We Couldn't Beat This Halo LASO Level (LASO Master Achievement)
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- We jumped right into Halo 2 LASO and decided that we are gonna get every single Achievement in the Master Chief Collection by the time Halo Infinite releases. This includes beating Halo 2 LASO and getting the LASO Master Achievement which means we have to beat Halo CE LASO, Halo 3 LASO and Halo 4 LASO as well.
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the biggest crime is completing all games on laso and receiving a measly 50 gamerscore for it
Halo games are always cheapskates about Gamerscore. Oh, you killed two players with a laser, who lined up perfectly, in free-for-all, on one of the few maps that have a laser? 5G for you.
And you can get three times the amount for beating the first episode of the original DooM on ANY difficulty
It’s not about the money……it’s about sending a message
@@rocket-propelledgecko4976 eh it might just be because mcc is so bloated with achievements already that giving them out would upset someone somewhere, like completing reach on legendary on the 360 gives me 150 gamerscore but completing all 4 of the original campaigns gives you something like 50 on the mcc
Maybe it's worth less on the 360
I cant imagine how miserable it would feel to do LASO only for it to not register
Yeah it would be crushing, but to see it pop after doing legendary solo would make me jump for joy.
@@zanesnep Its an actual bug.... It effects people, not everyone, but others. Read some forums on it if you must.
I would snap my neck and scream
It happened to me in halo2 sometime ago so I gotta run it again, but since I like a challenge and halo 2 I'll doing it again
Proof that gamers are the most oppressed minority
the best part about playing laso yourself, it actually gives checkpoints so if your ever tired of playing you can just come back later and do it
Yeah, solo and coop both have their weak and advantages.
Solo advantage is that if you get tired, you can come back later while coop ensured you don't get thrown back to the beggining of the level, not to mention doble the ammo and firepower.
but if u die it restarts the mission
@@BEEFYP.I.M.P. You can abuse restarting checkpoints when you die before it loads to the beginning in solo. It's a way of keeping your sanity intact.
@@albertwesker3299 Reminds me of the restart trick on ultra nightmare in doom eternal.
@@shylogik It basically is. Makes them actually bearable, if it is a bit cheesy abusing it.
Noticed in the CE gameplay that yous guys aren't backpack reloading. Double tap reload then switch weapon quickly. After a a few seconds switch back to the desired weapon. Real life saver 🙌
Backpack reloading appeared to be the absolute last of their worries, looking at most of their deaths in the gameplay it looked like most of the time they were struggling to simply turn around and run away from grenades. Getting caught on things like walls and rocks that they would have been able to avoid if they had the aim sensitivity to turn around, observe, and navigate around...Must be absolutely agonising to play LASO on a controller.
@@Hadgerz I agree with what you are saying buddy but doing them small things that make all the difference doing LASO
@@Hadgerz to be honest I kinda disagree at least with the sensitivity thing your talking about regarding controllers, normally I run on 2 or 3 sensitivity and if I try to use mouse and keyboard I get destroyed, whether it’s Multiplayer or campaign I rock it even against PC players I tend to do better. I also didn’t exactly struggle much when i completed POA in CE by myself, tho it did take me 6 hours and getting a second controller a hour in. However soon as I got to the next one Halo... well unfortunately it’s virtually impossible by yourself. Because of the banshees, even if you manage to kill one you die to the other, you also can’t dodge them enough to survive until your away from them.
So yeah sensitivity is not really the problem, sometimes you just do get caught on stuff, or other times your panic makes you forget your gamer sense and cause you to make a wrong call.
@@Hadgerz bits definitely not sensitivity, most pro players play on a sensitivity between 3-5 and they do fine. It's just spacial awareness
@FatedAwakening tried that, unfortunately due to the boom skull it makes it virtually impossible for myself to do that. So yeah, while others have like in the guide by Halo completionist, I tried a good hour of time on that area and gave up after a additional 4 hours.
The worst part is, to truly get every mcc achievement you must do it again in the playlist if you don't do it like that normally.
I did that with Halo: Reach. I'm fucking thankful I found that out with Reach and not the other Halo games.
What's the difference?
@@gabrielldecastro8556 You have to select the playlist unless you make all the correct inputs yourself for the skulls. You risk not having it register if you don't select the playlist.
You can't get the LASO achievement without playing it in the playlist I'm pretty sure but after you complete LASO on a game you don't have to do it ever again (unless you did co-op LASO in ODST and want to get the SLASO achievement)
I’m not done with the video but from your comment I’m assuming my suspicions that he made the mistake of not doing the playlist is what happened
*PLAYER:* I just LASOd Halo 2, surely CE would be easier.
*CE SKULLS:* 😂
*CE PHYSICS:* 🤣
*BOTH:* Beat up player laughing.
Bro, Halo CE was a breeze compared to H2.
@@ZackAschliman bro 2 x explosion radius and grunts exploding on death and less mass on everything is just pain
And that’s just three of the skulls
@@EndoClaw grunts exploding made it easy to take out enemies. It was difficult no doubt but I think H2 was MUCH harder.
