ADV Bikes DON'T SUCK! (Why You Need One)
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This is Spite in this video, and not me. Just in case you guys forgot ;)
You're trying to divert youtube comments' attention toward Spite?
That's just mean
20:18 You say something Yam?
@@scottch4444 he was speaking in tongues of the great Rossi and they deemed it too explicit for general consumption.
And as you probably discovered .. you do not need a gym when you drive an ADV .. Especially a heavy one like my CRF 1100 .. One day out on some gravel roads and trails, you will discover muscles you had no idea you had :)
Who's spike?
Off road is where it's at. Gotta stand up more, hit hills with more momentum, let the bike move around, and don't fight the handlebars ie let your balance dictate your path. Good stuff 👍
Ayo crf250l gang
This is a big reason to try the offroad life, imho, be it via adv bike, or dual sport - it's a wholly different skillset, and having both makes you a better street rider. It's *great* though to have the experience of building that skillset, just doing something different. Nice to feel new to riding again.
Exactly. Choose a good lane and do not hesitate to change your plan if you go off that lane.
Dont try to control the bike, just sail that thing up the hill with momentum.
I'm not knocking ADV bikes, but the off roading I do is pretty serious. Those big heavy bikes would not make it. That's why I ride a street bike ( VFR800) on road, and a full on MX bike (YZ250) off road...
@@enlightenedidiot9552 Exactly. Adventure bike are more suited for back roads then off road.
You dont want to drop a GS 1250 (500 + lbs) in a middle of a hill, cause if your alone, forget it man... throwing the key in the bushes and declare it stolen would be more simple than trying to lift it back on 2 wheels.
Down here in Australia, the term is ‘two-track,’ as opposed to ‘single-track’. The former is typically shaped by the wheel tracks of a four wheeled vehicle. Also, an adventure bike will take you places you wouldn’t usually go. I guess that’s why the term ‘adventure’ is so apt, but you have to be OK with dirt, dust, mud, rocks, sand, slower speeds and sometimes being a million miles from civilisation.
Single track is literally a single track not a 4wd track.
Bruh, do u even lift? Just, don't skip leg day, it'll be fine.
:P
@@NZ2STROKE Same here. Single track is more challenging and often adventure bike eating. Just the same, some people with GS1250s believe they are as nimble as a motocross bike - single track always wins.
Single track = track made my bikes/walkers.
@@lrowlands53 I'm in Aus and I don't think Ive ever heard someone use the terms single track or two track 😅 Everyone's says trail riding
Hondas CB500X is probably the most underrated, small ADV bike out there! I've taken mine places it probably has no business going 9ff road and it's also got good wind protection and legs for the highway
Adventure bikes are awesome! Dual sports are awesome! Totally different machines but one is obviously better off road and one is better on road. I use my DR350 as a light weight middle ground machine (4.2 gallon tank and Tusk soft luggage). It will run 60/65 MPH all day long and I often do 500 miles a day with it. Great older enduro for the $!!!
Awesome seeing this comment! Picking up a 93 DR350 this weekend, can’t wait to go and rip back roads and trails with it
I have a 98 Dr 350se. Changed the rear sprocket so I can get up to 70mph on the highways. Ride it every day to work and off road as well
I went from big to small. Got a van for my vacations and a CRF 250 L for riding around wherever I go! Best thing I ever did. Just unload it and start exploring or go into a town. If the weather gets bad I just load it into the back of the van. Cheers Yammie, and happy New Year!
I've been thinking about going that route. Glad it's working for you!
If you get stuck in an uphill, lay the bike down, grab the back tire and pull it uphill. Then lift the bike, start it in 1st gear, jump on and keep going.
10:35 a hatchback can certainly tow a motorcycle, I use to tow my 3 seater Yamaha waverunner with a small ford fiesta diesel.
100%, people tow caravans and trailers regularly with sub 2l 4cyls here in NZ.
Spite talks a lot of nonsense.
@@izzy031096 😄
Yeah, a D-RZ400 isn't much heavier than 2 passengers.
