great pod!!! i'm rooting for carolyn as well! watching her as a traitor makes me feel vindicated about rooting for her on s44, i think she was in the right on ep 1 and they shouldn't have gone with dorrinda. hope she makes it to the end, or at least be the last traitor!
@@kassiemontedoro4637 Not 100% correctly. He named two people he thought were traitors and was wrong about one of them. Jeremy correctly named a traitor.
The fact that Dylan pegged Bob TDQ so early must be eating Bob TDQ alive, fully knowing she can't just murder him yet because he's the only one openly gunning for him so if Dylan gets murdered, Bob's cover will be blown.
Cagayan - Wins Game Changers - 2nd Person Voted Out Winners at War - Wins Traitors S3 - 2nd Person Voted Out Tony is winning Survivor AU vs The World CONFIRMED!!!
Praying Dorinda gets a call for a future season... if you've never watched her on TV, you have no idea how robbed we were of ICONIC roundtables and tv moments.
Someday a second chances game of Traitors where people who were only murdered return would be fun. I’d say the same for Johnny Bananas, love or hate him, he is entertaining.
Carolyn was serverly overlooked in her season of Survivor as well. She puts on this aloof all over the place facade but in reality she is very much alert and aware of whats going on. Shes a much better player than people give her credit for.
Yes. Never heard of the man but, he got so, emotional as they all were saying his name. Then his speech at the end calling that other dude a sell-out. Reminded me very much of the movie ending In Too Deep when LL Cool J said you anit no cop, you a sellout. 😢
I am so bummed by all the banishments and murders so far to be honest. Dorinda’s Drama was just heating up, Wells would have been an amazing recruit later in the game, Chanel was bringing amazing energy and fashion, and Tony didn’t get his chance to find a spy shack in the mansion. ☹️
@ agreed, but before the season started I thought the producers might pick Wells as a traitor since he’s such a nice guy that’s been cast as the confidant bartender… he would have been a good foil as a traitor and maybe the cast thought that as well?
Blame Danielle and Bob. Dorinda would easily be the worst pick out of those 3 like she would cause chaos and it would make it easy for the traitors to atleast stay out of sight.
I knew he was going to do well at clocking people before he was on the show. He's not due long for this game I don't think but with him catching Bob he's going to be there for a while.
idk about that, I'd say Boston Rob is the least messy so far. But Carolyn is a close second. Boston Rob just has the disadvantage of being Boston Rob or else I'd say he has a good shot of winning.
She was a messy player when she was on survivor. She’s just as annoying now as she was on survivor. I’m sure she’s a good person but doesn’t mean she’s not annoying.
There was noway they’re just having Boston Rob on for five minutes, he didn’t agree to come on to appear and never be on the snow for five minutes. Look how long he was on Deal or no Deal. As soon as nobody shook the guy’s hand forgot his name, I knew he’d be back as a traitor, it was so obvious
The moment the producers brought him back, I'd think all of these TV professionals would've guessed he was a traitors immediately. Or maybe a few of them suspect he is and are just trying to stay close.
The Rob twist was definitely to protect him from being Banished in the game to early. They knew he would be a huge target and thought of this to lesson the target on him.
Sooooo bummed about Wells!!! Thought he could win! Definitely sad to not get to see Tony play more. Huge Bob fan. Hoping Bob can play it smarter and get far.
Yea I think they aren’t listening to Carolyn and bulldozing…. U get rid of the literal person who would never guess ANYTHING right…. Ayan would be a great patsy to the end. Danielle and Bob need to relax
Danielle Reyes is one of my favorites, back from Big Brother, "the early years," & I enjoyed seeing her on Reindeer Ganes. Both she and Bob The Drag Queen draw way too much attention to themselves by talking way too much. Both are already on people's radar as "Traitors", ,and run the risk of being eliminated sooner rather than later. Wes is playing it safe (the right way), especially after coming straight from runner-up on House of Villains. I agree w/ Pooya - there are too many big names this season - they could have waited to cast some of them on Traitors Season 4. I really like Robyn, & was sad to see Wells & Tony get eliminated so early.
In the UK version, they gave the comeback players a chance to explain why they deserved to rejoin the game, and I wish they’d done the same here. Ayan having to ask Wes who he was highlights the mistake they made. They didn't even know who they were, they just put the coins randomly. Also, in the UK version, only the first two of the three comeback players were allowed back, while the last one never made it into the game.
The thing is they technically weren’t coming back lol. They were coming for the first time. Rob had a cameo but I wouldn’t consider him even being in the game before then
My two favorite BB players of all time… Britney and Derrick. Britney is hysterical and Derrick is the smartest player to ever be on BB. I hope they make it to the end.
I am rooting for Carolyn because in my own life I’ve been treated the same way. Underestimated. Not taken seriously. I am glad though that she has found a way to use that in these games to her advantage. The one dig Gabby threw at her was annoying though.
