Is Calcharo Still Tier 0 After These "Nerfs"? | Yinlin Buffs Incoming!?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @TimaeuSS
    @TimaeuSS  6 месяцев назад +47

    Jianxin Guide and Calcharo Guide both in the kitchen...
    Some viewers also wanted a Lingyang guide? Hmmmm
    EDIT: To clarify, those "nerfs" are post media server and present at release. If I had to guess, this is due to Calcharo + YinLin combo being too damn strong. This way, they can make YinLin stronger and deserving of a limited banner character while maintaining the power level of the duo.

    • @soundsOf75
      @soundsOf75 6 месяцев назад

      my current team is both of them with verina so I need that the most 🙏

    • @Jayuki
      @Jayuki 6 месяцев назад +1

      we need a solo danjin guide

    • @Willd_Hunt3r
      @Willd_Hunt3r 6 месяцев назад

      I hope that is the reason. As long as they don't destroy the duo's power level and synergy, it's good.

    • @prophetmuhammad3890
      @prophetmuhammad3890 6 месяцев назад

      i dont think the duo is what they intended to do.
      Seems like they want Yinlin to be main DPS if the utility is gone.

    • @ZZenjinn
      @ZZenjinn 6 месяцев назад

      Jianxin guide please!! dps and sub dps guides

  • @playamusa
    @playamusa 6 месяцев назад +160

    Anything pre release should never really be considered as a "nerf". It should always just be a rework.

    • @dasumi
      @dasumi 6 месяцев назад +17

      Semantics

    • @Xierdia_15
      @Xierdia_15 6 месяцев назад +11

      Nahh, it should be called "adjustments"

    • @dasumi
      @dasumi 6 месяцев назад +6

      Nah, it should be called “re-alignment”

    • @byeguyssry
      @byeguyssry 6 месяцев назад +12

      It's a nerf compared to the pre-release version. It's not wrong. It very quickly conveys to people to see the news that Calcharo is weaker than he was in the past

    • @TacticalDimples
      @TacticalDimples 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@byeguyssry that’s not how it works. Nerfs/buffs only apply after something is fully realized. Changes happen all the time during the testing process.

  • @Doctor_Yiggles
    @Doctor_Yiggles 6 месяцев назад +66

    Not sure I'd consider it a nerf when it is a difference between a beta and a launch. It was rebalance for the live version and full release version. But so far I've been doing well with Calcharo. Looking forward to Yinlin.

    • @TimaeuSS
      @TimaeuSS  6 месяцев назад +7

      I think calc still one of the strongest main dps with high skill ceiling. And yea for players at release this is the version we got rather than “nerf” if they didn’t play cbt
      I do hope YinLin gets a boost out of this tho

    • @MrVhatever
      @MrVhatever 6 месяцев назад +5

      He wasn't "rebalanced" he was nerfed. It's really not coplicated how anyone upvotes your semantic garbage is insane. how many kuro games employees I wonder?

    • @Zythroxes
      @Zythroxes 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@MrVhateveran unreleased version got reworked, it's pretty simple.

  • @saiavabel6076
    @saiavabel6076 6 месяцев назад +18

    Regen nerf isnt much. because before characters shared 30% energy with other but now its 50% . Really good for burst dps and burst hunger people like jiyan

  • @Zackery97490
    @Zackery97490 6 месяцев назад +6

    Appreciate the content. As a viewer, I would be interested in a pre-release yinlin guide for anyone who is looking to pre-farm before her release. I feel that content in that regard is currently lacking, but I get that most people are waiting to see if her numbers change.

    • @TimaeuSS
      @TimaeuSS  6 месяцев назад +2

      I’m sure Kuro will start drip marketing and reveal kits in early June perhaps. I’m hopefully Yinlin gets the buff to compensate for the calc changes

  • @justjuniorjaw
    @justjuniorjaw 6 месяцев назад +5

    Yay Jianxin AND Calcharo guide? Yeah baby! I'm currently demoting my Jianxin out of my team in favor for Jiyan as he's far more comfy to use and is a proper main DPS but I still think she'll be useful as a sub DPS and pseudo support.
    And Calcharo? Bros straight up Sephiroth, I ain't leaving him out.

