It's a shame. I heard it was originally gonna be part of a warbond. But it seems highly likely Sony intervened last second. I'm hoping community feedback lets the prices drop back down just a bit Edit: Just some further thoughts. The name of the warbond the Killzone Collab was originally gonna be part of was Righteous Revenants. If you don't believe me just look it up. Grinding Super Credits has and always will be a great thing, but idk solely dedicating myself to running around for an hour or two is boring. Call me lazy, but I rather just farm credits naturally by playing level 10 missions. But I guess I shouldn't complain if I can't put the hours in. Also, I think selling weapons in the superstore is bad. The armors were excusable since you can get the same passives in the warbonds and they are excellent drip. Weapons though, can be a bit dicey because Arrowhead has to make sure it's not pay to win. If the new AR was a cosmetic skin for something like the Liberator then I couldn't care less. But it's an entirely new weapon with different stats so I'm just a lil afraid at what that could mean for the future. Same thing if they decided to start selling strategems in the superstore.
You can get it without spending a dime of your own money, just play the damn game. It's a crossover that needs licensing expenses in order to exist. Genuinely a stupid thing to whine about.
@@jeremybabish2730you do realize nobody is gonna take you seriously when you try to make yourself seem intelligent and condescending probably just belittle you ppl like you are fun to belittle
‘Trivial’ is difficulty 1. Difficultly 3 is apparently your best bang for buck in terms of PoIs though, just a few more enemies tho of course. Just quit the match after looting most and do it again.
Isaiah 41:10 - "So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
@@josephsmith688 problem is them promising no pay to win and now going down that route. soon every item in the game will be for real money if they make money from this
@@josephsmith688 are you a child who gets everything bought by mommy or are you a millionaire? Anyone who works for their own money and has a working brain with an adult sense of value should have a problem with how ridiculously expensive microtransactions in games have gotten. What does not being a competitive game have to do with anything? Shits not worth the price they charge for it, that's the issue.
People complaining that they don't get all the new items for free just for existing shouldn't dissuade them, super credits can be acquired in game without spending any real money if you didn't know
@@s_t_r_a_y_e_dPeople keep saying this without any evidence. Arrowhead made a live service game, they are designed to monetize users: You're lying to yourself
My problem is that these rotate and you have to get them quickly before they’re gone. You’re pressured to spend money so you don’t miss out. If they were always available for purchase, I would really have no problem with it.
I have mixed feelings about this. I like premium armour, I don't even mind it being more expensive because it's a collab set. But that price point is insane! Almost 2 warbonds for an armour set (with a sick passive, mixed feelings about that too) and a good weapon. CRAZY PRICE
My feelings aren't mixed at all, almost double the price for less content than a warbond(and that's not counting the fact that Warbonds also give you super credits back) is absolutely ridiculous. These are some F2P prices in a 40 dollar game.
More importantly, it's the first time we've had actual FOMO in the game. Warbonds are always there, you can buy them at any point down the road. A colab set in the super store, though? We don't know if it'll ever come back.
Maaaan I don't like having new weapons being sold in a store on rotation same as the Baton I wish they'd put it in a new Warbond or something instead... Really cool stuff though, love the designs, especially the AR
it looks like it was supposed to be a warbond called Righteous Revenants, but it was changed for whatever reason. The devs did say they're going to rework how the superstore works since the rotation is starting to get really long, so I wouldnt worry too much about that
@@udontknowme00 my guess is, that sony, who also owns Killzone wanted a rather high cost for the warbond prob what all the items now cost individuelly (ca 20$), but now you can buy just what you want(armor and weapon). I guess it was a middleground compromise beteen AH and Sony
@@udontknowme00 That's good to hear they're already looking at the rotating store problem. I guess they're experimenting to see if people will buy stuff in the super store instead of warbonds and seeing what people will pay for them. Guess all the stockpiled SC players farmed at release is hurting their ongoing revenue if they have to resort to upping the price like this 😅
At this point most people want the game have bought the game, sony wants long term profits and adding more purchases means it's harder to get everything by grinding, meaning more people will buy credits.
I don't really think it's an issue until they offer something that is op to the point of necessity or if it was for a limited time, which to my knowledge AH stated that would not be the case with any Super Store rotations. That and if they ever had some form of PVP in the game to where it became pay to win.
Honestly don’t like that their are weapons outside of the warbonds that can disappear for long stretches of time and the armour is even more of a problem should have been in a killzone warbond
I just don't understand why this wasn't just a free crossover event where we could just complete a few challenges and enjoy the new gear. A cool cosmetic event after months of fumbles would give a lot more goodwill especially with the illuminate being released so well.
it is obvious considering the stun baton was around 200SC, this is from SONY IP and those bastard need to recoup their losses from the failure that is Concord. sorta expect SONY from now on will do more scummy shit to helldivers and we players should ready for that
@ryanlink8699 I genuinely can't tell if this is bait or if you're just stpd, I'm gonna say both, but regardless it was supposed to be a warbond and suddenly on release it's "premium items" if this doesn't yell Sony then I'm the queen of England
@@pricefieldx Screenshot taken straight from their Discord: Q: "Does Sony influence the decision of what price the in game items should be?" A: "of course -it's a partnership - but we are in the driving seat behind the decisions. this one is on us." I don't know if they're obligated by contract to not point blame at Sony or if the community manager just spoke the truth... but yeah.
Nice to find someone who grinds supe creds but also understands that most people dont have the time and energy to do what feels like a mind numbing chore.
“Dude just spend all your time in diff three running around doing nothing” I would rather literally get a new job to fill that time and get more money. I want to play Helldivers 2, not metal detector simulator
bro they can just spend a couple hours a night doing it. and im not meaning every day. ive been shitting out credits since the new update like nothing. They just gotta know how to properly farm. Moo Deng chart baby, IYKYK.
You can farm 1000 credits in a few hours at the moment. The "premium" currency is only premium if you have more money than time, which a lot of people do.
It's typical arrowhead game design. They spend hundreds of hours making sure magazine model reflects number of bullets, give different reload animations to full vs empty chamber, but lmao they ship an underbarrel that's purely useless. Oh, let me guess, the underbarrel launcher is also "just a ceremonial weapon" ?????
It ain't an M203, just a weirdly shaped handguard. The StA-52 actually has an underslung shotgun in Killzone 1, but not in Killzone 2 and 3 - the one in Helldivers 2 is based on the latter, which is kind of a missed opportunity.
you literally can get Super credits playing the game, super store items are never 'PRIORITY' items, those be warbonds. Everything in Suepr Store, War bond will have better.
im just happy to pay for anything killzone related, was my childhood and i will always miss those times. Happy to see that SOMETIMES sony remembers killzone. Im just happy so for me its worth
would have preferred some sort of actual event, or atleast a warbond. though I presume the reason it's not a warbond is to make it more expensive. Assuming the second wave is about the same total price as the first it's about 4k SC (40USD). I'll be a little more charitable than I really should be since SCs are grindable, imo the crossover is overpriced.
@@ator181All of the warbond stuff are basically cosmetics with some useful stratagems but I wouldn’t call it “content”. The real content we got was the illuminate invasion which was 100% free and accessible to every player. The killzone stuff is higher price because it’s premium crossover cosmetics. The rifle itself isn’t that much better than the regular liberator so I’m not sure why people are crying about this.
@@themissingpeace7956 you're welcome to disagree on semantics, we can just call the crossover weapons armors and cosmetics, and warbond rewards, items if you'd prefer. the crossover doesn't justify the magnitude of price increase it has gotten imo. value is of course subjective and you're welcome to buy them if it's worth it for you, but for me they're not.
The gun not having a scope makes it a little awkward. I think those iron sights are crud, and the liberator carbine and the smgs give you at least a red dot. So ill stick with one of them.
Voteless swarms let you get away with light armor pen weapons. I save my support weapon for the overseers/harvesters and use my primary to mow down the zombies
@@epicgamerzfail4575 yeah maybe they will add a unit that buffs the voteless to make them insanely fast or something like that, as long as you take out HVT the zombies aren't a threat. Much easier than having too many bots or bugs alive.
