The Sad State of Freminet | Genshin Impact
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- So I am not sure about you but I think Freminet is actually a fun and some times even strong a character!... But there are a few problems that hold him back, so check out this Freminet Showcase of Melt, Physical and Dendro builds as I go through all 5 stages of grief (:
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Freminet is like a mini Eula that can also Melt & can be in Dendro teams... but it's the execution that's lacking :D
Tbh, I actually really like him, just wish we could get a closure from Hoyo regarding Physical teams
@@PlayzD.Kiyoshi media server.
This give me hope that Hoyo will rework shatter.
But who am i kidding, they will never buff it. 😢😢😢
@@recentmap7268 why would they waste time on something that works fine as is and is still decent, Genshin players lack scope
Bro thinks he's Eula.💀
sadly, i think freminet will be another dori.
I'm noticing these newer characters getting more and more complex with their kit. Compare them to the early characters - Kaeya has a straight damage skill, Amber has an AoE and a taunt, and Zhong Li has a shield.
By the time we hit Natlan, each new character will have a thesis for just their passive
And with long skill description lol
In all honesty these walls of texts say a lot that ultimately can be summerized in 2 sentences,take nilou's descriptions for example,the mountain of text in her skill can be summerized in :" the skill has 2 modes,by normal attacking she gets hydro infusion and grants 60 elemental mastery to the team,press skill thrice and a whirlpool is created around her that applies hydro" it's an issue of text bloat,never have i understood what these longass descriptions say without r/ThanksRazor helping me,they legit do a better job telling people what does what than the game itself(you know something went wrong somewhere when a meme subreddit is now the go to place for actually understanding how a character works)
That's just a natural consequence of gacha games. As more characters come out, the more complicated kits become in order to avoid having copy paste ones.
Also, both Lyney and Lynette have rather simple kits tho.
@@randomperson093 Well hoyo has gotten shit from players in the past for not having ALL the details in the descriptions so damned if you do damned if you don't is the case here. (also your nilou skill description is missing the fact that you can click a mix plus that you need 3 normals for the infusion)
this is the thing I hate most in genshin. they really love naming "every" moves to something with long text. they should learn from hsr to make the description shorter but still clear.
I still feel like physical will be buffed by the time Mondstadt gets a expansion, which will be almost at end game in my eyes 💀
Its either in 4.1 or 4.4
considering main story for fontaine gonna be in those updates iirc, i personally see expansion to mond only after it. we may get expansion to liyue before it, tho @@ronavdaftary1252
They will buff it when Capitano releases. He will scale on the Physical Dmg of his basic attacks and he will 100% use the set Bloodstained Knight artifact set.
@@Zero_Li24 how do you know that? Not meant to be rude by the way i just am curious
One buff that can benefit anyone include physical is if shatter reaction give dmg bonus debuff to enemy similiar like mona's ult omen debuff.
Genshin seems to really love their animal companions for the newer characters
the penguin is by far the cutest thing, almost rivaling dare I say... Guoba!!!
That is so true, I just think it's a nice idea.
@@ArchonKujoyouuuuu
@@GachaGamerRUclipsyuegui is also really cute
Guoba is soo cute
Hoyoverse has gone full-on
"4 stars are for fun, 5 stars are for damage."
No joke, the latest 4* have been soo fun to use! I honestly prefer flexible and fun characters that deal ok damage, than nukers with a rigid and boring playstyle.
@@franciscopetrucci yeah same. Supports like Layla, Kaveh, Collei, and Kirara have been so much fun to use. I think I’m gonna love using Freminet because that’s such a cool idea for 2 different viable playstyles. Obviously physical in general is absolute hotdog water in this game, but I think Hoyo knows it. I expect at some point we will get some kind of rework.
This is true but if you notice there are very few (if any) viable full 5 star teams. 5 star has always been the patty on the burger, but you cant have a burger without lettuce, tomato, and condiments.
@@Phabreeze It has to be a team that doesn’t use Bennett, Xingqiu, Fischl, or a niche support that is a four star.
So basically only Freeze off the top of my head, like for example Ayaka, Kokomi, Kazuha, Shenhe.
This is proof xiangling is a five star in disguise
Physical and geo deserve more love 😢
Version 62.5 bro I swear
@@traincore1955physical archon confirmed
@Namei116 weapon: *gun*
what if Khaenri'ah gonna be physical nation
They don't need love. They need a complete rework. Like a major one
The fun thing with new characters is that you can always find a way to play them in a way they weren't intended to.
Thats the best kind of design for characters!
