, keep it going guys.)
Didn't they make some martini - henry rifles in .303 brit? I think they were mk3 or mk4. Might be easier to get ammo for those and load it light.
they do the best 5 guns reviews on youtube
dont forget TFB TV
+Χαρης Μπαλατσουκας yes I enjoy theirs as well
They shamelessly ripped off the idea from this channel.
Yes they did and they know it...lol
+Iraqveteran8888 Thats the sad part of youtube lol. Everyone steals ideas and says they are their own..
One of my buddies bought a Martini Henry recently. He's reloading his own ammo for it and having a blast with it (no pun intended).
So excited for rare mosins. I've got 7 rare mosins that of course I paid way less than what they're actually worth because the sellers didn't know the markings or history of them... $50 for an original 1891 dragoon Cossack for example
God Bless everyone!!!! Jesus Loves you all very much!!!!
hail satan. you repsect my religion like how i repsect yours... right?
You're just teasing us with that Mag 7 on the wall, aren't ya?
Yes...🦄
Wanted, to ask the same thing while searching the channel for a MAG - 7 review.... i couldnt find one ..
Ian at forgotten weapons has a video where he looks at it, and shoots a round or two. Not really a review though.
The French had rolling blocks made for rear echelon troops in WWI :D
if you live in commonwealth countries like New Zealand you can get 303 Martini Henry for around $300-600 NZD
the Martini rifel was used in the Zulu war
Rifle*
yeah, and the men that used martini henry died with a zulu spear in his chest
Ever seen the film Zulu? LOL
Lots more zulus died with the Empire's lead in their chest.
+user12345 yeh Michael kane
Should've included a Winchester for the "wild card slot" because they are the premier antique (all models would work).
No Gew 1888? That's a pretty important firearm and you can still shoot them pretty easily.
An unmentioned factor driving the cost of the Trapdoor up is finding one that hasn't been bubba'd at some point in its life is fairly difficult.
Great video y'all! Love the idea of starting an antique gun collection!
Can you do a top 5 "top 5 videos"? You have so many i dont know which way ones are best.
What I find interesting is that the 1921 Thompson sub-machine Gun is now over a Century old.
Does the ATF have an opinion on that?
How about top 5 lever action rifles?
Is it just me or did the ATF just redefine what an antique gun is?
I had always heard and was always of the belief that if a gun was a muzzleloader, cap and ball revolver or if a gun was made before 1898 (and is not a machine gun) it was considered an antique and NFA rules don't apply.
For instance if you bought an 1873 trapdoor in 45-70 it usually gets shipped straight to your door.
However when I looked this up on the ATFs website today this is what I found.
Firearms Verification
National Firearms Act Definitions
Antique Firearm
26 U.S.C. § 5845(G)
"For the purposes of the National Firearms Act, the term “Antique Firearms” means any firearm
*NOT INTENDED OR REDESIGNED FOR USING RIM FIRE OR CONVENTIONAL CENTER FIRE IGNITION WITH FIXED AMMUNITION AND MANUFACTURED IN OR BEFORE 1898*
(including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap or similar type of ignition system or replica thereof, whether actually manufactured before or after the year 1898) and also any firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade."
So does this mean that since my 159 year old 1862 S&W Model 1 is chambered in 22 short and 22 short is still manufactured in the U.S and is available on the consumer market it's now considered a modern Firearm and is no longer an antique?
How about this:
Top 5 Weapons that video games popularized
1. AK-47
1. AK-47 (but what didn't popularize it?)
2. Desert Eagle
3. Barrett M82
4. M1 Garand
5. M134 Minigun (and contemporaries)
Of course like +The Red Rifleman said, Hollywood also had a hand in popularizing all 5 of those weapons
That video games made more expensive than they should be?