While I do think the prices are slightly overtuned, directly comparing them to warbonds isn't entirely accurate. Mainly because of the fact that warbonds require medals to get through whereas when you get something from the super store, you get that item immediately. When you factor in the collab tax and the capability to earn SC naturally, it's not THAT far off. Having them be in warbonds would look better though.
Every gaming company that thinks 20$ (1/3rd the cost of a full price game) is a good starting point for skins is literally mentally ill. I'm loving marvel rivals ATM and it's the same thing like I know you need to make your money but JESUS CHRIST 20$ to get Thor to have a cape???
While I don’t like the overpriced items either( I don’t buy sc anyway so I don’t really mind that much)this is just incorrect, where the hell did you get that number from?
and the fact that both items are objectively bad picks against pretty much every enemy in the game. Saying the gun is good against voteless means literally nothing.
I don’t mind it being expensive + in the shop. But locking the armour passive behind the expensive armour???? Hell nah. They gotta make another armour that adds that passive.
don't worry, when you actually analyze it the armor passive is trash. No enemy in the game does acid damage (bile spew from titans and spewers is explosive) and no enemy currently does more than one type of the elemental damages. So you are running an inferior version of the dedicated armors just incase you get hit with friendly fire.
@@PRC533 I disagree after testing it the armor passive is great for randoms queue. its a jack of trades passive, also switching back and forth for great armor passive type sounds like hell of a chore. Ill quote you on this "no enemy currently does more than one type of the elemental damages". You forgot ENVIRONMENT that deals element damage like fire tornado, explosions with flames also dealing with acid bug and electric from illuminates at the same time. Clearly, you didn't thought of this...
@@divinedragonkirr By the way, bugs don't do acid damage, bile spew is explosive from all the enemies that do it. So if you like to plan to get friendly fired to the point that you are taking armor just for it then go ahead. You're really stretching to make it useful by pulling in the fire tornados too lol but you do you.
@@PRC533 I get it. You poor, you have no money that's why you bad mouthing the passive. I remind you that its the only armor that has acid resistance passive. I said environment damage and I given out fire tornado as one example. We all know many have died in fire damage coz of buffs they made for it. lmao you're the one who's stretching it cause clearly you can't afford it.
@@carsontinglerI’m starting to think the only reason they added the ability to occasionally find super credits was so that idiots like you defend every price hike no matter what because you can technically grind it. This singular assault rifle costs more than half of a warbond. That is strictly a rip off, and I will not accept any buts about it.
@donovanjoseph737 dude, you dont need to buy it. You dont get some magical p2w advantage that you cant live without, you literally can just farm diff3 missions for a little bit
@@donovanjoseph737indeed. Before I didn’t care. Everything in the premium shop was just cosmetic versions of warbond gear and warbonds are all 1k. That’s fine because there is a lot of content for 1k and I’m fine with that grind but nearly TWO warbond’s worth of SC for the full set, well that is something that would make up 1/3 of a warbond since armor+helm+cape+weapon+banner+emblem is one page of a warbond with 3 pages. Ridiculous.
I just hope the Whales didn't all shell out 20 bucks to buy it... if Sony doesn't see an up tick in suoer credit purchases from this, they likely won't do it in the future. I wish this was a mini-war bond, maybe 4-500 super credits for a single page packed with the weapon and armor.
Nobody is paying for super credits to buy this lol, they gave us 5 days to grind out super credits for a reason. Within 4 hours of grinding i already bought the rifle, helmet, and the tag.
@yrenren9740 I have already bought the entirety of the page, and still hold more and planning to grind for future things. Farming may be taxing, but it ain't hard if you know where to farm exactly.
Just so you ppl know, this is part of a phenomenon of games under Sony recently having egregious monetisation because Concord flopped so badly and losing minimum $100M and Sony wants to recoup that by increasing stuff like this. We have evidence that it was planned to be a regular warbond (banner)
A lot of people are talking about the pricepoint, but nobody is talking about how it's based on the fear of missing out. We don't know when it'll come back into rotation, it could be a year from now for all we know. This is inherently predatory and it's no surprise that it was paired with the massive price increase.
@@Zek-vd4zf Who's to say they won't make an exception? The point is if you give an inch, a company will take a mile. If you want things to get better, you have to express it or things will get worse.
@@RedshirtAfficionado when it won't be predictable and fixed anymore then i'll complain even more. I hate the rotating stuff too and i'm not defending it, i'm just stating how it works as of now :)
Correction: bile titans and bile spewers do explosive damage. The only source of acid damage in the game currently is players. The armor set is actually one of the worst in the game because against any particular faction, you are only exposed to a single type of the damage types. Illuminate obviously have electrical damage and automatons have fire. Terminids have neither. So against any particular faction, you are better off going for the 75% resistance the dedicated resist armors give you. Otherwise, you're basically just planning on taking team or self inflicted damage which isn't all that well mitigated. The AR is a liberator, so it's pretty mid at best. The iron sights on it are atrocious to the point that I would never ADS with it. Overall, I don't care what they want to charge for stuff like this because it's all mid to bad gear. I guess if you really like the look that's another thing, but I've never heard of killzone before so it does nothing for me.
I think the fact that the new AR only has shitty ironsights whereas all the other roughly equivalent weapons have proper optics including variable zoom scopes warrants a mention
As an AR the gun is actually great but with the price to unlock it, it's not worth it. The fact that it has grenade launcher but you can't use it is also disappointing. They should've given it at least 3 GL shots.
Please don't let sony get comfortable with the concept of making helldivers pay to play. Premium warbonds are *fine* but this is a whole new level of nickle and diming people. It would be at least nice to increase the rate of sc drops if they're going to do this. Until they do theres no way I'm buying this.
Through carefully calculating these weapons via my *super* 🤓 EXCEL spreadsheet, assuming velocity is the same as the Liberator/Lib-Carbine (900m/s) -- the DPS (at full auto), it performs about 19% better than a Liberator, 16% worse than a Carbine, and 44.76% worse than a Tenderizer (set to 850 RPM). Overall a bit middling in damage but solid at fair ranges. Of course, compared to something like the Concussive it's actually a whopping 62% more DPS. Damage wise (Taking median into account between 0m and 500m), it is smack dab in the middle between liberator and carbine. If you take into account when the magazine empties (4.25 seconds), this weapon does the most damage out of all assault rifles in the game based solely on spending the entire magazine at 3612.5 damage. Funny enough, the only other AR that comes close is the Concussive, at 3566.25 damage in 11.25 seconds for one full mag's worth of damage. Ammo conservation fairs a bit better, boasting that larger magazine. Lasting nearly twice as long as the tenderizer, 1.25 seconds faster than the Carbine, and is identical to the liberator at 4.25 seconds firing time. As expected the Concussive is the GOAT of ammo conservation with a massive 164.71% better time-to-reload value. So at full auto, it's about 19% better than the liberator in both DPS and damage by empty. It is about 16% worse DPS than a Carbine, but 17.83% better in damage by empty. Tenderizer is 44.76% better at DPS, but 14.84% worse at damage by empty. Full chart below, probably will get garbled by youtube, rip. 🤓 After 1 second of firing (DPS) Distance (m) StA Tenderizer Liberator Carbine Penetrator Concus. Adjudicator 0 922 1346 747 1074 640 347 825 1 922 1346 747 1073 640 347 825 10 919 1341 744 1070 638 346 822 15 914 1334 741 1065 636 344 818 20 908 1324 736 1058 632 341 812 25 901 1312 730 1049 627 338 804 50 886 1288 718 1031 618 332 790 75 864 1253 700 1006 604 323 768 100 836 1208 677 973 586 311 741 150 795 1144 644 926 560 294 701 200 744 1063 603 866 528 273 652 250 684 970 554 797 490 248 595 300 619 869 502 721 448 222 533 350 551 765 446 642 403 195 469 400 482 661 391 562 357 168 405 500 408 550 331 475 308 139 338 Shots Fired: 13 14 11 15 11 5 9 Median: 850 1230 689 990 595 317 755 Difference (%): - 45 -19 16 -30 -63 -11 Time 'til Reload (s): 4.25 2.5 4.25 3 4.25 11.25 3.25 Difference (%): - -41 0 -29 0 165 -24 Damage by Empty: 3613 3076 2926 2969 2529 3566 2452 Difference (%): - -15 -19 -18 -30 -1 -32
they should have made a unique killzone warbond, charging so much for individual items feels scummy even knowing that they have to charge more for the license
I can sum up your 9+ min video: 1) if you’ve ever used fire resistant armor, just imagine it being less effective. 2) imagine being killed in 2 shots from an arc weapon instead 1… vs just being immune to it with arc resistant armor 3) who is honestly standing in their own gas cloud for more than 1 second anyway? 4) another AP2 AR? Pass. Light AP weapons are all trash and have no place beyond difficulty 4. 5) $20??? Are you kidding me???