Bob TDQ is hilarious. And he may be doing too much, but maybe people will just see him as messy but not a threat… what he is doing very well is talking himself out of situations and he’s convinced a lot of the women he’s faithful.
I love love love the entire RHAP podcast. You guys feel like my friends lol. I love competition reality tv and just so glad to have this channel to watch recaps on them. I can't wait to come to a live show ❤
Carolyn was 100% right on not killing Dorinda. She's a free vote off at that round table. people were all saying she's being too extra. Easy vote. I'd honestly recommend anyone playing this show play or watch people at a high skill level play among us or some game similar like town of salem. that's essentially what this is.
Wow! Rob I read Cue the Sun over summer break on vacation and really enjoyed it. The whole time I was wondering if anyone at RHAP has read it. Now I know my answer, can’t wait for the interview !
This is my first time watching Traiters. I loved it so far and love hearing y’all’s thoughts. Looking forward to more of both- thanks for giving us a great pod!
Oh my gosh, if you’re inclined ya gotta check out UK. And Australia and New Zealand, honestly. And Canada, sorry. There’s some real good ones out there.
So many of your questions about strategies can be answered by one thing: most of these contestants do NOT watch the show. They hear about it from their friends on the show or their team. If they actually sat down and watched any episode of any season, they would see the very obvious production choices in who is a traitor or how to actually identify them.
@@OctoberGirl16and you don’t think Rob is too cocky? He’s the poster child for cocky. That being said, Bob is kind of a little too chaotic, but he is masterful at manipulating people in the game.
@@graphiquejack Rob might be cocky but he plays things close. Bob the Drag Queen and Danielle are getting overly confident. They are overdoing it and people are catching on to them already. That endangers the traitors and Rob won’t continue to protect them and risk his safety as a traitor… nor should he. Personally I’m rooting for Derrick.. Wes.. Dylan.. and Britney although I’m finding Caroline’s quirkiness rather endearing.
People I don’t care if they leave.. (maybe I’ll change my mind!!)…Tom, Sam, Robyn, Danielle, Bob the Drag Queen, Dolores, and Ciara. Was sad to lose Wells, Dorinda and Ayan who was beautiful and funny!! They all had more to offer in entertainment than Sam or Tom. Just my opinions.
@ they do cast some people who are “celebrities”… we just don’t know them. However I do think the game provides a more level playing field with all “regular” people. In Season one of US Traitors it very much came down to accusations of the celebrity players not needing the money like the regular players. It made for a sad ending I thought.
Any predictions on how Derrick will play the game? It’d be fun for producers to debrief his strategy every day in private and then have those moments as an episode after the finale. Smart players will not say everything they are thinking to other players in real time.
I love how the other Traitors were quick to scapegoat Carolyn when she's the most unassuming Traitor. Rob, Danielle and Bob TDQ's names all have been floated around at least once yet Carolyn remains untargeted.
I love this show SO much! I hate waiting for more episodes. I could binge watch the whole season in one day. Lmaooo at the Sandoval shade. I thought his antics were hilarious and was cracking up at Bob The Drag Queen asking why is Sandoval mad dogging me 😂😂. So sad for Tony. Wanted to see him play longer. Keeping my fingers crossed that Jeremy makes it further. I love Boston Rob too! Danielle Reyes needs to tone it down. Her acting is not as believable as she thinks it is. She’s doing too much. Carolyn is fun to watch and I’m loving Dylan Efron. What a surprise and he’s so cute 🥰. Overall great season so far! Can’t wait for more!
PS I am probably in the minority here, but I don't know most of the people on this show. If I'm not the minority, would it be possible for y'all to add pictures of everyone like you do with Big Brother? At least for the first couple weeks until we know everyone?
I almost cried when they banished Tony 😢 They were all piling up on him & I felt soooo bad. I just know how hurtful that is especially when you're innocent. I didn't like that they made him cry, I went into protective mode like leave him alone!! 😂
so if the faithfuls where paying attention, they'll acuse Boston Rob, that will connect with Bob the Dragqueen, and then that'll connect with Danielle, then the chain stops and Caroline will be the last one standing, depending on whow she recruits
Very much not into the fact that 3 men got a bye week in exchange for losing potentially one of the most entertaining people on this cast in Dorinda. So frustrating.
