Ron Harper: He could have been MICHAEL JORDAN’S RIVAL… But instead became his Point Guard | FPP

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  • @MJ-xh4fl
    @MJ-xh4fl 10 месяцев назад +146

    I met Ron Harper when he was playing for the LA Clippers in the early 90s. It was in NYC at the hottest club in Manhattan at the time
    , and one of the greatest clubs in NYC history, a club called Nells. All the celebrities, athletes and professionals hung out there. If you weren't on the guest list or didn't know the doormen, or didn't look the part, you was not getting in. Period. We met at the pool table, and played a game or two. I remember he told me that he was waiting for his Clippers teammate and native New Yorker PG Mark Jackson, who never showed up. What was funny about that night was he had on a Pelle Pelle 8 ball jacket. The problem was it was about 4 years after they were popular in NYC. So he got teased about it (not by me though) in a good natured way. I had played basketball myself and had known and played against top NBA players before, so I knew who he was when I met him. Out of all the pros, Malik Sealy (RIP)(high school teammate), Chris Mullin and Ron Harper are the humblest and nicest NBA players I've known or met. Ron Harper had absolutely no ego, sense of entitlement, or aloofness. None whatsoever. He took the teasing about the jacket he was wearing gracefully. If you didn't know who he was, you would never imagine that he was actually a professional athlete or all-star caliber NBA basketball player. He was that down to earth and humble. He had a trusting, and transparent spirit. He seemed "country", by NYC standards. In a good way. I hung out with him the whole night. Usually when you went to Nells, you went there to meet high quality, beautiful women, but I remember just talking to him the entire night about basketball and life. I remember him buying people drinks that night. If I would have asked him that night for $100 out of need, I'm sure that he would have given it to me with no hesitation. He was that type of brother, a kind soul. I never ran into him again after that fun night at Nells. But, when I watched his future successes with the Bulls and Lakers, and the successes of his basketball playing sons (I believe, as we speak, one of his younger sons is the #1rated high school basketball point guard in the country). I'm not surprised and I'm happy for him, because as my wise mother (RIP) used to always tell me, "good things happen to good people! ".

    • @howardnash9272
      @howardnash9272 10 месяцев назад +9

      Beautifully written story. Asante-Thanks sana-very much.

    • @BadNewsfor154
      @BadNewsfor154 10 месяцев назад +4

      Was he stuttering worst than anyone you've ever seen? Or was that just an on camera thing?

    • @MJ-xh4fl
      @MJ-xh4fl 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@BadNewsfor154 I heard he had a stuttering problem before I met him. I don't recall him stuttering or stuttering a lot. What I do remember was that he talked with a slower pace than what would considered to be normal. Having had relatives who were from very country rural areas, he reminded me of a person who lived all his life in the country and was suddenly thrusted into a city- like environment. I've been around quite a few professional athletes from playing basketball and sports up until my late forties, and Ron Harper's humble almost gentle nature was different. If you met him you would know what I mean.

    • @MJ-xh4fl
      @MJ-xh4fl 10 месяцев назад +6

      To "Forgotten Player Profiles", great work! I believe it was you who did a profile on Rod Strickland, and I gave a lengthy comment on Rod from my experience competing against him in Highschool. That was another great work from you.

    • @MJ-xh4fl
      @MJ-xh4fl 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@howardnash9272 thank you much!

  • @pgfnj0279
    @pgfnj0279 10 месяцев назад +82

    The NBA needs more guys like Ron Harper today

  • @rashb3994
    @rashb3994 10 месяцев назад +66

    I love players like this willing to adapt their game and to their necessary role.

    • @dash4800
      @dash4800 10 месяцев назад +6

      I mean, he physically couldn't do it anymore. Even before Jordan returned he was only averaging 6 ppg. He wither adapted to a new role or was out of the league

    • @rashb3994
      @rashb3994 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@dash4800 Yeah but that's what I mean, some guys refuse to adapt or take on a different role than their old one no matter what. So like Melo scoffed at the bench and remained stubborn even though he wasn't the same and no team would take him for like a year, until he got humbled and finally accepted a lesser role.
      The Lakers when it was Kobe and Gasol were willing to get a declining Iverson if he would accept a role as spark plug off the bench. He didn't even have to change his game. He refused because it was off the bench.

    • @29larron
      @29larron 10 месяцев назад

      ​@rashb3994 Melo is such a easy target.Dude started in Portland when he got back in the league so clearly that he needs to come off the bench nonsense was narrative driven.You internet jokers need to learn to think for yourselves.

    • @rashb3994
      @rashb3994 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@29larron LMFAO, he literally made himself the poster boy for this by publicly mocking coming off the bench! Stop being in your feelings. That's why no team would touch him for a year, and he had to beg and plead because no team wants an aging ex star who still believes he's elite and won't adapt. Him starting in Portland was because they were desperate for some kind of a boost to get them out the hole. It was the first time I saw him do those little team things that would've helped him win more in his prime. Better late than never and I respect that.

    • @29larron
      @29larron 10 месяцев назад +1

      @rashb3994 whenever someone calls u weirdos on y'all nonsense u call it being in your feelings.Well bench players don't avg 24 ppg the first few wks after being told they should come off the bench.They usually show that their game has regressed and that they should be coming off the bench genius.Your just a casual following the script. My mistake was thinking we could debate without u being in YOUR feelings.l won't tag or respond to nothing else u say casual

  • @seancamp2703
    @seancamp2703 10 месяцев назад +81

    Man people do not understand how good Harper was before his injuries.

    • @carlwallace1129
      @carlwallace1129 9 месяцев назад +1

      I did .he played like a Fringed Shooting guard version of Dr J but just couldn't shoot well from outside.

