OUR FIRST REACTION TO Meshuggah - Future Breed Machine | COUPLE REACTION
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
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Cool to see someone react to this song! Everyone reacts to the new stuff but this song is still my all time favorite Meshuggah song. One of my favorites in general! Extremely forward thinking music for 1995... still amazing to me this came out almost 30 years ago.
Same for me :). Its the track and album that made me a _Meshuggahner_ for life in 1995. I'm glad that more fans are discovering NicknLex to show love for one of the most unique bands in Metal.
@@mvunit3 Yes bud!
This and corridor of chameleons are my 2 favorite meshuggah songs
This is THE song that brought me into Meshuggah. Listening to it for the first time was a life altering experience, seriously. The energy and odd timings immediately drew me in. Especially the part after the solo just hits me a like freight train everytime.
The vocals took some time to getting used to, but especially here it's still very organic. I love how his voice almost seems to break at the end. At first i was really put of by the vocals, but it's the only way the singer can match the intensity of the music.
Intense, that is really how i would describe Meshuggah. Most people aren't used to this kind of intensity, just like with spicyness of food.
I hope you will do more Meshuggah songs. When you develop an ear for their polymeric riffs it becomes orgasmic.
"This is THE song that brought me into Meshuggah" . . .
Same for me, but I'll save when and where in my 2 LONG comments, hopefully you'll enjoy my "journey". I KNEW this would "divide" their audience as its VERY different, strange and "chaotic" (controlled chaos) and many don't like "Metal", so THIS type of Metal will be, like someone said; "It sounds like the stop and start button is being hit consistently while speeding up and slowing down like a record on a turn table with the needle skipping across the vinyl ..." to most of N&L's fanbase. But it may bring in a new audience, more diversity and _they_ may hear something they never thought they'd get into.
Its good to see Meshuggahners show-up and share the love \m/.
@@mvunit3 oh yeah. Subs went to 36k! New blood is good for all of us. And I didn’t think it sounded like a washing machine (not quite circular) ... it reminded me of trains 🚆 in the subway going by ... conveyor belt, subterranean trains ... taking us to dismantle. Lol. It would make for good cinema. ✨🤪
And you don’t need affirmation from me (you got it, if you do) - however, in Plato’s Allegory of the Cave, the first dude to say, “These are mere shadows on the cave walls” ... well, they attacked him. But we gotta share what we like and let the turntable needles drop where they will on the Tracks of my Tears. Do you. No one else can. ✨😋
@@michelemichele3375 - Haha, thank you again :D.
Such a philosopher ;).
when you say his voice almost seems to break what do you mean?
@@t-man5196 When he sings "See me, be me, same contents, same machine" his voice goes into some heavy distortion, that he only does in this specific moment. It's like he doesn't fully control it, sounds very raw that way. Can't really describe it any more, it's just the way the frequencies collide and overlay.
Highly recommend rational gaze, clearer sounding and more groovy. Lots of amazing meshuggah songs out there, but as a start I would recommend that or Demiurge
Frederick Thordendal is a big Holdsworth fan, you can feel his influence, especially in his solo album "Sol Niger Within", with that futuristic/sci-fi vibe which I like a lot. It's mostly instrumental, I bet you can kinda dig it.
When a woman mentions "Sol Niger Within" . . . you Rock! :D
. . . but I don't think Lexi is ready :p. Maaaaaybe Nick, but not sure. He'd LOVE "Missing Time" though :).
His dad was mates with Holdsworth.
Yikes, it's 9am here on the east coast and I am now wide awake.
This is one of my favorite songs of all time but I'm too scared to watch this! I know y'all weren't ready lol
OK I had to watch it, it wasn't that bad lol. I appreciate y'all being honest! But for real, maybe this just means...more metal requests??? jk.. or am I???...
@@lparksession - You may want to see the last 3 unboxings and the CD's I purchased for N&L, its a WIDE range of musics and Underground Metal too :).
Very cool of you guys to give this a fair shake after not being into The Abysmal Eye. Enjoyed the open and honest take. Cheers
The lyrics of this song and the delivery of them is sort of like spoken poetry but with screaming and growling.
You can take almost any Meshuggah song, submit the lyrics as poetry, and win a pulitzer
My sons turned me on to Meshuggah, Gojira, Mastodon, Devin Townsend and such, and it took we a while to be able to swallow these bands, but now I love it. For me it’s mood music. When i’m in the mood to work in the yard or just have a moment of aggression, these are my go too. When i’m chillin, by the pool, or on a drive, it’s “ Babylon Sister” time. It’s all subjective.