Bro the Foreign skull alone is the single most frustrating thing, like if they put it in Halo 2, it would make LASO litteraly impossible because you wouldn't be able to do newb combos.
I would say the level Truth and Wreckt edges out CE a little more than 2. Both lasos are so hard it’s honestly barely noticeable but my experience on TaR made CE just a tad more hellish.
Got 7000/7000 awhile ago. I feel your pain. I've gotten everything except Halo Wars series and the arcade games (and I still will before Infinite) but I even had to take a break after that LASO grind.
Im at 680/700. I really only have the H2A multiplayer achievements and the general multiplayer achievements to finish but they’re just annoying to grind out. I do not want to get 100 splatters and 100 environmental kills lmao.
@@ColorColours I just got 700 like two days ago or something. Best way to get splatters (you probably already know this) is with the giant ice things on lockout. It's good because it simultaneously does environmental kills. But yeah, the grind is real.
@Sam Beckett yeah they’re really tiring. Luckily most of the speed runs just unlocked by themselves when my homies and I were playing through 3, ODST, reach, and 4. I only had to do CE and 2 solo which sucked lmao.
@@ColorColours you nailed it. The speed running ones (at least for H3 on) are a freaking breeze in co-op. And Honestly CE is not bad either. H2 is the problem. Either you save/quit until you beg for death, or you find a friend, make a shared spreadsheet, find guides, and get creative with the random H2 skulls.
Same I felt pretty burnt out after 700/700
“Sounds like a simple plan but it never goes to plan.” LASO in a nutshell.
@Mr America Laso achievement doesn't care
@Mr America SLASO: Solo legendary all skulls on
CLASO: coop legendary all skulls on
As soon as I saw this title, I knew it had to be Truth and Reconciliation. Your experience almost exactly mirrors mine. People who say gravemind is the hardest LASO level have never played this one. I did the same thing where I had to restart after the lift because I didn’t have enough ammo, and the second time I got there, I waited for everyone to spawn in and had to reset for hours trying to get my 1 remaining grenade to set off a good chain reaction. I finally beat it when the chain reaction killed literally everyone except the gold elites, and I was able to use the camo to take out the rest.
Truth and rec was indeed one of the hardest levels for laso. But if it wasn't for prison skip gravemind would be legit impossible
I found gravemind more difficult than truth and rec. And ive done it all, although im much more familiar abd comfortable with ce
I have every achievement in Halo MCC. I did every single LASO campaign solo. Truth and Reconciliation was ridiculously difficult. I still think Gravemind LASO is harder. I had to reset Truth and Reconciliation several times, but I also had to reset Gravemind 3 or 4 times. Both of those levels are among the hardest things I've ever done in any game though.
I personally found T&R to be extremely time consuming during the hangar part (and the part getting Keyes to not supercombine himself), but overall had a more difficult and time consuming experience with Gravemind since it had more phases that totalled up to be harder. But it's entirely subjective.
i have to disagree there library was the worst
Major tip that helped me beat this level! When playing coop you both start with 64 rounds in the sniper. The issue is that you can’t ever get back to 64 rounds because they most u can carry after you shoot is 24. .. what you need to do is have one person never use the sniper for the first part of the mission. Have one person use the sniper till you get to the ship and the other person never shoots or shoots very little . Once in the ship you will have 1 player with 64 rounds and the other will have 24. This will give u much more ammo.
Also when you reload the sniper, pick up a weapon half-way through the reload animation, the weapon will reload itself on the floor (you'll hear the reload sound playing) then pick it up again and the magazine will be replenished without the ammo count being lowered. You basically get infinite ammo for it.
@@NKWittmann you can’t do that in laso because of the foreign skull. There are only two human weapons in truth and reconciliation and that is the assault rifle and sniper
oh boy cant wait until they get to Two Betrayals if they thought Truth and Reconciliation was tedious
😂
Honestly two betrayals isnt too bad difficulty wise if you do it right, its just LONG and a huge test of patience
@@apxclan13 but when set off the 2nd pylon and it makes you have no shield and then the flood come in from every hole with shottys and rockets... gotta be fast to freeze them in a loading zone
TB is hard but in my opinion it's actually fun after doing The Library.
@@ddiablolll i just followed silvers guide and for that room I just blocked the door with a banshee and the flood couldnt get in lol
I did LASO halo 3 single player, finished it a couple of days ago took me 63h and that’s with speed run guided and walkthroughs. It was very.... very hard! So proud of the achievement.
Halo 3 laso is pretty easy though lmao. Took me less than a day.
Try Halo 2 laso next :)
@@KiyaWarrior for normal people it isn’t 😂
@@KiyaWarrior also of it took you a day then you must have done it before and must be a decent speed runner. I don’t have a whole day to spend on a game, I’ll get round to the others when I have the time. Still, a 0.3% achievement.