I built my Razor as a Hyperbloom DPS
Razor full EM using 4 Pc flower of paradise lost, with Mailed Flower claymore,
With xing, yaoyao, and Fischl as the team...
Razor hits really hard even tho not usually built the proper way (which is Physical Razor)
😅
Don't forget Chongyun!! Specially for the cryo build, he infuses the NA and gives a Cooldown reduction with his skill.
Once I get my hands on Freminet I am going to run him with my C6 Chongyun to see how well it can be
never forget it's 2 cryo unit resonance because crit buff.
@@NeoSlashott do you think Freminet work well with Layla? I like her shield :) plus they will get resonance too
@@arian_mottamaybe on a mono cryo team?
@@reyluna5725 uhum that might work :) or cryo + hydro
Love how they made him as a physical Dps but he's more effective in melt
Same with his twin razor who is better with dendro teams
I mean, the game is designed with elemental reaction combat, so everything is an upgrade to physical.
Zyox came to complete opposite conclusion so Idk
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They basically only have 1 reaction for Physical which is Shatter, Cryo × Physical but Superconduct could be one too sice it decreases physical resistance.
They could do so much for physical reactions.
Hoyoverse should also make more Elemental Resonances.
They should make mixed elemental resonances tbh. And maybe full same element party resonances since mono teams are becoming popular with the addition of Lyney.
@@cannibalman8175even Lyney and Gorou who love mono teams were never meant to require more than three charas of one element, doing otherwise would be too restrictive
before dendro release there was a leak saying that aggravate would buff electro and physical, obviously that didn't happen but i think it would have been nice
We're still missing an Abyss elemental resonance, given we know Dansleif will eventually be playable. We've had his card for years. But lord only knows how THAT'S gonna work..
The easiest way to buff some elements is to add actual elemental reactions to geo. Imagine pyro and geo dropping the resistance of a enemy initially than causing extra damage that scale with how long the debuff was on the enemy, up to a cap.
Im just glad Rosaria has a reliable reverse melt build that she works well even if she is supposedly a physical character (c1 and c6 are for improving her normal attacks afterall)
I have her c15 😢
C6 is just a good universal buff for any physical unit since its on her burst which is off field and also can provide up to a 15% crit rate buff
she quick swap doe
oooooooooooooooo
thank god🙏
He would be perfect with Chonyun, for a mono cryo or melt comp. Although, let’s not deny that physical is in a very sad state…
sadly, his icd is not that great to be played in melt
"At [C2], Chongyun Elemental Skill reduces ability cooldown that is casted within the zone by 15%. This is one of the few abilities in the game that can reduce cooldown." It’s better than nothing and to be tested.
@@atsukikuroe2613 i was talking about internal cooldown, not skill cooldown... skill cooldown reduction has nothing to do with icd. His normal attacks can only melt/apply cryo every 3 hits or 2 seconds (normal ICD). That's why he's not good for melt, because the total damage ceiling would be much lower than Physical build...
@@abbyy6361 I know what ICD means but considering he is a claymore (slower animation attack) 2 seconds it’s not so bad, plus I did mention it had to be tested because a lot a CCs forgot Chonyun exists (with 74 characters? Totally understandable)
It is always the same, Mihoyo releasing a physical dps and people realising it is better to use it for its whatever other element it has
It's sad to see that miHoYo doesn't care about Physical :(
@@BulletSponge71436 .....and Geo.
@@odinonion4619 Geo at least has a very comfortable and powerful character in the form of Itto.
Physical has Eula. Don't get me wrong, Eula *is* powerful, but she isn't that comfortable compared to Itto with a risk to totally waste your burst hitting nothing.
With Geo you can at least build a team consisting of C6 Gorou, C6 Yun Jin, Zhongli for example and use them with Noelle or Itto, and you WILL get them all to C6 eventually. But Physical doesn't really have that option. You can try to sweat and eventually clear the Abyss with 36 stars with a Physical team, but is it really worth it?
@@BulletSponge71436 c6 yunjin has a better sinergy with characters that aren't geo than the main Geo DPSs though. Both itto and ningguang are heavily focused on charged attacks (which is why i believe that, along with the new artifact sets and the new BP bow, we're getting a charged attack booster in the near future)
@@BulletSponge71436 Don't forget about Noelle who can literally carry an entire party on her back with her AOE, shielding, AND healing. Only drawback is her lack of personal energy production.
i think your mistake was comparing it to Eula and not what he was intended. He's a Shatter user, not pure Physical, so his ideal team isnt even Pure Physical or pure Cryo, but rather Shatter teams, which seems to excel pretty well.
