His PC Isn't Selling. Let's Help!
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2020
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"PC was only used by an old lady, and only on Sundays, right before Church"
That really is the vibe that statement gives off. It's pure used car salesman and definitely puts me on my guard.
She probably used it to play DOOM... showing demons who's boss in game before showing demons who's boss IRL.
Can't help imagine that the old lady use PC for watching Pornhub.
Really, I don't get why people never forget to mention that "it's never been overclocked".
I mean, it's not that everybody uses LN2 and insane voltages.
All PCs I've sold are advertised as OC'd and I've had no problems so far.
Old lady is selling Pc because her grandson team killed her and tabagged her, Things got biblical at church after that, THALL SHALL NOT TEABAG GRANNY BEFORE 9AM
When Greg compares it to a car, I too hate when I see people write: "Driven by an old lady or old man". Very good video helping that guy out
"Never launched, never floored, always premium gas, waxed daily, washed hourly, only driven in a garage, never seen sunlight."
Greg Salazar All the time 🤣
"Driven by grandma, only from home to the store, the cane is still in the trunk"
@@Nedrozak And for a diesel car, that's usually pretty bad.
@@jon123tpv Yep! Where I live, most of the cars are diesel and are mainly driven in the city.
When you said Skylake was 5 years old... I shuddered... Right about when I start to get into PCs in the first place :)
Crazy how fast that time went.
Holy shit yeah, me too. I had an FX 6300 back then, and I've already done two upgrades since 😶 I remember not even knowing what the 'K' at the end meant for Intel processors
Same my old rig had an i7 6700k and gtx 1060 pretty close to the pc show in the video
I still have my haswell 4770k! Might upgrade this year though.
Me too. Late 2014. Now I'm running a laptop from 2013. Doesn't play everything at high details, but the dual gt 750m gpus and i5 4200m play Forza horizon 4 just fine in my minimal space for hardware.
Soon as someone writes things like "never overclocked" or "lightly gamed on", most peoples first impression is they are lying, and I'll usually move straight on to the next ad.
Good point. Though I doubt he's actually lying in this case, it does seem odd that he'd go out of his way to state this.
What if I write"maintenance and cleaning every six months"?
@@GregSalazar hey uhh I have a i5 7400 and no reason to update it, I got a gtx 1080 the ram the PSU the everything, I don't however have a mobo, while yes my asus h110m-r will work I want to 1 have upgradability, and 2 have a nice looking pc and will need a ATX case instead of a micro ATX, while where here any recommendations for good international shoppers for pc parts? I don't want to pay 210$ for a nzxt h500 since Israeli prices are crazy, I
@@ojoface208 hi, you should probably start by getting a x570 motherboard, I know you said you have no reason to upgrade your cpu but long term ryzen boards are your best bet for upgradability down the line. Get a new ryzen cpu not necessarily a r7 3700x or higher, an r5 3600 or even an older r7 2700x, r5 2600x should be good, as for the case I personally have a cooler master mb530p "full atx" but there are cheaper version if costs are a concern, hopefully this can somewhat help you
@@DualPerformance that might not be bad
I would love to see this turn into a separate series. I love seeing you tear apart ridiculous ads. This helping people sell PC's is awesome as well
I really like this different approach man. It's refreshing
At least its clean. Can't say how many pc builds I have seen for sale that are loaded with dust bunnies they want to charge a thousand dollars for.
right? literally hit it with a can of 6 dollar canned air inside and out and wipe thee outside.... with paper towel lol
nah, its still not worth it though, like the money the parts costs is less then his "used" PC for sale price, and it actually looks garbage, for some reason i hate the fans above and the whole aesthetic . I've seen horrible deals online, like 1080 ti i7 builds for like 3k, not even kidding but they can actually rip off children who no nothing bout PC's.
@Mannie Illescas I deep clean mine about once a month, though to be honest you can probably go a year or so and it will be fine. Just watch your temps.
EVERYONE knows adding RGB will give you a 10% increase in speed. LOL
How about if I download another 16gigs of RAM off www.DownloadFreeRam.com ? They say it gives 25% increase
@@elghailanireda881 bloody hell
It’ll also increase your cooling potential by 25%!