A music for EVERY mood . . . that's why I believe in "music"; Variety is the spice of life :).
A music for EVERY mood . . . that's why I believe in "music"; Variety is the spice of life :).
I like it alot that you gave it one more chance. I would like to make a few coments though.. my perspective on Meshuggah. Not to try to convince you to like it, but just to explain why i love them so much. First of all, this is a very different kind of metal, it is not about a good tune with cool riffs and so on. They call this themself experimental extreme metal. For many it is very exreme in many ways.. some say repetitive, so say agressive and so on. For me it is music that demands a lot if me. There is none easy listening about meahuggah. It is a very expenaive red wine. If you open it and dri k it to your burger you would say “why is this so expensive??” But if you do what you can to experience it in perfect conditions the wine will give you back so many flaviurs and tones. It is the same with this band.. and when you do that.. you.. or I rather.. ends up in a almost meditative state of mind. The syncopations, the polyrhythms and so on.. the drummer Tomas with his five brains.. one for each limb and one main in is head that puts it all together.. the guitarist Thordendahl with his complexed solos.. some if the members started and still is, jazz musicians.. I hear a lot of avantgard jazz in meahuggah.. and talking about drums that keep the music together.. that is very much meshuggah for me.. the drummer is playing the polyrhythms and the bass and the guitar is following and then leave and do their own thing and moves back with perfect sync. About the growling.. this is not right for all growling but with Meshuggah it is very obvious. We are normally used to hear a singer in change of the melody.. but here he isn’t.. he is just an instrument connected to the drummer. He follows the drummer and becomes a percussionist but with a message.. and talking about that.. Meahuggahs lyrics is often fantastic in you dive into them. Well that is some of my thoughts about this band :) 🇸🇪❤️🤘🏼
Well said! :D (or at the very least, what you are trying to convey ;).
Not for everyone, nor will everyone even "get" them! But holy shit, when it clicks for you, your musical appreciation of music in general will fucking skyrocket!! If you never get there, so sad!!!
Bach was like a curtain suddenly being pulled aside one day after listening over and over. It was like the floodgates opened. The exact same thing happened to me with Meshuggah. This to me is simply music evolved. Most people will just not ever understand it and that's fine. But that actually is the point of evolution.
it took me many many years to appreciate this song and now i love it. i loved their newer, more groovier stuff. Finally this clicked with me with the chill part.. and recognizing its from 1995>..!! took along time, but one of my favs now.
You guys gotta remember, this came out in 1995 ... nobody was ready for this level of musicianship in metal at the time 😂. People were still listening to nirvana and green day 😂
One thing people don't talk about enough with Meshuggah is how much the lyrical subject matter ties into the music itself, everything sounds crazy and mechanical and robotic because a lot of the lyrics pertain to humans merging with machines/being replaced with machines and the problems that arise on a metaphysical level from that, etc, a lot of dystopian stuff
Well it is even hinted in their band name "Meshuggah" - which means crazy or nuts in Hebrew
That song alone changed the face of metal forever!
never thought you would react to meshuggah 😊
I like to play songs like these during my cardio workout .....
What I love most about this reaction: NnL run this channel so anyone can suggest anything. And they give it a fair and honest reaction. And ... I love and admire you, Tony, and you pushed me a little out of my comfort zone this morning. I can appreciate the musicianship and liked the middle break. And yes, I’m a softie but I can appreciate that music is so varied and serves many purposes. Thanks, Tony. You educate me. I’m sure fans will especially enjoy this. And thanks to NnL - great job 👏🏼
I try and "explain" the Meshuggah Machine in 2 "Essay's" here, so HOLD ON TO YOUR PANTS! :P
@@mvunit3 Thanks Tony. Well done. I’m right there with you as far as background in music - growing up with that similar variety - and musical influences and I thought I had passion but it pales compared to yours. Lol. I love your passion, feeling, research, knowledge and willingness to explore. I’ve always said you should TEACH - because your knowledge is so deep. So, you’re teaching on this channel and in your essays (I’m gonna check out some links as time allows).
And I can’t wait for the King Crimson documentary - In the Court of the Crimson King - 50 years. I think it drops in March. Friends in music ✌🏻✨🤪
@@michelemichele3375 - Aww thanks M&M ^_^
Look, I appreciate ANYONE's time to put aside to read my LONG comments (and having the time to checkout the links), and my "Essay's". I hope to enlighten and entice people to explore outside the boundaries.
Thanks for being soo kind and replying, it makes me feel that I'm not talking to the air ;). "Interesting" music to come when N&L get around to it, and MUCH of it more melodic and digestible . . . with the HEAVY stuff ;).
