I see people's point about Tweek's Joker, but remember that he has ben using him for two weeks, whereas MKLeo uses him since release. It may actually be a good investment on the long run. For now Nairo looking like top 3 PGR tho
No idea why all these comments are just negative towards tweek??? He placed second against like 3-4 top 15 players in the world. He brought nairo (who should be placed around top 3 soon) to game losers 3-1. Nothing but respect.
because he defected to playing joker. community wants someone to blame because it's not just him who began maining joker, it's a number of people. wishes (another great pt player) also began playing joker. so did kameme and a ton of other players. everyone thinking that you become a degenerate once you switch to joker because clearly you just want to get that nasty drag down upair to up smash confirm and win using a character that is clearly stronger than most. of course people wouldn't be happy when they saw them drop their main just because they thought that other character was stronger.
@@federicodesantis5205 eh well. I don't think it's bad that people want to win. but you know what this community is like. always blaming some top player for using x tactic to win or switching to x character to win. just shows how many triggered man-children this community has. of course, instead of blaming the people who actually made the characters and the game to be this way, they decide to flame the players.
He's definitely still a top player but he doesn't live up to the expectations as a season 1 #2 in the pgr as of this season and is probably ranked lower than #4 this season unless he does something at Kongo saga
@@LosEspookys that's also true, but it's still very impressive and amazing to compete with others that have stuck with one character most of the time the game has been out. That's all I'm trying to say
@@parrabiebrichpablo1634 Normal Joker doesn't have a true combo that reaches to 40% off one grab, and it only works with Arsene if you have a platform to extend on There's also a LOT of Ult characters who can do around 40% off one combo. Bowser, ROB, Palutena, Pac-Man, Peach, Wolf, Inkling (situationally), Squirtle, Pikachu, Pichu, Terry, Wario just to name a few
seriously he wears those everwhere. In a summit skit with Keitaro, where they were talking about sm4sh bayo and stuff, he had those airpods on, like seriously lel
His joker isn’t quite as strong as Mkleo. Nairo seems to have pretty much dropped all characters except Palutena. Wonder if he’ll pick up a good secondary soon
His Joker is incredible! After only two weeks or so? Wow. Looked as good as Zackray's. But I think what we're all seeing about the difference between Tweek's Joker and Leo's Joker is how brilliant Leo's non-Arsene Joker is. Tweek was a lot more dependent on Arsene to get kills, whereas Leo is nearly as dangerous without as he is with.
That was an amazing set! Obviously, shout out to Nairo; he is by far the best Palutena player in the world and I'm going to be studying his VODs here for a long time to learn all of his strategies. However, big props have to go to Tweek here. He did lose a bit of confidence during the reverse 3-0 but for the most part his mental game is so much better than it used to be.
I feel so bad for Tweek! His mental state is not right when it comes to competitive smash. He chokes to much and I feel like he just gives up as soon as he see's a SMALL chance of failure. If his mental state was better, we would do better than he already is.
Congrats to Nairo! Wow, it was just like Shine 2019. Got slaughtered in the first 4 games, then won the next 3 like it was nothing. 23:00 That was one of the fastest stocks I've ever seen fffff
I think if tweek actually did switch charecters when he starts getting wrecked would re invigorate him, he slows down in the later rounds and needs sum inspiration
I believe what is separating Tweek from the other players in Top Ten rn is his experimentation with his characters. MkLeo, Nairo, Samsora, Gluttony and a few others have knowledge of many of the little things that their character can do. Tweek can learn any character pretty quickly, but can’t master them because of his lack of commitment. If he stays committed to two characters and finds the subtle things a character can do to gain advantage, it will improve his confidence.
I think the meta has somewhat left him behind because of this. It worked for him earlier in the game when players weren't as good, but everyone else has gotten so much better.
Tweek really out here lookin lost losing neutral without arsene the entire set 2. Nairo waited out the arsene and knew that tweek wasn’t gonna land set ups like Leo was ez
Tweek's Joker is so different from Leo's. Leo is much more aggressive and punishes you more. Not to mention the more often advanced dragdowns and such. On another note, I hate playing against Palu. Her aerials are soooo broken.
