From a jewelry aspect I feel this software is more than worth it. Even on the cheaper side. The 3 orcs honestly amazed me !! The speed and quality is amazing
Regarding the last pop up when exporting. You are generating a heightmap to be used in zbrush, you are best using Linear as the option as Gamma will adjust the greyscale values rather than retaining the true values stored in the image. This is the same workflow for handling data textures in game engines where you disable sRGB (gamma correction). It depends whether zbrush attempts to undo the correction when you import it.
You could do the same with the free POVray plus OpenSCAD, but those are both "learn to code" tools. POVray can be scripted to turn geometry into a depth map, which OpenSCAD can then turn back into geometry.
I believe you can try it for free buddy... but I guess it's a trial thing. As I've said elsewhere, it would be great if their website offered a pay per use version. We amateurs could really benefit from that... provided it was a reasonable charge of course 😁
I wish I could afford this, but I can’t even afford zbrush. Not to mention I can’t afford a resin printer at the moment. A guy can dream I guess. Blender is going to have to work for me. Maybe I can do something with my Bambu printer that looks halfway decent.
It's a shame they don't have a pay per use side to their site. This would be an excellent service for amateurs who want the ease of this software, but who may only need 1 or 2 applications a year.
Too expensive. Why not create a height map from the object in Blender or any other software, enhance it in Gimp, and then use it to recreate the relief for free online to the height of choice? There are various online platforms where you can choose the height of your final STL file.
There are lots of free ways, and they are all generally mediocre at best. Blender's z-buffer approach or mist-pass approach is similar to most other ways - paid or free - from other products. You get *a* relief, but you don't get a *good* relief. Now, for some applications is the blender approach good enough? Sure. But there are 4-5 ways to immediately break this approach and get terrible results, tons of "cliffs", loss of detail, etc. Try this - put a Suzanne in front of another Suzanne, and use the Z-buffer approach, and share your results. You'll immediately see why Blender is not an ideal tool for relief generation - and similarly why most other approaches are also poor. Relief Maker uses a totally novel approach, a ton of high level math, and a little secret sauce to generate reliefs in a novel way that no one else has. Just try it out and compare the results - the trial is free.
What you've said there is completely true and it's great these free products are out there. But I think it's fair to say Blender is not the easiest software to grasp and even when mastered, Relief Maker would be a much faster and streamlined product. My less than 10 seconds demo was not a scam... it was very real. This is a Pro tool aimed at people that are doing this day in day out and as such it comes with a price tag, though for a pro tool, a fairly reasonable one. However, thanks for letting other viewers know that there are free alternatives available. 😁😁😁👍👍👍
Like most professional products, they're not really aimed at the amateur market. I agree for amateur use the price seems high, but when compared to other pro products the price is reasonable. It is an excellent product, but yes, you're right, not really intended for us amateurs.
@@vogman thanks for the answer. ..even the 200 dollar would be fine with a normal resolution. OR A 100 dollar price for 1024 resolution. Those would be tolerable. If any representative reads this discourse, should consider it.
Like others, I think this is way overpriced. For folks doing the occasional relief, it’s very very expensive. It will also be overtaken by AI based tools soon so a perpetual licence isn’t worth very much.
WOW!!! This is exactly the piece of software I was searching for since autodesk killed Artcam.
Glad to hear it 😁
From a jewelry aspect I feel this software is more than worth it. Even on the cheaper side. The 3 orcs honestly amazed me !!
The speed and quality is amazing
For a professional, this is a wonderful tool. VERY easy and quick to use with results that, as you've seen, really impress.
Very niche product but seems to work really well. Might look into it when I finish my CNC router build! Great video as always!
Thanks 👍
Well that's a Relief, I look forward to seeing more on this subject Johan away!
Thanks buddy. 😁
see time 12:01 - which software can project a relief on a sphere etc.? It would be nice to combine a relief on/in other objects within Reliefmaker.
Thanks a lot vog. It’s always fun to colab with you bud.
No, thank YOU buddy. Your help was really appreciated and your talents are obvious. I'm sure everyone enjoyed seeing them 😁😁😁👍👍👍
Regarding the last pop up when exporting. You are generating a heightmap to be used in zbrush, you are best using Linear as the option as Gamma will adjust the greyscale values rather than retaining the true values stored in the image. This is the same workflow for handling data textures in game engines where you disable sRGB (gamma correction). It depends whether zbrush attempts to undo the correction when you import it.
Thanks very much for this insight 😁
Im reliefed for this existing
Groooooooooan...
