Without flux or shielding gas it's not welding. The oxygen in the air is getting to the molten metal and you're just gluing things together with brittle slag.
Exactly right the same thing happens when I short things out with my extension cord. That's not welding. The very definition is joining two metals as if they were never separated. Spot welding works because no air is between the two weldments.
@@donaldcampbell7894 I guess in a rare case were you need to spot weld a battery temporally in an emergency in the middle of nowhere then it mite be a good idea.
SalemikTUBE I up-voted you, but: Actually, upon consideration, there might be some CO2 shielding present due to the hot carbon rod absorbing the free oxygen in the vicinity, albeit the oxygen has to already be there to be absorbed. I might have to give him that... Also, the carbon rod might cause some surface hardening and brittleness. All in all I agree it is not a very good method.
U dont need sheilding gas or flux to weld thares sodering spot welding and plastic welding that dosent use shielding gas but you are right that its not going to be a good weld or a tack and would break easy
Really cool idea. This could be very useful in tack welding very thin sheet metal, if one didn't have a tack welder. I would recommend a larger 12 volt battery to power it that can handle the short circuit amperage without risk of damaging the battery.
@@spycat917 shielding gas displaces the atmosphere in and around the area being welded. Even if you are fixing a tiny crack. The other method is to use a welding flux. In the process of producing a metal Argon or some other method is used to prevent oxygen from entering the molten pool.
Please use Carbon-Zinc Cells. They have a Carbon rod. (Anode). Alkaline cells do not have them. Anyhow it's not a good idea to short circuit a battery via a carbon rod (very low resistance), which will lead to premature failure of the Source (Battery). Regards, Engineer from India.
Yep, yep, yep. Your comment was earlier than mine. Don't do that unless you want to get rid of your battery pretty soon otherwise your battery will degrade and die even if it's new.
@@senpaiseiichi3645 No! The electrode requires quite a high current to heat up. Instead you can use a 12V/5A (60W or ~72VA) transformer as the source. The higher the current rating the better. Regards, BTG TIGER 1997.
Short circuit machine at least it works it's very creative it's the heck of an idea for a poor person you know if you can't look past the idea of the creativity in it then you probably got money to buy a simple battery spot welder machine so why are you watching DIY videos Good job dude
@@woodywood4544 I was refering to the lack of adhesive material, but after reading the definition of welding I must agree that I was wrong - indeed there are methods which implement melting without additional materials... my bad, regards :)
I have been wanting to do this for several years but did not know how to make the high current or how much voltage is required. Useful video. Thanks for sharing.
@@styxx0500 You know what I could really use?? Some kind of device that ignites my weed .. Like a match, but reusable.. I wonder if he could show us how to use a simple can of butane and some kind of friction to create a spark so I can have a reusable match...for my weed.
@@digitalben420 never know.... He might be able to McGyver something that involves using 6 12 volt car batteries, a paper clip, some duct tape, a stuffed porcupine, a can of butane, a cotton ball, and a pool noodle to make something that could help with that... 🤷♂️😅
Hello. I am a very new beginner. I can not find the materials or products used in the video. Could you provide them in the description or in a comment, please?
Those carbon rods do not come in AA batteries but two of them do come in 6 volt batteries the big Square batteries for flashlights the big Lantern flashlights
Basically shorting the battery to create an arc, extended periods of high current draw that the battery is not designed for will at the least cause irreversible damage to the plates, if the electrode gets stuck also serious risk of battery explosion, or have I missed something?
if you guys want to do this with welding gas for more quality professional results, you need argon gas. Buying a tank is $200+ and this is a budget build so taht is out. I recommend buying wine preservation argon which comes in a spray paint can size at 80psi for around $9 per can if you buy 2 cans. It will buy you about 2 minutes of welding time and you can send it through a tube and blow it onto your weld when you begin welding. you will need to make a finger switch to activate it and get it blowing just when you are about to engage the weld. These cans will enable you to do some decent small welds for a while.
If you buy a car battery,a soldering gun+ accessories plus labor,It's better to buy a proper welding inverter machine-complete set at 200 Amps .No more wasted time & money!