Scientists have proven it adds upto an 25% fps increase in crysis
No, 10% increase in price!
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MASTER RACE GAMING PC !
PHENOMENAL OVERCLOCKED RGB+!
ULTRA COMBO TRIPLE CHANNEL RAM! RGB
6.5 GHZ THERMAL PASTE! RGB
COOLER: FREIZA RGB
Storage: SSD WD BLACKED RAW EDITION BBC
POwer Supply LEvel: ITS OVER 9000!
Fatherboard: SSGSS Ultra Instinct
Included: Swiss Army Knife
This MASTER RACE PEW PEW PEW was assembled with CONFIDENCE.
Where can I buy this? I must have it.
@@josophie5002 I saw it first. This ad had me at "assembled with Confidence"
😂😂😂nice combination of dragon ball, that epic build sponsored by capital one and sprinkle with a bit of Star Wars?🤔👏👏👏👏
BBC... Big black 🐓?
BLACKED BBC 3 SOME FORTNITE GAMING PC
Thanks Greg! You've help me sell a few PCs already.
Glad I could help!
Great that you're helping out Greg! :D
I bought your pc :)
Some really great advice you won't find easily elsewhere. Makes the rest of the series more relate able.
Thank you!
This is a nice change of pace. I like that you are willing to help someone out that is trying to actually sell their pc for a decent price and wanting to do it right.
Thank you for helping out. This is why you’re tied for my favorite tech youtuber!
Great video. I love seeing a more positive spin on the Craigslist stuff, especially since I had trouble selling my old rig on there.
I would try alternatives, like FaceBook marketplace if on the site, or apps like LetGo or Offer Up are amazing and simple to use alongside Craig's List. The apps also allow feedback so you can build trust is constantly selling items.
This is a great change of pace. Lots of great feedback provided here!
The one time I've really had a difference when mentioning OCing is when I sold my 6600K. I hit 4.9 stable under 1.4V, so I included that since that's a damn good bin and I knew ppl would like that (which they did, I had no issues selling)
This is my favorite series from you. I always watch them fully.
I sell mostly on Facebook marketplace and EVERYONE offers lower then listed. I typically list higher just so when someone offers lower it more in line with what I was wanting and the person thinks they are getting a deal
Valid tactic. But if your price is so far off that noone will even ask, it probably hurts you more. Have to be reasonable with the overshooting
Yeah, I'd personally go $750, expecting $650-700 offers so people feel like they're getting a deal but you end up where you expect.
Congrats on *500k* subs Greg - keep it strong, u awesome, stay awesome! :)
Thanks for helping this guy.
Thank you Greg for caring for the community
Hey Greg! Really like this new idea you're implementing. Great way to get some new and fun content!
Glad you're enjoying it!
Nice way to add some variety to this series of videos, looking forward to seeing you mix more of these videos in.
Frankly I think it would be worth it stripping the 6700, motherboard, and 1070 out and selling them on their own. Things like the powersupply, cooling, case, ram, and storage are still good and more cost effective to keep than sell. A good upgrade would be a 2700x/3600, MSI B450i, and maybe a 1650 super or 2060 or 5600 xt for a bigger budget. Thing is there is no reason someone would trade a better machine for a 5 year old one and selling the good parts sets you back when you buy them again.
Looking forward to future videos!
Wow one minute in and I’m already feeling like Greg has my back.
I enjoy these videos Greg. My used pc market in my area is ridiculously overpriced. You would never run out of content ideas here.
Built my first PC on Skylake and Pascal (nabbed a 1060 on launch day). Crazy to think how outdated my i5 has become in 4 years compared to how relevant 3rd gen chips (4 years old then) were at the time.
*Greg* I really enjoyed this video. I'd appreciate if you produced more like this. Thank you.
The more positive spin on these videos is refreshing to see.
Great Video ! I Think folks seam to have forgot that their is a big difference between making a good profit and just flat out greed and just trying to screw over some one ! i think a lot of business are probably the worst ones ! So glad you are calling them out on the bullshit Thank You!
