I have two of those; the Channellocks and the Craftsman. I was going to give the Craftsman set away to my wife's daughter (along with the matching longnose and dikes that came in the set). So I bought the Channellocks to replace them, and then decided I didn't want to part with my 1990s USA Craftsman pliers after all, and kept them. So now I have both. (I bought a Masterforce set to give to wife's daughter instead, so it's not like I welshed on a promise.) I did not know that Channellock bought the company that created the original design. Thanks for that info.
By looking at your hands, I would have guessed that all they've handled are powder puffs and marshmallows, but you are very knowledgeable and that only comes by experience. So I guess you're one of those guys that wear gloves for everything. Good video. Enjoyed it. I guess I have a very boring life!
Would that heavy duty wire crimper be suitable to crimp those ferrules made for looping the ends of wire rope? I think they are called ferrules. Its a piece of metal with two short length tubes you put the wire in one side then loop it around & back into the other tube. Crimp it down & makes a attachment loop for the wire rope. Not sure what kind of crimper I need.
It might work on the tiniest Of them but usually you need special extra heavy duty crimpers that look like bull cutters But what's the private jazz or you could buy a cheap pairable cutters and use a dremelnor die grinder to modify them
the knurling on the handles is not done by a roller. It is carved into the forging molds and doesn’t add any extra work in the manufacturing process. The reason it is no longer done is because more comfortable and grippy handles are now the industry standard. Bare metal is slippery, uncomfortable, and is conducive. It does look nice though.
Diamond was bought by Triangle in 1981 which was later bought by Cooper and later Apex. In 1983 Swanstrom started a pliers company in Superior Wisc which was the original founding family of Diamond and are still in business. Diamond are actually out of business as they closed the factory in Duluth in the early 90's since Apex owns Crescent and no longer needed Diamond. Recently the equine division was sold to a company in the Netherlands from Apex Tool Group and are making equine and shoeing tools under the Diamond name. They actually used to make adjustable wrenches and pliers for Snap On until they came out with Blue Point.
I have a pair of the Channellock tie wire pliers and they are ideal for their intended purpose. Tying of wire requires lots of repetitive motion and the spring is a blessing. The pair I have are over twenty-five years old and are going strong after tying miles of re-bar. Earthquake engineering here in California uses LOTS of re-bar. By the way, I believe that Channellock sold them as linesman pliers...
I have gone to the ratcheting crimpers also, but you can get them on amazon for under 40 $ that are good quality, just make sure you get one with a release lever. I've got 2 one straight and one with an angled head to get in tight places .
Ratcheting crimpers are excellent. And yes there is a quite a few to be had for a good deal. Even better is to find nice ones for Budget prices used... :)
I really enjoy your videos. The level of detail and range of the tools you have is impressive. I've got a lot of respect for your knowledge and perspective. Thank you, keep it up. Some affiliate links would be great, as I find myself seeking some of the tools you review so it'd be cool if you got some kickback on those purchases.
All of them, including the one in my bag, has convex handle which dig in to yr palm and make it uncomfortable to use. If there is anything to be fixed, fix the handle first.
that's cool you cleared that up cause even though me and you knew after that those channel lock linesman looking wire tying pliers maybe someone may have been slightly confused as to why only channel lock had a spring a smaller head and then end of the handle bent. Also know i was just giving constructive criticism not trying to say you are wrong i was curious if thry even had linesmans or if those served as those for channelock. You are very thorough in your descriptions and explanations of how the tools are used and I've discovered many new tools through your channel. Just know that you are helping with tool awareness. you have told me is part of your goal. You must have one hell of a toolbox or a lot of them haha. Thanks for making these , I kind of want to make some videos on some of my old and unique tools I have a lot of aircraft specific stuff some things I don't even know what they do or how they are used, a retired air force mechanic was throwing out a full toolbox and I asked if I could have it now it's mine and I use the Clecos (temporary rivets) for putting corner round on fire trucks at work. It has made me a more valuable guy at work cause I rarely need to ask for help. Just rambling haha sorry for the novel. Guess I'm just excited to tool talk with someone that seems to have the same enthusiasm for tools as I do! I hope you have plenty more tools and if not maybe even you could do like a demonstration of how to use odd tools for more content if you started to get near where you had already reviewed most groups of tools or individual more detailed reviews of some that are oddball ones. I love restoring old tools myself. Have you watched scoutcrafters vids he's got some cool old stuff. Anyway have a good one. Your fellow tool enthusiast, Pete sending a thanks from Florida!
