Rob's biggest mistake was saying "If its not Bob, vote for me" Boston Rob would NEVER throw himself on a grenade like that....if I heard that at the round table, Id immediately clock Rob and Bob the Drag Queen as confirmed Traitors
Yeah, saying you know for certain who a traitor is means you're a traitor, full stop. The faithfuls are going to do the same calculus they did last year when Dan called out Phaedra. "why would you take such a big swing if you weren't 100% sure? only traitors can be 100% sure." "
Look Poor Boston Rob! He didn’t have that mistake but Sir Efron making Rob throw and catch. He told him go for Bob the drag queen and he sat there like a pup looking dumbfounded
Rob's decision to take out Bob was a good short term strategy but not a good long term strategy. He's about to repeat the same error as Dan did last season.
I disgree that this was a masterful move made by Rob. Rob is similar to Cirie in that he's willing to go with the flow until things don't go his way. But when Cirie locks in, she's very subtle. She never pissed off any of the other traitors. I really don't think it was worth it for Rob, especially when you now have Danielle mad at you and Carolyn has a very good reason to get rid of you. There's only two survivor players left, and Carolyn isn't the one they are going to be looking at. Bob messed up tonight, and Rob could have easily made this move without getting his hands as dirty. Move to make the votes happen but don't directly attack him at the roundtable.
I would agree! To his strategic detriment, Bob has a lot more ego than Cirie. Too much to pull this off with the savvy comp folks-seems to be effective enough with non-reality comp ppl (thinking here and when comparing redemption island to winners at war)
Rob said he "shouldn't battle Bob at the roundtable" because it would alienate Carolyn and Danielle and that he'd "use the work [he's] done outside of the roundtable to blindside Bob". Then he battled Bob at the roundtable and alienated Carolyn and Danielle. That move is going to prove to be incredibly shortsighted for him.
I agree with Pooya, killing Jeremy and then going after Bob were just two terrible game moves by Rob. It made for great television, but I don't see his path forward.
Killing Jeremy makes it look like non gamer types are in the turret, especially after he went after Bob. This can now be looked as Rob being worried seeing a survivor player voted out, and needing to get Bob a traitor before he can murder him, and it would make his actions looks rational. Now he has complete control in the turret and over the murders, which is what you want. I think he overcooked it with being 100% Bob was a traitor, but I can see why, Bob had a lot of pull. That looked suspicious.
If this were a civillian season then bussing a traitor like this would probably work better - we saw this with Sam in TTAU2. But I think this crop of players is smarter than that, and Derrick/Wes should both be able to see Rob's game fully exposed now.
Another good episode for my girl Carolyn. I still don't like the way folks are treating her, but so much of this can positively play into her hand so I'm happy.
Yes! The best part of the season is watching Carolyn stay completely outside of suspicion because all the other traitors are being so crazy. The best possible ending to this season is Carolyn winning the whole thing because no one suspects her.
She's been right about every single move and every single warning she's given, but it doesn't matter, because Bob is gonna reflect back on Rob, Jeremy is gonna come back on Danielle, she's been trying to be cautious in protecting them with the aftermath of their moves and setting themselves up to protect the traitors, but they haven't bothered to listen to her She's gonna win
Wes’s comment at the end of the episode about Rob’s certainty on Bob was 1 of the best reads in the show so far imo. His next best move is to get with Derrick since he was also part of “the late 3” and to make him aware of his suspicions (remember, Derrick also thinks 1 of the late 3 is a traitor so it’ll be easy for Wes to sway him on this) but tell him that they can’t put the target on Rob during the round tables just yet. Instead, both Derrick and Wes should cozy up to Rob (separately, not go up to him together), and accuse the other person since they’re “confident”that 1 of the 3 is a traitor. So, for example, Wes tells Rob he just has a hunch that it’s Derrick for that reason, and Derrick tells Rob in privacy he has a hunch it could be Wes for that reason…But, immediately after they tell Rob of their “hunches”, they then back pedal and say “but If we’re wrong and Derrick (or Wes) ends up being a faithful, then we’ll be screwed because the target on our backs will become MASSIVE knowing that everyone has a suspicion that 1 of us 3 is a traitor. So if we get that person wrong, they’ll then think it’s a 50/50 chance that it’s me or you, and whether it be the next vote or later down the road, our game is over.” Doing this would motivate Boston Rob to keep both Wes and Derrick in the game for as long as possible if they were to do this- giving Wes and Derrick enough time to really start observing Rob and to collect enough intel to make the case for Rob being the traitor later down the road (or saving him till the end). Ultimately, Wes knows Rob is a traitor, and Derrick knows that 1 of the 3 late arrivals is a Traitor (so either Wes or Rob). If Wes convinces Derrick about this, which I believe he will, they could be dangerous together if they play it right and don’t play the hand too soon..
Bob DQ took the first shot when at the challenge he looked at Rob and said one of the cage boys was a traitor. And then he smiled That’s when Rob was activated.
Yeah he talks way to much to make him look innocent and doesn’t think about what he’s saying but I don’t think it was a smart move for rob he should of at least talked to bob about it 😂
I think Boston Rob started laying it on thick because too many people were still on the fence, which caught him off guard. He didn’t have a way out and couldn’t backpedal, so he had to push through. There’s a scene where we see the panic in his eyes. He realized his mistake and had no choice but to double down. I think his mistake was underestimating his opponent and overestimating the votes he had before the round table. He will definitely have to do some damage control, and if anyone can do it, it’s him.
Unpopular opinion: BTDQ can only blame himself for his own banishment. BTDQ was very beloved among his cast and built loyalty yet he made a common mistake of doing/talking way too much unneccesarily in this episode. For example, on the way back home from the team event, BTDQ was seen/heard bragging in the van about how "everyone knows he's a faithful and no one think he's a traitor", or his statement about "how the guys who just joined might be a traitor" or how he was seen disencouraging Ciara during stone head team event by saying "dont worry about getting your shield because EVERYONE thinks you are a traitor." In order words, he did way too much unnecessary talking in this episode. Rob wouldve never gone after him until he indirectly accused the "new guys" of being potential traitors. BTDQ didnt even need to add suspicion to three guys who just joined the cast because Ciara and Nikki were already gaining suspicion and were likely to get banished. BTDQ should've waited until after Ciara and/or Nikki were banished before he aimed suspicion towards the "new guys." At tonight's Round Table, as a response to Rob's accusation towards, BTDQ shouldve responded by pointing out that it was Rob who sprearheaded the banishment of Tony who ended up being a faithful. BTDQ previously voted for Ivar two weeks in a row and has never officially banished a faithful, unlike Rob who voted out Tony & Tony seemed most betrayed by Rob than anyone else in the house. BTDQ should've also pointed out how Rob was rejected by the cast in Ep 1 yet still ended back in the house & he's most likely to get revenge on the cast for initially rejecting him and therefore would be the best candidate to be a traitor. If BTDQ was able to banish Rob instead of the reverse, BTDQ would've been able to reduce Dylan's suspicion towards him & gain him as an ally. Danielle & Carolyn gave away their power by voting BTDQ out because some ppl who mightve not trusted Rob will began to trust Rob which makes them much more vulnerable now than ever because Rob has to eventually take all of his fellow traitors out in order to maintain that trust. I think Rob's decision to take out Bob was a good short term strategy but i have a feeling that it will put more suspicion on him in the long run. The cast doesn't know that Wes is one of reality tv's most strategic and smartest stars so it's best that the traitors take him out sooner than later.
