@ganiniii Idk if he can be called a forgotten champion. Bro was on the video game “NBA JAM” lol was apart of the first bulls dynasty. John Paxton and bj Armstrong aren’t forgotten either. Jus because time passed and they’re not hall of famers doesn’t mean they’re forgotten
People forget that Horace Grant was a critical reason the Bulls won over 50 games in 93-94 after MJs first retirement. As a Cavs fan I saw Horace Grant make a lot of crucial plays in playoff games.
MJ had retired and Scottie and Horace were the two main stars of the Bulls with Horace being the second leading scorer on the team and getting his first and only All Star selection. Sooo I would say you’re being waaaay too overly dramatic there buddy saying “people forget” how vital he was for the Bulls that season 🙄
@@GQguy24 there’s one single person on this thread being ‘waaaay too overly dramatic’; even a 3rd reserve GQ copy-editor wouldn’t allow your laughably hyperbolic choice of phrasing through a first sift. ‘Physician, heal thyself’?!
Horace Grant and BJ Armstrong never got enough credit for the early 90s Bulls championships like Dennis Rodman and Ron Harper did for the late 90s this was real good as always do BJ Armstrong next
Ummmm I grew up in Chicago during that time and trust me they actually really did get their recognition. But if you were expecting them to get the SAME accolades and recognition as MJ…..there was of course ZERO CHANCE of that happening and rightly so. Because NONE of those championships would have even been remotely possible without MJ obviously.
They could've added dudes like Robert Horry, Otis Thorpe, Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Derrick Coleman etc instead of Rodman and they still would've won (none of them are hof level player🤷. The Bulls just needed a legit starting power forward (which they didn't have in 94-95). That said Rodman was a very very good fit, just don't pretend Horace was any where close to HOF level or that he left a hole they had to a hall of famer to equal his out out..
@Runforestrun lmao gtfo with that crap. All the bulls needed was a starting caliber power forward in 95-96.🙄🙄🙄. Quit trying to push Horace as a great player because of who he was replaced by. Using that type of logic u must believe that Will Perdue was good as Dennis Rodman too, cuz ya kno they got traded for one another.🙄😒🙄
@atm1919 Grant wasn't a superstar, was never implying this. But he was the backbone to the defense. A steady player that would get 13 and 10 basically every night while playing great defense. Losing him absolutely crippled the Bulls inside in 95. You would have to be blind to have not noticed. Kukoc couldn't replace him on defense or on the glass. Larry Krystkowiak (who started most of the season at PF) sure as fuck couldn't replace Grant.
Horace Grant leaving after the 93/94 season is alot of the reason the bulls were only 34 and 31 during the first 65 games Jordan during the 94/95 season was still retired plus they lost Scott Williams also
As a lifelong born and raised Chicago Bulls fan I loved Horace in the early 90s. But when he went to the Magic I don’t think there was a player I despised more lol. I remember whenever the Magic played in Chicago the crowd would chant “HORRRASSSSS” 😂
I miss the Old School Power Forwards in the 90s guys like Horace Grant, Charles Oakley, Otis Thorpe, AC Green and Dale Davis guys who didn't get their props but bought their hard hats EVERY NIGHT, I'll take 12-14 pts and 10 to 12 Rebounds from my Power Forward! 💯
@@AMart870 Josh Hart ( I love him because he's old school tough) Is a 6 foot 5 shooting guard playing PF because he's better at rebounding than power forwards. That's how bad it has gotten.
Horace Grant was very underrated. He was part of the 3-peat Chicago Bulls from 91’-93’ season. However, after the Bulls' successful run, Grant became frustrated with his role and the team's direction. He felt underappreciated and wanted to be a more significant part of the offense. I know his nephew, Jerami Grant, plays in the NBA and he is a defensive player like his uncle.