Preban Uzi's
Colt Pythons
WWII era 1911's
SVD Dragunov rifles
Styer AUG A1's
1) AK-47
2) M1 Garand
3) M82A1
4) Desert Eagle
5) M1911
Moka_Akashiya85 moka? Why are you on a gun video? And
1 m1 grande
2 mauser c96
3 desert egale
4 ak 47
5 psg 1
I know this is a late comment, but a Finnish mosin nagant is a perfect antique if you can find one with a receiver made in the correct timeline
5 guns, best long range rifles
My favorite will definitely be the Swedish mauser M96, in caliber 6.5x55. Exceptional Swedish quality, and in a caliber that if any ammo has passed the test of time, and is still going strong! The Swedish mausers is also known for their absolutely amazing precision, even after 120+ years! And they are strong enough to cope with modern ammo. My choice for sure :-) Even though I am from Denmark ;-)
Thank you for all your interesting videos! Just to define what is "antique"...in Italy our law defines antique a weapon built before of 1890.
I just picked up a Swiss 1889. Looking forward to working up a load for it this fall.
It's actually 'PRE' 1899. So if it was made after January 1st, 1899 it is still regulated as a firearm.
I was just looking at old lee enfields
Y'alls antique videos are great!!!! I would like to see a video on the snider and what about a bolt conversion reloading video on the Swiss Vetterli?
Marlin 1895, the Winchester 92, Arisaka 38, Mannlicher 1886, Mausers, etc.
What shortcoming are they talking about the rifles.... They were the best in their time ..
C'mon just think of it, who the fvck will rob a bank with a fvcking flintlock
Five east Asian firearms would be interesting. Also about the mosins I would think people are trying to take advantage of prepper type individuals. The mosin is almost the fall back rifle when everyone says if you need a firearm that is solid but not a lot of money buy a mosin. People stock up on mosins. Others take advantage of that. Just a thought.
I loved the video guys. Great picks. I want one of all of them. My wish list just keeps growing every time you guys put out a milsurp/antique video. You're going to make me go broke.
Subscribed! Keep up the good work, Eric, Chad, and crew! Any word on a new gun tour video?
Thanks for the vid. I'll stick witl argentina and swedish antiques , just my 2 cents.
Is It just me or is the Audio clipping a little bit. Anyways, great and entertaining content as always. Cheers!
I own a Swedish Remington 1873 Carbine. Sadly it was welded when my Grandpa died
bahahah I love Chads shirt I need one of them!
I cant believe you guys haven't done this top 5 before lol. Anyways keep the great videos coming!
That Portuguese rifle looks remarkably like a modified swedish husqvarna rifle or musket. For a second there i thought i was looking at a modified m/1845.
İ have cz special poldi elektro 65 years old
Really great video guys, one of my fave Top 5's, thanks!
love the old guns man! great video. I can't wait to see the video about the mosins. !
I know this is old thread, but I have a Beaumont, but not like the one you talked about. Mine is short, almost like a Carbine, with a metal curved butt plate. Date shows 1885. No impression on the side of the stock. Rough Shape though, missing the site.
France used the Remington rolling block too. Chambered in 8mm Lebel.
Great video! Could you do a video on your top 5 favorite hunting rifles?
I load cast, powder coated rounds for my Swiss rifles in 7.5x55. I have two 1889's and I can use the same cast loads I use in the other rifles as long as I don't use the K31 specific sizing die. I don't have to trim the brass any differently than I do for the other rifles. It works perfectly. The loads are light enough already that they are completely safe in the 1889.
So, if you're already loading for the other Swiss rifles and using mild cast loads, chances are they will chamber fine and be safe in the 1889.
I also reload my GP-11 brass, I just made a setup to hydraulically decap them using a shank from a very long bolt. I got one just slightly larger than the neck diameter and "turned it down" with sandpaper while it was chucked in a drill until it fit snug in the neck of the brass. I fill the case with water and give it a smack...primer comes right out. You can also use some kind of a homemade tool like a nail punch, hold the brass in the sizing die upside-down in your press, and smack the punch into the primer at an angle and pry it right out.
It's really easy brass to deprime, unlike some of the other military brass that has very stubborn primers.
Do any of the accept Glock mags?
4:55 most 1889's take the 7.5x55 cartridge just fine. it's true they cant take the pressure but they most certainly will chamber them more often than not.