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад +2

      this video - and several others on RUclips - can witness them for themselves. As a Cavs fan, I lived it in the '80's. They tossed 2-3 titles out the window when they traded him.

    • @simonrutledge3171
      @simonrutledge3171 8 месяцев назад +5

      As a Cavs fan, I approve of this message

  • @acrucker
    @acrucker 10 месяцев назад +28

    Ron Harper was a terror for his opponents. He was scary good. His five NBA championships speak for themselves. I’ve always liked his style and demeanor.

  • @sixburgh64ss
    @sixburgh64ss 10 месяцев назад +29

    People would be so surprised when I'd pick the Clippers on the 'NBA JAM T.E.' arcade but Harper was my guy on there. He was so well rounded and Dominique made for a great CPU controlled teammate.

  • @danthedemon4302
    @danthedemon4302 10 месяцев назад +20

    As a kid who tore their ACL twice in 2 years in the 90s I looked up to him for coming back from that dreaded injury and was motivated by him! Awesome to see his career story

    • @unappealingundesirable2826
      @unappealingundesirable2826 10 месяцев назад +2

      Demonic Dan! You're probably within 5 years of age of me, one direction or the other. I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American and male. Knock on wood, I have never blown out my knee. Tore an Achilles heel, in 1993 a moderately sprained ankle, and in 2019 popped the tendon behind my lower leg. I JUST hope I can live my life without tearing a knee. Still, my POINT is, things have supposedly really improved, since the 90s, in terms of knee injuries. I knew Bart Brandenburg, whose father coached San Diego State, was going to be an NBA player. But, around 1989, he blew out his knee, and he didn't even play another COLLEGE game! Now, while we still don't wish knee injuries on anybody, it sounds like one can still make a VERY good recovery, if they were to tear their ACL, in 2024. I'm sure it would be costly, and your insurance likely wouldn't cover it for no dire reason, but, if you had work done on your knees in 2024, (since it's more advanced than what you had in 1990) how much athletic ability do you think you'd regain? Maybe at your (our) age, you're a good candidate for knee replacement. Former NFL player, and now local radio talk show host Dave Wyman, said that he got knee replacement, and it feels better than ever! Kudos to YOU, for surviving TWO knee tears. Along with the physical agony, I'm sure that it had a mental and psychological strain on you and your family, too.

  • @ronque23
    @ronque23 10 месяцев назад +33

    I never remembered all those great years he had in Cleveland. Harp was an athletic freak!

    • @kerry-j4m
      @kerry-j4m 10 месяцев назад +6

      I remembered all those games he played,Harper was a very GOOD player with Cleveland and MJ couldn't do anything with Harper.I remember one Harp had 38 pts against MJ,but,Jordan scored 56 pts against Harper in that particular game. LOL. In those early Bull's games ( regular season and playoffs ) MJ had to score BIG numbers in order for the Bull's to win,Cleveland had other scorer's besides Harper-Hot Rod Williams,Mark Price,Craig Echlo,etc,etc,..Cleveland had the better team-IMHO-but,no one on their team could stop/contain-MJ.

    • @carlwallace1129
      @carlwallace1129 9 месяцев назад

      @user-be7tc2bd6e 💯 great point and break down. Harper had the IQ and was very Sneaky Good offensively especially off the dribble slashing, scoring and making plays for his teammates.

    • @kerry-j4m
      @kerry-j4m 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@carlwallace1129 Thank you for the compliment,amigo,it's appreciated. With Cleveland Harper was more of a scorer,then with the Bulls ( harp said in an interview he was playing on one leg ) he was more of a defensive player.

    • @kerry-j4m
      @kerry-j4m 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@carlwallace1129 Thanks for the compliment,amigo,it's appreciated. Harper was a-MIGHTY-talented nba player.That era of b-ball is gone,but,we can re-capture it through watching those games on youtube.

    • @carlwallace1129
      @carlwallace1129 9 месяцев назад

      @@kerry-j4m facts

  • @LargeDude2023
    @LargeDude2023 10 месяцев назад +17

    My favorite Cav. Dude was amazing before the injury

  • @kincamell2
    @kincamell2 10 месяцев назад +32

    The 1996 Bulls Team are amazing

    • @sebastianliwinski222
      @sebastianliwinski222 10 месяцев назад +3

      72-10... Rodman was my MVP finals... He out fouled Brickowski/Kemp in finals...

    • @jamesbrickner5159
      @jamesbrickner5159 10 месяцев назад

      @@sebastianliwinski222 there is a lot of BS in the comment section of this video, but this here holds true. I think he deserved co-FMVP. Great video here on youtube breaking it down if you care to search it out. Basketball Examined

    • @sideshowbobsaget8876
      @sideshowbobsaget8876 10 месяцев назад

      ​@sebastianliwinski222 No, he wasn't LMAO. Imagine thinking Rodman was more impactful than Jordan

    • @jamesbrickner5159
      @jamesbrickner5159 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@sideshowbobsaget8876 he was at least as impactful in that series. The opponents they faced say it.