  • @redcloud0
    @redcloud0 6 месяцев назад +2

    Yes it's a very helpful video so keep them coming🙏🏽

  • @reo5001
    @reo5001 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great video! 100% interested in those guides 🎉. Keep up the great work!

  • @ardee9337
    @ardee9337 6 месяцев назад +7

    Then wouldn't that mean that Yinlin's tier would also drop? She's tier 0 because she deals strong on and off field damage while being a crazy buffer for Electro characters namely Calcharo in 1.0
    If she loses that utility as a buffer, wouldn't that make her more viable to be just the main DPS instead rather than a perfect partner for Electro characters? And if she does fall into a main DPS role is her damage as crazy as Jiyan?

    • @TimaeuSS
      @TimaeuSS  6 месяцев назад +3

      This is part of the reason why some CN players are looking for a Yinlin buff. She can potentially be the main dps and allow room for calc or others to be sub dps

    • @prophetmuhammad3890
      @prophetmuhammad3890 6 месяцев назад +3

      @fuyukiryujin3723 I mean. It doesnt affect Yinlin.
      Yinlin no longer buffs them which means Yinlin is probably going to be buffed into a main DPS role.
      As they release more Electro it actually doesnt affect anyone cuz Yinlin value doesn't increase. She no longers buff electro units.
      Either she's gonna be buffed as main DPS or she's gonna be Electro Sanhua idk. One thing for sure is that her value will stays as she is and she's no longer a future proof unit.

    • @tactician3023
      @tactician3023 6 месяцев назад

      @@prophetmuhammad3890what she lost her electro deepen ability ?

    • @beasthaven1571
      @beasthaven1571 6 месяцев назад

      @@prophetmuhammad3890since she’s not a future proof unit so I still want to focus her? Quq my plan was to mainly use her then have an electric team but I played withering waves for her it just so happened she was future proof which ai liked as a f2p player
      Also should we even focus on upgrading 5* units when we can’t s6 them as f2p it would take years of pulling right to s6 a 5*?

    • @prophetmuhammad3890
      @prophetmuhammad3890 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@tactician3023she still have it. But unlike Verina we cannot retain the buff. You must stay for 14 secs with your Calcharo because the buff is gone after you swap back to Yinlin. This is a huge loss in DPS by not quickswapping like in the beta.

  • @zyfryth
    @zyfryth 6 месяцев назад +3

    Some of the descriptions and tooltips in the game are soooooooo confusing... Wth is that until character exits? Which character? Can you do an outro skill without exiting with the character? lol Unless they mean that Yinlin does her outro, buffs Calcharo for 14 seconds, but if Calcharo exits before 14 seconds have passed, buff expires? That is the only reasonable way I can interpret this and if that is the case it is not a big deal, since you are damaging with Calcharo anyway and will exit from him, when done with rotation, no?
    Another thing that confuses me is energy regen. Does it apply only to recovery of your ult, or does it apply to concerto energy, or does it apply to character special resource recovery?

    • @Lufaine01
      @Lufaine01 6 месяцев назад

      Buff expires when the next character rotates out, as in Yinlin -> calcharo buffed -> swap back to yinlin and lose buff
      Energy regen only affects liberation buildup

  • @naavaru6229
    @naavaru6229 6 месяцев назад +3

    is the 'exit' already confirmed tested even if u switch fast enough and technically calcharo never really exited the field if u swap back before the animation ended?

    • @jinabellano9703
      @jinabellano9703 6 месяцев назад +1

      Someone Said that its not Effective. He tried it with Sanhua and After Quickswapping The Buff is Gone.

  • @joelmartinez7994
    @joelmartinez7994 6 месяцев назад +2

    Asking for yinlin buff when she is already op even in teams wihout calcharo, this guy is a freaking madlad

  • @d3ryxodadery282
    @d3ryxodadery282 6 месяцев назад

    Jianxin guide? Nice, i will wait for it. Good video m8

  • @ejun251
    @ejun251 6 месяцев назад +4

    If they somehow make Yinlin bad, I'm quitting. I skipped first banner for her and she's the main reason for playing the game right now.