@tribid_88 well every reality star competitor makes mistakes especially of you've been do I bg reality as long as Wes has..he was first on Real World years ago.
Wes’s comment at the end of the episode about Rob’s certainty on Bob was 1 of the best reads in the show so far imo. His next best move is to get with Derrick since he was also part of “the late 3” and to make him aware of his suspicions (remember, Derrick also thinks 1 of the late 3 is a traitor so it’ll be easy for Wes to sway him on this) but tell him that they can’t put the target on Rob during the round tables just yet. Instead, both Derrick and Wes should cozy up to Rob (separately, not go up to him together), and accuse the other person since they’re “confident”that 1 of the 3 is a traitor. So, for example, Wes tells Rob he just has a hunch that it’s Derrick for that reason, and Derrick tells Rob in privacy he has a hunch it could be Wes for that reason…But, immediately after they tell Rob of their “hunches”, they then back pedal and say “but If we’re wrong and Derrick (or Wes) ends up being a faithful, then we’ll be screwed because the target on our backs will become MASSIVE knowing that everyone has a suspicion that 1 of us 3 is a traitor. So if we get that person wrong, they’ll then think it’s a 50/50 chance that it’s me or you, and whether it be the next vote or later down the road, our game is over.” Doing this would motivate Boston Rob to keep both Wes and Derrick in the game for as long as possible if they were to do this- giving Wes and Derrick enough time to really start observing Rob and to collect enough intel to make the case for Rob being the traitor later down the road (or saving him till the end). Ultimately, Wes knows Rob is a traitor, and Derrick knows that 1 of the 3 late arrivals is a Traitor (so either Wes or Rob). If Wes convinces Derrick about this, which I believe he will, they could be dangerous together if they play it right and don’t play the hand too soon.
oh you bet your ass I WILL be up in Bobs patreon telling him to come do an interview!!! I need this audience to get the real tea of what went down hahah
@@nafiyy77 Wes has already sussed him out. Rob is gone next. Everyone's going to remember that Bob voted for him, and that Rob was whispering Bob's name to everyone. How convenient he takes out a traitor. This is traitor v traitor and the other traitors now have no reason to trust him. Foolish, but everyone's playing pretty badly except for Carolyn.
@drewroddyWhen you say majority who are you referring to? The people who are on to Rob are gamers. Two of which are also traitors.Wes and Derek likely suspected Rob was a traitor before this round table. The majority of the faithful think Rob’s a hero. If a move is made against him by say Wes, in order for it to work he’s going to need to have built enough social capital with the other faithfuls that I’m not convinced Wes has gained yet. Rob just helped the faithfuls banish a traitor. Wes accused Nikki Bella of being a traitor. As a faithful you could easily look at Wes and ask why are you targeting the one guy that helped us get a traitor. And it’s not like Wes can say if I was a traitor I would’ve murdered him because Rob has a shield. Getting rid of Rob is not going to be as simple as people are thinking especially next episode.
Wes vs Rob is a reality tv comp showdown I would never have expected to get a couple of years ago. This show is like a crossover comic book or a reality tv multiverse
Rob is very short sighted. Playing like this doesn't work in the Traitors. He's already a big name, is now the only male Survivor player left, and now has drawn significant attention for being so confident out of nowhere about Bob. He's shown Danielle and Carolyn that he could turn on either of them at any point. Danielle is livid and Carolyn is frustrated beyond belief of not being listened to and not having control. The only way I foresee this being successful is if this season just becomes a bro show or if there are major alliances formed to turn this just into a numbers game.
Wes has rob clocked now and I don't think Rob sees him coming. Wes has been on a lot of the challenge seasons and is not someone you want looking at you. Rob may find that out fast.
Also...Bob TDQ drop a crumb during the round table...Bob said something like " I CAN TELL You the Traitors are scared of me." Then Wes clocked the fact that Boston Rob said I KNOW you're a traitor...only way you KNOW that is if you're a traitor.
Danielle and Bob the drag queen we’re doing way too much way too early and these people aren’t stupid but then Bob the drag queen calls out Rob or one of the three late guys to come in as being a traitor is just again him doing too much. The name of the game is to win And who the hell cares if Danielle gets one over on Rob. I personally was not a fan of Bob the drag queen and Danielle disregarding everything that Carolyn says and if Danielle is as good as she thinks she is, she might want to start playing a better game instead of worrying about Rob.
Boston Rob is playing a role. I'm not even convinced that he actually wants to win vs. make a splash. Splash means more public awareness, more appearance fees, etc.
This is why you really should at least watch these shows a bit before you go on them. Rob literally made every single mistake in the book tonight. He won the battle but will inevitably lose the war. At least there was some sus on Bob beforehand, so it's not AS bad as some Traitors who unrealistically nailed their targets based on little evidence in a way where the confidence only works if you know 100% that they're a traitor, but he even went so far to do the 'if I'm wrong, vote for me' thing that always gets the traitor that gets their partner out banished shortly thereafter. If I'm a faithful, I'm making absolutely no guarantees like that because how could I possibly be 100% sure?
I think he honestly just wanted to get Bob out first. The theory of the new guys was likely circulating anyway, but Bob pushing it, when they eventually vote for Wes and he is faithful, there’s only 2 shots left to take after. Rob couldn’t really not see it as a threat. He’d rather go down being too aggressive than let Bob get him.
When Rob lead the charge in getting Bob out. I knew he would expose himself and just watching Wes from the challenge,I knew he would clock it. I thought Efron would clock him after the round table too but Rob came in to stroke his ego. So he’s on cloud nine, idk if he is coming back down to reality. 😂
So far, I think Survivors make my favorite traitors, but folks from the Challenge make the most interesting faithfuls (or maybe I'm just obsessed with Wes😂)
I think from BRob's perspective...if Derrick or Wes gets banished (or murdered by the other Traitors) *and* the narrative is that one of the cage boys is a Traitor, it narrows it down to a 50/50 shot that BRob is a Traitor.
There’s so many psychological layers to the game players that advance the plot of the show. Rob is smart enough to know that at least Wes(my goat)has clocked him. I think because of this his plan is to recruit Wes instead of murdering him. But with that being said I still think those two will be going at it even if they get on the same side. They need one to be exposed as a traitor to get heat off the other. It’s going to be an interesting psychological warfare between the two. Wes was a guest on this podcast so we know for sure that he watched it. CT is his close personal friend. I think especially since it seems that a lot of people there don’t know his resume he might be able to fly under the radar just enough to get far in the game to make a run. In all his challenge seasons he’s been very good at mobilizing people that are new to this type of environment. He’s going to have to be able to get things done without getting blood on his hands and he’s going to have to get a shield or two to make it
Yall forgetting Rob banished tony for Bob the drag queen, but knowing when he sense danger, he eliminates. All you need to know is a little whisper can lead a long way… and no one one wants someone who always whisper…
I hope these players don't know how good Wes is, I hope he can get to the end and win. I believe the Challenge players are the best all around reality competition players. I hope Wes proves me right like CT and Trishelle did.
