@@uxie6177not like rush lost 50 percent of his first army while killing no lurker, then moves out with a shit army instead of reconsolidating lmao stay mad tesagi abusers
I feel like Rush's vessel control was actually really really good this round. Normally we see TvZ with a bunch of vessels getting plagued and miscontrolled into death. But rush really was on point and didn't let his vessels die needlessly.
Rush was undoubtedly the mechanically superior player. Any game where Soulkey didn't gain a huge advantage via outstrategizing him, Rush's mechanics ground him down. That said, glad the strategically superior player pulled it off in the end, I will always root for outhinking vs outplaying.
Agree! Conversely I often see zergs who have plagued like nine vessels but never actually finish them off. SK did good work converting his plagues into actually dead vessels. Going hydra always helps with this, but he definitely microd some hydras to get the kills, and once built a muta for just that - and didn't lose it before killing a few vessels
Love the game 5 intro of Tasteless in the bottom left and cat in the top right. I love that you two real-time play off of each others words. Keep it up you two fantastic casters!
@@XUndergroundRapits the settled no fucks given bear. They look similar but are completely different. Tbh i would find it much cooler too if he kept in shape ^^
He’s a human being with a world going on around and within him. Couldn’t care less what he looks like, so long as he does a great job which imo he does. He’s a chill dude and if you’re watching this, it’s in massively part possible because of him.
Thank you for the upload. Soulkey was one of my favorite players on the woongjin stars team back in the starcraft pro leagues like 13 years ago. He was a great player known for his steel wall style, but he just was never quite "good enough" to make it deeper into the tournaments. Great to see that he's finally reached the finals of the asl for the first time and really wish him all the best. It's because of players like him and the continued BW tournaments via Afreeca that broodwar has still survived even after all these times.
Game 1 was really exciting and showed the value of the firebat. Rush built so many firebats he had to sacrifice tank production, but it clearly worked. Every force had at least two firebats mixed in, often more, and they pushed a lot of positions that terrans tend to struggle with (like one lurker, one defiler, and a few lings).
Yeah, game 5 showed how nicely they can deny ling reinforcements, which really dampens the effect of dark swarm before the engagement with it even occur.
OMG hell yes. This was amazing to watch. I can’t believe he won. My fav player of all time comes through despite multiple games where it looked impossible. And what an ass beating at the end. I’ve never wanted someone to win something so much as I will for the final. Amazing series
I feel the same way, I'm so elated that he won and couldn't be happier. Even if he ultimately doesn't win the trophe I feel like he already won in my eyes 🥹
The winner played out of their minds. The fact that in the final game, they should have been behind economically, and yet managed to be so aggressive as well as getting such a big army advantage that he had a crushing attack at the end just showed that he was operating at the top level in every way - strategically, micro and macro.
Rush did go braindead in the 2 games before the last one a bit sure. But he didn't waste any marines in the final game, moved out and straight got zerged down from pure macro. @@elisabettajdj335
First and last game were examples of him learning from his mistakes and executing better next time. He was much more careful, used deception when he could, and planned ahead. Also, making Rush slow crawl his way through the map to buy time was so well done. Definitely well earned. Rush played a great series as well
I really appreciated that moment he was leap froging the lurkers. That slowed the push so much. It was that move that alowed for so much more lurkers to join and the defiler to be made
Over the past year or two I've totally come to agree. I'm a Masters Terran in SC2, I never played BW on any competitive level and have barely played it since SC2 came out, but I only really watch BW now. It seems like such a more interesting game.
@@yyyy-uv3po I think it is also much due to the "poorer" pathfinding, units will get stuck on each other and not form the "ball" of the "deathball". You really have to position your units rather than just telling them to move somewhere. This is also what lets workers stay alive so long against Zerglings and why blocking in general is so much more powerful.
Naw Rush being in a rush and threw hard, once u get your 2nd valkyrie the muta's are literally useless and can't harass anymore, you sit back get your science vessels and then push out with a massive army.
