How to Set Ignition Timing, Acura Integra - EricTheCarGuy
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- How to Set Ignition Timing, Acura Integra - EricTheCarGuy
This is kind of part 2 to the video I did on replacing a distributor on an Acura Integra. Whenever you replace a distributor on an engine like I did in that video you will also need to reset the ignition timing. I did my best to show you the operation in real time but the camera really didn't like the strobing light so I'm sorry I wasn't able to get you a better picture of that.
The most important thing to remember with this is to read the procedure before you get started, if not you may perform it incorrectly and as a result set the timing incorrectly.
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10 year old video. Don't have an Acura. Don't have a timing gun. Still watching during 2020 Pandemic because Eric is cool and better than anything on TV!
Thank you for literally being the only person on RUclips that really explains what you're doing/trying to accomplish
Eric you are the best teacher I've had in my life, if it weren't for you i'd be flipping burgers instead of working as a mechanic.
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10 years later eric still helps! Also i wish you prosperity in your mechanic career. 🔥
@zengutsu You don't line up marks with the valve cover but rather the lower timing belt cover and the crank pulley. You can set your light at 16º and look for the single white mark or you could leave your light on 0º and look for the 3 marks on the crank pulley to line up with lower cover.
I'm so glad this popped up when I searched for setting timing on Honda. All the other videos just suck. Thank you Eric!
I cannot thank you enough for this video and this awesome explanation. A technician came to my home and adjusted my mom's civic timing with a non-adjustable timing light a few weeks ago. I don't think he did the right thing. I'm going to check this as soon as I can. Thanks Eric for all the help you bring to us.
@EricTheCarGuy I've set the timing and I'll go back in to the shop tomorrow afternoon. I had 133 hydrocarbons on the lowspeed test and 100 was the limit. I also failed the timing section, but now it should pass. I'll let you know. Thanks for the help.
@MattTrevett Timing is everything when it comes to emissions so it's VERY important to have correct base timing for good emissions readings.
@MyAztecs I'd be looking to the ignition components first. You might try spraying the components with water at idle to see if it starts to miss, this may help you find the fault. It's also very important to use the correct plugs, NGK or Nippon Denso only.
Thanks for the very informative video! I have to replace the distributor on my 90 Integra and I'm a little afraid of the ignition timing. Your video was helpful but I think I am going to have a friend show me exactly how to do it.
@quebecsupervirus I'm happy to help, thanks for the comment.
@chaiboy510 It's probably more likely that the current draw from the shorted heater was messing up the computers reference voltage to other components but if the sensor fixed the problem then it's fixed. Thanks for the update.
Greetings from INDIA..
Eric my Man... you are the best... i got so confused on what exactly is timing light doing...
I really appreciate all the pain and effort taken to explain Novice DIY'ers
Thank a lot
Dude, you have saved my life, I kept ignoring the ECU bypass... it says it right here on the Haynes. First step. lol
@mrrrxxxxx Yes, you do. If you were not replacing the distributor and just removing it to do a coil or igniter you could mark the location before you removed it and put it back where it was but if you are changing the distributor you won't know where to set it so you have to do a timing adjustment at that time.
Best RUclips video on this 💯 for the CR-V the plug to short out is on the right side of the radio, by the floor. It felt like my car gained 15 hp! It runs really well now! Thank you!
@axenz1 From the sound of it I think your in time. When you set your light to 0º it should come up in the middle of the 3 marks, when you set it to 16º it should come up with the single white mark.
@TheEsevee That is true, thanks for the comment.
@MrSinn666 Those are fun to work on, I kinda miss making adjustments to make things run better, these days it's just replacing parts, boring.
@MilanoRedSI Glad you liked it, thanks for the comment.
@ncautoman57 To be honest I don't miss the dealer I used to work for one bit, I miss some of the people I used to work with though.