Yes. I hope we get some more of the women from the Challenge next season since we've already had the main three men. I imagine we might get Jordan. I would love to see Cara, Laurel, Coral, Jemmye, etc.
@ I don’t either. I’m just saying I think that’s the next two that will get a call. I think ct even said in an interview Aneesa would be good. You know who would be fun though? Sarah Rice
I think Rob could’ve played it off a little, like he was just growing in suspicion about Bob. But he presented it with the brazen certainty of a man with actual intel and Wes clocked it. I feel like Danielle will be Rob’s undoing and they’ll have to start recruiting in new traitors. I want to see how Dylan would play as a traitor!
There was a HUGE missed opportunity for all 4 Survivors to have worked as allies. They should have talked about it immediately and should have said, “Look there’s 4 of us here. Most likely one of us is a traitor. But let’s stick together final 4.” - but instead their game play is so bad.
i think boston rob, up until this point, was trying to figure out who he can move forward with. he was trying to make it work with his fellow traitors but once bob the drag queen brought the cage boys up, rob counted bob as a number against him. after trying to save bob at the previous round table, i think it hit him extra hard that bob brought attention to him. the traitors weren't working harmoniously anyway so might as well jump ship. ultimately, i think this is a good move for him as it breaks up the bob-danielle pair, he gains trust and numbers with the faithfuls (+ a ride or die in dylan), and doesn't have to rely on traitor numbers to advance. i haven't seen other traitors franchises so it's interesting to try to see a traitor just play a numbers game and not necessarily work with their fellow traitors. we saw this from sandra last season from the faithful side, but it excited to see how this plays out with a traitor at the forefront.
It’s never worked. I’ve watched all traitor franchises. Even when traitors try to ally or play the numbers with faithful, if they are obvious/sloppy about it then it doesn’t work -and Rob is being sloppy by going so hard so quickly out of no where. Even if he goes deep, the faithful will put two and two together and get him out eventually because the incentive for them to do so ($$$) is always there.
I doesn’t work. It’s way too early to play hardball and this aggressively. Traitors is a different game than survivor. Your only goal is not to get to the end of the game you don’t want to be figured out as a traitor so you have to lie and backstab. You can’t play aggressively and put a target in your back. I think Rob played selfishly as Bob did throw the three late entry’s under the bus, however if Rob was smart he would’ve turned it on Wes. Think about it!!!! If Nikki went home last week and she was a faithful Rob could’ve said I think Wes is a traitor for diverting us to Nikki maybe Bob was right. I just don’t think this helped his game he went from being unsuspected to placing a massive target on his back! Not a good move!😊
@@sebastianmedina2223 or Derrick! I also think it could’ve went back to Bob for calling them out. I think Rob was too boisterous in taking out Bob. It’s not a bad move down the line but he did it too early and too aggressively that I think I’m a few weeks it’ll backfire on him!
he's trash. that was a bonehead move... now he's pissed off his fellow traitors who clearly can't trust him, and when someone guns that hard for someone at the table and they end up being a traitor, you've just put a bullseye on your back. Obviously Bob is going to vote for Rob, and everyone will remember that. He's gone next banishment.
Pooya asking how Wes is going to rally up the troops? This is literally what Wes does. He gets the rookies to help him get further in the game. And has taken out legends in the Challenge doing so.
The fact that the Shields only protect you from murder, but not banishment, means that a player like Rob cannot play this hard this early, and win. The Sandras and Ciries of the world will always have a much better shot on Traitors, because they know that UTR works much better in this game.
I’ve never watched Boston Rob on Survivor before, and this episode completely sold me on him. The way he was able to go toe-to-toe with Bob and the boldness of his gameplay is so entertaining
My thoughts: *Bob was going for Rob eventually. I do not care that he allegedly claims the comment was aimed at Wes. Bob is playing a front running game, now being the cheerleader in voicing in front of all that a new guy is likely a traitor. If they vote Wes off then he is eliminated, it’s just 2 more to vote after that. He would get vindication in going after Rob, getting a legend out, etc. *This may actually be my least favorite group of Traitors “strategically” so far. Bob controlled too much and Dani was just going to roll with him. Carolyn isn’t even fighting back much and just giving in. Rob does make a power move when threatened, but he stupidly allowed Jeremy and Tony (who would have been votes in his pocket) go! Now Carolyn is all of a sudden pissed at Rob when Bob/Dani were already strong arming her too. All over the place. Of any season so far, rooting for the faithful win.
Not to spoil but other international Traitors have done exactly what Boston Rob did here and they were mostly successful. However, they did it during a time when Traitors was a younger show and with a cast of players that aren’t experienced reality TV players. I think this’ll blow up in Rob’s face and it’s only inevitable for him to get got at some banishment.
depends how they play. rob's not long for this game by reputation alone, but a smart faithful would keep a traitor they could guess correctly to end if they know he'll keep them safe. i think wes and derrick are smart enough for that. i think that's his path to the end but he has no path to win
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@18:34 to be fair Carolyn pushed back on it and tried to save Jeremy but she was outnumbered. @22:45 but casting normally put folks who make good tv, no? I'm only familiar with the Survivor folks.
if i was in the house, i’ll look out for ppl who look the most tired or sleepy. It’s a known fact that contestants don’t live in the castle. The traitors also have to be up late at night because of the murdering. Someone said last year that traitors had like 2-3 hours of sleep because of that.
R & P I think doing some anti-Derrick bias because he attacked Bloom last week - Derrick didn't say he didn't like profanity, he said in his experience, while being questioned people will get louder and use profanity as a way to emphasize they "really mean their lie" which was a warning sign for him on Cierra. He never said she was a traitor because she swore. (I'm paraphrasing Derrick BTW, not word for word)
Rob coming in thinking he can play a Redemption Island game and exert control but was met with Bob The Drag Queen, got intimidated, and decided Bob needs to go for him to be able to control the turret discussions and the traitors' moves. It's so barf
I feel the opposite. I think she’s going to flourish now that Bob is gone. Danielle is great at the floater type game which is beneficial here. I think Rob is out soon’
What protections does production have from a traitor airing out another traitor after being voted out? I assume they are told they will be sued if they do so?
I’ve thought that too and I’m sure it’s in the contract as well but what do they get paid? I suppose it depends on how popular they are but it can’t be a huge amount of money to where in the heat of the moment it’s enough to prevent that. That’s such a possibly game breaking event that could just ruin the show that I’m worried it may happen at some point. The only way you can absolutely prevent that is to make it to where the traitors don’t k ow each others identity but I don’t see anyway to make that work with them murdering faithfuls in unity
Rob NEEDS to recruit Wes to be a traitor & then throw him under the bus and get him banished. That is the ONLY way he can clear his name to be free of the "caged boys" narrative. If he can pull this off - he wins the season no question.
Also, Bob the DQ has clearly never seen Zac Efron in "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile" where he played Ted Bundy. He might not wanna mess with the guy!
I love Bob and I’m a huge fan of his, but he made plenty of mistakes. However, I don’t agree with how disrespectful Rob was of Bob by calling him “the drag queen”. You two are my favorite reviewers of traitors by the way! ❤
Is it just me or is there a weird visual/lighting effect in the confessionals this season? Everyone looks like they are under water or something with glowing eyes and teeth. It’s making people look weird.
