Londoners claim toxic air from gasworks damaging their health ► www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/aug/27/londoners-claim-toxic-air-from-gasworks-damaging-their-health
Grenfell Tower had also 'met' all the safety requirements until the tragedy happened, when big money is involved people (e.g. inspectors) tend to bend (even) the safety rules, sad!
Keep fighting. Be proud that you've stood up for your community and everyone's hope to live a decent and healthy life. The country needs more people like you.
Absolutely we need the communities to act as municipal street level self-governing neighborhoods, local level volunteers, making local meetings with social distancing to deter the environmental crises, mental crises, homeless crises, financial crises and use communities to have planning projects and inviting all peoples of their neighborhood.
If people - in this case dozens of them - are saying their health has deterorated since work started on cleaning land of carcinogenic chemicals - why on Earth would the council not err on the side of caution and halt work to investigate? Why on Earth would Ealing Council decide that 'unlikely to cause a risk to health' is good enough? This council has been seriously negligent
It said at the end (14:17) that there has been no rise in asthma or cancer in the area. Frankly, if the council has done the environmental monitoring, and no data from monitoring or healthcare data suggests there's anything wrong, then what else is the council to do? If the council just acts on a whim with unsubstantiated reasons and shuts down the development, it will be sued.
@@leew1598 All councils have been hit severely by austerity. This may have been a factor. Racism against fellow bame people seems to be a bipartisan issue as well though tbh.
As a chemist, a chamber containing 100 % oxygen sounds extremely dangerous, as it would probably result in spontaneous human combustion as well as being rather toxic!
I thought the same. Maybe she means the maximum O² flow for the apparatus. I hope, for the child's sake, she's not being put into a hyperbaric chamber inflated with pure oxygen! I copied this from a diving site about oxygen toxicity when divers get too much oxygen.That chamber is obviously over atmospheric pressure so... "Oxygen toxicity is a catastrophic hazard in diving, because a seizure results in near certain death by drowning. The seizure may occur suddenly and with no warning symptoms. The effects are sudden convulsions and unconsciousness, during which victims can lose their regulator and drown."
Some of the communities in Britain worked as a municipal street level self-governing neighborhoods that are unionized and fundraiser and charity backed, local level volunteers and service , making local meetings with social distancing to deter the environmental crises, mental crises, homeless crises, financial crises & more and use communities to have planning projects and inviting all peoples of every background.
It is a disgrace that to date, so little has been done to address this issue. I do not live in Southall now but am there every week and the odours are regularly noticeable. However it is the presence of gases that one cannot smell which are more worrying. Good that this issue is now making national headlines.
Odour nuisance within residents' homes should be treated by Ealing Council as a statutory nuisance , in accordance with The Environmental Protection Act 1990.
The problem with this is that you have endless people saying they're unhappy and they're worried, but you included no experts. Something not smelling nice is not the same as a risk to health. People can ascribe their problems to all sorts of things, but hysteria is not evidence and you should not tout it as such.
I think I read somewhere that Alexander (Boris de Pfeffel) Johnson pushed the development through while mayor of London, against the local council's wishes.
Interesting video. A little one sided maybe but it captures well the strength of feeling these activists have. The difficulty is a lot of their evidence is just anecdotal. The woman who claimed her mother suddenly got lung cancer in her old age when cancer is something which is more likely to happen in your old age. Poor health and illness is often caused by a multitude of factors, not always but often. More generally we know air pollution isn't good for you but things are getting better, cars are cleaner now than the 70s and 80s, we don't burn coal to heat our homes generally and electric cars are on the way.
It isn't just the elderly who are suffering but also young children are experiencing asthma. Residents are inhaling toxic and carcinogenic chemicals, which are being disturbed by excavation and remediation of a former gasworks site. National Grid and Berkeley Group will be regenerating gasworks sites across the country, so odour nuisance, cancer and asthama, could be coming to a town near you soon.
@@cleanairforsouthallandhaye4650 I hope this doesn't end up like the Primodos scandal for you or something where even now decades on there still aren't really any answers. On the other hand though I remember back in the 1990s a lot of people believed that electricity pylons were causing cancer. We don't think that's the case now but a lot of people believed it at the time.
@@leew1598 Benzene is carcinogenic and naphthalene is possibly carcinogenic. Napthalene at one stage was 3 times above the WHO limit and Public Health England said that this needed to be reduced as a matter of urgency. A Google search will reveal plenty of studies demonstrating the impact of benzene and naphthalene on human health.
