THE REAL WRESTLING REIGN OF TERROR
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Move over Triple H, there's a new reign of terror in town. If thou thought that Triple H as the world champion seriously shuved it, you aint seen nothing yet! 6 nwa world heavyweight title reigns over 4 years, early TNA was sometimes hard to watch. The most famous wrestler to struggle due to jeff jarretts reigns was Monty Brown but would it shock your little heads to know that there were others too?
Jeff Jarrett great heel or go away heat??
Go away heat
Go away heat. Any argument one could try make otherwise is immediately negated by his immediately marrying an employee's recent ex wife
Why didn't they do anything with Matt Morgan or Tomko? I mean the jump around, gymnastic style thing is cool if you like lucha libre, but they had good big men that couldve been stars too. Also, Hernandez.
Nothing wrong with Jarrett being the face of a little Indy promotion until they could build up and create or bring in stars but he buried those guys at every opportunity. The first match with Raven being the most unforgivable.
Go away heat. People saying he was a great heel at that time didn't watch it as it was happening. Nobody tuned in to see Jarett get his ass kicked. They tuned in because TNA had talented fresh talent who were having great matches.
People tuned in to TNA to watch the talented guys have great matches, then tuned out of Jarett's segments.
“Then there was a ref bump”
Take a shot every time that happens.
Russo booking is great eh?
Bumped 1000 refs; Never-Drew-A-Dime.~
@@Deadsticle🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol'ed everytime I saw a ref bump followed by a guitar shot. The fucking cello tho 🤣
Jeff Jarrett is so odd. He was obviously a good worker, but he had a HHH connections, with a Shaun Michaels ego, X-Pac heat and a Hardcore Holly draw
Hardcore Holly draw lmao 😂
This might be the most accurate way anyone has described Double J
I actually talked to double J a few times and he was a nice enough guy. He just envisioned himself as Jerry Lawler imho and was in the position to try to make that happen. It really hurt TNA though and if had been a better businessman, he would have probably seen that the situations between he and Lawler were apples and oranges and that him out of the title picture at least some of the time and trying to build new stars could have meant more money in the long run for him as an invested owner. I didn't really like Mike Graham, but he had Jarrett pegged as far as business goes: Small brained. Not a dime! Not a dime! Just hat to throw that in there.
its weird ur all saying this...because its exactly the same way Cody Rhodes is.
He had the classic promoters kid syndrome in wrestling. Pushed to the top way too young, a regional star in a territory so he thinks he is a main event caliber draw, and then can't accept his position as an upper-mid card worker in a bigger company.
WWE: no, we're not gonna give Jeff Jarrett a push
Jarrett: fine, I'll do it myself
Jeff jarrett is a self made man...did. What he had to. Appalacian style
@@cjones3710 it helps that he was running the company, wwe's midcard are tna's top guys
@@cjones3710 there's almost a homer simpson-esque quality to his career:
He keeps getting opportunities and even succeeds at times,when there's no logical reason he should,,,
@@cjones3710 jeff jarret was never over unless it was his DADDYs territory.... that is a FACT..
He wasn't even good enough for a push in the wwf or wcw
Watching Jarrett's championship run and barely selling his opponents finishers make you respect Rock and Stone Colds overselling of each other's finishers.
But they only sold to each others, not anybody else lol.
Or Shawn Michaels vs Hulk Hogan. Shawn over sold each single move🤣
@@apurv5847 shawn got back at hogan for trying to politic his way around. Shawn is a cry baby who an ego but its understandable here.
@@I_Am_Hateful I don't think Shawn was wrong there. Shawn deserved that spotlight but Hogan is a selfish a$$ who couldn't handle others going up. That's why when he lost to Undertaker he told everyone in the locker room that Undertaker broke his neck and is unsafe inside the ring....
Not really
Jeff Jarrett really created his own promotion to put himself over as champion .
@@j.d6009 that’s right. Wait..
Jarrett is a legend!
But for the most part it worked
It takes a certain amount of self confidence and ego. JJ did miss the boat on other talent that was over which could have helped him later down the road
Wow this is a joke wasn’t into TNA much good thing I wasn’t. JJ was a good mid card performer IMO. But looks like he took the trash thrown at him as legit heel heat. Probably why I never turned on tna cause JJ just didn’t appeal to me. Had he ran with styles raven and other guys instead of his ego perhaps they’d still be around.
Truth suffered the most. Dude has always been the total package. Charisma, promo skills and an amazing unique skill set. He could fly with the best cruiserweights but had a solid physique that could pass as a heavyweight.
Yep, he looked so legit they actually gave him a program against Cena too. At least he can say he is one of the first black world champions. The NWA title is no peanuts.
Nah. Monty got it even worse than Truth Did.
@@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266
Truth is 49
@@KanishQQuotes I know, and Goldberg is past 50 and his stamina is shot
better chase the 24 champion belt forever
The fact that Jeff Jarrett had to use the belt he didn’t deserve, to shield his face from getting pelted by bottles from the crowd, is simply amazing
its wrestling its fake
good cowardly heel work from him
Timestamp??
@@clamwok shut up.
@@dree35 17:00
Man, Ron Killings went from quite possible the new face of the NWA and being regarded in the same light as Samoa Joe and AJ Styles, to being the resident "funny man" in WWE because Jarrett needed to compensate.
Jeff Jarret as a babyface champion is about as believable as Yokozuna being called a cruiserweight.
😂
😂
That cruiserweight can cruiser wait, brother
I’m guessing that was back in the Nashville fairgrounds days. About the only territory that would cheer that guy on
You have no idea how much I want to try to photoshop those images...
It also doesn’t help that Jarrett permanently looked 50 years old even in his 30s.