Cryo Diluc😂😂😂
@@demonslayer4951nevermind chongus e is the bababoie
@@demonslayer4951??? no
There's a cool melt trick for cryo characters that I've learnt on the internet which is to put an off-field denro character for burning reaction in ur team. That way u have constant pyro aplication and thanks to cryo having no reaction with dendro it goes uninterrupted.
Except if you have a c2 Nahida, forget about burning
The 4* syndrome
The NEW 4* syndrome.
Bennett, Fischl, Xiangling and Xinqui didnt have this problem
@@sakiamira lol its crazy how those 4 4stars are the strongest characters in the game especially if theyre C6
@@ngm6541careful, maybe you'll find some replies from "C6 Bennet is bad" player
Just pull 5*
@@FahrizalSurya especially since that is not true. C6 Bennet benefits all chars except for one or two exceptions lol
I feel like sumeru was made to introduce dendro into the meta
And now fontaine is here to play around with other elements with other unique playstyles like mono pyro and shatter that wasnt as explored before sumeru
Yeah, kinda. Freminet would be good at Shatter *IF* he was buffing the reaction itself.
I so very much beg they dedicate a lot of character to physical. Physical has like 5 units that are actually dedicated to it and that’s it. They could start by buffing the 4-element resonance and letting it buff physical somehow, it’d just be a nice all-round buff and make xinyan’s limited teams slightly less of a problem (but still a problem regardless).
My idea for such a buff is for the resonance to significantly boost attack speed and normal attack damage (charged and plunging attacks included), alongside making shatter, crystallise and swirl stronger
Generally, physical itself needs an entire rework. Ideally it’d get more reactions or some special tag that allows units to specify whether they buff physical-oriented units or not. But out of everything, surprisingly I see rework to the redundant “protective canopy” resonance to be the most likely.
@@mrlampy Yes! More Physical characters! I would LOVE to see more of them.
no matter what, nothing will ever convince me that shatter is the most stupid elemental reaction in the game.
I mean, IT WORKS in the TCG, but then again, damage and pacing work differently there. But in the regular game, shatter feels as inconsistent and incospicuous as it gets.
@@yuzzo92 shatter should’ve beenl a little more unique than just a regular transformative reaction like vaporise and melt. It could’ve done something whacky like make ice shards fly out of enemies and make them bleed but knowing hoyoverse, what we’ve got now is what we’ll have forever.
It says so much about the state of the elements that Hyperbloom is so often the best build for ... physical Cryo characters
In the end the sad truth is that 4 star carry dps will never be on the level as 5 star ones
Just one exception I can think of - I generally prefer Yanfei over Diluc. When the Pheonix can't insta-kill small mobs it's an absolute nightmare. So much time wasted running around.
Also there is Sucrose who is technically not a carry, but teams where she is on-field are generally better than anything that Xiao or Wanderer can offer (especially without C6 Faruzan)
@@SeenE-kg9nj Sucrose is NOT better than 5* hypercarry LMAO
@@lluminateathe thing is for a hyper Xiao and wanderer u need c6 faruzan to unlock their full potential and their niche artifact sets but sucrose is extremely easy to build and gives so many buffs that she is better than both of them
@@adnanhussain9057 Sucrose by herself isn't dealing damage no? You have to build the other 3 characters too if you want damage.
@@lluminatea The OP said "carry", not "hyper carry". Yes, by herself Sucrose is nowhere near 5* hyper carry level. In fact I believe parts of her EM buff specifically only affect teammates. But for overall teams: if you put her with Bennet/Xiangling/Xingqiu or Fischl/Beidou/Yaoyao, those teams are so strong that hypercarry teams will struggle to keep up
I just noticed his mechanics aren't actually locked in constellations and it's all damage boosts which is nice
And here I was hoping that he was gonna be a user of the Bell sword as he had it in his Cards.
Bell's only use is being a wasted 4* pity roll from the gacha.
You can use it on Him for underwater exploration
The Bell is top tier for underwater
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Honestly i don't judge a character on Damage there's just no endgame(spiral abyss doesn't count)i judge them on are they fun to play and Freminet is enjoyable
His cryo damage works great in melt and even could be fun with lynette's swirling
Why doesn't it count? 36stars is definitely a measurement of ability and potential
A character can be fun but if you build them up and they're not helping you beat Abyss for those free primos, then why build them
@@paulyviiFor playing… the actual game? Omg, some ppl play the actual game, so weird!😱
@@paulyvii Assuming you've already beaten floors 1-8, beating the abyss gives 600 primos. That's 3.75 wishes, my dude. You're gonna base your entire outlook of a character's worth on whether they can beat a dungeon just for three measly wishes? Abyss is pointless.