@@KiyaWarrior Its genuinely incredible just how easy it is to not be obnoxious
Try humility next :)
@@ccriztoff I don’t know what that means but I’ll take it as a compliment 😂
I take that as a challenge!
Me watching this when I can't even do easy: "Hmmm that doesn't look *that* hard"
@Mr America you can look up his account and he has the achievement
This level is extremely brutal, you have to basically point-blank every elite in the level with the sniper rifle, it makes you practice your shots a lot to get really better at the game
@Thelonelygamer43 Um that may have been a joke, considering I acc have beat reach at heroic difficulty. Just maybe.
Kaboom + Grunt funeral + Sputnik alone was a test of patience. I had a hard enough of a time with it on heroic. I feel for you guys lmao
*laso, not lmao :P
@@ecoop20 ???
@@gnuzwo1lk909 just making a joke based on the two different acronyms. Forgive me, I'm not very funny lol
@@ecoop20 nah its okay
Not all bad. You can grenade jump (if you aren't turned into a tomato during the explosion)
To all those people that have complete the laso master achievement you're a legend
Edit: ok uhh thank you this is my most liked comment haha uhmm ya
Thanks buddy!
Thanks
Thank you!
You're *
Much appreciated.
Just finished halo 3 laso solo, going for the rest. Goodbye sanity.
Me too. Only have Reach, 4 and 5 left
H3 LASO is the most boring. No fun skips, no interesting despawns, just boring grind, H4 and Reach are probably the most fun LASO in terms of breaking the game
Well that's food to hear. H3 was definitely less fun/exciting than CE and 2, so looking forward to more skips and despawns
Reach is the biggest cakewalk. You already got the hard stuff done lol. Good luck man.
"sort of feels like something he should have to prove.....when he says it"
I remember playing Halo 2 with a friend and figuring out the banshee trick. We thought we were the shit for "discovering" that. Only to find out years later we weren't special
Well it's still rad to find tricks on your own!
We found out our selves too, but for how easy it was we never thought it was that special.
You are special in your own way.
I'm assuming a ton of folks figured it out when they realized they needed all the help they could get to take out Tartarus on Legendary.
Truth and Reconciliation took me soooo long to beat on LASO, and even so, I only managed to do so because the game, after like 6 hours in that hangar, decided to open the path to the next section without me killing everyone there, for whatever reason. And after that it felt like a breeze in comparison to that section
Mcc had mercy on you lmao
I was lucky enough to survive an explosion that launched me to the top level of the hanger and I skipped a big portion
The overshield makes you invincible during the time it takes to charge it while you pick it up, kill the marines close to it, then throw a grenade, pick it up, the marines' grenades will explode and you'll be thrown at the upper level. You can do it too by killing your coop buddy.
Omg if I did LASO and didn't get the achievement I would go crazy.
When it comes to two betrayals, I will be praying for you
Dude, no. The Library.
@@IaeyanElyuex well yes that one will be bad too but not as bad because it is mostly close range combat which gives them an advantage because of how halo feels black eye works, but two betrayals is much more explosive
I'm atheist and I'm gonna be praying for them too LASO is hell
T&R, library and two betrayals are the worst
You should make a covenant supply case tier list, its those purple things in all the halo games that have weapons in them
Purple things with weapons in them....hmm sounds like a Dild-
@@coltforceplayz5285 noooooo
@@noblenormie1179 heheh
My buddy’s first time playing through the halo campaigns was literally him lasoing them with me lmaooo so now he can tell everyone he played Laso as his first play through
I am a god
Same thing for my buddy who I did them with lol , only for ce and 2 though
Just getting through the Wraith bay on legendary alone is a tall order. I can't imagine trying to bludgeon my way through during a LASO run. Props to you guys.
Just become Master Chief in real life.
Yeah problem solved
It's so easy lol
Would anyone actually sign up for the Spartan II program? I realize it isn’t exactly a thing anyone signs up for but would anyone sign up if they could
@@rookie1045 i would if i didnt turn out messed up
@@misternasty2216 wdym
I would like to remind you: 343 fucked up LASO. The weekly challenges in Reach would occasionally have a LASO challenge and DID NOT include the blind skull. Hardly anyone remembers this.
Silver skulls were never meant to add challenge, that's why they were silver, non-scoring skulls.
The very first one had blind.
I Remember doing this, horror, absolute horror
I managed to grind through all the games LASO playlists thanks to all the time the lock-downs have given me.
Patience, perserverance and all the guides. You guys got this!
I just finished unlocking all 700 achievements in MCC. For the longest time I had about 8 or 8 achievements left that I just considered impossible and that have 692/700 was close enough. I recently beat every game on LASO and got all the speed run achievements unlocked. By far the biggest achievement hunt I’ve ever spent on a single game. So happy to finally have them all. Can play Infinite in peace now lol
I know you guys can do it. I recently did the first 3 games on legendary solo, I can only imagine how hard it is on LASO. But yeah I definitely recommend watching Hockiebird's legendary guides for all 3 games
the rest of ce (especially 343 guilty spark) were a breezer after truth and rec on solo legendary.
