Sorry for the last minute upload! Week 9 at my college (professor) + uni (student), plus I hosted a philosophy discussion at my campus on Monday and have to prepare for a podcast tomorrow, on this subject. I have a lot of work to do as I only got through the first 5 pages in this lecture, but super interesting, I think, so far. It really inspires me to read more Hegel! Let me know what you think, esp. if you have familiarity with either Hegel's writings on religion or with Zen Buddhism. I have class at 2 today, so I will be prepping for my Native American mythology lectures while you all enjoy this! Thanks!
Zen and phenomenology, that´s an interesting topic. Indeed, I did some study on it. However, Han Byung-Chul has not been on my reading-list, yet; maybe, I´ll now give it a try, although my impression is that his comparitive study doesn´t really reach into the depth of the matter - but sure, that would be a huge task, beyond the scope of a single book. Hearing Your introduction, three questions/problems came spontaneously to my mind: 1) I wonder what vaild informations Hegel could have had on Buddhism - namely, since Zen/Chân was not introduced to German speakers until about 100 years ago. The first prominent "Buddhaist" (sic!) seems to have been A. Schopenhauer, who yet, in reality, got his "orientalist impressions" from a translation of an Arabic (or Persian[?]) translation of the Upanishads. 2) Christianity and Zen-Buddhism developed many different "layers of paradigms", so to speak (following H. Küng´s model, inspired by T. Kuhn). Therefore, G.W.F. Hegel felt relatively free (well, there was some "köngliche Zensur"/royal censorsphip at schools and universities) to develop his own "system" - and, although I´m not an expert on Hegel, it should present itself as quite a complicated one, when one would decide to take a closer look, resp. to go into greater details. 3) Recently, I listened to some introductions into the "Phänomenologie des Geistes" on RUclips and found some aspects quite interesting and "very phenomenologically, indeed" (seen up against what I had heared before: that Hegelian "Phänomenologie" had nothing to do with the Husserlian one; now I got the hunch that there exists some common ground...). My impression now is: Although Hegel seems, later, to have regarded his PdG as at best a kind of "prolegomenon" - his "meditations" on the "mechanics of thinking" (to borrow from the title of a book by W. Rathenau) can be interpreted as "psychonautical" explorations similar to the ones of the phenomenological movement, as founded by Edmund Husserl, - and the modern "philosophical arm" of Zen-Buddhism, that is, namely the so called Kyôto-school. There really seems to lie a big potential for further investigations in this topic .
Thanks for your detailed, thoughtful reflections. I hope to investigate this on my own further. Currently, I'm reading Phenomenology of Spirit and a couple of "introductions" to it - H.S. Harris and Tom Rockmore. I'm just on my beginning journey with Hegel. So far, I can see a connection between Hegel's ideas and a zen, spiritual line of thinking.
@@philosophy_schilling I see. A Chinese saying comes to my mind: "The aim is high, the way ist long!" Been there, so to speak: Namely the "hybrid" subject of a "phenomenology of the world(s) of Zen" can turn out to be quite tricky if unpacked, for example, in the vein of "deep phenomenology" - and there really already exist some direct (philosophical-)historical connections, namely via Martin Heidegger, who obviously had some direct contact with Japanese students and scholars since the time of his early Freiburg-lectures. In addition, I´m also (intiuitively) quite sure that Edmund Husserl, Martin Heidegger, and others shared some affinities - a kind of "philosophia perennis", or (Ger.:) ´Geistesverwandtschaft´ - with the older (post-Rennaissance, modern) masters, like René Descartes, and G.W.F. Hegel. Yes, it´s a big topic, indeed. I hope, my remarks could be of some help, and: Good luck with Your further studies!
My view on zen and phenomenology is that they are the same. There is a pre-requisite to encounter the world as phenomenal, and this is to transcend the ego bound self. But the question of Ego is outside of works of Hegel, but rather a later development through the work of Freud and Jung.
I am currently writing a critique of BCH so you've given me some new info to look into. I actually think BCH work borders on theological writing, especially the way he talks about "the Other." He's a very dogmatic philosopher.