I do have a few things I wanted to mention to kinda add on to what y'all were talking about with Bob and Rob in episode 3. Specifically, you mentioned things both of them did and commended them, but to be honest, I actually found myself in the moment going damn that's suspicious. The first one, with Boston Rob, when he responded to Tony's accusation of "Why are you bringing this up if you don't think I'm a traitor"---if I heard that question and the other person couldn't give a solid answer, I would find that off. Because, as a Faithful, I would think that if I brought up specific details like that during a Roundtable, I'd be saying them with a specific reason why I'm bringing it up. Rob's wishy washy response there gave me red flags, since he real reasoning was probably "because I'm throwing you under the bus," and that doesn't sound good to say. Instead, in my opinion, it came across as him flubbing it a bit. But then again, I'm also aware that he's the Traitor so maybe it'd be different in practice. The other thing was in the Bob/Dylan chat after the Roundtable. Y'all said that Bob handled it perfectly, and while I think he did fine there, I wanna give even more props to our boy little Efron for his under the radar maneuvering. Immediately after, when Bob came up to him, Dylan said to him and the others nearby that "Yeah you've kinda convinced me now I think." And Bob bought him! Bob didn't bring his name up at all during the little secret room convention! But seconds after that line out of Dylan, it cut to a confessional where Dylan said he's still sus on Bob, but is going to keep it on the down low. If I was Dylan at that point and I survived to the next day, my sus on Bob would be going crazyyyy. I would assume that if Bob was a Traitor, he would keep me safe because we had that quick reconciliation. To me, I'd feel honestly more likely to die if Bob is a Faithful, since the rest of the house won't make the assumption that Bob is no longer wary of me and will try to frame him there. Just some things I thought of while listening. Also, even if Gabby does see something up happening with the secret door, Carolyn has the perfect excuse of being Carolyn. I'm all in on the Carolyn train she is set for the win this year. Go Carolyn!!!!!!
I agree with everything you said. I think so far Carolyn is the only Traitor that’s playing flawlessly. I was shocked at the missteps by Boston Rob and Danielle given that they were such good players on their shows (Boston Rob is my all time favorite player). It’s been interesting to see them get their footing in this game. You can tell neither of them has watched Traitors before. Hopefully they both get it together in the next few episodes.
I feel like I want to watch season 10 of this show, where the strategy and the meta have progressed and the editing too. Comparing it to the Circle for example, it feels like players are still "trying to catch the catfish" instead of playing to win.
This is the same problem that Dan had last year. Yes Dan was a traitor, but when you have the biggest reputation on the cast for dominating shows like this you cannot last long in the format of the traitors. I was always afraid Tony would be gone in the first few episodes. If Jeremy goes next I’ll be so sad lol. Good thing the rest of the cast is still very entertaining, but Tony and Jeremy were who I was looking forward to the most
I don’t think BR would’ve been a traitor if they didn’t banish him. If you remember, they had to banish another player for BR to enter the game. I think whoever was banished was going to be a traitor and if BR did enter the game through someone shaking Alan’s hand, he wouldn’t have been picked at the round table. Just my thoughts.
I'm guessing Tom has hyperhydrosis. I really think Andrew Lincoln (aka Rick Grimes) does, too. As someone with it, I can vouch for how much it sucks to be sweating even when you are cold.
Coming in late so I expect almost no one to see this, but I absolutely thought I heard Alan say, although not *right* at the scene where the 3 caged guys were first revealed in the forest, something along the lines of “but are they coming in as faithful or traitor?” And it stuck with me because I thought the timing was interesting/wondered if it was purposeful and because I was looking for it as soon as they came in. Anybody else?
I am confused about the rule change for the final where he said they don’t reveal whether they are a traitor or faithful if they get banished? Isn’t that already how it went? I feel like I don’t remember them saying if they were a traitor or faithful if they get out at that point? I guess I need to rewatch those episodes but I was confused about that
Prior to now in both the US and UK versions they revealed all the way through the end, certain seasons of the international versions have experimented with hiding either the final 5 vote specifically or all the votes after 5.
I think the problem for the Housewives coming in to this season (in the eyes of everyone else) is that they the most loyal to themselves and that's scary to anyone. I think they will always be targeted first (in future seasons) unless they prove they could go against each other. every other group of cast, like the gamers, have proven time and time again that they wouldn't mind throwing one of their "friends" under the bus if need be and that type of "friendship" is less threatening. At least that's how I see it or would have seen it. dismantle the loyal housewives before they outnumber you or become a threatening voting block
Bob the Drag Queen released a recap of episodes 1-3 and he said the exact same thing. He knew the housewives were loyal to each other and all the gamers had beef with each other.
Spoilers in this comment. About to watch the recap, but I have to say, I have a hard time seeing Danielle or Bob (Queen) making it to the end unless things change drastically. Both doing a bit too much. Rob being Rob could get ousted just for who he is, like Tony was. Kind of crazy how quickly people are blind to seeing Bob (Queen) as possibly a traitor, not even open to it, even players like Jeremy. Craziness! Even Tony didn’t try going with votes, he still went Bob H. As a faithful rooter, Dylan/Derrick are the main hope at the moment,they just have to be able to convince others.
Unfortunately it’s about to happen. Danielle is not playing good as a traitor, she is going to play scared and push them to murder Jeremy thinking it covers her tracks. Only Rob can stop it.