Meta Gaming this Traitors show keeps me both worried and excited at the same time (tbh want to see this happen). I wonder if producers would either not tolerate it or just heavily lean on it and form a narrative from there. Like what if the conversations are about meta gaming Genders on traitors (is it all women? or 2F 1M ?), alliances (survivor/bravo/big brother) and voting blocks; Vote a survivor player this round regardless just to lower the numbers, then next week vote from big brother, etc.... and you can control and navigate that if you got the numbers like literally you can do it. With these conversations and meta gaming you will lose the traitors-faithful narrative and would inevitably be like a big brother/survivor game show instead
So sad to see Jeremy leave so early. Since Episode 1, both Danielle & Bob The Drag Queen were drawing attention to themselves by talking way too much. I believe Bob created his own demise & Danielle needs to be careful because the same can happen to her in this game. Boston Rob is definitely a legend! Rob is a strategic player, regardless of the game (ex. DONDI, Survivor, etc.) and Danielle needs to be more strategic & less of an emotional player.Wes is coming for Boston Rob & others may start calling Boston Rob "A Traitor" soon enough...We will see how he handles it on the next upcoming episodes.
he's next. everyone knows that when someone comes that hard for an eventual traitor, and the traitor then goes after you, it's a traitor v traitor situation. Wes has already sussed it, plus Carolyn and Danielle now know that Rob will sell them out the first chance he gets, so they have to band together to nuke him. This was foolhardy. He's gonna have traitors and faithfuls coming for him.
Never claim you are 100 percent certain someone is a traitor and offer for faithfuls to vote you off if you’re wrong this early with very little evidence (a real faithful wouldn’t act with such certainty in those conditions). It is so suspect! Rob won this battle but he’s not winning the war because he fought too hard too early.
In a vacuum I think this is one of b robs most impressive moves. But if I was a faithful I’d be gunning after anyone who is spearheading the effort to successfully get a traitor out. It’s just a pattern at this point and I don’t think b Rob is long for the castle
Rob had to vote for Bob the DQ to break up Bob and Danielle. Danielle wanted Jeremy out because he was on to her. Stop putting Rob down for the great moves he has made.
Robs first mistake was to warn Danielle that she was over doing it and people were suspecting her. She was so fake and over the top the 1st couple episodes. It was a dead give away. Rob should have just stayed silent and let them go after her. That way he isn't spear heading it and pushing for it the way he did with Bob. Some of these people are just too $tupid and gullible. They have the worst reads. Jeremy clocked Danielle over doing things and suspected her. Dylan suspected Bob cuz he's always so overbearing about everything and attacking anyone who says his name. All the other chuckle heads suspected those insignificant girls for the dummest reasons. I think Rob put a nail in his own coffin going that hard against Bob. He should have just let Danielle and Bob bury themselves. Rob isn't going to split the money at the end with 3 other people so it made no sense that Rob risked his game to protect a terrible player like Danielle. And i like Danielle. She's the best big brother player to never have won. But she's a horrible traitor.
I hate saying this but Wes could win this. I personally hate how cocky and arrogant he is but one thing he is good at is questioning everything. Hope Rob doesn’t discover he’s on his trail though.
I gotta be honest. I'm not a fan of drag queens in general, but I enjoyed Bob the Drag Queen in general. The Rob vs Bob shouting match was must watch TV. Also, I felt so bad for Bob Harper when he was struggling with the challenge.
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Rob's biggest mistake was saying "If its not Bob, vote for me" Boston Rob would NEVER throw himself on a grenade like that....if I heard that at the round table, Id immediately clock Rob and Bob the Drag Queen as confirmed Traitors
Yeah, saying you know for certain who a traitor is means you're a traitor, full stop. The faithfuls are going to do the same calculus they did last year when Dan called out Phaedra. "why would you take such a big swing if you weren't 100% sure? only traitors can be 100% sure."
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that's why you cant be on these shows. you are just too good and for sure will win these games!
rob was just looking for any excuse to throw a traitor under the bus
Boston Rob is next. I hope they recruit Robyn Dixon as a traitor
Look Poor Boston Rob!
He didn’t have that mistake but Sir Efron making Rob throw and catch.
He told him go for Bob the drag queen and he sat there like a pup looking dumbfounded
The whole time I was watching the episode I was like “I CANT WAIT TO SEE WHAT ROB AND POOYAH SAY!”
Thank you, QT
"Oh lord not Ekin-Su" vibes the entire episode
😂😂😂😂 not Ekin-Su, Not Ekin-Su lol
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Rob's decision to take out Bob was a good short term strategy but not a good long term strategy. He's about to repeat the same error as Dan did last season.
If they do get Rob out next, Carolyn will be completely safe because the survivor traitor box will be checked
I disgree that this was a masterful move made by Rob. Rob is similar to Cirie in that he's willing to go with the flow until things don't go his way. But when Cirie locks in, she's very subtle. She never pissed off any of the other traitors. I really don't think it was worth it for Rob, especially when you now have Danielle mad at you and Carolyn has a very good reason to get rid of you. There's only two survivor players left, and Carolyn isn't the one they are going to be looking at. Bob messed up tonight, and Rob could have easily made this move without getting his hands as dirty. Move to make the votes happen but don't directly attack him at the roundtable.
I agree it was bad to do . . . but if he did nit attack, Bob was not going home.
*not
I would agree! To his strategic detriment, Bob has a lot more ego than Cirie. Too much to pull this off with the savvy comp folks-seems to be effective enough with non-reality comp ppl (thinking here and when comparing redemption island to winners at war)
Yea Rob forced this move when it wasn’t even necessary for him
Rob said he "shouldn't battle Bob at the roundtable" because it would alienate Carolyn and Danielle and that he'd "use the work [he's] done outside of the roundtable to blindside Bob".
Then he battled Bob at the roundtable and alienated Carolyn and Danielle.
That move is going to prove to be incredibly shortsighted for him.
I agree with Pooya, killing Jeremy and then going after Bob were just two terrible game moves by Rob. It made for great television, but I don't see his path forward.
Killing Jeremy makes it look like non gamer types are in the turret, especially after he went after Bob.
This can now be looked as Rob being worried seeing a survivor player voted out, and needing to get Bob a traitor before he can murder him, and it would make his actions looks rational.
Now he has complete control in the turret and over the murders, which is what you want.
I think he overcooked it with being 100% Bob was a traitor, but I can see why, Bob had a lot of pull.
That looked suspicious.
If this were a civillian season then bussing a traitor like this would probably work better - we saw this with Sam in TTAU2. But I think this crop of players is smarter than that, and Derrick/Wes should both be able to see Rob's game fully exposed now.
@@aurei44You have Danielle confused with someone else if you think she's going to let Rob run the traitors/turret.
Wes vs Rob could be insane
Like King Kong vs Godzilla level.
I think that’s the intent of the producers. They wanted at least two of the three late entrants to come for eachother
Another good episode for my girl Carolyn. I still don't like the way folks are treating her, but so much of this can positively play into her hand so I'm happy.