Can you use welding rods? Or is the object your welding, just melting itself together? For instance, if I had 2 pieces of square aluminum tubing I wanted to weld together, could I use a welding rod?
One way of distressing your table I guess. But I made many years ago using the carbon rods from some batteries but my intention was to create a rather rudimentary “carbon arch” so instead of using a 12 volt battery I used the mains and oh boy the sun shone in every inch of my bedroom for long enough for me to retire that Idea and think hmm I better not do that again in a hurry.
But of course. Only, it has to be powerful - able to deliver constant high current (30 - 50A or more - the more, the better) without a drop of voltage during a long intervals. Practically, it would need to be a stabilized PSU of at least 500 Watt (say, 12 VDC/40 ADC). That being said, traditional PSU would require a transformer with a soft iron core as powerful as 1000VA, massive "graetz" (bridge rectifier) and a lot of "filtration" (capacitors with huge capacity). The more current and more voltage in a battery (or PSU), the tool would be able to weld thicker pieces of metal in less time...
If you look up what kinda metal was used for a battery you could have your own style. I like this as a small material version, but I want something more powerful for thick steal- power from an outlet would be my goal.
Where is the power supply coming from. What size type wire u using. Could u use a 2.5 wire and is the supply connect to a 20 volt DCoutlet. Could it also be used as 220 volts power like a regular 220 weilding machine.?????????
nice video.. had no idea little batteries had the carbon rods in them. You can use the 6v battery carbon rods with a welder and make a forge to melt metal in in.
Nice, but you should use any connecting substance like cooper wire or solding wire or something to stick or what ever technical people called it im not a enganier so cannot say technical words
Ain’t gonna lie demonstrating the welding of the of the wires made me think there was more wires I didn’t pay attention to. But now I see those were nothing.
12v is enough to burn your car without any petrol involve. U should go to workshop to see how they repair the battery terminal. Then u will see the truth
I think the battery will not explode, us you can see he uses a black rod in the battery, (I dont know the name of it) . But that rod may break if its too long in using it
No allowed to be use adoptor for like this project it needs of high amper required ,but if you whish to to do like, transformer with high amperage and ractifier diodes are required to be perform well,
Without flux or shielding gas it's not welding. The oxygen in the air is getting to the molten metal and you're just gluing things together with brittle slag.
Exactly right the same thing happens when I short things out with my extension cord. That's not welding. The very definition is joining two metals as if they were never separated. Spot welding works because no air is between the two weldments.
@@donaldcampbell7894 I guess in a rare case were you need to spot weld a battery temporally in an emergency in the middle of nowhere then it mite be a good idea.
You should look up explosive welding. It's pretty crazy shit
SalemikTUBE I up-voted you, but: Actually, upon consideration, there might be some CO2 shielding present due to the hot carbon rod absorbing the free oxygen in the vicinity, albeit the oxygen has to already be there to be absorbed.
I might have to give him that...
Also, the carbon rod might cause some surface hardening and brittleness.
All in all I agree it is not a very good method.
U dont need sheilding gas or flux to weld thares sodering spot welding and plastic welding that dosent use shielding gas but you are right that its not going to be a good weld or a tack and would break easy
It's work perfectly 👍 100% I made it
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Battery details (size,watt) bro
@@deepaksahu607512v amp 7 above
Really cool idea. This could be very useful in tack welding very thin sheet metal, if one didn't have a tack welder. I would recommend a larger 12 volt battery to power it that can handle the short circuit amperage without risk of damaging the battery.
There is a carbon rod.there its high resistance
@@prototype9000 Right, you are.
If you only had a soldering iron you could have soldered that power wire
lol
The process should hav also
been explained by narration
@@dilipsengupta2995 could have at least typed something out for us
That's funny as H---!
The guy shares a great idea, then an imbecile comes to talk shit. Congratulations on creating colleague.
Carbon rod from AA battery helps, but shielding gas to prevent oxidation during 'welding' would be a plus.
can you demonstrate more?
The mind of an Engineer!
Superb project and very useful!
You are very great 👍👍👍about welding machine for battery information ℹ️ℹ️ℹ️ bro 👏👏👏👏👏
A tungsten carbide welding tip would work better.