To each his own when it comes to dual sport vs. ADV, but I'll simply say this: worldwide ADVer and RUclipsr, Itchy Boots, would take issue with this. None of her bikes have been bigger than a 500. She's travelled tens of thousands of miles in multiple countries on different continents, and it seems to me that a lighter, more basic bike is better. A big, fancy ADV bike with rider modes and other tech is not only heavier and more unwieldy off road; there's more stuff to go wrong.
On the other hand, she's tiiiiiiny, and is able to spend most of her time offroad (or at least, off pavement). Spikes point here is that for many of us (most?)you MUST spend a ton of time on pavement for a little time off, so it's damn nice to not have that pavement time suck.
With that said, I agree the tech is meh. You're best off - if lots of time on pavement is a reality for you - going middleweight ADV. Much easier to handle and less to go wrong vs the big bikes, and every bit as fast in practice.
Dual sports make more sense if you're trailering them out somewhere, or just live super close to where you want to ride. Or you want to do MUCH more challenging riding than fire roads and doubletrack. Sure, Pol Tarres does crazy shit on a T7, but if you want to learn that stuffz you want to learn it on a dual sport or even a dirt bike, not a 450lb adv bike.
I'm new to riding, endorsement for 6 months, I don't know alot about motorcycles, but I can confidently say that I am going to do 1,000+ miles on my new Honda crf250l rally in the 1st month after the snow melts, I'm going to hopefully level it out at 50/50 for those miles and fully enjoy it, if it's uncomfortable then get some mods or a new seat, customize your bike for you 😁
@@MudOregonVet You're new. You don't have the perspective to appreciate what it's like to do pavement miles on something designed to do that.
Don't get me wrong. I love bikes, all bikes. But different bikes do things VERY differently and the experience is entirely different. If you think the experience of riding a crf250l on streets is anywhere remotely like an Tenere 700 or GS1250A you're in for a marked surprise.
But where the CRF250L is sublime in the dirt, it's sooooooo slow once you're out on twisty roads, let alone highway. You can do it for sure, and any time on two wheels is good time, but it's nowhere near as enjoyable on pavement as a bigger bike.
@@Wintersdark I'm 6'1 and I weigh 180 pounds and I still prefer the smaller bikes. They are just better and more fun to ride.
@Zachariah stgeorge small modern scooters can get you anywhere I'm 60 currently sitting on a mountain range the Great Australian divide
I bought a 2015 V-strom 650 (due to my height, first bike, etc).... it has been the absolute best purchase I could have ever made. REALLY good at everything, not exceptional/bad at anything and ultra reliable.
I had an 05 WeeStrom. My very favorite bike I have ever owned besides my FJR.
I have an 03 dl1000 and couldn’t agree more, the strom gets no love
Learn the Aruba Elite Police lift , I'm better on my V Stromo now that I cross arms to pick it up, Peace3ed
Got a WeeStrom myself and a TW200. The Strom is for the fire roads and the two is for the offtrail forest and muddy days
That's one big advantage to off road riding, you get great excercise and it's a lot of fun.
A couple of weeks ago I brought a Royal Enfield Himalayan and haven’t had so much on a motorbike in a long time even if it’s has only 24 hp
It’s fun coming across a dirt raid and actually seeing where it goes and not just wondering.
The Tripper Nav is brilliant you set your destination and it lets you know if that dirt road you just turned down is a dead end or not if it’s not it just reroutes and I have found some really cool dirt roads and trailers.
Plus it is super comfy for a long ride.
This video is more in the scope of the limitations applied to those of us that live in Texas, especially in one of the bigger cities. I'd much rather have a CRF300L than my Tiger 800 XRx, because it takes me at least 1hr of riding in Houston in either direction to find gravel and dirt. For the rest of the country, probably 90%, a big adventure bike makes no sense unless you'll be touring too. I've been riding 20+ years, a lot of it on dirt, but at the end of the day, even the most skilled rider will have a better time on the proper equipment. I've put my Tiger on jeep track, and single track... it's a chore.
Probably doesn't help that your taking the on road version of the tiger off road. the tiger 800 XCx is the off road version.