    • @sideshowbobsaget8876
      @sideshowbobsaget8876 10 месяцев назад

      @@jamesbrickner5159 he wasn't

  • @Classicbasketballdvds
    @Classicbasketballdvds 10 месяцев назад +30

    good one...very underrated. I liked how he re-invented his game from a scorer and high flyer to a defensive specialist/stopper in the Bulls 2nd 3peat

    • @PhoenixAscending
      @PhoenixAscending 10 месяцев назад +6

      That Bulls team is hands down the greatest defensive team of all time. 2 players who won DPOY, Rodman twice, another guy in Pip who is one of the best defenders ever, and he and Duncan are the biggest snubs ever for DPOY award, , and then they had one of the best defenders at the pg position in the league at the time. They were so long and lanky. Harp was kind of a liability somewhat on offense though, as pg was not his true position. He was an average passer, and not much of a facilitator...but they had Pip and MJ to take care of that

    • @Classicbasketballdvds
      @Classicbasketballdvds 10 месяцев назад +5

      that 2nd Bulls 3peat I think won a lot of games with their defense, esp in the Last Dance season. Harp was shutting guys down@@PhoenixAscending

    • @PhoenixAscending
      @PhoenixAscending 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@Classicbasketballdvds yes he was. The younger generations for the most part just don't get how special of a defensive team that was. Best ever. Their length would cause anyone problems, even the warriors. If they played with hand checking, steph and klay would have problems. Durant too. Pippen would be too strong for him if he could use his hands

    • @Classicbasketballdvds
      @Classicbasketballdvds 10 месяцев назад +1

      yeah, their length was crazy and D-Rod & Pip could guard 1-5@@PhoenixAscending

    • @fszron
      @fszron 10 месяцев назад +3

      He was so badly injured in his younger years that he was forced to player a more slow and defensive game. Grant Hill did the same thing after he got severely injured post-Pistons post 2000

  • @samuraibeastwarrior2886
    @samuraibeastwarrior2886 10 месяцев назад +48

    Fun Fact Ron Harper guest Star on Kenan and Kel

  • @Dantana773
    @Dantana773 10 месяцев назад +19

    Thank You For The Ron Harper Video. He is a very Underrated Player from That His Era.Those Rookie Stats are top tier he should have been rookie of the Year 22.9 ppg 4.8 rebounds 4.8 assists 2.5 steals are some solid numbers It Showed how versatile of a Player Ron was. I was glad he went to the clippers and played with Danny Manning & Company Even after the knee injury Ron helped get the clippers to the playoffs twice and still gave Buckets plus defended the best of them at his position . Yeah he is another one of my Fav players.

    • @Intellectually_Ignorant
      @Intellectually_Ignorant 10 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah twin you were a big Ron Harper fan people say the knee Injury changed his game but it still looked the same to me. folks left the Chi and won two more chips with the Lakers salute Ron Harper

    • @tobznoobs
      @tobznoobs 10 месяцев назад +1

      yeah tyreke evans averaged 20 5 and 5 to win roty, but he aint as good as harper on both sides before the acl injury.

    • @LuciusMcClendon
      @LuciusMcClendon 10 месяцев назад +1

      I Was So Confident About The Bulls Games With Ron Harper On The Team /Jordan,Pippen Rodman , Longley , Paxson🏆🏆

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад +1

      If you watch this clip, Bird couldn't cover him for 0.1 seconds. He knew not to even try.

  • @testostyrone33
    @testostyrone33 10 месяцев назад +10

    Harper was a helluva player. And he had a very impressive overall career. Yet another good report from this channel 💪🏾

  • @florianpoulin7108
    @florianpoulin7108 10 месяцев назад +9

    One amusing fact is that in his last NCAA game vs ISU, he didn't start as Guard or Forward, but as Center. The tallest starter was 6'7 but perhaps Harper had a highest vertical jump. So a small ball lineup ahead of time, way before 2018 Rockets.

  • @ShonWhite-n9l
    @ShonWhite-n9l 10 месяцев назад +4

    Much respect for for Ron Harper

  • @chriswahl4139
    @chriswahl4139 10 месяцев назад +32

    the KJ-Nance trade was a rare win win for both teams

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад

      I didn't like that trade as a Cavs fan, but they couldn't keep both Price and KJ - it never would have worked. Price was awesome, so I agree - win win

  • @luciousthomas6141
    @luciousthomas6141 10 месяцев назад +9

    Jordan’s immediate replacement was Pete Myers! I know because I watched it. When Jordan retired in 93, on opening night of the 93/94 season it was Pete Myers who was starting as SG in Jordan’s place. Ron Harper didn’t come until the following season.

    • @BadNewsfor154
      @BadNewsfor154 10 месяцев назад +1

      I heard that an was like "?". Lol remember that 2 handed chasedown block old wizards comeback mj had against pete Myers

    • @luciousthomas6141
      @luciousthomas6141 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@BadNewsfor154 That chase down block was against Ron Mercer not Pete Myers. Go back and look at the footage.

    • @BadNewsfor154
      @BadNewsfor154 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@luciousthomas6141 damn you have a good memory lol

    • @luciousthomas6141
      @luciousthomas6141 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@BadNewsfor154 Certain things that had an impact on you, you never forget them. I watched most of Mike's career and after that first three-peat when his father was murdered and he retired, I just will never forget watching opening night of the 93-94 season and watching Pete Myers starting in place of Jordan. It was just so odd. That I will never forget! Fast forward years later and when Jordan returns from his second retirement to play with the Wizards I am a senior in college now. I live in VA so I get all the local Wizards games. So when Mike was playing for them I got to watch almost every game he played as Wizard and that chase down block that was a highlight they showed over and over and over and over again! So it sticks out in my mind as something else that I will never forget.

  • @wildcat8598
    @wildcat8598 10 месяцев назад +15

    Ron Harper on the Cavs was a problem for defenders plus he was in the era of actually playing defense and was good at it. Played physical and smart. Smart enough that even after the injury and totally changing his game and remaining a key piece to a team that became a dynasty thanks to his and other teammates play. Imagine Jordan and Pippen without Harper, Kerr, Hodges, Grant etc etc key players to support their star cast cause as we all know it takes a team. No matter if you have the best player or not they can’t do it by themselves

    • @michaelbeale518
      @michaelbeale518 6 месяцев назад +1

      Hodges and Kerr were below average players for most of their careers. Mark Price, John Williams, Larry Nance, and Brad Daughtery was an extremely solid lineup. The 88 Bulls and 89 Bulls roster wasn't as good as the 88 and 89 Cans roster.