@ yeah if you’re going to use something like an AR it really has to be either Reprimand or Adjudicator. Rep will do better up close. Adjudicator will feel better out to med range.
1) imagine how much less you would die from having monkey brained pyromaniac teammates if you had a couple extra seconds to go prone and save yourself. it's not meant for prolonged burning. You just don't get how fire works in terms of the player's interactions with it. 2) Pretty much the only time I ever die these days is because of one shots. A 50% increase to how long you can stay alive is legitimately insane. 3) Have you ever heard of gas mines my good sir? 4) If you still think light ap weapons are trash arrowhead literally wasted the buffdvers updates on people like you. I'm a daily super helldive player and the tenderizer is the only primary I would ever consider running for the terminids, its absolutely s tier. Go use a light ap weapon before telling me it's ass because clearly you haven't and are just some "find the meta" shmuck. 5) 20$ dollars?????? Try 0$ and just play the fucking game. Stop acting like they're not just literally sitting there in points of interest. I've never bought super credits and have all the war bonds except 1 and have never felt like I couldn't pick up a new helmet or armor from the super store if I wanted to. Yeah the super store is bigger now and costs more to get everything, but if you care about that, just get the stuff that affects gameplay, and all the sudden it costs half the super credits.
@@TheWhelmster 1) avoiding fire is the best defense against it. If your idiot team mates insist on brining it then stay away from them. 2) that’s a silly counter argument. There’s no comparison between taking half dmg and being practically immune 3) yes and you just… go around them… 4) yeah I would still say the tenderizer is crap compared to things like the Purifier, explosive crossbow, Blitzer, and Scorcher. You can clear trash mobs with AP2 weapons just fine but you’re incapable of quickly and easily dealing with anything with medium armor. Adjudicator is an objectively better weapon. 5) the only reason to buy this crap is if you were a diehard Killzone fan.
2 warbond in a row YES, but THAT, HELL NO ! I really hope with this drama it will become a regular Warbond at 1000 as every other. If not, Sony and ArrowHead GFY !
it being on the superstore AND only available there is a big red flag for me. i dunno if arrowhead learned the greedy part of the big companies or if sony stepped in. this is not good. sure, we can talk about how you can grind out SCs, but you cant take away the big bullshit that is FOMO. people will buy SC for real money because they dont know when the armor will be back on the shop. is it just one rotation? will it be random when it's next on the rotation? waiting for a random day to have it on the shop again sucks either way. they know how to trigger FOMO and this is a big one and absolutely unhealthy. i'm no doomsayer, but when i see signs, i point em out. that's your 2,50$ skyrim shop mount-armor right there
I’m still gonna buy the armor regardless. It already cosmetically look better than the dreadnought armor that makes me look like a puffy boi. If I could change the color of my armor then yea I would run the dreadnought more but it sucks that the first flame armor in the war bond looks a lot cooler but the armor rating is really small
Honestly, I would just wait till the next superstore rotation, the Armor set just looks better, and I’m sure the weapon would be way more worth it; plus with the feedback of fellow helldivers, I’m sure the price would drop next rotation 😅
Weapons in a warbond is a slippery slope, but I didn't think it'd get to this so soon. Exclusive primary and passive limited until the next rotation? I don't care what the price is, that is fucking ridiculous.
It does possess one distinct drawback compared to the liberator- it does not have a scope or a laser sight, which means using the weapon at further ranges both in ADS and third person is significantly more difficult. One big plus of the liberator IS that you can use it as a sort of mini-marksman rifle if you really need to
Yeah these aren’t worth it in terms of price to what we get. Should be a $10 deal at most like warbonds, given the amount of content in them in comparison.
The game made over 5x it's budget in the first 12 weeks after launch just based off sales alone plus super credit purchase's on top of that. Arrowhead is doing just fine
They weren't already? They had one of the highest player count since launch (210,000 players approximately), remember that each has paid 40USD to play which means 2 days ago 8.4million USD worth of gamers was present and if just 10% bought the warbond that's an additional 840,000 USD. They made their money, now it's just objective greed because all of the previously mentioned is far more than enough to continue operations for a long time and develop future content. No, they just seen they could make money being good people then found out they can make far more being horrible. 20 to 40 USD assuming the next rotation in the store is similarly priced for the content of what normally is in a warbond is a 4x price increase AND they're using "FOMO" (Fear of missing out) because who knows when the hell the stuff is reappearing in the store.
The WASP is definitely an anti medium oriented weapon but it can deal with the harvesters in a pinch. Spam it with the swarm mode instead of using the artillery mode than it should go down with 2 canisters assuming you get the shields down first. Artillery mode is for grouped up enemis, so ATM primarily an Overseer in the middle of a bunch of Voteless.
I’m cool with it being in the superstore. The more unique items are in rotation the more incentive you have to keep playing the game and paying attention to super credits found in-mission. The ONLY complaint I have is the SC costs are stupid. It almost costs as much as 2 warbonds to get everything.
If I remember correctly, this armor is currently the only armor in the game that will protect you from the bug's acid attacks. The only ones we have so far do fire, gas or electric.
hitting the weak spots on hive guards is so easy that i don't even consider light pen an issue on bugs. I mostly just take the carbine so maybe i'll splurge for this or maybe i'll vote with my super creds n hold back
The rifle is better than people think. No other assault rifle hits hard like the liberator while having the mag size to clear an entire crowd of illuminate zombies. It's by far my favorite primary, but I did hate having to pay so much for it.
Reload speed or peak physique is far more impactful as long as the first continues to work for support weapons, and the latter apply to the "shooting" keybind. Imho.
Part of me wonders if it'd be fair to consider this weapon and armor set sort of a.. "dad gamer" set. As you point out the weapon itself falls inbetween existing assault rifles but with bigger clip size --> easier for people with worse accuracy and/or timing to reload between waves. As for the armor set I currently feel like it's a "baby-diver" friendly armor. it's utility excels if you expect to be caught off guard by flamehulks, bile titans/spewers etc. However if you're already trained and excel to avoid getting hit you wont get as much value from the perk. Edit: Thank you for the showcase btw @takibo ! Real informative as I have neither superstore items yet.
holy shit why is EVERYONE crybabies here, lmao either get ur super credits by playing the game, don’t buy the damn set, or just delete the game if you don’t like pricey collab stuff, oh yeah ITS A F*CKING COLLAB, yall thinking like they’re gonna ramp the prices of normal stuff, literally for almost a year this has never happened, and the collab is the first ever in this game they’re for sure gonna take notes about how yall crybabies feel, and yes they have already said that in a post, literally if you don’t like the price or whatever, DONT BUY IT
Hi Takibo, is there a way I could know your game settings and your pcs hardware? I am currently wondering why my game is so doo doo even tho i got some nice hardware, my brother who build the pc is also confused so I am wondering what your using for the game to look so cool while having amazing fps
imagine if they released a star wars crossover where you could get boba fett's armor and there was a wrist rocket secondary and an upgraded jetpack that could hover for a few seconds
I think they should change bile chargers so that instead of exploding with enough damage to one shot you when you kill them they leave a gas cloud with all the same code as a gas grenade
I'm sorry, but... did I just hear Liberator Concussive slander? I think a lot of people remember the old version that completely sucked, but it's an excellent horde clear weapon now. It has 20 damage less in total than the StA-52 in a mag, and is super controllable. I urge you and everyone to give it a try again. It was a pleasant surprise when I picked it up, and the small stun effect actually means a lot against Illuminate Overseers and the like.