@@AnimeFluxYT what u said makes a lot of sense. 3.75 wishes… oh boy. The Abyss is so NOT worth it. Pull for characters you find fun to play. who cares if they’re meta or not.
I got him C0 and gave him my Eula artifacts and to my surprise he actually hits just about as hard as her without her burst. I'm seeing pretty similar numbers but it's mostly because I'm able to burst more often with him than not.
Is Freminet out already? I looked but it said he’s 6 hours away. Is that a server difference?
@@S1lent85 Asia server i guess
@@S1lent85 I think some servers receive the update a few hours earlier. I still need to wait for another 2 hours I think (American server)
Well if all his dmg is only as strong as the weak half of eula's kit...
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He's supposed to be played with shatter... Which nobody else uses so it's a bit unique
When freminet said he was only good at fixing things around the house turns out he was right
Don't do him like that.. he's trying!
Bruuhhh 😂
Daaaaamn
???? i dont get it...
Leave him alone 😭 Poor dude already got enough of slandering!!
When I saw him being this skill dependent, I expected the new artifact set to work on him. I guess that is why his meter doesn't do down after he is switched out, so you can technically use it but it seems this will just become a real chore to use. Not sure if someone can find a rotation where this would work.
Would feel very clunky for sure. You'd have to do 4 normals (2 with burst) to max out the meter but being careful not to accidentally trigger it with an extra attack (which can very well happen), then switch out to turn on the 4-piece effect (but you can't stay out for longer than 10 seconds), to finally swap back in and deal the skill damage within 2 seconds (pray not to get staggered).
And then when you consider his burst encourages him to spam his skill, which ends up making him actually great with Pale Flame... Yeah. That said, guess you can try Phys Blizzard Strayer, though it might be subpar too.
Pale Flame is really good if u want the instant Physical stack from 4pc. When you cast E once, it triggers 2 damage. Your atk increase twice and another 25% physical dmg increase if both dmg hits the enemy.
I like the direction they went with his elemental skill and elemental burst functions, I really like characters the have multi-layered skills and bursts like this because it adds in some neat mix-ups to the combos, I personally would like to see more like that in the future, but of course maybe in a way that focuses more on elemental dmg then physical, I don't hate physical comps tbh, but I cant deny that elemental teams tend to be stronger either.
By the way, if anyone want to build Physical Freminet, 4pc Pale Flame can immediately full stack if you use elemental skill once.
His elemental skill triggers damage twice which triggers the 4pc if both damage hits.
Thanks, le kiss
Tried him in trial and I got to say he's actually pretty fun to play but I got to thinking, where am I supposed to use him? And is his damage enough?
5:55 Maybe this is Freminet’s way of taking HP just like his brother and sister. The synergy 😍
I ain't a simp but, a femboy's a femboy
I feel like this character was literally build to be Eula's Hyperbloom team.
The shatter mechanic means you want Hydro. The Physical damage means you want electro. So that leaves one spot left, and if you add dendro, you add so much more damage, while not lowering his damage much. Plus, since he does far more cryo App than Eula, he actually helps with a fridge mechanic and making more blooms
Physical will never outmatch other damage type, unless they buff the physical damage mechanic
miHoYo just didn't care about Freminet's kit for some weird reason, that's why his Physical build is kinda bad.
The way I thought you were about to talk about his mental state.
he looked fun to use but people prefer big number in abyss
Genshin is first and foremost a combat game, and while having most of its mechanics centered around combat, there is only a single avenue that is combat-related - Abyss
Abyss is not a skill-check, it's not a fun-check, it is a dps-check, meaning that if you do not do a certain amount of damage within a certain time limit, you fail.
If hoyo wanted us to not care about "big numbers" and care about fun instead, they would either remove the time limit or release units that are able to be fun and have "big numbers"
Nah he's just a standard claymore user with Chongyun esque skill burst he is bad and I say this as a Eula main physical is complete bad
@@yourdeadman genshin isn't a combat game, it's a story/exploration game.
Stop coping.
@@Oedipus.combat is the end game
actually fewer people care about big numbers.. majority of people just care who looks cute.. and you won't hear from the majority because they don't go to forums and comment sections. they just play the game and enjoy.
I like it he has two main play paths. You can either do a physical build or a cryo build. Its nice. I love the E spam during Q, he sets up his own freeze for him to shatter, all you need is a hydro character . He sounds kinda crazy to me, cant wait to try
they're not even testing new ideas to use on 5* characters they make 4* as useless and they can get
Genshin likes to abandon almost all new 4* after release and forget about it 😅
Contrary to that, the 4-stars are more experimental and open up different playstyles. 5-stars only need to do damage or be a quick swap support with upped scalings, nothing groundbreaking there.