31:23 even more proof that the pressure really gets to Tweek, could’ve taken that stock off w/ a fsmash and possibly gotten some momentum, instead nairo took the tourney
Danny Aguilar yeah but Leo is the best and the world and the best joker. I’m excited for tweeks joker but I’m not sure how good of a decision it was to use against someone who can beat the best joker, and has done so recently. But hey I’m not the 2nd best in the world so maybe I missed something that tweek didn’t.
he's been lost it to samsora, tweek lost to an unranked leffen and has lost to various other top 10 players, tweek hasn't taken a major in a while and his results aren't nearly as consistent as samsora is.
Why did Tweek never used fair 1 to kill early? That the only way that Joker has to kill early without Arsène. He even connected fair 1 but than went for something else rather than dragdown up smash.
@@LoofTroop that sound weird doesn't It? It took me 1 hour to learn how to do it consistently, while i find impossible to consistently pull off Roys jab to back air kill confirm. Tweek is a lab monster, i find it hard to believe he can't do that
Nairo should start making his reads with down smash instead of forward. I've seen him get so many airdodge reads which he misses because people got behind him
What's with all the negativity towards Tweek. Let him play who he wants. Dudes obviously going though stuff just check his Twitter. Bashing on him for being in a slump isn't going to make his mindset any better
Everyone saying tweek choked but don’t realise that it was nairo getting momentum and beating him, all down to nairo being a better player when he found his momentum, brilliant to watch
Cosmos tried Joker and couldn’t get it, Void tried Joker is doing meh, Wishes Joker is isn’t doing anything, Lemmon is most famous for getting comboed by big D, and Tweek did great but just couldn’t get the W
@@Sunshine-eo2sp exactly. and I'm not just talking about the spectators and the community. I'm talking about the players too. I hope they realize that just because you pick up joker does not mean it's a free win
He should just focus on getting his trainer better tbh instead of switching mains all the time , leo stuck it out with joker and look where he got with him
@@DevenThaDude-xb2tm he can beat leo for sure with PT and practice the MU but his mental game is just rlly bad and i dont think the answer is picking up joker lol
@@tsuki5985 i think it's cause he choked unbelievably hard against leffen. and no before anyone says it. im not discrediting leff he played out of his mind to beat tweek at summit2. but tweek was expected to win and he just hasn't been himself since that loss check his twitter lol.
Hear me out.. Tweeks Joker obviously isn’t on Leo’s level that’d be foolish to say. However. Tweeks Joker moves at a much ridiculously faster level and if Tweek stayed there his potential with that character could go higher than Leo’s joker. It’s so fast.
I don't know whether tweek is better than nairo because tweek has been having a character crisis since day 1 it seems and he can't stick with a character, which I think is his issue, he might've just been trying joker out. He also has huge mental problems and tends to choke super hard and if he gets a bad game he loses his mentality and it crushes him, evo showed us that very well. He needs to stick with a character and work on his mental game.
Its Lethal No no, you see, he needs to gather energy from the naifus to form a spirit bomb, and that takes time. So he stalls for a bit and then goes Super Saiyan.
Why does tweek have a character crisis? He's such a talented player but these common switches are really starting to get him. I say this as someone who really enjoys his matches and it's sad to see that lately he hasn't been himself. Still got much love for him though
The Meta is gonna be filled with Joker with Zackray and Tweek there will be less character diversity Nairo also tried Joker and was thinking about switching to it Wishes and Tsu also I think...
People all talking up Nairo like he wasn’t getting waffle stomped for the first 20 min of this set. Tweek is insane he just needs to do something about his nerves or his in game habits.
Does anyone else think Nairo throws the first one or two games in these tournaments so he can download his opponent and trick them into thinking he's less skilled?