@chaiboy510 In 14 years of working on Hondas I have yet to see a fuel filter cause that problem. Try wiggling your key in the ignition to see if the car stalls, if it does then replace the electrical portion of the ignition switch. If that is not the case then you need to determine what is missing when the car stalls, spark or fuel, once you find out the missing component you will be able to solve the problem.
@andrewmylyf You may want to watch the video again, that is the check connector that disables the computer control of the ignition system.
Thanks for the video, Eric. You're explanations are helpful. I did a b18c swap on my 2000 si and it is running good. But I did not check the timing and have been wondering how to do it. Now I know. Now to get a timing light.
+EricTheCarGuy You did such a great job of going into detail about the timing and going the extra mile to show the crank pully and talk about the red and white lines, you sir have earned a new subscriber
@teamshinobi Glad you liked it, thanks for the comment.
@chaiboy510 It could be a problem with the idle control circuit or a mixture problem. Look for vacuum leaks as well as any exhaust leaks before the O2 sensor to start. You also might consider replacing or cleaning the idle air control valve.
WOW I never new the white mark is for timing light that have adjustment knobs,,SUPER COOL. I always had my knob on the timing light set on 0. Thanks Eric for the info.
@unknownally Glad I could help, thanks for the comment.
I take a paint marker to the 16* mark so it's clearly visible. Really helps on these old balancers. Great vid. Had to take a quick look as it had been years since I timed one of these.
@MattTrevett You might want to check for vacuum leaks as that can also send the mixture rich. Good luck and thanks for the update.
@miuelevol You usually don't have to do anything to timing as it really doesn't go out unless you replace the distributor as I did in another video. If your going to just take out the distributor for service you can mark it's location before removal so you can get it back in time easy when you reinstall it.
@mrrrxxxxx I did this because I replaced the distributor. For the most part you should never really have to worry about ignition timing. On this car it will change as the timing belt wears but by the time you change it it's back in spec. Great question BTW.
@chillincruisin High voltage electricity (which is what the secondary ignition system consists of) carries with it a large magnetic field which you can not insulate against, that magnetic field is picked up by the lead placed on the #1 spark plug wire and directly corresponds to the firing of #1 cylinder.
@Amopower I would say the ENGINE is mechanically out of time and you should check the timing marks on the crank and cam to see if they are lined up.
@Dantesdoom To be honest I don't know the specifics on that engine or that tensioner but if it's a sealed tensioner then it should not compress down when sitting overnight, if it does I would replace it personally. Good luck.
@HBGAH The set up on that engine is the same as this one and I think if you look closely it will say follow the service procedure under the timing adjustment, this is the service procedure. I will say that if the car suddenly got 'sluggish' then it's probably not the timing as that normally remains fairly constant, go ahead a check the timing but in your case I would keep looking for another cause.
Howdy Eric. Just to let ya know my intake gasket is now complete. The process involved removing the distributor. I have it back in & got the timing as close as I can get it. I had the engine timing marks dead on & the #1 cylinder @ TDC.
@wpk24rsx As long as you get it close it should be OK, in other words 'within the 2 outer lines' it will be timed. I'm really not a fan of aftermarket distributors for Hondas though as I've seen a few problems with them in the past.
Sad you aren't making videos anymore. Your videos are the best!
Seriously helpful video! I'll have my B18C1 swapped 99 coupe civic running smooth in no time!
Thank you for putting in extra work to help better understand what we are looking for as well how to go about it ourselves.
@jtoplinerc I strongly recommend you watch the video again as I go through a detailed explanation of what marks to look at when performing the timing adjustment, the Civic is pretty much the same set up as this Integra BTW. Good luck.
@bliane386 Nope, that is what the woodruff key is for, the crank pulley can only be installed in one spot, if installed correctly.
@davidzzz94 No, that sounds more like a slipping transmission. Make sure you use Honda fluid only and check the level with the engine off on level ground to get the proper level.