Physical, Geo need systemical rework since they became completely isolated elements and hence artificially worse with no fault of their own.
As well as Shatter and superconduct being both mandatory and bad at the same time.
Dendro and Cryo has to have a reaction. Something that buffs cryo damage or whatever.
Its cool it cant have a reaction tho. Now you can freeze enemies while creating dendro cores at the same time
Something like "wilt" could be cool. Applying cryo after dendro could be a way to slow or debuff the enemy. Just like how winter ruins plants.
frozen veggies lmfao
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Iceberg Lettuce
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actually if we see at your Freminet' damage output, it is already big in spiral.
He can deal those big damages so often.
One to consider is not the weirdness of his kit, but can he finish floor 12 under 3 minutes ?
If can, he is a good 4* character, even if you must spill some cash to build him, (but not whaling for weapon 5star R5).
Gacha Gamer, I've heard there is an interesting interaction with Freminet and C2 Chongyun, because of Chongyun's C2 cooldown reduction, Freminet's skill is actually spammable. I wonder if it's possible to play him in freeze/ mono cryo team? Something like Freminet, Chongyun, Shenhe/ Kazuha/ Xingqiu/ Yelan? I don't know if it's too much to ask for, but could you please showcase it?
You cant play freeze with freminet bcs it will break,for mono cryo i think he cant bcs his cryo only from skill and he is supposed to be physical dps and if you pair with chongyun is useless bcs the attack speed is too slow
@@otshuka1 Well in either of the teams you aren't really supposed to NA with him. If his skill counts as a blunt attack then yeah freeze isn't really an option, but mono cryo is possible. Chongyun is there to just reduce cooldown and generate energy, maybe burst when he can. It probably won't be a strong team but it will be pretty fun. I think with Freminet's burst and Chongyun's C2, Freminet's skill is about 0.7 seconds of cooldown, which is about the same time it takes for the skill animation to finish.
"if you have this claymore" MY TIME HAS COME
i actually hoped there would be a character that could use the bells full potential
I know this is for more money, but Hoyo seems to love making the new four stars c6 dependent (correct me if I’m wrong).
I wanted him to be a good buff to Wriothesley. But seeing the claymore shattered me (no pun intended)
Now, I got 6 copies of lil bro while pulling for Childe 💀
Bro's penguin deals more damage than an archons meteor
It’s like Hoyoverse purposely doesn’t want physical damage to be powerful or popular. Physical is not supposed to have a reaction; that is inherent to its overall identity. Because of this, physical characters should have higher damage numbers to make up for it (or, more enemies should have decreased physical resistance). Eula’s numbers are quite high, but there is a significant lack of good off-field physical supports to make her feel good enough to play most of the time. Mika almost seems like he was designed with a different 5 star physical character to support in mind. I wouldn’t hold my breath for an amazing physical support character to come out or for a rework of physical damage reactions.
yeah, its embarrassing that Shenhe is a better Eula support than Mika, even Zhongli’s resistance shred is better.
Superconductor exist
If Physical is not supposed to have a reaction,I want all character should have their weapon infused with element naturally
@@pontoancora Although superconduct does decrease physical resistance, it itself is the reaction between ice and electro. Physical itself does not cause a reaction when paired with another element. It is nice that Mihoyo did remember to at least have another elemental reaction slightly help boost physical damage, but it isn’t enough. Requiring an electro, cryo, physical, and physical support on your team, imo, demands too much, creating suboptimal teams and a not synergistic, clunky-feeling play-style.
@@aizamyusoff2114 this is a pretty cool idea! If they created specific weapons that inherently have elemental infusion replacing their main stat (or even better have it as a passive that can be activated upon following specific requirements!} this would be incredibly nice for physical DPS characters (if those weapons had cryo or electro infusion). If such weapons existed, then the player would have more choice regarding team setup (a cryo or electro character would essentially be able to be replaced), making teams with physical units that depend on superconduct to increase their damage feel far less clunky to use,and allowing for an additional physical support character, possibly further increasing damage output! My only concern that such a weapon very easily could be OP and challenge the games balancing, but, if Mihoyo made the requirements to activate he infusion on such a weapon very unique and specific, this idea could be implemented into the game and bring some welcome change and increase physical teams utility. Clever idea!