Thanks for your comment, yes indeed I have lots of ideas for Content including tests and demonstrations, project videos, Etc There will be a few more tool review videos that's for sure then I will get into supplies and accessories because they are as much a tool as the tool themselves so there will be lots of content. One of the reasons I started this channel as to talk to people about tools as well because it seems to be rare these days to find tool aficionados or audiophiles which is another subject matter I'd like to explore on RUclips. I like other things as well and I started a channel called Catus Generalis for me to do reviews of other things that are not tool related so I don't frustrate my tool and project viewers with shoe reviews and such.
@@CatusMaximus I looked for your other channel I will definitely subscribe. And what do you mean by audio files? I'm intrigued and glad to hear about your future plans, you seem like a great guy and I have grown to just enjoy watching your reviews even if I probably don't need the tool, haha, and I promise I won't try to tell you how I Pronounce something potato potataaato right? Hah have a good one brother
I used to love my diamond pliers but they were worn out from years of hard surface and didn’t cut wire well anymore. They worked fine otherwise and I still keep them around in my truck
its a shame that those craftsman plies are made in china now the bulid quality on the chineses ones are unimpressive. If you see any of the all black handle ones they are the usa made ones
I’ve never really cared for slip joints. I’ve only found them useful for holding hot stuff. Cause you’re not going to turn nuts with them, unless they’re already damaged, they aren’t long enough to apply a whole lot of leverage. But they can be handy. If you need to pull wire through conduit or maybe crack a few walnuts.
I love those S & H with the 15-20º offset. I have a pair of heavy cutters like that, and for anyone who hasn’t tried such, they let you get right up against a bolt or fastener in wood, steel, or masonry. Even though I have some very nice general and linesman Pliers, I am often surprised by how often I reach for my slip-joints!
Yes indeed they are surprisingly useful having the 30 degree angle on them. And the handle textures are always nice but I'm sure these days without a significant amount of cost
Slip joint pliers are a bit limited... but with a few minutes work many can be vastly improved. For instance, many of their jaw tips aren't finished, and incapable of grabbing anything even close to flush. A few minutes with a file solves that cold. With others the pivot bolt it loose or sloppy... a careful adjustment and a drop of penetrating Loctite does wonders. Also, the cutting jaws can be touched up with a file as well. Probably the biggest improvement is correcting jaw tips[1]. Some nice slip joints are a pair of the huge Snap On 10" version... like the 49ACF. They won't see everyday use, but now & again are just the ticket. Be sitting down when you look their price; not for the feint of heart... however, they do show up on eBay a good bit. [1] Check the Vise Grips jaw tips while at it.
Yes and one of the big deals about ratcheting crimpers as they force you to get a proper amount of pressure. Most people don't realize that you actually have to crimp quite forcefully and most never do. It's surprising the poor quality mechanics that are performed on aircraft particularly small personal planes. Aircraft are to be maintained to "perfection" because you can't just "pull over" if there's a problem when you're in the air...
You must be thinking of Crescent which was purchased by Cooper tools, as far as I know Channellock is still owned by the Champion Dearment family. Btw with those Crescent pliers, that's called the chekerdot grip pattern.
I find that if you get to much slop between the jaws you can just tap the bolt or rivet with a hammer when you're holding it on a vise's anvil. But just take small taps and check. If you tap it once to often then you'll get the jaw too tight and there's no way to loosen them. You can always hammer more...it's impossible to remove hammering.
Slip joint nut rounders lol. I have so many of these things. Of all of them, I prefer the Channel locks, and the tongue and grooves, linesman, needlenose etc.
Catus Maximus I wasn't knocking your video Brother... just joking about them, I call them nut rounders, like I call a crescent wrench a crescent hammer, flathead screwdriver a disposable chisel or hammer a thumb detector lol. Just like any other tool, they have their place. I find I use these most when a large selection of tools aren't available and I need a backup wrench when a fastener is spinning and I need to hold the bolt head and turn the nut with a wrench or socket. There has been many a time I was glad to have some pliers, even the one on my multi-tool has saved the day many times
No offense taken whatsoever, I found your comment amusing because indeed it's so hard to get a good grip with these you just end up damaging things. The nice thing about them is under severely abusive situations they are a perfect option because you're not worried about breaking or damaging them.