I will always have love for Horace Grant. I grew up in Orlando and he was the first major free agent the Magic acquired. The guy was automatic from mid-range in 1995 and 1996 and was a perfect fit next to Shaq. Much better defender than many remember. He wasn’t as good as Bosh was, but the role that CB1 filled on the 2011-2014 Heat was basically the role that Horace had on the 1991-1994 Bulls. My dad used to shout “Hooooorrrr” at Magic games whenever he made a big play, which was always a little awkward. Lol.
Just added this to my watch later. I loved his game. He was great at nothing but really good at everything. Maybe the best fit as a third option for the Bulls and the Magic. Defense, stepping out to knock down the mid range, shot blocking, rebounding, post play. He was solid all the way around.
People also dont notice on why the MAGIC became the #1 seed in 94-95 season.. its HORACE GRANT'S IMPACT that made the MAGIC much more formidable. No disrespect to the young and prime SHAQ and PENNY. But GRANT'S IMPACT on that young magic team was so impactful. His leadership and his championship expetience was tge big factor.. Without HORACE i doubt the bulls wont win a three peat
Definitely versatile defender and rebounder that was critical for Chicago and Orlando He was critical for the first year of Jordan’s retirement where they still could compete with Pippen as the first scoring option
42:30 As a Seattle native, here's what I noticed back then: 2.5 Assists, 0.8 Turnovers per game. A 3.0+ Assist to turnover ratio for a power forward, is pretty darn impressive! He was always a good passer, smart player, and careful with the ball.
I was a BIG fan of Horace during the “Climb over the corpse of the Pistons” era and I think FANS of the team and the sport loved the guy. When he left I genuinely thought it was over and there was no chance for a future championship. Then the next year Michael came back and the year after that they got Rodman. A one-time demon to the Bulls. I think because of those events and Kukoc, it truly lessened the blow of losing him. I never forgot how he was the Bulls Rodman before Dennis, but he definitely got lost in the shuffle by Reinsdorf and Kraus. He’ll always be a favorite player of mine. I think it didn’t help the optics that when Chicago needed him most he left as well.
Growing up in Chicago. I watched every Bulla game. Grant was awesome. When you play w MJ and Scottie. It's hard to get noticed. ANYONE playing w MJ it's hard to notice...
54# Horace Grant is not a forgotten champion level player. He may not be known to younger fans of the sport but if you grew up with the 90's era you would for sure know Grant was! The fact that he was a big part of Bull's original three-peat (1991-1993) or his 1994 run with the Bulls where they won over 50 games AFTER Jordan's first retirement. Or afterwards his great run with the Magic where he was just as crucial to there sucsess as Shaq & Penny was. Oly reason he was not the best PF was simply because Karl Malone, Charles Barkley and Dennis Rodman owned the 90's.
True, the same reason the bulls lost to Orlando, it's not Jordan's "rust" the bulls relied on a great power forward, so when they got Dennis, the bulls got their groove back
@bubot17 it was Jordan rust. He was still in baseball shape and only played 17 R.S. games. The bulls lost a close 6 games series. No one wanted Rodman. Rodman was a last min pickup by the bulls
I saw Horace the other day in Grover Beach grabbing some yogurt with the fam. I said what's up, shook his hand and told him I met his son the other day. He was cool AF. Told me take it easy when I left like a homie would.
@@FreeFire88s There are alot of players in the HOF without rings. This man has 4 rings. Compare with the NBA of today and the their stats. Also, handful of stars today will be in the HOF with there padded stats. You think Amare Stoudamire should be in the HOF? He didn't win an MVP and had a mediocre career in NY.
@@mcg1111 No Amare should not get in, I agree with you there for sure. Highly padded offensive stats and not a long enough peak. But Horace Grant was only a 1x All Star and never even averaged 20 and 10 for one season. And while I agree that the Bulls would not have won those three titles without him, he also would not have been nearly as efficient without getting all those easy put backs and open mid range jumpers without MJ and Pippen
Will never forget the “It’s The Goggles!” mania in 1995. Vision Works had raffles for the official goggles and even the Disney-MGM Studios Earful Tower wore goggles.