  • @tinker8697
    @tinker8697 6 месяцев назад +1

    Do you have a link for the guy on 3:20?

  • @aria1011
    @aria1011 6 месяцев назад +4

    is a 2nd copy of the 5star sword in the mc/danjin team more worth than getting the pistols for mortefi?

    • @xMomoee
      @xMomoee 6 месяцев назад +4

      not really diversity of weapon is better

    • @JihadMuhammad-uk8ze
      @JihadMuhammad-uk8ze 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah idk why you'd think a copy would be better than a new weapon

    • @aria1011
      @aria1011 6 месяцев назад

      @@amathine440like instead of mc and danjin each having the emerald sword?

    • @melvinchang8941
      @melvinchang8941 6 месяцев назад

      Why trash? Any advance data for clarification?​@@amathine440

    • @kevinolteanu5282
      @kevinolteanu5282 6 месяцев назад

      Just get the craftable sword it's so good for danjin get the 5* guns for mortefi you're way better off that way

  • @tweezy5804
    @tweezy5804 6 месяцев назад

    That outro nerf where you can't quick swap as effectiv 5:02 ely is huge :(

  • @aka_kizen
    @aka_kizen 6 месяцев назад +1

    can we get a link for the lvl 100 vs calcharo-yinlin ^^?

    • @dieasap
      @dieasap 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah I would love that too

  • @jeddsundiam3303
    @jeddsundiam3303 6 месяцев назад +1

    So is Yinlin even worth pulling for anymore? Is it done for us Calcharo mains?

    • @rafaelzakaria7820
      @rafaelzakaria7820 6 месяцев назад

      we are finished

    • @Ilikegames804
      @Ilikegames804 6 месяцев назад

      We wait for a 2nd verina

    • @min_e___1662
      @min_e___1662 6 месяцев назад

      ngl they doin ma boii dirty even tho he has that massive popularity
      first things first they don't give me jiyan now they don't allow calcharo to shine

    • @YaeGuuji
      @YaeGuuji 4 месяца назад

      @@min_e___1662 Kuro tries their best to make sure that they limited banners sale, no matter what. What a shitshow :(

    • @min_e___1662
      @min_e___1662 4 месяца назад

      @@YaeGuuji they wasted a really good character

  • @gabriele4920
    @gabriele4920 6 месяцев назад +1

    Why is no one calling kuro out for not communicating any of these? They would probably do this again in the future if they get away with it

  • @Unknown-jg4uq
    @Unknown-jg4uq 6 месяцев назад +1

    Seeing a main character in t0 on a gacha game is so weird... I love it

  • @aen898
    @aen898 6 месяцев назад

    Yinlin's outro was adjusted because most players would not be able to do quick swap especially the casual one, only the try-hards are pretty much happy about it but in my opinion, i think majority will not be happy with quick swap meta abuse.
    I feel pity for my friends not being able to have such a skill.
    In conclusion, in my opinion the adjustment was the right move. It is for everyone to be able to enjoy the game both for the majority and minority and to maintain a healthy community.
    Wish you all a great day and happy gaming everyone✌️.

  • @AlphaCocoAudio
    @AlphaCocoAudio 6 месяцев назад +2

    Ooh very nice

  • @ENDGaming1998
    @ENDGaming1998 6 месяцев назад

    This is what I am talking about, need the balance team like Riot game, and the 200 years of balance experience too

  • @crakoto8095
    @crakoto8095 6 месяцев назад

    Sorry english is not my main language so I have some issue to understand. The outro skill is used when a character exits the field. So why it says that the outro skill last 14 seconds "or until character exit" when yinlin will literally exist since it's her outro skill ? What's the point of these 14 seconds now ? Thanks for claryfing me !

    • @chickennug1377
      @chickennug1377 6 месяцев назад

      When u use outro, u already switched from yinlin to another character. That character (not yinlin) gets buffed until they exit.

