Olympic Boxer SUES J.K. Rowling, Elon Musk
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- JK Rowling and Elon Musk now have to answer for their tweets about Olympic champion boxer Imane Khelif. Francesca Fiorentini and Mondale Robinson discuss on The Young Turks. Your Support is Crucial to the Show: go.tyt.com/joi...
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"JK Rowling and Elon Musk have been named in a cyberbullying lawsuit filed in France by the Olympic champion boxer Imane Khelif.
Khelif, who was the subject of a global gender eligibility row during her Olympic run, became Algeria’s first gold medallist in women’s boxing and its first boxer overall to win gold since 1996."
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She needs to sue Fox news also!!
@IdahoO208 Discovery will tell truth..
@@user-dr3gq5wn6d absolutely the lawsuit opens her up to the truth defense which would be proven by a gender test.
@@IdahoO208 exactly. Fox News is a reversed Trash bin.
I can't imagine how cruel it is as a woman to hear strangers tell you that you're not female enough. 😢
Or to be pummeled by a man. That hurts too I imagine
Not really cruel at all when you have XY chromosomes and male levels of testosterone. Some countries just don’t have the medical ability to identify someone who is mostly male but is intersex so the actually misgendered this man at birth. She can go on being a woman but in sport this is a person who should be competing in the men’s division.
@@curt7140 lmao how exactly does a doctor gender a baby? They see a vagina and say it's a girl. Do you think men can have vaginas now?
@@curt7140 you think men can have vaginas
@@curt7140 no, you are wrong. I am telling you that it's cruel.
Our Algerian Olympic champion Imane Khalif was born as a woman , raised as a woman , became an Algerian Olympic champion as a woman . Imane was boxing under the IBA ( controlled by Russian )since 2018 But suddenly excluded from it in 2023 after defeating her previously undefeated Russian opponent !
Algeria is the land of 1.5 millions martyrs and Imane is a free Algerian woman , does not have to prove anything to any one !
She's also hopefully about to become very rich on the spoils of bigots. More power to her.
Can she also get pregnant and birth a child?
❤❤
“A previously undefeated Russian opponent.” The Russian opponent was a REAL WOMAN, Azalia Amineva, Imane Khalif IS NOT a real woman, get it right. He has no business in women’s sports. He can GTFO.
@@BethayaFKL8 10:38
Why the IBA let our Imane , the Algerian Olympic woman champion compete under the umbrella of the IBA since 2018 until she defeated the Russian boxer and was suddenly excluded from the IBA ????? The IOC does not recognize the IBA ( russian organisation)
@@BethayaFKL8 Why they removed her after she beat the undefeated russian girl? Why didn't they ban her fighting in the championship at all? Don't you think its fishy?
To quote Johnny Cocoran, "sue the pants off of them".
She has every right to sue and I hope she wins. They were so obsessed with spreading their hate some of them didn't even bother with the facts
Where you get this news? is this your buy signal?
@waverider9920 because of this controversy, it inadvertently made her potentially the biggest drawing boxer on the planet...even bigger than Jake Paul (Sue him too) Some smart fight promoter will come along, get a blonde Euro girl to fight Imane. Blonde Euro girl will taunt Imane and throw up the female X sign (This might be encouraged by the promoter) & these bozos who tore down Imane will be the first ones to buy the PPV....because of their hatred, they're willing to give up their money to potentially see her lose
@CelebFactsQuotes Discovery will tell truth..
@@CelebFactsQuotes Lol.. you are living in a warped world. Nobody is interested in seeing women getting the shit beat out of them by what appears to be a man...allegedly pending a gender test if she will dare to have one.
Where was all this concern when the African runner born female was humiliated by the Olympic committee.
This isn’t just about name calling, spreading lies, and hurting someone’s feelings. Given her country’s feelings about the LGBT+ community JK Rowling, Elon Musk, and others are putting her life in danger. People will go out and harm her over believing lies like this.
@@justniquol8972 there is no such thing as lgbt it’s lgb the T is entirely something else. With that said I hope this woman wins big in her lawsuit against these people.
*"This isn’t just about name calling, spreading lies"*
False.
- Umar Kremlev President of the InternationaL Boxing association said Imane was disqualified in 2020 for repeatedly failing a gender test.
- Imane's personal trainer Georges Cazorla admitted Imane has XY chromsomes.