@grock1980
you dont have to be an ass, eric takes time to upload his videos
so their will be Recording(at work & explaining it), Editing at home(his own time), uploading it(his own time as well as his own internet bandwidth), replying to PMs(his own time), replying to video comments(own time).
if you think you can do better go ahead if not don't say "you suck"
eric does us users a big favour by doing this & making it easy to understand for the viewers
@gefallt I try not to take myself too seriously. Thanks for the comment.
@000030stephen There is no adjustment, in fact on many late model distributor engines you need to adjust the timing with a scanner. Adjusting timing for the most part is a thing of the past.
@Dantesdoom If it's new and your belt deflection is good I would say that you are done and it's time to put it back together.
@tubefreak90 It does matter, what you are doing is completing the electrical connection, if you don't have an electrical connection then you will not be able to adjust timing correctly.
@papercut1987 Yea the paint comes off the marks easily but the notches should still be there. You might find them on the pulley and pain them yourself with a little white paint to make them easier to see with the light.
@7719stu Good idea for the marks but it's very important that you short the connector before you set ignition timing or it will not be correct. Idle adjustments are done AFTER timing adjustments but you must be sure the timing is correct first. Also make sure that you marked the correct location. Good luck.
Hey man quick question I got a d15b6 in a 89 crx I can’t find the short connector anywhere any ideas ?
@thanh20 That's normal, the reason you jump the connector is to take the computer out of the timing circuit as you make your adjustment, when you pulled the jumper the computer took control again. This is why it's referred to as "base timing" because the computer advances and retards from base timing depending on engine load and condition, you set timing with the computer controls disabled.
@authmaax Indeed they do. Thanks for the comment.
@zbenes6741 Glad you like them, thanks for the comment.
@andrewmylyf As stated in the video you want to check the service procedure for your particular vehicle before you adjust the timing as there are many different procedures for many different types of engines.
@Michiganborn1969 That was just to alert those with a non-adjustable light that things were OK with the light they had and to inform those with an adjustable light to just leave it on 0. Sorry if I messed you up. :)
@boost3782 Helping people is what I like to do, thanks for your comment.
@fixinggrace Indeed, how lucky was I to have one that would work though? I'll take em when I can get em. Thanks for the comment.
@Usernamebreh They are much less expensive from other suppliers so you might want to check around a bit.
Thanks Eric The Car Guy. I don't own a car, but this helped me in shop class!
These old videos will always be my faves, Eric. Thank you so much for everything you've done.
@red666A I don't have a brand in mind of that is what you are asking, they really aren't that sophisticated and there are a lot of good ones out there, find one that fits your budget.
@DC2Kid1224 Same as this one, it still has the connector under the dash just like this one.
@zengutsu Your welcome, thanks for watching.
@ElCompaBudah If you know your engine is out of time mechanically I recommend you correct that and then recheck for the issue that you are having.
@bliane386 I think you probably lost the key when you removed the pulley. You will notice a small notch in the crank and one also in the pulley, there is suppose to be a key that goes into this area to locate the pulley on the crank.
@davidzzz94 No but it's a good place to start if it's a known problem. Diagnosis is often a process of elimination and the best place to start is with the known problems.
@silverlight76 It does give you more options but these days most ignition systems don't even use a distributor and can not be timed using a light as a result, I would keep in mind your usage before spending the extra money.
Eric, what if you have a coil pack ignition system, how would you go about checking the ignition timing then?
Awesome Eric! You look so young here. Thanks for the pointers from the past.
@gst69man Thanks for the comment, the one's like yours are the best.
thanks Eric for another informative video. What does it mean if you need to go further in rotating the distributor to get to the desired timing, but are unable to turn the distributor any further because you reached the stop point of its hold down bracket? Does this mean you have to pull the distributor out and reinsert it in a different position, then try again?
@nico27004 No, the keyway is offset so it's not necessary to put the engine in time before removing it. You might want to watch the video that I did on replacing the distributor in this car for more details.
@thebanjoboy666 Yea the biggest problem with that model was the rust that would happen around where the springs would attach to the body, other than that they last forever.
@beefystik Excellent suggestion thanks for the comment.
