Great Teaching. I learned all this years ago thru Dr. John C. Whitcomb thru Grace Seminary, in Winona Lake, Indiana. Their founder Alva J. McClain wrote a monumental book, "The Greatness of the Kingdom" which is an excellent book describing this teaching in Israel and the Church. Dr Vlach could you post a video showing how Amil and Postmil spiritualize Romans 9 so we can refute their claims better. Thank you.
Thank you Dr. for the video. Timely and shed much light on Israel's issue. Minor correction. Scripture reference in point 11. a. was Rom. 9:3b (not Rom. 11:3b)
I'm not a dispensationalist, but I am a Zionist, premillennialist, and futurist who believes that ethnoterritorial Israel plays a central role in God's redemptive-doxological plan. However, that doesn't mean that I think Christians should hold Israel to a lesser standard than Gentile nations. If Israel as a geopolitical entity or if the Jewish people as a corporate body do something contrary to the Word of God, they should be lovingly admonished.
Serious question, I am a gentile believer and I want to join Israel, become a Jew so that I and my descendants can receive the OT promises just as the sojourners in the OT did. How do I go about doing this?
Believe in Christ & you join the commonwealth of Israel (Eph. 2:11-22). We share in the covenants & promises of Israel. So I see it as a both/and. The Jewish people will get their land in full when they trust in their Messiah & believing Gentiles receive the world as well. Believing Israel will receive the promises through Jesus & believing Gentiles share in those promises & covenants through Jesus. Both/and, not either/or.
@@antenglish1 the only promises we share with israel is fellow heirs ( sonship) and everlasting life , but thats it! in no other way are the promises of land and resurrection in to the kingdom , and many others have anything to do with the body of christ ! its only in the body that jews and gentiles are one and there's no difference but before the body that wasn't true and after the lord comes gets his body then there will be a difference again but now in this present dispensation Israel must come to salvation the same way which we do by trust in the death burial and resurrection of christ Jesus apart from ourselves and all the jew stuff
you dont!!!! your choice in the dispensation of grace is believing and trusting the Gospel ( death burial and resurrection) apart from ourselves and all the jew stuff and you will be baptized by the spirit into the body of christ where there is neither jew or gentile , other wise you have no chance as a jew until the fullness of the gentiles come in and the lord comes and takes the body out of here and resumes his dealings with the nation of Israel, but if you die in this present dispensation and dont trust the blood of christ your as lost as a hindu or muslim, and will have to take your chances at the great white throne of judgment
@@Woodsman35 This is a pertinent question, which I have tried pointing out in the past is a major oversight in the dispensational framework. Under the old covenant, one who was not descended from Abraham according to the flesh was able to join Israel. The new covenant is spoken of as a "better covenant, which was established upon better promises." A covenant that Christ Jesus is the mediator of, the one who "is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them." This statement from Hebrews 7 is after it has already been said, "For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God." That better hope is the Lord Jesus Christ, His perfect sacrifice, and His perfect intercession for His people, which is "not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life." And this applies to those who are not fleshly descendants of Abraham as well as those who are (all of whom have faith in Christ Jesus, that is), as it is written in the epistle to the Ephesians: "Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ." If under the old covenant one could join Israel (which it necessarily followed that the males should be physically circumcised FIRST), then why would it be illicit for one who is not descended from Abraham according to the flesh to become part of Israel under the new (and better) covenant? It makes absolutely no sense. Yet in Acts as well as elsewhere in the new testament, circumcision of the flesh is not deemed necessary for salvation, while those who believe in the Lord Jesus and trust in Him and the grace of God through Him for salvation (whether they are physically circumcised or not) are still referred to as the people of God (1 Peter 2:10, Romans 9:24-25). But concerning circumcision, it is written, "For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God." Those who try to explain this away making it only apply to physical descednats of Abraham have no biblical warrant for doing so, and is flatly contradicted and by passages such as Philippians 3, Ephesians 2, and Colossians 2. This circumcision comes through receiving the Holy Spirit, which comes through faith in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Thank you. Can you please explain to me why you and others use Deuteronomy 30:1-10 for the Land Covenant, aka "Palestinian" Covenant, instead of when God made the covenant with Abraham hundreds of years earlier in Genesis 15:18, "On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, “To your descendants I have given this land, From the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates:" Praying for the peace of Jerusalem. Maranatha.