Tony was never going to do well at this game. His energy is frantic, which in a game like this, agitates people. He looks sus. He is very loud. All not doing him favors in this game.
I think after this season production has to wise up and NOT put survivor and big brother in the turret. It’s been way too consistent every season to have at least one of each from very early days that players will start just taking out those groups no matter what but the first few votes
I wish when they told them they were murdered they also told them who the traitors were so we could see the reaction. I get if they want them to come back we cannot see that but if they were not planning on bringing them back it would be a cool thing to add.
Saying Bob said "why all the same people" is too general from what happened. Bob said, "Why are all the women..." big difference. I think bob is gonna be a strong player
i loved gabby on the bachelor but i was so sad to hear her side with bob h when he was calling carolyn "batshit"!! maybe she was just trying to be agreeable i guess we'll just have to wait and see but i wish people could get carolyn like i do lol i love her
great pod!!! i'm rooting for carolyn as well! watching her as a traitor makes me feel vindicated about rooting for her on s44, i think she was in the right on ep 1 and they shouldn't have gone with dorrinda. hope she makes it to the end, or at least be the last traitor!
Yes! Dylan Efron was a pleasant surprise! He was literally the only person on there that was thinking 100% correctly.
@@kassiemontedoro4637 Not 100% correctly. He named two people he thought were traitors and was wrong about one of them. Jeremy correctly named a traitor.
The fact that Dylan pegged Bob TDQ so early must be eating Bob TDQ alive, fully knowing she can't just murder him yet because he's the only one openly gunning for him so if Dylan gets murdered, Bob's cover will be blown.
His logic was flawed
@@jameswood3606Honestly hes doing well for his first time but at the same time Bob and Danielle are like the two worst players in the game rn.
@@NirYuZy So true.. and yet they THINK they are great… which is how they’ll get caught!!!
Cagayan - Wins
Game Changers - 2nd Person Voted Out
Winners at War - Wins
Traitors S3 - 2nd Person Voted Out
Tony is winning Survivor AU vs The World CONFIRMED!!!
😂
Making Bob TDQ a Traitor feels like an apology for Peppermint's first boot last season.
Both of them are too extra, no need in it.
Rob and Pooya podcasting the traitors is very entertaining as the show itself. I’m all in . Great energy guys!
Praying Dorinda gets a call for a future season... if you've never watched her on TV, you have no idea how robbed we were of ICONIC roundtables and tv moments.
Someday a second chances game of Traitors where people who were only murdered return would be fun. I’d say the same for Johnny Bananas, love or hate him, he is entertaining.
Carolyn was serverly overlooked in her season of Survivor as well. She puts on this aloof all over the place facade but in reality she is very much alert and aware of whats going on. Shes a much better player than people give her credit for.
indeed , i do think the reason why the Tika 3 was so strong was people thinking she was the weak link that could be broken when she always knew better
Absolutely ❤
She kind of looks like she is having an allergic reaction to seafood bruh.
Tony's exit nearly made me shed a gangsta tear
Yes. Never heard of the man but, he got so, emotional as they all were saying his name. Then his speech at the end calling that other dude a sell-out.
Reminded me very much of the movie ending In Too Deep when LL Cool J said you anit no cop, you a sellout. 😢
He more I think about I think he feels dude set him up.
😢
Tony the Cop is a legend unfortunately.
@@andrewpratt8081 I had an inside cry.
I am so bummed by all the banishments and murders so far to be honest. Dorinda’s Drama was just heating up, Wells would have been an amazing recruit later in the game, Chanel was bringing amazing energy and fashion, and Tony didn’t get his chance to find a spy shack in the mansion. ☹️
I agree on Dorinda’s part, I wanted her to stay for the dramaaaa lol
I'm honestly shocked that Wells attracted so much attention so quickly. Robyn & Wells being at the top of the suspicious list - who would've thunk it?
@ agreed, but before the season started I thought the producers might pick Wells as a traitor since he’s such a nice guy that’s been cast as the confidant bartender… he would have been a good foil as a traitor and maybe the cast thought that as well?
The Dorinda elimination was disappointing. I thought it would be Robyn.
Blame Danielle and Bob. Dorinda would easily be the worst pick out of those 3 like she would cause chaos and it would make it easy for the traitors to atleast stay out of sight.
Rob's imitations of Rob/Jeremy/Tony are gold 😂
"bruh it's the Traitors, you're gonna be fine"
Rob you're so real, ily
I’m obsessed with the Boston Rob impression 😭
Can we talk about the other Efron’s killer reads?! I might even remember his name by next episode! 👀
I knew he was going to do well at clocking people before he was on the show. He's not due long for this game I don't think but with him catching Bob he's going to be there for a while.
He is def getting a deep runner edit. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins
It must be so cool for him to be able to show his brother, after watching HIM on TV all these years, he gets his shine now. Seems like a cool guy
They've been saying it this whole podcast and
Dylan isn't a hard name to remember
As someone who is bad with names
I literally screamed out loud when Derrick was revealed. I’ve been putting his name out there for the show since the beginning.