LOL IT'S TRUE! 🤣🤣🤣
That's in his DNA
I don't know. Hulk Hogan looked like he was 50 when he was in his 20's lol.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Like Vince it’s his house his rules But come on dude Truth was the Champ at the time. But should of known by the last days of WCW New Blood they just made a welfare version
Jeff Jarrett is one of those guys who can be described as "Thinks he a Bigger deal than he really is"
You look back it he has it all the look charisma mic work in ring talent but he did overuse his roll
Say what you will about JJ as a person or how he's been booked throughout his career, the man knows how to properly wrestle (from a technical standpoint) I would never take booking advice from him but I would totally listen to him about mat wrestling
This is when the heel is more a guy you would rather see stay home than get his ass kicked
Bit like Triple H then
Yeah. Jarrett always had good matches. And back in the 90s and early 2000s he was a good solid heel. But once he started booking himself to constantly be involved, or championship and had to be on TV for long segments every week, he had super go away heat
HHH's reign of terror was essentially a slow build to establish Randy Orton and Batista. HHH also put or tried to put over some people. Even if that last part wasn't true, Orton and Batista alone are sufficient redemption for the HHH Reign of Terror. It also helps that HHH was a legit Main Event Heel.
This - this is inexcusable. Glad that a few people got out of that hellhole still able to make a living
Very true. I'm sure Vince wanted him to remain champion too. And, it's not just the fact that Jarrett won, it's definitely how he was winning these matches. I don't think Triple H would've ever stooped so low, even if he slowly crawled to put away his opponents via pinfall
@@Joe_Parmesan So the ending of HHH vs. Booker T at WM19 was all Vince's way of burying WCW's most decorated wrestler?
@@rlouie05 I wouldn't be surprised if Booker T being a former WCW star factored into the decision, but I think it was more about Triple H remaining World Champ, at the suggestion of himself and Vince.
I've seen people suggesting the WCW factor applied with regards to Sting though.
@@Joe_Parmesan And somehow Goldberg got an elusive clean 1 vs. 1 wins against HHH interrupt this reign of terror. Chris Benoit took the belt in a triple threat & retained the WHC in a 1 vs. 1 due to Eugene.
Booker, RVD, Scott Steiner, and Kevin Nash (the latter likely didn't care about pushes by that stage of his career though) all met defining losses by Mr. Stephanie McMahon.
It was a bit of a surprise that they picked an older Batista (at the time advertised as 2 years younger than HHH) to finally pin his mentor 3 times in a row, but all that got erased too by WM35.
@@rlouie05Eh, I wouldn’t say that Triple H getting his win back fourteen years later when they’re both on their last legs and no longer main eventers erases anything. The way he put over Batista was legit. Also, Batista actively WANTED to lose to Hunter in that match. He has said so himself.
Jeff Jarrett booking himself to be the megastar that WWE knew he wasn’t.
Well said
It happens when a wrestler is owner or part owner of a promotion. It used to happen a lot back in the territory days.
I think he was just going through a mid life crisis. He was around late 30's during the time and after burning his bridges with WWE and WCW he had to do something. Combine that with an ego everybody but him says he had and being the leader in a wrestling company....yea makes sense now that you look at all that.
Let's hope Cody Rhodes doesn't get any ideas
@@AceTheSkylord at least cody was smart enough to immediately book himself so he could never challenge for the AEW title, unfortunately the same can't be said for the bucks and Omega
Jarrett's title defenses can be summed up as:
1: Ref bump.
2: Everyone and their hamster running in.
3: EL KABONG!
4: Jarrett wins and everyone groans.
5: Rinse and repeat.
I mean, this sounds like Russo booking in a nutshell, only less title changes than normal. Making everyone look like idiots is however very much a Russo move, so it still qualifies.
Let’s not forget the jarret no sells opponents special
Couldn't have said it any better haha!
Don't forget the guitar
@@charliekk3377 that's what El Kabong is, his name for the guitar shot. Also Miz does JJs finish better than him.
"He broke 10,000 guitars and never drew a dime."- Mike Graham (referring to Double J)
I think he only broke 9,999 guitars! But who’s counting?
@@mattbradley6929 Whats that gotta do with Double JJ being a terrible draw?
@@swavyypressure9417 jealousy?
I’m sorry but Mike Graham was an idiot. He was outdrawn and out worked by his father in his 40’s than Mad Mikey in his prime. Mike saying Jarrett wasn’t a draw is pot calling the kettle black action. Yet people always quote that as if Mike Graham was ever anything other than the poster child for nepotism.
The true Reign of Terror was from the AWA. The owner Verne Gagne held his own title 10 times and held it for a combined 4,677 days. When he lost the belt he would get it back a few days after. His last reign lasted almost a year but he retired. His longest reign was 2625 days from August of 68 to November of 75. Now that is a reign of terror.
Jezz that’s insane 😬😬😬
And then when he really wasn't able to Wrestle he would push his son to those spots. That guy sucked too
@@elxleonxsalas6192 Greg Gagne never won the World title but had a monopoly on the tag team and light heavyweight title. His match quality was also much, not that much, better then his fathers.
no wonder Vince Mcmahon was able to buy out all these clowns
The true terror of the AWA was pushing Rambo Greg.
I didn't watch TNA. I knew that Jarrett was pushing himself but this was just ridiculous. This was much worse than Triple H.
HHH was definitely worse
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 nah
Jarrett was more ridiculous
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 At least HHH self-deprecated himself in some angles and spots during his reign of terror, Jarrett was the unstoppable god of TNA.
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 lol at least hhh sometimes had some sorts of come uppance, this is a mix of cena and triple h
He ruined Monty Brown. His ego led him to believe he was that good.
Talk about a guy who should’ve gotten more out of his pro wrestling career. He was way over in TNA
That's gotta be the most infuriating part of this video. That was total BS how he was trying to bring Monty Brown down.
Monty Brown was like Ken Shamrock in TNA or a lesser Version of Barry Windham in the NWA. Talented guys who had the tools they needed, but were not fully invested in what they were doing. We can say what if's all day and that is fun to a certain degree, but it would be foolish to try to build heavily around someone like.
I still can't believe Monty Brown never won single title in TNA or WWE, is there a better wrestler who never won a single title?
@@DaDualityofMan Sean O'haire.
Jarrett’s run was worse because at least HHH was a believable main eventer.
Yeah, and he actually drew some money. Jeff was the main guy for a company that crashed and burned from the start. Says a lot
@@chop54321 And at least triple h actually elevated a new star to the main event scene: batista. Jarret's reign of terror benefited nobody because sting was already a main eventer and didnt need it.
@@JungleBunkRootsMusic2022 Yep. Because Jarrett was always trying to elevate himself to main event status. But no matter how long he had that belt, nobody thought he was
@@JungleBunkRootsMusic2022 And he at least let Chris Benoit get one over on him at Wrestlemania 20.