If it has a frame or receiver and chambers a centerfire cartridge or rimfire (.22 LR) cartridge that is readily available i.e. .45-70, .45 LC, etc. it is NOT an antique. Must go through an FFL. I don't know why so many people do not understand this regulation. Doesn't matter when it was made if it falls into the above category. A Colt P model 1873 made in 1873 will kill someone just as readily as a new made replica. That's ATFE's point in all this. If you have a felony conviction on your record and bought a percussion revolver, you are in violation as it is a firearm. If you have a percussion revolver and the conversion cylinder to convert that revolver to centerfire, it must go through an FFL if you sell the revolver and cylinder together or offer for sale together. A Gatling Gun is not a machine gun as the firing pin must be released for each shot by means of a mechanical motion of a crank or electric motor. There are many devices that allow very fast firing in the realm of machine guns, but they are employing a single release function that is by definition semi-auto.
>Five guns videos
>Six guns on table
You guys aren't even trying anymore, either keep the 6th gun a "secret" make it a 6 gun video
P1853 Enfield beats all of em'.
I've got a antique, unfired, Finnish Mosin M39 from 1942! How you may ask? The receiver is from 1897!
Ohhhhhh no...chad is starting to get that 1000 yard stare again. Hopefully you will be able to get some sleep again soon buddy haha
my list ,,,1970 vintage my Dad paid in 1970 at a sporting store in Anchorage Alaska 375.00 Browning High Power 9mm made in Belgium 14 down 1up a BEAUTY .Then the springfield M1GRAND , my Dad and I restored and have gone out for years and shot with all kinds of ammo to play with from ap ,tracers,110gr,and our favorite 168 match,with my Dad saying i flinched into it with a paper plate group off hand slinged at 800YARDS (with our range finder )
The Peabody design made by Providence Tool co. is the ORIGINAL Martini. Swiss jerk named Martini didn't mind patent infringement. The rifle won the military trial in late 1860's but the Trapdoor was adopted even though it came in 3rd.
Mine is a Massachusetts militia rifle in .43 Spanish with the rack tag. I also have a patent infringement Martini Henery. Peabody in .43 Spanish was much more accurate.
the one exception to the "antique" rule is NJ -- they have reclassified anything that essentially can injure someone by any means of moving a projectile a "gun" TO INCLUDE black powder and guns older than 1898 -- so you still need the FPID (FOID orhwatever you wish to call it).
I've got 4 of the real classics of all time that I treasure
1. 1877 Martini-Henry MK II
2. 1883 Springfield Trapdoor
3. 1893 Mauser 7mm
4. 1898 Krag Jorgenson
And my next addition soon will be a 1885 Remington-Lee in 45-70
When did you guys buy a MKI Martini? Last time I checked you only had a MKIV...this one looks great too!
When I first bought a gun I got a mosin 91/30 for $400.... got ripped off without really knowing at a gun shop in buffalo, NY. The salesperson wouldn't even knock off $20..... They put a bad name on the industry
Nice guns, but... They're hard to find, cost $400-700 each, chambered in obsolete and expensive ammo? Makes you wonder why 98% of Americans would rather buy an old pawn shop Marlin or Remington....
I believe the definition of an antique firearm, should be changed to any firearms thats 25 years old, or older.
Regardless of the type of ammunition it shoots or the action it has.
Mostly because it doesn't make sense that a antique firearm has to be over a hundred years old, but we have firearms from WW2 and the cold war; in museums right now.
Are we to believe those arms aren't antiques?
Time is constantly moving forward and so should our laws.
My personal view on the "cowboy guns" is they lack the story and history that the ones you had on the video. The trapdoor, snider, martini Henry, rolling block, and the Dutch Beaumont (spelling?) all have such a better history. It was the trapdoor that ultimate opened up the west and for better or worse defeated all the native tribes that rose up in defiance to the federal gov after the civil war. The snider and martini Henry helped the British maintain and expand there empire which was the largest empire in the history of man up until modern firearm took there place. The rolling block was the ak47 of the later half of the 19th century. They made more of them then any of the lever action guns made and they were used in most of the major Europeans conflicts of the later half of the 19th century in both small and large numbers. Honestly don't know much about Dutch Beaumont but still has more of a story then lever actions. Honestly the only lever action that could of easily changed history and sparked a revolution of military tech on the same scale scale as black powder and smokeless powder did would of been the adoption of the spencer rifle by the USA army.