Yes! The best part of the season is watching Carolyn stay completely outside of suspicion because all the other traitors are being so crazy. The best possible ending to this season is Carolyn winning the whole thing because no one suspects her.
Carolyn can win this show by literally doing nothing. No one will ever suspect her and I don’t see anyone doing a traitor on traitor banishment on her
@@mnwild62 It would be glorious 🤣
She's been right about every single move and every single warning she's given,
but it doesn't matter, because Bob is gonna reflect back on Rob, Jeremy is gonna come back on Danielle, she's been trying to be cautious in protecting them with the aftermath of their moves and setting themselves up to protect the traitors, but they haven't bothered to listen to her
She's gonna win
Wes is poised to win. He is the only one in the house who knows how to deal with competition gamer people and regular reality people.
I feel the same way. For that reason I think he’s killed by next episode
He gonna get Sandra’d.
Wes or Derrick as faithfuls (if they can lay low enough). Carolyn if a traitor wins is what I’m more confident in
Wes’s comment at the end of the episode about Rob’s certainty on Bob was 1 of the best reads in the show so far imo. His next best move is to get with Derrick since he was also part of “the late 3” and to make him aware of his suspicions (remember, Derrick also thinks 1 of the late 3 is a traitor so it’ll be easy for Wes to sway him on this) but tell him that they can’t put the target on Rob during the round tables just yet.
Instead, both Derrick and Wes should cozy up to Rob (separately, not go up to him together), and accuse the other person since they’re “confident”that 1 of the 3 is a traitor. So, for example, Wes tells Rob he just has a hunch that it’s Derrick for that reason, and Derrick tells Rob in privacy he has a hunch it could be Wes for that reason…But, immediately after they tell Rob of their “hunches”, they then back pedal and say “but If we’re wrong and Derrick (or Wes) ends up being a faithful, then we’ll be screwed because the target on our backs will become MASSIVE knowing that everyone has a suspicion that 1 of us 3 is a traitor. So if we get that person wrong, they’ll then think it’s a 50/50 chance that it’s me or you, and whether it be the next vote or later down the road, our game is over.” Doing this would motivate Boston Rob to keep both Wes and Derrick in the game for as long as possible if they were to do this- giving Wes and Derrick enough time to really start observing Rob and to collect enough intel to make the case for Rob being the traitor later down the road (or saving him till the end).
Ultimately, Wes knows Rob is a traitor, and Derrick knows that 1 of the 3 late arrivals is a Traitor (so either Wes or Rob). If Wes convinces Derrick about this, which I believe he will, they could be dangerous together if they play it right and don’t play the hand too soon..
@@jaredfreeley8283Wes has a shield so he won’t get murdered and I’d be shocked if Rob doesn’t get banished next episode. Wes won’t be going anywhere
Bob DQ took the first shot when at the challenge he looked at Rob and said one of the cage boys was a traitor. And then he smiled That’s when Rob was activated.
Exactly. The other traitors acted like Rob started it
Well actually he was talking about Wes, at least that's what Bob has said about it after the fact. Though I didn't notice him looking at Rob.
The looking at rob thing and smiling at rob can just be editing
@ he suggested one or more of the new guys was a traitor and didn’t specify further. Rob was a new guy. The end.
Yeah he talks way to much to make him look innocent and doesn’t think about what he’s saying but I don’t think it was a smart move for rob he should of at least talked to bob about it 😂
I think Boston Rob started laying it on thick because too many people were still on the fence, which caught him off guard. He didn’t have a way out and couldn’t backpedal, so he had to push through.
There’s a scene where we see the panic in his eyes. He realized his mistake and had no choice but to double down. I think his mistake was underestimating his opponent and overestimating the votes he had before the round table. He will definitely have to do some damage control, and if anyone can do it, it’s him.
Unpopular opinion: BTDQ can only blame himself for his own banishment. BTDQ was very beloved among his cast and built loyalty yet he made a common mistake of doing/talking way too much unneccesarily in this episode. For example, on the way back home from the team event, BTDQ was seen/heard bragging in the van about how "everyone knows he's a faithful and no one think he's a traitor", or his statement about "how the guys who just joined might be a traitor" or how he was seen disencouraging Ciara during stone head team event by saying "dont worry about getting your shield because EVERYONE thinks you are a traitor." In order words, he did way too much unnecessary talking in this episode. Rob wouldve never gone after him until he indirectly accused the "new guys" of being potential traitors. BTDQ didnt even need to add suspicion to three guys who just joined the cast because Ciara and Nikki were already gaining suspicion and were likely to get banished. BTDQ should've waited until after Ciara and/or Nikki were banished before he aimed suspicion towards the "new guys." At tonight's Round Table, as a response to Rob's accusation towards, BTDQ shouldve responded by pointing out that it was Rob who sprearheaded the banishment of Tony who ended up being a faithful. BTDQ previously voted for Ivar two weeks in a row and has never officially banished a faithful, unlike Rob who voted out Tony & Tony seemed most betrayed by Rob than anyone else in the house. BTDQ should've also pointed out how Rob was rejected by the cast in Ep 1 yet still ended back in the house & he's most likely to get revenge on the cast for initially rejecting him and therefore would be the best candidate to be a traitor. If BTDQ was able to banish Rob instead of the reverse, BTDQ would've been able to reduce Dylan's suspicion towards him & gain him as an ally. Danielle & Carolyn gave away their power by voting BTDQ out because some ppl who mightve not trusted Rob will began to trust Rob which makes them much more vulnerable now than ever because Rob has to eventually take all of his fellow traitors out in order to maintain that trust. I think Rob's decision to take out Bob was a good short term strategy but i have a feeling that it will put more suspicion on him in the long run. The cast doesn't know that Wes is one of reality tv's most strategic and smartest stars so it's best that the traitors take him out sooner than later.
I agree with most of this but Wes made mistakes on HOV
@tribid_88 well every reality star competitor makes mistakes especially of you've been do I bg reality as long as Wes has..he was first on Real World years ago.
Wes’s comment at the end of the episode about Rob’s certainty on Bob was 1 of the best reads in the show so far imo. His next best move is to get with Derrick since he was also part of “the late 3” and to make him aware of his suspicions (remember, Derrick also thinks 1 of the late 3 is a traitor so it’ll be easy for Wes to sway him on this) but tell him that they can’t put the target on Rob during the round tables just yet.
Instead, both Derrick and Wes should cozy up to Rob (separately, not go up to him together), and accuse the other person since they’re “confident”that 1 of the 3 is a traitor. So, for example, Wes tells Rob he just has a hunch that it’s Derrick for that reason, and Derrick tells Rob in privacy he has a hunch it could be Wes for that reason…But, immediately after they tell Rob of their “hunches”, they then back pedal and say “but If we’re wrong and Derrick (or Wes) ends up being a faithful, then we’ll be screwed because the target on our backs will become MASSIVE knowing that everyone has a suspicion that 1 of us 3 is a traitor. So if we get that person wrong, they’ll then think it’s a 50/50 chance that it’s me or you, and whether it be the next vote or later down the road, our game is over.” Doing this would motivate Boston Rob to keep both Wes and Derrick in the game for as long as possible if they were to do this- giving Wes and Derrick enough time to really start observing Rob and to collect enough intel to make the case for Rob being the traitor later down the road (or saving him till the end).