@Josh-bo8oi SoulKey denied the factory at least 3 times in a situation that looked grim for him. I'm not certain where, but a scan happens at 1:19:30, which is exactly when SoulKey adds a 3rd hatch, something he would know would be a target. Rush has no way of knowing for sure how even the game is at this point or if SoulKey was pumping drones or not. Rush made a tactical choice and paid for it due to SoulKeys tactics.. Am I good at SC:BW? No. Is that my interpretation. Yes.
@@bandwarrior007 Soulkey Rushed Rush and Rush held it taking zero damage, he had comsat for at least 5 minutes before he pushed out, meaning he should of saw Soulkey was super low on drones, 3rd hatch or not Rush was in no way behind, if anything he is still ahead, with the 2 valks and 2 CC's he can easily replenish his mineral lines and be looking to get a 3rd base soon with the Muta's now pretty much useless. No there is really no reason why he HAS to push right then and kill Soulkey, he got antsy and he paid for it. The smart play is to wait for a science vessel and play out a longer game, period end of story, and this game is a perfect example of why you wait for that science vessel, hold position lurkers ending your tournament as this was the swing game. Rush won all of the games that went long too so I really don't know why he rushed out in this instance, was really such a big throw.
Love you guys. This has been a really sick ASL. You guys can do whatever you want with the production as long as we get to keep you guys casting these high level games.
2-3 have been good. rest between bad and mediocre. compared to most seasons this one's been pretty poor, so far. last season was at least as bad, though. most recent ones just have been the worst i can remember. i'm glad that others think them good, though @@Strohseph
i can't believe how good they've gotten at BW. that game 7 was insane. even though soulkey kept it hidden, rush was fast enough to pop out the marines, stim them, and throw them back in the bunker and crush the ling rush. then soulkey comes back like 2 mins later with defiler/lurker/guarian. what did i watch
Its so amazing seeing soulkey using the fact that you can start the greater spire but if you engage with your mutas and they die no worries just cancel it. Great tactic!
Soulkey is like Goku likes to take a beat up first to warm up than takes off his facemask like Goku takes off his heavy clothes and start kicking butts lol.
So I accidentally clicked on the finals match vod before watching this one (Not a complaint comment, I know I'm late and I know it was my mistake). As soon as I realized what I had done I clicked out of it but I had already seen the names of the finalists. Now, given I knew the result of this match color me completely surprised by how this match actually unfolded. What an absolutely stunning series.
1:52 ish discussing Scouts and "the most unique situation" - one of my favorite games ever Kal vs ForGG on Colosseum. That was like KESPA days but I recommend it. Also 152:30 should be on some pimpest play video. That control to target like that...
I think the Caster Park interviews are where I miss the subtitles the most. They are usually so funny, but with them being dubbed over it doesn't have the same appeal.
Soulkey has got to be the clutchest SC player in history LOL I still remember his 0-3 comeback in SC2 and he just keeps coming back from these losing positions.
Please consider that Tasteless sometimes has a "coded" voice, example look speech of Tasteless at the beginning of last game. Thanks a lot for your work!
Spoilers That last game looked absolutely wild to me, how in the world did SoulKey have that many lurkers all of a sudden and Guardians on top of that! I can't even keep up while watching the games, how these guys are able to play this fast is beyond me, love to see it.
I know this will hurt arty but i thank the COSMOS its not going to be another terran victory lol. I love terran,,,but seeing terran win the last 4 ASL im just so glad its gonna be zerg or protoss now :D
It felt like in game one muta should've done much more dmg in that position. I didn't expect Rush to handle it so gracefully after a completely failed start (some would've gg'd in that case).
I am a bit surprised that our hosts were not aware of the most likely reason Invader was picked by Soulkey, until the semi-finals started, no zerg had lost to either race on that map this season! Ten times a zerg had played on the map, all 10 times zerg won (and yes I am cheating a little with my stats since 3 of those were a zvz).
Yeah, as I mentioned in the comments last video Invader is Zerg's best map this season, probably followed by Retro (7-2 now). Though according to my stats, Zerg has only played on the map 9 times: 3 times vT, 3 times vP and 3 times vZ.
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It's insane how good this is. ASL is digital gold! What a fantastic match series!
This is the real deal, no way this could be replayed.