It really hurts me, Horace , to this day never gets his just dew. Yeah, he made that ballsey mistake with the Magic, but it is what it is... Horace is a major reason for the Bulls dynasty!
This IS all relevant: I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American, male, and heterosexual. This all shows where, when, and how I grew up, and what prism I view life through. I haven't watched this yet, but I bet we see that painful (as a Blazers fan) dunk in Game 1 of the 1991-92 Finals, where he does the "Horace Grant fist pump." In 1995-96, I started shooting Horace Grant 17-Footers. After watching Game 1 of the 1992-93 Finals, I started doing Horace Grant post-up turnaround jumpers, like the one he hit over Charles Barkley. Passing: A. Defense: AAA. Intangibles: AAA. Overall: AA. I remember in 1993-94, Horace Grant said, "It would be fun to play between Shawn Kemp and Derrick Schrempf!" Being only 21 in 1994, I was SO excited to have Horace Grant in Seattle! Yes, we got him in 1999, at age 34, five years too late. He did an ok job for the Sonics, playing out of position at center all season long. When Nick Collison came to the Sonics in 2004-05, some compared him to Jack Sikma, Tom Gigliotti or Adam Kaefe. I compared Nick Collison to Horace Grant and Brian Grant. I wonder how Horace Grant would have been with Portland, in the 1990's, if they could have gotten him, somehow.
He was the first three peats Dennis Rodman great defender and rebounder and a sweet jumper too. Bulls don’t win any of those first three titles without him
17:30 I was born in 1973, and yes, growing up, if you had to wear glasses, "life was over." BUT, sometime in the generation below me, even kids with glasses seemed to have an "I can't see without my glasses, so I don't mind wearing them" attitude. In 2016, was it still considered a bad thing, for kids, to wear glasses? Note my birth year. Even at 25, I felt more confident around women, when I wore contacts, rather than glasses. Still do today, at 52 in 2025.
People shit on Scottie for the Bulls struggling a bit in the 94-95 season before Jordan came back,but they really don’t understand just how big of a loss it was for the Bulls to not have Horace. Even if Jordan started the season,the Bulls still wouldn’t have got to the Finals that season because they were soft in the middle without Horace,which is why they went out and got Rodman.
WTF Horace Grant has never been considered a forgotten champion. The longer you keep ignoring John Drew, the stupider you look, the man averaged 20pts, 7rb and 1.5 stls per game over his 11yr career and you continue to ignore him?
I am surprised you didn't put the Foot Locker commercial that Horace did with Draymond Green in which the latter didn't recognize Horace until he put on his trademark goggles 🥽. 😅😅😅😂😂😂😂
no exaggeration, I think if you paired Grant with Stockton he could've been putting up Malone numbers. He was a very efficient scorer for how low his usage rate was.
Ridiculous. Malone was a freak of nature. Grant maximized his potential as a third wheel on a championship team. That was his potential ... not becoming the next Karl Malone.
Even though Horace Grant didn't get too much credit, I still believe he was the backbone of those Chicago bulls championship teams at the power forward position from 1991-93 alongside MJ and Pippen and adding his veteran experience to the Lakers championship in 2001....A solid role player who had the luxury to play on some pretty solid playoff teams with some of the iconic superstars like Jordan, Shaq and Kobe...He should be recognized for his hard work, toughness and persistence while making his contributions to the iconic NBA franchises Chicago, Orlando (Even though he didn't win a championship there, fun team to watch in the 90s if you were an NBA fan at that time) and the Lakers...Also, the goggles 🥽 he wore on court were pretty cool
Horace Grant isn’t forgotten. He may not be known by younger fans but if you grew up in the 90s you for sure know who he is
That's why he's the forgotten champion and not the forgotten player. At least that's what I thought when I saw the title.
No Bulls fan will forget Grant. even if you're younger you will have seen the last dance.
@ganiniii Idk if he can be called a forgotten champion. Bro was on the video game “NBA JAM” lol was apart of the first bulls dynasty. John Paxton and bj Armstrong aren’t forgotten either. Jus because time passed and they’re not hall of famers doesn’t mean they’re forgotten
And that's a fact!