@@JungleBunkRootsMusic2022 He did elevate Christian, at least.
I'll never forgive him for how he handle Monty Brown.
That dude was fucking awesome in the ring and was pure energy.
I never "got" Monty Brown. I thought the Pounce was the dumbest, weakest finisher ever, and his character always struck me as odd. He definitely looked like a main event wrestler, but always seemed green to me.
Huge Monty Brown fan during that time he fucked him over real good
@@palaceofwisdom9448Monty Brown was a fun brute with a finisher that was supposed to be some kinda NFL tackle/hit, but yeah, that should've been a setup move at best. Marquis/Marcus Cor Von though... why?
i took a shot every time i heard "and there's a ref bump" and i think i bought some of Jarrett`s fake gold.
honest question do you hate your liver?
@@darkshadow2017 no, but my pancreas and spleen are really getting on my nerves.
@@TheJericho1123 XD
I feel like the TripleH reign of terror was just H taking advantage of the fact that Rock and Austin were gone.
That’s the sad part
And his marriage
There weren't many stars at the time apart from Booker, RVD, and Benoit on Raw.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v Benoit did not go to RAW until after the Royal Rumble
@@joselopez6990 Yes, but he was still in Raw from when he challenged for the WH Title onwards.
So this is what wrestling hell is: ref bumps, guitar and chair shots, Jeff Jarrett title reigns; ad infinitum
GUITAR SHOT
REF BUMP
KICK TO THE NUTSACK
STROKE
And Jeff loses the title for 4 months, reigns as champ for 8 months to an entire year.
Having The Stroke as a finisher didn't help Jarrett either. It's such an uninspiring move. A better, more dynamic finisher would have helped him a lot.
It's the most awkward-looking move.
A good heel finisher either has a quick set up (so they can steal a win) or looks particularly devastating. The Stroke does neither of those things
@@walksinthedarkness the RKO is a perfect example, quick, unexpected, devastating
@@woobgamer5210 And 'out of nowhere' which can be seen as being quite sneaky which is perfect for a heel.
His real finisher is a ref bump. It happens 100% of the time.
One guy owned the company other guys father in law owned the company
No surprises
Don't hate, become great
Same thing will happen to Cody & Brandy in Aew soon. A year from now the couple will hold both the division's top title.
@@kurumi9714 what about this? He said he won't challenge for the title ever again
ruclips.net/video/4P7WV2UC6l4/видео.html
@@darrengordon-hill okay suck up...
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 Nah, nobody's already doing that
The fact that both reigns of terror took place around the same time is very interesting, thank god wrestling fans had SmackDown...
Yeah til Slow Stiff Khali won the Big Gold Belt in 07 for which should've been Mark Henry instead so he can have an early Hall of Pain.
Until 2004. Smackdown started to suck after Mania that year.
I loved the reign of terror. Evolution was my favourite stable of all time!! They were a massive reason i kept watching Raw.
@@alexcasares5943 Mark Henry wasn't exactly viewed much better than Khali at that point, unfortunately. Mostly because he'd never been given anything to work with, as it turned out, but fans weren't exactly crying out for him to be in the main event.
The Hall of Pain only really worked because it came out of nowhere, he'd had time away from the screen, and almost everything else around that time was genuinely fucking diabolical (We'd just had one of the worst WrestleManias of all time, Daniel Bryan hadn't won the MITB at that point, and they were willing to take a risk on Henry because Punk and Cena were carrying everything on their own). Wouldn't have had any of those luxuries in '07.
@@dukes1993724 Smackdown was still good in 05 and 06
Personally i think R-Truth was the most damaged. He went from beign a Top Wrestler in a brand new company to became, years later, a clown in WWE. Without Jarrett he could have been the next Booker T
I agree. But at the very least, the good news about R-Truth’s current role in WWE are that (1) he’s the Ace of the 24/7 Division, (2) likely making more money than he did in TNA, and (3) he’s surprisingly close to Vince McMahon.
Rtruth said he loves his role in wwe
@@waltersocie4434 No surprise. He might be in great shape (easily better than me), but he's almost 50, so the limited segments allows him to shine and keep his career going longer. Plus unlike in TNA, he has mainstream exposure with the WWE (R-Truth has defended the 24/7 Championship on the sports shows).
He's also well-liked by everyone. And from what I heard, Brock Lesnar wants to do another comedy segment with R-Truth.
@@tsaicho yeah last year when our truth signed a five-year deal with WWE somebody asked him what Twitter why don't you go to aew or back to Impact Wrestling you'll be treated better
@@tsaicho then or truth responded nope he says I want to retire in a WWE and I plan on staying here he said it doesn't matter if the only titles he wins is a 24/7 title but he said he loves performing for wwe fans
The first win over Styles, the first win over Raven, and the second win over Monty Brown might be more egregious than any Hogan, Cena, or Triple H match.
Monty Brown got screwed the most. Ron Killings second. At least Ron Killings had the 3LK thing going on. I liked that back in the day.Monty had fuck all after he lost.
Monty had some good charisma I think he had the look the company could have used to grow
@@simoncobian2816 I agree. At that time he had the makings of main event guy. I feel him and Ron could have done a good story line with the belt on the line. Starting off as a respectable match between two black wrestlers who came from nothing. And made it to the top. Despite people trying to hold them back their whole lives. Then it could have spiraled off with one being a true heel etc.
Ref bumps. Run ins. And guitar shots.
TNA's main event scene in a nutshell
Russo in a nutshell
Vince russos dumb booking because he’s too stupid to come up with a good story lines.
Don't forget no sells.
Lol damn 🤣
Run ins started way back for russo which was wcw
Jeff Jarrett: *booked to wrestle*
Ref: "hehe...I'm in danger"
Was that a Ralph Wigums joke? If so, well played.
I think this one of the only few times where I can agree with the crowd disrespecting the wrestlers. Jarret owned (if does own it still say so please) the company and built it around himself. HE RUINED 3 LEGACIES AND NEARLY CRUSHED 2 OTHERS
I legit forgot how much I hated Jeff Jarrett when all this was going on.
lol i'll never forget how much i hate him, same reason i dont like cody & aew
So he sucked so much that he made you forget how much he sucked with his horrible buckshot? I mean thats just.... mind shattering. Jarret is the worst ever.