*"Given her country’s feelings about the LGBT+ community JK Rowling, Elon Musk, and others are putting her life in danger"*
- Elon Musk and JK Rowling appear to providing factual and correct information.
- They arnt responsible for 'how nations respond to knowledge of the facts'.
@@user-ui5bo5um8m he didn't addmitt shit he just stated what the IBA said.
Umar kramlev is a corrupt son of a bitch.
If she was really not a woman why would she fail "test" years after she started boxing this is ridiculous.
It's about defamation. It's about putting her life at risk. Did you not watch the video?
@@user-ui5bo5um8m "Elon Musk and JK Rowling appear to providing factual and correct information."
According to who?
Even after the Olympic committee gave the press conference to correct this mess they still wouldn’t shut up. Despicable
Since when have the right wingers *ever* actually backed down from the completely incorrect nonsense, genuinely? Like I guarantee you if you listen close enough to this day you will *still* hear someone bitching about whether or not Obama was actually a citizen.
Rowling is about to enter the "find out" phase.
I'm all for it! 😁😁
lol you wish
@@dhritikapoor2897 Facts don't care about your feelings, ❄
@@derekrequiem4359 if she has XY chromosomes and testes, you shouldn’t go to jail for saying it.
@@ianfisch7289 except she doesnt have those so take the L
... good thing the Harry Potter series wrapped up years ago, cause now it's time for J. K. to spend some time in Azkaban and we won't miss anything.
I mean, that's ideally how to do it lol. Make your billions FIRST and THEN you can go around being a trans-phobe bigot piece of shit, because your books are still selling.
hbo tv show is coming tho
@@jerryfox143 Meant the books and films had finished. Whatever she does afterward, whether it be the Cursed Child or raceswapping Hermoinie, I don't care. The lady went drunk with fame, and I'm just glad the main books and film series, along with the Hogwarts Legacy games are done so she can't screw them up or insert homophobic or transphobic crap into them.
@@andrewdowns3673 so you’re a gay racist?
@@andrewdowns3673 lol... they are working on more Hogwarts Legacy games... they were insanely successful
God forbid a Muslim individual or nation can do something extra ordinary success and achieve something good without hatred, controversy, disrespect, labels, racism, ridicule and demeaning anyway possible. Good job civilized people and nations. I saw who you are in the Olympics when and wherever you loose.
The ‘so much better’ Muslims nations could start by standing up for Palestine and protect the lives of innocent civilians.
But they choose to look the other way.
Muslims countries are notorious for staffing their "women's" sports teams with men. It is their homophobia that forces gay men to transition to female and their harsh restriction against women that prevents them from traveling and competing in sports.
Are they criticizing her for being muslim or from Algeria? If not, why create this victim narrative to divide people even further?
@@anacc3257 Exactly. The issue is she looks too manly and that is raising suspision not that she is muslim or middleastern. Totally irrelavant angle.
@@Shawziairum There is nothing good in cheating.
THEY, ASKED FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!
Where did all these weird people in the comment section come from?
It's the shift of TYT to the political center right.
yeah I was gonna say cenk's open transphobia about this specific story going viral is why
Russian bot farms
I disagree with Franny that trans women athletes should be allowed to compete with biological women. I do agree that what is happening here is wrong as chromosomes determine biological sex. But arguing that trans women should compete with biological women is a losing argument.
Trans/intersex have a handful of coed sports to choose from. That should be the only option for them… COED or nothing at all.
It's honestly embarrassing to hold any other position. Though I don't think Khelif, who believed she was a woman until recently, should be put in the same category as a man who "identifies" into womanhood and enters a womens' competition.
@@ayyyejesterdazedcoed is a slippery slope. For example certain shooting events were coed -- right up until a women beat a man, and then all of a sudden no more coed anymore.
The point I'm trying to make is that some people making terf arguments seem to want to promote women but they wind up harming women instead.
@@SashSC"believed she was a woman until recently" what the actual... What are you saying? Are you saying that if JK Rowling, Elon Musk, and Donald Trump started Tweeting or eXing or Truthing that you're a man you would be like "oh heck, I thought I was a woman... UNTIL RECENTLY"
Piers Morgan should be on list
Only the miserable far right could hate on people that have no bearing whatsoever in their lives.
Money sure can't buy you happiness.
Let's not forget the Paul brothers who spewed poison about this young lady.