Gutted to have lost Wells so early. He had soooo much potential. Dylan is giving Bachelor Peter/Kevin energy - unexpectedly good start!
Absolutely iconic third episode exit
King stays King no matter what
Did not expect Caroline to be the least messy traitor!
Carolyn!
idk about that, I'd say Boston Rob is the least messy so far. But Carolyn is a close second. Boston Rob just has the disadvantage of being Boston Rob or else I'd say he has a good shot of winning.
If Rob wasn’t coming in with an enormous target we’d all be saying he’s playing the best game
She was a messy player when she was on survivor. She’s just as annoying now as she was on survivor. I’m sure she’s a good person but doesn’t mean she’s not annoying.
There was noway they’re just having Boston Rob on for five minutes, he didn’t agree to come on to appear and never be on the snow for five minutes. Look how long he was on Deal or no Deal. As soon as nobody shook the guy’s hand forgot his name, I knew he’d be back as a traitor, it was so obvious
Wait, am I hearing correctly that Rob C wants to play DONDI and Traitors Season 5?
They interviewed Joe Mangenellio and he basically invited Rob to play DONDI!!
Great 3 episodes so far! I got my wish of there being 4 starting Traitors! Spices it up!
It's hard to believe they didn't vote out Boston Rob the first chance they got, of course he would be a traitor!
Chile. Yes.
Lordt I can’t stand him and I want him gone
@@graphiquejack He is such a kill-joy! Ugh! Ruined the whole fun vibe!
The moment the producers brought him back, I'd think all of these TV professionals would've guessed he was a traitors immediately.
Or maybe a few of them suspect he is and are just trying to stay close.
Maybe they’re just saving him for later, the goal of The Traitors is not actually to vote out the traitors lol
"is this guy on something?" lmaoooooo
The Rob twist was definitely to protect him from being Banished in the game to early. They knew he would be a huge target and thought of this to lesson the target on him.
i had to wait until i watched all the eps to listen-- one episode at a time would be great
Sooooo bummed about Wells!!! Thought he could win! Definitely sad to not get to see Tony play more. Huge Bob fan. Hoping Bob can play it smarter and get far.
Yea I think they aren’t listening to Carolyn and bulldozing…. U get rid of the literal person who would never guess ANYTHING right…. Ayan would be a great patsy to the end. Danielle and Bob need to relax
Yaaaas, they are talking too much!
@@tywannapenn524they’re going to get caught. Rob can’t keep covering for them. Won’t be unhappy if they’re caught.
Danielle Reyes is one of my favorites, back from Big Brother, "the early years," & I enjoyed seeing her on Reindeer Ganes. Both she and Bob The Drag Queen draw way too much attention to themselves by talking way too much. Both are already on people's radar as "Traitors", ,and run the risk of being eliminated sooner rather than later. Wes is playing it safe (the right way), especially after coming straight from runner-up on House of Villains. I agree w/ Pooya - there are too many big names this season - they could have waited to cast some of them on Traitors Season 4. I really like Robyn, & was sad to see Wells & Tony get eliminated so early.
Agreed! I thought they played Day 1 really well but then they both started over-acting. It's looking like they'll be the first two traitors caught.
I was sad to see Wells and Dorinda go. They had so much to offer.
Not only talking too much, but what about Danielle’s fake crying multiple times was just too much
@@emmanaden203 agreed. Boston Rob isn’t going to continue to cover for Bob the Drag Queen or Danielle if they endanger the Traitors.
I'm loving Rob C's impersonations, they are so good!!
So happy Tony was sent out early. My Peacock subscription had expired and I didn't renew until I saw he was gone! Loving this season now.
In the UK version, they gave the comeback players a chance to explain why they deserved to rejoin the game, and I wish they’d done the same here. Ayan having to ask Wes who he was highlights the mistake they made. They didn't even know who they were, they just put the coins randomly. Also, in the UK version, only the first two of the three comeback players were allowed back, while the last one never made it into the game.
I think it worked overall to make it easier for Rob to join as a traitor. He got in first, everyone will be sus on him right away.
The thing is they technically weren’t coming back lol. They were coming for the first time. Rob had a cameo but I wouldn’t consider him even being in the game before then
My two favorite BB players of all time… Britney and Derrick. Britney is hysterical and Derrick is the smartest player to ever be on BB. I hope they make it to the end.
BB16 was my first season I watched.. Flawless game by Derrick...❤
I am rooting for Carolyn because in my own life I’ve been treated the same way. Underestimated. Not taken seriously. I am glad though that she has found a way to use that in these games to her advantage. The one dig Gabby threw at her was annoying though.
I missed the dig. What did Gabby say?
Alan did say "whether they come in as faithful or traitor" at some point.