@@Tannerj50 absolutely
If you're just doing these things for the love of the game, the challenge (without the pressure of time mattering) and the sense of accomplishment, it's really just repetition and experimentation until you learn the programs and discover the right order of operations. Few and far between are the levels that don't allow us to take our time
@@bionicca yep, after you get stuck long enough on one part you begin to memorize the spawn locations and behavior patterns until you eventually beat it
Oh boi this level. Good luck with shielding Keyes. That part was an absolute nightmare for me.
[Learns about Halo 2 LASO]
Me: "If you came to hear me beg, you will be disappointed."
[Sometimes you don't get the achievement, and also have to play through legendary solo]
Me: *Agonized screams*
Saying this before I watch and I might be right. Let me guess, truth and reconciliation. Sincerely I gave up cause after dozens of hours I could not beat it. Halo Reach wasn't too bad. Pillar of Autumn not too bad. Halo was hard. Truth and Rec is impossible.
You can do it! Took 5 hrs for me and my buddies run (and it took us 4 separate attempts) but you have to save every sniper bullet possible.
@@briannorris5024 took me and a friend 6 hours across 2 attempts, that level is hell
heck, that level stinks even if all your trying to do is play through on legendary with no deaths. even heroic!
As soon as you said Combat Evolved I had a feeling it would be Truth and Reconciliation. Oh my god, just even playing that level on Solo Legendary drove up the fucking wall. Dude, fuck that level so hard. I can't even imagine it with LASO. 😭 Respect guys, respect.
I remember beating truth and reconciliation on legendary and that was hard asf I can only imagine how hard also is
Truth in shrek affiliation... that's what I call it you ain't getting into shrek's swamp xD
Complete every SLASO campaign took me two months, but is worth it
16:00
Master chief:
“Our job as solders is to protect humanity at what ever the cost”
*Proceeds to kill all the marines*
Played LASO so much the HUD became a nuisance in other game modes.
I know a trick for that room where you were stuck for co-op.
When you enter the room, if you go to the right there is a closed door where enemies spawn, you have to kill them or run past them and run all the way to the end of that hallway. There is another closed door that makes all the enemies de-aggro when both players touch it (maybe smack it to be sure). Once that happens one players stays inside the room and the other runs to assassinate an enemy and run back to the room. Repeat untill everything is dead.
Make sure that one player stays close to the door because you can't open it from the outside.
PD: Save 2 sniper shots for the hunters.
31:52 Am I going crazy? My memories are trying to tell me that I routinely skipped most of that fight when I used to play, something about making it up the hallway closest to the hunter door and leaving this whole encounter behind.
Yeah, same. I remember doing that as well
As someone who has the LASO Master Achievement, I can say, that Truth and Reconciliation is BY FAR THE HARDEST Halo Laso Level. However, most of the Halo games/levels are easier SOLO since you only have to worry about yourself. You can just use the Save/Quit trick to avoid the Iron Skull
I still need to try it, but I'm just lazy to watch videos to learn on what to do
You revived your channel after your complete and utter failure of an infinite video.
(Completely joking) LOVE YOU GUYS. You need to do a new video of Garish Goblins WR CE run. I think it was 1:06. PEACE
So I’m going to try these too, but my plan to beat the laso campaigns is to;
1)Beat the campaign on normal
2)beat that campaigns whole playlist
3)beat campaign on heroic then legendary
4)SLASO(I have no friends)
That's definitely a good practice plan for laso
My first LASO was CE. Completing Reach and ODST after that was almost a piece of cake compared to that.
A big tip for the gold elites with swords on the inside portion of truth and reconciliation. when you make it into the hallway at the beginning and do the corner trick. If you are playing with a friend, get close to the door to open it. Have one agro onto you and when you run back have your friend hide on the other side of the hallway where the door doesn't open and when you run back go the opposite way and have your friend melee the elite in the back. That was the best way we found to do it without using all your sniper ammo.
I was wondering when you guys would upload a new LASO video :D
Me and my sister took 8 hours and 52 minutes to beat Truth and Reconciliation on LASO, we didn't do the grenade jump as we are terrible at it so we went through the level at that part where you got stuck RocketSloth and just kept playing through until we got good RNG and finished out the mission. This took us longer to complete than Gravemind and there were several times we almost gave up. We too also had to redo the mission because we were not prepared with the lack of ammo upon boarding the ship(then at some point trying to escape the room my game crashed). I wish you the best of luck at your next attempt, but I I definitely agree, it's more difficult than Gravemind
Nice
I’m happy with my MCC game completion.
Me and my friend tried CE LASO back on xbox and got stuck on that Wraith bay as well. We took a break and I moved over to PC, with my friend following a while after. After a year or so of dreading it, we replayed all of CE LASO up to that point again, and with the knowledge of conserving ammo, we did it first try on PC. (We even fucked up and used the active camo early) but I nailed the grenade jump and we even accidentally did a glitch that causes the level to end early.
