Ultraplane - Rocket Passenger Plane
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- In the 1950's Walter Dornberger promoted a 2 stage rocket passenger plane concept he called Ultraplane. This would carry passengers anywhere in the world in a couple of hours using a rocket boosted skip-glide profile.
Originally broadcast live on twitch.tv/szyzyg
View the whole unedited stream here:
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17 minute flight. 8 hours in customs.
Adam Olsen amen
This is why I doubt elons 120 passenger rocket thing. What good is a short flight, even to the other side of the world, if you need to spend so much time in pre-post flight inspections.
As an upper class transport, with dedicated terminals, maybe they get expedited customs...
And, still faster than a 17h flight (plus customs) :)
4:30
So basically, you made a rocket shuttle and then pasted it onto a bigger rocket shuttle?
That's incredibly Kerbal.
No "Fly Safe" ??? I feel weirdly unfulfilled :(
so...Intercontinental ballistic aircraft?
Well we have CHECK YOUR STAGING
Now we have CHECK YOUR CREW....
Don't forget that old aeronautical adage: "nose heavy planes fly poorly, tail heavy planes fly once."
Being one of the two people who actively maintain B9 Aerospace I am very happy to see that the parts are back in your vids =)
What's best: Ultra, Mega or Hyper?
This is a serious question.
Stefan Klass well if we look at nova, it goes super nova then hyper nova. i would say hyper is the bottom of your list then mega then ultra. thats just my logic tho
Stefan Klass What of Uber?
Mega Ultra Chicken.
Well if we look at the etymology of the words, and how they are used today, Ultra historically meant at or surpassing some limit, while Hyper means above average or beyond a reasonable amount. Mega, in modern language, is a specific metric prefix equal to 10^6 in scientific notation. In the context of metric prefixes it's not even that big. Yotta, the largest metric prefix, is one billion times larger than Mega.
My conclusion is that if we consider the etymology (which might be a little unfair since for Mega we're kinda ignoring that), Ultra wins. It would probably win if we did look up what mega might have historically been used to mean (if it ever meant anything else) since it basically means "near or even greater than what we ever thought was possible".
The 2 stage design was initially one of the proposed space shuttle designs
2G is a bit extreme for a passenger aircraft is it not?
It sounds a lot but actually during take off on commercial aircrafts 2 G's are nearly reached. By the way if I remember correctly the Boeing 747 was designed to collapse only above 4.3 G's, which is little compared to KSP but still a lot for everyday flights that mostly don't include stunts😂
Id never have thought passengers on an airliner would experience that sort of force, obviously they will feel an acceleration as the plane takes off but I thought it would have only been 0.5G at most and it only feels like a lot because humans aren't used to acceleration in the horizontal sense.
Don't think "designed to collapse" is the best way to advertise these things, "designed to withstand forces up to" might be the less "holy shit" description here.
In a rollercoaster you get about 3g
@@problem5697 ISS has approx 1g, or the same you're feeling right now. you get G-forces when you gain/lose speed.
Hello Scott, the bush pilots always make a final turn across the slope when they land uphill in case the brakes fade. It is rather ignominious to see your vehicle run backward down the slope. However, this is a very fine skipper that you have here.
“He was also in the German military and all that stuff”
that second take off literally looks like the father of the space shuttle
seeing that I realize how amazing it would be if you did a entire realistic IVA mission with the A.S.E.T/ALCOR mods. maybe even principia just because
Rcs build aid is great for seeing where the dry center of mass is. Good for preventing your planes from being unstable in reentry
love the editing in this video! Also makes the stream watchable without the need to skip through 2 hours of raw footage :)
Nice bush pilot skills there at the end Scott!
Hey Scott, why don't you make a video about weird nazi jet/rocket airplanes but you try to do them in KSP with mods? Please read this😅
Leonardo Bonanno careful, he might get his video demonitized
this could actually happen. i know of someone who got demonitzed on a video where he interviews the devs of a new ww2 game ...
Well thats just idiotic! That idea would be cool to see!