For online I can see why that armor is pretty good, but I skipped on it because I mostly rock Light Armor instead. Ugh, can’t wait to pay for a Light Armor version eventually for the acid resistance alone.
I think Helldivers 2 has been declining ever since AH changed CEOs, a shift that it's been plaguing their game ever since. We've been getting free updates for a long time but the quality of warbonds and superstore cosmetics hasn't decreased until recently, and by recently I mean since The Viper Commandos update and onwards. For example, The Illuminate, although already being such a fun faction to fight; lack units. The Harvester is more akin to a Hulk from the Automatons or a Charger from the Terminids, and we don't have an equivalent to the Tank or Bile Titan from the previously mentioned factions. Not only that but the last warbond is an insult to us, players and consumers. Only a single weapon and it's a spear. Sure, it's really nice seeing the addition of melee weapons into the game, but it's just ridiculous they could only think of adding THAT to the warbond in terms of weapons. Worse still, they keep insisting on artificially filling the warbonds with junk like hellpod, pelican and mech skins and stratagems. Before we used to get stratagems free under new updates or after completing a directive from Super Earth, like it was in the case of the mech. Now they make us either pay or grind for warbonds that are shrinking in overall content and worse being filled with junk cosmetics to not appear as empty. All of these updates work to make their efforts cheaper and give us a worse and, as a result, more expansive product that we have not pushed back against. We used to get between two or three guns per warbond, three full sets of armour per warbond too. Now it's not the same story. Helldivers 2 is changing, people. We can't let them make this game worse just for greed.
Idk if anyone’s actually caught on yet or not but for the illuminate guards and jet packers take out the leg armor and legs, wayyyy easier than the head and chest
Pretty sure part 1 and 2 combined are going to cost more than the game itself for less than we get in a standard warbond. As someone who played the heck out of the first game and knows arrowheads track record, you gotta be careful who you do business with. This is insane.
I said F it and bought it - full set (armor, helmet and cape) look absolutely unreal when running through a snowstorm fighting the illuminate. Worth it to me but I def agree it should have been a free unlock.
It's a shame. I heard it was originally gonna be part of a warbond. But it seems highly likely Sony intervened last second. I'm hoping community feedback lets the prices drop back down just a bit
Edit: Just some further thoughts. The name of the warbond the Killzone Collab was originally gonna be part of was Righteous Revenants. If you don't believe me just look it up. Grinding Super Credits has and always will be a great thing, but idk solely dedicating myself to running around for an hour or two is boring. Call me lazy, but I rather just farm credits naturally by playing level 10 missions. But I guess I shouldn't complain if I can't put the hours in. Also, I think selling weapons in the superstore is bad. The armors were excusable since you can get the same passives in the warbonds and they are excellent drip. Weapons though, can be a bit dicey because Arrowhead has to make sure it's not pay to win. If the new AR was a cosmetic skin for something like the Liberator then I couldn't care less. But it's an entirely new weapon with different stats so I'm just a lil afraid at what that could mean for the future. Same thing if they decided to start selling strategems in the superstore.
no need to bomb the game just dont buy it and they will ignore feedback, look at their spreadsheets and do what the spreadsheets say.
You can get it without spending a dime of your own money, just play the damn game. It's a crossover that needs licensing expenses in order to exist. Genuinely a stupid thing to whine about.
the reviews just get AH punished, if you wanna punish Sony, yes dont buy it
@@jeremybabish2730you do realize nobody is gonna take you seriously when you try to make yourself seem intelligent and condescending probably just belittle you ppl like you are fun to belittle
Not reviews
600 SC is simply madness, at least boost the drop rate of SC
just go farm trivial missions for like half an hour
Oh boy, I sure like to grind in my fullprice game to access new content. I surely have nothing else to do but to do repetitive tasks for hours on end.
@@carsontingler for real, took me less then a day to farm 1-2 warbonds, people are just mad because they lazy to farm
@@carsontinglerwhat trivial missions?
‘Trivial’ is difficulty 1.
Difficultly 3 is apparently your best bang for buck in terms of PoIs though, just a few more enemies tho of course. Just quit the match after looting most and do it again.
Short answer is NO.
Long answer is HELL NO.
NOT JUSTIFIED❌❌
yeh but
glowing eyes helmet
I must become a member of the wolf's brigade/helghast
I must strike fear in the enemies of mankind
@@theutheone 🐑Little sheepy boy says "Yes Sony, it's OK to make super expensive micro-transactions! I'll pay!" 🐑
@@theutheone simp
Isaiah 41:10 - "So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
I'm not paying double the price of a normal Warbond for less content.
Paid weapons set a bad precedent
But due to all the crying in here it seems like you and everyone else has to pay for it 🤣
It's no competitive game. Where would the problem be anyway?
@@josephsmith688 problem is them promising no pay to win and now going down that route. soon every item in the game will be for real money if they make money from this
@@josephsmith688 are you a child who gets everything bought by mommy or are you a millionaire? Anyone who works for their own money and has a working brain with an adult sense of value should have a problem with how ridiculously expensive microtransactions in games have gotten. What does not being a competitive game have to do with anything? Shits not worth the price they charge for it, that's the issue.
Thats a horrible justifaction because people are complaining that these prices are on par with that of a warbond 😅 @josephsmith688
@@reilynn7891 But you can get it for free in Heldivers so where problem?
1975 credits for the whole thing is absurd, and they've got another wave coming? i hope they're reading the steam discussions
its not AH, its Sony. Both are Sony IP's and both are completely powerless to fight against it without severe legal and financial punishment
People complaining that they don't get all the new items for free just for existing shouldn't dissuade them, super credits can be acquired in game without spending any real money if you didn't know
@@s_t_r_a_y_e_dPeople keep saying this without any evidence. Arrowhead made a live service game, they are designed to monetize users: You're lying to yourself
With this much backlash hopefully all future war bonds will be warbond.
My problem is that these rotate and you have to get them quickly before they’re gone. You’re pressured to spend money so you don’t miss out. If they were always available for purchase, I would really have no problem with it.
I have mixed feelings about this. I like premium armour, I don't even mind it being more expensive because it's a collab set. But that price point is insane! Almost 2 warbonds for an armour set (with a sick passive, mixed feelings about that too) and a good weapon. CRAZY PRICE
I agree. They should not lock weapons and armor passives behind paywalls this expensive. It goes against the "fair price" they showed all those months
I'm still completely blown away that only one armor set offers a 30% throwing distance increase for strategems.
My feelings aren't mixed at all, almost double the price for less content than a warbond(and that's not counting the fact that Warbonds also give you super credits back) is absolutely ridiculous. These are some F2P prices in a 40 dollar game.
More importantly, it's the first time we've had actual FOMO in the game. Warbonds are always there, you can buy them at any point down the road. A colab set in the super store, though? We don't know if it'll ever come back.
@@kedolan4992they already said it will come back. It’ll just be put in the rotation so it could be a bit though
Maaaan I don't like having new weapons being sold in a store on rotation same as the Baton I wish they'd put it in a new Warbond or something instead...
Really cool stuff though, love the designs, especially the AR
it looks like it was supposed to be a warbond called Righteous Revenants, but it was changed for whatever reason. The devs did say they're going to rework how the superstore works since the rotation is starting to get really long, so I wouldnt worry too much about that
@@udontknowme00 my guess is, that sony, who also owns Killzone wanted a rather high cost for the warbond prob what all the items now cost individuelly (ca 20$), but now you can buy just what you want(armor and weapon). I guess it was a middleground compromise beteen AH and Sony
@@udontknowme00 That's good to hear they're already looking at the rotating store problem.