That series was beyond any of my expectations. Incredible. Wow!
That last game was amazing. The micro and tactics was just outstanding.
An absolute ass beating in the last minute out of nowhere!
It's pretty crazy how Zerg can transition through failed kill moves into a strong macro game.
@@uxie6177he made it look way too easy. Most Zergs can’t throw away an attack and then macro up
@@uxie6177not like rush lost 50 percent of his first army while killing no lurker, then moves out with a shit army instead of reconsolidating lmao stay mad tesagi abusers
The round of 4 brings joy, and a sense of dread. We all celebrate yet accept our longing for it to return.
May the warriors express humility in victory and resiliency in defeat. For these opportunities shall be cherished, and never presumed.
Amen
I feel like Rush's vessel control was actually really really good this round. Normally we see TvZ with a bunch of vessels getting plagued and miscontrolled into death. But rush really was on point and didn't let his vessels die needlessly.
Rush was undoubtedly the mechanically superior player. Any game where Soulkey didn't gain a huge advantage via outstrategizing him, Rush's mechanics ground him down. That said, glad the strategically superior player pulled it off in the end, I will always root for outhinking vs outplaying.
Agree! Conversely I often see zergs who have plagued like nine vessels but never actually finish them off. SK did good work converting his plagues into actually dead vessels. Going hydra always helps with this, but he definitely microd some hydras to get the kills, and once built a muta for just that - and didn't lose it before killing a few vessels
@@nHautamakithose firebats were dope tho
SoulKey's resilience and stamina is UNMATCHED. I've never seen a player this untiltable before.
Love the game 5 intro of Tasteless in the bottom left and cat in the top right. I love that you two real-time play off of each others words. Keep it up you two fantastic casters!
casting's highly enjoyable but jesus titty-fucking christ: toast & useless couldn't call rain in a thunderstorm
That thumbnail of Tasteless gives me joy.
Is Artosis giving him the Benjamin Button treatment? Will the finals be a baby Tasteless?
Yeah idk what’s going on with his beta bear twink phase the last few years
@@XUndergroundRapits the settled no fucks given bear. They look similar but are completely different.
Tbh i would find it much cooler too if he kept in shape ^^
He’s a human being with a world going on around and within him.
Couldn’t care less what he looks like, so long as he does a great job which imo he does. He’s a chill dude and if you’re watching this, it’s in massively part possible because of him.
@@BrolyPowerMaximum yes yes ofcourse. Its more like for HIS sake. You know, his shape is kinda unhealthy atm.
Thank you for the upload.
Soulkey was one of my favorite players on the woongjin stars team back in the starcraft pro leagues like 13 years ago.
He was a great player known for his steel wall style, but he just was never quite "good enough" to make it deeper into the tournaments.
Great to see that he's finally reached the finals of the asl for the first time and really wish him all the best.
It's because of players like him and the continued BW tournaments via Afreeca that broodwar has still survived even after all these times.
SoulKey is one of those tidal shift players. No keeling EVER!
Game 1 was really exciting and showed the value of the firebat. Rush built so many firebats he had to sacrifice tank production, but it clearly worked. Every force had at least two firebats mixed in, often more, and they pushed a lot of positions that terrans tend to struggle with (like one lurker, one defiler, and a few lings).
Game 5 as well. I can't believe we're in an era where firebats are meta lol
@@Sapremethey’re super good and underutilized. Ppl are recognizing that now
Yeah, game 5 showed how nicely they can deny ling reinforcements, which really dampens the effect of dark swarm before the engagement with it even occur.
1:20:25 BEAUTIFUL hold position lurkers 🥲
OMG hell yes. This was amazing to watch. I can’t believe he won. My fav player of all time comes through despite multiple games where it looked impossible. And what an ass beating at the end. I’ve never wanted someone to win something so much as I will for the final. Amazing series
I feel the same way, I'm so elated that he won and couldn't be happier. Even if he ultimately doesn't win the trophe I feel like he already won in my eyes 🥹
The winner played out of their minds. The fact that in the final game, they should have been behind economically, and yet managed to be so aggressive as well as getting such a big army advantage that he had a crushing attack at the end just showed that he was operating at the top level in every way - strategically, micro and macro.