  • @redgr81
    @redgr81 10 месяцев назад +5

    I love these, the start from high school to retirement. Great job

  • @GoofTroop5150
    @GoofTroop5150 10 месяцев назад +10

    He's from my hometown Dayton Ohio I remember him playing with the Bulls and Lakers

    • @IllMatic97
      @IllMatic97 10 месяцев назад

      People don't understand the amount of talent Ohio produces

    • @unappealingundesirable2826
      @unappealingundesirable2826 10 месяцев назад

      I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American and male. I thought people from Ohio and Iowa were NICE. Most of the Black people from Ohio are very nice. Many White Ohioans too. But, SO many mean Ohioans: Bob Knight, Bob Stoops, Mike Stoops and Donald Korn. Are people from Ohio nice?

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад

      Miami OH! #8 pick that year by the Cavs, #1 was Brad Daughtery. Price was a 2nd round pick. Nice draft!

    • @jojocoleman8307
      @jojocoleman8307 Месяц назад

      Westwood baby The Gem City

  • @JuggaloSupreme
    @JuggaloSupreme 10 месяцев назад +6

    Wow you gave me more information on one of my favorite players than I ever thought I could have. Keep up the good work!

  • @bobabooey3103
    @bobabooey3103 10 месяцев назад +7

    I remember in an Inside the NBA edition he called himself Alfred to Batman (Jordan) and Robin (Pippen)

  • @STORM3SHADOW
    @STORM3SHADOW 8 месяцев назад +1

    As a huge Ron Harper fan since he entered the NBA and having watched tons of youtube videos featuring him, this is, by far, the best, most comprehensive video I've seen yet. Very well done!
    Reading all the comments, there's not much more I can say that already hasn't been said about his career. The real ones in here know! He has been underrated his entire career. He was snubbed for Rookie of the Year in 86-87. He was snubbed for the All-Star game in 89. And his contributions to the Bulls 3peat were also swept underneath the rug from all the media except for local Chicago press. He was 100% the X-Factor on that 3peat team. Without his contributions on both ends of the court, they probably wouldn't have won 1 or 2 of those titles, esp vs the Jazz.
    The debate about him being the closest thing to Jordan or him being the Jordan stopper probably depend on who you talk to. Poor Man's Jordan was pretty accurate. No one comes close to MJ other than Kobe in that respect. And although Harp gave MJ problems whenever he guarded him in his Cavs days, he didn't really stop Jordan. But I do think out of all the 2 guards in the league, Harper gave him the most trouble on a consistent basis. Which is why its hard to understand why Lenny Wilkens put Ehlo on him for that last second buzzer beater that will go down as one of the most iconic clutch shots in history. You would think Harper would deny him the ball better and if Jordan did get a shot up, Ron's extra 5"+ of vertical would be more of a deterrent for him to miss that shot. We will never know.
    The aging stars of today's NBA who never won a chip could learn a thing or two from Harp's career, esp the ones that are in the twilight of their career(Westbrook, Harden, CP3) by reinventing themselves for the better of the team to win a championship. Iguodala is a perfect example.
    What we do know is Harper had an NBA career most every player would be envious of. He played alongside some of greatest NBA legends: MJ, Pippen, Kobe, Shaq, Nique, Rodman, etc. Yes, he never earned an All-Star nod nor win All-NBA or All-Defense, but how many greats can you name that have 5 rings who played a significant role in each? Thats rarified air! And he will tell you straight up, "no regrets!" and wouldn't change anything about his career. Cheers to Hollywood Harp!

  • @ddfelix4829
    @ddfelix4829 10 месяцев назад +3

    Much love for Ron! Exhaustive video. Well done.

  • @moneyman4740
    @moneyman4740 10 месяцев назад +21

    How didnt Zeke mention Nique when he named the flyers of that era ?

    • @TheRealPhoenixBlackmen
      @TheRealPhoenixBlackmen 10 месяцев назад +7

      Cuz Zeke a hater by default

    • @thebayareastandout
      @thebayareastandout 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@TheRealPhoenixBlackmenany era has more than 3 flyers. Byron Scott was a flyer. Wilkins and his brother could jump. Even Kevin Johnson could jump just as well as Harper.

    • @moneyman4740
      @moneyman4740 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@thebayareastandout but Jordan , Drex and Nique were the most notable 3 of the 80’s

    • @damienburke4996
      @damienburke4996 10 месяцев назад +2

      The same reason that he called him “MJ before MJ”…when MJ came into the league before him. Isiah is the saltiest player ever.

    • @Hoiku76
      @Hoiku76 10 месяцев назад +3

      Glyde, Harp, and MJ were shooting guards while Nique was a small forward is my guess why Zeke mentioned the 3 players?

  • @KL-yy5ck
    @KL-yy5ck 10 месяцев назад +5

    Ronnie Harper! My favorite Cav of all-time. I literally cried when he was traded on November 16, 1989. The Cavs have not really had a 2-guard of that caliber since. And....the trade was not because of his association with drug dealers. The owner, Gund, didn't like Harper's relationship with his daughter! If the Cavs were so wary of a player associating wirhin the drug culture, then why did they acquire Shawn Kemp later when his issues with drugs were weel known?! It's been nearly 35 years since that trade and I stiil get upset thinking about it. If that trade had never happened, I truly believe that the Cavs would have won a championship in the 90's! Magic Johnson had even predicted that the Cavs would be, "the team of the 90's"! Yes...Harper is my favorite Cav of all-time. LeBron is surreal and is my ultimate favorite professional athlete of all-time. Does this make sense?