I really want to grab freminet just to keep up on characters, but I already have the 5 stars on the banners hes on. a C1 would be cool i guess but theres so many characters coming that i should probably keep building my dragon horde of primo's
By default, a 4pcs Blizzard set + Royal greatsword is much better option because his attacks gear more Cryo Damage rather than physical especially his Burst. You'll get even more crit rate with blizzard set and even more from Royal Greatsword. I thought back with a Ganyu build there though.
Royal Greatsword isn't good on anyone because mathematically the crit rate it provides just isn't enough.
@@devondorr8212 it does work in most cases by ratio 120CR/240CD because of the blizzard 4pcs passive which means you gain crit rate even more with a stackable cryo hit.
"This is sad" but somehow "Xinyan is scary". Ok dude.
The buff will come with the cryo archon surely years from now 😂
Snezhnaya is years away from now 💀💀 id probbably died by then and also the space i cannot imagine how big genshin will be in storsge
@@arminarlert1953that's only about three years away if they continue to have one big update a year. Unless you're hella old you are not gonna be dead by then 😭
We’re almost 3 years into the game now . What’s up with a little 2 years . By then you should’ve a better device.
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Some RUclipsr has tried with R1 Song of Broken Pines, while he's C6. In 2+2 Physical pieces, he could deal 80k from final E attack. The other teammates were C5 Fischl in Tenacity set, C6 Xingqiu & C2 Mika. Not even C6.
Let’s just appreciate the fact that Gacha Gamer already have not only c6 Freminet(4* that sometimes is harder to get then 5*) but also upgraded him to lvl 90 AND scrambled a decent artivacts,
For non meta 4*
THIS close to his release
I swear he is the only guy who farms leylines on purpose and probably have a week schedule resin outputs.
Shoutouts to the legend!
what are you smoking bruh he's obviously a beta tester, or how else do you think he can release the video just after the banner is out 💀
You don't know what test server is do you my friend
Lmao, imaging running through life that oblivious and not even questioning anything
blind genshin enjoyer
"instead of kindly informing them, let's just be a bunch of assholes!"
Even though I am not playing genshin impact I fully support this game!
!(GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH THE UPDATES OF GENSHIN IMPACT SOONEST)
Now do pyro freminet-
Hoyoverse really out there releasing new physical units thinking maybe a new character is all that's needed to fix Physical damage completely. In my opinion, the reason why Physical feels worse than other damage type is because of how limited it is.
>There's only one actual reaction that works with it, and superconduct only increases the amount of physical damage enemies receive. It's technically Quicken, but you don't have the Aggravate and Spread part. There IS shatter but...
>There isn't that much defense shred in the game, with Lisa's being the only reliable one since the others (Raiden and Ayaka) are locked behind constellations.
>Physical buffing units like Mika doesn't even rival other specific supports like Faruzan, Gorou, and Shehe. Mika can only support physical once you get him to C6. Meanwhile, the other three can buff their respective damage types even at C1 although the 4s would still want C6.
It's clear Hoyoverse is still trying to come up with a way to make Physical and Geo as strong as other damage types. Although, Physical lacks things that would require it to match other damage types, as a result, they made up for it by giving physical DPS units big numbers.
With Geo on the other hand. The problemm is its confined within a single thing. Hoyoverse seems to think the only way to make Geo work is to make every Geo DPS scale off Defense and wield Greatswords. Which is strange, because they did a great job with Ningguang who doesn't scale on Defense.
Taking Honkai Impact for example, the reason why the damage types are on equal footing in that game is because each damage types have their own Debuffs and Buffs. This is why I think the best way to make Physical work is to introduce more Physical oriented buffs and debuffs. Maybe for one, buff shatter damage overall.
I miss back then when being a4 star just ment clunky, not trash
He feel like Xinyan cryo edition but don't know what damage bonus you really want to focus on. Pressure level is not that complex but not really that great.
She???? It's a boy
@@Luke-cb3ly oh fuck I'm trapped
@@chenchen6150 lmao
It's to make sure you're able to freeze whatever you're hitting so his passive can proc.
Good Breakdown!!
I do appreciate at least a different playstyle with him, it was fun doing different combos and ways to play
Freminet is not what I call a "bad" character, he can be decent, I just don't think he lives off the hype for most people comparing those of Lyney and Lynette, thus I like him, such a shy boy and I like his voice in ENG and JP (If you play Project Sekai you'll know what I mean in JP) he is unique but not technically as favorable, I like how he uses the helmet as a Elemental Skill.
he atleast has a unique and fun kit to play even if he's garbage, unlike the average 4 star who's just a budget support option
Title should have been “Playable Freminet: Friend or Frenemy?”