That army advantage was insane. I'm not sure how he even managed that tbh.
I think he had a massive lead from the openers, watch the supply throughout the match. The lost mining time was a lot.
@@conorcarrigan5543because rush braindead wasted 50 marines every engage
He didn't expand his mutas needlessly (while still keeping a high pressure on Rush), so all his gas went into lurkers.
Rush did go braindead in the 2 games before the last one a bit sure. But he didn't waste any marines in the final game, moved out and straight got zerged down from pure macro. @@elisabettajdj335
That game 7 was so sick. Unreal how soulkey does this to a player rush.
First and last game were examples of him learning from his mistakes and executing better next time. He was much more careful, used deception when he could, and planned ahead. Also, making Rush slow crawl his way through the map to buy time was so well done. Definitely well earned. Rush played a great series as well
thought this semi was a bit lame compared to the quarters.
Effort or Mini will be champion
@@plasmaastronaut you're welcome to your opinion..
@@Seraph318that guy is most definitely a Terran player
@@plasmaastronautwhat this series was insane
I really appreciated that moment he was leap froging the lurkers. That slowed the push so much. It was that move that alowed for so much more lurkers to join and the defiler to be made
BW is so much more fun, exciting and impressive to watch than SC2 that it's not even funny, seriously..
What a sick series, GGs!
Over the past year or two I've totally come to agree. I'm a Masters Terran in SC2, I never played BW on any competitive level and have barely played it since SC2 came out, but I only really watch BW now. It seems like such a more interesting game.
Part of it is explained by Tasteless at 1:53:26
Having small control groups prevents deathballs, and makes the battles more spread and last longer.
Yes and way more positional because units are less responsive, which means more strategy-oriented. @@yyyy-uv3po
@@yyyy-uv3po I think it is also much due to the "poorer" pathfinding, units will get stuck on each other and not form the "ball" of the "deathball". You really have to position your units rather than just telling them to move somewhere.
This is also what lets workers stay alive so long against Zerglings and why blocking in general is so much more powerful.
That was a top 3 series in all my ASL viewing I reckon. Iconic moves. and just insanely solid play throughout.
Soul key is out of his mind! Amazing control. Just awesome to watch. Thanks guys.
Faster VODs is amazing. Thank you so much for doing all of this so we can watch the games almost as they happen.
Finally, my wish for Terrans to use more firebats against Zerg came true.
Great commentary as usual Tastosis. SC fan since 1998 here.
Insane games. Great series and cast. ❤
holy moly what a series. Had no idea what was going to happen the entire way through.
Soulkey played his heart out this season. It has been the best season ive seen in a while.
He was the title contender last season, don't forget.
Game 3 was unbelievable. Soulkey squeezing water out of a rock xD
Naw Rush being in a rush and threw hard, once u get your 2nd valkyrie the muta's are literally useless and can't harass anymore, you sit back get your science vessels and then push out with a massive army.
@Josh-bo8oi SoulKey denied the factory at least 3 times in a situation that looked grim for him. I'm not certain where, but a scan happens at 1:19:30, which is exactly when SoulKey adds a 3rd hatch, something he would know would be a target. Rush has no way of knowing for sure how even the game is at this point or if SoulKey was pumping drones or not. Rush made a tactical choice and paid for it due to SoulKeys tactics..
Am I good at SC:BW? No. Is that my interpretation. Yes.
@@bandwarrior007 Soulkey Rushed Rush and Rush held it taking zero damage, he had comsat for at least 5 minutes before he pushed out, meaning he should of saw Soulkey was super low on drones, 3rd hatch or not Rush was in no way behind, if anything he is still ahead, with the 2 valks and 2 CC's he can easily replenish his mineral lines and be looking to get a 3rd base soon with the Muta's now pretty much useless.
No there is really no reason why he HAS to push right then and kill Soulkey, he got antsy and he paid for it.
The smart play is to wait for a science vessel and play out a longer game, period end of story, and this game is a perfect example of why you wait for that science vessel, hold position lurkers ending your tournament as this was the swing game.