@@OongTheLastAirbender except cody puts people over and AEW is extremely watchable. More so than WWE at least.
@@brandonpatterson7570 extremely watchable? im done dont bother replying back lol
@@OongTheLastAirbender solid argument. Just say you're a WWE shill and be done with it.
Thankfully I got into TNA when I heard Christian debuted and I missed the vast majority of this BS. I'd heard Jarrett used to book himself as a main attraction but I had no idea it was this bad.
christian kinda did the same thing tho. Tried to force people into thinking hes a main eventer
@@darylhall2198 He didn't try to force anything, he just wasn't being utilised in WWE as he, and everyone else, felt he should have been. He has everything you look for in a main eventer - charisma as a face, great heel work, excellent mic skills, and great story-telling and technique in the ring. Every main event match he was in was a great match and well deserving of the top of the card spot. At least Vince eventually saw a bit of sense and had him feuding for the world title with Randy when he got back to the main roster on Smackdown, cause it's what everyone wanted.
@@Zombies8MyPizza Imo he was a star when he had the long hair and was wearing the cool hats. When he got to tna he just looked too normal to be a main eventer.
Bruh I’m telling you I was
Romance girl
Jeff’s Reign of Terror can pretty much be summed up in, “then there was a ref bump.”
Like all of his main event matches. It was already ridiculous in WCW.
Easily can played "Boney M - Do You Wanna Bump" when the ref bump was happen.
Ref bump
Guitar shot
1-2-3
It’s really surreal to think about some alternate reality where R Truth went on to have a long and illustrious career as a big player in wrestling, instead of going to more of a comedic role in WWE. Either way, he seems happy where he is and I’m happy for him. If that’s where he wants to be, good on him
You can sum up most 2000s JJ TNA matches as "Then there was a ref bump, and then Jarrett hit The Stroke and won"
That and interference from half the roster.
You forgot the guitar...
Jeff Jarrett: smasher of guitars, evader of dimes
Broke 6000 of them
👏😁👍
When Raven and AJ Styles were champion those were somewhat refreshing days especially with Raven. I liked Ravens reign
Ah Raven's title reign.... the time when TNA was not on TV and everything was week to week webshows
Oh yeah and the first show on spike about about how Jarret screwed him out of the belt and I was like wait raven was champ and I missed it? I was soooo pissed
Raven was ON FIRE during his chase to winning the world title. Then TNA screwed it up by killing all his momentum after he won the belt.
@@joemacgillis8229 His matches with abyss and rhino were insanee!
@@joemacgillis8229 I heard they killed his momentum because he buried Jeff Jarrett to Dixie. Jeff buried him for the rest of the time he was there which was about 5-6 years.
While I do agree that HHH's run at the top was do to his connection with the McMahon family, a lot of people seem to forget that he had won the title at least once, if not twice before he started dating Stephani. So yes I think it was extended because of that, but that isn't how it started. And the only reason JJ got the title in TNA was because he was the owner.
Hold up I just started watching the video Jeff survived ALL of that from Raven?.......That is probably the most RIDICULOUS finish I have ever heard....how in the world was anyone okay with that? That type of finish would put freaking Hogan to shame Triple H look like a peasant and Cena blush. Man I hope it doesn’t get worse from here
Super jarrett
@@Markyd123 more like Super Duper Jarret
Was Russo booking this ?
@@Aj6711, of course
@@AUM_-po9sc vince “what the fuck” russo.
TNA: "what have we learned from the death of WCW? Absolutely nothing!"
It's a miracle that company hasn't died at any of the 12 million times it could have
It's like they didn't even know wcw existed
Don't Hire Vince Russo
@@yourBrainOnDrugs especially Hogan and Bischoff
Don’t let a simpleton like Dixie Carter run your company.
Watches Hogan use his creative control to destroy WCW.
Jarret: “hold my guitar”
Both were enabled by Russo it seems
@@Shredkowski Hogan was an Eric Bischoff guy who was originally a Vince McMahon guy. Hogan's political acumen combined with his excellent timing of becoming the big guy served him well and got himself perks other wrestlers would never have dreamed of.
Russo hated Hogan. There's a reason why Hogan sued Vince Russo after he left WCW in 1999 after Russo went into business with himself after betraying Bischoff and Hogan and then burying Hogan.
My favorite part was 11:12 when Hardy and Russo are fighting over the super dangerous bat while it obviously bends and wobbles like a piece of rubber.
DRINKING GAME: Take a shot every time you hear the words "Ref bump".
Dawg this would ruin so many people's livers from alcohol poisoning
Alcohol poisoning is a real thing brother.
You'd be Scott Hall by the end of the video.
@@Vesperitis Dude nooooo 😂😂😂
Or “guitar shot“.
I could never understand why JJ was always the champ whenever I watched TNA on the Wrestling Channel on Sky TV, but later I learned he was an owner.
And that his friend was doing the booking. The fact that Russo figured he'd continue the meta crap from the WCW days by putting himself on air is quite baffling, really. All the interference and ref bumps and the ref ignoring the use of outside objects is textbook Russo.
And the fact that Jarrett went along with that is testament to how poorly suited he was to running that company.
@@mirage5566 I agree, I think JJ is a good worker, but a mid card worker at best, definitely no main event, and speaking of crossovers, when hall and Nash returned to the wwe it would have been call for Diesel and Razor Ramon to return as well, shame how it all went really, in all honesty I wish wcw was still around to keep the healthy competition 😉
at least verne gagne could wrestle
Same, when I discovered TNA on the wrestling channel, every time I watched he was champ.
I couldn't have worded this better myself. Whenever I watched early TNA as a kid, I loved most of the product, but HATED JJ. I could never understand why the promotion kept putting him in the main event.
Jeff jarrett was so overrated Triple H actually looked like a main event star Jeff looked like a mid-carder his entire career
HHH could destroy you, so yeah I agree with your analysis.
As Schlegdaddy always called him, “A Memphis Midcard Piece Of Shit” lol
Yup, Jarret always looked mid to low card.
@Solid Snake His gimmick with the guitar was trash too. How tf can you take someone like that serious? It was a toned down version of Honky Tonk Man. And Elias is way better at his own gimmick. He needed to rebuild his image altogether, his in-ring skills weren't bad.
