Wouldn't recommend Club Champion for putter fitting. If you do go, beware. Read the fine print on their order sheet; all sales are final, no refunds. You do get a ninety day window for "loft and lie adjustments". Pay close attention to delivery dates, and expect them to extend beyond what they advertised, and refer to the "all sales are final" comment above. If you can find the same product faster (and cheaper) you are basically screwed. Real pros have very professional club fitters produce and adjust their clubs based upon their requirements. The average guy does not have a requirement to get "fitted" to the level and price Club Champion charges. You are essentially paying a lot for very little. Plus, they will try to get you to get every custom upcharge they offer, whether you need it or not. The average guy does not need or want what Club Champion is selling.
FIrst off, Its Okay to be wrong, I have literally fitted someone who couldnt even break 100, had a ugly swing, but 3 months after getting his clubs literally broke 90 with no lessons or anything, no swing changes.... Secondly, They charge what they charge because they are the best... GOLF DIGEST DID A 3rd party independent study and they showed on average you drop 6 strokes in handicap, gain 21 yards of distance and 10-15 yards of dispersion.... Putters are literally the same price as anywhere else... unless you get a stability putter shaft.... 3rd... I have been a master fitter at big box locations, you know what they do... and online video and test and send you out to the wolves... I literally paid 250 dollars for fitting lessons.. to learn how to fit correctly... CLUB CHAMPION flies every fitter out to there headquaters, they then go through a 2 months of training and have to be approved by the VP of the master fitting program to prove they can fit everyone from a Child to a PGA tour pro, and everything inbetween. 4th.. on average people drop 2-5 putts per round when getting fitted at club champion. 5th just for comparison... if you bought a full set of 14 clubs right now, current gen, brand new stock, you would pay between 3000-4500, with club champion it can be more, but that is because of the shaft they carry 370 iron shafts and over 250 driver shafts that all use a universal adapter so every shaft can go into every club head so they are not limited to the very limited fitting carts and shaft that big box retailers have.. On average a full set of 14 clubs driver to putter cost about 3500-5200. so all in all about the same... OH and here is the math... 600 for a new driver 2 fairway woods at 300 a piece a set of irons at 1250 3 wedges at 540 (180ish a wedge now) and a putter for 400.. that is 3400 and there are stock models of brand that all go higher... and some that go lower... but that is about the average. So in conclusion.. it is not worth it to you... but let me tell you this... this dude was almost in tears when he came to me so esctatic that he broke 90 for the first time, when previously he couldnt break 100... and that is why Master fitters do what they do.. to help people love the game more.. and prove you dont have to make a million changes to your swing..They fit the club to the swing.. so you dont have to fit the swing to the club. And anywhere you get custom clubs... all sales are final.. it isnt just club champion... there are other places i have bought custom clubs and they do not allow returns... They do allow a 90 day perfect fit guarentee.. where if it isnt working out, just come back in... and if the numbers show it.. they will change the shaft, or the head, adjust the length or lie angle for free, as long as the new product doesnt cost more then the current product... and the delivery window has been extended for everyone when there is manufacturing back order.. You know how many clubs I have special ordered at a big box retail store told them 2-4 weeks and because of back ordered components it ends up being 3-4 months. alot.. does it happen at club champion... I am sure it does.. but it also happens everywhere else.
@@golffreak68 I mean if FACTS MADE YOU LAUGH.... everyone one laughs cause they think they know everything.. but when you have someone in t he industry.. has fitted for multiple companies, has multiple certification, and rewards for Master fitting.... IDK I guess its hard to think someone who has trained and went to school for something knows more then someone who didnt go to school for it...
@@RydenEdenok sure samething as they say 2023 driver is 10 yds longer on average than 2022/21 etc. which we all know is bs. So just saying i know more than the average not like a fitter but i know enough and people In the industry as well. But if someone blows they only can get better so thats where alot of that comes into effect. If it tells thrm in their head thry better thsn good
@@bryanhylok9961 Bro the DRiver 10 ayrds better every year is bullshit... I can tell you that.. I can tell you my numbers arent.. I have fitting many people that shot in the high 90 and low 100s and had them breaking 90 just by getting fitted with clubs I have have fit someone who couldnt break 81, shot a 78 after getting his clubs fitted.. and NO it isnt the same thing as driver.. cause non of that is proven through a 3rd party external numbers... thos are all internal numbers which dont mean shit... besides drivers can only increase distance by 1.aerodynamics, 2. smaller head for better aerodynamics... thats it.. they can increase the average distance by making the club more forgiving and providing the same smash factor on the toe or heel that you get on the center.. BUT at the end of the day there are 100 different stiff flex irons... and because your a 100 gram stiff, you might really be a 120 gram regular or a 80 gram x flex.. every shaft has 3 flexes.. so you can a a but mid and tip flex of soft but still be stiff, or you can have a but mid and tip flex of extra firm but stil be a stiff flex.... all this is pivotal.. cause the right shaft will make 10 times more consistent then taking lessons to make very minor adjustments on your swing
Wouldn't recommend Club Champion for putter fitting. If you do go, beware. Read the fine print on their order sheet; all sales are final, no refunds. You do get a ninety day window for "loft and lie adjustments". Pay close attention to delivery dates, and expect them to extend beyond what they advertised, and refer to the "all sales are final" comment above. If you can find the same product faster (and cheaper) you are basically screwed. Real pros have very professional club fitters produce and adjust their clubs based upon their requirements. The average guy does not have a requirement to get "fitted" to the level and price Club Champion charges. You are essentially paying a lot for very little. Plus, they will try to get you to get every custom upcharge they offer, whether you need it or not.