Catus Maximus I do a lot of offroading, Jeeps, 4 wheelers and such. I actually made a field repair on a tie rod adjustment sleeve that broke with a pair of these pliers. I hooked 2 batteries together, took the pliers apart and welded (yes I actually carry a few 6011 welding rods in my toolkit lol) a half to each side of the sleeve allowing me to limp it back out of the woods
I see using the haves as struts interesting that they held up but not super surprising because they are a tool steel versus a mild alloyed steel for the tie rod. Even more surprising you were able to weld with 24 volts I would be especially surprised if you said it was 8th inch rod you used.
I just scored a pair of those craftsmans. I love everything about them but there a bit loose compared to my channellocks. Are yours the same or did I get a bad pair.
There are some cheaper models out there but yes generally speaking 50 to $100 or more for a professional-grade ratcheting crimper would be a normal price range
A comparison of neddle nose pliers would be cool
Love the handle patterns. Especially the s&h pliars. Work of art.
That's what I thought too. I have the others but I never saw the S&H before. They are sweet.
Thanks for the video! Have you looked at the 6 or 8 Wilde Slip Joint? :)
you now need to do a new video with the Knipex new slipjoint pliers
Great review. Ty. Hope that Stanley will being back Craftsman to be made in the USA. If so, I'll start purchasing them, again.
Indeed
I have two of those; the Channellocks and the Craftsman. I was going to give the Craftsman set away to my wife's daughter (along with the matching longnose and dikes that came in the set). So I bought the Channellocks to replace them, and then decided I didn't want to part with my 1990s USA Craftsman pliers after all, and kept them. So now I have both. (I bought a Masterforce set to give to wife's daughter instead, so it's not like I welshed on a promise.)
I did not know that Channellock bought the company that created the original design. Thanks for that info.
It’s funny what tools mean for people who don’t care about tools.
To us, every tool is unique.
I have the old k36 in my collection they seam to be getting rare over the years
By looking at your hands, I would have guessed that all they've handled are powder puffs and marshmallows, but you are very knowledgeable and that only comes by experience. So I guess you're one of those guys that wear gloves for everything. Good video. Enjoyed it. I guess I have a very boring life!
Would that heavy duty wire crimper be suitable to crimp those ferrules made for looping the ends of wire rope?
I think they are called ferrules. Its a piece of metal with two short length tubes you put the wire in one side then loop it around & back into the other tube. Crimp it down & makes a attachment loop for the wire rope. Not sure what kind of crimper I need.
It might work on the tiniest Of them but usually you need special extra heavy duty crimpers that look like bull cutters But what's the private jazz or you could buy a cheap pairable cutters and use a dremelnor die grinder to modify them
@@CatusMaximus what is the private jazz?
the knurling on the handles is not done by a roller. It is carved into the forging molds and doesn’t add any extra work in the manufacturing process. The reason it is no longer done is because more comfortable and grippy handles are now the industry standard. Bare metal is slippery, uncomfortable, and is conducive. It does look nice though.
Have many slip joint pliers, but my most favored is Craftsman 6"& 8" 🇺🇸 bought new over 40 years ago.
Awesome video! Right on point. No history, introduction, etc. Thanks
Diamond was bought by Triangle in 1981 which was later bought by Cooper and later Apex. In 1983 Swanstrom started a pliers company in Superior Wisc which was the original founding family of Diamond and are still in business. Diamond are actually out of business as they closed the factory in Duluth in the early 90's since Apex owns Crescent and no longer needed Diamond. Recently the equine division was sold to a company in the Netherlands from Apex Tool Group and are making equine and shoeing tools under the Diamond name. They actually used to make adjustable wrenches and pliers for Snap On until they came out with Blue Point.
Good post sir. Every so often we just need a regular pair of pliers
They're great to keep in a junk drawer or for abusive situations because they are so cheap and you're not worried about damaging them
I have a pair of the Channellock tie wire pliers and they are ideal for their intended purpose. Tying of wire requires lots of repetitive motion and the spring is a blessing. The pair I have are over twenty-five years old and are going strong after tying miles of re-bar. Earthquake engineering here in California uses LOTS of re-bar. By the way, I believe that Channellock sold them as linesman pliers...