Jarrett was in the HBK's shadow in the new generation and Stone Cold's un the Attitude Era
43-year-old, untrained Russo can stand his ground against 32-year-old, athletic Ron Killings in a fight? I guess Russo is literally in-vince-able. Ba-dumm tss.
I shouldn't have laughed at this comment.......but I definitely did lol
@@provinggroundswrestling9039 Mission accomplished then. 😁👍
There were match in WCW which include Scott Steiner, Sting, Jared, Kevin Nash, Russo. Then came Goldberg destroyed everyone before Russo stop him
@@nikeneon3188 Well, it happens when the booker puts himself in matches. I mean, he even won the world title. 🤦♀
This really makes John Cena beating Nexus seem not that bad. I never watched TNA, but this would have been rough.
To be fair, even if Cena put the Nexus over at SummerSlam, many of the Nexus guys would flop as the next big things. For example: Wade Barrett was heavily injury prone, Skip Sheffield/Ryback was a very reckless worker, Michael Tarver was overall forgettable, Heath Slater was a comedy mid-carder, David Otunga was terrible in the ring and Justin Gabriel was a cruiserweight casuals didn't give a damn about. It's pretty much safe to say that Cena did not screw the Nexus. It was the Nexus who screwed the Nexus.
Cena did kill a generation of wrestlers with one angle.
@@Takerfan-nr5bk without him they would have at least had a shot.
@@Takerfan-nr5bk I know what you are saying but they literally had 0 chance after that match. It completely killed them all. Even edge and Jericho said they should go over and I swear Cena has even admitted they should have too.
@@Takerfan-nr5bk Cena's selfishness still did screw over The Nexus no matter the context. Like he did with a lot of wrestlers that definitely do have potential with the business. Let's not soften up the blow here.
The thing with HHH was, he looked and talked like a main eventer, and his in ring work was as good as anybodies at the time. At least amongst the smatteting of burials there were good matches and good segments.
Jeff Jarret was merely indulging his own ego. Sure he could work OK, and he could sometimes cut a decent promo, but I always looked at him as a mid card heel at best. And he did it well. Never a main eventer.
I always thought that HHH was just lacking the charisma of the Rock or Stone Cold..
@@16rumpole Definitely. His in-ring work wasn't really as entertaining as Rock or Austin, either. It was very plodding and workman-like. His mic work also didn't come close to Austin or Rock and it felt like he would just brag about himself or insult others in a straightforward way (and Rock did a very accurate impression of how droning and boring HHH's mic work could be, lol). He did have a good look and I do think his "The Game" theme when he got it definitely made him feel like more of a main eventer but he ultimately made his chops on being the guy who kept screwing the Rock and sometimes Austin.
I also think that pairing up with Stephanie (both in real life and in story) and getting to work more closely with her and Vince as part of the McMahon family helped him since those two were actually better heels than him in terms of playing a character. It was fun to hate Vince and Stephanie. HHH though always gave me this nagging feeling that he was jealous of Rock and Austin in real life and that some of the things he said (especially towards Rock) weren't just a work.
@@megavolt67 he was slightly envious of rock.rock was oozing charisma.triple h worked good as a heel but rock and austin could like work the crowd like crazy.he tried branching out into movies (blade 3) but his lack of charisma failed him there.rock at his core is a showman.plus triple h always rode off on the tailcoat of better charismatic wrestlers like shawn michael.His career wouldve stumped if it werent for his hard work ethic and his marriage.you could see him trying to put himself on the map or in matches where he shouldnt belong.not to mention the burying.
I see Dolph Ziggler every time when looking at Jarret.
Evolution was the reason why alot of people watched RAW at the time. They were amazing heels. If Krispin Wah didn't do what he did, he would've been seriously elevated. Come on his Rumble and Mania run was phenomenal!
That superkick conchairto is genuinely one of the coolest things I've seen and I upset that it was treated like it was nothing
For real
Reminds us of Cena still winning that Nexus vs. WWE match even after eating a DDT on concrete.
what’s a conchairto?
@@rlouie05 At least Cena regretted it.
@@AnsticePalo There's a reason why none of the Nexus are still wrestling today, but at the same time, Daniel Bryan might've smartly choked Justin Roberts on purpose to get himself out of the group for all we know.
"A largely unforgettable match against Kevin Nash." That pretty much describes Nash's entire career.
If the quote was "largely forgettable" then yes, 100% agree.
Nash was a part of the hottest stable of the mid to late 90s.
@@dilungmoveityafool777 Name me an iconic Kevin Nash match
@@actualturtle2421 The Finger Poke of Doom match with Hollywood Hogan.
@@actualturtle2421IYH - good friends better enemies vs HBK, Vs Bret at Survior Series 95 and KOR 94, w/HBK vs 123 Kid and Razor Ramon are all classics
Ron Killings, Monty Brown, Raven, Rhyno, all guys that deserved decent runs without being made to look less. Two older with some star power, and two new stars that coulda led the company into later years to feud and build AJ, Daniels, and company.
Yep, Truth and Monty felt like legit next big things. It's a shame their careers got derailed because of JJ
rhyno was 30 years old in 2005...
The reaction he got for his last win is pure gold. That's nuclear heat like you just don't see anymore
That wasn't "nuclear heat" that was "go away heat"... Much different
@@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind Nope. They came back to see him
I mean I watch Baron Corbin at his peak, so I've seen go away heat already. Copying the Montreal Screwjob for the thousandth time is just the work of a master clearly /s
@@Yoni123massive go away heat. Good god he somehow had an ego worse than hulk hogan
@@JulioMendoza-up1pv Nah
Early TNA was so much fun and so exciting...then there was everything Jeff Jarrett was ever a part of. I basically skipped the main events during this whole era.
Ya and if you add on Jarrett’s lame WCW titles before TNA, there was way too much Jarrett as world champion and it just wasn’t believable!! 🙄 I also skipped a lot of the Jarrett matches from back in those days!!
"Owen I'm praying for you buddy"
- Jeff Jarrett
That's the best line he's ever said cause it was genuine and real
"Even the belt hanging device was against Jarret winning the belt" that's so funny lol
That should have make him rethink everything.