    • @KL-yy5ck
      @KL-yy5ck 10 месяцев назад

      Uh..excuse me. I got emotional typing my comment and forgot taht Donovan Mitchell is a 2-guard. So, I shall rephrase my original comment to "The Cavs have not really had a 2-guard of that caliber until Donovan Mitchell". Sorry about that!

    • @howardnash9272
      @howardnash9272 10 месяцев назад

      😂

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад

      Same here, @KL

  • @Detroitsince84
    @Detroitsince84 10 месяцев назад +3

    Much respect to Ron Harper 🫡

  • @KdOdom7
    @KdOdom7 10 месяцев назад +1

    Respect Ron Harper. One of my favs growing up and main reason I became a Clippers fan 🧐 🏀

  • @MannyMensah94
    @MannyMensah94 10 месяцев назад +3

    Very good player. Great video 🏀

  • @urbanadventurer5
    @urbanadventurer5 10 месяцев назад +2

    This is a bit of an overstatement. Ron was really really good, but was not on MJ’s level during that era.

  • @djp2k2
    @djp2k2 10 месяцев назад +1

    Dennis Rodman deserves to have his own player profile. His journey throughout his unusual upbringing and college career leading into is equally unusual yet amazing NBA years is a story within itself

  • @lucashenderson2775
    @lucashenderson2775 10 месяцев назад +5

    After playing against the Cavs in the 88-89 season, Magic called them the Team of the 90s because of the talent they had with Ron, Mark Price, Brad Daugherty and Larry Nance. Do I think the Cavs win championships if they kept Harper? Who knows? We can never truly know since he got traded, but it guaranteed they would never at least win the East. As you pointed out, he was still very productive as a Clipper even if he lost some of his explosiveness.

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 10 месяцев назад +1

      That's a always a curse when someone says that about a team, lol. Trading Harper was bad enough, but it was an absolutely horrible trade.

    • @bigglilwayne7050
      @bigglilwayne7050 10 месяцев назад

      Injuries derailed Daugherty and Price, Danny Manning style....

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад

      AFTER the knee injury. Never the same.

  • @tylerriley2587
    @tylerriley2587 10 месяцев назад +8

    Ron Harper was very good

  • @MrShaneVicious
    @MrShaneVicious 10 месяцев назад +12

    The Ron Harper for Danny Ferry trade was one of the worst in NBA history.

    • @Laja-j3b
      @Laja-j3b 10 месяцев назад +1

      Word.

    • @johnjack902
      @johnjack902 10 месяцев назад

      Up11q

    • @johnjack902
      @johnjack902 10 месяцев назад +1

      Up

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад

      They thought he was hanging out with druggie friends. Huge, pathetic mistake. Likely cost them a couple trophies.

  • @Teddy42O
    @Teddy42O 10 месяцев назад +77

    Ron Harper would dominate in today's NBA, he was better than Pippen before his injuries.

    • @carlwallace1129
      @carlwallace1129 10 месяцев назад +20

      💯 harper gave Pippen Fits when he was on the Cavs .

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 10 месяцев назад +7

      Facts

    • @younglove3362
      @younglove3362 10 месяцев назад +8

      Spoken like Jordan fanboys.

    • @carlwallace1129
      @carlwallace1129 10 месяцев назад +20

      ​@@younglove3362 pippen's 1st 2seasons on the Bulls he used to struggle checking Ron Harper while Harper came into the league 1yr earlier. It took pippen 5seasons and Harper blowing his knee out in L A for him to clearly pass him up. But Harper still guarded Prime Penny better then Pippen

    • @carlwallace1129
      @carlwallace1129 10 месяцев назад +11

      @@younglove3362 I'm more of a Prime Penny, Sprewell and VanExel fan.

  • @blakebrown84
    @blakebrown84 10 месяцев назад +2

    Ron Harper Sr. was very underrated as a versatile two-guard who was a 5-time NBA champion. His versatility, scoring ability, and championship pedigree make him a dominant figure in NBA history. He was a starting point guard that allowed him to adapt to different roles and contribute effectively.🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад +1

      He was a 5-time NBA champion as a ROLE player. There's a lot of those.

  • @DeezyRoc
    @DeezyRoc 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great video! Ron Harper was definitely slept on but was a solid baller on the floor.

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад

      "slept on"??

  • @ghostsignal
    @ghostsignal 10 месяцев назад

    You got yourself a new fan with the video on Mase. About to watch the one on Rauf, who's one of my heroes...
    ...however I came to your most recent video to BEG for videos on World Peace and Bison Dele.

  • @stampscapes
    @stampscapes 10 месяцев назад +1

    Such a great player. Was exactly what the Clippers needed when he got traded there but, as always, the Clippers Curse got him with that ACL. I was at the game when he made his return from that injury and he got a triple double. It was strange following that team (Clippers) back then where I wanted them to do well but you felt sorry for any player getting picked by or traded to them as their prime years were being wasted.

  • @spla3600
    @spla3600 2 месяца назад

    I remember Ron Harper as a small child in awe with bulls, I never thought of him more than a defensive player. Little did I know!

  • @hardworkingcriminal4873
    @hardworkingcriminal4873 10 месяцев назад +11

    Ron Harper was for sure a baller pre injury

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад +1

      That injury changed everything for him.