I guess they're experimenting to see if people will buy stuff in the super store instead of warbonds and seeing what people will pay for them. Guess all the stockpiled SC players farmed at release is hurting their ongoing revenue if they have to resort to upping the price like this 😅
At this point most people want the game have bought the game, sony wants long term profits and adding more purchases means it's harder to get everything by grinding, meaning more people will buy credits.
I don't really think it's an issue until they offer something that is op to the point of necessity or if it was for a limited time, which to my knowledge AH stated that would not be the case with any Super Store rotations. That and if they ever had some form of PVP in the game to where it became pay to win.
Honestly don’t like that their are weapons outside of the warbonds that can disappear for long stretches of time and the armour is even more of a problem should have been in a killzone warbond
It _was_ ... Sony butted 8n from the looks of it.
I just don't understand why this wasn't just a free crossover event where we could just complete a few challenges and enjoy the new gear. A cool cosmetic event after months of fumbles would give a lot more goodwill especially with the illuminate being released so well.
This decision has Sony's dirty paws all over it.
The answer is money
Because Sony dumped an ungodly amount of money into concord that they are scrambling to recuperate it.
it's SONY....they need to recoup their losses from their big failure that is CONCORD
@@ZzVinniezZ Yeah, I heard people been calling it Concord Tax these days, sigh
Im just glad most people understand this has Sony written all over this
it is obvious considering the stun baton was around 200SC, this is from SONY IP and those bastard need to recoup their losses from the failure that is Concord. sorta expect SONY from now on will do more scummy shit to helldivers and we players should ready for that
@@ZzVinniezZyea seeing as how it's a sony game I'd say you're captain obvious. It can also be obtained for FREE. stop beating a dead horse
No it doesn’t. Arrowhead opened the can of worms for crossovers. Thats 100% their fault, not Sony. Arrowhead greed caused this.
@ryanlink8699 I genuinely can't tell if this is bait or if you're just stpd, I'm gonna say both, but regardless it was supposed to be a warbond and suddenly on release it's "premium items" if this doesn't yell Sony then I'm the queen of England
@@pricefieldx Screenshot taken straight from their Discord:
Q: "Does Sony influence the decision of what price the in game items should be?"
A: "of course -it's a partnership - but we are in the driving seat behind the decisions. this one is on us."
I don't know if they're obligated by contract to not point blame at Sony or if the community manager just spoke the truth... but yeah.
Sucks this was a freemium thing, I'm lucky I grinded a shit tonne of super credits but not everyone has the time for that
Nice to find someone who grinds supe creds but also understands that most people dont have the time and energy to do what feels like a mind numbing chore.
Exactly my problem I manage to get 1 campaign completed in a night due to time constraints makes farming sc really hard
“Dude just spend all your time in diff three running around doing nothing” I would rather literally get a new job to fill that time and get more money. I want to play Helldivers 2, not metal detector simulator
bro they can just spend a couple hours a night doing it. and im not meaning every day. ive been shitting out credits since the new update like nothing. They just gotta know how to properly farm. Moo Deng chart baby, IYKYK.
@@leelime9857 bro just do trivial 1 difficulty, you wont get sc/medal any faster with higher difficulties.
It's sad to see so many people buying into this nonsense. 1 armor set and weapon for the same price as two war bonds is insane. Sony do better.
Thought we had to buy it. From all the outcry here is seems mandatory 😉
honestly, their money, their problem
You can farm 1000 credits in a few hours at the moment. The "premium" currency is only premium if you have more money than time, which a lot of people do.
@josephsmoth688 Pea brained response ngl. “It’s not mandatory” isn’t a good excuse for shitty practices
@@stephenartigues6027 I didn't lose anything with this. No cent, no battle^^ You: Lots of tears it seems.
Yeah, whoever put the price at 2000 credits need a mouth full of democracy… managed democracy
It was Sony but at the same time it's not difficult to obtain it.
My ass could grind an hour straight and either the correct straight and get around 3000 SC. So it's not hard to get just time consuming.
@RYZEN-4070-TI-SUPER-OCbro if you can get 3000 credits in an hour please enlighten me or let me come wit you
Some Sony exec saw the cod bundle prices and said “yeah that’s fair “
@RYZEN-4070-TI-SUPER-OC how do you get 3k SC in an hour?
Wasn't this suppose to be a Warbond on leaks? Feels like Sony is trying to get back some money from the Concord failure using Helldivers 2 store.
yea its obvious. Sony's milking their golden goose (HD2) for recovering their budget from Concord.
I love killzone but I’m not doing this.
We need remakes, love playing botzone since the servers are shut down
I love seeing killzone come back!
Bro I got the video notification on my phone and it said “Helldivers 2’s First Premium Ass” thought I was trippin lol
That will be next warbond 😂
Sony needs $$
The eagle one warbond. Premium battle ass.
I do wish it was a bit cheaper, that new passive is nuts though. I hope we get a light armor variant in the second half
Having an M203 grenade launcher on the gun and not being able to fire grenades is such a jebait
It's typical arrowhead game design. They spend hundreds of hours making sure magazine model reflects number of bullets, give different reload animations to full vs empty chamber, but lmao they ship an underbarrel that's purely useless.
Oh, let me guess, the underbarrel launcher is also "just a ceremonial weapon" ?????
Are y’all stupid that’s a flashlight
I think it’s just a flashlight
Kinda like how the mp5 can have a light in the handguard
What weapon exactly are you talking about?
It ain't an M203, just a weirdly shaped handguard. The StA-52 actually has an underslung shotgun in Killzone 1, but not in Killzone 2 and 3 - the one in Helldivers 2 is based on the latter, which is kind of a missed opportunity.
Completely ridiculous that they charge this much.
you literally can get Super credits playing the game, super store items are never 'PRIORITY' items, those be warbonds.
Everything in Suepr Store, War bond will have better.
concord tax
@@dualyst. asstrobot goty tax
They charge... nothing. Unless YOU want to spend money on it, everything in the game is free.
@@agp11001 40 usd game XDDDDDDDDD
im just happy to pay for anything killzone related, was my childhood and i will always miss those times. Happy to see that SOMETIMES sony remembers killzone. Im just happy so for me its worth
would have preferred some sort of actual event, or atleast a warbond. though I presume the reason it's not a warbond is to make it more expensive. Assuming the second wave is about the same total price as the first it's about 4k SC (40USD). I'll be a little more charitable than I really should be since SCs are grindable, imo the crossover is overpriced.
4k for all content, only about 2k for bare minimum, still not that good for less content than a warbond.
@@ator181All of the warbond stuff are basically cosmetics with some useful stratagems but I wouldn’t call it “content”. The real content we got was the illuminate invasion which was 100% free and accessible to every player. The killzone stuff is higher price because it’s premium crossover cosmetics. The rifle itself isn’t that much better than the regular liberator so I’m not sure why people are crying about this.
@@themissingpeace7956 you're welcome to disagree on semantics, we can just call the crossover weapons armors and cosmetics, and warbond rewards, items if you'd prefer. the crossover doesn't justify the magnitude of price increase it has gotten imo. value is of course subjective and you're welcome to buy them if it's worth it for you, but for me they're not.
The gun not having a scope makes it a little awkward. I think those iron sights are crud, and the liberator carbine and the smgs give you at least a red dot. So ill stick with one of them.
I don't bother with any primaries that don't have medium armor pen. Especially at difficulty 8 and up, pretty much useless unless you have insane aim.
You're right but my sickle don't miss.
Voteless swarms let you get away with light armor pen weapons. I save my support weapon for the overseers/harvesters and use my primary to mow down the zombies
@@epicgamerzfail4575 yeah maybe they will add a unit that buffs the voteless to make them insanely fast or something like that, as long as you take out HVT the zombies aren't a threat. Much easier than having too many bots or bugs alive.
While I do think the prices are slightly overtuned, directly comparing them to warbonds isn't entirely accurate. Mainly because of the fact that warbonds require medals to get through whereas when you get something from the super store, you get that item immediately. When you factor in the collab tax and the capability to earn SC naturally, it's not THAT far off. Having them be in warbonds would look better though.