@EricTheCarGuy I had already replaced the O2 sensor before the initial test. Adjusting the timing (from 12BTDC to 18BTDC according to the smog test, I actually had it spot-on the mark, though) fixed the problem somewhat. Before I had 133/100 HC count. Afterwards I had 100/100. I also put in a ton of seafoam the day before the retest. It could have been the timing or it could have been the seafoam but I just barely passed.
do you take the paper clip out when the car is still running or when its off? (After its all done)
Bet he’s bought a new timing light by now. Eric the man the myth the legend.
@jtoplinerc Now I realize that you are not setting ignition timing but mechanical timing. Use the white mark on the crank and make sure the cam sprocket has the mark 'up' pointing upward when you line the marks up. Good luck.
@jhndick1 Nope, lots of manufacturers have gone to that set up, if that is the case you can not 'time' the engine in the way I show in this video.
@200996 Ignition timing is hardly ever a problem these days. I would first look to the ignition system (use NGK or Nippon Denso plugs only), if I didn't find a problem there I would adjust the valves and check the EGR system for clogs.
@jdmlov3 You will still need to set base timing, the computer can only adjust timing so much. Make sure you follow this procedure or you will not be successful however.
Makes me wish I was back at the Honda/Acura dealership turning wrenches. Great video keep up the good work. Rich
@Michiganborn1969 I've heard of this before and if I remember correctly you need to take it to the dealer to have it retimed. Apparently with a GM scan tool you can correct the problem. But also make darn sure you have it in there correctly.
1:49 You should make a bunch of those plugs and sell them on your website. I'd totally buy one lol.
Right? I’m here trying to figure out where he got the parts to make it, lol Heading to Home Depot next
@sixwhip14 Good luck and thanks for the comment.
@MegaMarshal I'm really not sure what the benefit of doing such a swap would be but the only way to know if a rotating assembly is properly balanced is to have a machine shop check it.
@Jak3Mac Awesome, thanks for the comment.
I advanced the timing to the maximum setting on my 1998 Mazda Protege.
A short video is on my page.
info was clear and concise ..spot on i already knew about shorting connector but wasnt sure what each of the 3 timing marks were for (number) you where doing an acura and I need to do a honda so if timing is lets say 12 degress + or - 2 then the center mark will be the 12 degree mark. just saying is all as the honda im working on has no im sticker on hood .
have a snap on adjustable timing light that haven't used in 30 years so forget why it is even adjustable other then maybe it is for verifying total timing at full throttle or at max advance ? yes im pretty sure that is what the adustment is for. and if i tested your car and dialed in 16 degrees on timing light the white mark would be showing on tab
@nico27004 You always need to make sure it's in time but for best results consult with the service manual for the service procedure of the vehicle you are working on.
@MegaMarshal Crank pulley? If that is what you are referring to probably not as I think they are the same. You really don't want to swap those from one engine to another however as they are a balanced assembly.
@joelkarlonas If you take the cap off and see orange dust inside the distributor then replace the distributor and see if the other problems still exist, I suspect they will go away.
pretty cool to see that you have JDM one-piece headlights! Great Videos!
@gnccracer16 It came with the car, personally I'm not into "flash" especially when it comes to my engine. Good eye.
@alcor4ever If you mark it before you remove it no, just line the marks back up and you should be fine.
@Red88Rex Good luck and don't forget to short that connector.
@snakev10v5 Not sure but thanks for watching.
@davidzzz94 You didn't specify the type of transmission sorry. Sorry to hear your having trouble with the video, click the support email link on the Fix It page and email me directly and I will get you taken care of.
@LazySniper That is a nice upgrade for sure.
@EricTheCarGuy PART *1* hey eric! well i couldnt find what was really causing the acceleration delay problem from anything, i changed the clutch, fuel filter, clutch master cylinder even, and i cleaned the spark plug wires that goes on to the back of the spark plugs with some electrical parts cleaner, good spark plugs and connections, it still had the problem, so i just dropped the diagnostic