This IS one of jokers worse matchups. Tweek obviously could've played better this set but still very impressed with his play all tourney! Hope he sticks with joker
@@dante1000 yeah, he also says Pokemon Trainers the best character in the game though. It's not a terrible matchup by any means but the joker discord pretty much unanimously agrees that palu is like -0.5 for joker. She's one of the few characters that can edgeguard arsene AND nonarsene joker really easily and she wins almost every air to air exchange with her Nair, and her huge disjointed forward and downtilts make grounded fights really tough too. Gun and bair are sick in the matchup and joker can two frame the teleports really easily but it's still tough.
@John Riley dawg he's won majors with like 6 different characters he's not even close to carried by joker. That said I would more or less completely disregard any tier list he made since I agree that pt isn't even close to top 5
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31:48 Nairo making the frame perfect switch from fistbump to handshake.
You know hes been labbing that
Lmao
Another great example of how the Ultimate Meta has been evolved
I am replaying that part over and over, a lot of good lessons to be learned there
Holy shit hahaha!
I see people's point about Tweek's Joker, but remember that he has ben using him for two weeks, whereas MKLeo uses him since release. It may actually be a good investment on the long run. For now Nairo looking like top 3 PGR tho
he's definately #3 i dont see anybody else minus Leo & sam that's done better then him
@@timob1681 he's consistently placed better the nairo this season tho, by a bit
@@timob1681 Sam has 4 Leo wins.
Def number 2.
@@timob1681 his other top wins and placings are more important than just the Nairo head to head. Sam is easily #2. Number 3 is a toss up
@@fangiscool1 is it? Between Nairo and whom?
Tweek: I must become what I fear most
No idea why all these comments are just negative towards tweek??? He placed second against like 3-4 top 15 players in the world. He brought nairo (who should be placed around top 3 soon) to game losers 3-1. Nothing but respect.
because he defected to playing joker.
community wants someone to blame because it's not just him who began maining joker, it's a number of people. wishes (another great pt player) also began playing joker. so did kameme and a ton of other players.
everyone thinking that you become a degenerate once you switch to joker because clearly you just want to get that nasty drag down upair to up smash confirm and win using a character that is clearly stronger than most. of course people wouldn't be happy when they saw them drop their main just because they thought that other character was stronger.
@@blahblahblargh2956 man, pro players that do this for a living are dropping their character for someone better that can win more? How dare they lmao
@@blahblahblargh2956 I feel bad for people like me who main Joker because of how much they love P5 not because he's an strong character
@@federicodesantis5205 eh well. I don't think it's bad that people want to win. but you know what this community is like. always blaming some top player for using x tactic to win or switching to x character to win. just shows how many triggered man-children this community has.
of course, instead of blaming the people who actually made the characters and the game to be this way, they decide to flame the players.
He's definitely still a top player but he doesn't live up to the expectations as a season 1 #2 in the pgr as of this season and is probably ranked lower than #4 this season unless he does something at Kongo saga
nairo lost his momentum on the first set from a damn footstool lol
getting humiliated in such an high level it is not a beautyful thing, he got the comeback thi
When you're not loyal to PT.
OfficialNeonScratch no one is :(
Leffen is tho but he might change any moment
@@patoa3481 he tried to drop PT though and it didn't work out so he went back. Dont know if that's loyalty..🤷♂️
when you're losing the number 2 spot so you're trying to main the number ones main smh lol
Patooo 10/10 hes on Terry now
I love nairo and tweek, but that handshake was even greater than the sets.
"I, Nairoby Quezada, have a dream."
U ain't Martin Luther king
@@alexyanez8033 it was a JoJo reference
@@connor-qf5cn oh lol
*il vento d’oro starts playing*
It amazes me how these top players can pick up a character and take them so far so quickly ..
Yeah it's not like joker can't do a 40 % combo of one grab
It's because smash ultimate has a low tech skill ceiling
@@parrabiebrichpablo1634 that's true. But explain Tweek winning tournaments with PT?