I know at least 1 of them tried backpedaling pretty heavily. At least that's more than Rowling or the other cretins did.
@@iii___iiium probably because the Paul brothers are notorious for being insincere, corrupt, and gigantic liars lmao. not to mention Logan's got some other legal shit regarding crypto going on right now. if it's him that "backpedaled" I'm especially not convinced it's anything other than plausible deniability 😂
And this is exactly why I don't want social media. Seriously to many people have way too much time on their hands
This is two separate conversations here.
1. Masculine looking women shouldn’t be bullied, nor should feminine men be bullied either
2. As someone who’s been directly involved sports for 45 years, including coaching teams for years in biological female leagues, biological male leagues, and coed leagues…after the age of 15, it’s clear there’s a separation in advantage for biological males in competitive leagues.
The problem here, in very basic speak is; free space matters and people like Donald Trump/Elon/JK should confirm the truth before freely spewing aggressions and accusations, and two, these two speaking on this subject are greatly minimizing the impact of competitive males competing against females and how it does create multiple negative impacts against authentically biological female athletes…and these commentators are doing so with a high level of ignorance and lack of care.
They readily stand up to protect the female boxer from harsh outside accusations by use of words by 3 extremely well known people as wrong, and in the same breath are okay when trained biological male athletes compete and can physically punch a biological woman in the face in the name of “sport”. It’s dangerous enough when biological males are punching each other with both having their inherent biological physical advantages. It’s much more a danger and advantage when it’s biological male over a biological female.
To be clear, I’m not talking about untrained biological males competing against a badass fully trained biological female. This is different. Those biological females in their excited area of sports will typically beat a non trained biological male.
I’d love to debate this topic with these two people hosting this conversation. They are conflating these topics and conversations and are being equally as ignorant as Donald Trump and Elon Musk. They are just doing it from their own side of the ignorant spectrum on this topic.
Oh, and by the way, it’s really important to not automatically conflate disagreement on a topic into it being instantly titled hate. By doing so you are leveraging potentially your own false accusations Sharnae another person and absorbing having to be educated and participate in civil discourse, while subjecting a person to public scrutiny and attacks.
You need to be more responsible when throwing out your accusations and attacks against other people, especially when several times your accusations and labeling are many times frivolous, ignorant, and wrong. They are in principal as wrong as when Donald Trump and Elon Musk throw out false accusations from their perspective. The only difference being, they have a different point of view than you two and they are much more powerful publicly and financially than you two. You aren’t being very responsible and knowingly educated on biological men in biological women’s sports. Be very sure before publicly labeling someone a racist, misogynist, transphobic, etc., negative you might be ignorantly damaging that persons livelihood, public reputation, and relationships falsely. Despite that, I’m willing to risk mine to respectfully publicly debate you two. I’ve coached for all genders, sexual preferences, skin colors, and ages for 34 years. And, I’ve coached them with my interest in their successful outcomes as human beings trusting in my positive intent to want the best for them.
Two things are true about me, I disagree with your stand on biological males competing in female sports after the age of 15, and I think Donald Trump is a horrible person who doesn’t care about this country and puts us all into an incredible level of danger and will finish shifting our country as it’s meant to be, into what he wants…and he’ll do so without any care or regard for us citizens. Which is exactly why topics should be dealt with in their in merit and not done so by automatic partisan association.
I really hope you two would be willing to have a conversation with me. To think you would is probably delusional😂. That said, I’d hope you two are willing to be vulnerable and open enough to listen to both similar and opposing points of views. Our society is speaking too often in their own silos without having to actually work through subjects with people who think differently.
And I’m willing to respectfully discuss any subject. My apologies for any typos. 😂 I’m not proofreading before hitting send. It’s a pain on the phone.
XY chromosomes = not a woman.
I was born with a very high IQ, and it took me years of booze and drugs to bring the damn thing down to a more manageable number. Your comment is epic! No joke. But what the hell was your point?! I couldn't figure out where you actually stood on this issue. No offense.
@@chris55529 He's not taking a stance, he's clarifying what's happening.
@@mojrimibnharb4584 Thank you, I appreciate your comment. So is it like a chromosomal blend of obscure vectors, or something that can not be delineated without Heisenberg's Theory?
@@chris55529 What are you talking about? This can be determined by chromosome test, which the IBA has done. Due to medical privacy law we won't know the specifics unless Khelif releases them.