@@sirspectrum6865 I'm well aware I have a tiger roadie with a 19" front wheel. A 21" front wheel will still not change the fact that it's still an almost 500lb motorcycle. There are better tools for the job, but like I said, the video was with a Texas slant where if you live in a big city like Austin or Houston, you can't really have a small bore thumper. It takes an hour to just get from one side of the city to the other, another 30 minutes to see countryside or dirt.
@@TexasLeverGunner yea your right I just wasn't sure if you were aware about the different models of the tiger I myself just bought a tiger 800 XRt , I live in the north of England and I would assume the riding would be totally different than from were you are from. i can ride 10 minutes and be surrounded by farms another 20 mins and be in the Yorkshire dales national park, I do have a question though. touring is a massive deal over here because there are so many different countries packed into Europe, is touring not as popular in the US.
@@sirspectrum6865 The XRt is great, and when I bought my roadie I strongly considered it. In the end I couldn't justify the 21" front as most of our roads within 200-300mi of me are just poorly paved roads that haven't had repairs in 20-30 years, or gravel. You're right, it is a lot different where you live. I used to watch svengalie (RIP) when he was still with us, and you guys have an amazing trail system over there I guess you call "byways"? I envied it then and I envy it now!
Touring is a really big deal here. You just have to keep in mind that motorcyclists make up roughly 3% of the US population. We just don't have as many motorcyclists here as you guys have in Europe, but amongst the motorcycling community, touring is a real big thing.
"Angry hillbillies" aka landowners... I love riding, but when I see people riding inside my fence, I ask them to leave. If they get hurt, I could be liable or sued.
"I ask them to leave. If they get hurt, I bring out the shovel and finish the job..." -angry hillbilly
I ride on other peoples properties all the time, I don’t go anywhere that’s fenced off or has posted signs but other than that most people don’t care that much
I’m going to make a video titled: “Sports bikes don’t suck. Why you need one”
Love your work, Spite! I think you’re absolutely right, that ADV bikes are excellent fun and will take you to the trails as well as on them. But here’s the thing - if you haven’t ridden on dirt before, an ADV bike is not a good place to start. A GSanamerica is not dirt’s turbo busa-it’s definitely not! And unless they’re called Boorman or McGregor, anyone you speak to about riding actual distance on all terrains will favour lighter bikes.
Depends on the rider, and the bike, but yeah lighter usually equals less punishment. Some of us are masochists though...
I had no motorcycle riding skill prior to get my 2012 VStrom 650… boy is it ever fun off-road.
Dropped it more times than I can count but I don’t care.
Best 5k I’ve ever spent.
The "smaller" ADVs like the T7 and dual sports are where it's at. Road is fun and all, but dirt and power sliding everywhere is really hard to beat.
That...and being able to launch off everything while you're out--->I've never been such a squid in public until I got a T7 🤣
Might I suggestion is to get one of each ... each has their place
Two months ago I bought my very first Motorcycle... I chose the BMW F850 GS adventure and couldn't be happier, I'm tall enough to plant both feet completely on the ground so I don't struggle that much the weight (you just feel it while slow speed maneuvering) and I come from a Mountain bike background in Baja so there's a lot of trails to enjoy on my bike.
You will come to realise planting both feet is not an advantage nor necessary to manage a bike. In other words, overpowering the bike with your body is pointless when you know how to balance its weight in every situation.
@@lrowlands53 dumb answer. It's VERY practical in any offroad situation. You obviously don't need to reach both feet. But saying that is pointless is soooooooo dumb.
@@thierryfaquet7405 So the best you can do is ad hominem - not a good sign. I’m sorry you got butt hurt.
this dude's always wrong about motorcycles, isn't he
He's just trying to appeal to everyone in the motorcycle community.
Sports touring is dumb! Adventure bikes are better!
Sports touring isn't dumb! Adventure bikes are dumb!
Nevermind, adventure bike aren't dumb!
That's how he gets views is from controversy and changing his opinion. He's done it for some time.
I'm sure he'll come back and change his mind on something else he said.
My KLR650 with a 16 tooth sprocket cruises on the highway no problem and takes me off road no problem. Yeah I had to add a lot of technology to it but I don’t cry when I drop it. But I get having a bigger adventure bike would be nice. Personally paying $20k+ for a motorcycle is a deal breaker for me. I don’t finance vehicles.