  • @Intellectually_Ignorant
    @Intellectually_Ignorant 10 месяцев назад +1

    What I like the most about Ron Harper is he competed with the best of them and even after he tore his knee up he cake back still averaging close to 20 ppg and helped the clips make the playoffs. Versitale player. The cavs traded him because they thought he was going to.get indicated but after the trade it never happened sounds like something else behind the scenes was at play

    • @dmalley2859
      @dmalley2859 10 месяцев назад

      He got traded because if Harper had stayed with the Cavs, they would be the team of the East, and the NBA wanted the Bulls Michael Jordan to be the team of the East. This was about money the NBA would make with Michael Jordan and the Bulls. This game is set up for the money.

    • @Intellectually_Ignorant
      @Intellectually_Ignorant 10 месяцев назад

      @dmalley2859 yeah I know the NBA is a business and about the money

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад

      @@dmalley2859 The stupidest NBA conspiracy theory I've ever heard.

  • @lashgoshotwheels1127
    @lashgoshotwheels1127 10 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you 😊

  • @tennisgleem
    @tennisgleem 10 месяцев назад +1

    awesome video.....

  • @raymealesmiley_theeunderes8033
    @raymealesmiley_theeunderes8033 10 месяцев назад

    Great vid!🔥

  • @Guiltless765
    @Guiltless765 10 месяцев назад +2

    Dayton 👊🏻👊🏻

    • @jojocoleman8307
      @jojocoleman8307 Месяц назад

      That's right Dayton the Gem City I'm from westwood

  • @PhoenixAscending
    @PhoenixAscending 10 месяцев назад +3

    That cavs team was LOADED! They are not talked about near enough. Daughtery, Price, Harper, Ehlo, Nance, and Kerr. 3 all-star players and anove average role players around them. They just couldn't get past MJ. He tended to keep a lot of all time greats from getting a ring

    • @moeschizlac
      @moeschizlac 9 месяцев назад +1

      They even had a young rookie Kevin Johnson.

    • @PhoenixAscending
      @PhoenixAscending 9 месяцев назад

      @moeschizlac did not know that. Lots if talent on that team

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад

      @@moeschizlac Mark Price and KJ - one had to be moved. That's how they got Nance.

  • @bigglilwayne7050
    @bigglilwayne7050 10 месяцев назад +2

    Ron Harper could've been a Sprewell, but that knee injury turned him into a Jim Jackson/Vernon Maxwell hybrid

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад

      career changer for sure

  • @Mandown21
    @Mandown21 9 месяцев назад +1

    Before his injury I watched Ron Harper Jack Jordan, go down an bang, slam dunk

  • @gerrystevens1694
    @gerrystevens1694 10 месяцев назад

    One of the best and pure Defensive Stoppers that played the 1 and the 2 that has ever played.

  • @harveymcelroy9332
    @harveymcelroy9332 10 месяцев назад

    Damn ur videos are great 😊😊

  • @mauricemartin2982
    @mauricemartin2982 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ron harper was a great before the injury. But he still did his best afterwards.

  • @unappealingundesirable2826
    @unappealingundesirable2826 10 месяцев назад

    34:00 As a Blazers fan, this KILLED.

  • @samuraibeastwarrior2886
    @samuraibeastwarrior2886 10 месяцев назад +7

    The episode that Ron Harper was on Kenan and Kel Kel wanted Ron Harper to sign his Orange Soda Bottle but Kel drop Orange Soda on Ron Harper foot Kenan Store and made Ron Harper foot broke

    • @GHOST91141
      @GHOST91141 10 месяцев назад +1

      😂😂 classic days

    • @perpetualmotion357
      @perpetualmotion357 10 месяцев назад

      I forgot about their obsession with orange soda. I'm guessing they just changed the flavor from grape to poke fun at the stereotypical obsession they have with it lol.

  • @skyMcWeeds
    @skyMcWeeds 9 месяцев назад

    Ron Harper with the Bulls were a nightmare on defense, they had a loaded backcourt in Jordan and Harper and also loaded frontcourt with Pippen, Rodman and Longely. Those guys were big, can move and can defend really well.
    The Box Score don't tell the whole story Ron Harper was a huge part of the 2nd 3peat one of the Bulls defensive anchors, he'd cause problems on opponent's offense.

  • @RunHotsauce
    @RunHotsauce 10 месяцев назад

    Underrated ash bro

  • @Chitownbrotha30
    @Chitownbrotha30 9 месяцев назад

    I love Harp! He was that guy! Even after his injuries, he was an irreplaceable piece of that 72-10 Chicago Bulls team....

  • @butchyray6553
    @butchyray6553 10 месяцев назад

    I'm a fan, his actual narrative you shown I explained a lot,🤯 thank you (from the cavs,to actually playing with Jordan 😲 3 peat, to Coby and shack, yeah awesome career Hall of famer career

  • @CliffPierson777
    @CliffPierson777 10 месяцев назад +5

    I actually think Latrell Sprewell reminds me of a young Ron Harper.

    • @carlwallace1129
      @carlwallace1129 10 месяцев назад

      Harper on Roids😂.

    • @kerry-j4m
      @kerry-j4m 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah,without the mental issues tho-LOL. Imagine,choking your own coach !!! WOW,that's crazy. LOL. Said their coach wasn't treating him or his team-mates like men. What a-DUMMY.

  • @jasonmardoniomeza1711
    @jasonmardoniomeza1711 10 месяцев назад +2

    I agree. But we cant forget about Dominique Wilkins the human highlight reel.