People forget that Horace Grant was a critical reason the Bulls won over 50 games in 93-94 after MJs first retirement. As a Cavs fan I saw Horace Grant make a lot of crucial plays in playoff games.
MJ had retired and Scottie and Horace were the two main stars of the Bulls with Horace being the second leading scorer on the team and getting his first and only All Star selection. Sooo I would say you’re being waaaay too overly dramatic there buddy saying “people forget” how vital he was for the Bulls that season 🙄
@@GQguy24 there’s one single person on this thread being ‘waaaay too overly dramatic’; even a 3rd reserve GQ copy-editor wouldn’t allow your laughably hyperbolic choice of phrasing through a first sift. ‘Physician, heal thyself’?!
@@deepaknambisan3251 you’re right there is. It’s the guy whose comment I was replying to. Glad we agree on that and thanks for chiming in 😊
@@GQguy241/10 reply. Really not worth your valuable time.
@@deepaknambisan3251 apparently it is
Horace Grant and BJ Armstrong never got enough credit for the early 90s Bulls championships like Dennis Rodman and Ron Harper did for the late 90s this was real good as always do BJ Armstrong next
John Paxton as well
I'll try to get BJ soon!
Ummmm I grew up in Chicago during that time and trust me they actually really did get their recognition. But if you were expecting them to get the SAME accolades and recognition as MJ…..there was of course ZERO CHANCE of that happening and rightly so. Because NONE of those championships would have even been remotely possible without MJ obviously.
@@enhancedutility266 facts
Both of those dudes made all star games after they left Chicago. They were legit.
I just know this is going to be great, Horace is my all time favourite player
He was great!
Why was he your favorite?
@@matthewschelle1829 I can't even remember how he became it 😅
He was my favorite at that time then rodman
Grant was defender block shots off and dev rebounder can hit the 18 footer all day
Man....thanks for making this video!! Much needed.... Grant was a beast!! Very underrated
Everybody says how Rodman was great for the 2nd three peat for the Bulls but Grant would have been better cause Grant played defense and Offence
Just remember: They needed a hall of Fame Rebounder to fill his shoes. That's how important he was.
Nah, they just needed Jordan to shake off the rust. Rodman just made them OP.
They could've added dudes like Robert Horry, Otis Thorpe, Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Derrick Coleman etc instead of Rodman and they still would've won (none of them are hof level player🤷. The Bulls just needed a legit starting power forward (which they didn't have in 94-95). That said Rodman was a very very good fit, just don't pretend Horace was any where close to HOF level or that he left a hole they had to a hall of famer to equal his out out..
They needed Kukoc and Rodman to replace Grant.
He scored what Toni did while defended like Rodman.
Bulls really missed him in 95.
@Runforestrun lmao gtfo with that crap. All the bulls needed was a starting caliber power forward in 95-96.🙄🙄🙄. Quit trying to push Horace as a great player because of who he was replaced by. Using that type of logic u must believe that Will Perdue was good as Dennis Rodman too, cuz ya kno they got traded for one another.🙄😒🙄
@atm1919
Grant wasn't a superstar, was never implying this.
But he was the backbone to the defense.
A steady player that would get 13 and 10 basically every night while playing great defense.
Losing him absolutely crippled the Bulls inside in 95. You would have to be blind to have not noticed.
Kukoc couldn't replace him on defense or on the glass. Larry Krystkowiak (who started most of the season at PF) sure as fuck couldn't replace Grant.