Thank you for your comment especially the experience using these
I have gone to the ratcheting crimpers also, but you can get them on amazon for under 40 $ that are good quality, just make sure you get one with a release lever. I've got 2 one straight and one with an angled head to get in tight places .
Ratcheting crimpers are excellent. And yes there is a quite a few to be had for a good deal. Even better is to find nice ones for Budget prices used... :)
I really enjoy your videos. The level of detail and range of the tools you have is impressive. I've got a lot of respect for your knowledge and perspective. Thank you, keep it up. Some affiliate links would be great, as I find myself seeking some of the tools you review so it'd be cool if you got some kickback on those purchases.
All of them, including the one in my bag, has convex handle which dig in to yr palm and make it uncomfortable to use. If there is anything to be fixed, fix the handle first.
that's cool you cleared that up cause even though me and you knew after that those channel lock linesman looking wire tying pliers maybe someone may have been slightly confused as to why only channel lock had a spring a smaller head and then end of the handle bent. Also know i was just giving constructive criticism not trying to say you are wrong i was curious if thry even had linesmans or if those served as those for channelock. You are very thorough in your descriptions and explanations of how the tools are used and I've discovered many new tools through your channel. Just know that you are helping with tool awareness. you have told me is part of your goal. You must have one hell of a toolbox or a lot of them haha. Thanks for making these , I kind of want to make some videos on some of my old and unique tools I have a lot of aircraft specific stuff some things I don't even know what they do or how they are used, a retired air force mechanic was throwing out a full toolbox and I asked if I could have it now it's mine and I use the Clecos (temporary rivets) for putting corner round on fire trucks at work. It has made me a more valuable guy at work cause I rarely need to ask for help. Just rambling haha sorry for the novel. Guess I'm just excited to tool talk with someone that seems to have the same enthusiasm for tools as I do! I hope you have plenty more tools and if not maybe even you could do like a demonstration of how to use odd tools for more content if you started to get near where you had already reviewed most groups of tools or individual more detailed reviews of some that are oddball ones. I love restoring old tools myself. Have you watched scoutcrafters vids he's got some cool old stuff. Anyway have a good one. Your fellow tool enthusiast, Pete sending a thanks from Florida!
Thanks for your comment, yes indeed I have lots of ideas for Content including tests and demonstrations, project videos, Etc
There will be a few more tool review videos that's for sure then I will get into supplies and accessories because they are as much a tool as the tool themselves so there will be lots of content.
One of the reasons I started this channel as to talk to people about tools as well because it seems to be rare these days to find tool aficionados or audiophiles which is another subject matter I'd like to explore on RUclips.
I like other things as well and I started a channel called Catus Generalis for me to do reviews of other things that are not tool related so I don't frustrate my tool and project viewers with shoe reviews and such.
@@CatusMaximus I looked for your other channel I will definitely subscribe. And what do you mean by audio files? I'm intrigued and glad to hear about your future plans, you seem like a great guy and I have grown to just enjoy watching your reviews even if I probably don't need the tool, haha, and I promise I won't try to tell you how I Pronounce something potato potataaato right? Hah have a good one brother
Google Voice error, I meant audiophiles. People who are into the High Fidelity reproduction of sound.
I really like the design on the handles
I used to love my diamond pliers but they were worn out from years of hard surface and didn’t cut wire well anymore. They worked fine otherwise and I still keep them around in my truck
its a shame that those craftsman plies are made in china now the bulid quality on the chineses ones are unimpressive. If you see any of the all black handle ones they are the usa made ones
Agreed
Good info Scoobythedog. What is the color of the chinese handles?
I’ve never really cared for slip joints. I’ve only found them useful for holding hot stuff. Cause you’re not going to turn nuts with them, unless they’re already damaged, they aren’t long enough to apply a whole lot of leverage. But they can be handy. If you need to pull wire through conduit or maybe crack a few walnuts.
Yes the diamond Calk and Horseshoe company is who invented these and they really are the quintessential basic pliers
8" gives better grip quite usefully in that size
I like the pattern on the handles.
I love those S & H with the 15-20º offset. I have a pair of heavy cutters like that, and for anyone who hasn’t tried such, they let you get right up against a bolt or fastener in wood, steel, or masonry. Even though I have some very nice general and linesman Pliers, I am often surprised by how often I reach for my slip-joints!