@@LosEspookys that's also true, but it's still very impressive and amazing to compete with others that have stuck with one character most of the time the game has been out. That's all I'm trying to say
@@parrabiebrichpablo1634 Normal Joker doesn't have a true combo that reaches to 40% off one grab, and it only works with Arsene if you have a platform to extend on
There's also a LOT of Ult characters who can do around 40% off one combo. Bowser, ROB, Palutena, Pac-Man, Peach, Wolf, Inkling (situationally), Squirtle, Pikachu, Pichu, Terry, Wario just to name a few
Legends say Tweek has yet to take out his airpods
seriously he wears those everwhere. In a summit skit with Keitaro, where they were talking about sm4sh bayo and stuff, he had those airpods on, like seriously lel
His joker isn’t quite as strong as Mkleo. Nairo seems to have pretty much dropped all characters except Palutena. Wonder if he’ll pick up a good secondary soon
Elefanamir he doesn’t need to, he’s been doing very well with her
Still uses zero suit
why pick up a secondary when all he does is win.
Stop comparing him to Mkleo? Thanks
Falexie Why? They’re two top players playing the same character.
I love how well tweek understands DI and deception of it.
He surprises me with moves I don't expect as a spectator :O
People need to realize that nairo is just better than tweek. i feel nairo has found his footing in ult.
i agree. when nairo has the momentum he just slams on the gas and doesn't let up.
He might be better than Tweek, but I don't think he's better than Leo or Samsora. (Palu is kinda broken though.)
@@inarencommander4663 palu is nutz!! shes so good
I agree that Nairo is better but I don’t think tweek has found his footing yet.
Inaren Commander
nairo has beaten samsora more than samsora has beaten nairo
His Joker is incredible! After only two weeks or so? Wow. Looked as good as Zackray's. But I think what we're all seeing about the difference between Tweek's Joker and Leo's Joker is how brilliant Leo's non-Arsene Joker is. Tweek was a lot more dependent on Arsene to get kills, whereas Leo is nearly as dangerous without as he is with.
Nairo sometimes just seems untouchable. Definetely top 3 with Samsora and Leo
Definitely Mkleo at the top but Samsora and Nairo are a debate for 2nd and 3rd
Shump II skill wise it’s up for debate but samsora has had much better results than nairo hasn’t he ?
@@wallapi1188 Yeah in terms of results this season I don't see Nairo touching Samsora. Maybe next season though
You guys forgetting Marss. I would Marss is ahead of nario 89.99%. And I would say samsora and Marss are tied in my opinion. Correct me if I am wrong
Anthony Harper bruh Marss won an A tier over Leo (smash factor) double eliminating him... he’s probably 4th after Sam and Nairo
Feel like tweek has a habit of choking when it matters
He does get tilted more than other top players... But it's obvious Nairo played rly consistently here and optimally punished tweeks mistakes
nairo's skill>tweek's choke
TSM choking in finals. Doesn't matter when or which game you're watching.
Tweek loses that momentum easily, and becomes readable/predictable when he starts to lose confidence
Nairo got momentum and won, give him the credit
Somebody said it once, I'll say it again. It takes time for the Spirit Bomb to charge, to gather the energy of the naifus.
ka ka ka ka kachi daze
That was an amazing set! Obviously, shout out to Nairo; he is by far the best Palutena player in the world and I'm going to be studying his VODs here for a long time to learn all of his strategies.
However, big props have to go to Tweek here. He did lose a bit of confidence during the reverse 3-0 but for the most part his mental game is so much better than it used to be.
Oh my god. That last 0 to death stock from Nairo on Game 2 of the reset was ridiculously great LMAO
The first 20 minutes or so were painful, seeing Nairo not playing like he usually does. Once he snapped out of it though, things were much better.
Both players were playing out of their minds. Amazingly oppressive start by tweak, and incredible job regaining composure in set 2 by Nairo.
I feel so bad for Tweek!
His mental state is not right when it comes to competitive smash. He chokes to much and I feel like he just gives up as soon as he see's a SMALL chance of failure. If his mental state was better, we would do better than he already is.
Crispy Cereal he needs to get rid of that Twitter gf he has lol
Oz Why?
That 2nd place at EVO 2019 had to have messed him up. He hasn’t been able to defeat Leo ever since then. Nor has he been able to get 1st at any major.
Bruh chill he placed second beating like 3 top 10 players on the way.
@@Rock-hn9ur She literally doesn't relate to anything.
No one can hide from the light.