Rush won all of the games that went long too so I really don't know why he rushed out in this instance, was really such a big throw.
@@JoshDragRace0688what?? Valkyrie push timing and you sit back until vessels? Lol
That’s called being a Zerg player 😊
I wanna hear a ro4 player just saying ‘yea I’m lurker rushing every game’ in the interview
It’d be funny regardless of if they do it or not
I thought about making an account and just calling it "4PoolPractice" and 4pooling every game just to see how people react to it.
Love you guys. This has been a really sick ASL. You guys can do whatever you want with the production as long as we get to keep you guys casting these high level games.
The player that won earned that win so absolutely fucking much. Crazy comebacks I can't believe it
What an INCREDIBLE series!
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SOULKEY FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!
absolutely incredible series by both players!! so grateful for matches like this
This season of ASL is so goddamn good. Thanks Tastosis!
?? it's been pretty bad, actually. this series is really good, though
@@cl8804 Umm how do you figure? There's been some of the best series ever in this ASL so far. Great season
2-3 have been good. rest between bad and mediocre. compared to most seasons this one's been pretty poor, so far. last season was at least as bad, though. most recent ones just have been the worst i can remember. i'm glad that others think them good, though @@Strohseph
I love the fast release with the dubs, but when it's caster Park interviewing, we should do an exception just for the energy :-D
caster Park is such a legend
i can't believe how good they've gotten at BW. that game 7 was insane.
even though soulkey kept it hidden, rush was fast enough to pop out the marines, stim them, and throw them back in the bunker and crush the ling rush. then soulkey comes back like 2 mins later with defiler/lurker/guarian. what did i watch
Man, these thumbnails though. 2009 was just a few days ago wasn't it?
2009 was 97 years ago..
incredible performances, what a display of courage and heart in the face of adversity. ice cold solid steel, cant wait for the finals
Those games went into such unexpected directions, awesome series.
Its so amazing seeing soulkey using the fact that you can start the greater spire but if you engage with your mutas and they die no worries just cancel it. Great tactic!
Soulkey is like Goku likes to take a beat up first to warm up than takes off his facemask like Goku takes off his heavy clothes and start kicking butts lol.
great series. last game so nice i watched it twice.
Fantastic cast as always ❤. Can you add additional time at the end of every video (make every video 4h long) to prevent spoilers?
Brood War never dies
On point commentary Artosis. Actually I always appreciate.
Awesome series between these 2, Soulkey really amazing come backs
невероятные матчи.Ребятам спасибо за отличную работу
That Korean commentator at the start is hyping it up so good 🔥.
So I accidentally clicked on the finals match vod before watching this one (Not a complaint comment, I know I'm late and I know it was my mistake). As soon as I realized what I had done I clicked out of it but I had already seen the names of the finalists. Now, given I knew the result of this match color me completely surprised by how this match actually unfolded. What an absolutely stunning series.
Inject this game directly into my bloodstream.
Bumbed about rush and JyJ, well played Soulkey, deserves to be there.
Most exciting (and stressful) series so far. Thanks for the cast Tastosis and shoutout to the production team!!!
Has to be one of the best series I've seen in 20+ years of Starcraft
That was crazy thanks guys for the cast
1:15:34 "I think he's gonna gg man" - artosis
I love you man and know nothing about sc1 but that was funny af :D
There was a lot of brilliant side from both sides. Pleasure to watch.
This was something else. This series was incredible. I love to watch broodwar. Its just amazing😊
Atleast 1440p quality on next ASL please. Love you guys.
Artosis needs to buy a cardboard cutout of Tasteless.
or a hand puppet
Soulkey is dangerous by default but being broke makes him a real threat lol
1:52 ish discussing Scouts and "the most unique situation" - one of my favorite games ever Kal vs ForGG on Colosseum. That was like KESPA days but I recommend it.
Also 152:30 should be on some pimpest play video. That control to target like that...
Incredible serie! Amazing cast as always!!
I think the Caster Park interviews are where I miss the subtitles the most. They are usually so funny, but with them being dubbed over it doesn't have the same appeal.
