Gaming with Intel ARC Integrated Graphics... (Ft. AtomMan X7 Ti)
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- How good are Intel's Integrated ARC graphics? Today, we'll be putting the new AtomMan X7 Ti mini PC to the test to find out!
AtomMan Product Page:
s.minisforum.com/RandomGaming...
0:00 Intro, AtomMan X7 Ti Spec s and Features
2:00 CPU and GPU Full Specs
2:30 Counter-Strike 2
3:22 The Witcher 3
3:57 Skyrim Special Edition
4:36 Fallout 4
5:14 GTA 5
6:05 Apex Legends
6:49 Baldur's Gate 3
7:41 Cyberpunk 2077 and Ray Tracing
8:55 Red Dead Redemption 2
9:31 Fortnite
10:11 Final Thoughts
Thanks for watching :) 
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I'd be happier if their product page wasn't full of BS. Also, it seems that the built-in touchscreen is an OS dependent 2nd screen and not any type of built-in monitoring. Spending >$1000usd on this seems to be terrible value. Especially considering how well AMD processors do in this form factor.
Especially considering that this gets destroyed by a 300 buck console😅
I love it
What does the fact that the touchscreen is OS dependent have anything to do with AMD? AMD Phoenix/Hawk point is better in a handheld but certainly not in this formfactor.
@@rgbplague7834 - Separate thoughts.
@@rgbplague7834it's better in any form factor + the new apus are coming out soon so...
Fallout 4 on the atomman is quite poetic.
Haha definitely. I thought that myself
Makes even more sense considering these mini pc's usually come barebones just like Bugesda's games.
Your settings screen showed Resizable BAR as disabled! ARC really likes Resizable BAR being on it is essential.
Does it matter for integrated gou? They already share the same ram.
@@johnlg91 Ah yes I see where your coming from, I don't know enough to say whether this is relevant or not?
pretty sure Arc IGP doesn't need it. All these testings shows performance close to Arc A380, and system RAM used here isn't bandwidth centric for the IGP
@@haziqsembilanlima Close but not identical. Only pushing 28W vs 75W which will make a difference. Then there's the shared system memory which is a lot slower than GDDR6
Seeing all these APUs that are actually decent makes me excited for the future of computing haha
Same it’s amazing how far things have come
all held back by memory bandwidth
@@WayStedYou it's only a matter of time
My first PC had less storage than this thing has memory, and at 10 times the footprint. Technology is wild
My first PC only used external storage(approx 130kb per side of a C60 cassette tape was my choice, but you could get 130kb per side of a 5.25" floppy disk, and later on you could get 800kb 3.5" drives that didn't need to be flipped), 64KB(8 or 16KB was given to the frame buffer, depending on your screen resolution and number of colours used) of RAM, a CPU with a single core clocked at 880kHz, advanced(for 1983) 3 voice sound, a whole 16 colours at up to 320x200 and connected to a TV by RF input. You had to tune it in and just deal with fuzz from any interference. There was also an expansion slot on the rear that could be used to either run applications and games like a NES/SNES from cartridge(it would auto-boot into the app or game if it detected a ROM on something inserted in the expansion slot) or could hold up to 1MB of expansion RAM, which also come in the form of a cartridge.
It just keeps going. Who knows what stuff'll look like in another 40 years.
My first PC had 4MB of RAM and 420MB of storage - and it was a BEAST for its time lol. I miss Windows 3.1
I’m also really looking forward to Occulink testing!
Not bad for such a small system, and I like how the front has an LCD so you can display certain information on it.
Very cool, love the little onboard screen.
It does seem that the port screen printing is upside down though?
Finally, a proper test of the Core Ultra 9's iGPU! Since memory speed benefits the performance a ton it would be great to see some LPDDR5x-7467 memory on this thing to give it it's full potential to finally beat some low end RTX Mobile GPUs like the 35W 2050.
I’d definitely like to see an occulink video. I’d be interested in the dock and power supply combo
A comparison between this and the Radeon 780M/680M would be amazing
Yeah will do!
Really cool
Nice little thing! I dig these so much! I'm glad intel is doing these and is aiming to get small PCs to have good performance
need a vid testing out these new "core ultras"
Are core isolation turned off? It's turned on by default on win10-11 it tanks the performance alot i have laptop with 930m descret gpu and i get 20-30% performance gains when turned off
could that touch screen be able to work as primary monitor for giggles ?
The 780m is brutal. I get 50fps average in Fallout 4 on high 1440p. Cyberpunk runs with fsr balanced at 1080p medium quality at 50fps average and it looks really good.