  • @gokublack3107
    @gokublack3107 19 дней назад +1

    His nickname was "the Jordan stopper"

  • @russenterprise6502
    @russenterprise6502 10 месяцев назад +8

    Ron Harper was the star in Cleveland before LeBron James

  • @mathiasmaire9168
    @mathiasmaire9168 10 месяцев назад

    That's what I like in your channel! The guy is even forgotten from the Last Dance! I don't like what ifs but I really wonder what the Cavs would have done if they had the trio Price-Harper-Daugherty longer. But I also have to say : Ron Harper never reached superstar level because he never developed a consistent enough perimeter shooting (mid-range, 3p, FT). Other than that, he was very good. He even got to the playoffs twice with the Clippers... and then the crash! I think you don't say enough how heavily criticized he was during his first two years with the Bulls. From 20 to 7 pts when you're supposed to be the replacement of MJ... That must have been a really tough time for him... Then I think he and Phil made a fantastic job by making Harper embrace a lesser role, but still important one. And there is no mystery why Phil brought Harper to LA. At the end, 5 titles including 4 as a starter. Respect. And congrats for the great vid!

    • @brainspin7518
      @brainspin7518 10 месяцев назад

      I totally agree with you on the Cavs point made....If only.

  • @kahlillmyers9155
    @kahlillmyers9155 10 месяцев назад +1

    I know this is a conspiracy theory, Harper may have been traded to the Clippers to give Jordan a clearer path to the Eastern Conference Championship. Because the Bulls really had problems with the Cavs before the Harper trade.

  • @eugenedantzler4485
    @eugenedantzler4485 10 месяцев назад +3

    If Ron never got injured...... We might be talking top 25 all time!!! Also.. I wish Big L was still here!

    • @dash4800
      @dash4800 10 месяцев назад

      Dude, stop the hyperbole. He was a 22-23 ppg guy at his best. Why do people insist on inflating how good everyone was?

    • @eugenedantzler4485
      @eugenedantzler4485 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@dash4800 yes but he was a two way player... That defense accounts for something as well. It's hard to do anything with a bad knee.

    • @dash4800
      @dash4800 10 месяцев назад

      @@eugenedantzler4485 but at his best, extrapolated for a full career, he was never that good. He was never even all star caliber.

  • @BadgerWolf-19
    @BadgerWolf-19 10 месяцев назад +1

    he lead that lakers 2000 team to the chip keeping Shaq and Kobe level headed. I just re-watched the whole playoff run. Harper did great...but Kobe had his breakout too.

  • @Intellectually_Ignorant
    @Intellectually_Ignorant 10 месяцев назад +4

    Terry Cummings Video.

  • @WillHarp-q3v
    @WillHarp-q3v 8 месяцев назад

    A quick correction Ron Harper was cut his freshman year, not his sophomore year and he was told by the coach doing his junior year that he would not make the team as varsity so that’s why he transferred to Kaiser the same he can beat out his junior year, he was killing him at Kaiser, his junior and senior year no competitioncoach had nightmares at Kaiser high school a blessing for Ron Harper

  • @bobbyharry021490
    @bobbyharry021490 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nah when Harper and Jordan teamed up it was over 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤

  • @vittiriowashington5211
    @vittiriowashington5211 5 месяцев назад

    25:26ish 1 hand putback was clean!

  • @ljerns2167
    @ljerns2167 10 месяцев назад +3

    Harper had relations with the owners daughter that’s why he was traded. He should’ve been at least a 2 time all star

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад +1

      hahah!!! please post a link of proof, I can't wait to read it.

    • @youlovechika
      @youlovechika 6 месяцев назад

      lmao legend

  • @unappealingundesirable2826
    @unappealingundesirable2826 10 месяцев назад +1

    21:10 How did Ron Harper get BETTER at defense, when he got older? 1991-92: Defense: C. For 1992-93, 1993-94 and 1994-95: Defense: D. Yet, for 1995-96: Defense: A+. One doesn't usually get BETTER at defense, when they're on the wrong side of 30!

  • @glaucouscactus
    @glaucouscactus 10 месяцев назад +1

    Ron Harper is the best 6 man ever when he was with the Bulls. Great player, and very underrated imo.

    • @dash4800
      @dash4800 10 месяцев назад +2

      Lol, he was the starting pg, not 6th man

    • @krces1
      @krces1 2 месяца назад

      Toni Kukoč was 6th Man and by far better player

  • @craigdavis5407
    @craigdavis5407 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hollywood!!!

  • @Boneyard44
    @Boneyard44 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great player, fit that Bull’s team perfectly 🤙🏽

  • @usmankenchi908
    @usmankenchi908 10 месяцев назад +6

    Brian Grant

  • @jevogroni4829
    @jevogroni4829 10 месяцев назад +2

    having ron, mj, pippen, dennis on one team is totally busted from a defense perspective.

  • @cs4mo
    @cs4mo 3 месяца назад

    You have to show more defensive clips of some of these guys as it showcases someth8ng todays nba does not have which is lock down defense. Ron harper was a PURE lockdown defender. His defense made instant offense everywhere he went. Please showcase more of what made the 80s and 90s the best the nba had ever seen. There was a reason teams werent averaging 130 points a game like they are today.

  • @ljavery10
    @ljavery10 10 месяцев назад

    Good video..kinda random but can u do a video on DARYL STRAWBERRY..ik u can do him justice and he was fire

    • @ForgottenPlayerProfiles
      @ForgottenPlayerProfiles  10 месяцев назад +1

      Appreciate it. I don't think I'll ever make baseball videos personally, I'm just not a huge fan and don't know nearly enough about the sport or the players to feel confident enough to make a good video.
      But I do hope that if the channel continues growing, that one day I can maybe bring someone on who knows a lot about other sports to help expand. So hopefully at some point some baseball vids will hit the channel. Probably won't be for awhile though.