Slightly ? lol...
20 bucks is pretty pricey for a cosmetic and a gun
A cosmetic and gun which doesn't out perform half the other armour sets and guns
The truth enforcers smg is better in every way than this.. @bostonarchie3194
Every gaming company that thinks 20$ (1/3rd the cost of a full price game) is a good starting point for skins is literally mentally ill. I'm loving marvel rivals ATM and it's the same thing like I know you need to make your money but JESUS CHRIST 20$ to get Thor to have a cape???
While I don’t like the overpriced items either( I don’t buy sc anyway so I don’t really mind that much)this is just incorrect, where the hell did you get that number from?
@@cairnethunderhoof6225at least marvel rivals is f2p. Hd2 has a $40 upfront cost, which makes the $20 even more egregious.
Kinda crazy that you're recommending either of these, given the unbelievable price point.
Price point is zero. Play the game, get SCs. Easy as that.
Yeah guys just no life the lower diff for hours on end. It's that easy.
and the fact that both items are objectively bad picks against pretty much every enemy in the game. Saying the gun is good against voteless means literally nothing.
I don’t mind it being expensive + in the shop.
But locking the armour passive behind the expensive armour???? Hell nah. They gotta make another armour that adds that passive.
Probably will but everyone is so reactionary but it doesn’t help that the first dev that responds is a Sony shill
don't worry, when you actually analyze it the armor passive is trash. No enemy in the game does acid damage (bile spew from titans and spewers is explosive) and no enemy currently does more than one type of the elemental damages. So you are running an inferior version of the dedicated armors just incase you get hit with friendly fire.
@@PRC533 I disagree after testing it the armor passive is great for randoms queue. its a jack of trades passive, also switching back and forth for great armor passive type sounds like hell of a chore. Ill quote you on this "no enemy currently does more than one type of the elemental damages". You forgot ENVIRONMENT that deals element damage like fire tornado, explosions with flames also dealing with acid bug and electric from illuminates at the same time. Clearly, you didn't thought of this...
@@divinedragonkirr By the way, bugs don't do acid damage, bile spew is explosive from all the enemies that do it. So if you like to plan to get friendly fired to the point that you are taking armor just for it then go ahead. You're really stretching to make it useful by pulling in the fire tornados too lol but you do you.
@@PRC533 I get it. You poor, you have no money that's why you bad mouthing the passive. I remind you that its the only armor that has acid resistance passive. I said environment damage and I given out fire tornado as one example. We all know many have died in fire damage coz of buffs they made for it. lmao you're the one who's stretching it cause clearly you can't afford it.
I hope that AR is aweare of the Dauntless Awakening fiasco.
With this new strat its really a teamwork thing, one person only needs to bring it other 3 can be AT, AS
They can spew out this kind of shit, but they can't fix the audio in the game crackling and being awful.
Also still no DLSS or FSR upscaling when even indie games can do it.
What platform are you on? Sounds fantastic on steam for me
@moogies3754 On steam as well, and it sounds absolutely atrocious whenever there are a lot of enemies or explosions
You're right I'm on PS5 and I don't even have any audio when playing against illuminates lol
That bug happened to me the first day of the illuminate update never ever experienced it until then but it was awful.
would really be cool if they gave us a non-collab equivalent for the armor and weapon so we can just earn it via gameplay
u can earn it via gameplay. u can find the premium currency in missions. just go farm trivial missions for like half an hour.
@@carsontinglerI’m starting to think the only reason they added the ability to occasionally find super credits was so that idiots like you defend every price hike no matter what because you can technically grind it.
This singular assault rifle costs more than half of a warbond. That is strictly a rip off, and I will not accept any buts about it.
I’m sure at some point they will, there aren’t any other armor passives that are one and done
@donovanjoseph737 dude, you dont need to buy it. You dont get some magical p2w advantage that you cant live without, you literally can just farm diff3 missions for a little bit
@@donovanjoseph737indeed. Before I didn’t care. Everything in the premium shop was just cosmetic versions of warbond gear and warbonds are all 1k. That’s fine because there is a lot of content for 1k and I’m fine with that grind but nearly TWO warbond’s worth of SC for the full set, well that is something that would make up 1/3 of a warbond since armor+helm+cape+weapon+banner+emblem is one page of a warbond with 3 pages.
Ridiculous.
I just hope the Whales didn't all shell out 20 bucks to buy it... if Sony doesn't see an up tick in suoer credit purchases from this, they likely won't do it in the future.
I wish this was a mini-war bond, maybe 4-500 super credits for a single page packed with the weapon and armor.
You ask that with all the MTX and FOMO practice we see in every (or so) game we have now ?! ... Sadly no, Whales bring us all to the wall !
Nobody is paying for super credits to buy this lol, they gave us 5 days to grind out super credits for a reason. Within 4 hours of grinding i already bought the rifle, helmet, and the tag.
@yrenren9740 I have already bought the entirety of the page, and still hold more and planning to grind for future things. Farming may be taxing, but it ain't hard if you know where to farm exactly.
@@breldredtheemperor Yeah, i can't wait for the plasma rifle next week.
Just so you ppl know, this is part of a phenomenon of games under Sony recently having egregious monetisation because Concord flopped so badly and losing minimum $100M and Sony wants to recoup that by increasing stuff like this. We have evidence that it was planned to be a regular warbond (banner)
"THE CONCORD TAX"
A lot of people are talking about the pricepoint, but nobody is talking about how it's based on the fear of missing out. We don't know when it'll come back into rotation, it could be a year from now for all we know. This is inherently predatory and it's no surprise that it was paired with the massive price increase.
The store has a fixed rotation, it’s completely predictable
@@Zek-vd4zf until it's not.
@@Zek-vd4zf Who's to say they won't make an exception?
The point is if you give an inch, a company will take a mile. If you want things to get better, you have to express it or things will get worse.
@@RedshirtAfficionado when it won't be predictable and fixed anymore then i'll complain even more. I hate the rotating stuff too and i'm not defending it, i'm just stating how it works as of now :)
Correction: bile titans and bile spewers do explosive damage. The only source of acid damage in the game currently is players. The armor set is actually one of the worst in the game because against any particular faction, you are only exposed to a single type of the damage types. Illuminate obviously have electrical damage and automatons have fire. Terminids have neither. So against any particular faction, you are better off going for the 75% resistance the dedicated resist armors give you. Otherwise, you're basically just planning on taking team or self inflicted damage which isn't all that well mitigated.
The AR is a liberator, so it's pretty mid at best. The iron sights on it are atrocious to the point that I would never ADS with it. Overall, I don't care what they want to charge for stuff like this because it's all mid to bad gear. I guess if you really like the look that's another thing, but I've never heard of killzone before so it does nothing for me.
I think the fact that the new AR only has shitty ironsights whereas all the other roughly equivalent weapons have proper optics including variable zoom scopes warrants a mention
Love this in depth video on the gun! Thanks for providing context along with all the details regarding the weapon!
a weapon and armor or an entire warbond, your choice
I got both, and I'm still set for the next 5 warbonds, so...
@@agp11001 either you've been grinding for 9 or so hours or you've bought premium currency, neither of which are viable for everyone
As an AR the gun is actually great but with the price to unlock it, it's not worth it. The fact that it has grenade launcher but you can't use it is also disappointing. They should've given it at least 3 GL shots.
So you're telling me, with this week's and next week's store, it'll cost about as much as buying Helldivers 2 to get this stuff?
Throwing £20 at something you can easily grind out within a day is genuinely insane. 😐But you do you.
@yrenren9740Right? People are overreacting…
Please don't let sony get comfortable with the concept of making helldivers pay to play. Premium warbonds are *fine* but this is a whole new level of nickle and diming people. It would be at least nice to increase the rate of sc drops if they're going to do this. Until they do theres no way I'm buying this.