I wouldn’t say spite is out of shape. Round is a shape.
Everyone needs to be in dirt at one point. It's a completely different understanding of your bike.
The trick to make the DRZ 400 a better bike is a FMF full exhaust and Kiehin carb. Will feel like a completely different bike. And a Corbin seat will extend how long you can ride
As someone born on a dirtbike, this is painful to watch. Hitting hills with no momentum?
Picking all the worst lines through the rocks?
Who taught you to ride dirt? They did a terrible job
Haha, I know, and if you need to go that slow use the clutch to prevent stalling. Probably a good thing he was on the smaller bike (which should be tons of power to rip through there, even my 250cc from my 14 year old self would have ripped through there probably far faster than safe speeds)
Your mazda 3 can tow that stuff just fine. People underestimate the towing capabilities of most vehicles.
Yeah goes to show how much experience this dude has with all vehicles.. Let alone motorcycles where his opinions are questionable at the best of times.
Yep. I tow bike trailers with my Golf all the time
People overestimate even more lmao
Have a cb500x, off road set up, it is AWESOME!!
.... Not as fast as bigger bikes but you ain't going super fast through the forest!! ....cb500x, comfy, 400lbs @300 miles a tank, YES!!
the subtitle to this video should be: discovering the obvious. Every time "something sucks" probably you overlooked some aspects
Adventure bikes are appealing in many ways and not for their minimal offroad capabilities. Much more comfortable for longer cruising than any sport bike or dual sport. Handling and performance closer to sport bike at prudent street speeds. Lighter and better performance than most cruisers or touring bikes yet can stil.comfortably carry a passenger plus gear. Better suspension and tires for rough road or fire road riding.
I have a Duke 390 and it's basically a slightly scaled down version of that bike and I rode it 80 miles on freeway, 30 miles highways, 60 miles over a mountain range and came out at the Oregon coast and than rode another 120 miles on highways and backroads back to Roseburg. I didn't need extra gas and I'm a 60 year old crippled up man. The only limitations that bike has is the people that ride it.
Im working on getting my 2022 cb500x. Just have to wait for the american market to catch up with Europe
I bought a 1100l africa twin no regrets .love it offroad and chill cruse on tarmac
As an owner of an Africa Twin, I LOVE MY DAD JEANS!
Preaching to the choir papa Yam. I got a Versys X300 last year. It will run at Texas highway speeds (75mph). I'm 75 and I love the little bike.
I rides with a 69 year old neighbor who rides a stock seat, knobby tired DRZ400. We go for day long road trips and at the end of the day he boasts about his bike for being a great "all-arounder" lol Don't know how he does it.
I have a dr650 in New Zealand that I daily to work and go on whole day adv trips, even take it with my dirt bike mates and keep up with them the dr650 definitely can do it all
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Very important tip : some people are really stupid and hate motorcycles going on trails because it's " annoying " them , even though you're legally allowed to go on those trails as long as it's not private property , so what they do is set up wires on those trails thinking it will stop riders from going there . What would really happen though , a guy or kid be riding his dirt bike or adv , doesn't notice the wire and next thing you see is a headless rider . So be safe out there , stay sharp and keep your eyes open for traps set up by crazy people who have a boring life and they don't want others to enjoy theirs .
I finally found the spot that Yammie goes to in Austin, can’t wait to get on my little TW and try it out.
Well that wasn't Yam, but you might see Spite (Yam's employee who made this)
Bit of a weird video concept, let's disparage dual sports while riding around on one. Would you rather have been stuck up the middle of that hill around the 18th minute mark on the bike you were on or a gs1200? You would rather be on a monstrous dual sport in the sand rather than say a tw200? It's just a weird way to make a point.
Yep. Would be great to see Yammie on a Tenere or GS!!! Have him try to punish it on hills the dual sport crushes.
Chill with that front brake down hill my dude. Off road, the rear break is a must much more than on road.