Ultimately, Wes knows Rob is a traitor, and Derrick knows that 1 of the 3 late arrivals is a Traitor (so either Wes or Rob). If Wes convinces Derrick about this, which I believe he will, they could be dangerous together if they play it right and don’t play the hand too soon.
What if Rob hears this theory and spins it says Wes is a traitor to throw Derrick and Rob under the bus?
oh you bet your ass I WILL be up in Bobs patreon telling him to come do an interview!!! I need this audience to get the real tea of what went down hahah
I think Bob will likely be doing a breakdown of the episodes on his own podcast once the season is done
Rob just made the same exact mistake Dan made last season. Bad move. I hope Danielle and Carolyn get him!
No. Rob more strategic and he have people with him. Dan is not, pls rewatch last season
@@nafiyy77 Wes has already sussed him out. Rob is gone next. Everyone's going to remember that Bob voted for him, and that Rob was whispering Bob's name to everyone. How convenient he takes out a traitor. This is traitor v traitor and the other traitors now have no reason to trust him. Foolish, but everyone's playing pretty badly except for Carolyn.
@@nafiyy77 rob needs a MAJORITY with him to make this a strategically sound move, and he doesn't have that.
win or not I'm not really sure
but Boston Rob will go far in this game, he's smart and he will figure out to handle this. Trust me
@drewroddyWhen you say majority who are you referring to? The people who are on to Rob are gamers. Two of which are also traitors.Wes and Derek likely suspected Rob was a traitor before this round table. The majority of the faithful think Rob’s a hero. If a move is made against him by say Wes, in order for it to work he’s going to need to have built enough social capital with the other faithfuls that I’m not convinced Wes has gained yet. Rob just helped the faithfuls banish a traitor. Wes accused Nikki Bella of being a traitor. As a faithful you could easily look at Wes and ask why are you targeting the one guy that helped us get a traitor. And it’s not like Wes can say if I was a traitor I would’ve murdered him because Rob has a shield. Getting rid of Rob is not going to be as simple as people are thinking especially next episode.
INSANE EPISODE
Wes vs Rob is a reality tv comp showdown I would never have expected to get a couple of years ago. This show is like a crossover comic book or a reality tv multiverse
Rob is very short sighted. Playing like this doesn't work in the Traitors. He's already a big name, is now the only male Survivor player left, and now has drawn significant attention for being so confident out of nowhere about Bob. He's shown Danielle and Carolyn that he could turn on either of them at any point. Danielle is livid and Carolyn is frustrated beyond belief of not being listened to and not having control. The only way I foresee this being successful is if this season just becomes a bro show or if there are major alliances formed to turn this just into a numbers game.
exactly. Danielle and Carolyn need to take out Rob now.. he can't be trusted.
It's gonna be impossibly difficult to move the hurdle he now has ahead of him & clean up the mess :p
Wes has rob clocked now and I don't think Rob sees him coming. Wes has been on a lot of the challenge seasons and is not someone you want looking at you. Rob may find that out fast.
Also...Bob TDQ drop a crumb during the round table...Bob said something like " I CAN TELL You the Traitors are scared of me." Then Wes clocked the fact that Boston Rob said I KNOW you're a traitor...only way you KNOW that is if you're a traitor.
If Danielle gets one over Rob in the coming episodes she will forever be Queen!!
Danielle and Bob the drag queen we’re doing way too much way too early and these people aren’t stupid but then Bob the drag queen calls out Rob or one of the three late guys to come in as being a traitor is just again him doing too much. The name of the game is to win And who the hell cares if Danielle gets one over on Rob. I personally was not a fan of Bob the drag queen and Danielle disregarding everything that Carolyn says and if Danielle is as good as she thinks she is, she might want to start playing a better game instead of worrying about Rob.
Dannielle will be banished soon
@@nafiyy77Rob will go before Danielle guaranteed!
Boston Rob is playing a role. I'm not even convinced that he actually wants to win vs. make a splash. Splash means more public awareness, more appearance fees, etc.
He has a family to feed...He wants to win ..
Lol@@annrodriguez2891
The cast doesn't realize that Wes is one of reality tv's most strategic/smartest players but they're about to find out. Traitors better kill him next.
This is why you really should at least watch these shows a bit before you go on them. Rob literally made every single mistake in the book tonight. He won the battle but will inevitably lose the war. At least there was some sus on Bob beforehand, so it's not AS bad as some Traitors who unrealistically nailed their targets based on little evidence in a way where the confidence only works if you know 100% that they're a traitor, but he even went so far to do the 'if I'm wrong, vote for me' thing that always gets the traitor that gets their partner out banished shortly thereafter. If I'm a faithful, I'm making absolutely no guarantees like that because how could I possibly be 100% sure?
I think he honestly just wanted to get Bob out first. The theory of the new guys was likely circulating anyway, but Bob pushing it, when they eventually vote for Wes and he is faithful, there’s only 2 shots left to take after. Rob couldn’t really not see it as a threat.
He’d rather go down being too aggressive than let Bob get him.
Rob prioritizes wanting to be the last survivor instead of winning Traitors.
The key is Wes and Derrick figuring out Rob without being murdered and banished
Derrick is coming for Rockin’ Rob! His name is Sam…
14:46 I am SOOOOO impressed by Dylan! He is soooooo intelligent and intuitive 🙏🏿 ahh chefs kiss
When Rob lead the charge in getting Bob out. I knew he would expose himself and just watching Wes from the challenge,I knew he would clock it. I thought Efron would clock him after the round table too but Rob came in to stroke his ego. So he’s on cloud nine, idk if he is coming back down to reality. 😂
He's gotta talk to Wes
I think he can see the reality of what's there down the line
So far, I think Survivors make my favorite traitors, but folks from the Challenge make the most interesting faithfuls (or maybe I'm just obsessed with Wes😂)
I think anyone outside of survivors and challengers are going to struggle against them. They are the best gamers in every show they are in.
I think from BRob's perspective...if Derrick or Wes gets banished (or murdered by the other Traitors) *and* the narrative is that one of the cage boys is a Traitor, it narrows it down to a 50/50 shot that BRob is a Traitor.
I f***ing love your Boston Rob voice 😂 excuse my profanity
So exciting! I'm ready to watch it again but have to see what Rob and Pooya have to say 😮😅
For the Faithfuls who have watched other seasons, when Rob is not killed, everyone who doesn't suspect Rob, should.
rob made an okay short-term game move, but this is terrible for him in the long-run. he's gonna be gone within the next couple of roundtables.
Great episode and great coverage Pooya & Rob!!
Best round table. If you are not a patron you have to join because the watch party discord is the best! We were having a blast!!
I didnt know there was a discord watch party for Patrons! Next week❤
@ there is. They even stream the episode. We have such a fun time
I didn't know there was a watch party!!
Didn’t know it existed, thanks!!
Danielle. & Carolyn gonna get Rob out!!