Loved this presentation. One question - in Deuteronomy 30 the return to the land seems to *follow* a moment of repentance on Israel’s part- yet in Zechariah 12 and Ezekiel 37 Israel seems to be already *in* the land before the Spirit is poured out. Could you please clarify? Thank you.
I'm looking at your posted information above. "It also involves God's original plans concerning Israel for the past, present, and future which are described in Deuteronomy 30:1-10." I'm not accusing you of anything. Just trying to figure out what you posted. @@michaeljvlach7388
2 Nephi 10:3 Wherefore, as I said unto you, it must needs be expedient that Christ-for in the last night the angel spake unto me that this should be his name-should come among the Jews, among those who are the more wicked part of the world; and they shall crucify him-for thus it behooveth our God, and there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God. 4 For should the mighty miracles be wrought among other nations they would repent, and know that he be their God. 5 But because of priestcrafts and iniquities, they at Jerusalem will stiffen their necks against him, that he be crucified. 6 Wherefore, because of their iniquities, destructions, famines, pestilences, and bloodshed shall come upon them; and they who shall not be destroyed shall be scattered among all nations. 7 But behold, thus saith the Lord God: When the day cometh that they shall believe in me, that I am Christ, then have I covenanted with their fathers that they shall be restored in the flesh, upon the earth, unto the lands of their inheritance. 8 And it shall come to pass that they shall be gathered in from their long dispersion, from the isles of the sea, and from the four parts of the earth; and the nations of the Gentiles shall be great in the eyes of me, saith God, in carrying them forth to the lands of their inheritance. 9 Yea, the kings of the Gentiles shall be nursing fathers unto them, and their queens shall become nursing mothers; wherefore, the promises of the Lord are great unto the Gentiles, for he hath spoken it, and who can dispute?
Great stuff, Dr. Vlach. Thank you
Rightly dividing the Word of truth! Thank you, Dr. Vlach!
Great Presentation.
A very accurate depiction.
A shame more believers don't share it.
The Mystery of the blindness of Israel. Rom. 11:25.
Thank you Dr. Vlach!
Great Teaching. I learned all this years ago thru Dr. John C. Whitcomb thru Grace Seminary, in Winona Lake, Indiana. Their founder Alva J. McClain wrote a monumental book, "The Greatness of the Kingdom" which is an excellent book describing this teaching in Israel and the Church. Dr Vlach could you post a video showing how Amil and Postmil spiritualize Romans 9 so we can refute their claims better. Thank you.
These presentations are so very helpful to me. Thank you
Glad you like them!
Great job! Very helpful, especially with today's current events
Thanks Dr. Vlach, much needed
Thank you so much… very helpful. Sharing with my family 👍🏼
Thank you Dr. for the video. Timely and shed much light on Israel's issue.
Minor correction. Scripture reference in point 11. a. was Rom. 9:3b (not Rom. 11:3b)
Excellent Brother!
Excellent! Thank you!
Exceptionally well said!
I'm not a dispensationalist, but I am a Zionist, premillennialist, and futurist who believes that ethnoterritorial Israel plays a central role in God's redemptive-doxological plan. However, that doesn't mean that I think Christians should hold Israel to a lesser standard than Gentile nations. If Israel as a geopolitical entity or if the Jewish people as a corporate body do something contrary to the Word of God, they should be lovingly admonished.
Thanks for your comment. What's the main difference between what you believe and dispensationalism?
Is it possible to acquire your document?
Thank you for your faithfulness and clarity, brother!
Serious question, I am a gentile believer and I want to join Israel, become a Jew so that I and my descendants can receive the OT promises just as the sojourners in the OT did. How do I go about doing this?
Believe in Christ & you join the commonwealth of Israel (Eph. 2:11-22). We share in the covenants & promises of Israel. So I see it as a both/and. The Jewish people will get their land in full when they trust in their Messiah & believing Gentiles receive the world as well. Believing Israel will receive the promises through Jesus & believing Gentiles share in those promises & covenants through Jesus. Both/and, not either/or.