I hope she sues and wins. These people were disgusting and insane. People just want to have something to bitch about.
@@AFullNelsonFree speech does not include the right to slander and defame people.
@@AFullNelson your a dummy. if it is lies that is not free speech.
@@joannplehn9990It's not defamation. Certainly not when Imane refuses to take a DNA test.
@@vincesmith2499 lol you need an intelligent test.
To date Imane has been offered services of 300 Algerian lawyers. Also, she's the first Algerian to win a gold olympic medal in women's boxing but other Algerian women have won gold in other sports.
These same people would hate on countries like Algeria because according to them countries like Algeria discriminate against LGBTQ. So yea, these people say whatever serves their agenda, and they don’t understand how much they’re hurting this woman and literally ruining her life.
Imane is not a transgender, she’s blessed with extra physical strength for a woman, but that doesn’t make her invincible, she’s lost to 9 women before.
Imagine banning Usain Bolt for being physically more blessed than other athletes.
There were reports about having failed gender tests prior to previous competitions and different chromosome compositions possibly affecting the outcome in female sports. That's why people were outraged. Some took it too far and made false statements but the scandal didn't pop up out of nowhere.
@@anacc3257 The main idea here is that she’s not a transgender.
x and y chromosomes play the major role in determining sex, but they’re not the only factors. many people amongst us in the society were born with different sets of chromosomes and they themselves have no idea they’re different.
if she was born as a female and lived her whole life as a female, that makes her a female.
I’m a med student, and I can tell you that we study about people like Imane in gynecology.
Some polarizing people used Imane’s case for political reasons, and she literally got bullied and didn’t enjoy her gold medal in the olympics, so I hope she sues them and gets another W.
She or he who whatever, so stupid to law suit just because they made a comment online and we call this society democracy???? People wont be able to make comments
How can I sue them for ptsd? As a transgender and been dealing with this shhhht since they made transgender a political thing and try to debate my existence as if I didn’t have enough discrimination with employers especially in bum fudge Iowa with KIM REYNOLDS 😫😖#cringe but I’m so over it and I’m glad that she is suing them! 🎉
I have no problem with JK and her views about women and trans women BUT this is a clear example of jumping the gun and letting your biases get the better of you before knowing the full story.
I hope she gets every penny and makes them make public apologises
So Sad to see JK Rowling is in the same class as Elon and former president Chump. Wow, really sad.
J.K. Rowling and Elon Musk should each be forced to pay Imane Khelif millions of dollars.
@@HappyBanjo-oc3pc billions! They can afford it.
Damn straight!!!! You go girl!
She/He should passed a chromosomes test. Nothing hard. Suing for covering what happened 🤦🏼
chromosomes aren't the only determinant
His chromosome is XY and he's already been banned from other tournaments, just not the olympics because the IOC is anti-science.
Good for her!
Good but now she needs to sue for defamation also
Defamation is part of the cyberbullying claim.
I hope musk and rowling don't get away with just a fine!. French law may not allow their arrest but atleast they should face ban from entering the country and their accounts blocked in france
I have to come to a liberal site to see honest reporting for the first time. I have called out my fellow conservatives for making these accusations that are based on nothing.
What, only Rowling, Musk and Trump? Why stop there, why not sue all seven billion people in the world?
Those are the ones specifically named at start, but it’s an open lawsuit that can include anyone who made, shared or commented under such posts.
🧠💀🤡
Isn’t the boxing a punching game, ms Rowling?
After defeating the Russian Undefeated Champ, the Russian IBA declared the Algerian boxer “not qualified” to compete in women’s sports, with no specifics about testing. Thus, removing the one defeat from their champion’s record. One thing we know is that the Russians play fair and can be trusted, amirite??
Great news .I can't wait for the outcome .
Did I miss something? Who said any male off the street can beat a professional female boxer in a boxing match?
J.K.K.K Rowling and her stoopid Harry Pooter.
@@marcustrentacosta6569 just a crazy coincidence that the two people who failed the IBA sex test happened to win gold medals.
This is called a strawman argument
People claimed a test result said something specific, when it was never revealed what was even tested. Because of that, this woman has been targeted for harassment. Not to mention potential loss of endorsements and other opportunities.
It's a man 💪😮
@PhoneAccount-wq8pr That’s your opinion. But saying a test result said something, and just making that shit up, that’s a lawsuit.
@@chrlpolk We'll find out won't we.