This was peak brood war. I'm a tosser but I was on the edge of my seat by the end!!
Maybe spoilers, idk
Soulkey is such a crowd pleaser. What an incredible best of 7. Im excited for the finals.
Let us pray to the Brood War gods that Mini wins and we don’t get a ZvZ finals
He did 4-0
@@noahbaker-kang5148 gj for spoiling...
@@noahbaker-kang5148why do you do this
holy crap SoulKey is insane :o
Wow what a series. Nice build order punishes by the winner!
Soulkey has got to be the clutchest SC player in history LOL I still remember his 0-3 comeback in SC2 and he just keeps coming back from these losing positions.
The winner has really been playing amazing all tourney. His macro is totally insane . Really impressive stuff.
I love Tasteless, Artosis, and Broodwar.
Insane series! Both would have deserved to advance to the finals!
Our translator did a great job, thanks guys
Please consider that Tasteless sometimes has a "coded" voice, example look speech of Tasteless at the beginning of last game.
Thanks a lot for your work!
Spoilers
That last game looked absolutely wild to me, how in the world did SoulKey have that many lurkers all of a sudden and Guardians on top of that! I can't even keep up while watching the games, how these guys are able to play this fast is beyond me, love to see it.
Maybe the best series I've ever seen
Holy sh!7!!! Those hold position lurkers made my brain explode
I know this will hurt arty but i thank the COSMOS its not going to be another terran victory lol. I love terran,,,but seeing terran win the last 4 ASL im just so glad its gonna be zerg or protoss now :D
volume up on game sounds and music please. as well as crowd audio
I freaking love sc1, these games are HYPE.
When those guardians appeared from the left bottom of the screen it was IT. Some epic music missing haha
Amazing Muta defense by Rush. Great tactics by Soulkey
Artosis, 9 pool is not a cheese because it punishes greed. Terran going CC first is the gamble.
what a series, what a decider game, wow!!
It felt like in game one muta should've done much more dmg in that position. I didn't expect Rush to handle it so gracefully after a completely failed start (some would've gg'd in that case).
That was INCREDIBLE!
There's got to be a way to get Tasteless on screen, get them synced, and release rapidly.
Impossible. The technology's just not there yet.
But then we'll see that he doesn't look like the thumbnail
Yeah, Artosis said on his stream if they make it to 20k/month on Patreon they’ll get tasteless back on screen
@@noahbaker-kang5148 that's the kind of stretch goal I came to expect
@@noahbaker-kang5148 lmaooo... well done.
Last game race to fast defiler & guardians asap was insane!
Did I skip/miss the part where Tasteless and Artosis archon merged into Artosis? What happened to Tasteless's face?
Tasteless mic seems choppy starting around minute 28-29
I am a bit surprised that our hosts were not aware of the most likely reason Invader was picked by Soulkey, until the semi-finals started, no zerg had lost to either race on that map this season! Ten times a zerg had played on the map, all 10 times zerg won (and yes I am cheating a little with my stats since 3 of those were a zvz).
Yeah, as I mentioned in the comments last video Invader is Zerg's best map this season, probably followed by Retro (7-2 now).
Though according to my stats, Zerg has only played on the map 9 times: 3 times vT, 3 times vP and 3 times vZ.
@@HasekuraIsuna You might be right on the values, a bit under the weather, so counting is hard.
Sounds like AI Tasteless is already here. Can't wait for Head-in-a-Jar Artosis!
LMAO!
That last game, wow.
Did rush run out of stamina? Pretty surprising he went CC first 3 times, seems like he wanted it to be over more than he wanted to win.
Absolutely amazing.
It felt like forever waiting, but it's all worth it.
I was rooting for rush at the start but then I saw the 3rd cc first expand I immediately switched side. so glad he punished that greed
Incredible! Fantastic time to be a Brood War fan!!
Why is there no video/thumbnail of Tasteless?
Rush's reaction to 1:20:29 😮
20 supplies going up in smoke in 1 second!
Series of the season. Not even close.
It *is* an important part of ASL to see how big Tasteless's head is and how red his face is!
SoulKey is my favorite Zerg to watch since JulyZerg !!