There’s so many psychological layers to the game players that advance the plot of the show. Rob is smart enough to know that at least Wes(my goat)has clocked him. I think because of this his plan is to recruit Wes instead of murdering him. But with that being said I still think those two will be going at it even if they get on the same side. They need one to be exposed as a traitor to get heat off the other. It’s going to be an interesting psychological warfare between the two. Wes was a guest on this podcast so we know for sure that he watched it. CT is his close personal friend. I think especially since it seems that a lot of people there don’t know his resume he might be able to fly under the radar just enough to get far in the game to make a run. In all his challenge seasons he’s been very good at mobilizing people that are new to this type of environment. He’s going to have to be able to get things done without getting blood on his hands and he’s going to have to get a shield or two to make it
Yall forgetting Rob banished tony for Bob the drag queen, but knowing when he sense danger, he eliminates. All you need to know is a little whisper can lead a long way… and no one one wants someone who always whisper…
I hope these players don't know how good Wes is, I hope he can get to the end and win. I believe the Challenge players are the best all around reality competition players. I hope Wes proves me right like CT and Trishelle did.
Yes. I hope we get some more of the women from the Challenge next season since we've already had the main three men. I imagine we might get Jordan. I would love to see Cara, Laurel, Coral, Jemmye, etc.
@@balldalt Oh, I agree. They would all be amazing!!
I think Aneesa and Josh are locks to be on this show at some point.
@@bryanbowers5935Oh, I would not like either one of them. Josh is far too emotional.
@ I don’t either. I’m just saying I think that’s the next two that will get a call. I think ct even said in an interview Aneesa would be good.
You know who would be fun though? Sarah Rice
30:39 Love this thank you for the compliment return banter! Great chemistry.
I think Rob could’ve played it off a little, like he was just growing in suspicion about Bob. But he presented it with the brazen certainty of a man with actual intel and Wes clocked it.
I feel like Danielle will be Rob’s undoing and they’ll have to start recruiting in new traitors. I want to see how Dylan would play as a traitor!
He plays too aggressively! I think Daniele will last longer. Especially without Bob.
There was a HUGE missed opportunity for all 4 Survivors to have worked as allies. They should have talked about it immediately and should have said, “Look there’s 4 of us here. Most likely one of us is a traitor. But let’s stick together final 4.” - but instead their game play is so bad.
22:58 Fantastic idea! Love it Rob!
i think boston rob, up until this point, was trying to figure out who he can move forward with. he was trying to make it work with his fellow traitors but once bob the drag queen brought the cage boys up, rob counted bob as a number against him. after trying to save bob at the previous round table, i think it hit him extra hard that bob brought attention to him. the traitors weren't working harmoniously anyway so might as well jump ship. ultimately, i think this is a good move for him as it breaks up the bob-danielle pair, he gains trust and numbers with the faithfuls (+ a ride or die in dylan), and doesn't have to rely on traitor numbers to advance.
i haven't seen other traitors franchises so it's interesting to try to see a traitor just play a numbers game and not necessarily work with their fellow traitors. we saw this from sandra last season from the faithful side, but it excited to see how this plays out with a traitor at the forefront.
It’s never worked. I’ve watched all traitor franchises. Even when traitors try to ally or play the numbers with faithful, if they are obvious/sloppy about it then it doesn’t work -and Rob is being sloppy by going so hard so quickly out of no where. Even if he goes deep, the faithful will put two and two together and get him out eventually because the incentive for them to do so ($$$) is always there.
Didn't the traitor successfully do this in the UK season 2?
I doesn’t work. It’s way too early to play hardball and this aggressively. Traitors is a different game than survivor. Your only goal is not to get to the end of the game you don’t want to be figured out as a traitor so you have to lie and backstab. You can’t play aggressively and put a target in your back. I think Rob played selfishly as Bob did throw the three late entry’s under the bus, however if Rob was smart he would’ve turned it on Wes. Think about it!!!! If Nikki went home last week and she was a faithful Rob could’ve said I think Wes is a traitor for diverting us to Nikki maybe Bob was right. I just don’t think this helped his game he went from being unsuspected to placing a massive target on his back! Not a good move!😊
@@StraighttalkwithBobby but then Wed would have said he's a faithful then the heat goes to Rob again
@@sebastianmedina2223 or Derrick! I also think it could’ve went back to Bob for calling them out. I think Rob was too boisterous in taking out Bob. It’s not a bad move down the line but he did it too early and too aggressively that I think I’m a few weeks it’ll backfire on him!
Yup. Boston Rob makes good tv. Still. Go Carolyn!
he's trash. that was a bonehead move... now he's pissed off his fellow traitors who clearly can't trust him, and when someone guns that hard for someone at the table and they end up being a traitor, you've just put a bullseye on your back. Obviously Bob is going to vote for Rob, and everyone will remember that. He's gone next banishment.
As pooya & Scally always say, if you say if I’m wrong, vote me next. You’re a traitor!
This is why Traitors is 🔥 fire ❤
Pooya asking how Wes is going to rally up the troops? This is literally what Wes does. He gets the rookies to help him get further in the game. And has taken out legends in the Challenge doing so.
Carolyn just follows the other traitors. She never pushes back.
The fact that the Shields only protect you from murder, but not banishment, means that a player like Rob cannot play this hard this early, and win.
The Sandras and Ciries of the world will always have a much better shot on Traitors, because they know that UTR works much better in this game.
I’ve never watched Boston Rob on Survivor before, and this episode completely sold me on him. The way he was able to go toe-to-toe with Bob and the boldness of his gameplay is so entertaining
My thoughts:
*Bob was going for Rob eventually. I do not care that he allegedly claims the comment was aimed at Wes. Bob is playing a front running game, now being the cheerleader in voicing in front of all that a new guy is likely a traitor. If they vote Wes off then he is eliminated, it’s just 2 more to vote after that. He would get vindication in going after Rob, getting a legend out, etc.
*This may actually be my least favorite group of Traitors “strategically” so far. Bob controlled too much and Dani was just going to roll with him. Carolyn isn’t even fighting back much and just giving in. Rob does make a power move when threatened, but he stupidly allowed Jeremy and Tony (who would have been votes in his pocket) go! Now Carolyn is all of a sudden pissed at Rob when Bob/Dani were already strong arming her too.
All over the place. Of any season so far, rooting for the faithful win.
Not to spoil but other international Traitors have done exactly what Boston Rob did here and they were mostly successful. However, they did it during a time when Traitors was a younger show and with a cast of players that aren’t experienced reality TV players. I think this’ll blow up in Rob’s face and it’s only inevitable for him to get got at some banishment.
depends how they play. rob's not long for this game by reputation alone, but a smart faithful would keep a traitor they could guess correctly to end if they know he'll keep them safe. i think wes and derrick are smart enough for that. i think that's his path to the end but he has no path to win
BOB WAS COMING FOR ROBBBBBBB!!! Rob had no choice but to get him out ❤ 😊
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@18:34 to be fair Carolyn pushed back on it and tried to save Jeremy but she was outnumbered. @22:45 but casting normally put folks who make good tv, no? I'm only familiar with the Survivor folks.
if i was in the house, i’ll look out for ppl who look the most tired or sleepy. It’s a known fact that contestants don’t live in the castle. The traitors also have to be up late at night because of the murdering. Someone said last year that traitors had like 2-3 hours of sleep because of that.