You also can connect a variable light switch to control the current.
Just a question, would the joint have the same strength as to that of regular machines?
This looks fabulous for tinkering with.
@@PC-tz6rw I am a welder by trade and I know that this is not a good weld.
Why because it requires something to shielding gas.
Could you explain shielding gas? Do you think this would seal a small crack in a catylitic converter or do I need like a filler metal?
@@spycat917 shielding gas displaces the atmosphere in and around the area being welded.
Even if you are fixing a tiny crack.
The other method is to use a welding flux.
In the process of producing a metal Argon or some other method is used to prevent oxygen from entering the molten pool.
Please use Carbon-Zinc Cells. They have a Carbon rod. (Anode). Alkaline cells do not have them. Anyhow it's not a good idea to short circuit a battery via a carbon rod (very low resistance), which will lead to premature failure of the Source (Battery). Regards, Engineer from India.
Yep, yep, yep.
Your comment was earlier than mine.
Don't do that unless you want to get rid of your battery pretty soon otherwise your battery will degrade and die even if it's new.
Yes, that's right
can I use an adapter with output of 12V 0.2A 2.4VA? or it is better to use 9V 850MA? or none of it will work?
@@senpaiseiichi3645 No! The electrode requires quite a high current to heat up. Instead you can use a 12V/5A (60W or ~72VA) transformer as the source. The higher the current rating the better. Regards, BTG TIGER 1997.
@@btg5975 To be clear, a 120 or 220 Ac to 12V/5A DC transformer?
🇯🇵JPN
Nice to neet you.
Welding stainless steel cutters to carbon rods. Great idea! 👍
Short circuit machine at least it works it's very creative it's the heck of an idea for a poor person you know if you can't look past the idea of the creativity in it then you probably got money to buy a simple battery spot welder machine so why are you watching DIY videos Good job dude
Nice work. Probably if this could melt low temp welding rods then this is really good
Should use carbon rod in negetive pole
-yes, but the question is, is there CO2 present from the rod, or no shielding; how do we classify this?
I can't find this in my welding manual, LOL
That's not a welder you're using a carbon Rod which means you've made a gouger it's made for cutting welds out not putting them in
Could be used as a tack welder for like batteries, but not a traditional welder by any means.
Hi, Its a handy DIY. Can you suggest a similar video with welding rod.
Darwin award winner right here..... never in a million years...
why?
Good idea for light welding. Thank you!..
Fantabulous! This is what I serched for many years. Thanks!
More like melting machine :D
I wonder what a welder is?
@@woodywood4544 I was refering to the lack of adhesive material, but after reading the definition of welding I must agree that I was wrong - indeed there are methods which implement melting without additional materials... my bad, regards :)
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I have been wanting to do this for several years but did not know how to make the high current or how much voltage is required. Useful video. Thanks for sharing.
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If only there were an apparatus that one could use to solder wires together.... 🤔
😂😂😂😂
No idea what that could be... This guy is a genius.. didn’t you know?
@@digitalben420 I know right!? Imagine the possibilities this guys invention just opened up!!!
@@styxx0500 You know what I could really use?? Some kind of device that ignites my weed .. Like a match, but reusable.. I wonder if he could show us how to use a simple can of butane and some kind of friction to create a spark so I can have a reusable match...for my weed.
@@digitalben420 never know.... He might be able to McGyver something that involves using 6 12 volt car batteries, a paper clip, some duct tape, a stuffed porcupine, a can of butane, a cotton ball, and a pool noodle to make something that could help with that... 🤷♂️😅
அருமை யான பதிவு ஐயா செ ஆனந்தன்
Don't risk your life. This isn't safe at all. An engineer should consider the safety in every aspect of engineering.
It's 12volts, probably not gonna kill you. Disfiguring at the worst 😂
12 volts won't kill you but you'll get a nice burn if you touch the electrode for sure.
