Avro Manchester build - part 1 - with Wingleader photo archive and Blackbird conversion kit
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- Planning my 1/72 scale Avro Manchester conversion of the Airfix Lancaster kit, using the Blackbird Models resin conversion kit. The Wingleader Productions Photo Archive books are a fantastic reference source, full of rare photographs and detailed insights. In this video I'll go through the book trying to understand the differences between the Manchester variants and the changes I will need to make to the Lancaster kit.
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0:00 Intro
1:30 Prototype 1
4:40 Prototype 2
6:08 Manchester Mk I
9:25 Interior
10:30 Manchester Mk Ia
11:57 Summary 
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Ah, wonderful, enjoyed the chat about the Manchester , very informative...looks like a nice project!
Thank you. Yes, I'm really looking forward to it.
Those Wingleader ref books are awesomely good. Waiting to see your Manchester, it is going to be great. 😀
Thank you mate. Just clearing the desk and the past projects at the moment so I can have a clear start to the year :)
This is going to be great to follow along, cant wait
Thank you mate!
Right.. Kettle on, chair upright.. let's go. This is gonna be good!!
Thanks Nigel! It was your videos that put me onto the Wingleader books in the first place. Great references and, as you always say, great prices.
Looking forward to seeing this build!
Thanks!
Great way to start the year ,
Really enjoy these book review/research videos 👍
Thank you! Happy new year!
Very nice. Once again you pick an interesting subject piece.
Thanks! Happy new year!
I'm anxious to see the build on this remarkable conversation. The " preflight" narrative of the conversation was extremely valuable explaining the complexity of your objectives. Ironically being a Lancaster " fan", I was not familiar with the Manchester . I wonder if this variant was the first phase of Lancaster evolution along with its combat record. The two engine version seemed very close close to the Wellington. Obviously I need to get the book :-) Happy New Year , Cheers until the next video.
I'm glad it was useful - I wasn't sure how well it would be received, not containing any actual modelling. The Manchester was generally considered a poor aircraft, with the main criticisms being aimed at its Vulture engines which were unreliable and prone to overheating. Interestingly there was a Manchester BT308 that had the third tail fin but was fitted with four Merlin engines - this was effectively, the first prototype Lancaster.
@@ModelNerd Thank you, very helpful to understand the Lancaster heritage.
This has been interesting 🤔 very informative 👏.
Thank you - I'm glad you liked it
Fantastic video. Thank you
Thank you for watching. Final part of the build coming up soon.
Hi Stu, that's some great resource material.
They're really fantastic books. Worth it just for the rare images!
This will be a great project to follow. Kudos for bringing this to the ‘Tube 🍻
Thank you mate!
Happy New Year to you and your family. This will be a very interesting build to follow. I didn't realise that the Manchester had the same size fuselage as the Lancaster. Surely there must have been differences in the bomb bay because the Manchester, with half the power of the Lancaster and less wing area must have carried a lot less payload.
I did wonder about that myself. Considering that towards the end of the war Lancasters were flying operations absolutely at the limit of their take-off weight (and in the case of the various Specials, having gear removed to reduce weight), it seems odd that the Manchester would have the same size bomb bay. But I suppose that was the inadequacy of the Manchester - its engines couldn't deliver.
After a quick internet search I found that the Lancaster's bomb load was nearly twice that of a Manchester. However, the Manchester had a large bomb bay due to an original requirement to carry torpedo's but this requirement was dropped by the time the prototypes got to A&AEE for evaluation.@@ModelNerd
Wow - I never knew it was planned to carry torpedos!
A great way to start the year! This will be a really interesting build to follow,and the end result will definitely look great! Happy new year!
Thank you mate. Yes, I'm really looking forward to this one. Happy new year!
Happy New year, lovely to see something slightly different. Mike
Thanks Mike. Happy new year.
This is going to be interesting......
Happy New Year!
Thank you :) Happy new year!
Happy New Year! You are a savior mate. I was lucky enough to buy a CMR model from CMK of Manchester last black Friday at a 50% sale. Now that you are going to build I will follow you. Well, mine is already a full resin kit but the research you've done is really helpful plus a motivation for me to start! Many thanks.
Wow, that was lucky to find the CMK kit. I'd been looking for this Blackbird kit for ages (it is always out of stock on their website) and I was lucky enough to see their stall at Telford. I snapped it up straight away! :)
Happy New Year! This looks to be an interesting project. Looking forward to more episodes.
Thanks! Happy new year! I'll try to keep this one rolling rather than having huge gaps between updates as I have done with some in the past :)
*The Manchester was a mistake due to the Vulture engine but it opened the way to the Lancaster so have fun build this conversion!*
Yep! Silver linings and all that!
@@ModelNerd The Manchester issue was the specification, it was mad. A Jack of all trades master of none, specification . The requirements were, a medium bomber, a dive bomber, hence two engines for aerodynamics and drove excessive weight, a torpedo bomber hence the size of the bomb bay, and a troop carrier hence windows. It was also required to cat and trap. There are photographs of a Manchester on the catapult, again drives weight. Consequently the vulture engines were being asked to do a lot. Interestingly the vulture was very successful in Tornado, which out performed Typhoon because of the superior supercharger. Another major issue was the Avro Hydraulics system, the Manchester system was poor. When the Manchester III prototype which became Lancaster, was produced basically larger wings and four Merlins. Rolls Royce involvement and provision of the Merlin and Beaufighter Merlin nacelle outer engines was on the understanding they were involved to sort the hydraulics which also powered the turrets. The Halifax had electric turrets which were simpler. Once the second prototype was completed, Avro had 60 engineers review it to apply the Colin Chapman rule to simplify and add lightness. Needless to say, regarding Manchester Avro blame the vulture whilst Rolls Royce Blamed Avro’s poor design when in reality it was the specification. Ultimately Manchester was transformed into Lancaster heavy bomber, Shackleton long range maritime bomber and York transporter, they had the common sense to dump dive bomber, ultimately covered by tallboy.
I;m surprised the Mark Ii was cheaper. I tried to find one and they were scarce. I love the Mark Ii because of the radial engines. I like it a lot more than the more common Marks I and III. A shame to waste it!
Recently Wonderland Models in Edinburgh had them on sale (I got mine from them at Telford). Don't worry, I have two - so I will be able to build one and cut up the other :)
Should be an interesting build Stu, pity they didn't do a conversion kit for the other variants.
Thanks. I think it is only the two prototype aircraft that can't be done out of the box. There probably would be a way to modify the wing, but I'm not going to attempt it! :D
@@ModelNerd I agree Stu, I wouldn't like to cut up a resin kit either.
That was a very informative video....lots of great pics and a commentary to match. You're probably itching to start this build as we are to seeing the progress. Thanks for sharing, MN.
I really am! I'm trying to hold back and maintain the disciplone to clear my desk of current projects first though! Most of them, at least!
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Thanks Robin
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Thanks