6 episodes are out so far, it's quite good
Yes, thank you, I was sure I heard him say it as well, maybe not right when those guys were revealed in the cages but a bit later.
Carolyn's by far the best traitor out of this bunch and it's not even close 🥳
Love seeing your commentary! I bet Pooya would be great on that traitors cruise
Bob TDQ is hilarious. And he may be doing too much, but maybe people will just see him as messy but not a threat… what he is doing very well is talking himself out of situations and he’s convinced a lot of the women he’s faithful.
I love love love the entire RHAP podcast. You guys feel like my friends lol. I love competition reality tv and just so glad to have this channel to watch recaps on them. I can't wait to come to a live show ❤
Carolyn was 100% right on not killing Dorinda. She's a free vote off at that round table. people were all saying she's being too extra. Easy vote. I'd honestly recommend anyone playing this show play or watch people at a high skill level play among us or some game similar like town of salem. that's essentially what this is.
Wow! Rob I read Cue the Sun over summer break on vacation and really enjoyed it. The whole time I was wondering if anyone at RHAP has read it. Now I know my answer, can’t wait for the interview !
I was just waiting for Tony to say “You’re a little man, Rob”
Lol yes Rob is😂
I loved everything about this podcast esp Rob your impressions are always top tier.
This is my first time watching Traiters. I loved it so far and love hearing y’all’s thoughts. Looking forward to more of both- thanks for giving us a great pod!
Oh my gosh, if you’re inclined ya gotta check out UK. And Australia and New Zealand, honestly. And Canada, sorry. There’s some real good ones out there.
You should watch season 2, it was fantastic!
So many of your questions about strategies can be answered by one thing: most of these contestants do NOT watch the show. They hear about it from their friends on the show or their team. If they actually sat down and watched any episode of any season, they would see the very obvious production choices in who is a traitor or how to actually identify them.
Boston Rob will sacrifice Bob the drag Queen and Danielle if they get too messy to save the traitors.
They doing too much. I would too.
@ Boston Rob and Bob the Drag Queen are going to clash in the traitors room. Bob is already too big headed.
@@OctoberGirl16and you don’t think Rob is too cocky? He’s the poster child for cocky. That being said, Bob is kind of a little too chaotic, but he is masterful at manipulating people in the game.
@@graphiquejack Rob might be cocky but he plays things close. Bob the Drag Queen and Danielle are getting overly confident. They are overdoing it and people are catching on to them already. That endangers the traitors and Rob won’t continue to protect them and risk his safety as a traitor… nor should he. Personally I’m rooting for Derrick.. Wes.. Dylan.. and Britney although I’m finding Caroline’s quirkiness rather endearing.
People I don’t care if they leave.. (maybe I’ll change my mind!!)…Tom, Sam, Robyn, Danielle, Bob the Drag Queen, Dolores, and Ciara. Was sad to lose Wells, Dorinda and Ayan who was beautiful and funny!! They all had more to offer in entertainment than Sam or Tom. Just my opinions.
50:03 Alan did say are they faithful or traitors when he introduced the three new players
Just watch Traitors NZ. It was great. I’ve watched all the other but waiting for UK Season 3.
All of the other traitor shows are far more better than the US, because they don't cast reality stars from the same board of networks
@ they do cast some people who are “celebrities”… we just don’t know them. However I do think the game provides a more level playing field with all “regular” people. In Season one of US Traitors it very much came down to accusations of the celebrity players not needing the money like the regular players. It made for a sad ending I thought.
Derek already suspects that either Wes or Boston Rob are Traitors… but he was told he’s a Faithful, next to Wes!
During funhouse Ep#3 challenge, why didnt they just use descriptions like "3rd door from left" just to make it easier for themselves?
I thought the same thing! I suspect production told them they couldn’t because that would make it too easy 🤷🏽♀️
Alan did say the question are they faithful or traitor while the 3 players were still up in their cages
Any predictions on how Derrick will play the game? It’d be fun for producers to debrief his strategy every day in private and then have those moments as an episode after the finale. Smart players will not say everything they are thinking to other players in real time.
I love how the other Traitors were quick to scapegoat Carolyn when she's the most unassuming Traitor. Rob, Danielle and Bob TDQ's names all have been floated around at least once yet Carolyn remains untargeted.
I love this show SO much! I hate waiting for more episodes. I could binge watch the whole season in one day. Lmaooo at the Sandoval shade. I thought his antics were hilarious and was cracking up at Bob The Drag Queen asking why is Sandoval mad dogging me 😂😂.
So sad for Tony. Wanted to see him play longer. Keeping my fingers crossed that Jeremy makes it further. I love Boston Rob too! Danielle Reyes needs to tone it down. Her acting is not as believable as she thinks it is. She’s doing too much. Carolyn is fun to watch and I’m loving Dylan Efron. What a surprise and he’s so cute 🥰. Overall great season so far! Can’t wait for more!