I have 2 bikes a TW200 and a VStrom 650. Love them both to death. The 650 crunches highway miles way better than you suggested. Ive done several trips from Atlanta to Nashville and it's been fantastic. Sure it's not a cruiser or an fjr but it's still more than enough for running an hour up the road to the mountains. My tw is for the muddy days close to my house or trailering to the mountains
Agreed, two bikes are the way to go. I'm spoiled with trails galore here in Utah, but have to hitch haul my TW200. Would love to have a Honda 300 Rally or T7 for longer jaunts. Could even trade the TDub for a trials bike for even more dirt capability...but that little bastard is too much fun.
best outro yet Yammi! also love spikes take on adv bikes.
I have a v85tt and it's a blast on dirt roads and fire trails.
I agree that your wrong. Of course if you mostly ride the freeways, it's not going to be best choice for that...dah! But what it does do, is open up a lot more options and opportunities for urban adventure and mountain roads. The biggest problem with DRZ is fuel range and that can be remedied by packing extra fuel and that's not a hard thing to do.
I'm amazed its that bad, my enduro 250 (generic honda clone) made 90 mpg WOT trying to burn fuel (would still do about 65 mph on gravel roads), and if you needed fuel economy driving slower then you could make 108 mpg with 2 people riding it. With its 3 gallon tank, you could easily do 250+ miles driving like mad doing stoppies and drifts every turn, then pull a wheelie taking off again, slap a similar sized fuel tank on it and you'd be making 400 miles especially on a highway. I'm not sure how it could make such little fuel economy on his, but maybe he's referring to off-road only.
Just to let you know people , 2023 ninja 400 is going 4 cyl and that's beautiful
I love videos with spite, being the bigger rider like him it’s good to get a perspective from him compared to papa yam who is built like a jokey, good work yammie team
Spite wants the Pan-Am soooo bad lmao
I’m turning 33 was thinking about getting a truck for overloading but decided to get an adv for my making it to the trail heads I’ve been hiking and camping and to tackle off road trails and expand my adventure. I also live in Memphis so got the Africa Twin since I knew I would be driving an average of 3-6 hours to most of my destinations. Or hit the beach in 6 hours.
This kind of off-road as well as the ratio of the road vs off-road looks exactly what I do with my TDM 900.
I like the versatility of the bike. Especially for the price. It costs half of a small GS and has a bit more power on tap for the highway long hauls.
No shit, they’re awesome.
Too heavy for real off road work though. Unless you’re like really great at it.
The key to getting the most out of an adventure bike offroad is getting super comfortable balance on the pegs. (a MX skill) When you can let them move under you, it is flat shocking where one of those big bikes will take you.
A good steering stabilizer is also your friend.
I'm a strong believer in not categorising motorcycles. Hear me out. I'd ride anybike in any situation however 2 and 4 strokes should remain segregated
Ducati Panigale V4S down a single track it is
@@kevinlugonzbi6005 I've ridden a heavy chopper through a field with knobby tires and ramped a few small terraces. I'm not saying it should be done, but maybe, if its for a video might as well!
As demonstrated in the video. Your physical condition will help you the most in riding off road or even on-road with any bike. I have done all day rides on pavement with my buddy on his Ninja 1000SX on my WR250R. Good core strength gives you the endurance so you are just fine doing all that seat time with no wind protection. On the flip side, muscling a larger adventure bike off road is so much easier when you have cardio and strength to back it up. Plus you will need the strength to pick up the bike when you go down.
If you can't handle something like a exc500 off road then how on earth can you handle something much larger and more powerful?
The offroad performance depends not just on the bike but on the tires as well - maybe even more so. But there are no tires that perform well in sticky mud as well as on the tarmac. Adv bikes are harder to pick up (which you will likely be doing quite often off the road) and there's more to break when they fall but while they're going, an adv with offroad tires might even perform better than dual sport with hybrid ones, doubly so because most adv bikes are more expensive so they have better components such as the suspension etc.
And if you really need the offroad performance, you're better off with a dirt bike which is lighter, generally has better suspension and better engine response.
1) it’s called a “two-track” because there are two tracks.
2) since you passed a power line pole every 100 feet, I’m going to go out on a limb and say that it’s a “power line road” put in for line maintenance by the utility.
3) your super-moto is geared UP, not down. If it was geared down it would have a top end of like 50 mph.