  • @otrongai1030
    @otrongai1030 6 месяцев назад +2

    If Yinlin is push to be a dps and lost her electro deepen then this is a masive nerf cause she is longer future proof. Guess its time to switch to fusion comp with Encore rather than invest in electro

  • @jbud475
    @jbud475 6 месяцев назад

    i dont like swapping will jus just swap when i need healing or dmg buff, then swap back fast to Calcharo ,his the only character i want to play in the game unless there will be new badass male katana character in the he future

  • @XLR8Tony
    @XLR8Tony 6 месяцев назад +2

    I want to c6 Calcharo Q.Q

  • @naoyukimurakami7745
    @naoyukimurakami7745 6 месяцев назад

    I don’t really remember hoyo ever doing a nerf on any char release.. this is where kuro lost the battle it seems..

  • @MikaSchneider-e4d
    @MikaSchneider-e4d 6 месяцев назад

    so basically a nerf for calcharo and yinlin. I believe we will also see the power creep really fast since we got a lot of free 5 stars and with that to push people to pull the power creep might come really fast.

    • @wkdikskwlwkd
      @wkdikskwlwkd 6 месяцев назад

      Kuro considered this very thoroughly, they made standard unit's sequences underwhelming for a reason.

  • @h0llow1716
    @h0llow1716 6 месяцев назад

    why are you not adressing the imo massive calcharo nerf when they moved his special intro in ult from c2 to base?

    • @sasato8966
      @sasato8966 6 месяцев назад

      ?

    • @h0llow1716
      @h0llow1716 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@sasato8966 he has a special intro animation when in his ult which makes you loose 1-2 charge attacks

    • @nonamepasserbya6658
      @nonamepasserbya6658 6 месяцев назад

      I have a feeling Kuro thought that was a buff to Calcharo. It isn't

  • @machijoten
    @machijoten 6 месяцев назад +28

    I get why they nerf Yinlin outro to last until Calcharo exits, because that beta fight is way too sweaty lmao. 😂

    • @prophetmuhammad3890
      @prophetmuhammad3890 6 месяцев назад +14

      which is sad because what that one dude did doesnt translate to everyone. WuWa feels like Monster Hunter in which that there is clearly a META but only good players can utilize that full META potential.
      Which is why this is a sad news if Yinlin stays this way.

    • @rei_rei64
      @rei_rei64 6 месяцев назад +1

      its not just Yinlin its all similar outro buffs like sanhua/danjin/taoqi

    • @zaidkapadia6824
      @zaidkapadia6824 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@prophetmuhammad3890
      Pretty sure you're not a Muslim. What's the meaning behind this account? Especially not to mention that an image of Muhammad PBUH doesn't exist, your pfp is a portrait of Ali made by the North Indians.

    • @james-bx4wr
      @james-bx4wr 6 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@zaidkapadia6824"pretty sure you're not a muslim" HAHAHAHAHA MAN onliners are hilarious

    • @zaidkapadia6824
      @zaidkapadia6824 6 месяцев назад

      @@james-bx4wr
      Your point?

  • @godlikejason
    @godlikejason 6 месяцев назад

    am i understanding yinlin outro wrong? it says exit dont it mean exit of calcharo? yinlin still will apply it to calcharo? but dont apply it to herself is what they trying to prevent cause if its not exited means both of them get the buff right? so it means only calcharo gets it now?

    • @ThisKidLennon
      @ThisKidLennon 6 месяцев назад +1

      yes

    • @Drayken
      @Drayken 6 месяцев назад +1

      Basically before the nerf you would get the buff on Calcharo, do a rotation, swap to yinlin, rotation, back to Calcharo and the very first buff would still be running.
      Now instead the buff gets removed once you exit Calcharo.