@@mvunit3 I’m here for all of it! None of us know everything about all genres and artists so your knowledge is appreciated (and deep). I’m still dabbling in your “course”... but someone left the cake out in the rain and I don’t think that I can take it, cause it took so long to ...........
lol, I feel you, Bruh. ✌🏻😋
@@michelemichele3375 . . . that Richard Harris (I really LOVED that song as a kid, still do. SCTV made a HILARIOUS skit about it :p).
You know the song’s gonna be dope when the breakdown happens
It would be interesting for you to hear how they sound today - new single recently released (27 years after this song)
Before you make any decisions on the band i would LOVE to see you react to the clockworks drum play through. Their drummer tomas is in a league of his own.
It sounds like the stop and start button is being hit consistently while speeding up and slowing down like a record on a turn table with the needle skipping across the vinyl ..
Btw, the documentary “IN THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON KING - King Crimson at 50” drops this March (next month!!). Edit: trailer link -
m.ruclips.net/video/Kg3osMG5yK4/видео.html
You just listened to the greatest metal song written by the greatest metal band of all time!!! Legit honest opinion!!!
You can always listen to the song as a distorted instrument. Instead of drowning it out - the best way to get past that is to read along with the lyrics. Not for making an analysis, but for yourself, for structure and something to grab on to :)
I remember when I was at uni lots of women used to listen to this album without a second thought. Cutting edge.
Meshuggah - Ritual from None Ep(1994). less heavy had some clean voice and guitar riffs .
this is the first step towards what Messhgugga would become. Actually. No. The e.p NONE before this is the template. This is where they set a new bar and standard and take no prisoners. In 2022..it still out classes.
You know it's Meshuggah when you don't know how to headbang to the verse😂🔥 great reaction.
If you do . . . your Head will snap off :D
HI guys! Love your channel! Reacting with you just relaxes me.
Meshuggah, though, is not relaxing at all. It is a heavy pill to take without a good dose of rage as a tampon. Personally I was amazed when I first got into them. They were so out of this world for 1995 with Destroy/Erase/Improve. After it, they came with a even much heavier one, Chaosphere.These two were so unique for the 90's. Some of their tracks like this one, or Combustion, New Millennium Cyanide Christ, Rational Gaze, Straws Pulled At Random, Bleed (there are more), never cease to amaze me with each new listening. They just use all their instruments for rhythm, even the vocals. And it works!
Just remembered, at the same time, I was getting into hardcore punk - Discharge, Bad Brains, Dead Kennedys, Circle Jerks, Minor Threat...That rage again :).
I hear you. I enjoyed some punk and Dead Kennedys too - Police Truck was fun to dance to in crowded dives. I also liked The Cramps. It’s just where music went and I followed gladly. I just never developed my death metal taste but understand the energy. Thanks ✨🤪
That's awesome Corvin. I had time to ease into extreme Metal, so by the time Meshuggah came into my life in 1995, I was more than ready.
@@mvunit3 That old Zen saying? When the listener is ready, the artist will arrive ... or something similar.
So, I’m leaving lots of little comments and replies. Not sure, but I think it boosts the algorithms, gets more viewers ... and gives me practice with brief bouts of sarcasm (laced with an underlying deep caring, which I try to hide). Lol ☺️
@@michelemichele3375 Great stuff! Jello Biafra is a treasure. I will check on Police Truck and The Cramps. Their names sound cool. I would've love to be a teenager at punk gigs.Yep, that's the point. To follow "the call". Followed the call of Death Metal early on, with Obituary and Death. Later I got into Morbid Angel as well. Now I like to rediscover old stuff and find other bands through reaction channel. Cheers!
@@mvunit3 I got into Messgugah, especially Chaosphere in 2003-2004. In 95-98 I was in Sepultura and Death band phase. I didn't really get MS sound in the 90's. I liked D/E/I, but thought they were Pantera on steroids :). What amazes me at MS is their rhythmic inventiveness infused with a dark, dystopian, relentless vibe, like in a scenario when AI would enslave mankind. Also, nobody had this approach to music in the 90's. After Chaosphere, and mp3 version of their Nothing album fell into my lap. It was all over. I was a fan!
Meshuggah's brand is extreme metal so it will take a few listens to ease into it. When I first heard rational gaze on headbangers ball, it sounded odd but unique. It didn't have much of an effect on me but drew my curiosity enough to warrant a revisit, each time it grew on me and now I'm a huge fan of their music. They're way ahead of their time but I understand why the harsh vocals would put people off. It's not everyone's cup of tea but kudos for the effort.