The one who suffered most was Jarrett himself. He made himself a household name in wrestling for all the wrong reasons as a result of this. I actually stopped watching TNA for about 3 years because of this stupidity.
I know and I kinda liked him before that
Rhino as champion wouldn't have kept you watching
@@darrengordon-hill nobody likes a suck up...
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 Say hi to nobody
I still don’t believe Jeff Jarrett is a household name
With Triple H, his reign was piss but at the bare minimum he least looked like he belonged on a main event stage. And most importantly his reign of terror helped create two new stars (Orton and especially Batista) so it had some long lasting benefit to the company after the fact.
Jarrett was a solid worker, but he was a midcard level talent and never felt like he belonged on the big stage especially presented as THE guy of the company. And he helped literally nobody in his reign, as the guy who ended his reign (Sting) was already a legend before entering TNA/
As much as Triple H gets dunked on for the Reign of Terror on RAW, I am going to play Devil's Advocate and explain why it was not as bad compared to Double J.
1. RAW's main event scene was off to a bad start when Triple H was awarded the Big Gold Belt. Stone Cold had retired, The Rock went to Hollywood, and Undertaker was a Smackdown exclusive superstar. Those left on RAW for Triple H to feud with were guys like RVD, Booker T, Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner, Goldberg, Kane and HBK. Only Kane and HBK were "made" by the WWE, and we all know how badly Vince treats talent that he never made himself. Of course he was not going to make guys like RVD or Goldberg look strong.
2. Triple H may have strings to pull cause of his marriage to Stephanie McMahon, in the end, it's Vince who gets the final say in anything. Unlike Jeff Jarrett, who literally owns the company, so in that comparison, it would be like if Vince puts the belt on himself 5 times. Yes, we know Vince gave himself the championship, but it was not a long reign (6 days, albeit he vacated the title, so he was never pinned nor made to tap out), and it was for selling a storyline. Plus, Vince is more than willing to sell his body to make a star, something which is kind of lacking in Jarrett's feuds.
3. At the very end, the Reign of Terror made stars out of Randy Orton and Batista. Orton is a strange case, as the initial babyface push failed to gain momentum, but he was able to recover from it and develop his Viper persona years later. The rub planned for Orton went to Batista, who was able to get over organically by being himself, and benefitted from Orton's botched push. That could have been Monty Brown or Ron Killings getting the Batista treatment if the finishes were clean, but of course, Double J had to pull the rug from under them cause reasons.
Very good comment :)
Hunter buried Randy Orton. As for Batista, Dave was ultimately shipped back to Smackdown and Hunter was on top again like none of it ever happened. The fact that HHH was never on Smackdown himself is beyond ridiculous, but I was always glad that it kept him from tainting the show that was wrestling driven rather than long promos.
Only thing I disagree with this comment was how you said Randy’s viper persona got the momentum… if anything I think his career was saved when he began a rivalry with the Undertaker from Wrestlemania then he was was drafted to Smackdown and how they kept it going.
They both can be considered bad.
@@Eddy25 Maybe that was worded poorly. I meant that Orton used being kicked out of Evolution as a primary basis for developing his Viper character, especially once he started feuding with Triple H after revitalizing his career on Smackdown. I definitely agree Orton was not ready to be a babyface then, since he had a reputation as a douche both in and out of the ring, even though WWE trusted him enough to award him the Big Gold Belt (not to mention the youngest World Heavyweight Champion at that time).
Jeff Jarrett made sure RAW won the Monday night “wars”
As someone who never watched TNA regularly, and would regularly complain about RAW, who knew it could be worse?
Jeff Jarrett is a pretty big hint on its own.
Tna was still good when wwe was falling off
This run combines all the worst parts of Triple H's reign of terror and Cena's superman run. Jeff and his father have the blood of many careers on their hands. Had they booked things better they may have never needed Dixie Carter
Take a shot when:
1. Ref bumb
2. Guitar shot
3. Slap in the nuts
4. Crowd brawl
5. Interference/run in
6. Jeff no sells a move
7. Jeff wins the world title
Jeff Jarrett was the reason why I never got into TNA. Shit was terrible.
It did get better with Christian and Kurt Angle.
@@paulprimus1666 he didn't care or bother to watch.. Anyone who ever watched TNA knows Jarrett was gone or not on television during TNAs best times.. Just another guy who heard how shitty Jarrett booked himself
@@grammysworld5449 Well, that's exactly the problem with Jarrett's reign. TNA had a momentum during the Jarrett era because people wanted something else than what WWe was offering. A lot of people saw Jarrett as the main eventer time and time again. It gave the impression that the best TNA had to offer was Jeff Jarrett. For this reason, over time, the enthusiam for TNA faded. Then, it's kinda hard for someone who has watched TNA during the Jarrett era to go back to TNA. Who goes back to watching a show they've seen in the past and just wasn't good enough to be worth it?
@@TheFlamingPike Not really.. People just saw Jarrett as doing what every guy who had the book did.. While I agree him going away from the style his father (and he himself) got success was a stupid move.. But just about everyone who knew Jeff's role in the company knew he was going to book himself that way.. Even 12 year old me hearing about this new TNA wrestling show on ppv using the NWA title knew what it was going to be when I saw Jarretts name on that banner
Perception wasn't the same as it is now.. TNAs undercard has almost always outshined the main event Except the Styles,Angle Bully Ray, and MAYBE bobby Roodes run..
Sting, Christian, Jeff Hardy etc were getting outworked by the tag division, the X division, and rarely the women's division.. TNA had the same problem whether Jeff was there or not: Screwy finishes in the main event that got nobody over.. The mid card was the only thing that was decent until those same guys would end up getting screwy finishes when they got to the main event
Markyd: I'll hit you with a brick.
Slapnuts: I'll hit you with a guitar.
At least HHH looks like a convincing champion. It’s believable that he was able to beat so much people albeit with heel tactics. Jeff is no Hunter.
Nah, Hunter is overrated too. Hunter is a great worker, but aside from his look he never deserved the runs he had. He benefited from being pals with Shawn and Vince having a boner for him. And being married with Steph too.
Agreed.