Oooh now it makes sense why Rob's left eye was blood shot at breakfast on episode 3
*_Best show ever!!!!!!_*
R & P I think doing some anti-Derrick bias because he attacked Bloom last week - Derrick didn't say he didn't like profanity, he said in his experience, while being questioned people will get louder and use profanity as a way to emphasize they "really mean their lie" which was a warning sign for him on Cierra. He never said she was a traitor because she swore. (I'm paraphrasing Derrick BTW, not word for word)
Rob coming in thinking he can play a Redemption Island game and exert control but was met with Bob The Drag Queen, got intimidated, and decided Bob needs to go for him to be able to control the turret discussions and the traitors' moves. It's so barf
If losing Bob TDQ gets Rob banished sooner rather later, I’m here for it.
20:26 Rob is basically saying "Please cast me".
Such a good one
Can’t kill a cage boy yet
The "next time on" preview really felt like a setup to a Danielle boot unfortunately
we know damn eell she's gonna flop
I feel the opposite. I think she’s going to flourish now that Bob is gone. Danielle is great at the floater type game which is beneficial here. I think Rob is out soon’
What protections does production have from a traitor airing out another traitor after being voted out? I assume they are told they will be sued if they do so?
I think it's part of the contract or something
Like if hey do that, they don't get paid, I might presume as well?
I’ve thought that too and I’m sure it’s in the contract as well but what do they get paid? I suppose it depends on how popular they are but it can’t be a huge amount of money to where in the heat of the moment it’s enough to prevent that. That’s such a possibly game breaking event that could just ruin the show that I’m worried it may happen at some point. The only way you can absolutely prevent that is to make it to where the traitors don’t k ow each others identity but I don’t see anyway to make that work with them murdering faithfuls in unity
OMG that was insane!
Does anyone no what the song is when they are in the coffin please
Rob NEEDS to recruit Wes to be a traitor & then throw him under the bus and get him banished. That is the ONLY way he can clear his name to be free of the "caged boys" narrative.
If he can pull this off - he wins the season no question.
this recap podcast no longer on the spotify feed?
The only way i see rob moving forward is he recruits faithfuls and sacrifices danielle. Makes a devils bargain with wes
Is Derrick turning into a Karen?
Eventually, Danielle and Carolyn, I can't see working together.
Couldn’t find this episode on Spotify
Omg ROB THE BERET 😂😂😂😂
Also, Bob the DQ has clearly never seen Zac Efron in "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile" where he played Ted Bundy.
He might not wanna mess with the guy!
I love Bob and I’m a huge fan of his, but he made plenty of mistakes. However, I don’t agree with how disrespectful Rob was of Bob by calling him “the drag queen”. You two are my favorite reviewers of traitors by the way! ❤
Is it just me or is there a weird visual/lighting effect in the confessionals this season? Everyone looks like they are under water or something with glowing eyes and teeth. It’s making people look weird.
Meta Gaming this Traitors show keeps me both worried and excited at the same time (tbh want to see this happen). I wonder if producers would either not tolerate it or just heavily lean on it and form a narrative from there. Like what if the conversations are about meta gaming Genders on traitors (is it all women? or 2F 1M ?), alliances (survivor/bravo/big brother) and voting blocks; Vote a survivor player this round regardless just to lower the numbers, then next week vote from big brother, etc.... and you can control and navigate that if you got the numbers like literally you can do it. With these conversations and meta gaming you will lose the traitors-faithful narrative and would inevitably be like a big brother/survivor game show instead
Can’t get rid of the cage bros cause it narrows you down as the one who is the trader
I love Boston Rob! He nailed it! Can’t stand Danielle!
58:09 I would call it a cacophonic word 😎
Where is Pooya covering traitors uk?
So sad to see Jeremy leave so early. Since Episode 1, both Danielle & Bob The Drag Queen were drawing attention to themselves by talking way too much. I believe Bob created his own demise & Danielle needs to be careful because the same can happen to her in this game. Boston Rob is definitely a legend! Rob is a strategic player, regardless of the game (ex. DONDI, Survivor, etc.) and Danielle needs to be more strategic & less of an emotional player.Wes is coming for Boston Rob & others may start calling Boston Rob "A Traitor" soon enough...We will see how he handles it on the next upcoming episodes.
pooya you could never give the ick
This is the right move by Boston Rob blindside Bob Queen. Delicious ❤❤❤❤
Rob, either you win or not.. you are my favorite this season
he's next. everyone knows that when someone comes that hard for an eventual traitor, and the traitor then goes after you, it's a traitor v traitor situation. Wes has already sussed it, plus Carolyn and Danielle now know that Rob will sell them out the first chance he gets, so they have to band together to nuke him. This was foolhardy. He's gonna have traitors and faithfuls coming for him.
Dumb emotional move gonna bite him in the butt later
Never claim you are 100 percent certain someone is a traitor and offer for faithfuls to vote you off if you’re wrong this early with very little evidence (a real faithful wouldn’t act with such certainty in those conditions). It is so suspect! Rob won this battle but he’s not winning the war because he fought too hard too early.
In a vacuum I think this is one of b robs most impressive moves. But if I was a faithful I’d be gunning after anyone who is spearheading the effort to successfully get a traitor out. It’s just a pattern at this point and I don’t think b Rob is long for the castle
3:59 COMPLETELY AGREE i have been saying this and no one agrees lol. he can’t win this season i fear
Rob had to vote for Bob the DQ to break up Bob and Danielle. Danielle wanted Jeremy out because he was on to her. Stop putting Rob down for the great moves he has made.
Do you think they will be recruiting a new traitor since Bob TDQ got banished
I would choose Wes or Dylan.
Nah I don’t think they’ll recruit unless another goes.
No. But that would be fun.
Curious what would happen if they chose gabby (1. Would she accept, 2. If she does, do they tank her game 😂)
I don’t think so as they had 4 and I don’t think there’s enough time
Robs first mistake was to warn Danielle that she was over doing it and people were suspecting her. She was so fake and over the top the 1st couple episodes. It was a dead give away. Rob should have just stayed silent and let them go after her. That way he isn't spear heading it and pushing for it the way he did with Bob. Some of these people are just too $tupid and gullible. They have the worst reads. Jeremy clocked Danielle over doing things and suspected her. Dylan suspected Bob cuz he's always so overbearing about everything and attacking anyone who says his name. All the other chuckle heads suspected those insignificant girls for the dummest reasons. I think Rob put a nail in his own coffin going that hard against Bob. He should have just let Danielle and Bob bury themselves. Rob isn't going to split the money at the end with 3 other people so it made no sense that Rob risked his game to protect a terrible player like Danielle. And i like Danielle. She's the best big brother player to never have won. But she's a horrible traitor.
But Danielle named Bob DQ at Banishment hmmm
I hate saying this but Wes could win this. I personally hate how cocky and arrogant he is but one thing he is good at is questioning everything. Hope Rob doesn’t discover he’s on his trail though.
They did ittttt!!! Boston Rob is so good in the game!!!
I gotta be honest. I'm not a fan of drag queens in general, but I enjoyed Bob the Drag Queen in general. The Rob vs Bob shouting match was must watch TV.
Also, I felt so bad for Bob Harper when he was struggling with the challenge.
Yea. banish the following boring people:
1. Sam is boring
2. Britney is boring
3. Sierra is boring
4. Any of the bambis (all 3)
5. Tom
6. Ivar