Cool video! I got the vibe from the intro you were burring the definition of Curio and Relic with Antique. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought anything manufactured prior to 1899 was accepted as antique.
Ok, older post but. Please check your local gun laws. The information they give about antiques and blackpowder firearms is true in MOST states. There are several that consider them firearms. NJ is one of them. They consider BB guns to be firearms there.
So if I found a Lee Enfield made in 1915 I could get it shipped to me without an FFL because it's considered an antique? I thought it was only before 1899 in which that would apply?
there should be a company that remakes old guns, so say you have an og martini henry that's to old to shoot, buy a new one and shoot that. and make different versions that were used by different countrys
BTW anyone in 2019
I have a Springfield trap door that came from a church color guard in Oklahoma it was sighted in at 400 yards I look it up an it was used by the Oklahoma National Guard nice shooter easy to reload
i like your shirts in the video
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Good video guys. Ok 5 guns that won or lost wars. Or maybe 5 guns that were made famous or infamous by war (the M1 and AK come to mind) thanks keep it up!
Too be honest European military rifles interest me more at this point because I've been over exposed to US guns and would like to explore the different mechanics and doctrines behind european rifles.
More talk about the weapons less about the "for the purposes of this video" and tangents about nothing please. Highly interesting firearms prop themselves up without the added BS
As a Dutch guy it is hardly a guess wich one i think is the most interesting too me... Those Beamonts were still used by some ¨2nd line¨ and make shift units in 1940.
Electors and I believe extractors are now being reproduced for the Dutch Beaumont Vitali. Jack's First is the company.
Do any of them take Glock mags?
My stupid ass could have gotten one of those 11x52 r rifles for 200 bucks but instead I bought a Remington 1903 for 800
would you please do a physically handicapped gun owner video of some kind because I'm in a wheelchair and I think it would be cool to see what y'all come up with thanks and have a great day
The classification on Antique firearms in the UK is somewhat similar. You can have one delivered straight to your door without a license or any background checks as long as it's deemed to be chambered in an obsolete caliber, like the Shmidt rubin for example.
If im not mistaken i think the last rolling blocks went to the french in WW1 chambered in 8mm Lebel for rear echelon troops to have a good rifle freeing up bolt actions to go up to the front
Which one have done service in the army I think it would be cool if yous done a video about yourselfs I love your videos I'm from Ireland and you can only have 22. Over here
Interesting. Some of those are even legal within the UK without a licence falling under the antique with rare ammunition category. That said it is still illegal to own ammunition for them.
A little story. Twenty years ago I had a chance to buy a Krag rifle for 250 bucks because the guy didn't know what he had.
I'm disappointed not seeing a Sharpe's rifle, it was literally the 1st American sniper rifle and is also 1 of the most collectable guns
Hey guys, I really like and enjoy your content! The only recommendation I have is stop talking over each other.
Thx
Man if the Caroleans had been armed with Rolling Blocks the entire continent would have been decimated by them, more so than they already were.
It's now Jan 2 2022. Go to IMA and you can pretty much double the prices mentioned in this video. Damn.
I'm so jealous I want to start restoring antique rifles but living in the UK I can't find anywhere that will important them
What about the Mosin M91/30? It's kinda like the M1903. over 100 year old gun. Just curious.
What ever you do do not take the Dutch Beaumont bolt apart you will not get it put together.that is why my Dutch Beaumont is at the gunsmith to get the bolt back together.
Im am Dutch and i never saw that (Beaumont) rifle before in my life...I find it very very interesting !! And for the 577 carbine...I have a Enfield 1870 snider reload mechanism...same as in this vid....in excellent condition! for 600 euros. latlely I also bought a 1908 Husqvarna .16 cal double barrel shotgun wich is also in a excellent state! Nise to see this vid come buy...I always like your vids...there is a lot of info in them...specialy the Dutch rifle wich i never even heared of. looking in to it! Thanks Big Big thumps up for this vid!
Beaumontgeweer..dutch name i just looked it up. :D