I am anticipating your Oculink tests. I would love to see one of each attached. One Arc card, one AMD card and One Nvidia card.
Great video. I think that the xe and 780m head to head needs to happen. I know it would help me make my decision as I'm thinking of ridding my desk space of a normal machine.
780m wins easily.
@@MoistSharkoYup, 780M stomps all over Intel integrated graphics. Don't get me wrong Intel has really improved, but AMD has had an edge for a while.
4:57
Fallout 4 on the high preset on my laptop with an R7 5700U and the RX Vega 8 5000 iGPU performs very similarly
One important thing to note: your monitoring overlay is too small, even when watching on a PC in fullscreen, and it’s kind of low res? I don't know if it's due to some encoding and compression that RUclips applies when you upload a video, but it looks off.
Could you retest this with ReBAR enabled? Those Intel ARC GPUs thrive with it!
Yes the weak point of ARC
Would it really matter with the igpu, doesn't it pull from system memory.
G'day Random,
It is really interesting to see Laptop Performance/Power Usage in a Desktop Scenario
5:12 🤔still getting Fallout 4 Glitches ??? I haven't played for a while but I remember how often when getting back to Sanctuary Hills quite often Trashcan Carla's Pack Brahmin would be on the roof of one of the houses or just Glitching in through the air like a UFO.
As you are thinking about a 780M Comparison just wondering for games like The Witcher 3 where you used XESS, as the Upscaling Processes are different for intel & AMD can you also include no upscaling for a Baseline "Equal Quality Comparison", then add the "Upscaled for about 60fps AVG".
ngl... the coolest feature of this thing might unironically be the stand, I feel like one of the problems with Nook type computers is that having them lay horizontally kind of negates some of the desk space you could be saving, a plastic stand to help it rest horizontally is a cheap addition that seems like it would have a great impact on how convenient the system is, I feel like it should be standard.
I know this isnt something you usually do, but I'd love to see how emulation fares on this device
i wonder if disabling e-cores and low power e-cores would improve performance by giving more wattage to the performance cores 🤔
would love to see how stream games from gamepass etc workes. the day stream games start to work really good pcs like this will be the future.
Edit: what target group is this for ?
Nice
Would you say this iGPU could take on a 1050 Ti, perhaps even a 1650?
Please do your Fallout 4 tests in Diamond City. A lot of the game happens there and performance in the city is muuuuch worse than elsewhere in the map.
That Ti naming gives me flashbacks to the 4070 Ti Super
This is unbelievable. I'd love it if in the future APUs become so good that you no longer need to buy a dedicated GPU to run most games.
100%....Wouldnt be very practical having to plug a 4070 into your VR headset 😛
wait for strix halo from AMD soonish, supposed to have between 4060-4070 laptop performance from an APU with anywhere between 8 to 16 cores.
Forreal, APUs that can run 5-10 year old titles @1080p high settings is more than enough for my gaming needs
FINALLY, SOMEONE TESTED THE INTEL IGPU RT
does Minisforum allows tweaking memory settings? Some OEM sometimes unlock full settings on mobile platform like this. I remember some board variants of Ryzen 5 2500U allows ramping up memory settings higher than what it supposed to handle (2666MHz vs 2400MHz, not possible on my Acer Nitro 5 AN515-42)
Is there any possibility that you will test the oculink port with eGPU? OnexGpu or GPD G1?
I noticed ReBar was disabled... As far as I know, you should enable it with ARC graphics to get proper frame rates.
Good to see that Intel are trying to compete now. A lot to spend on a mini PC though, given what you can get for the same price nowadays
4 inch screen in 2024 is kinda disappointing but it’s still pretty cool
so youre telling us everything needs to be bigger than 4inch?
Its only for monitoring usage, temperatures and control basic stuff.
Its not primary display
@@jacobmadafaka8232women like it bigger
Yup I placed a 10.1 inch touchscreen as the side panel of my ITX 8700G
it generates ideas like why have that screen, or will it work on linux, also, how do i turn it off and also why did i got intel instead of amd
I5-10400f and asus prime b460m-a - for 110usd - is this a good deal?