Doesn't matter to him. He doesn't do RUclips for a living.
I think he would still do videos even with less pay but I'm sure he uses the money. SO it does matter, it just may not matter as much as it does to other RUclipsrs.
11:28 hey, that's pretty good
What's that wing mod???
that would be procedural wings
Once you're out of the skip glide, certainly doesn't have a lot of cross range. Or maybe that's just because you weren't prepared to have to turn around. Very interesting creation Scott.
+Robert Johnson needs a bit of refinement to be honest
Yes it certainly does. Also....AHHHHH YOU REPLIED :)))
[Outsider Looking In... Do not Shoot The Messenger]
This popped up on my RUclips recommendations, just after I watched the Film "Starflight One".. (and didn't watch it on the compy, so no cookies involved.
Hey scott what mod do you use for your wings? It looks much better then procedural wings
Anthony aasda B9Procedural parts/wings, I have 75 mods so I might be getting muddled. Get a program called CKAN! ONLY from the official site(not the criminal virus full websites and not the business application) It is the easy way to get mods for KSP. Be cautious when downloading things on the internet, read reviews and double check every factor. Be smart.
Its B9 procedural wings but unfortunately it hasnt been updated since 0.90
Yes Sir, Hiller Avation Museum in Oakland has quite a lot about the helicopter recovery system for the Saturn project. I live right down the road, been many times!
Dornberger Ultraplane has to be the best name to come out of the 50s experimental rocket ideas. It's like the Benedict Cumberbatch of rocket names.
So a peaceful use for the Silbervogel. I approve
Love that landing Scott. Was a beaut'!
What's that mod you're using at the beginning where you could modify the size, shape, and angle of the parts you were using? The one at 0:30 where you were changing the wings to fit and look how you wanted?
What is he using for the custom wings I really want some for fly planes then they might actually fly
When you RTLS after launching the glider, it would seem that you have expended most of your fuel load, so you could do it with maybe fewer of the engines relighting like the Falcon nines do.
Which mod do you use to Scale the Wings???
If you create a controlled stall you can land a spacecraft that is very large in the signs and Munch Munch Munch more smaller then you would need in the taking off so that means that you couldn't land a large large large spacecraft in the size of half what it took to take off or less if you complete it right
10:06 i think i found scott's next build project
us govt: "we need to do more things with rockets" Walter domberger: "Bet, hold my beer" "slap some wings and that bitch, boys".
For more stable flight, I can really recommend Boris-Barboris' AtmosphereAutopilot (Fly-By-Wire) mod, which flies a *lot* better than the standard SAS (and comes with AoA moderation to prevent you from accidentally flipping at altitude).
2:37 it is not in case of TOGA but go-around as TOGA stands for "Take_Off/Go Around" which is basically a full engine power setting found on A3xx planes...
The plane reminds me very much of the modern "SpaceLiner" concept from 2005, also from Germany, but now without Nazis and everything
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceLiner
What mod is the procedural wings from, and does it work in 1.2?
This video has been out for 2 years and there's only 70 dislikes
Making the earth look tiny one step at a time
Elon is reviving the rocket plane with the BFR. So many visionaries had it right, supersonic rocket plane travel is the best way to get around on Earth!
Which mods do you use that give you all those cool parts and where do you find them?
What mods do you use to make Kerbin and space look better than stock?
Hey scot, what is the visual mod for ur planets? I can't find a good one that works
hey scott can you talk about vector space systems launch they did a couple of days ago
hey scott if you press F2 everything on screen goes away for screenshots
what mod is allowing you to change the wing dimensions ?
Scott did you know that one of the loading screen hints is "Flying safe"???
Hey Scott, what mod do you use for the clouds on Kerbin and the sun lens flares?
how did you make the adjustable landing gear mod work in 1.2?
Also for resizing the winglets what did he use?
o no, i am haveing flash backs to ksasb seris.
1950's - of the year 1950. 1950s - of the decade 1950 to 1959.