Meshuggah is a band you have to study to truly understand
this song is one of my favourite
It's not my style of music, but I can see the appeal. It's evocative and technically challenging.
Actually, the longer I listen, the more I find myself enjoying this. I like music that is rythmically tight. 🤟
Thats how Metal and Progressive Rock can be . . . sometimes it takes time. With MANY people I've gotten to know who are like-minded music listeners, it took a few listens to get into "Opeth" and their earlier material. Thank you for taking the time to let it soak in :). The rest of the album isn't as Intense (controlled chaos), but in a sense, not as complex, but . . . still complex ;). My 2 LONG comments feature some links you may take an interest in.
"Sublevels" is a track most would probably enjoy more, which ends the album.
I used to do my box body training with this song and combustion, specially while rope jumping.
Vocals remind me of early ABBA. I just wish they had more energy. 🤣
While I appreciate that they are talented, it's not my cup-o-tea. Cheers. 🍁
ME TOO! . . . if only they'd get HEAVIER (oh . . . they do :P) :D
Haha, MS 😂 I love to laugh.
Tony, how come I can hear your death metal voice as I read your comment? Lol. Thanks, Buddy. ✨🤪
@@michelemichele3375 HAHAHAHA!!!!
"C is for Cookie and cookie is for MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!"
You may prefer Meshuggah - Stifled, it's as much Jazzy as it is metal
Oooo…kaaay. 😂 I love you guys and love that you explore such an eclectic mix of music on your channel. I’ve discovered some fantastic music thanks to you. But I couldn’t get more than 2 minutes into this one and had to mute it. Not the best post-heart attack cardiac rehab music. 😂😂 ❤️
Interesting. Most people don't start here, this is a much older song in a generation where metal was super different, I think it's over 20 years old by now.
To describe them, they're basically caviar for the people musically inclined enough to understand. I don't know the whole world of knowledge that music contains, don't even know a piece of it.
They're just pretty cool. The drummers good, the guitarists do some wacky stuff like that jazz-esque solo you hear during this song.
You may NEED to hear Nick and one of my (I'm "Tony" btw who corrupted them :p) fave Jazz/Fusion guitarist "Allan Holdsworth". The lead guitarist Fredrik Thordendal is a HUGE Holdworth devotee. N&L have reacted to Holdsworth as well. Worth checking out his music and the musicians that play along with him.
Btw - Everytime Nick mentions "Holdsworth" in their reaction videos, you have to "take a shot" ;).
*Part II* . . .
After all that info, I wanted to start this part out by saying; ALL of that doesn't matter if there is no inkling of exploring their music further. It isn't for everyone, Metal has soo many subgenres and extremes "now", but some are in a category all their own. So this IS different than many people are used to . . . but Metal was always meant to be "scary", piss people off, and make people choose sides. But it really never had any "rules" to follow.
I'm 58, I was raised on Latino music of my parents, "crooners", contemporary vocalists of the 1960's and 70's, 50's Rock 'n Roll, pre-80's Country, Funk/R&B/Soul and AOR FM Rock Radio, and "Pop" of the 60's/70's. Then I was exposed to *Kansas* in 1977, which led me to Classical, Jazz/Fusion and in 1980, diving into Progressive Rock, Metal and Soundtrack Scores . . . all this melded into the Metal I was discovering and subgenres being invented. So I came from a world of "Soul" and Melody.
But when you stumble onto bands like "Gentle Giant" and "King Crimson", you take a pieces of that, and hear Metal that is much like it, and add some Jazz/Fusion-cats influences . . . THAT creates more mutants that interest me a LOT. It also made me understand music, music styles, terminology and what it took to create such musics; technique, scales, tone, timbre (though I still have MUCH to learn) and what "musics" came before, I was also hearing in various Metal music. Destroy Erase Improve is King Crimson's "THRAK" with HEAVIER guitars.
I tried to demonstrate this in an Essay (still under construction):
mavearworx.weebly.com/blog/in-response
There is a section on Meshuggah and other complex music as well (forgive, I need to replace MANY links), and what musics inspired and influenced, with many examples.