I am glad to hear that Truth and Reconciliation is so hard for you guys after beating Halo 2 LASO. I kept hearing that Halo 2 was the worst LASO, and was starting to think after CE, we would get stuck on it. So that gives me a bit of hope lol.
I never had any issue getting the spectre into the room.
Me neither it was EZ 😎😎
@@IsmashedtoRedbone I just found as long as the spectre goes slowly over the edge, there’s no problem.
Now my only problem was getting nuked by the brutes after I do enough damage to tarterous.
I found a pretty good strat for the Tartarus fight. Stay on the upper level, and grab 2 brute plasma rifles. Every now and then, elites and brutes will show up. The elites should focus the brutes. Tartarus will stand next to the grav lift, not moving, just staring at you. Let Johnson take his shields down, and shoot him through the hole. He eventually will come up, and all you have to do is either wait for him to go back down, or go down and lure him, then go back up. It’s a simple enough rinse and repeat strat, and the dupe Johnson glitch helps a lot
they goin x games mode, compared to them the covenant built like a bottle of extra virgin olive oil
I completely feel your pain! Your experience with LASO is literally the exact same as mine. Everyone assumes Gravemind is the most difficult, but Truth and Reconciliation on LASO is by far the most difficult full stop! My brother and I keep getting to the part you are up to and always take the big L because we spend so many mentally draining hours on the first parts of the mission (especially that god damn first room in the ship). We can't do that grenade jump either, and like you, we are so done with the level by that point, it is a challenge to mentally keep going. Regardless, let's both push on and get this achievement out of the way before Halo Infinite is released!
Anyone else feel a little dissapointed that Halo 2's LASO Playlist doesn't actually have ALL SKULLS ON?
Like even disregarding the Hunter Skull that was locked behind that movie several beneficial skulls (like the scarab skull) aren't used.
Like, is it really LASO then?
It should at least have envy imo since the real og halo 2 had that as one of the skills
The game would be an absolute breeze with Scarab on which defeats the purpose of the challenge.
Took us 17 hours to beat Truth and reconciliation. 4 + hours alone for the check point once you enter the ship. After hearing this, I feel there’s hope beating halo 2 on laso. Only one left to get LASO master.
Really wish you could save the game and come back later when playing co-op...
I felt real pain at 20:04 after I saw the second Spartan run toward the grenade
It's crazy, I have all LASO achievements but I'm struggling with Halo 2 under 3 hours.
Doing the record speedrun tricks are what you need to do it. And even then its hard as shit
I think they mentioned it's one of the rarest achievements.
Hey, in case you dont know it, there is an easy way to get these. If as soon as you die you press Start > Save and quit and continue the campaign, your time goes back to the time you got the last checkpoint. Doing this makes it waaay easier to get the achievement. Some games would require you to force close the game, but in 2 you can just save and quit. Good luck!
Nice job completing Halo 2 LASO. I'm working on Halo CE LASO with my friend and all I can say is, have fun on The Library. We've been stuck there for a while. Motivation dropped to 0 when a Flood that died glitched my friend through the floor and crashed his game.
If there is a LASO for reach, Lone Wolf (I think thats what Halo Reachs Final Levell is Called) Is by far the easiest
Noooo ODST is the easiest. There's a playlist for just the missions and non of the night exploration, and the second mission you can just drive past everything. There are only a couple tricky spots near the end, but most of it is super easy. Reach is significantly more difficult just considering that plasma pistol doesn't completely disable shields and elites have insane parkour moves, that alone makes it much more difficult. Brutes are much more manageable
@@SuperGoose42 nah, he’s saying Lone Wolf is the easiest mission to complete LASO cause, ya know.. all you have to do is die and it ends.. lol.
Halo 2 coop legendary alone brought me to my damn knees. Cant imagine that hellhole on LASO. Took us 4 hours to kill regret. im amazed we killed tartarus in under 2
*this is the hardest level* two betrayals: did you call me?
Good on you guys for pushing through no matter how many irreplaceable sniper shots you missed... And missed again... And again.
Also you can melee a couple extra enemies from behind before stealth wears off if you don't stop to admire the kill each time, CE doesn't lock the melee animation to the target. You can do a sort of "drive-by" assassination and be several steps from the elite before his grenades even drop to the floor.
Blackeye skull exploit on the hunters was a nice touch but it hurt my chest watching you guys try to avoid their melees in every direction except the one direction that's the easiest to avoid (left side-step), as long as there's one aggroed to each person you don't have to worry about the second one blasting you as you seamlessly step around the one trying to melee you. Though it I'm sure it was refreshing to have a skull that hampers you the whole time finally give back lol. GL next
I don't know of it's any different on pc but instead of starting the mission over everyday couldn't yall both get to a safe spot pause it and take a break, then come back the next day. Forgive me if I missed something obvious but that seems smarter than restarting every time yall try to play
As someone who's beaten all LASO alone and Truth and Reconciliation with no deaths, there is hope. The grenade jump and second camo use doesn't sound like it would help much. Just memorize every ammo location and only snipe elites and jackals. You have two overfilled snipers starting out. Don't grab a clip until you have room for the full clip. You'll have enough ammo, even though it feels really tight.