Congrats to Nairo! Wow, it was just like Shine 2019. Got slaughtered in the first 4 games, then won the next 3 like it was nothing.
23:00 That was one of the fastest stocks I've ever seen fffff
Nairo got butchered in the first 4 games and easily won the next 3 at Mainstage 2019, not Shine 2019
@@TheLogBerry Is that right? Must've gotten them mixed up. Thanks-
I don't have a problem with tweek playing joker but don't it just feel weird to see him play it
Mainstage Grand Finals 2.0
Nairo vs. a Joker, and the Joker just reset the bracket with a 3-0, and now currently leading. Now when did that happen last time?
@@Abbaschand ...Mainstage versus Leo.
12:25 "look at his arms, I believe I can fly, sending himself to the heavens" lol
Vid starts at 3:40 guys
I think if tweek actually did switch charecters when he starts getting wrecked would re invigorate him, he slows down in the later rounds and needs sum inspiration
I believe what is separating Tweek from the other players in Top Ten rn is his experimentation with his characters. MkLeo, Nairo, Samsora, Gluttony and a few others have knowledge of many of the little things that their character can do. Tweek can learn any character pretty quickly, but can’t master them because of his lack of commitment. If he stays committed to two characters and finds the subtle things a character can do to gain advantage, it will improve his confidence.
I think the meta has somewhat left him behind because of this. It worked for him earlier in the game when players weren't as good, but everyone else has gotten so much better.
Nairo keeps on getting better. I hope this keeps up!
Tweek really out here lookin lost losing neutral without arsene the entire set 2. Nairo waited out the arsene and knew that tweek wasn’t gonna land set ups like Leo was ez
Tweek's Joker is so different from Leo's. Leo is much more aggressive and punishes you more. Not to mention the more often advanced dragdowns and such.
On another note, I hate playing against Palu. Her aerials are soooo broken.
Nairo is evolving bro he is gonna be number one in this game soon
don't know, samsora is also evolving and mkleo is a god
Nairo spent 4 games to recover from the game 1 footstool
I just noticed now that the joker icon next to the percentages loses his glasses when arsene comes out.
Same for his regular masked form. The mask comes off when he gets arsene.
Hell yeah let’s go Nairo!!!!
31:23 even more proof that the pressure really gets to Tweek, could’ve taken that stock off w/ a fsmash and possibly gotten some momentum, instead nairo took the tourney
I’m really starting to realize what makes characters good with their moves and how and what is important
14:28 tho?
Does Palu have the best up B in game? I swear it has 0 endlag and the snap to ledge I don't even have to mention.
Wow. Tweeks joker is brilliant. Would love to see a ditto vs mkleo. Good job nairo
Tweek was so sad abt Mkleo beating him, he decided to main the very character that destroyed him
"You have allowed this dark lord to twist your mind until now you have become the very thing you swore to destroy"
Game 2 nairo was thinking, I’m never letting this dude come back to my stream again
I’m sitting here waiting excitedly for the day when Joker inevitability gets nerfed. It’s gonna happen, and I’ll be a happy man.
There’s no way Nairo would lose to Tweek’s Joker if he beat MkLeo’s.
Mattias Rhawi Different playstyles matter
Different player, different strengths, different weaknesses, different styles. But you’re right, it’s not as strong.
Not as simple as that. Just look at Brawl, where half the top players played Meta Knight.
Danny Aguilar yeah but Leo is the best and the world and the best joker. I’m excited for tweeks joker but I’m not sure how good of a decision it was to use against someone who can beat the best joker, and has done so recently. But hey I’m not the 2nd best in the world so maybe I missed something that tweek didn’t.
This Flambo commentator is now my favorite commentator
Tweek's grab combos with joker were on point this set, even if he lost his joker looking pretty solid.
Tweek has mastered the art of choking lol.. he is losing his second spot so bad
he's been lost it to samsora, tweek lost to an unranked leffen and has lost to various other top 10 players, tweek hasn't taken a major in a while and his results aren't nearly as consistent as samsora is.
lmao i wouldnt call this a choke, he came from losers
@@linuxafrica2584 yeah people forget that nairo did this to Leo as well at mainstage
No one forgot about that set. Its just tweek consistently been underperforming.