    • @ThisKidLennon
      @ThisKidLennon 6 месяцев назад +1

      makes me wanna skin yinlin now even know i planned on maining calcharo team

    • @LowTierGaming-lol
      @LowTierGaming-lol 6 месяцев назад

      I planned on playing this way anyway to make calcharo as the main dealer so like....this doesn't affect me

  • @randumb8995
    @randumb8995 6 месяцев назад

    Is Verdant Summit not top tier for Calcharo? I was thinking of rolling for it or just going for Standard 5 Star Broadblade

    • @KobeJacob
      @KobeJacob 6 месяцев назад +1

      The wording is wrong on the blade they're gonna get sued

    • @ThisKidLennon
      @ThisKidLennon 6 месяцев назад

      verdant summit is the best for calcharo

    • @randumb8995
      @randumb8995 6 месяцев назад

      @@KobeJacob Oh? Is it a mistranslation or something?

    • @KobeJacob
      @KobeJacob 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@randumb8995 yeah mistranslation so if you get it for calcharo just know you can't get the max buffs from it

    • @randumb8995
      @randumb8995 6 месяцев назад

      @@KobeJacob damn...

  • @dennisa.454
    @dennisa.454 6 месяцев назад

    Is Spectro MC still only T2 on cn tier list?

    • @OnePunkMoby
      @OnePunkMoby 6 месяцев назад

      Havoc MC is just broken. Try havoc MC instead.

  • @billmurray7676
    @billmurray7676 6 месяцев назад

    Wait, you're supposed to use heavy attack during the ultimate phase with Calcharo ?

    • @iman-c5f
      @iman-c5f 6 месяцев назад

      Yes,to the point that you need to dash cancel her BA combo during ult just to trigger his heavy attack faster.His kit also buffs dmg by using heavy attacks

    • @starboyibz
      @starboyibz 6 месяцев назад

      @@iman-c5fdoes his ult change his basic attacks to heavy ?

    • @Killer_Bee150
      @Killer_Bee150 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@starboyibzno, they're still basic attacks but once your guage is full you'll get a basic attack that has the properties and damage of a heavy attack, basically just spam basic and you'll get the heavy attacks still coming out.

  • @sadig_alhadi5463
    @sadig_alhadi5463 6 месяцев назад +1

    why they Nerfing characters !!! ? from what i see this move will make players more mad and quit the game

  • @loveisnotachoice168
    @loveisnotachoice168 6 месяцев назад

    Bro the game has launched yesterday (a way of saying) and there are 4 characters of course if you need 3 teams he is on them.....its not that you have 80 characters and you can choose

  • @natsutohru7036
    @natsutohru7036 6 месяцев назад

    Is getting c2 chalcharo + verdant + yinlin worth it? My chalcharo rn 43/184 with 1800 atk .

    • @Zeff0
      @Zeff0 6 месяцев назад

      Personally verdant is not worth since he cant take full advantage of the passive, hot take I think the BP weapon the Autumntrace is arguably better and easier the r6

    • @natsutohru7036
      @natsutohru7036 6 месяцев назад

      @@Zeff0 nah i have verdant cause accidentally got in 10 pull

    • @mustafaozturk3343
      @mustafaozturk3343 6 месяцев назад

      Then why are you asking if it is worh or not?

  • @ApaYaa2nd
    @ApaYaa2nd 6 месяцев назад

    Man I thought Kuro games encourages sweaty plays, they could've done the nerf in a different way..

  • @hotpenguin607
    @hotpenguin607 6 месяцев назад

    U cant even begin FEEL the nerf if u cant do 3 death messengers 😂😂😂

  • @prophetmuhammad3890
    @prophetmuhammad3890 6 месяцев назад +3

    Eh so lame.
    the reason for me to save for Yinlin was to get that Calcharo buff. Playing Yinlin as main DPS and Calcharo as Sub DPS sounds so boring.
    Guess i'll skip her and get Jiyan instead. Still salty tho.

  • @prew_gaming
    @prew_gaming 6 месяцев назад +3

    90% of players didn't even play the beta.. so, what nerf are you talking about.

  • @ThisKidLennon
    @ThisKidLennon 6 месяцев назад

    You never answered the question of the video title

  • @iCHRIS-x
    @iCHRIS-x 6 месяцев назад

    Is this a new nerf? Or it’s the same nerf before launch ?