Horace Grant leaving after the 93/94 season is alot of the reason the bulls were only 34 and 31 during the first 65 games Jordan during the 94/95 season was still retired plus they lost Scott Williams also
Getting Pippen and Grant in the same draft is just ridiculous
Lol, for real
As a lifelong born and raised Chicago Bulls fan I loved Horace in the early 90s. But when he went to the Magic I don’t think there was a player I despised more lol. I remember whenever the Magic played in Chicago the crowd would chant “HORRRASSSSS” 😂
I miss the Old School Power Forwards in the 90s guys like Horace Grant, Charles Oakley, Otis Thorpe, AC Green and Dale Davis guys who didn't get their props but bought their hard hats EVERY NIGHT, I'll take 12-14 pts and 10 to 12 Rebounds from my Power Forward! 💯
Remember how deep the power forwards were in the 90's? You could name 20 guys who are better than 90 percent of the PF's today. It's a dying position.
@@Davivd2yeah nowadays a 6'8 or 6'9 Small Forward is your Power Forward, it's truly a dying position!
Need bring them back get LeBron hell out
@@AMart870 Josh Hart ( I love him because he's old school tough) Is a 6 foot 5 shooting guard playing PF because he's better at rebounding than power forwards. That's how bad it has gotten.
Horace was nice. He was a super athletic forward, especially in his 20s.
Horace Grant was very underrated. He was part of the 3-peat Chicago Bulls from 91’-93’ season. However, after the Bulls' successful run, Grant became frustrated with his role and the team's direction. He felt underappreciated and wanted to be a more significant part of the offense. I know his nephew, Jerami Grant, plays in the NBA and he is a defensive player like his uncle.
So he went to Orlando and lost... Just like pippen😂😂😂
@@jamesjones-g3dhe beat the bulls when Jordan came back 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What happen the following year?? The Bulls swept them!!@@b9479
I will always have love for Horace Grant. I grew up in Orlando and he was the first major free agent the Magic acquired. The guy was automatic from mid-range in 1995 and 1996 and was a perfect fit next to Shaq. Much better defender than many remember. He wasn’t as good as Bosh was, but the role that CB1 filled on the 2011-2014 Heat was basically the role that Horace had on the 1991-1994 Bulls. My dad used to shout “Hooooorrrr” at Magic games whenever he made a big play, which was always a little awkward. Lol.
Loved Horace! He’s not forgotten in Orlando
Just added this to my watch later. I loved his game. He was great at nothing but really good at everything. Maybe the best fit as a third option for the Bulls and the Magic. Defense, stepping out to knock down the mid range, shot blocking, rebounding, post play. He was solid all the way around.
Basically a taller Robert Horry with a better post game and worse outside shot.
It was great to learn more about Horace. I will always fondly remember him in Black n Red.
Been waiting for that video.
There are some people who thinks Rodman was with the Bulls for all 6 titles...
Yeah he was long overdue for a video
Thank you so much for this video !
Otis Thorpe a another forgotten power. Forward and a major piece of the rockets 94 championship
We really felt his absence when he was traded in 1995
@@jasonelliott7977 true but still won with drexler but Hakeem had to carry that team big time in 95
Thank you for all these videos on these forgotten players. I appreciate you and your hard work 😊
No problem, thanks for the support!
People also dont notice on why the MAGIC became the #1 seed in 94-95 season.. its HORACE GRANT'S IMPACT that made the MAGIC much more formidable. No disrespect to the young and prime SHAQ and PENNY. But GRANT'S IMPACT on that young magic team was so impactful. His leadership and his championship expetience was tge big factor..
Without HORACE i doubt the bulls wont win a three peat
sweeping the pistons was my favorite series victories, and there were a hell of a lot in the 90s
Great video coverage🏀💯 it would not been the first three peat in Chicago if it wasn't for Horace Grant
Thanks Horace great memorys and for the 3 Championships with the Bulls.
ANOTHER AMAZING VID LOVE TO SEE SHAWN MARION, JEFF HORNECEK, OR MANU GINOBILI
Better than draymond
Agreed
Not even a question..
No shit
Definitely versatile defender and rebounder that was critical for Chicago and Orlando
He was critical for the first year of Jordan’s retirement where they still could compete with Pippen as the first scoring option
I was lowkey gonna ask for him. Thank you for this bro 💪🏻
The worm could get you atleast 10 and 20 probably anytime he wanted,my favorite bull teams were with grant at pf.