GREAT VIDEO!!! I love this idea of helping the community, like this! It’s accomplishing your same goal, helping the gaming community from novice first time builders to seasoned PC sellers! You’ve got my follow!
I wanted to add some information that I look for too. I totally get where you, Greg, are coming from, in regards to his mention of “not overclocked”. As someone mostly purchasing used parts to either flip them or repair another clients machine wouldn’t care if this was overclocked, but as a general consumer I do actually find it necessary. Saying “light gaming” is pointless though lol There’s no real benchmark for “low mileage” like a car haha IT’S USED, that’s the point? Lightly used or not it shouldn’t make a real difference, we are paying for a used product. I can tell you though, were this priced correctly and this was put up against another machine that WAS overclocked(with as similar specs as possible too), I would choose the machine NOT overclocked ANYDAY! I guess it would kind of matter how the ad was written too, I can tell a novice(this ad/machine) from a reseller or OEM resale. Some random person pumping the machine with more power than recommended, not to mention the different profiles they may have ran through to get it stable, is just what my brain starts thinking. Real or not lol and to that, it just isn’t something I would spend my money on. To me THAT is ALMOST a “low mileage” benchmark. It totally varies for me, but to just say it doesn’t matter, well I would disagree. I think the way its written in this ad, however, is totally null and almost wouldn’t give me confidence either, when you don’t know you have a SATA drive over an NVME drive that just makes me question what else he did wrong lol.
In short, I would take a machine not overclocked, over the same machine that has been overclocked just about every time..... ESPECIALLY if there was ANY price difference(minus it being cheaper lol)......
In my experience, mentioning a system has never been overclocked always helps. It gives people a little more trust in the parts lasting long. Even though you cannot overclock in the first place (people generally don't even know that). It has to be said that I only sell PC and combos of relatively old platforms, Intel 775/1156/1155 and AMD AM3/AM3+ era
I got my first PC used off the Facebook Marketplace that had close to these specs. I7 6700K, GTX 1070, 16GB ram at base clock DDR4, 250GB SSD , 2TB HDD, and an AIO cooler for just $500.The motherboard has RGB as well as the RAM and GPU. I believe the motherboard is a Z2970 E or something like that. The guy also threw in a 60hz HP IPS monitor too. Can't beat that honestly. This video made me think of my first PC purchase.
Great video. Enjoyed the new positive angle on used pc sale
Thanks, Peter!
this actually look like a good series of videos
Nice video. Looking forward to seeing the follow up.
He should start fresh cause it been up for almost 3 weeks and the things you said. Great video ❤️
Oh snap I may have to ask for your help sir. Good work here. Thank you.
What are you selling and how much for? I’m looking to build but I’m thinking I can buy a prebuilt too save myself a lot of time finding and importing parts in this coronavirus time.
Let's see more of these!
I think some of the redundant pics were to show the fans change color. Maybe make a collage to present several colors in one pic space.
I like the video. I may have to send you my ad for advice
I really liked this video. I wouldn't mind seeing more of these videos.
Thank for the tips
Interesting didn't think I'd see someone come asking for help
Just used your promo code for the windows 10 pro, thanks man i needed one after my build hahah
I like this. As much as I love the roasts, I really like this constructive criticism. This is probably a much better learning guide for anyone who's inexperienced with selling.
The problem i have with Ebay in Oz is most of the time the second hand computer parts are usually higher than they were new....
Just gotta say, finally got rid of that annoying water mark, the gsl code worked !
Yay love these kinds of videos.
You should mention that if you use a phone camera, to wipe off the lens with your shirt first. So many people take cloudy pictures of everything, while yours were clearly (pun?) taken with a clean lens.
and make sure you edit out your thumb from the picture
Awesome video Greg! Lots of great points about why he adjusted the prices. Also outve curiosity don’t most digital sellers (steam/epic store ) frown upon selling your accounts/games?
It's often in the ToS. They either won't let ya sell games tied to specific accounts _or_ entire accounts with pre-purchased games.