I made the mistake of not finding the ammo in the room with the inactive wraiths, forcing me to go into the hanger with literally nothing. But I succeeded. Oh, also remember the game spawns enemies behind you, so make sure you go back and get behind them. What I would do for a magnum pistol.
I cringed every time I saw you wasting sniper ammo on grunts😂
Don't underestimate grunts on LASO. They stick you in an instant with their nades.
@@darealshinji if you're trying to keep the marines alive, yes the grunts and their grenades are absolute hell
20:52 in and I cant wait for two betrayals and the maw
It makes me feel better watching this that someone else was able it go through this and document it just to show the torture, if only you could show the hours and hours of failing single checkpoints and constant deaths to chain reactions.
T and R drove me absolutely fucking insane. It took 2 and a half hours to beat on legendary. There really isn't even a section of that level where you can say "Well at least the hard part is over" cause there's always some bullshit all the way up to the very end
Sheesh. And I thought just doing Pillar of Autumn LASO was infuriating enough.
Took me and my bud 2 days to beat truth and reconciliation. We did the hide in a corner trick to spawn everyone at once in the ship and picked everyone off carefully from there, also watch your sniper ammo and try to save as much as possible cause you spawn with loads more than capacity. But once you get through that level it's mostly smooth sailing from there, While library is hard you can take as slow a pace you want and it's more a matter of time.
Edit after watching the video you guys did great, if there's any advice I could give it's try as much as possible to kill all grunts with the Ar up to the point of entering the ship, because if even one player in coop is still in the over amount of sniper ammo you get at the start at that point you have a lot more wiggle room for who to snipe and can use it more freely, also as with that grenade jump, it is hard but you can be a bit delayed with the second grenade throw against the wall and still make it, or as I found in coop you can have your partner throw at one grenade spot and you the other. Oh and final tip when you rescue Key's he only follows one player at a time so if he's dying to grenade grunt explosions have the player he's following hang slightly further back. Sorry for the essay, I just really wanna help as someone else who had trouble with this level. Hope it helps 🙏
16:05 that one marine is like “my grandfather actually gave me this gun I take pride in i- AEUGH” meanwhile chief has just killed a fellow comrade for his gun
truth and reconciliation is singlehandedly the level that stoped my mcc laso run.
that level solo is a pure nightmare, as death does not just put you in the last checkpoint, it restarts the level. when i finally found someone better than me in halo to help me, we still failed over and over, running out of time and into sheduling issues.
i really wanted to do the mcc laso playlists before infinite comes out, but now i have a trauma of that level.
yo i know this is past now, but hunters are a saving grace in CE. you can just spin around them constantly punching them in the back, and they turn slower than you move so you can constantly just hit them to death while they pose no threat
For the hangar there is a type of jump speedrunners use with the overshield where they take advantage of the fact that the overshield gives temporary invincibility for the first couple of seconds to survive a large grenade jump up to the top level. It involves very careful grenade placements and will probably require a bit of practice to get right but it could be the best option for you to beat the hangar area
I find it useful to pick up tricks like this from speedrunners as it helps with difficult parts and they often discover some pretty good techniques that are useful in playing in general.
Also backpack reloading is a really useful skill you should pick up. When you need to reload double press the reload key/button and switch to your other weapon. Whilst your second weapon is out your first one still reloads. Only works on CE as it's a bit of a developer oversight.
Yeah, T&R is honestly the toughest CE LASO, at least on co-op. Took me and my friend 3 hours to do it. Our biggest hurdle was the second hanger room with the Wraith it in, cause we didn't have camo, so we just had to find a way to open the hanger doors, hope we could kill the elite with a lucky Grunt explosion, and eventually we got lucky!
We were able to do the grenade jump, and it's totally worth it because not only does it skip all the floors in that big hanger, but skips a bit at the end after saving Keyes. From a LASO Master, you can do it!
Oh man, I feel this pain on a deep, deep level. I was going through LASO solo, and that lift room with the gold elites absolutely destroyed me, I spent a solid week trying to get through that before finally giving up. Kudos to you guys for getting through it.
people had always said that The Library was the hardest part of Halo CE, and I've always strongly disagreed (with the right despawns and memorization it's honestly fun). Truth and Reconciliation has always been the most exhausting level of the game, and even on Heroic it's such a pain. hope yall get through it cus I'd love to see how the rest of CE plays out on LASO.