@@user-bt2lx4gy7h its won't kill us with 12v. But u will get pretty good wound burn if the battery blow close up to you
I don't think he's referring to the 12V probably more towards the chance of exploding batteries and flying shrapnel. "Just a thought"
Carbon electrode like arc lamps used in early projectors also can emit carbon monoxide,toxic gas.exhaust must
Great idea ✨✨
Great idiea 🎉
Thank you for sharing your idea bro
Hello. I am a very new beginner. I can not find the materials or products used in the video. Could you provide them in the description or in a comment, please?
Those carbon rods do not come in AA batteries but two of them do come in 6 volt batteries the big Square batteries for flashlights the big Lantern flashlights
Basically shorting the battery to create an arc, extended periods of high current draw that the battery is not designed for will at the least cause irreversible damage to the plates, if the electrode gets stuck also serious risk of battery explosion, or have I missed something?
if you guys want to do this with welding gas for more quality professional results, you need argon gas. Buying a tank is $200+ and this is a budget build so taht is out. I recommend buying wine preservation argon which comes in a spray paint can size at 80psi for around $9 per can if you buy 2 cans. It will buy you about 2 minutes of welding time and you can send it through a tube and blow it onto your weld when you begin welding. you will need to make a finger switch to activate it and get it blowing just when you are about to engage the weld. These cans will enable you to do some decent small welds for a while.
Why hidding Battery behind , Be open all things in front of .
Thanks
If you buy a car battery,a soldering gun+ accessories plus labor,It's better to buy a proper welding inverter machine-complete set at 200 Amps .No more wasted time & money!
Mom's gonna be pissed when she sees what you did to the kitchen table.
Lel
HAHAHAHA true
ممنون خیلی اموزنده بود خواهشمندیم ولتاژ برقی که استفاده میکنه هم اعلام بفرمایید واگر کاربرد دیگری نیز داره با ویدیو نشان بدید با تشکر
Nice trick idea but battery will discharge fast.....
use a 12V power supply
What? No hot glue gun?
Can you use welding rods? Or is the object your welding, just melting itself together? For instance, if I had 2 pieces of square aluminum tubing I wanted to weld together, could I use a welding rod?
Aluminum is VERY difficult material to be welded. This tool works good mostly with copper and iron/steel.
One way of distressing your table I guess. But I made many years ago using the carbon rods from some batteries but my intention was to create a rather rudimentary “carbon arch” so instead of using a 12 volt battery I used the mains and oh boy the sun shone in every inch of my bedroom for long enough for me to retire that Idea and think hmm I better not do that again in a hurry.
Ha ha! Good one! I was wondering whether I should indulge myself into buying a nuclear bunker in the neighborhood to tinker like that!
Thanks sir...i love u
Nice idia very interisted
Si, señor.
Quedó bien soldado.
Buen video, toma tu like.
how many ampere to make the rod burning?
Interesting, something MacGyver would have done.
True ooh
Grt job..excellent
Pls also make drill machine, dough maker etc by kitchen hand blender.
سلام و درود دمت گرم عجب وسیله ای ساختی ایول بابا
Wooooow
Very very very gooooood
Does the heating part u take out of the battery burn out. After a while or does it remains as it is and u dont have to change it.🤔???????
He burnt the shit out of that table with his short circuit machine.
Lol, that’s literally what a welder is
The key piece here is the carbon rod extracted from a battery at 1:40
acts as a makeshift welding rod..
i wonder how a real welding rod would work though.
@@basketcase1235 it would stick or the Flux on the rod would insulate it from completing a circuit. It would not float in an arc.
we'll wait till the battery explodes.
already did but just melt
@@WarRobotsGameroom 😁😁😁
Not what I was expecting, but... Welcome to youtube fakes.
The thumbnail, I mean.
no, it will work, but the battery will deteriorate as it works in short circuit mode
Does it work with the adaptor ( transformer ) for the power supply?
But of course. Only, it has to be powerful - able to deliver constant high current (30 - 50A or more - the more, the better) without a drop of voltage during a long intervals. Practically, it would need to be a stabilized PSU of at least 500 Watt (say, 12 VDC/40 ADC). That being said, traditional PSU would require a transformer with a soft iron core as powerful as 1000VA, massive "graetz" (bridge rectifier) and a lot of "filtration" (capacitors with huge capacity). The more current and more voltage in a battery (or PSU), the tool would be able to weld thicker pieces of metal in less time...