This pc is very close to my original dream pc, similar case in black, same rgb, i7 6700k, and GTX 1080
Good sensible video, Thumbs UP.
4:26 I usually see only 8gb ram kits for that much. For 16gb kits they usually go for 60-100 bucks usd.
Greg,
I have bought and sold many Gaming PCs in the last 7 years, and one thing that i have found that really helps sell, is to include even just a cheapo monitor keyboard and mouse, the seller should just go to Goodwill or Craigslist, find a $10-$20 LCD Monitor, a cheap keyboard and mouse, set up the computer and get a nice full system picture showing off everything.
most of the people buying local on Craigslist, OfferUp, and LetGo are NOT enthusiast and PC builders but average users with no technical knowledge. so they would much rather have a whole setup (vs having to go out and buy the monitor and acessories) either that or a picture of it running makes them trust that it works much more than just a picture of the tower.
I remember one time i was selling a PC years ago, $400 no interest, put in a cheap LCD i found at Goodwill for $5 and it sold in 1 hour. of course, as i have found out, make sure the monitor isn't tiny relative to the case, I once sold a Cooler Master Cosmos PC with a 19" Monitor, and while similar PCs sold for around the same, it was a PAIN becuase the massive case made the monitor look TINY.
Ya, i have been seeing alot of 6700 systems sell as well around our version of Craig's list in Canada (Kijiji). And i too see these types of system selling for just about 600 to 800cnd. And honestly, people should just get the 3600 AMD system. Newer tech, newer mobo, can get a better PC case, and amd 3600 ofcourse having more cores & threads. You can get the AMD 3600 system easily for 700 to 800cnd all depends on your GPU.
Too many people believe what their uneducated friends say, if youre not into tech, people wont look at AMDs recent amazing come up in the world of CPUs, theyre too stuck in the world of 5 years ago where AMD was trash and runs super hot so they see i5/i7/i9 and in an instant buy them.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Positivity
For a five year old CPU the 6700k is pretty beefy. It's pinned at 100% on some titles in 4k but they run great regardless, and that's pairing it with a 2080 ti. Neither gets above sixty-five to seventy degrees. Considering selling the system, minus the GPU, once I get the new rig up and running. Just need to transfer music and picture files.
Great Advice Greg awesome video like always :D
Thanks for watching!
I can confirm the discount code and windows 10 pro key works. Just sold a computer using a key I bough using Greg’s discount code.
This kind of price range is very difficult to flip in. Especially if on old Intel now these days. Not many people are willing to front $700+ on used hardware. As you mentioned Greg you can build a brand new more capable system for that price via Ryzen. I’ve found the $400-500 market to be a very successful demographic as it’s not quite as easy to build a new parts PC in that price range that is capable of gaming modern titles without going the used route to grab better price-to-performance components. Thus people are more willing to spend $400-500 to get started with PC gaming.
Man I can't believe Skylake is 5 years old. I remember being so excited getting my new i5 6600k to put in my very first PC. Seems like it was last week.
I literally just built a system with a ryzen 2600 gtx1660 16gb kit of ddr4 3000 ram a m.2 and ssd for 675 two days ago. I can put similar fans and cooler in it and still come up way lower than 850. And everything was new. It’s a nice build but the price is a little high
It's funny you mention the prices of a used i7-6700. I was helping a friend upgrade his PC which had a Pentium G4560. Thought we could just throw a used i7-6700 in it. Turns out we could get a new Ryzen 2700 with a budget B450 board for the same price and then sell the old mobo and CPU. Sometimes, used hardware makes no sense.
This reminds me of the real estate listings in my area. The pics never show good angles, listing has too many unnecessary info, and pricing is way too high.
Although you can piece together a PC for a given amount on the used market, it takes more time (much more sometimes) to do that than buying one already built. Just something else to take into consideration from a buyers perspective. But yeah that intel ryzen comparison is on point.
By chance do you have a picture of that legs mat? Would love to build the next rig on it!
What are the reasons that it's better to buy storage new instead of used or what videos are they in?