I have a Tenere, I’ve taken it on long distance road trips and on some gnarly trails, dropped it off road many times. It’s bulletproof. Comfortable on and off road, light for an ADV, and it’s cheap compared to a BMW or KTM.
This video confirmed what I thought. I live in the country. Tons of dirt roads that would be fun to explore, heck the shared driveway I have to go down is dirt. I don't have to travel to get to offroad stuff. So dualsport is a better option for me especially bc its lighter... thanks spite
I have a 2019 vstrom 650, Awesome bike.
@@everettstormy I agree that’s my least favorite part about it. Though it makes up for it how fun it is.
1:15 - ADV riders call that "stealth camping area".
Thanks Yammie Noob, nice vid. A nice spanking new Africa Twin is the answer! Torque where it is needed and not sacrificed for the purpose of unnecessary high end superbike-like power. May be the perfect bike. Can run with the best on the trail and cruise ALL day long with a passenger AND luggage at 120 - 140 kph (75 - 85 mph) all day long and into the night. Best looking so-called 'ADV' bike too. I view it as a 'big trailbike' like they did in the 70s. I currently ride a 2014 Multistrada but the unreliability and iffy quality is getting very old. I need that wonderful Japanese Honda reliability & quality again in my life, me thinks 🙂 Yep, I'll do with less top end power which I rarely use on the road. DCT has this Africa Twin moving as quick or quicker than any Multistrada around town (real world use) - and MUCH smoother for the passenger. Can hardly wait!
I love how that ducati desertx looks. Reminds me of old africa twin
Yamm how about you do a bidding site for motorcycles only. For example like Doug Demuro he did cars & bids. Would you consider it?
I have to call BS on the towing. I've towed 4 wheelers and motorcycles behind my Ford Focus and Chevy HHR on a 4x8 trailer.
Yammie noob! I’ll keep watching if you compare drz400E to drz400S. You the man.
Off road is also fun, one of the joys of owning a bike is that you can almost go anywhere so I say this is a very pleasant video but am I convinced? No! Adventure bikes are not only costly but they require a lot of skill, that said I do fancy those smaller advs like that GS 300 then there is the Kawasaki V300 and I think that Suzuki has one too but they cost.
back roads and gravel are what it's all about for dual sports anyway. tons of the good stuff here in the west, unlike Texas 🤢 hop between national forests, small towns you'd never see otherwise, camp wherever you want, point your bike wherever you want and you'll get there. small bikes have more fun ;)
You actually think Texas is short on back roads? Lol...
You're a smart youtuber yammie!
If you ride interstate highways, get an ADV bike. If torn between an ADV and dual sport, get a small 300cc to 400cc ADV bike. They're in their own niche. Small and maneuverable to be most of a dual sport off road, but comfortable on the road and able to ride at interstate speeds almost as well as a big ADV bike. Love my G310GS.
Small ADV bikes are also great for older riders who can no longer comfortably muscle a big bike, allowing them to ride into their 70s or 80s.
You should get a klr 650 before you get the pan america harley 😉
Not being able to tow a 130kg bike with a hatchback must be the most American thing I've heard in a while.
What hatchback do you have? An 80s Fiat Uno?
Turbo Busa ADV...make it happen papa yam
you stole my comment from the gs video cmon bruv
@@daniellacko6620 I... literally did not even see that video
@@shazinaboobacker6991 lol than its actually funny. commented the same shit:'D
@@daniellacko6620 great minds think alike my friend
I'd love a new 1050 V-Strom, but could make due with a 650. I used to think these bikes with beaks were pretty weird, but somehow Suzuki made it look good.
Time for the turbo busa ADV edition!
Yeah, there are some GSX-R 1000cc engine swaps and even a video of someone with just knobby tires on one blazing trails and drifting around trees like its nothing.
Hey there Spite. I'll buy your bike for as much trash talk your giving it. Lighter weight, better maint interval, exponentially more affordable. Gear it back to dual sport and with larger tires you'll tractor back up those fire roads the way Suzy designed it to. Living in the west and having a van to hitch it onto or toss it into I could suffer the occasional long approach to a riding destination. I do actually like the sound of your idle there at 70 though. Keep up the good work at trying to devalue these humble work horses. The market is elevated these days. Be well
I do not condone people who take their off-road vehicles and vandalize private property, and owners have the right to defend their land, however I am convinced that some people enjoy hiding in wait for trespassers just so they can jump out and scare them off. They seem to derive pleasure from this.