They sound very useful the bent head cutters
Love those handles and the s & h pliers are made like that, i love bent pliers for getting close to things.
Yes indeed they are surprisingly useful having the 30 degree angle on them. And the handle textures are always nice but I'm sure these days without a significant amount of cost
Really great videos dude
Always learning thanks
Thanks
Slip joint pliers are a bit limited... but with a few minutes work many can be vastly improved. For instance, many of their jaw tips aren't finished, and incapable of grabbing anything even close to flush. A few minutes with a file solves that cold. With others the pivot bolt it loose or sloppy... a careful adjustment and a drop of penetrating Loctite does wonders. Also, the cutting jaws can be touched up with a file as well. Probably the biggest improvement is correcting jaw tips[1]. Some nice slip joints are a pair of the huge Snap On 10" version... like the 49ACF. They won't see everyday use, but now & again are just the ticket. Be sitting down when you look their price; not for the feint of heart... however, they do show up on eBay a good bit.
[1] Check the Vise Grips jaw tips while at it.
Ratcheting crimpers are great. Working on aircraft it pisses me off to see people use anything else. And most do.
Yes and one of the big deals about ratcheting crimpers as they force you to get a proper amount of pressure. Most people don't realize that you actually have to crimp quite forcefully and most never do. It's surprising the poor quality mechanics that are performed on aircraft particularly small personal planes. Aircraft are to be maintained to "perfection" because you can't just "pull over" if there's a problem when you're in the air...
@@CatusMaximus
Yeah, most don't on aircraft. Idiots!
You must be thinking of Crescent which was purchased by Cooper tools, as far as I know Channellock is still owned by the Champion Dearment family.
Btw with those Crescent pliers, that's called the chekerdot grip pattern.
Thank you for that clarification now we know Klein, channel lock & Lisle are still original private tool companies... they do still exist
@@CatusMaximus
I think Wilde may be as well.
And of course so is Vaughan & Bushnell mfg , but they of course do not produce pliers.
FYI - Channellock carries a lifetime warranty. $10.00
I find that if you get to much slop between the jaws you can just tap the bolt or rivet with a hammer when you're holding it on a vise's anvil. But just take small taps and check. If you tap it once to often then you'll get the jaw too tight and there's no way to loosen them. You can always hammer more...it's impossible to remove hammering.
Slip joint nut rounders lol. I have so many of these things. Of all of them, I prefer the Channel locks, and the tongue and grooves, linesman, needlenose etc.
Yes I hardly ever use this style pliers but being common they must be discussed... :)
Catus Maximus I wasn't knocking your video Brother... just joking about them, I call them nut rounders, like I call a crescent wrench a crescent hammer, flathead screwdriver a disposable chisel or hammer a thumb detector lol. Just like any other tool, they have their place. I find I use these most when a large selection of tools aren't available and I need a backup wrench when a fastener is spinning and I need to hold the bolt head and turn the nut with a wrench or socket. There has been many a time I was glad to have some pliers, even the one on my multi-tool has saved the day many times
No offense taken whatsoever, I found your comment amusing because indeed it's so hard to get a good grip with these you just end up damaging things. The nice thing about them is under severely abusive situations they are a perfect option because you're not worried about breaking or damaging them.
Catus Maximus I do a lot of offroading, Jeeps, 4 wheelers and such. I actually made a field repair on a tie rod adjustment sleeve that broke with a pair of these pliers. I hooked 2 batteries together, took the pliers apart and welded (yes I actually carry a few 6011 welding rods in my toolkit lol) a half to each side of the sleeve allowing me to limp it back out of the woods
I see using the haves as struts interesting that they held up but not super surprising because they are a tool steel versus a mild alloyed steel for the tie rod. Even more surprising you were able to weld with 24 volts I would be especially surprised if you said it was 8th inch rod you used.
If you could only have one length of slip joint plier what size would you choose? Closer to the 6” or closer to the 8” variety?
I just scored a pair of those craftsmans. I love everything about them but there a bit loose compared to my channellocks. Are yours the same or did I get a bad pair.
It's not that you're older, you're just stronger than you were in your twenties! That's why it hurts when you bear down with all your strength. haha
Are the ratcheting crimpers really 100 dollars
There are some cheaper models out there but yes generally speaking 50 to $100 or more for a professional-grade ratcheting crimper would be a normal price range
Some aerospace versions run very much more that $100.