@@sorinnoctis652 bro, people forget things after like 2 weeks lol, and honestly tweek has made top 8 every tourney he's attended minus summit.
22:31 gamer lean is a real thing that is proven to help you focus. Example: Nairo
Why did Tweek never used fair 1 to kill early?
That the only way that Joker has to kill early without Arsène.
He even connected fair 1 but than went for something else rather than dragdown up smash.
I think he literally simply doesn’t know how to. It bothered me when he didn’t connect fair 1 with a kill confirm
@@LoofTroop that sound weird doesn't It?
It took me 1 hour to learn how to do it consistently, while i find impossible to consistently pull off Roys jab to back air kill confirm.
Tweek is a lab monster, i find it hard to believe he can't do that
Second set Nairo is an entirely different Nairo.
Nairos plot armor hard counters tweeks choking mentality
nairo scratching his nose during the rapid jab lol
Nairo should start making his reads with down smash instead of forward. I've seen him get so many airdodge reads which he misses because people got behind him
What's with all the negativity towards Tweek. Let him play who he wants. Dudes obviously going though stuff just check his Twitter. Bashing on him for being in a slump isn't going to make his mindset any better
Everyone saying tweek choked but don’t realise that it was nairo getting momentum and beating him, all down to nairo being a better player when he found his momentum, brilliant to watch
George Tuttle saying tweek choked when the truth is that Nairo and mkleo adapt incredibly well and always have
Why Leo Dont play Here?
Starts at 3:50
14:25 we not gonna talk about that??
Nerf Joker pls!!!!!! Wait, this is not Leo's Joker so it's ok
Gianmarco Padilla Instead of nerfing characters just nerf Leo *taps head*
This joke doesnt even work here because tweek lost lmao.
Imagine if Leo wins one major with Little Mac and he gets nerfed.
Little Mac gets nerfed anyways
That zero - death around 23 mins tho...
Why AreYouHere Nair
Is this a major?
hopefully people get the idea one day that mkleo's joker is clearly better than everyone else's...
lmfao
Cosmos tried Joker and couldn’t get it, Void tried Joker is doing meh, Wishes Joker is isn’t doing anything, Lemmon is most famous for getting comboed by big D, and Tweek did great but just couldn’t get the W
@@Sunshine-eo2sp exactly. and I'm not just talking about the spectators and the community. I'm talking about the players too. I hope they realize that just because you pick up joker does not mean it's a free win
Tweek also just started playing this character...
@Angga Antonio word.
What tier was this tournament?
B-tier
@@megazard2946 thanks
Literally I just want Tweek to pick a main already. Wario? Pokémon Trainer? Wolf? Palutena? Joker? Young Link? Mario?
He should just focus on getting his trainer better tbh instead of switching mains all the time , leo stuck it out with joker and look where he got with him
Wdym leo didnt always main joker, hes just nasty
@@DevenThaDude-xb2tm yea he stuggled at first with him but found it
@@DevenThaDude-xb2tm i think he always has but he should focus on PT to make it better is all
@@DevenThaDude-xb2tm he can beat leo for sure with PT and practice the MU but his mental game is just rlly bad and i dont think the answer is picking up joker lol
Tweek choking in grand finals. You love to see it
moist man typical tweek
moist man Nairo just played well. People are always so quick to blame losses on “choking”
@@tsuki5985 i think it's cause he choked unbelievably hard against leffen. and no before anyone says it. im not discrediting leff he played out of his mind to beat tweek at summit2. but tweek was expected to win and he just hasn't been himself since that loss check his twitter lol.
Tax Man getting outplayed doesn’t mean he choked, sure he chokes but not nearly as much as everyone likes to make it out to be.
@@rhysjones1108 Being outplayed is part of choking in game.....
Hey Tweek, Are you from Atlanta? Because you seem to have a nasty habit of throwing victory away when it matters most.