42:30 As a Seattle native, here's what I noticed back then: 2.5 Assists, 0.8 Turnovers per game. A 3.0+ Assist to turnover ratio for a power forward, is pretty darn impressive! He was always a good passer, smart player, and careful with the ball.
Bring back the spooky music
I was a BIG fan of Horace during the “Climb over the corpse of the Pistons” era and I think FANS of the team and the sport loved the guy. When he left I genuinely thought it was over and there was no chance for a future championship. Then the next year Michael came back and the year after that they got Rodman. A one-time demon to the Bulls. I think because of those events and Kukoc, it truly lessened the blow of losing him. I never forgot how he was the Bulls Rodman before Dennis, but he definitely got lost in the shuffle by Reinsdorf and Kraus. He’ll always be a favorite player of mine.
I think it didn’t help the optics that when Chicago needed him most he left as well.
Thank you 😊
Keep up the good work!!!
Growing up in Chicago. I watched every Bulla game. Grant was awesome. When you play w MJ and Scottie. It's hard to get noticed. ANYONE playing w MJ it's hard to notice...
I watched all the games growing up in Alabama in the 90's. Thank God WGN was nation wide cable channel.
good video as always man. has anyone inquired about Jerome "Junk yard dog" Williams?
A couple people. JYD will get a vid at some point for sure
Oh I liked the old background music 😢
These beats have their charm too though
Used to have to wear the rec specs as a kid playing basketball in the 90s, so Horace was a favorite
Hancock Central High School is in Sparta Ga!
54# Horace Grant is not a forgotten champion level player. He may not be known to younger fans of the sport but if you grew up with the 90's era you would for sure know Grant was!
The fact that he was a big part of Bull's original three-peat (1991-1993) or his 1994 run with the Bulls where they won over 50 games AFTER Jordan's first retirement.
Or afterwards his great run with the Magic where he was just as crucial to there sucsess as Shaq & Penny was.
Oly reason he was not the best PF was simply because Karl Malone, Charles Barkley and Dennis Rodman owned the 90's.
Without grant no champion rings back back to back
True, the same reason the bulls lost to Orlando, it's not Jordan's "rust" the bulls relied on a great power forward, so when they got Dennis, the bulls got their groove back
@bubot17 it was Jordan rust. He was still in baseball shape and only played 17 R.S. games. The bulls lost a close 6 games series. No one wanted Rodman. Rodman was a last min pickup by the bulls
😂😂Oakley, Thorpe, Kevin Willis, etc. Grant was a key piece to the 1st 3peat is all that needs to be said. He wasn't irreplaceable
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 rust is an excuse Jordan torched all the teams on the way to the ECF he became rusty vs Orlando? Oh please
Rumor is Horace still hasn't got his meal from the flight attendant to this day... grant was a beast.
Next we need BJ Armstrong please. I am not sure if you have Toni either. Great video and channel!!
Appreciate it! And yeah I'll get to both of those guys eventually!
Dude was on nba jam. The 13 yo me had lots of respect for that. 40 yo me still thinks that's pretty sick.
Him and Armstrong
One of the greatest players ever
We need one on Reggie Williams,
Ken Norman, and Rony Seikaly
As I like to say, "Rooooooony Seikaly!"
I saw Horace the other day in Grover Beach grabbing some yogurt with the fam.
I said what's up, shook his hand and told him I met his son the other day.
He was cool AF. Told me take it easy when I left like a homie would.
You should do one on Bill Cartwright
Yes that would be awesome
Gratitude
As a Laker fan, I was PUMPED when we got him
Bring back our Sonics! I forgot about that cup of coffee Horace had
I remember him clowning Ruben Patterson, saying he looks like a horse 😂
Horace Grant needs to be a HOFer
No, he just doesn't have the resume for that
@FreeFire88s Bulls don't win 3 chips with out Horace
@@mcg1111never said they wouldn't, that has nothing to do with being in the HOF
@@FreeFire88s There are alot of players in the HOF without rings. This man has 4 rings. Compare with the NBA of today and the their stats. Also, handful of stars today will be in the HOF with there padded stats. You think Amare Stoudamire should be in the HOF? He didn't win an MVP and had a mediocre career in NY.