How much memory is dedicated to the Igpu with 32 gig mem kit? Like 12 gigs for gpu? I know with nab 7 its 6gig for 12 gigs of ram. im just hoping 32 will be enough. i do feel it struggle with only 12 gigs. thanks
nice nice nice
These minis are getting amazing
lol, it seems you have not seen what amd is offering, this os pure crap lol
I would like some Skyrim specific spec advice. I have a friend who has been stuck on Xbox forever. He will never be convinced to buy a high priced gaming desktop/laptop and I don't think he needs one because he is mostly in to older games like Skyrim, Fallout New Vegas, etc.. I want to figure out what to recommend that will be a good set-top box type of setup that can play Skyrim very smoothly with high settings. Preferably not NUC-tiny because I want him to be able to cool it, but it has to be cheap, new hardware. Ideally an APU configuration so he doesn't have to be brutalized by the GPU market. Will need it for Skyblivion, so 2025 timeframe.
I have an work laptop with an I7-1360p, and its integrated graphics can run skyrim and fall out new vegas wonderfully.
You can pick up an laptops with an 13th gen I7 for around 850 from best buy.
But, you can get an even better price than that. As you can instead go with an Dell inspiron with an ryzen 5 7530 for 600 dollars.
It won't be as fast for productivity work as an I7 1360p. But if you're just interested in gaming on older games then its just as good.
Strange that GPU-Z reports a 256-bit bus width for the ARC GPU. I wonder where that error comes from.
I'm wondering if it would help with the weird things happening in GTA5 if you would use DXVK. I'm a linux gamer with a shared steamdrive and the fps are (sometimes) a tad lower but more consistent. Cyberpunk's performance is the same with proton as on Windows, sometimes even a little bit better.
I started to play Cyberpunk last week , I was affraid will be "buggy" , but game have less bugs that Fallout 4 , looks great , preforme well , and have awesome story , I dare to say Cyperpubnk 2077 is best game I have ever played :)
It's impressive to see such a small little box run games this good but it's almost a 1000 dollars so no thank you.
Strange thing with Baldur's Gate 3: I saw VRAM usage up to 8 Gigabytes... almost double that of Cyberpunk.
Interesting that this has dual 5G LAN ports... not sure who this is for exactly though. Maybe high throughput security cameras or NVMe file server?
Yeah great. But can it run Crysis?
I think It will run OG Crysis fairly well at 1080p. Crysis Remastered would likely take more tweaking to get running decent but I bet it's still doable to some extent.
Hello . Can u please let me know how to remove Fallout fps cap ? i have an issue where is half my monitor refresh rate. i get 82-83 fps on a 165hz monitor. I belive is something related to v-sync but i cant deactivate. i use a rtx 4070tis . thank you in advance
Does intel have desktop cpu's with ARC integrated?
Rgihd just doing the elite stuff nowadays
Building a system around an intel processor with Oculink port seems silly. The screen is a total gimmick. The only mini PC I can see a use case for is the Minisforum EliteMini UM780 XTX with decent integrated graphics that can be upgraded if needed.
You should have played on the built-in display
Haha I was trying to see if I could.
So I guess it's on par to 8600G with 680M ??
the port labels are upside down that would just annoy me
These are waay better than my 1050ti mobile
No. They're about the same with access to more VRAM shared from the system RAM.
why 1% and 0.1% is lower than minimun framerate ??
Can it play Diablo 4 in 1440p?
not too bad, but way too expensive
Also only 6 decent cores. And we dont even start on E-core^2.
❓️❔️❓️❔️ Each Ethernet port is how much ? 5 gbps 😳 ? 2.5 gbps ?
I have seen someone test 4k high assassin creed valhalla at 4k high, it was over 130 fps
Hey bro can you get a laptop with intel arc a370m graphics and test it
As a second PC this could be a beast
I'd highly recommend AMD's latest APU if you're looking into a second PC with no GPU. It'll run circles around this lol
@@bonniscootor Don't post disinformation. This is an Intel Meteor lake system and it is roughly similar in performance and power to AMD Phoenix/Hawk Point.
@@bonniscootor that's true, AMD makes a huge progress with APU's :3
bit of a letdown tbh i expected more power from the GPU on such a highpowered maschine (yes i know its a intel mobile CPU chip but still) my mothers minis forum is not just a bit more powerfull than this.. whilst propably around the same pricerange
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This little PC is very interesting but for it's price, there are entire gaming laptops / so basically an entire system, with bluetooth, speakers, display, battery... and gaming/handheld consoles. So, this is like a NUC replacement. I like it overall, just not 1000$...