The average guy does not need or want what Club Champion is selling.
FIrst off, Its Okay to be wrong, I have literally fitted someone who couldnt even break 100, had a ugly swing, but 3 months after getting his clubs literally broke 90 with no lessons or anything, no swing changes.... Secondly, They charge what they charge because they are the best... GOLF DIGEST DID A 3rd party independent study and they showed on average you drop 6 strokes in handicap, gain 21 yards of distance and 10-15 yards of dispersion.... Putters are literally the same price as anywhere else... unless you get a stability putter shaft....
3rd... I have been a master fitter at big box locations, you know what they do... and online video and test and send you out to the wolves... I literally paid 250 dollars for fitting lessons.. to learn how to fit correctly... CLUB CHAMPION flies every fitter out to there headquaters, they then go through a 2 months of training and have to be approved by the VP of the master fitting program to prove they can fit everyone from a Child to a PGA tour pro, and everything inbetween.
4th.. on average people drop 2-5 putts per round when getting fitted at club champion.
5th just for comparison... if you bought a full set of 14 clubs right now, current gen, brand new stock, you would pay between 3000-4500, with club champion it can be more, but that is because of the shaft they carry 370 iron shafts and over 250 driver shafts that all use a universal adapter so every shaft can go into every club head so they are not limited to the very limited fitting carts and shaft that big box retailers have..
On average a full set of 14 clubs driver to putter cost about 3500-5200. so all in all about the same...
OH and here is the math... 600 for a new driver 2 fairway woods at 300 a piece a set of irons at 1250 3 wedges at 540 (180ish a wedge now) and a putter for 400.. that is 3400 and there are stock models of brand that all go higher... and some that go lower... but that is about the average.
So in conclusion.. it is not worth it to you... but let me tell you this... this dude was almost in tears when he came to me so esctatic that he broke 90 for the first time, when previously he couldnt break 100... and that is why Master fitters do what they do.. to help people love the game more.. and prove you dont have to make a million changes to your swing..They fit the club to the swing.. so you dont have to fit the swing to the club.
And anywhere you get custom clubs... all sales are final.. it isnt just club champion... there are other places i have bought custom clubs and they do not allow returns... They do allow a 90 day perfect fit guarentee.. where if it isnt working out, just come back in... and if the numbers show it.. they will change the shaft, or the head, adjust the length or lie angle for free, as long as the new product doesnt cost more then the current product... and the delivery window has been extended for everyone when there is manufacturing back order.. You know how many clubs I have special ordered at a big box retail store told them 2-4 weeks and because of back ordered components it ends up being 3-4 months. alot.. does it happen at club champion... I am sure it does.. but it also happens everywhere else.
@@RydenEden lol that gave me a good laugh
@@golffreak68 I mean if FACTS MADE YOU LAUGH.... everyone one laughs cause they think they know everything.. but when you have someone in t he industry.. has fitted for multiple companies, has multiple certification, and rewards for Master fitting.... IDK I guess its hard to think someone who has trained and went to school for something knows more then someone who didnt go to school for it...
@@RydenEdenok sure samething as they say 2023 driver is 10 yds longer on average than 2022/21 etc. which we all know is bs. So just saying i know more than the average not like a fitter but i know enough and people In the industry as well. But if someone blows they only can get better so thats where alot of that comes into effect. If it tells thrm in their head thry better thsn good
@@bryanhylok9961 Bro the DRiver 10 ayrds better every year is bullshit... I can tell you that.. I can tell you my numbers arent.. I have fitting many people that shot in the high 90 and low 100s and had them breaking 90 just by getting fitted with clubs
I have have fit someone who couldnt break 81, shot a 78 after getting his clubs fitted..
and NO it isnt the same thing as driver.. cause non of that is proven through a 3rd party external numbers... thos are all internal numbers which dont mean shit...
besides drivers can only increase distance by 1.aerodynamics, 2. smaller head for better aerodynamics... thats it.. they can increase the average distance by making the club more forgiving and providing the same smash factor on the toe or heel that you get on the center..
BUT at the end of the day there are 100 different stiff flex irons... and because your a 100 gram stiff, you might really be a 120 gram regular or a 80 gram x flex.. every shaft has 3 flexes.. so you can a a but mid and tip flex of soft but still be stiff, or you can have a but mid and tip flex of extra firm but stil be a stiff flex....
all this is pivotal.. cause the right shaft will make 10 times more consistent then taking lessons to make very minor adjustments on your swing