Better use small normal welder !!!
Excelente. Muchas gracias por compartir su conocimiento en beneficio de todos. Bravooo
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Why aren’t you wearing gloves
Use coat hanger wire as filler rod
What type of battery u using for the heating element
You can use a car battery
The long element of heat was a AA battery piece inside the battery.
If you look up what kinda metal was used for a battery you could have your own style. I like this as a small material version, but I want something more powerful for thick steal- power from an outlet would be my goal.
It was simple to make.thank you.
Does this only work with a 12volt battery, I mean can it also be used with a transformator, from 220V to 12 volt? Or will it blow up?
Amperage
What do amperage mean
Where is the power supply coming from. What size type wire u using. Could u use a 2.5 wire and is the supply connect to a 20 volt DCoutlet. Could it also be used as 220 volts power like a regular 220 weilding machine.?????????
bypass it through a transformer first ... than use jumper wire lol
2:04 if you don't know, he used a heavy duty or carbon battery to get that carbon rod which has a melting point over 2000°c so ye.
Only for expetiment not for a long work
why not, will it explode or something?
Where do you hide the alternator?
Possible to use this mini welding method to do minor repair on a car body ?
nice video.. had no idea little batteries had the carbon rods in them. You can use the 6v battery carbon rods with a welder and make a forge to melt metal in in.
Please explain what you mean.
I am very interested in what you commented but don't quite understand the concept.
Thanks
@@andyfleege8504Electric arc furnace.
Can you tell me what that is that you used to make the electrode holder from
I've often sat around thinking "How can I weld these xacto blades together?". Problem solved!
Either that or low amp tig lmao
:))
That's a pretty cool video you're showing was that a battery that you took apart and put in this iron
Quemaste la mesa buena idea para soldar terminales de plancha para ropa electrica gracias
What gauge copper wire is used ?
Ho provato a farla pure io, i pompieri adesso stanno spegnendo la casa. :-)
Nice idea but metallurgy is very important in welding for good quality jointing.
إن اجراء قصر ( وصل الخط الموجب بالخط السالب ) للبطارية حتى ولو كان لفترة قصيرة وإجراء ذلك لعدة مرات يؤدي ذلك إلى تلف للبطارية اليس هذا صحيحاً😳😳⁉️⁉️⁉️
I am making me one of these. Thank you
dont
Add some compressed air and you have an arc air gouging setup.
Next please 👍 first give all in use item list in vedio
Nice, but you should use any connecting substance like cooper wire or solding wire or something to stick or what ever technical people called it im not a enganier so cannot say technical words
Vah yar kya dimag lagaya very good
Ain’t gonna lie demonstrating the welding of the of the wires made me think there was more wires I didn’t pay attention to. But now I see those were nothing.
Very risky there is a lot of current flowing through which will lead to explosion of the battery and also not very usefull idea
Ok then give to us beter idea.
thank, you for you're video
Possible to use a 12v AC to DC adaptor to replace the 12v battery?
Weldon dear
Good idea,what is the amperage of battery?🎉
Your the best!
Very very thanks for knowledge.
Very good idea... I like it... thanks for sharing
Amazing..
Thanks...
Incrível! Funde um metal no outro!
Well I expected this, although when I created this I broke my battery via shorting it :(
So nice
hats off. great vid.
I might try this in fire bricks with a few rods ,see if it smelts metal in a crucible sat on the rods
Thankyou so much men,now I can weld my project!
You need at least 30 volts DC to make a decent welder lol
12v is enough to burn your car without any petrol involve. U should go to workshop to see how they repair the battery terminal. Then u will see the truth
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Adopter use in this welding instead of battery snd which type of adopter use
I think the battery will not explode, us you can see he uses a black rod in the battery, (I dont know the name of it) . But that rod may break if its too long in using it
What does it work of i use adaptor 12 volts ?
No allowed to be use adoptor for like this project it needs of high amper required ,but if you whish to to do like, transformer with high amperage and ractifier diodes are required to be perform well,
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Why no material list for this diy project?
Because it is a fraud!