The first time im disappointed with helldivers, warbonds are good but buying a gun at the half the price of a warbond is sad
/me, still using Democracy protects and the sickle
Through carefully calculating these weapons via my *super* 🤓 EXCEL spreadsheet, assuming velocity is the same as the Liberator/Lib-Carbine (900m/s) -- the DPS (at full auto), it performs about 19% better than a Liberator, 16% worse than a Carbine, and 44.76% worse than a Tenderizer (set to 850 RPM). Overall a bit middling in damage but solid at fair ranges. Of course, compared to something like the Concussive it's actually a whopping 62% more DPS.
Damage wise (Taking median into account between 0m and 500m), it is smack dab in the middle between liberator and carbine.
If you take into account when the magazine empties (4.25 seconds), this weapon does the most damage out of all assault rifles in the game based solely on spending the entire magazine at 3612.5 damage. Funny enough, the only other AR that comes close is the Concussive, at 3566.25 damage in 11.25 seconds for one full mag's worth of damage.
Ammo conservation fairs a bit better, boasting that larger magazine. Lasting nearly twice as long as the tenderizer, 1.25 seconds faster than the Carbine, and is identical to the liberator at 4.25 seconds firing time. As expected the Concussive is the GOAT of ammo conservation with a massive 164.71% better time-to-reload value. So at full auto, it's about 19% better than the liberator in both DPS and damage by empty. It is about 16% worse DPS than a Carbine, but 17.83% better in damage by empty. Tenderizer is 44.76% better at DPS, but 14.84% worse at damage by empty. Full chart below, probably will get garbled by youtube, rip. 🤓
After 1 second of firing (DPS)
Distance (m) StA Tenderizer Liberator Carbine Penetrator Concus. Adjudicator
0 922 1346 747 1074 640 347 825
1 922 1346 747 1073 640 347 825
10 919 1341 744 1070 638 346 822
15 914 1334 741 1065 636 344 818
20 908 1324 736 1058 632 341 812
25 901 1312 730 1049 627 338 804
50 886 1288 718 1031 618 332 790
75 864 1253 700 1006 604 323 768
100 836 1208 677 973 586 311 741
150 795 1144 644 926 560 294 701
200 744 1063 603 866 528 273 652
250 684 970 554 797 490 248 595
300 619 869 502 721 448 222 533
350 551 765 446 642 403 195 469
400 482 661 391 562 357 168 405
500 408 550 331 475 308 139 338
Shots Fired: 13 14 11 15 11 5 9
Median: 850 1230 689 990 595 317 755
Difference (%): - 45 -19 16 -30 -63 -11
Time 'til Reload (s): 4.25 2.5 4.25 3 4.25 11.25 3.25
Difference (%): - -41 0 -29 0 165 -24
Damage by Empty: 3613 3076 2926 2969 2529 3566 2452
Difference (%): - -15 -19 -18 -30 -1 -32
they should have made a unique killzone warbond, charging so much for individual items feels scummy even knowing that they have to charge more for the license
Sony charging Sony for a Sony owned IP? 😂
Yea a killzone war bond would have been awesome. Seems strange to release it in the sc store like that
@@Mr.Haveaword not surprising at all
they called me crazy when i said the shock baton was a bad sign of premium content...
I can sum up your 9+ min video:
1) if you’ve ever used fire resistant armor, just imagine it being less effective.
2) imagine being killed in 2 shots from an arc weapon instead 1… vs just being immune to it with arc resistant armor
3) who is honestly standing in their own gas cloud for more than 1 second anyway?
4) another AP2 AR? Pass. Light AP weapons are all trash and have no place beyond difficulty 4.
5) $20??? Are you kidding me???
Literally. Truth enforcers smg is best primary rifle..
@ yeah if you’re going to use something like an AR it really has to be either Reprimand or Adjudicator. Rep will do better up close. Adjudicator will feel better out to med range.
1) imagine how much less you would die from having monkey brained pyromaniac teammates if you had a couple extra seconds to go prone and save yourself. it's not meant for prolonged burning. You just don't get how fire works in terms of the player's interactions with it.
2) Pretty much the only time I ever die these days is because of one shots. A 50% increase to how long you can stay alive is legitimately insane.
3) Have you ever heard of gas mines my good sir?
4) If you still think light ap weapons are trash arrowhead literally wasted the buffdvers updates on people like you. I'm a daily super helldive player and the tenderizer is the only primary I would ever consider running for the terminids, its absolutely s tier. Go use a light ap weapon before telling me it's ass because clearly you haven't and are just some "find the meta" shmuck.
5) 20$ dollars?????? Try 0$ and just play the fucking game. Stop acting like they're not just literally sitting there in points of interest. I've never bought super credits and have all the war bonds except 1 and have never felt like I couldn't pick up a new helmet or armor from the super store if I wanted to. Yeah the super store is bigger now and costs more to get everything, but if you care about that, just get the stuff that affects gameplay, and all the sudden it costs half the super credits.
@pawelk411 Tenderizer, Jar 5, Sickle...
@@TheWhelmster
1) avoiding fire is the best defense against it. If your idiot team mates insist on brining it then stay away from them.
2) that’s a silly counter argument. There’s no comparison between taking half dmg and being practically immune
3) yes and you just… go around them…
4) yeah I would still say the tenderizer is crap compared to things like the Purifier, explosive crossbow, Blitzer, and Scorcher. You can clear trash mobs with AP2 weapons just fine but you’re incapable of quickly and easily dealing with anything with medium armor. Adjudicator is an objectively better weapon.
5) the only reason to buy this crap is if you were a diehard Killzone fan.
I was so excited only to see the price. So much for being a Hell-ghast.
Other than the price I really like this wave of items. I would like it to be down to like 1500 instead of 1975
That's still a 3x price increase from a normal warbond WITH FOMO on top because remember, this isn't all the content.
2 warbond in a row YES, but THAT, HELL NO ! I really hope with this drama it will become a regular Warbond at 1000 as every other. If not, Sony and ArrowHead GFY !
Light armor pen.
May as well be junk
it being on the superstore AND only available there is a big red flag for me. i dunno if arrowhead learned the greedy part of the big companies or if sony stepped in. this is not good.
sure, we can talk about how you can grind out SCs, but you cant take away the big bullshit that is FOMO. people will buy SC for real money because they dont know when the armor will be back on the shop. is it just one rotation? will it be random when it's next on the rotation? waiting for a random day to have it on the shop again sucks either way. they know how to trigger FOMO and this is a big one and absolutely unhealthy. i'm no doomsayer, but when i see signs, i point em out. that's your 2,50$ skyrim shop mount-armor right there
I totally agree. I just don't understand how the community is split on this. We should all be throwing our hands up in the air and saying wtf.
I’m still gonna buy the armor regardless. It already cosmetically look better than the dreadnought armor that makes me look like a puffy boi. If I could change the color of my armor then yea I would run the dreadnought more but it sucks that the first flame armor in the war bond looks a lot cooler but the armor rating is really small
Honestly, I would just wait till the next superstore rotation, the Armor set just looks better, and I’m sure the weapon would be way more worth it; plus with the feedback of fellow helldivers, I’m sure the price would drop next rotation 😅
Just played 5 games and got into 2 bunkers with another.. didnt get a single super credit...
They just gave the 2 other weapons and other armor set for free + added 8 days to farm sc for the weapon in shop. you guys can stop complaining yay !
Is that armor the only one that has acid resist? If so I'd say it's worth it for that alone
Yo go buy it sheep quick before it disapear !
Weapons in a warbond is a slippery slope, but I didn't think it'd get to this so soon. Exclusive primary and passive limited until the next rotation? I don't care what the price is, that is fucking ridiculous.
do ppl not realize how easy it is to farm super credits on trivial difficulty? Spend like an hour doing it and you can buy whatever you want.