Thanks Yammie Noob. I almost gave up on them as a class of bike. Can't believe you flexing for the gram.
Wonder how long it'll take them to notice the outro.
Love you guys! I really love the rare off road videos too.
It looks a little ridiculous having the DRZ400sm stuck up a hill but those tires really suck offroad. I feel you... disliked the small gas tank, too frequent fill ups. Got saddle burn due to seat on a one day 650 km loop - Timiskaming Loop Northern Ontario. Needless to say changed something more appropriate to my style of riding - Ninja 650 sport/touring which is ok but looking for the ideal ADV bike... suggestions?
Spite be like: “You guys don’t want a fun little dualsport, you want a fat piece of metal that you can’t whip around.” Like bro we aren’t on trails to sight see we’re on trails to larp as motocross racers
Get yourself a battered old XR250, you won't care if you drop it, you can't break it (almost), and it doesn't depreciate much.
I won’t ride my drz on the road over 65 mph or for more than an hour.
Biggest gripes are its underpowered, needs 6th gear and more fuel range. EFI would be nice too for the really cold days. I’m looking at a T700 or Africa twin. I think I will go T700 for now than get a bigger bike later.
I needed one, I bought one -Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro, I love it. Can't wait to do the Colorado BDR this year.
a 690 on sumo wheels with 70/30 tires is so streetable for long distances
Have to be honest, I have been toying with the idea of swapping my 2020 Husky 701 Sumo for the new Husky Norden 901. I think the Norden would better line up with the kind of riding I normally do and with the cross country travel plans I have in mind.
im actually considering the 701 as a commuting hooligan adv explorer. lol sporty enough for canyons, hop up and down curbs and hit a fire road here and there. then back to commuting duties during the week.
Yammie! (or Spite?) I live and ride in California, where lane splitting / lane sharing / filtering at a red light is legal and pretty much expected of a rider. I was very surprised to see you do it in Texas. Is it now legal there, or at least tolerated? No crazy cagers doing some stupid run you off the road "Hey, you can't do that!" ?? If it is now legal or at least tolerated, congratulations! MUCH safer!
Do not want to get shot, do not entry others property. Simple as piece of cake
It’s like 4+ hour ride for me to get anywhere I can go even a little off-road. No reason to own anything other than a street bike where I live.
Great looking bike, I had a WR400F i miss TONS!
I had a baby ADV. Still never been on dirt, or even gravel
Not into it. I own a XR650L... and it has sat for months. With a 1002 miles on it, it sits. I hope that this is not the direction of the channel. I have no interest in ADV bikes.
What is this distinction between ADV and dualsport? It sounds like marketing bumpf to me.
Are you going to tell me that ADV are larger capacity for something? So a DR800 or XLV750 back in the day was one or the other?
What is the difference between the XR250, the XL600, & NX650 I owned? What is the difference between the latter two? Are all dualsport? I say the difference is in engine capacity and internal gearing, but mostly it is marketing.
That little thing is not an adventure bike - and you were worn out by balancing a big boy on a microscopic motorcycle, with your knees on the handlebars.
Also that trail is a maintenance and inspection road for power lines.
That clutched in roll down the slightly rocky road was painful... I don't think I've ever seen a person "coast" a bike down a slow little path before now 😅
At the very least, engine braking would've been nice.
Edit: wait, did you just refer to the DRZ400(SM?) as an "Adventure Bike"(ADV)? Lol.... that's a dual sport bike, they make ADVs that small, but that's not one of them.
Thanks for sharing I’m going to go check that spot out today for sure! Got my dual sport few months ago 🤘
I guess that little front wheel is why than rocky bit stopped you dead. And nearly made you drop the drz
I love my Scrambler 1200xe, it is a little big, but with a better than stock tire, it can go a lot of places and its not to heavy to get it turned around on the hills or in the mud.
Love me an adv, klr 650 does everything I need it to for cheap
Bingo
You can take it places, if you're a masochist, you can do it.