Now that is rare, Gacha Gamer didn't show us the usual "as usual check out the gear used on the bottom of the screen" or along that line..
Something sus 😮
eh, i sometimes skip doing these in showcase videos, especially if they are more topical, like this one with freminet.
Honestly I ain't even mad that means mihoyo is trying to rack something for Physical teams maybe this is just a small experiment for the future. Honestly would be cool that we might get characters that can decently wield two elements (like delusions or something fun) then again physical isn't really an element but I wouldn't want to think too much because that's a whole another rabbit hole and might shake the core concept of us having specific elements that was built up from the beginning.
Aint gonna lie, the 4pc pale flame you had on him is pretty bad and somehow managed to deal much damage is quite impressive
I mean who actually farms for that garbage?
@@marcusaurelius4777 i mean you gotta farm the tenacity at some point, or even playing Eula or any Physical
Yeah but you probably trash them in the strongbox for other better sets kekw like extra Tenacity or other sets like Emblem or something. @@divinesan7786
I wish he was more of a cryo mini-diluc than physical mini-eula 😭
Wait 20k to 50k damage is bad? Damn. My standard must be really low then.Those kind of damage is already very good.
I also don't get that at all. These creators have a totally different scale from ordinary players.
it really depends on what situation you are on.
The only metric these showcase channels go for is how fast a character can clear the abyss. That's it. Nothing about domains, events, overworld. It's all the abyss. Because it's really the only test players are given. Still, people keep being surprised a 4* character isn't a new Bennett and Xiangling.
Physical DMG getting a nice buff from Shatteer would be kinda cool. like 2x DMG increease for Shatteering an opponant. Although I would like it if they added in maybe a petrify mecanic by combining GEO with Anemo and it also does the Shatter Reaction except we can call it Crumble. Maybe Shatter does 2x and Crumble does a 1.5x similar to Melt/Vape comps but for Cryo/Anem/Elctro/Geo only. Hydro is just to strong atm with it being the flatline Base of 85% of the reactions
God I want him so bad, but I'm nearing pity and don't wanna risk not getting Venti ;-;
What if venti dont come out for another 3 updates tho lol
@@Ninjabladeyokotofufu isn't he confirmed in 4.1?
@@kiroava6277 no there has been no live stream yet lol it could be anybody also even if he did come out in 4.1 we are getting a bunch of rewards so most likely you could get him anyway
If you are close to pity stop pulling until you find a 5 stars character you want. Pulling rn is a complete waste for you.
Stop pulling rn if you want Venti. We are in the Archon rerun patches and he could show up any time
I died inside when i found out he was PHYSICAL WITH SHATTER
Wait, his banner is out???
Maybe he's a hint at more Physical support? And Navia for Geo? I'll be hopelessly optimistic.
The new furuzan
Nah that's mika
I will not stand this faruzan SLANDER
right now. He has potential.I mean...i have 9* Floor 12 with Physical Qiqi
I dunno, 2 piece pale flame, 2 piece bloodstain and Song of Broken Lines, Whiteblind, or Snowtomb and build him a Superconduct team sounds awesome to me…
why not 4-piece pale flame? he takes full advantage of the set if i'm not mistaken
why whiteblind lmao why would u give him a def claymore??
@@gaara_goharder to get good stats on a set and unless ure insane and spent all the time in that domain + strongboxing u may have little to no good stuff of it
whiteblind?
The problem is this game is such a DPS check that physical and geo just won’t work, even Eula you better be dropping nukes or it’s just a waste of time.
MonoGeo works and even in the new Abyss, it's not as much of a DPS check as it once was, sort of an elemental check but you only really need three Geo + one flex at a time.
And I will get him in C6, because I will throw 180 wishes on Zhongli's banner.
Or you'll just get 15 sayu
@@white19875 TRUE
@@white19875 I already have a c6 sayu...
😂 All I got is Noelle. shes C20 now
@@raz2912 ah dang
He didn't come home during my Zhongli pulls. He didn't want me
what i hate about him is that i want him so bad but he's on the zhongli / childe banner
"but they're good" i hate childe as a character and i already have c1 zhongli, and to make matters worse, i'm on guaranteed waiting for eventual hu tao & baizh reruns
"but c2 zhongli is good in coop" that requires playing coop to make use of it.. i do not coop 😂
C2 Zhongli lessens rotation times by casting his shield just by bursting, that's a pretty good QoL thing.
How do people already have this character? This video came out 11 hours ago and the new banner doesn't come out for another hour and a half for me. Do they really release banners at such drastically different times for different areas?