@@antenglish1 the only promises we share with israel is fellow heirs ( sonship) and everlasting life , but thats it! in no other way are the promises of land and resurrection in to the kingdom , and many others have anything to do with the body of christ ! its only in the body that jews and gentiles are one and there's no difference but before the body that wasn't true and after the lord comes gets his body then there will be a difference again but now in this present dispensation Israel must come to salvation the same way which we do by trust in the death burial and resurrection of christ Jesus apart from ourselves and all the jew stuff
you dont!!!! your choice in the dispensation of grace is believing and trusting the Gospel ( death burial and resurrection) apart from ourselves and all the jew stuff and you will be baptized by the spirit into the body of christ where there is neither jew or gentile , other wise you have no chance as a jew until the fullness of the gentiles come in and the lord comes and takes the body out of here and resumes his dealings with the nation of Israel, but if you die in this present dispensation and dont trust the blood of christ your as lost as a hindu or muslim, and will have to take your chances at the great white throne of judgment
@@Woodsman35 This is a pertinent question, which I have tried pointing out in the past is a major oversight in the dispensational framework. Under the old covenant, one who was not descended from Abraham according to the flesh was able to join Israel. The new covenant is spoken of as a "better covenant, which was established upon better promises." A covenant that Christ Jesus is the mediator of, the one who "is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them." This statement from Hebrews 7 is after it has already been said, "For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God." That better hope is the Lord Jesus Christ, His perfect sacrifice, and His perfect intercession for His people, which is "not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life."
And this applies to those who are not fleshly descendants of Abraham as well as those who are (all of whom have faith in Christ Jesus, that is), as it is written in the epistle to the Ephesians:
"Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ."
If under the old covenant one could join Israel (which it necessarily followed that the males should be physically circumcised FIRST), then why would it be illicit for one who is not descended from Abraham according to the flesh to become part of Israel under the new (and better) covenant? It makes absolutely no sense. Yet in Acts as well as elsewhere in the new testament, circumcision of the flesh is not deemed necessary for salvation, while those who believe in the Lord Jesus and trust in Him and the grace of God through Him for salvation (whether they are physically circumcised or not) are still referred to as the people of God (1 Peter 2:10, Romans 9:24-25).
But concerning circumcision, it is written, "For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God." Those who try to explain this away making it only apply to physical descednats of Abraham have no biblical warrant for doing so, and is flatly contradicted and by passages such as Philippians 3, Ephesians 2, and Colossians 2. This circumcision comes through receiving the Holy Spirit, which comes through faith in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Thank you. Can you please explain to me why you and others use Deuteronomy 30:1-10 for the Land Covenant, aka "Palestinian" Covenant, instead of when God made the covenant with Abraham hundreds of years earlier in Genesis 15:18, "On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying,
“To your descendants I have given this land,
From the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates:"
Praying for the peace of Jerusalem. Maranatha.
I never have done what you’re accusing me of. I think it’s Abr Cov. Please get facts right.
Loved this presentation.
One question - in Deuteronomy 30 the return to the land seems to *follow* a moment of repentance on Israel’s part- yet in Zechariah 12 and Ezekiel 37 Israel seems to be already *in* the land before the Spirit is poured out.
Could you please clarify? Thank you.
I'm looking at your posted information above. "It also involves God's original plans concerning Israel for the past, present, and future which are described in Deuteronomy 30:1-10." I'm not accusing you of anything. Just trying to figure out what you posted. @@michaeljvlach7388
2 Nephi 10:3 Wherefore, as I said unto you, it must needs be expedient that Christ-for in the last night the angel spake unto me that this should be his name-should come among the Jews, among those who are the more wicked part of the world; and they shall crucify him-for thus it behooveth our God, and there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God. 4 For should the mighty miracles be wrought among other nations they would repent, and know that he be their God. 5 But because of priestcrafts and iniquities, they at Jerusalem will stiffen their necks against him, that he be crucified. 6 Wherefore, because of their iniquities, destructions, famines, pestilences, and bloodshed shall come upon them; and they who shall not be destroyed shall be scattered among all nations. 7 But behold, thus saith the Lord God: When the day cometh that they shall believe in me, that I am Christ, then have I covenanted with their fathers that they shall be restored in the flesh, upon the earth, unto the lands of their inheritance. 8 And it shall come to pass that they shall be gathered in from their long dispersion, from the isles of the sea, and from the four parts of the earth; and the nations of the Gentiles shall be great in the eyes of me, saith God, in carrying them forth to the lands of their inheritance. 9 Yea, the kings of the Gentiles shall be nursing fathers unto them, and their queens shall become nursing mothers; wherefore, the promises of the Lord are great unto the Gentiles, for he hath spoken it, and who can dispute?
"How much more their fulfillment" and Egypt being a "people of God" are referring to the Millennial reign of Christ on earth, not the current age.
I agree with that. Not sure what you're talking about.