How expensive is the atom man?
about $1,000. Just build a custom PC at that point.
never been this early
Was reading up on Zen 6 last nite something which has Intel seriously cacking blue bricks with some industry insiders claiming AMD will be fielding retail CPU's with up to 256 threads in one die and a 3D form of intercommunication between CPU, RAM and GPU kinda like the Hexa format where the Hexa cores could talk to each other without having to go through a controller to path the operations and imagine that between 256 threads running O.o AMD is taking the virtualisation into a new dimension, even the lowlier 6x Zen architecture will make current top gen look like abacus's in comparison, big changes coming and AMD are looking into whether GPU's should be a de facto part of a CPU and do away with discrete cards altogether something that started with the mining crisis leaving many computer owners scrabbling in the dirt for decent graphics and AMD vowed this won't happen again so it may well be AMD owners in time will simply lose the expensive quickly obsolete video cards in favour of an all in one on a CPU.
It has great specs,but the price is way too much for something like this.A laptop at that price can totally destroy it and for portability we have handled PCs that do incredibly well at a lower price,I think we are at a point where these being ""unique"" means overpricing them until they becomes more common in the market as usual.
But this is my opinion,other may think that it's totally worth it.
Hd 630 vs gt 710 2gb ddr5
For the same price you can get a laptop with the same specs ... So ... All the downsides of mobile hardware and none of the MOBILE. You get considerably less for the money.
You can get better specs from a 1k laptop dude what are you talking about? 3060m would still outperform this lol
@@jponz85more like obligerates this one, 3060m easily triples or quadruples this thing
Hmm, I have a feeling this is faster than my GTX860M.
Its a nice looking unit with a good desktop presence but I guess the user is paying a premium for that if the $1000 quoted below is correct.
gt 710 vs hd 630
your sound is doing lots of "pops" when you speak. Like on the letter P. This is not the first video where I notice that.
Buy him a new microphone.
@@Woodwerker All microphones can suffer from plosives. You either need to be more distant or use a pop shield to eliminate them.
Your ingame captures always look so muted for some reason I think its the colors, very noticable colorful games like Fortnite and CP2k77 and CS has too much brightness/gamma
I skipped to the Witcher 3 part and immediately noticed stutter, it's the constant 0.1% lows spikes. Unplayable in my eyes.
Just a bit to expensive
I have the fastest 185h on userbenchmark 105%
intel is still not quite there, but hey, at least they're WAY better than they used to be
Wdym not quite here? Latest G processors from AMD have about same figures.
I'm disappointed that intel is regressing. This chip was said to be made on 5 or 4nm and here we are at 7nm. The dGPU is a dGPU, not a modified iGPU like the 780m yet it had issues. This has the specs of the A380 which is very capable in it's desktop variant but seeming to be having teething problems on mobile. I expected so much more from this but as all things Intel graphics, it is a Fine Wine technology. Maybe I can't use that? Fine Cheese? Cured Cannabis? Not sure yet. But the point is, the longer you wait the better it gets. I have no doubt Intel will get all awesome legacy games to run great in time.
unless you buy now its going to cost £1000 that's not good value
Well, a 670 dollar pc that perform in a small sized factor, you get what you pay for, pretty good
is intel abandoning Iris Xe?
The newer intel CPUs have Arc Xe graphics, so just the Xe iGPU family slowly getting more advanced. I assume due to both using the Xe cores they most likely will both get the same amount of driver support.
@@f0x4nn3 thank you!
Intel 2014 ten years ago launched intel core series the 5th generation i5 5200U is whta i had with intel hd 5500 it could barely play games from that era and fast foward ten years later this integrated graphics are more powerful then dedicated ones
2:11 : ehmmm , why ReBar is disabled ? was it disabled by default🤔 ?
According to Intel statements ARC GPUs should have always ReBar enabled , otherwise they lose performance ,at least for their discrete ARC GPUs …
How exactly do you expect an igpu to share it's nonexistent vram with the cpu? It uses ram so it obviously wouldn't do anything...
rebar to share its memory with what? it already uses the only memory on the system with RAM
For this price..this is just meh , you need buy monitor etc , but laptop outofbox you can use
Mhm I still dont understand why this thing exist. its priced around 1k euros... For the same price u get a Laptop with same or way better specs, + Monitor + Keyboard...
1000 dollars and its integrated graphics? The least they could of did was add a laptop gpu
Why 0.1% so low everywhere... this smells like stutters all over.
Sponsored by AtomMan?
Atomman is such a freaking bad name it is painful. But hey its a beast
Integrated graphics have sure come a long way, give it a couple more years and I think you'll see external GPUs starting to come down in price just to compete.
Compared to AMD counterpart this is bad....
Keep seeing stutters.
this is an ad video
I doubt that Steve gives me a thumbs up.