They built new houses about 200 metres up the road from me a few years ago, which had been on a site that had been on an old railway carriage makers and contaminated by blue asbestos, amongst other toxins. No one told the house buyers when they were signing £240,000 mortgages.
There’s a similar situation in Louisiana. Obviously this is a universal problem with no solution. This is done intentionally within poverty communities
People cared (my mum is on the thumbnail) just they couldn't do much till CASH was put into place and they've been fighting for years. Its really pisstaking, she puts all her energy into it leaving less for us I want my mum back and they need to effin stop!
Just friggin move, thats insane to complain and stay, just get out. Dumb to stay. Even if it was my house I would leave and never pay that mortgage again and take the hit on my credit and start over.
Londoners claim toxic air from gasworks damaging their health ► www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/aug/27/londoners-claim-toxic-air-from-gasworks-damaging-their-health
Isn't Ealing Council Labour controlled though?
@leew1598 yes it is but they don't care
These are the stories I love to see, everyday people fighting for their community. I sincerely hope they will be successful with their campaign.
Of course they won t. Big corporations Control politicians.
Grenfell Tower had also 'met' all the safety requirements until the tragedy happened, when big money is involved people (e.g. inspectors) tend to bend (even) the safety rules, sad!
Shocking. I'm so sorry for the local residents and hope they get justice and clean air ASAP
Keep fighting. Be proud that you've stood up for your community and everyone's hope to live a decent and healthy life. The country needs more people like you.
Absolutely we need the communities to act as municipal street level self-governing neighborhoods, local level volunteers, making local meetings with social distancing to deter the environmental crises, mental crises, homeless crises, financial crises and use communities to have planning projects and inviting all peoples of their neighborhood.
if you have to ask the question, the answer is almost certainly yes
If people - in this case dozens of them - are saying their health has deterorated since work started on cleaning land of carcinogenic chemicals - why on Earth would the council not err on the side of caution and halt work to investigate? Why on Earth would Ealing Council decide that 'unlikely to cause a risk to health' is good enough? This council has been seriously negligent
It said at the end (14:17) that there has been no rise in asthma or cancer in the area.
Frankly, if the council has done the environmental monitoring, and no data from monitoring or healthcare data suggests there's anything wrong, then what else is the council to do?
If the council just acts on a whim with unsubstantiated reasons and shuts down the development, it will be sued.
Its pretty damning that stuff like this only seems to happen in high bame areas.
Isn't Ealing Council Labour controlled though?
@@leew1598 All councils have been hit severely by austerity. This may have been a factor. Racism against fellow bame people seems to be a bipartisan issue as well though tbh.
As a chemist, a chamber containing 100 % oxygen sounds extremely dangerous, as it would probably result in spontaneous human combustion as well as being rather toxic!
I thought the same. Maybe she means the maximum O² flow for the apparatus.
I hope, for the child's sake, she's not being put into a hyperbaric chamber inflated with pure oxygen!
I copied this from a diving site about oxygen toxicity when divers get too much oxygen.That chamber is obviously over atmospheric pressure so...
"Oxygen toxicity is a catastrophic hazard in diving, because a seizure results in near certain death by drowning. The seizure may occur suddenly and with no warning symptoms. The effects are sudden convulsions and unconsciousness, during which victims can lose their regulator and drown."
'as a chemist' have you never heard of hyperbaric oxygen therapy?
Thank you for this informative mini-doc, Guardian.
Some of the communities in Britain worked as a municipal street level self-governing neighborhoods that are unionized and fundraiser and charity backed, local level volunteers and service , making local meetings with social distancing to deter the environmental crises, mental crises, homeless crises, financial crises & more and use communities to have planning projects and inviting all peoples of every background.
It is a disgrace that to date, so little has been done to address this issue. I do not live in Southall now but am there every week and the odours are regularly noticeable. However it is the presence of gases that one cannot smell which are more worrying. Good that this issue is now making national headlines.
very proud of you folks who are fighting this battle for yourself and others. never give up~!!!
Great (though upsetting) stuff, well done Guardian (as usual) 👏 Great community, hope the residents stay healthy, God bless🤞🏻
If Berkeley Group isn't breaking any rules or laws though I don't see what the council are excepted to do.
Odour nuisance within residents' homes should be treated by Ealing Council as a statutory nuisance , in accordance with The Environmental Protection Act 1990.