Hear me out.. Tweeks Joker obviously isn’t on Leo’s level that’d be foolish to say. However. Tweeks Joker moves at a much ridiculously faster level and if Tweek stayed there his potential with that character could go higher than Leo’s joker. It’s so fast.
I don't know whether tweek is better than nairo because tweek has been having a character crisis since day 1 it seems and he can't stick with a character, which I think is his issue, he might've just been trying joker out. He also has huge mental problems and tends to choke super hard and if he gets a bad game he loses his mentality and it crushes him, evo showed us that very well. He needs to stick with a character and work on his mental game.
23:02 DAYUMMM
Nairo, the tribe has spoken.
Starts 3:40
really loved the commentators on this set
30:57 👌
Nairo had me scared for round 1 of gf, but I knew he would come out on top.
lol it was actually mainstage all over again, lost 4 in a row only to destroy the next 3
@@lordkappa6324 He's doing this on purpose then.
Its Lethal
No no, you see, he needs to gather energy from the naifus to form a spirit bomb, and that takes time. So he stalls for a bit and then goes Super Saiyan.
@@Endershock1678 Lmao! He went Ultra Instict on Tweek.
31:02 That spike !!!
Why does tweek have a character crisis? He's such a talented player but these common switches are really starting to get him. I say this as someone who really enjoys his matches and it's sad to see that lately he hasn't been himself. Still got much love for him though
I also use the n64 music for the menu. It works the best!
Match begins at 3:42
Ty bro
The Meta is gonna be filled with Joker with Zackray and Tweek there will be less character diversity
Nairo also tried Joker and was thinking about switching to it
Wishes and Tsu also I think...
I like how one of the beginning clips is jusy a hyped up walk off nair with palu
Does nairo ever use counter? If not, why?
Nevermind i saw one, but that was like the only one i've seen in a lot of replays
When you forget to use DownB as Joker...
People all talking up Nairo like he wasn’t getting waffle stomped for the first 20 min of this set. Tweek is insane he just needs to do something about his nerves or his in game habits.
Does anyone else think Nairo throws the first one or two games in these tournaments so he can download his opponent and trick them into thinking he's less skilled?
I think people need to realize tweek just picked up joker of course he's not going to be on Leo's lvl yet stop being so damn negative ya jims
These two idiots in the background, i can't...
Was a nice game tho, happy to see palu win
Tweek is the Kevin Durant of smash
Nairo was playing horribly in the first half but man did he bring it back in the second half.
These comments are so salty and toxic. Just enjoy the match between two of the best smash players in the world.
Agreed. People are unironically saying tweek is washed for placing SECOND against multiple top15 players. Jfc
really think tweek should of changed character . nairo was starting to adjust to his joker.
You know what they say, you can spell Nairo without "nair"
I'm just not feeling Tweek being a Joker user
it's not out of the oven yet
Tweek vs Leo joker ditto when 👀
Fro Zone it’s gonna be Joker vs Akechi pog
Fro Zone wouldn’t even be close
This IS one of jokers worse matchups. Tweek obviously could've played better this set but still very impressed with his play all tourney! Hope he sticks with joker
leo says that joker wins this matchup
@@dante1000 yeah, he also says Pokemon Trainers the best character in the game though. It's not a terrible matchup by any means but the joker discord pretty much unanimously agrees that palu is like -0.5 for joker. She's one of the few characters that can edgeguard arsene AND nonarsene joker really easily and she wins almost every air to air exchange with her Nair, and her huge disjointed forward and downtilts make grounded fights really tough too. Gun and bair are sick in the matchup and joker can two frame the teleports really easily but it's still tough.
@John Riley dawg he's won majors with like 6 different characters he's not even close to carried by joker. That said I would more or less completely disregard any tier list he made since I agree that pt isn't even close to top 5
@John Riley :0 Not gonna say anything.
William Wuttke
who gives af about the joker discord lol. are they more knowledgeable than Leo?
32:9 Tweek probably has a 1 Mchicken with nothing and small fries
@jumi060 😂😂
I liked it better when week rocked that PT, now everybody is picking wack ass Joker man
At 3:45 the match starts.. with a dab.
he didn't even do it right