When I was doing Halo CE LASO, I did it solo and my aim was to do two missions a day. Then, I got to T&R…. by far the hardest thing I have ever done in Halo, bar none. I can’t even express how punishing and just brutal this level is on LASO. It took me two days of constantly playing to finally get it down. It’s a mixture of luck, perfecting speed running tactics, and ammo preservation (as you said). The Belly of the Beast is by far the hardest section. Thankfully, the grenade jumps in the hanger actually cause the mission to end sooner because you don’t need to return to the hanger with Keyes.
If you’re really feeling ballsy, there’s actually a massive skip you can perform to beat most of this level with relative ease. The trick is really hard to pull off and takes tons of practice, but it comes at the cost that it can only be done solo. It’s called the Wraith Bump skip where you throw 4-5 grenades at the wraith to destroy it and basically push yourself into the geometry of the defunct vehicle. In doing so, you can force yourself out of bounds and perform a series of intricate jumps to skip to near the end of the mission. But of course, if you want to do an inbounds LASO run, then this trick is obviously off limits.
I've done all 6 of the games in MCC on LASO. Halo 2 was the hardest, with Gravemind being the most difficult mission, but the pure RNG of the lift room in T&R is the most difficult fire fight IMO.
Heres some tips for you, Ive done the level a lot as I found it the 2nd hardest level to Library, with Two Betrayals being the 3rd hardest.
The AR is completely invaluable. Use it to kill all the grunts in short controlled bursts as the Eye Patch skull makes the AR deadly but you need to control your shots. Dont use any sniper ammo on anything but an Elite or a clear Grunt who can blow up multiple enemies.
When you get to the camo area, go left. Kill the elite and the 2 jackals. Look to the back left wall, kill the elite then the grunt on the turret. This gives you the left half of the map. Take the camo and run to the elites in the corridor. 2nd player runs back to the previous area by the ammo pile and sits on the rock looking at the exit as all the enemies will come for you through the narrow cliffside. Player 1 with the camo kills the 2 elites in the "corridor", then the jackals and 1 elite in the next area which can give a checkpoint. Ignore the grunts and run back to the previous area to catch up with player 2 and kill all the enemies between you.
At the lift area, the next wave will appear when 1 or no enemies remain in the immediate area. Stay back by the rock for every wave and wait for the enemies to gather, one well timed grunt kill will eliminate all the enemies. Save at least 4 grenades between you for inside the ship. Punch any jackals for shields if you can. When the hunters come, snipe them or melee them. Melee was best for me when I started TaR on laso as it saved ammo but now I can always go into the ship full ammo.
When inside the ship, go straight to the point you eventually did in this video. In the hallway. Make sure you have at least 4 grenades between you at this point. Use the grenades to launch into the hangar room and try and beat my best score of 19 killionaires. The grunt funeral skull and boom skull are golden, use them as much as you can. The elites will try and rush you if you come too close to the room, try and lure 1 at a time. 4 accurate sniper shots will kill.
Then kill the hunters
Take the camo and run to the next area, grab all the ammo by the bottom of the stairway you would normally take down, kill the elites and jackals and wait by the exit doors. Enemies will spawn through any random 5 doors. You need to get lucky and get a door on the exit side. Ru inside punching any enemy infront of you for shields and escape down the hallway.
Kill the elites and its friends, then head to the checkpoint and teleport. The big hangar.
When entering the hangar, kill the elite on top of the platform and then run to the back right corner grabbing any ammo along the way. If you wish to grenade jump, go ahead Ill applaud you if you can pull it off. If you cant, stay in the back right corner, use the boxes and grenade cover and peek around them to kill grunts and elites. After a couple waves some grunts and/or jackals will spawn behind you in the locked door, go inside there to have amazing cover. Kill more enemies being very careful of exposure. 2 hunters will spawn. You are by their main spawn, so they will spawn on the left side of the map. 1 Snipe and theyre down. After the hunters you have another wave and then the room is clear.
Grab any ammo you can get from that room and take the overshield if you hadnt already. Heading into the corridors youll find grunts and elites, using the AR all level on grunts you will easily become accurate on taking these guys down and the boom skull clears the way for you. At the very top of these corridors are two camoed elites and some infantry. Try and take the elites out as they will retreat to the next area if you dont kill them. Slowly come out of the corridor taking sniper shots on jackals and elites (if you have the ammo to spare) and pick your way to the next doors. Grunts make the next corridors easy again, and head up to the top level. Once there, kill the elite and grunts nearby and have 1 player stay by the entry door to the top level, and the other player moves up toward the exit. Some jackals and grunts spawn ahead of you so move back and snipe from distance. Then when 1 player is at the exit player 2 darts for the exit. You have either successfully despawned some enemies or are now running away from them as they spawn behind you.
The final stretch for Keyes. Use the AR and melees to clear through the corridors until you come to what looks like the covenant bridge. To the left of this area is another stockpile of ammo and health. Use health only if you absolutely need it. Go into the room and try and snipe the red elites together. Co sniping on red elites usually means they always die and dont get away. When the gold elite rushes, focus all attention to it and back out into the corridors, should be an easy kill. Kill the remaining enemies in the room and then kill the grunts that appear through the door right of the bridge controls and Go into the 1st jail cell area. unlock the doors and take the ammo and health inside. Take the camo and tun to the final area and assasinate the 2 jackals outside; the gold elite and his 2 camo elites in either side of the room and run out. Both players then ise AR to kill the grunts. Open the locks and Keyes is free.
