no clue why this is so fucking hard, dissent is if you throw an insult at the umpire's way or are derogatory towards them - its so simple. showing frustration at a decision or asking 'how is that a free kick' is not dissent.
That’s not the issue mate. It’s the fact that one umpire pays one act of dissent and another let’s a player go berserk. Apparently it’s not a simple as you think, even the umpires don’t know what the hell is going on
It's all about public manipulation programming,don't dare think you have a right to question authority,stand(6 feet apart,666 rule)don't question government don't question science don't question forced medical treatments or medical decisions,obey or be punished(50 mt penalty),it saddens me that our great game and now commentary has been parroted to be a messenger for overlord sponsors(rulers)
I don't care how the umpires call the game as long as they make it clear with how they pay decisions at the start and stick to it ... I think most umpires are experienced enough to keep the whistle in their pocket for moments like the other night .. oldmate made a poor call that he won't forget about anytime soon ..The dissent rule is clunky but the sentiment behind it is solid.. Players can surely find it within themselves to understand arguing with umpires is not only pointless but it's always been a bad look and now is as good a time as any to begin the process of removing the large pieces of it from the game.. If you have ever watched junior footy and seen some kids abusing umpires it's straight up ugly ✌️
Dissent dictionary meaning. The holding or expressing of views at variance with those commonly held. So the afl literally have a law that stops you from expressing your view in 2023. The fact the afl ever even made a rule around dissent shows how incompetent they are. What a joke.
@@lids34 When you break it down, the decision could only have gone one of two ways: 1. Holding the ball or 2. Play on. He made the decision to call play on. Was it the right decision? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Nothing false about that argument. Context - I think the umpires a flog for calling dissent so I'm not advocating for him here haha
"GUMP-pires!! - The Rules are like a box of chocolates...you never know what you are going to get, game to game, week to week. It is becoming a Circus controlled by Clowns!! Becoming unwatchable & embarrassing. Thank's Dan, & especially Gill-igan!!
Umpires always have a different reaction…with every rule, not just this one. Eg holding. It gets missed ALL THE TIME, why not the same outrage over that call or no call?
I’ve noticed something really strange here with AFL media. They don’t want to go too hard on an opinion, nearly like they might be sacked. But u don’t see that with other sports like NBA or NFL. Do the AFL have some massive control that can allow them to strip your media contract or appearance on a show like this so u can’t have a platform? I’m genuinely curious. Why isn’t there some media person totally destroying the AFL on this obviously ridiculous rule? U can’t say Conglio was dissent but Higgins wasn’t
Media personalities are puppets. Literally, they are used to speak the AFL agenda. Only what the AFL allows and wants is spoken. Consider these people as selling their soul for their own benefit.
Reading their masters scripts for public manipulation programming,large donor sponsors agendas and government pressure on the afl to follow the obey narrative is clearly obvious and is now sucking the excitement and thrill of watching afl,commentary and media
Is no-one going to talk any more about that play on call on Sholl that gave Powell Pepper a free shot from the square? That one was way more wrong in my opinion
@@archiesinfield9333 whether Sholl came off his line is at least debatable (he didn't). But Powell Pepper should have been cleared from the area and it's not play on before the whistle is blown. It's 50m and not holding
The over the top rules of dissent is just another example of how our great game is being used for public manipulation programming,I agree with the dissent rule if the umpire is verbally or physical abused and That's IT,I would actually love to see a video of the greatest dissent times,Brian Taylor Mark Jackson are my 2 favourites of the greatest dissenters that come to mind and I think a video of the greatest dissenters would be highly entertaining
Umpires: Don't be passionate about the team you're playing for or the sport and do not question our umpiring decisions because it hurts our feelings! What was that? Dissent! 50 meters! It's a joke. Umpires running around with small man syndrome having an impact on a game that they aren't even playing, they need to call it down the middle and put their feelings aside, it's unprofessional.