The boston rob impression is scarily good lol
Loving the season and the coverage so far! Would love some extra “preseason”episodes covering Wes and Derrick this week, if that’s at all possible
PS I am probably in the minority here, but I don't know most of the people on this show. If I'm not the minority, would it be possible for y'all to add pictures of everyone like you do with Big Brother? At least for the first couple weeks until we know everyone?
I almost cried when they banished Tony 😢 They were all piling up on him & I felt soooo bad. I just know how hurtful that is especially when you're innocent. I didn't like that they made him cry, I went into protective mode like leave him alone!! 😂
🤣😂 there is no crying in reality TV!
I am of the opinion that whomever is exiled day 1 comes in as a traitor with Wes + Derrick. It just happened to be Rob.
so if the faithfuls where paying attention, they'll acuse Boston Rob, that will connect with Bob the Dragqueen, and then that'll connect with Danielle, then the chain stops and Caroline will be the last one standing, depending on whow she recruits
🏝️🏖️ love the cast from Bachelor & Survivor!!!😮Tony & Wells gone, my 2 favs😮soooo sad😢😢
Very much not into the fact that 3 men got a bye week in exchange for losing potentially one of the most entertaining people on this cast in Dorinda. So frustrating.
I do have a few things I wanted to mention to kinda add on to what y'all were talking about with Bob and Rob in episode 3. Specifically, you mentioned things both of them did and commended them, but to be honest, I actually found myself in the moment going damn that's suspicious. The first one, with Boston Rob, when he responded to Tony's accusation of "Why are you bringing this up if you don't think I'm a traitor"---if I heard that question and the other person couldn't give a solid answer, I would find that off. Because, as a Faithful, I would think that if I brought up specific details like that during a Roundtable, I'd be saying them with a specific reason why I'm bringing it up. Rob's wishy washy response there gave me red flags, since he real reasoning was probably "because I'm throwing you under the bus," and that doesn't sound good to say. Instead, in my opinion, it came across as him flubbing it a bit. But then again, I'm also aware that he's the Traitor so maybe it'd be different in practice.
The other thing was in the Bob/Dylan chat after the Roundtable. Y'all said that Bob handled it perfectly, and while I think he did fine there, I wanna give even more props to our boy little Efron for his under the radar maneuvering. Immediately after, when Bob came up to him, Dylan said to him and the others nearby that "Yeah you've kinda convinced me now I think." And Bob bought him! Bob didn't bring his name up at all during the little secret room convention! But seconds after that line out of Dylan, it cut to a confessional where Dylan said he's still sus on Bob, but is going to keep it on the down low. If I was Dylan at that point and I survived to the next day, my sus on Bob would be going crazyyyy. I would assume that if Bob was a Traitor, he would keep me safe because we had that quick reconciliation. To me, I'd feel honestly more likely to die if Bob is a Faithful, since the rest of the house won't make the assumption that Bob is no longer wary of me and will try to frame him there.
Just some things I thought of while listening. Also, even if Gabby does see something up happening with the secret door, Carolyn has the perfect excuse of being Carolyn. I'm all in on the Carolyn train she is set for the win this year. Go Carolyn!!!!!!
I agree with everything you said. I think so far Carolyn is the only Traitor that’s playing flawlessly. I was shocked at the missteps by Boston Rob and Danielle given that they were such good players on their shows (Boston Rob is my all time favorite player). It’s been interesting to see them get their footing in this game. You can tell neither of them has watched Traitors before. Hopefully they both get it together in the next few episodes.
Love your hat Rob 😂
I feel like I want to watch season 10 of this show, where the strategy and the meta have progressed and the editing too. Comparing it to the Circle for example, it feels like players are still "trying to catch the catfish" instead of playing to win.
50:20 alan actually did say a "but are they faithful or traitor?" thing when they were introduced.
This is the same problem that Dan had last year. Yes Dan was a traitor, but when you have the biggest reputation on the cast for dominating shows like this you cannot last long in the format of the traitors. I was always afraid Tony would be gone in the first few episodes. If Jeremy goes next I’ll be so sad lol. Good thing the rest of the cast is still very entertaining, but Tony and Jeremy were who I was looking forward to the most
This why they shouldn't cast ppl from reality shows.
Rob C on traitors season 4 please
After seeing Rob target Tony. I have a feeling he wanted some redemption...
I don’t think BR would’ve been a traitor if they didn’t banish him. If you remember, they had to banish another player for BR to enter the game. I think whoever was banished was going to be a traitor and if BR did enter the game through someone shaking Alan’s hand, he wouldn’t have been picked at the round table. Just my thoughts.
So many big personalities this season. Every banishment and murder stings so far.
To answer your question Rob, yes Sandoval is on something. The fandom is assuming he’s going through some withdrawals.