Bruh has it really been 5 years since skylake? Built my first pc with an i3-6100 and a GTX 950. Time flew by
Good morning from Philippines! :D
Although not a major point, it should be noted, that while yes, you can get all those parts used on eBay for about $140.00 cheaper, the buyer would have to assemble all the components, and although eBay buyer protections are good, there is the time and effort required to returning any defective parts, at least with this build it's complete (and allegedly functional). So that's when the Time Value of Money comes into play. What's the time it takes you to source, purchase, assemble, and deal with any problems that arise worth to the buyer?
I've discussed time value in several videos. The answer: it isn't much. Building a PC takes a few hours at most - an hour at the least. It's easy. You shouldn't charge an engineer's salary for assembly. And buying used isn't difficult. You shouldn't be up-charging because "buying used takes time." Bogus.
That case is gonna make his CPU and GPU run super hot. The GPU is right up against the power supply shroud restricting airflow. The front panel has no space to allow air in for that air cooler.
Remember a few years ago when some ads used MMO terms. Graphics Card (BIS). aka Best in Slot.
you are so right on the ryzen cpus for 700 usd you can build a new system that performs better with more modern cases, better PSU (80+ gold) and just overall better. there is a reason the only part of the second hand market that is worth it is the gpu market these days.
On the overclocking side, that's something that's intresting to me as I won't buy anything used that's been overclocked.
I bought a similar system with aio for 650 euro great deal
I was gone at that case. I had the micro ATX version and it was garbage. Paint chips easily and the side panel is stupid soft. (My controller rolled into it and put a giant scuff in it). Don’t forget the atrocious cooling with choked intake and poor exhaust. Overheated and damaged my first 6700k build due to the solid top panel. It was too hot to even TOUCH the back of it when my computer shut down. Granted I was a noob with a 980ti in there and the BIOS was goosing the voltage, but still...stay away from these cases.
#1 tip. And this comes from someone who builds PC's and sells them as a source of side income. Post your PC for sale in other places besides for Craigslist. I honestly don't even bother with CL anymore because when I first started selling about a year ago I posted on FB Market, CL, and Ebay (with buy it now.) I got some nibbles from Ebay but soon realized I was going to end up paying more in shipping than I really wanted. And I got almost nothing from CL. But FB market and some FB buy sell trade groups even still are great for selling this stuff. Also timing seems to be important. I have a hard time selling PC's over $500 unless its around Tax season. Then they fly out the door faster than I can build them.
I have basically the same computer (except I have a 6700k, 1080 and a different phanteks enthoo case) and I wouldn't think of selling it for that much money.
Pictures are SUPER important! So are listing the specs and IMPORTANT specs in the title. Also cleaning up the PC or any item you're posting.
I'm no super flipper or anything, but when I do post items for sale, they sell fairly quick. The longest item I've held on to was probably 1 week, +/- 2 days.
Even if you did t take the best care of the item, if you clean it up a bit and can make it look good in it's surroundings/background, people will be interested. It's like a "first impression".
Also, if there are damages, list them and take a picture of it also. People would rather know up front than be surprised when they show up to buy.
Price is the biggest deal like you said in the video. I can build a similar spec PC with new parts (r5 2600, GTX 1660 ti, 16gb ram and SSD) for around $650 if i shop around for sales. $850 is crazy.
Probably should add the term "8 threads". Seems like it would help.
One thing that needs to be taken into consideration are the lowballers. If I list an item for what I want to actually sell it for, I get offers for 1/2 that. If I list an item for more, the "lowball" offer is in line with what I actually want. The buyer feels good for haggling down the price and thinking they scored a deal, and I get exactly the amount of money, OR MORE than I would have originally asked. Selling things online has become a real tightrope walk of potentially weeks' worth of wasted time, or quick money in my pocket. Take a look at r/choosingbeggars to see what a minefield it can be.
One more thing i would recommend is to completely forgo craigslist and go ebay. I've noticed that its hard to sell things more than a couple hundred dollars on craigslist a lot of that is because when making that kind of purchase most people dont have 800 in cash. A lot of times when buying a computer people will want to use paypal or a credit card.