Which software your used here please tell me
What mod did you use for the editable wings?
Can you give the mod list you are using for this?
Great video!
is there a mode which uses metallic hydrogen .. and if not ... would it be easy to create ?
Don't think so, but I'm sure that it wouldn't be too difficult.
Far Future Technologies
1933 design philosophy with 1966 hardware... BAM-ZOOM!
Anyone know what that adjustable wing mod is?
Procedural parts, should be on ckan my friend.
Thanks a lot!
it could also be "B9 procedural wings" '(its been a long night on eve)
ah ok ill check it out thanks for the info. been looking for a procedural parts mod for a while now
also check out "Tweakscale" it allows you to resize most modules :)
Very interesting, Scott!
Hey Scott, just found a system u discovered in elite dangerous:) synuefai DC-y b20-1
When manipulating the control surfaces while the craft is encountering friction from the atmosphere they will react to some extent.
You know you can remove the trailing edge from the B9 wings?
Can someone tell me what is RTLS
Will you have a mod/addons list coming out ?
Nice flying therrr Tex ;-)
Hey Scott, what mods did you use during this video those wings looked great!
What graphical mods do you use?
What mod is he using for the wings?
Im related to Walter Dornberger holy crap :D
Wait, wait, wait... How do you have the mod adjustable landing gear working?!?!
Looks like something Rabbaz would build
could you do a rocket sled on inclined plane launch?
Hey that's pretty good
hey, that's pretty dead
Hey, that's pretty not dead... just go away watching your stupid Shooting Stars videos.
what mods are you using
Looks like a shuttle concept.
Youch, saw them rear landing legs turning, kek.
Hey Scott, I saw you on that podcast/interview thing but I had no idea what it was about (I didn't watch it)
11:28 ey thats pretty good
Is this what Heinlein meant when he wrote about "Seminallistics"?
the piggyback idea is kinda of an interesting idea. you could have them both have a decent size passenger compartments and have the carrier do short distance flightpaths and have the one that's being carried do long distance flights. you would have to have a decent infrastructure set up all over the world to support this. I like the idea. The one good thing about the Nazis is they were good at building rockets, but really, how much creativity could have been stifled by that totalitarian regime that wouldn't have been stifled had it been a free country like America. A lot of brilliant people left Germany to go to allied nations during the war, and alot of brilliant people were killed in concentration camps. We will never know what some of those people lost in the war could of produced. of course the need for all this creativity was spurred on by the war, if the war hadnt happen we might still be flying rotory aircraft now.
what mods are you using? this looks amazing.
I missed this video :)
What is your intro theme? Thanks!
@Scott Manley love your channel mate, but need a correction at 9:20 They're not Ailerons, they're Elevons...and shortly after that was an aerodynamic stall not a yaw effect.🖖✌
They should be elevons, but they aren't. He had them set as pure Ailerons. It also wasn't a stall. Stall behaviour at supersonic speeds is very different, because most of the lift is coming from the bottom of the wing, and even if it wasn't we can see from the navball that AoA is not high enough anyway. Read up on the SR71 accidents to hear about something similar. When one of the engines suffered an unstart it would yaw the aircraft, and bank it in a similar fashion. It would also cause the aircraft to pitch up, and cause G forces to exceed the limits of the aircraft. That kind of yaw roll coupling is typical at high mach numbers.
What's a "Toga"?
What no love for the Black Horse?
And what's that the
tweakable wing mod called?
Alpha Adhito B9 procedural wings
Pretty sure it's B9
What's that mod that makes everything look beautiful?
Jason Mach Ok, thanks
what mods is he using?
what mod is that? :)
"...instead of blaming innocent people for their problems..." I see people in the comments kind of lost
Wlltrr Drrnbrrgrr and Wrrnhrr vrrn Brrrn and Yew-geen Sang-ger is EXACTLY how those German names are pronounced. Yes. Exactly.
amazing landing o.o
I think Dornberger was just Army.
Please make a video on the Cassini Grand Finale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Concorde???
nice video my guy!
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