Act in the interest of their citizens not profit perhaps?
Getting Erin Brockovich vibes. The community effort is inspiring to see.
When your council goes straight from gentrification to ethnic cleansing...
Gottq love liebor
Where's Erin Brockovich when you need her
If this is true it's absolutely disgusting. I am so so so sorry this is happening to you
Thank you for your kindness (daughter of the women in the thumbnail)
The problem with this is that you have endless people saying they're unhappy and they're worried, but you included no experts. Something not smelling nice is not the same as a risk to health. People can ascribe their problems to all sorts of things, but hysteria is not evidence and you should not tout it as such.
Its been proved
I think I read somewhere that Alexander (Boris de Pfeffel) Johnson pushed the development through while mayor of London, against the local council's wishes.
It's shamefull.... For Queen!
It's her people.. How can she allowed this?
Interesting video. A little one sided maybe but it captures well the strength of feeling these activists have. The difficulty is a lot of their evidence is just anecdotal. The woman who claimed her mother suddenly got lung cancer in her old age when cancer is something which is more likely to happen in your old age. Poor health and illness is often caused by a multitude of factors, not always but often. More generally we know air pollution isn't good for you but things are getting better, cars are cleaner now than the 70s and 80s, we don't burn coal to heat our homes generally and electric cars are on the way.
It isn't just the elderly who are suffering but also young children are experiencing asthma. Residents are inhaling toxic and carcinogenic chemicals, which are being disturbed by excavation and remediation of a former gasworks site. National Grid and Berkeley Group will be regenerating gasworks sites across the country, so odour nuisance, cancer and asthama, could be coming to a town near you soon.
@@cleanairforsouthallandhaye4650 I hope this doesn't end up like the Primodos scandal for you or something where even now decades on there still aren't really any answers. On the other hand though I remember back in the 1990s a lot of people believed that electricity pylons were causing cancer. We don't think that's the case now but a lot of people believed it at the time.
@@leew1598 Benzene is carcinogenic and naphthalene is possibly carcinogenic. Napthalene at one stage was 3 times above the WHO limit and Public Health England said that this needed to be reduced as a matter of urgency. A Google search will reveal plenty of studies demonstrating the impact of benzene and naphthalene on human health.
This isn't about cars its about Barkley group or whoever tf they are
They built new houses about 200 metres up the road from me a few years ago, which had been on a site that had been on an old railway carriage makers and contaminated by blue asbestos, amongst other toxins.
No one told the house buyers when they were signing £240,000 mortgages.
There’s a similar situation in Louisiana. Obviously this is a universal problem with no solution. This is done intentionally within poverty communities
* A smell doesn't have to be 'toxic' for it to trigger ill and sickness responses. Remember stopping at petrol stations when you were a kid 🤢
Hello,
What about some quantitative results??
A Draeger air quality tester starts at about 80€...
Just saying...
I provided the Council with results from my own air quality testing using a similar device. They said it was 'unscientific'...
It hasn't solved yet!
Description says “Since 2016”
So no one cared before then?
Hi 8
People cared (my mum is on the thumbnail) just they couldn't do much till CASH was put into place and they've been fighting for years. Its really pisstaking, she puts all her energy into it leaving less for us I want my mum back and they need to effin stop!
Just friggin move, thats insane to complain and stay, just get out.
Dumb to stay. Even if it was my house I would leave and never pay that mortgage again and take the hit on my credit and start over.
We used to live in southall 57 years ago lady we were pushed out ummmm
You can move to Leicester it's a lot cheaper than london
Outrageous
Get used to this people. This is government protecting the private sector and their pockets.
Pas de sous-titre :(
Omgggggg is that what we breathing in I just live near omg is 2020 gonna get any better 🤦🏽♀️
Air pollution actually fell during the lockdown so that's something at least.
Work at the site didn't stop during lockdown, so if you live close by it is possible that you are inhaling VOCs and particulate matter.
Go and ask Boris and his government I'm sure they etching to help you.
Mayweather vs tyson fight
I want to sleep in a oxygen tent. I bet that sleep is amazing.
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0:33 she's hot
1:45 NICE TO SEE DIANE ABBOTT HAS A NEW JOB!
Nice to see that you are illiterate.
Clean Air for Southall and Hayes Have you got your air sorted now mate??? or are you still in a bad mood because of all that gas you’re breathing?