What I never got with Jeff Jarrett is, he used that guitar in damn near every match. Why didn't anyone ever say, "You are banned from bringing the guitar or anything other than the belt out!"? At least with Triple H, he got his sledgehammer from under the ring. Also why did none of the refs ever go, "Why are there wooden fragments all over the ring?" It was just such a stupid brain dead gimmick, that pushed suspension of disbelief beyond any possible threshold.
"Jeff has a map of all the places to sell fake gold to"
You said it best “he’s a good heel who can hang with the main eventers but not someone to build a company around” or something of the like! 🙂
People can be built to be main eventers. Jarrett in TNA was an example of how not to do it. He had glimpses of brilliance they could have built on, but went w/Russo style booking
Because JJ was a part owner of the company, he kept using his influence
You know, I watch a bunch of Jim Cornette's videos because I find him hilarious a lot of the time and even agree with a lot of his criticisms but one thing I just can't possibly understand is his appreciation for Jarrett. I watched TNA back in the day when this reign of terror was in full effect and I hated it, it was beyond frustrating. I just wanted to watch some fun x-division matches but everything else was just shit and Jarrett was a huge reason for that.
For someone that Cornette says is a so called master of wrestling psychology, I don't see anything of the sort especially with him kicking out of everything, burying all the young guys and keeping himself on top in what was essentially his own company. Sure, Hogan and the other washed up old, wrinkly assholes that showed up later thanks to horrendous management sank the ship but Jarrett wasn't much better. And I know you like Russo but I consider him to be a worse version of slapnuts. At least old slapnuts could work.
Well at least the rest of the show was very watchable back then.
This is the biggest abuse of power in the wrestling industry. The guy booked himself to be champ all the time. I never knew how bad it was until watching this. Now you have Cody in AEW, one of the hottest stars, booked his first world title match against Chris Jericho and if he lost he'd never challenge for the world title again. And he lost. Now yes Cody could overturn this one day but at the very least he isn't constantly going after the belts.
If I owned my own wrestling company, and only if I could get myself over with the fans, would I book myself in the world title scene. If I could pull it off yeah I'd put the world title on myself, for like 100 days, then drop it and never try again. I'd rather just book myself in a history making hell in the cell match.
In my case lose it in a Hell of a Cell type Match to make the victory memorable.
@@lewisaino There ya go. You can book yourself well if the fans like you, but you can't be "The Guy" for 4-5 years straight.
@@KingsNerdCave In the end people hate monotony.
You can book yourself to be the champ if you really are over with the fans, but I don't believe even when he did have a few fans on his side, that he really was ever "over" with them. Same in WCW.
Jarett harmed the product as champion despite people trying to defend it as "heel heat".
People were already being fed a reign of terror in WWE, the last thing they needed was a poor knock off reign of terror.
As you highlighted many times, there were guys who could have carried the company instead of Jarett who would have been much fresher. How many times did they pull the rug out from AJ when he could easily have led the company?
I actually followed the product from its inception when I caught it randomly on AXS where I am. I enjoyed the talent I never got to see on WWE like Styles, Daniels, AMW, Sabin etc. but everytime Jarett came on screen, I groaned since his main event matches were always average compared to the classic matches.
Early TNA ppv's (not the weekly ones) were Jarett's matches being utterly forgettable while other stars shined. Turning point 2004 was all about Triple X vs AMW. Final resolution's standout match was the ultimate X match, not Jarett burying Monty. Against all odds 2005 was about Styles vs Daniels, not Jarett vs Nash and so on.
Despite Jarett putting himself in the main event for all those PPVs except turning point 2004, nobody would say that the reason they tuned in was to see Jarett. So for those sucking Jarett's cock about him being a great heel, you clearly weren't watching the product back then to know how much people didn't want to see Jarett. The boos he got was people who wanted him to be gone.
At the time AJ had the skills but his promos were shit
There was a fine line that barley didn't get crossed with Double J killing the business.
What ever happened to the Big Gold Belt? That was the most beautiful belt ever made.
Lesnar didn’t want 2 belts so they threw it in the trash
They just kind of...got rid of it after Lesnar won the titles. But they made a new 2nd world title but didn’t bring back the World Heavyweight title for some reason.
It wasn't beautiful...it was sexy. All gold, no blemish.
Probably in the WWE archives, sad too, the big gold belt, the wwe undisputed world title, the current IWGP Heavyweight title, the dragon gate open the dream gate title and the big eagle wwf title belts are my favorite designs ever
Big Gold was definitely the nicest. I really liked the TNA belt around the time Cowboy and Roode had it as well
11:12 good job guys on hiding how bendy that totally real bat is.
At least HHH had some memorable matches...
who care Jeff Jarrett is better
@Heavy Metal Collector I disagree
@@samuraibeastwarrior2886 HHH vs Mankind Hell in a Cell match though???
@Xavier Leon I still say Jeff better
@Xavier Leon i disagree
Of course Slap Nuts is gonna put himself over. He created TNA after all.
And that's how you end up peddling fake gold to people instead of managing a wrestling company
@ً yes Jarrett was a terrible businesswoman.
Even if you are the best you will get crap if you book yourself to be champ but I almost forgot just how bad Jarrett booked himself
@ً yours sounds like a mark response
I like that name Slap Nuts
Monty Brown could have been the face of TNA the guy had it all!
And was underutilized in WWE as Marcus Cor Von
@@fabiocaceres5193 Not gonna lie, his WWECW entrance theme was kinda cool.
Hat wasn't Jarrett's fault that was all on Christian. He was the one who leapfrogged over Brown to win the belt
@@mikeking4349 Jeff definitely had a chance to drop the belt to him.
I barely watched TNA but when I did I was drawn to him. He really did have it all
Fun fact: Jeff Jarrett has been NWA champion longer than Terry Funk, Sting, Dusty Rhodes, Ricky Steamboat, Kerry Von Erich and Barry Windham combined.
100% stunted TNA's initial growth. If it weren't for the X division, they probably wouldn't have taken off at all.
TNA was top at that time. It went down after his retirement.
I will never understand how people call Cody the new Jeff Jarrett when Cody hasn’t done any bs like this
Because they think he will do it someday even though he lost the title to darby and doesn't even own aew lol😂😂😂😂 these wwe fanboys need to stop
Im sure the only reason he doesnt do it is because he knows how much wrestling fans hated Jeff and Paul pushing themselves. He still have shades of it with him having extravagant entrances of normal shows or when he faced Shaq and basically no sold Shaq's slam. Plus tries too hard to look badass (hence his terrible neck tattoo).