Ironically, Freminet- a 4.0 4 star- Is a way better Cryo claymore user than Chongyun- A 1.0 4 star.
It saddens me how disgustingly sad Chongyun is compared to the other 4 star despite being a launch 4 star when we got very good 4 stars like Xiangling Xingqiu Bennett Sucrose. Hell, at least everyone else has a clear role, but not Chongyun.
He is created as a burst support.
And cryo infusion.
What's so unclear about his role?
@@danmakuexpress8229unclear who he is supposed to be supporting
@@Rayne-ih5yf kaeya.. theyre a good team btw just not meta
generally, perhaps. but he does excel in super niche teams. like my dps benny build- his c2 really helps a ton with cd reduction and cryo infusion, making my c5 benny just spam his skill again and again (plus eventual burst) for that sweet melt damage.
@@Rayne-ih5yf Then that's not about the clarity of his role, just how niche of a role he fulfills.
IT HAPPENED!
I knew the moment it was revealed he was a 4 star physical dps that he would be quiet underwhelming!
It really sucks Mihoyo just continues to release weak 4 stars and only seem to be put effort into 5 star character kits...
Oh wait Dehya exists nvm lol
Sooooo, can i build Freminet with 2pc Pale flame or bloodstained and 2pc Blizzard strayer? that was he does dmg for both ways of dmg
I have a feeling Arlecchino will buff physical damage dealers or will become the best physical damage dealer
and this feeling is based on what? i don't really see it
rumours said arlecchino will be pyro
You have a feeling? Wtf is this nonsense
Man really pulled this out of his nether zone
Yeah bro, I also have a feeling that the pyro archon will actually have a geo vision and he will buff geo dmg.
I have no phy dmg character built now that we r getting himfor free im kinda excited
Damn every new characters in genshin now is kinda mid but still descent I quit genshin now but I don't even regret quitting currently playing star rail now star rail is more f2p friendly and mobile friendly
I quit cuz there's no skip dialogue button. I'd play alot more if I could skip that boring dialogue
@@daizenmarcurio true true the side quests are just too boring but and the events rewards are not enough 💀
NoiCe, proud Free 2 Poor player lmao
@@zvinio778 proud free 2 poor players let's goooooooo lmao 🤣
@@zvinio778bro thought he did something
me: sees long explanation
*checks youtube*
In CN server they already showcased a 1.16M plunge damage from Freminet with Ayaka/Kazuya/Bennet in the co-op lineup O.O
I'll try shatterbloom 🤠
Hello all!
i know this is not the theme of thsi video but i want to kmow what are the best artifacts sets for cyno cause i ended getting him a while back and i would like to build him correctly but i am not sure what to put on him. guilde dreams seems viable but thundering fury seems really good as well.
PS: i only recently realised that guilded work on him. and my current team for him is CYNO main dps, kuki shinobu (built as healer /max HP cause she is my best healer XD), collei and i am thinking of putting kirara as a shielder.
Interesting. If he can have a crying damage play style, maybe chongyun might be a fun team member. Good? Maybe not. But fun? I think so.
freminet is probably one of my best builds, with 2 pc blizzard strayer and 2 pc gladiator. a nice balance of physical and cryo, plus with wolf's gravestone I got him up to 3285 atk(over 4k with benny), so if you put enough time into a character, you can always give them what they need to be 'a good build'. Also a quick tip: if you spam skill during his burst, you can do one to two normal attacks during the very short cooldown to destroy enemies faster.
They will never buff physical because every character in the game can deal physical damage (catalyst users need specific catalysts)
If they ever make physical focused characters viable they are gonna universally nerf everyone else normal attack scaling.
Freminet was fun to play in the trial, sadly we're getting 2 more husbando next patch so rip
YOOO freminets playstyle is really something else, I mean its fun to play him
Ferminet is a discount Eula Chongyun hybrid. But he wants to do physical both physical and cryo.😅
playing Freminet makes me want to play Chongyun.
Okay! Let's be honest.
What the Bell Claymore doing on his Official Flash Card if we gonna use him as Cryo/Physical DPS,!?
Yoimiya, ayaka, diluc, albedo you get the point
What's dragon's bane doing in Yun Jin's official flash card if she's not even pyro or need EM?
To use for underwater exploration
Aesthetic over BiS
Diluc literally uses a bloodstained greatsword in his art 💀💀
I tried running physical-build Freminet with Yun Jin (she's C6), Mika, and Fischl, and it's pretty fun for me.
another crazy thing is, from his artwork, his signature weapon is The Bell 💀
Oh yeah apparently it’s a reference to how divers use a Bell in diving. Or at least they used to.