😉🤣😂🤣
You could do the same with the free POVray plus OpenSCAD, but those are both "learn to code" tools. POVray can be scripted to turn geometry into a depth map, which OpenSCAD can then turn back into geometry.
Looks neat. If there was a free or demo version I might mess around with it for a one off but I can't justify a purchase.
I believe you can try it for free buddy... but I guess it's a trial thing.
As I've said elsewhere, it would be great if their website offered a pay per use version. We amateurs could really benefit from that... provided it was a reasonable charge of course 😁
Control Z doesn't work for back button? Thanks for the video great as usual!
No... that's what I tried first 😒
Fortunately this software is so light and simple, starting from scratch only takes seconds.
One oddball application I know uses F9 for undo.
can it make a relief image out of a 2d picture?
Lots of people also use it with laser engravers.
I wish I could afford this, but I can’t even afford zbrush. Not to mention I can’t afford a resin printer at the moment. A guy can dream I guess. Blender is going to have to work for me. Maybe I can do something with my Bambu printer that looks halfway decent.
I hear you buddy. It's all about saving up those pennies to buy the toys we want 😁👍
There is a buttons that dors that in zbrush and it's 1/10th of the Price xp
Oh I thought this can turn a 2D into 3D. But i looks like it only uses 3D files like Obj and Stl's
Thanks. Good soft.
Glad you like it!
The price =(((((.
It's a shame they don't have a pay per use side to their site. This would be an excellent service for amateurs who want the ease of this software, but who may only need 1 or 2 applications a year.
Too expensive. Why not create a height map from the object in Blender or any other software, enhance it in Gimp, and then use it to recreate the relief for free online to the height of choice? There are various online platforms where you can choose the height of your final STL file.
There are lots of free ways, and they are all generally mediocre at best. Blender's z-buffer approach or mist-pass approach is similar to most other ways - paid or free - from other products. You get *a* relief, but you don't get a *good* relief. Now, for some applications is the blender approach good enough? Sure. But there are 4-5 ways to immediately break this approach and get terrible results, tons of "cliffs", loss of detail, etc.
Try this - put a Suzanne in front of another Suzanne, and use the Z-buffer approach, and share your results. You'll immediately see why Blender is not an ideal tool for relief generation - and similarly why most other approaches are also poor. Relief Maker uses a totally novel approach, a ton of high level math, and a little secret sauce to generate reliefs in a novel way that no one else has. Just try it out and compare the results - the trial is free.
What you've said there is completely true and it's great these free products are out there. But I think it's fair to say Blender is not the easiest software to grasp and even when mastered, Relief Maker would be a much faster and streamlined product. My less than 10 seconds demo was not a scam... it was very real.
This is a Pro tool aimed at people that are doing this day in day out and as such it comes with a price tag, though for a pro tool, a fairly reasonable one.
However, thanks for letting other viewers know that there are free alternatives available. 😁😁😁👍👍👍
I was thinking a similar workflow with POVray and OpenSCAD.
Price for pro version is now 200 bucks. No Mac though.
Thanks for the update 😁
400 USD for a script in this economy? Sheesh...I'd rather buy 2 more 3D printers.
Well I agree about the printers... I love printing, though I'm not sure many people know that 😁😁😁
Undo button sell for around $198 a piece. I guess that's about how much this product is overpriced then?
if it was $200 for the pro I would be on it but $400 is too much for this cheapskate.
I get you... mind you right now there's 25% off I think... so that's $300 which is a bit better.
FYI, it's pronounced "bar relief".
It's like yer real French, innit.
I take your word for that one 😁
No MAC version
blender is free and you don't have to buy anything.
Blender is an amazing tool... it's just not the easiest software to come to terms with.
tooooooo expensive for personal use. 200 dollars,and you can get useless resolution in 2024.
Like most professional products, they're not really aimed at the amateur market. I agree for amateur use the price seems high, but when compared to other pro products the price is reasonable.
It is an excellent product, but yes, you're right, not really intended for us amateurs.
@@vogman thanks for the answer.
..even the 200 dollar would be fine with a normal resolution. OR A 100 dollar price for 1024 resolution.
Those would be tolerable. If any representative reads this discourse, should consider it.
Well they do appear to be reading these comments, so let's hope they take on board all comments received 😁
Like others, I think this is way overpriced. For folks doing the occasional relief, it’s very very expensive. It will also be overtaken by AI based tools soon so a perpetual licence isn’t worth very much.
Thanks for your thoughts 😁