It's not true as Jack said that we haven't seen anything re the dissent ruling in the first 2 weeks. As a St Kilda supporter I can tell you that our players were penalused twice for "arms out" and "pointing to the screen" in the first game. Cost us goals both times.
Yea this is so frustrating to watch. Has been taken too far. I understand why this was brought in, umpires getting abused at grass roots. However, this is changing our game, players are human beings and not robots and we love seeing some emotion. This makes it less of a spectacle. I don't punt, but punters would be fuming over that. Also giants probably win that game if it wasn't for that.
the way its heading we're going to get to a point where the umpires cry about the crowd giving them dissent no one will be allowed to boo or disagree with any decision. umpires need to grow a set of balls & thicker skin
Jack's taken the gold on many occasions for that topic😊no offense to Nick just doesn't have the same profile can't be argued that one. Our game is judged on outcomes and results unfortunately for some. It doesn't take away from Nick but you get my point.
no clue why this is so fucking hard, dissent is if you throw an insult at the umpire's way or are derogatory towards them - its so simple. showing frustration at a decision or asking 'how is that a free kick' is not dissent.
That’s not the issue mate. It’s the fact that one umpire pays one act of dissent and another let’s a player go berserk. Apparently it’s not a simple as you think, even the umpires don’t know what the hell is going on
Just another rule to Frustrate Footy Supporters !
It's all about public manipulation programming,don't dare think you have a right to question authority,stand(6 feet apart,666 rule)don't question government don't question science don't question forced medical treatments or medical decisions,obey or be punished(50 mt penalty),it saddens me that our great game and now commentary has been parroted to be a messenger for overlord sponsors(rulers)
On every level doc is just such an impressive human.
The door is now open for the AFL to be able to determine the result of any match - kill momentum and then justify the decision
That dissent rule is Soooo Friggin Annoying ! Too much power in the Umpires hands to decide a game . Is that what we really want ????
I don't care how the umpires call the game as long as they make it clear with how they pay decisions at the start and stick to it ... I think most umpires are experienced enough to keep the whistle in their pocket for moments like the other night .. oldmate made a poor call that he won't forget about anytime soon ..The dissent rule is clunky but the sentiment behind it is solid.. Players can surely find it within themselves to understand arguing with umpires is not only pointless but it's always been a bad look and now is as good a time as any to begin the process of removing the large pieces of it from the game.. If you have ever watched junior footy and seen some kids abusing umpires it's straight up ugly ✌️
“Hope it doesn’t cost a team a premiership” ask St Kilda about that point in 09. Truth is every ruling has the potential to cost a team.
Umpires as usual thinking they are bigger than the game
I heard the umpire had a bet on Carlton - I know a guy who knows a guy connected to the umpire
Sure you do. I'm sceptical. He won't be an umpire for long if that's true. Much more likely that you're a bullshit artist though.
I hope it doesn't cost a team a premiership or a shot at a premiership
Afl house should be renamed to MAD HOUSE
Dissent dictionary meaning. The holding or expressing of views at variance with those commonly held. So the afl literally have a law that stops you from expressing your view in 2023.
The fact the afl ever even made a rule around dissent shows how incompetent they are. What a joke.
What? What is Wheatley talking about? There was no decision made when McKay got tackled but he is saying there was? No riewodlt is right. There wasn’t
The decision made was to NOT give a free kick. The way he says it is right - Coniglio just didn't like that decision.
@@treebeard1774 that is sophistry of the highest order.
@@lids34 When you break it down, the decision could only have gone one of two ways: 1. Holding the ball or 2. Play on. He made the decision to call play on. Was it the right decision? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Nothing false about that argument.
Context - I think the umpires a flog for calling dissent so I'm not advocating for him here haha
@@treebeard1774 appealing for a free kick looks exactly the same as questioning an umpire's decision, when the default is to call play on.
@@lids34 Okay?