    • @shinon7956
      @shinon7956 6 месяцев назад +1

      cbt vs release

    • @TimaeuSS
      @TimaeuSS  6 месяцев назад +7

      This is already in game at release. Post media server release but for the majority of the players, no one would even know

    • @iCHRIS-x
      @iCHRIS-x 6 месяцев назад

      @@TimaeuSS yeah I did not know about this energy nerf , thanks man

    • @calvados7754
      @calvados7754 6 месяцев назад

      @@TimaeuSS thats reassuring to hear, because I was already worried about his energy regen.
      If his weak energy regen would've been nerfed again by more than half, I wouldnt know how to get his ult up constantly.

    • @calvados7754
      @calvados7754 6 месяцев назад

      @Krugmatik I see. ty.

  • @t3floz
    @t3floz 6 месяцев назад

    calcharo or encore? Im gonna take my 2nd 5 star free character. I already have verina

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 6 месяцев назад

      You should beable to get 3.
      Beginner banner.
      Coupon gaurintee.
      Gaurintee but 80 pulls.
      I got calchiro from beginner, verina from coupon, encore for gaurintee myself. Then again, I'm going for yinlin too because I have a thing for wires/dolls/puppets and the like. So it's whichever you want. And like more

    • @prophetmuhammad3890
      @prophetmuhammad3890 6 месяцев назад

      encore if you care about meta. Calcharo if you want to look cool.

    • @t3floz
      @t3floz 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@prophetmuhammad3890 I looked at timauss tier list and encore seemed very complicated from when he described how to maximize her dps. Is that so?

    • @prophetmuhammad3890
      @prophetmuhammad3890 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@t3floz not really. it's something that anyone can learn after a few tries Encore's swap timing window is very forgiving so you can defo do it.

  • @reguret2976
    @reguret2976 6 месяцев назад

    so they nerfed him just cause 1 player played them so well, bruh

  • @justincampbell1213
    @justincampbell1213 6 месяцев назад

    One thing I’ve been wondering is if Yin is worth. I mean of course she’s “worth” but for team building I think it may make more sense to build vertical with a new element instead of horizontally with more electro - Sanuha is so strong

    • @prophetmuhammad3890
      @prophetmuhammad3890 6 месяцев назад +1

      Rn she actually feels underwhelming tbh. Encore team is still the best if Yinlin stays this way.

    • @wkdikskwlwkd
      @wkdikskwlwkd 6 месяцев назад +2

      I also think Jiyan's way more valuable than Yinlin as opposed to what the majority thinks. You can have a perfect 3 team spread with Jiyan & Mortefi, Calcharo/Encore & Sanhua, Havoc Rover & Danjin. While yes Yinlin would be an upgrade to Calcharo, but is it really worth the pulls when Sanhua is already doing a fantastic job.

    • @justincampbell1213
      @justincampbell1213 6 месяцев назад

      @@wkdikskwlwkd good points - yea I too want yin for her…personality.. but I agree - it makes more sense to skip her

  • @vandergrift5557
    @vandergrift5557 6 месяцев назад

    Jianxin buff when? Her shield feels so bad sometimes getting staggered against human enemies

  • @drefaux6669
    @drefaux6669 6 месяцев назад

    The switching is crazzyyyy

  • @wes0112
    @wes0112 6 месяцев назад

    wait. there's a nerf in a pve gacha game?!

  • @senpapi4511
    @senpapi4511 6 месяцев назад +1

    Why are they nerfing characters without telling anyone what the fuck is wrong with them

    • @WutheringHeatWaves
      @WutheringHeatWaves 6 месяцев назад +1

      Are you even watch the video? It's the different between cbt and global and nothing wrong with it, genshin do that the whole time. They didn't nerf it after release

    • @WutheringHeatWaves
      @WutheringHeatWaves 6 месяцев назад +2

      @Krugmatik are the nerf happen after global lauch? If not then it's not a nerf

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 6 месяцев назад

      ​@Krugmatik he should be fine regardless. Being in standard means you can lose to him for cons and yinlin being an electro sub dps is perfect for him and other electros