@davidowens1424 Why are you targeting her, specifically? It’s been revealed that the “XY Chromosome test result” was a lie, but now, you want a test, just to make sure anyway? Why?
@@PhoneAccount-wq8preven when pure evidence is staring you in the face you still can’t admit the truth… #weirdpeople
Hate baiting BOTs in the comment section
Were we so lucky that these idiots were unbreathing automatons...
This is insane. TYT will never grow up.
Why wouldn't she sue IBA first? If their results were fabricated? Just do the test and call it a day..... if it's all honest here.
She's sueng the people who amplified the false message to the widest audience, and caused the most damage. That's her right.
What if someone accused you of being a man, should you do a test? It's already well establshed shes female without all this invasion. You terfs claim to be feminists, but it appears you hate all women who don't follow the stereotype image that sexist men have. Ironic.
@@welshgitActually it’s not well established at all that Ameni is a female. It’s questionable and that’s why there’s a huge question mark there. If you are a true feminist, you would be against any man taking over women’s sports and private spaces just by declaring that they’re a woman. It’s a bizarre world when supposed feminists support men taking over women’s spaces and sports just by growing their hair long and saying they identify as as a woman now. 🤬
Exactly. He could simply do a chromosome test and put the results on his social media pages.
@@welshgit He's intersex, so he's got the strength of a man.
@@tscott8518 I agree.
I hope she, Kalif wins and gets more than she asked for.
@@AFullNelson go fantasize about someone else, she doesn't. (well not according to anyone close to her, or even the rather dubious sounding IBA)
She should get that moldy castle and transform it into a livable state a la a medieval knight
the amount of misogyny about this boxer is disgusting - I heard a comment saying "she is too ugly to be a woman she has to be a man" - so female attractiveness is now the stick to label whether females are females
Well analysed.
Transphobia and misogyny are heavily intertwined.
@@derekrequiem4359 yes because it is all about bias perception from very insecure people
So many Republicans in chat, guess which topic is their fav?
I'm not familiar enough with French law, but I'm surprised she can sue for something like this for not being a French citizen. I'm aware of the Algerian x France relationship, but it's been an independent country for decades. I'm surprised she had legal rights over this against two non-citizens.
Ordinarily, you would be correct... but this is precisely how corrupt France has become because of wokeness.
Imagine you are in France. Somebody steal your wallet; the thief is from, lets say, Spain…. You go to the french police and file a complaint.
Is like that.
@@texabara This is one of those "wherein the crime occurred" things.
If she represents USA or E.U she is 300% qualified!!!
The haters jumped the gun as usual.
At this point, anyone still claiming Khelif is a woman in in denial to such an absurd decree that they should watch out for crocodile attacks.
The "lawsuit" (currently a mere complaint) is a joke. Note that she's not suing for defamation, since that would require the claims to be false. Instead, its' "cyber-bullying", which is basically "someone made some mean tweets that I don't like". That will never fly in a country with freedom of speech, like... the USA where Elon Musk lives. Even in Scotland, where speech by your dog can get you in trouble, they won't extradite JK Rowling.
Seek help. She was born as a woman. It's not normal to be acting the way that you are.
People claiming "Y chromosome = man" and "TeStOsTeRoNe LeVeLs" is really 2024's "pee is stored in the balls."
Just stop it pervert
@@1337_beanI agree. A whole bunch of people are obsessed with her genitals. It's all so weird and perverted
@@zbaschtian So you literally think that having a Y chromosome doesn't impact your ability to be effective in sports?
She's gonna get rich off of their hate and not have to fight anymore. I love it!!! The only thing those idiots comprehend is losing money.
And all he had to do was beat up women. Aren't you proud?
"y'know, with all the money we're making, man, we can buy a lot of plane tickets..." - Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
^ look it up
@@BillCarson-zn9gx you're just jealous it worked for her and not you.
@@zbaschtian that is the most nonsensical comment I've ever read. Nice job
You guys are so unreal. It is a very rare woman who is as strong physically as a man. That's why they have separate sports for men and women. If men were allowed to compete with women, women would lose almost all of the time.
Why do people still use Twitter?
because they enjoy the white supremacy
Because Elon-simps still want to make him money.
Actually, 2 Irish female boxers beat Imane Khelif. Both boxers came out in support of Khelif during this horrible onslaught.
So if you lose to a female boxer, you can't be male? What kind of argument is that?