@@kratoscar2008 dude that's his job you need to look cool the only problem is his entrance he has a larger entrance then everyone on aew's roster combined
@@geleneceline2310 Heh it comes off as self fellating. Moxley I buy it but not Cody.
Yet
Double J was NEVER a main event wrestler.The fact that both WCW AND TNA put the 🌎 heavyweight championship on a mid card guy.And tried to make him a serious title contender. Makes as much sense as WWE making Jinder Mahal WWE champion.
Jinder as champion was,I believe,100% a publicity stunt for the Saudi Arabia deal.....even though....you know....he isnt Arabian,or even Indian
@@thunderguyer That's what makes it worse.Jinder is 🇨🇦 and WWE somehow thought "Jinder has Indian roots let's make him our champ for a non-existent 🇮🇳 fanbase"
@@RobertJones-si6pi No, you're right; make Jinder the face of Canada, and fuck the BILLIONS of people in India, of which millions are WWE fans, which is why "NXT India/Superstar Spectacular" are things.
Ron Killings?
Cruiserweight AJ??
The guy in AMW that's not James Storm?
Who would've done a better job?
😭😭😭
Well there is one positive trait to both Jarrett and triple H, the game and my world are bangers of themes
HHH’s themes with moterhead are top notch, but then again it’s hard to have a bad theme with Lemmy involved
@@simoncobian2816 amen to that, in the wise words of airheads, lemmy is god
They started off so good. Pushing new stars like AJ Styles, Ron Killings, and Low Ki. They even had likable vets like Raven, Jerry Lynn, and Ken Shamrock. Then it all went to hell fast.
Take a shot every time he says "Ref Bump."
Even when watching as a kid I was rooting for everyone except Jarrett. His heel character was basically his real life personality - greed and narcissism.
Gotta disagree with you there, Jarrett by all accounts is a pretty nice dude in real life.
@@jamesb1988 I agree. This reign of terror was terrible but I've never seen someone with a bad word to say about Jeff and he always comes off as a pretty good dude
@@purestformofpeaceGood dudes don't bury careers of other talent.
The ones that suffered the most was the referees!!
Refs constantly got pounce, gored & sometimes more than 1 bump in a single match.. Woe
“That doesn’t work for me, slapnuts!”
Fun fact: I've never ever met a Jeff Jarrett fan in my entire life..
I'm a fan of him
I actually like him for some innate earnestness that he has. As a heel he was super easy to hate, so he was doing his job well. Surprised to see the baby-face reign at the beginning here
Yeaaah.. I absolutely cannot stand this guy. He was a menace lol
@@chicomac8450 but he better than John Cena Cena is a cancer
Deadass me neither. Of all the friends and some adversaries that I have played wrestling games with, NONE of them chose Double J, not even as a troll pick.
Jeff Jarrett in TNA was basically Vince McMahon power, Hulk Hogan ego, and a Billy Gunn star power.. but nevertheless he’s still a Hall of Famer so props to him
Ha! "Billy Gunn star power" is a brutal insult.
Jeff Jarrett's ego so big that it nearly killed his company lol.
@Fazal Khan mark response: even Randy put over Jinder)))
Which one? Lol
@ً you sound like the mark making excuses for how terrible tna was.
Russo killed the company.
Imagine being a WCW fan crushed by WCWs booking and self destruction and then you turn to TNA thinking you're in for a treat, but then you see Vince Russo debut and you see he's back on his bullsheeet
Russo didn't do a bad job in TNA. He was writer/booker in TNA's best times.
@@silviamarquesfankanal1463 I'm talking about how disgruntled fans must've felt upon seeing his (TV character) shenanigans again in a new company,
I enjoyed TNA when they debuted on spike until the Hogan era
@@silviamarquesfankanal1463 Russo was terrible. He thought he was on the Mr McMahon level of super heel.
@@valioma9108 Back in the day we didn't know Russo killed WCW. For us he was just an on-screen character. For us Vince McMahon killed WCW. There was no internet back in the day and we had not much clue about what was really going on behind the back.
@@silviamarquesfankanal1463 you’re wrong. Tna was never good it had some good matches here and there but its always had some bullshit going on no matter what period of tna we talk about.
I still say Monty Brown suffered the worst as he was practically 05 Batista with the crowd on his side like crazy and he just jobbed hard so bad that he turned heel. Worst decision TNA has done up until Hogan-Bischoff era
Schlegdaddy : * Breathes heavily * ASSUME JEFF JARRETT POSITION!!!!!!!!
Loved that back in the day
This wasn’t just a Reign of Terror. It was a Reign of Terror and a Super Cena. I didn’t even realize he had the insane baby face push. Overcoming the odds only works in moderation. Stone Cold didn’t have to overcome odds to beat Taker in 98, and he occasionally got dicked over, which made things better when he won
At least Mr. McMahon added spice.
The difference is that stone cold and la roca did not have a roster full of wrestlers that are maint eventers material. Most had gone to WCW (nash, hall, hart, randy savage, luger).
Cena, for his part, was new to the company and came to the main event in 3 years with other wrestlers who had been around for a longer time and he was not given the world title at his best (booker T, RVD, Steiner, Cristian, etc ..)
But if they had been in the Cena shoes, they might have given stone cold or the rock a Mega push over others wrestlers.
Overcoming odds was an ok thing to do back in the day when wrestling was for kids, and hell overcoming odds had us just Hulk Hogan winning against Andre was nearly impossible. Once the eras changed in the 90s & the demographics switched, that shit didn't fly.
@@astralsupremo Wot? Stone Cold's era was stock full of main eventers: The Rock, HHH, Mick Foley, Undertaker, Kane, Kurt Angle, Jericho. These are all time greats.
When he use a cello, I was dying. 😂😂😆😆
At least Braun played it when he used one lol
@@jasonrunion614 Right.. 😂
I started watching WWF back in like 98 so the only reason I know about JJ is because he used to play a wife beater character. That's all I remember about him😂
Jeff Jarrett couldn’t draw money if you gave him a green crayon!
Lol
Oh this is too good.
JAJAJSHSHS LMAOOO
He broke 6000 guitars, never drew a dime.