I sold 12 PCs during the first half of 2019 and made some good money. I stopped because I saw the 3600 killing the used market. It drove down the price of all used parts and killed any margin you once had. Also, PSU prices went way up, killing more margin. The game is over boys, pack it up!
Part it out on hardwareswap. Case sell locally.
on the "delicate hardware, never overclocked" part, its similar like in the car ads.
1. lady owner/driver
2. accident free
3. low mileage yada yada
this kind of "red flag" would make me avoid those car at first lol
If it comes cleaned, new thermal paste and a Windows license 7-800 isnt toooo bad
Yeah, might need to drop the price in $50 increments weekly until a nibble comes along. I would probably just say something to the effect of: "Solid gaming system" and mention which games could play on ultra settings and whatnot. I would also load it up with whatever games/software I could.
This guy is probably just getting some seed money for his next build. For me, I generally ask my friends who needs a free/cheap computer and gut my system for parts I would keep.
My next giveaway will be a 2nd gen i7 with GTX 960, 32GB DDR3 and 160GB SSD with 500GB SATA (Been a long time since I seriously refreshed).
Will wait for DDR5 though as I am doing a quantum leap in performance.
I think if you add up the fans and LED, it'll be a lot closer to the asking price.
what info do i need to put when selling my pc? and how do i get it?
My rule of thumb for used system pricing is the cost of building a new machine versus the price of used machine. If I can build new for the same or less than the used system, then I don't see the used system being a logical buy. I see a lot of sellers on Facebook marketplace who seem to miss out on that point. They think their used systems and parts go up in value with age, and we all know the truth about that subject.
I added up the used price of components to build my computer (2nd gen I7-2600) and it came in around $300.00, yet I see computers like it advertized and sold for $450.00-$650.00. I'm still happy with my system and will probably keep it for two more years, but if I had to replace it I wouldn't pay more than $350.00. And if I were to sell it I would ask $450.00 if I didn't need to move it fast but would take as little as $300.00 if it didn't move in two weeks. People who buy high-end things aways think that they're worth more used than they are.
He forget to mention "RUNS EVERYTHING AT ULTRA" 🤣
if you’re interested i would love you to do another one of these videos with my system.. i’m kinda stuck
I might leave the EVGA in myself as I know that their products with a part number that ends in "KR" have a warranty that follows the item and not the person, extra value to me if its not too old. Oh and remember if you base your pricing on ebay prices I would go by SOLD items, not whats listed as those obviously havent sold and might be over priced.
Would you recommend saying it can be overclocked to 3.75ghz instead of the stock 3.2? If I was selling a ryzen build
Before getting my current PC, I used to Window Shop Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace and I'd always see people trying to sell a PC for more than it's work and to make it seem like an amazing deal they'd add games. I see anyone add games to a used gaming PC listing and I instantly assume they are an idiot. Best one was on Craigslist 2+ years ago when a person was asking $4,000 for their I7-5700k GTX 980 Ti with a long list of movies and steam games that were included on the PC. I don't remember to much about the specs other than being surprised that they thought that would sell.
I would be really interested in seeing a review of the
Pixio PXC243 it's a 144 hz monitor and it's fairly inexpensive
I'm about to get into flipping PCs myself... I was about to start ordering the parts next week so this video helps a lot! Thanks!!!
Don't do it is a waste of time and money. Learn another trade anything, anything else will bring you more money. Cut yards, repair small engines, cut hair. Anything else will do. The problem is people don't place any value on labor when building computers, maily thanks to people like Greg.
@@subestimado10 yes it doesn't bring you a lot of profit but if you're passionate about computers it is a good way to make a bit of $ while still doing something you want to do.
cob - Anime on Piano and More flip used pcs, I flipped about 2 pcs and made $100 on my first and $190 on my second
@@ok-ue7yl If you do it as a hobby then yes go ahead and do it, otherwise if you think you will be making a decent profit then Don't
@@horizonsystems178 I bought a broken riding mower for 100 dollars spent 50 on a new carb and sold for 700. I made 550 dollars. I spent 700 dollars building a pc, it sold for 700 because people think there is no value on the labor and time spent researching ordering and building the PC. This is just the example of many.