    • @ljavery10
      @ljavery10 10 месяцев назад

      @@ForgottenPlayerProfiles how bout Spud Webb lol.. I’m from Atl lol but hey man do ur thing I enjoyed ur videos u go in depth..loving the channel also.. hey u think u explore like college teams..like 91 unlv duke unc Kentucky Arkansas fab 5 etc..I’ve been subscribed btw..and maybe sum and 1 or Harlem globetrotters..peace and blessing bro

    • @ljavery10
      @ljavery10 10 месяцев назад

      @@ForgottenPlayerProfiles and 1 more thing baseball in the 80s 90s was wild and was mixed with black white and Hispanic players with the most popular being the former…it was a lot of sex drugs alcohol fights and steroids abuse going on back then..nothing like this 2000’s boring bs…ok I’m finished frfr lol

  • @TheSands83
    @TheSands83 10 месяцев назад

    Harp was a great defender. Great in the transition game. Could hit the mid range jumper. Had that insane wingspan but struggled from outside but could knockdown the 3 enough to keep teams honest

  • @WinstonCorneilius
    @WinstonCorneilius 10 месяцев назад

    Growing up in this era, I appreciate you doing this profile. Those bulls teams would have Bill Russell rings today

  • @James-ki5ix
    @James-ki5ix 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thomas forgot about Wilkins

  • @DeeCooper-y9t
    @DeeCooper-y9t 10 месяцев назад +2

    So now you have to do Wally Z soon... another Miami of Ohio legend

  • @sameernelson9684
    @sameernelson9684 10 месяцев назад +5

    Ron harper is very unrated., he's very versatile😂.

    • @carlwallace1129
      @carlwallace1129 10 месяцев назад

      Harper was the epitome of Sneaky Good 😂. He should have made 1 allstar team in his Cavs stint

  • @richardyoon4209
    @richardyoon4209 8 месяцев назад

    Insightful video, I always wondered why Cleveland traded Ron Harper to the Clippers at the time especially when Danny Ferry wasn't even available to play for the Cavs for a year. So Cavs got nothing for a year for Harper and it killed their 1990 season. It didn't help that Danny Ferry was a total bust later on

  • @JeffreyHarrison-o8t
    @JeffreyHarrison-o8t 10 месяцев назад +1

    It wasn't Harper Clyde and jordan that was the 3 high flyers it was Wilkins 21 Clyde 22 and Jordan 23 at that in the 80s there were 3 players who wanted to be the next Dr J in the 1980s

  • @Bhutan_1212
    @Bhutan_1212 10 месяцев назад

    No issues with speech. His game did the talking on both ends. If not for injuries we would be speaking about him in a completely different tone and at a different level. Even though his career didn't pan out the way it should have he was able to adapt and evolve, becoming a key role in championship teams. This is a true testament to his sheer will, physical abilities and basketball knowledge.
    🙏🏼🏆🕓

  • @eksit101
    @eksit101 10 месяцев назад

    Actually harp & manning reason why I watched clips. Grant it, all NBA games (especially clips) we're free on local tv. Was good to see him win a few here with the real team.
    Actually surprised you didn't mention Brad Daughtery being Jordan's teammate (a long with Perkins & worthy)

  • @ReyHugoTelevision614
    @ReyHugoTelevision614 10 месяцев назад

    Harper was in dem skreetz of Cleveland lol😂

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад

      Dayton, not Cleveland. That's where his bros lived

  • @DeCurtaRican
    @DeCurtaRican 4 месяца назад

    They used to call Harper “a poor-man’s Michael Jordan.” There were even running jokes after a news station confused Ron Harper’s highlights for Michael Jordan’s.

  • @typhillips490
    @typhillips490 10 месяцев назад

    I was Ron Harper in my backyard. Facts ❤

    • @mjp96
      @mjp96 9 месяцев назад

      Never got out of your background, did you?

  • @DefeatHuNNid
    @DefeatHuNNid 10 месяцев назад

    He won 96-2001 all championships damn!! That should be an record!!

    • @krces1
      @krces1 2 месяца назад

      He didnt win 99 Spurs were champs

  • @nbagoats4819
    @nbagoats4819 10 месяцев назад +1

    As good as Harper's defense was, it couldn't do anything to stop or even slow down MJ. MJ posted 55pts on Harper in the playoffs.

    • @krces1
      @krces1 2 месяца назад

      Jordan was 32ppg vs Harper so yes he couldnt stop him

  • @kmarkhamussco
    @kmarkhamussco 10 месяцев назад +2

    Harper was a beast

  • @Riles3152
    @Riles3152 10 месяцев назад

    Cleveland trading Harper set them back over a decade. It’s not to say that he was a superstar, but he was a star quality 2 guard that could at least match up with young MJ on both ends of the court. They made the ECF in 92 without him but they would have continued to compete to get to the finals with a healthy prime Harper.

  • @Youtzushka
    @Youtzushka 7 месяцев назад

    I don't think Harp had only 10-ish points per games with the Bulls because of injuries. It was his duty to be a supportive member of the team behind MJ, Pippen, and Rodman. And he understood this very well.

  • @arch.l.a.deleon445
    @arch.l.a.deleon445 10 месяцев назад

    I always mistaken him as MJ, the way he moves the way they look from a far...he look like MJ too in this photo. 1:30 Ron is one of kind great underrated player👍❤. And that's what good thing happened like, Steve and Dennis, Ron is a bitter rival of MJ, instead the Bulls took them along side with him, including Toni for MJ and Scottie as their nemesis in the Olympics, btw I'm proud of my kababayan as his ex wife 😊.

  • @miguelalegria3614
    @miguelalegria3614 10 месяцев назад

    The fact that all of these pre-90s players could be this athletic looking like broomsticks and basically wearing asphalt for shoes...

  • @cedricmccutchen3617
    @cedricmccutchen3617 10 месяцев назад

    I really was glad when the bulls pick up Ron a big guard who can play defense and make clutch shots. Big back court that was the great days