@vincesmith2499 It wasn't an argument. It was a correction. He said, in the piece, that an Irish boxer had beaten her. I was correcting him by saying she was bested by 2 Irish boxers... not 1.
They should sue jake paul too
if you go to the research There is a woman who has xy My ex girlfriend sister Who has XY And she’s actually a full female, born female sometimes just happens in the genetics like that but of course bigots like making this a talking point and every discussion
Liar
@@user-km3pk1pu7h I ain’t no liar she has the genetics of xy but has all female genitalia she born with
Can she get pregnant and birth a child?
If so.... then she's a woman.
Cenk, plz stop doing that thing where, mid video, you tell us not to scroll away, then make that obnoxious DIT DIT DIT NOISE. We’re not childeren, stop treating us as such. Please.
*"We’re not childeren, stop treating us as such."*
Says the person who is demanding we ignore and toss out the historical and scientific facts that validate Trans identities
We are living in a south park episode literally!
All these right wingers gonna come on here talking about “free speech” after Trump tried to sue ABC for calling him a sexual assaulter, after he was found guilty of sexual assault! 😂😂
He also sued Bill Maher over a joke.
You are in idiot the differential is between sexual assault and rape. Which are not legally the same thing. Rape requires sexually penetration, which the jury concluded did not occur. Sexual assault is exterior, rape is interior. It is a clear legal distinction. Only a poorly raised moron like you wouldn't understand the difference.
I hope she wins! Go get them girl
They can investigate all they want, but they don't have the power to extradite a US citizen outside of the country to answer for crime that wasn't committed in another country, and it's specifically allowed by the US Constitution. This is nothing but grandstanding.
The prosecutors are working with countries and local governments that have defamation and cyber bullying laws. They can be prosecuted and sued locally. Transnational litigation is a thing.
@chrlpolk nothing will happen. This guy should be sued from all the women he's cheated out of competitions and a class action lawsuit against the Olympic committee.
@WokeUpOnAlternateEarth it’s a woman. Born a woman. Everything you heard about XY chromosomes was entirely made up.
@@chrlpolkThis lawsuit is just 5-minutes of grandstanding for him. He’s going to back out as soon as it’s obvious he’d have to undergo genetic testing. He did it before when he appealed his disqualification for the World’s Championship, and then withdrew quickly when he realized he’d have to reveal the genetic tests he had to do for the IBA. If he’s not a male, then he should have no problem revealing those tests or take another one to prove that he’s female.
@@chrlpolk sure, but criminal prosecution is not viable without extradition, and what they've done is not a crime in the US, it's so much not a crime that it's constitutionally protected.
I think this guys speech thinking speech should be criminalized is the only speech which should be criminalized
The issue here is that IOC handled it badly and that thier processes created the problem especially when they knew there was going to be a problem.
A requirement for change in boxing rules with regard to people having DSD might make sense. The problem with these type of anomalies in sport is an extremely old problem. However the derogatory behavior with regard to the particular boxer is totally inappropriate. Saying that she is a male or female is not the relevant point: she is probably a person with DSD. How do you call then people with Kleinfelter syndrome (XXY chromosome)?
Good on her, trump started all of this ignorance, maybe she will bring back decency
Good on him? Her? Them? That’s the question 😂
Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman: Secret deodorant
Why doesn’t this happen the other way around??? In men’s sports???
Good for her!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Wow the comments agreeing she is a man blow my mind
Don't often read comments so I'm rather shocked
Any dude that thinks as a man I can take in a women in boxing and win is sadly mistaken
Having trained against women you will loose big time
The comments are ignorant because transphobia is a cancer.
The women she punched are just as disgusted.
This reminds of the guy who asked a female runner (friend of a friend) if he could race her and showed up with his whole family + friends to watch the race. Then she just easily beat him doing a warm-up run
That means he would actually have to take the test and prove he is not a man
Don't you just love how they keep skipping over that part.
Like what kind of clown world are we living in when you can sue someone for defamation WITHOUR PROVIDING ANY COUNTER- PROOF ??
If the boxer doesn't want to get tested or have the test results made public, then this case should be thrown out of court.
This is a waste of tax payers time and money.
Hate speech is free speech, saying something mean isn't illegal
I’d love to see you survive a slander case with that logic.
Defamation and slander isn’t protected under free speech.
@@kingbeef66It's NOT defamation.