"GUMP-pires!! - The Rules are like a box of chocolates...you never know what you are going to get, game to game, week to week. It is becoming a Circus controlled by Clowns!! Becoming unwatchable & embarrassing. Thank's Dan, & especially Gill-igan!!
Umpires always have a different reaction…with every rule, not just this one. Eg holding. It gets missed ALL THE TIME, why not the same outrage over that call or no call?
I’ve noticed something really strange here with AFL media. They don’t want to go too hard on an opinion, nearly like they might be sacked. But u don’t see that with other sports like NBA or NFL. Do the AFL have some massive control that can allow them to strip your media contract or appearance on a show like this so u can’t have a platform? I’m genuinely curious. Why isn’t there some media person totally destroying the AFL on this obviously ridiculous rule? U can’t say Conglio was dissent but Higgins wasn’t
Media personalities are puppets. Literally, they are used to speak the AFL agenda. Only what the AFL allows and wants is spoken. Consider these people as selling their soul for their own benefit.
Reading their masters scripts for public manipulation programming,large donor sponsors agendas and government pressure on the afl to follow the obey narrative is clearly obvious and is now sucking the excitement and thrill of watching afl,commentary and media
Is no-one going to talk any more about that play on call on Sholl that gave Powell Pepper a free shot from the square? That one was way more wrong in my opinion
That was 100% correct
@@archiesinfield9333 😂
Classic port supporter
@@archiesinfield9333 whether Sholl came off his line is at least debatable (he didn't). But Powell Pepper should have been cleared from the area and it's not play on before the whistle is blown. It's 50m and not holding
The over the top rules of dissent is just another example of how our great game is being used for public manipulation programming,I agree with the dissent rule if the umpire is verbally or physical abused and That's IT,I would actually love to see a video of the greatest dissent times,Brian Taylor Mark Jackson are my 2 favourites of the greatest dissenters that come to mind and I think a video of the greatest dissenters would be highly entertaining
Yes, actually agree with this, been saying it for a number of years, all part of the large scale social conditioning. Prepping us for things to come.
John Bourke has entered the chat 😮
Umpires: Don't be passionate about the team you're playing for or the sport and do not question our umpiring decisions because it hurts our feelings! What was that? Dissent! 50 meters!
It's a joke. Umpires running around with small man syndrome having an impact on a game that they aren't even playing, they need to call it down the middle and put their feelings aside, it's unprofessional.
It's not true as Jack said that we haven't seen anything re the dissent ruling in the first 2 weeks. As a St Kilda supporter I can tell you that our players were penalused twice for "arms out" and "pointing to the screen" in the first game. Cost us goals both times.
the afl claim the player was pestering the umpire previously, now the bloody umpires have become so precious !!!
Yea this is so frustrating to watch. Has been taken too far. I understand why this was brought in, umpires getting abused at grass roots. However, this is changing our game, players are human beings and not robots and we love seeing some emotion. This makes it less of a spectacle. I don't punt, but punters would be fuming over that. Also giants probably win that game if it wasn't for that.
Don’t question the umpires call or it’s decent to a weak umpire
the way its heading we're going to get to a point where the umpires cry about the crowd giving them dissent no one will be allowed to boo or disagree with any decision. umpires need to grow a set of balls & thicker skin
players should be able to carry on like a two bob watch !!!
The second best Riewoldt
Yep! The one with the three flags and three Coleman medals. That second best one.
@@jimofoz653 1st one just played on a unlucky team
@@Adym18 You make your own luck. Nick played in a team with some excellent footballers, just couldn't finish it. Still a great player, though.
Jack's taken the gold on many occasions for that topic😊no offense to Nick just doesn't have the same profile can't be argued that one. Our game is judged on outcomes and results unfortunately for some. It doesn't take away from Nick but you get my point.
Absolute fact
Don’t put your arms out Jack
Anyone is better than slobinson, even you, Joey
Believe it or not, you're capable of going a whole game without questioning the umpires decision.
Umpires shmumpires
Robots.