@@mcg1111 No Amare should not get in, I agree with you there for sure. Highly padded offensive stats and not a long enough peak. But Horace Grant was only a 1x All Star and never even averaged 20 and 10 for one season. And while I agree that the Bulls would not have won those three titles without him, he also would not have been nearly as efficient without getting all those easy put backs and open mid range jumpers without MJ and Pippen
I’d always heard that about the goggles…I’m glad FFP confirmed it for me.
We haven’t forgot about Grant
He was a great a being a role-player. Simple as that. Not overrated, not underrated.
Will never forget the “It’s The Goggles!” mania in 1995. Vision Works had raffles for the official goggles and even the Disney-MGM Studios Earful Tower wore goggles.
I think one for Zydrunas Ilgauskas would be lit
“The Alaska Snowrays”😂😂🤣🤣🤣. Never heard that Jordan quote before!
it wasn't super necessary for the vid, but it was too good not to include 😂
@@ForgottenPlayerProfiles Still laughing about that two days later
It really hurts me, Horace , to this day never gets his just dew. Yeah, he made that ballsey mistake with the Magic, but it is what it is... Horace is a major reason for the Bulls dynasty!
I agree with everything thos video says, Horace Grant was great
OG PF, 1st Team All-Minions 💪🏾👊🏾👏🏾
Good, great player
Loved in Chicago forgotten after that.
This IS all relevant: I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American, male, and heterosexual. This all shows where, when, and how I grew up, and what prism I view life through. I haven't watched this yet, but I bet we see that painful (as a Blazers fan) dunk in Game 1 of the 1991-92 Finals, where he does the "Horace Grant fist pump." In 1995-96, I started shooting Horace Grant 17-Footers. After watching Game 1 of the 1992-93 Finals, I started doing Horace Grant post-up turnaround jumpers, like the one he hit over Charles Barkley. Passing: A. Defense: AAA. Intangibles: AAA. Overall: AA. I remember in 1993-94, Horace Grant said, "It would be fun to play between Shawn Kemp and Derrick Schrempf!" Being only 21 in 1994, I was SO excited to have Horace Grant in Seattle! Yes, we got him in 1999, at age 34, five years too late. He did an ok job for the Sonics, playing out of position at center all season long. When Nick Collison came to the Sonics in 2004-05, some compared him to Jack Sikma, Tom Gigliotti or Adam Kaefe. I compared Nick Collison to Horace Grant and Brian Grant. I wonder how Horace Grant would have been with Portland, in the 1990's, if they could have gotten him, somehow.
Long from forgotten if u was a bulls fan u prolly rememver the whole team and even remember grants brother
He was the first three peats Dennis Rodman great defender and rebounder and a sweet jumper too. Bulls don’t win any of those first three titles without him
An underrated player in Chicago Bulls history.
NBA history... 💯
Never lead the League in nothing!!!
@jamesjones-g3d he made it to the league and made MILLIONS......
John Starks and Derek Harper need to me in the queue.
He was Rodman on the Bulls before Rodman
Yeah. Their games were different but each was certainly effective.
Grant would have been a hall of famer if he had stayed in Chicago and won 6 titles.
It would have been close, he torched the bulls in the 95 playoffs that's for sure.
@@jojonodanceryes correct
But didnt win crown with Magic, lost to BULLS 0-4 the next year
The most memorable highlight when Horace Grant blocked Kevin Johnson shot as time expired in game 6 of the 1993 NBA finals.
Horace held his own against great PFs.