@@vincesmith2499 It IS defamation.
Your retarded mind and speech aren’t protected.
All feelings aside, she or he should just use biology and do a chromosomes test to shut down all arguments,then sue all their butts off.
That’s the thing, apparently she’s XY.
Establishing someone’s sex is not as easy as looking at 2 genes. Much more than 2 genes are implicated in the process.
Frannie needs therapy. I say get rid of men and women sports and have one category. Everyone competes with each other. That will stop so much controversy. IMHO
If Lia Thomas really wanted to advocate for women. Lia Thomas would not have competed on the women's swim team. All of this controversy came from when Lia was ranked 412 on the mens side. To rank #1 on tje women's side.
Let that sink in
Good! I hope she wins that lawsuit!
Oh, I hope that woman boxer sues the hell out of these bigots. It will send a message.
I hope she wins a massive amount of money for this
oh good on her
Maybe he does not know about discovery in civil trials. They can demand the tests, even force new ones-.
The only burden of proof she has is that is caused injury to her career. They have to defend the statements they made, with the info available at the time they made it, and they can’t go fishing now that they’ve been called out.
Cyber bullying is a crime same as defamation... Who made the accusations have to provide the proof not the other way around...
if he’s female, he wouldn’t have a problem submitting the test to prove they’re wrong about him. But he knows the truth and is hiding it and hoping super-woke idiots will protect his “right” to hide these facts.
Way to go, girl!
I normally treasure this channel for its 'absolute fairness' and 'in depth vision' upon things. To say that this has happened here is very much a stretch. The opinions are heavily pointed towards pundance, and not science nor journalism. Having watched this clip afterwards ... ruclips.net/video/zinPDyYjFkA/видео.html ... I am quite shocked the tenfold better 'the news-story scenario' analysis is in the ladder. Sane, constructive - even edifying - and very broad in its approach. TYT should be vary wary in relation to not play into the Kremlin chess playbook in this matter (do not become their tools).
I dont like unisex boxing. It gives huge advantage to men.
What if I pit my 14 year old daughter vs my 6 year old son?
Algerian women rock!!!
XY= male That is not a woman!
Or Algerian shemales?
insane How insistent the right was on women being born w Vs no ifs and buts or exceptions until the very moment they encountered iman khalif
Good for her hope she wins the lawsuit
yea.
I think she should sue them and their vile hate speech.
Go do some research yourself. It is the fact that both top two were disqualified last year in world championship. And, both didn’t appeared in courts tell us what?
@johnha1333 no the IBF had a blanket rule. High testosterone you goose. Born a girl, school a girl competing as a woman got beaten by women, CLOWN 🤡
That Harry Potter money will taste so good
I got something you can taste!
@@davidpumphrey I rest my case
This poor woman has been subjected to horrendous and disgusting lies and false allegations, she has displayed honour and integrity and great sportsmanship throughout her Olympic campaign even when she was being attacked relentlessly by ignorant and putrid individuals. She is a credit to herself and her country! 👍✌️
What’s going on here? Biology is science.
Should sue for defamation.
Your Trump impression is pretty good
Algeria made trans illegal, so Khelif has a case, since she is cis.
Great .. even if she's cis with xx chromo .. why is elon subjected to french speech laws ?
Good!! Hope she includes tRUMP in the lawsuit!!!
Discovery will be fun...
5:13 the man over Trumps left shoulder in the red Trump hat, wipes his nose with his hand then wipes it on the guy in front of him. GROSS!. Why would you want to go to something like that?
Wow! GREAT spot! These people are just disgusting!
About how damn time
She should sue fox news too
8:32 Thank you Francesca!!!! I'm a man and this what I have always thought!
In his youth my husband was a very good tabletennisplayer and faced a visiting semipro woman player (not elite!). He stood no chance. To think elite womanathletes can be be beat by average maleathlithes is crazy.
The women boxers should band together and bring a class action lawsuit against the IOC. The only two xy chromosome athletes took BOTH golds in their respective weight categories. The IOC has failed these xx women.
What a weird comment.
🧠💀🤡
Care to show your evidence that they are XY or DSD? Especially as there are conditions that causes the body to be incapable of using testosterone. So you may produce a ton of T and your body is like 🤷🏻♀️ here's a vagina!
We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated." -donald trump
Get your checkbook out Rowling!
Meghan McCain, too. Maybe she will finally disappear from publicity