I'm guessing Tom has hyperhydrosis. I really think Andrew Lincoln (aka Rick Grimes) does, too. As someone with it, I can vouch for how much it sucks to be sweating even when you are cold.
He’s struggled publically with substance abuse as well
The show has decided for Rob to be on e show no matter what.. dohhh
I wonder if the Boston Rob work around, is a make good for Bananas first elimination. truly wish he got to play the game last year
Coming in late so I expect almost no one to see this, but I absolutely thought I heard Alan say, although not *right* at the scene where the 3 caged guys were first revealed in the forest, something along the lines of “but are they coming in as faithful or traitor?” And it stuck with me because I thought the timing was interesting/wondered if it was purposeful and because I was looking for it as soon as they came in. Anybody else?
I am confused about the rule change for the final where he said they don’t reveal whether they are a traitor or faithful if they get banished? Isn’t that already how it went? I feel like I don’t remember them saying if they were a traitor or faithful if they get out at that point? I guess I need to rewatch those episodes but I was confused about that
Prior to now in both the US and UK versions they revealed all the way through the end, certain seasons of the international versions have experimented with hiding either the final 5 vote specifically or all the votes after 5.
@ ah ok thank you! for some reason I thought Arie kept it super vague but I guess I’m not remembering correctly. I think it will be a good change!
They changed the rule, when you got banished, they used to confess, whether or not they were a TRAITOR.
I think the problem for the Housewives coming in to this season (in the eyes of everyone else) is that they the most loyal to themselves and that's scary to anyone. I think they will always be targeted first (in future seasons) unless they prove they could go against each other. every other group of cast, like the gamers, have proven time and time again that they wouldn't mind throwing one of their "friends" under the bus if need be and that type of "friendship" is less threatening. At least that's how I see it or would have seen it. dismantle the loyal housewives before they outnumber you or become a threatening voting block
Bob the Drag Queen released a recap of episodes 1-3 and he said the exact same thing. He knew the housewives were loyal to each other and all the gamers had beef with each other.
Absolutely devastated by Tony's exit. Pulling for Derrick, Carolyn, and Jeremy now!
I’m a patron but don’t see where I can watch the international versions on the website.
Spoilers in this comment.
About to watch the recap, but I have to say, I have a hard time seeing Danielle or Bob (Queen) making it to the end unless things change drastically. Both doing a bit too much. Rob being Rob could get ousted just for who he is, like Tony was.
Kind of crazy how quickly people are blind to seeing Bob (Queen) as possibly a traitor, not even open to it, even players like Jeremy. Craziness! Even Tony didn’t try going with votes, he still went Bob H.
As a faithful rooter, Dylan/Derrick are the main hope at the moment,they just have to be able to convince others.
Rob, loving the Scottish look 👌
Very ironic to be making fun of robs fashion choices
As a Survivor fan, Sandra and Tony’s are the most heartbreaking banishments for me.
Does anyone know if the Claire feedback show is live & when it's happening/being posted?
Rooting for Jeremy!!!!
sandoval begging to be a faithful when he couldn’t even be faithful to his 10 yr long gf
If Tony and Jeremy go out back to back I’m gonna care so much less about this season
Unfortunately it’s about to happen. Danielle is not playing good as a traitor, she is going to play scared and push them to murder Jeremy thinking it covers her tracks. Only Rob can stop it.
Caroline pacing back and forth was sus and caused people to think something was going on so when the twist is announced then she will be in trouble.
Lot of Boston Rob hate. Geez he was the only reason to watch Deal or No Deal Island last season. Rob is the boss, glad he is on Traitors.
best show hands own, another award incoming!!!
im SO SAD no more tony impression from Rob
Tony was never going to do well at this game.
His energy is frantic, which in a game like this, agitates people.
He looks sus.
He is very loud.
All not doing him favors in this game.
Where did Ferguson come from?
Where can an American watch UK Traitors 3?
I think after this season production has to wise up and NOT put survivor and big brother in the turret. It’s been way too consistent every season to have at least one of each from very early days that players will start just taking out those groups no matter what but the first few votes
I wish when they told them they were murdered they also told them who the traitors were so we could see the reaction. I get if they want them to come back we cannot see that but if they were not planning on bringing them back it would be a cool thing to add.
Saying Bob said "why all the same people" is too general from what happened. Bob said, "Why are all the women..." big difference. I think bob is gonna be a strong player
Bob Harper
Bob the Drag Queen
Boston Bob
Don't forget the real housewife Bobyn! 😂
& Wes is Ferguson’s cousin!😂
i loved gabby on the bachelor but i was so sad to hear her side with bob h when he was calling carolyn "batshit"!! maybe she was just trying to be agreeable i guess we'll just have to wait and see but i wish people could get carolyn like i do lol i love her
I hope they get to recruit Derrick as a traitor.. I would need to get that man on my side asap
The way they shoehorned Rob into the game was very corny to me. If they wanted him in the game, just put him in there🙄