One of the first stretch 4s
17:30 I was born in 1973, and yes, growing up, if you had to wear glasses, "life was over." BUT, sometime in the generation below me, even kids with glasses seemed to have an "I can't see without my glasses, so I don't mind wearing them" attitude. In 2016, was it still considered a bad thing, for kids, to wear glasses? Note my birth year. Even at 25, I felt more confident around women, when I wore contacts, rather than glasses. Still do today, at 52 in 2025.
Mario Elie is worth an episode, too... chip in: he was champion in Portugal before NBA.
I was wondering when you was gonna cover him. As the years go by nobody talks much about Clyde drexler or Alonzo mourning. Rick fox first of course
People shit on Scottie for the Bulls struggling a bit in the 94-95 season before Jordan came back,but they really don’t understand just how big of a loss it was for the Bulls to not have Horace. Even if Jordan started the season,the Bulls still wouldn’t have got to the Finals that season because they were soft in the middle without Horace,which is why they went out and got Rodman.
Grant 1 of the greatest seasons of all time 😅😅😅😅😅 he was just ok man come on
Ben Wallace being in the HOf while Horace isn't is a travesty
WTF Horace Grant has never been considered a forgotten champion. The longer you keep ignoring John Drew, the stupider you look, the man averaged 20pts, 7rb and 1.5 stls per game over his 11yr career and you continue to ignore him?
"1996 seemed like Orlando's year"? Absolutely no one thought they were better than the bulls and rightfully so.
HORACE GRANT GOT DRAFT SAME YEAR AS SCOTTIE PIPPEN
Horace Grant was a great "role player" 👌🏾
the most underrated big forward in nba history
Definitely doesn't get talked about enough
Naw he gets talked about enough. Dude far from underrated
@@JBoss44agreed. Accurately rated
@ForgottenPlayerProfiles I'm an nba fan born in Chicago thank 4 the video
Forgotten Player Profiles why do so many quality players get forgotten? Do you think you will do one on Zion Williamson and Ben Simmons one day?
The best goggles ever in the nba
I am surprised you didn't put the Foot Locker commercial that Horace did with Draymond Green in which the latter didn't recognize Horace until he put on his trademark goggles 🥽. 😅😅😅😂😂😂😂
no exaggeration, I think if you paired Grant with Stockton he could've been putting up Malone numbers. He was a very efficient scorer for how low his usage rate was.
Ridiculous. Malone was a freak of nature. Grant maximized his potential as a third wheel on a championship team. That was his potential ... not becoming the next Karl Malone.
Horace #54 and Harvey #44
Charles Oakley please!!!!
First three peat was Horace. Second three peat was Rodman. Too bad things went sour.
I still think that ‘92 team was better than ‘96
45:33
58 games!? don’t you mean 56
Rodman did ok on bulls' run,but prefer if grant stayed coz of his overall value. Not dominating at any aspect,but does a lot of things well...
Awwwwww,😪😪
Even though Horace Grant didn't get too much credit, I still believe he was the backbone of those Chicago bulls championship teams at the power forward position from 1991-93 alongside MJ and Pippen and adding his veteran experience to the Lakers championship in 2001....A solid role player who had the luxury to play on some pretty solid playoff teams with some of the iconic superstars like Jordan, Shaq and Kobe...He should be recognized for his hard work, toughness and persistence while making his contributions to the iconic NBA franchises Chicago, Orlando (Even though he didn't win a championship there, fun team to watch in the 90s if you were an NBA fan at that time) and the Lakers...Also, the goggles 🥽 he wore on court were pretty cool
I swear to god this channel is one day gonna claim MJ as a forgotten champion just for the clicks.
I think the Bulls should retire his number one day, even though he won't be a hof
Another great player I have the rookie card of but it’s only worth five bucks ugh
damn i never knew he had a twin brother lol dats crazy 😆
@lemonwater8479 got a video coming on him too
They used to insult Horace by calling him Harvey (as Harvey was considered a marginal talent).
He Was So Good. Please.
What was good about his 1 Point in Game 5 and His 1 Point in Game 6 of the 1993 Finals.
Dennis Rodman Was Way Better