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Sorry for the last minute upload! Week 9 at my college (professor) + uni (student), plus I hosted a philosophy discussion at my campus on Monday and have to prepare for a podcast tomorrow, on this subject. I have a lot of work to do as I only got through the first 5 pages in this lecture, but super interesting, I think, so far. It really inspires me to read more Hegel! Let me know what you think, esp. if you have familiarity with either Hegel's writings on religion or with Zen Buddhism. I have class at 2 today, so I will be prepping for my Native American mythology lectures while you all enjoy this! Thanks!
You're doing awesome! Never worry about last minute uploads, you're doing way more than most (myself very much included!)
Thank you. heart BCH
Thank you. What have you been reading lately?
Zen and phenomenology, that´s an interesting topic. Indeed, I did some study on it. However, Han Byung-Chul has not been on my reading-list, yet; maybe, I´ll now give it a try, although my impression is that his comparitive study doesn´t really reach into the depth of the matter - but sure, that would be a huge task, beyond the scope of a single book.
Hearing Your introduction, three questions/problems came spontaneously to my mind:
1) I wonder what vaild informations Hegel could have had on Buddhism - namely, since Zen/Chân was not introduced to German speakers until about 100 years ago. The first prominent "Buddhaist" (sic!) seems to have been A. Schopenhauer, who yet, in reality, got his "orientalist impressions" from a translation of an Arabic (or Persian[?]) translation of the Upanishads.
2) Christianity and Zen-Buddhism developed many different "layers of paradigms", so to speak (following H. Küng´s model, inspired by T. Kuhn). Therefore, G.W.F. Hegel felt relatively free (well, there was some "köngliche Zensur"/royal censorsphip at schools and universities) to develop his own "system" - and, although I´m not an expert on Hegel, it should present itself as quite a complicated one, when one would decide to take a closer look, resp. to go into greater details.
3) Recently, I listened to some introductions into the "Phänomenologie des Geistes" on RUclips and found some aspects quite interesting and "very phenomenologically, indeed" (seen up against what I had heared before: that Hegelian "Phänomenologie" had nothing to do with the Husserlian one; now I got the hunch that there exists some common ground...). My impression now is: Although Hegel seems, later, to have regarded his PdG as at best a kind of "prolegomenon" - his "meditations" on the "mechanics of thinking" (to borrow from the title of a book by W. Rathenau) can be interpreted as "psychonautical" explorations similar to the ones of the phenomenological movement, as founded by Edmund Husserl, - and the modern "philosophical arm" of Zen-Buddhism, that is, namely the so called Kyôto-school.
There really seems to lie a big potential for further investigations in this topic .
Thanks for your detailed, thoughtful reflections. I hope to investigate this on my own further. Currently, I'm reading Phenomenology of Spirit and a couple of "introductions" to it - H.S. Harris and Tom Rockmore. I'm just on my beginning journey with Hegel. So far, I can see a connection between Hegel's ideas and a zen, spiritual line of thinking.
@@philosophy_schilling I see. A Chinese saying comes to my mind: "The aim is high, the way ist long!" Been there, so to speak: Namely the "hybrid" subject of a "phenomenology of the world(s) of Zen" can turn out to be quite tricky if unpacked, for example, in the vein of "deep phenomenology" - and there really already exist some direct (philosophical-)historical connections, namely via Martin Heidegger, who obviously had some direct contact with Japanese students and scholars since the time of his early Freiburg-lectures. In addition, I´m also (intiuitively) quite sure that Edmund Husserl, Martin Heidegger, and others shared some affinities - a kind of "philosophia perennis", or (Ger.:) ´Geistesverwandtschaft´ - with the older (post-Rennaissance, modern) masters, like René Descartes, and G.W.F. Hegel. Yes, it´s a big topic, indeed.
I hope, my remarks could be of some help, and: Good luck with Your further studies!
Thank you! They are.
Thanks 👍and 🙏 Gasshô from a hobby-Zenist!@@philosophy_schilling
My view on zen and phenomenology is that they are the same. There is a pre-requisite to encounter the world as phenomenal, and this is to transcend the ego bound self. But the question of Ego is outside of works of Hegel, but rather a later development through the work of Freud and Jung.
I am currently writing a critique of BCH so you've given me some new info to look into. I actually think BCH work borders on theological writing, especially the way he talks about "the Other." He's a very dogmatic philosopher.
Very cool! I'm way too obsessed with Han.