My ass, you can barely buy the cheapest thing in the store
It’s not that easy tho is it and you don’t always find them
Level 56 and i havent found more than 200 in total
It does possess one distinct drawback compared to the liberator- it does not have a scope or a laser sight, which means using the weapon at further ranges both in ADS and third person is significantly more difficult. One big plus of the liberator IS that you can use it as a sort of mini-marksman rifle if you really need to
Changed my review from positive to negative after seeing this
Devs gotta eat too yknow
With the amount of L’s Sony’s been taking recently, is anyone actually surprised? I mean concord alone was 200million black hole.
Should’ve been a part of the urban legends warbond
1000 SC for a bundle of armor is an absurd price, seeing as you can buy 100x worth the value of items from a warbond
Yeah these aren’t worth it in terms of price to what we get. Should be a $10 deal at most like warbonds, given the amount of content in them in comparison.
They have to make some $$$ guys!
The game made over 5x it's budget in the first 12 weeks after launch just based off sales alone plus super credit purchase's on top of that. Arrowhead is doing just fine
They weren't already? They had one of the highest player count since launch (210,000 players approximately), remember that each has paid 40USD to play which means 2 days ago 8.4million USD worth of gamers was present and if just 10% bought the warbond that's an additional 840,000 USD. They made their money, now it's just objective greed because all of the previously mentioned is far more than enough to continue operations for a long time and develop future content. No, they just seen they could make money being good people then found out they can make far more being horrible. 20 to 40 USD assuming the next rotation in the store is similarly priced for the content of what normally is in a warbond is a 4x price increase AND they're using "FOMO" (Fear of missing out) because who knows when the hell the stuff is reappearing in the store.
i can play only 2 times a week. there is no way im unlocking any of those. I have like 4 not fully completed warbonds, man. and 200 sc. That sucks(
The WASP is definitely an anti medium oriented weapon but it can deal with the harvesters in a pinch. Spam it with the swarm mode instead of using the artillery mode than it should go down with 2 canisters assuming you get the shields down first. Artillery mode is for grouped up enemis, so ATM primarily an Overseer in the middle of a bunch of Voteless.
I’m cool with it being in the superstore. The more unique items are in rotation the more incentive you have to keep playing the game and paying attention to super credits found in-mission.
The ONLY complaint I have is the SC costs are stupid. It almost costs as much as 2 warbonds to get everything.
The armor passive is good, the rifle is meh, and it's not worth 2000 super credits all told. DONT BUY IT!!!!
If I remember correctly, this armor is currently the only armor in the game that will protect you from the bug's acid attacks. The only ones we have so far do fire, gas or electric.
hitting the weak spots on hive guards is so easy that i don't even consider light pen an issue on bugs. I mostly just take the carbine so maybe i'll splurge for this or maybe i'll vote with my super creds n hold back
The rifle is better than people think. No other assault rifle hits hard like the liberator while having the mag size to clear an entire crowd of illuminate zombies. It's by far my favorite primary, but I did hate having to pay so much for it.
on the fence about coming back to HD2. This gave me my answer, thanks Sony.
We're going through too much in this galaxy to not have extended clips.
Reload speed or peak physique is far more impactful as long as the first continues to work for support weapons, and the latter apply to the "shooting" keybind. Imho.
The ar seems kinda meh, but the armor seems pretty top tier. At least that helps save some sc if Im only getting the armor
I hope the next Killzone Weapon Collab is the M224-A3, basically the MG-43 with an underslung EAT.
Part of me wonders if it'd be fair to consider this weapon and armor set sort of a.. "dad gamer" set.
As you point out the weapon itself falls inbetween existing assault rifles but with bigger clip size --> easier for people with worse accuracy and/or timing to reload between waves.
As for the armor set I currently feel like it's a "baby-diver" friendly armor. it's utility excels if you expect to be caught off guard by flamehulks, bile titans/spewers etc. However if you're already trained and excel to avoid getting hit you wont get as much value from the perk.
Edit: Thank you for the showcase btw @takibo ! Real informative as I have neither superstore items yet.
The price is ridiculous, but running around as a helghast...
holy shit why is EVERYONE crybabies here, lmao either get ur super credits by playing the game, don’t buy the damn set, or just delete the game if you don’t like pricey collab stuff, oh yeah ITS A F*CKING COLLAB, yall thinking like they’re gonna ramp the prices of normal stuff, literally for almost a year this has never happened, and the collab is the first ever in this game they’re for sure gonna take notes about how yall crybabies feel, and yes they have already said that in a post, literally if you don’t like the price or whatever, DONT BUY IT
Got all the items in the page,tested the gun and armor,it's a good purchase,at least for me
Hi Takibo,
is there a way I could know your game settings and your pcs hardware?
I am currently wondering why my game is so doo doo even tho i got some nice hardware, my brother who build the pc is also confused so I am wondering what your using for the game to look so cool while having amazing fps
what are your current specs?
imagine if they released a star wars crossover where you could get boba fett's armor and there was a wrist rocket secondary and an upgraded jetpack that could hover for a few seconds
for 5000 SC*
@D3LTA69 nah 2000 SC
It would be cool if the AR had an option to use that underbarrel grenadelauncher. Just like the shotgun where you can change from flechette to stun
Next we’re gunna get a little big planet warbond lol . Going to be interesting seeing where they go with this system.
I think they should change bile chargers so that instead of exploding with enough damage to one shot you when you kill them they leave a gas cloud with all the same code as a gas grenade
"I'm the type of guy that'll only spend in game currency to buy something if it impacts gameplay"
Immediately buys the title
I'm sorry, but... did I just hear Liberator Concussive slander?
I think a lot of people remember the old version that completely sucked, but it's an excellent horde clear weapon now. It has 20 damage less in total than the StA-52 in a mag, and is super controllable. I urge you and everyone to give it a try again. It was a pleasant surprise when I picked it up, and the small stun effect actually means a lot against Illuminate Overseers and the like.
I wanna helmet. I already have Pew-Pew Shoota to blast, so... only helmet. Thus glowing red eyes are awesome!
For online I can see why that armor is pretty good, but I skipped on it because I mostly rock Light Armor instead.
Ugh, can’t wait to pay for a Light Armor version eventually for the acid resistance alone.
I take it back, I got the new Light Armor for free so thanks Arrowhead, never change
That armor passive looks super good but I have a feeling it’s gonna be in a armor for a future warbond
I think Helldivers 2 has been declining ever since AH changed CEOs, a shift that it's been plaguing their game ever since. We've been getting free updates for a long time but the quality of warbonds and superstore cosmetics hasn't decreased until recently, and by recently I mean since The Viper Commandos update and onwards.
For example, The Illuminate, although already being such a fun faction to fight; lack units. The Harvester is more akin to a Hulk from the Automatons or a Charger from the Terminids, and we don't have an equivalent to the Tank or Bile Titan from the previously mentioned factions. Not only that but the last warbond is an insult to us, players and consumers. Only a single weapon and it's a spear. Sure, it's really nice seeing the addition of melee weapons into the game, but it's just ridiculous they could only think of adding THAT to the warbond in terms of weapons.
Worse still, they keep insisting on artificially filling the warbonds with junk like hellpod, pelican and mech skins and stratagems. Before we used to get stratagems free under new updates or after completing a directive from Super Earth, like it was in the case of the mech. Now they make us either pay or grind for warbonds that are shrinking in overall content and worse being filled with junk cosmetics to not appear as empty.
All of these updates work to make their efforts cheaper and give us a worse and, as a result, more expansive product that we have not pushed back against. We used to get between two or three guns per warbond, three full sets of armour per warbond too. Now it's not the same story. Helldivers 2 is changing, people. We can't let them make this game worse just for greed.
Idk if anyone’s actually caught on yet or not but for the illuminate guards and jet packers take out the leg armor and legs, wayyyy easier than the head and chest
Pretty sure part 1 and 2 combined are going to cost more than the game itself for less than we get in a standard warbond. As someone who played the heck out of the first game and knows arrowheads track record, you gotta be careful who you do business with. This is insane.
Whats up legend!
No cash grab Bs is all it is
I said F it and bought it - full set (armor, helmet and cape) look absolutely unreal when running through a snowstorm fighting the illuminate. Worth it to me but I def agree it should have been a free unlock.