As soon as you approach the door to leave 2 camo elites will run in, try and predict their path after some trial and error and take them out as they come inside, kill the 2 jackals outside, grab ammo from the piles and health if desperate. This is the last health pack of the level. Moving up you have a few elites with squads in corridors. Keyes will always die. Keyes also completely follows one player, usually player 2. And this gives the opportunity for the remaining player to clear the corridors ahead with no threat of Keyes dying. Use this tactic to the end of the level.
Hope this helps,
IXI Traumatised
That wraith section I’d just lob grenades at grunts and pray for a chain reaction that would kill everything
They messed up with the specter at least in the clip they took. Running at the front of the specter as it slowly slips will stall it and give a more consistent success rate. I was able to solo Laso it and got it to work my first try.
I've been saying truth and reconciliation is the hardest for years, but I get called an idiot "because halo 2 is the hardest halo"
Honestly same. Halo 2 is the hardest if you haven't played it forever, I think CE has the hardest (and sometimes most bullshit) level design. Truth and rec, the library, and especially Two Betrayals (worst goddamn halo level period imo), all super brutal on laso
This level was a straight crime when I had to solo it, think I hit 4 hours... never again. Between the first part on the ship and the grenade jump I almost went insane.
As someone who has SLASO'd all the Halo's bar Halo 4, which is still in progress, all I can say is, trust in Silver. Silver is wise ;) Also the achievement not popping sometimes only requires you to wait 24 hours and then play any campaign mission, I've had that before. So try that before slogging through Legendary in full. Best of luck!
If you guys are still stuck on TnR there is an alternate jump you can do only in coop to skip the big hanger area. When you go in the door to the hanger me and a friend cleared out the first section and no more enemies spawned. If you don't cross the divide in the center no more enemies will spawn. On the side of the hanger where you came in at, near the flooring for the next levelthere is a small wall you can jump on and a little cut out in said wall you can buddy jump off of to get to the next level of the hanger and skip it. It may not look like you can go in it but it's ghost covering and you can both fit in it. It has been a while since I've done it so I don't remember if you need to nade jump or not, but if you can do it without it then the rest of the level should be a breeze
My wife and beat CE on LASO together. 9 levels took between one and four hours… T&R took SIX F-ING MONTHS
I’m gonna edit where I can give some advice: In the area where you split up, if Luke goes back to the previous ammo cache while you move forwards, the enemies in the camp area will all despawn and save you a ton of ammo.
Also: backpack reload and quick reload your sniper.
Went to see if I’d commented on your Halo 2 video from 8 months ago: “Can’t wait for the CE video. Have fun in T&R”. Checks out.
16:05 you killed Vic, you monster!😁
Oh wait, wasn't Vic a computer... who literally wanted to die...? Ok you're cool.
At least you could get it, me and a friend are doing co-op of all the games, and I've done a good amount of solo campaigns and MCC just won't recognize either of us have completed a single level, no matter how it's done/started, no matter how many times we do it.
Takes me back, I did all the LASO campaigns solo. H2 was by far the hardest, the worst part solo is if you die the mission restarts but you can cheese it by quickly saving and quitting then reload the save. But back then the MCC was a buggy mess so the load times were about 2 minutes to get back that doesn't include all the crashes, so 10 deaths equal 20 minutes of waiting.
I got to gravemind and got past the prison section which was the worst part! Then 343 as an apology for the troubled launch released ODST as a free update. I downloaded the update and guess what......It wiped my entire LASO save file. I had to do it all again
I believe in you guys! I've not done laso but have done solo ledge and yeah Tru Recon is carcinogenic. Good luck with the Captain too! But like you guys stated, adapting to halo 1 is where the difficulty lies and after the mission Halo this one is the toughest i think. Flood dont really get any more dangerous. So yeah, keep up the good work fellas, keen to see the next update!
my buddy and i had an issue with truth and rec as well, but, grenades, and saving the active camo made life a lot easier.
in the hangar there is a triple grenade jump you can do, to get to the top floor (but you have to time when to pick up the overshield since you take no damage when its charging)
When I did CE solo legendary, Truth and Reconciliation was so hard I rage quit twice. I can't imagine laso
My god - I did CE LASO solo with no guides - and I forgot how fucking miserably hard it was at times, this brought it all back, I forecer hate Truth and reconciliation now lol
y'all are gonna love the library and two betrayals
You can stand next to a hunter and "dance" with him in a circle like motion. He cant punch you but you can keep punching him
I have been preaching for quite awhile that CE is the hardest Halo. This video made me feel validated.
But you could have had a much easier time with backpack reload. I used it a lot during the grind