Its also ironic that many people (let me emphasize, NOT everyone, and especially not you N&L) who say that this music is too angry, yet _they_ get angry "about" the music :p. They tell people that we must be crazy to like this chaos, and I've seen the same said for bands like Spiral Architect, all the way to Metallica. When people do something different, people come out of the woodwork to insult it or the people that enjoy it. But! . . . also people that are honest, and will have constructive criticism and great discussions on it all. Instead of a sentence on why we are stupid and its all noise (has anyone heard Pat Metheny's album "Zero Tolerance for Silence"?) :P. But Anger is an emotion we all have, and your background and life experiences will reflect that in your music, your art, your personality, and how you "choose" to treat people. And I've been known to be a wacky, goofy guy. But it also doesn't mean that my life is a happy one. It's what we do and how we behave to others that tell people who we REALLY are. And I usually wear my heart on my sleeve, but I like to make people laugh :). This type of music is a release for the burdens in life, also depending on the lyrics, helps me move forward and break through obstacles. Yet at another moment, I need to hear Kate Bush or Elle Fitzgerald . . . its all a part of moods and its time and place. You'll see/hear the "personalities" of the band members below as well.
*Lyrics* . . .
So to start, what Nick & Lex thought were "Washing Machines" - The track "Future Breed Machine" is about deconstructing yourself, like a machine, a "Terminator", from where you were, told what to be and the anger that comes from that. You want to be your own person but your environment is trying to bring you down, they (whatever that may be) want you to conform and be like everyone else. I can relate, my family still wants me to live _their_ dreams, and everyone who doesn't know me, want me to live "their story", but we ALL have our own story to write, and if we don't live it, WE can't blame "them", because we are the ones that took their advice and made the choice. Here are the lyrics (and you can read and find the other tracks, and albums):
genius.com/Meshuggah-future-breed-machine-lyrics
So imagine the sound effects at the beginning are like a conveyor of "Terminator Units" being built, or Humans made to be a specific type, just endless humans already programmed for their destiny.
These are the type of lyrics I enjoy, full of double-entendres, analogies, self-introspection, a different view of our social structures, the world around us and asking questions, sometimes defying what we are told because others think they should tell us how to be, or they think we have no choice and to just comply (Rush - "Freewill"). We always need to "Follow our Bliss" as Dr. Joseph Campbell once said, but its never easy. We have to go through a lot to live the dream, and many times its painful.
I think that is what Metal is all about, even from a _cyborg's_ self awareness: ruclips.net/video/l2q0OKYPsRM/видео.html
(though, I think it would be VERY sad for a Robot/Ai/Cyborgs existence, to have soo many questions about themselves).
Speaking of Terminators, if you are inclined to checkout Meshuggah LIVE (which I highly recommend), vocalist Jens Kidman has quite the scary stage presence, how he "headbangs" or more-so, bobs his head, but then he "scans" the audience, as if he were a 800 series Terminator/Skeleton and "stares" :P. While the rest of the band VERY aggressively headbangs with their entire body! Its quite the sight! D: I have seen them twice, its an experience to "feel" and hear the music, and watch what they do. And there are tracks that I can't help but headbang.
I'll probably add more, but for now I think; all that matters is if YOU like it or not. That's really it, it may bring you back as there is "something" that sticks in your head (for good or bad), like you said Nick; this may turn into a favorite a few months or years from now when you are "ready". Or not a fave per-say but something you crave from time to time. But I know that many folks are not into Metal, and THIS will probably not make you a fan, but there are the few that have made it known they are fans, and the "view count" is surprisingly high :).
I wanted to leave you all with a few things . . .
*The Band, musicianship, their personality, and more.*
Tomas Haake:
1. ruclips.net/video/3aA9SFqqSoA/видео.html
Rhythm Guitarist Marten Hagstrom:
2. ruclips.net/video/g7zifXjrP0s/видео.html
Jens Kidman & Tomas Haake:
3. ruclips.net/video/Ry1Mm1q_FBg/видео.html
Fredrik Thordendal & Hagstrom:
4. ruclips.net/video/rR7qSHp2-lo/видео.html
Fredrik & Morgan Agren:
5. ruclips.net/video/AgwJEvasJlM/видео.html
Fredrik:
6. ruclips.net/video/i4PrwRXx4Fg/видео.html
The drumming and music of Tomas Haake:
7. ruclips.net/video/X7tXosPVMFA/видео.html
Meshuggah in India:
ruclips.net/video/kzFRU7H5byw/видео.html
A L I V E:
ruclips.net/video/ElNCTrp-UfQ/видео.html
*Reviews . . .*
Drummer/Reactor "Andy Rooney":
ruclips.net/video/TFOCqL5Qb34/видео.html
This and many other tracks show that Tomas Haake is a "Marathon Runner" of the drums, that he can do this for 2 hour shows every night is insane.
In the Key of Geebz:
ruclips.net/video/8MIWZl_jBb8/видео.html
Jazz Musician, Reviewer and Audiophile Dereck Von:
ruclips.net/video/wOfYbA97Z-4/видео.html
They're wacky :D . . .
ruclips.net/video/mH4T3Zq1eQQ/видео.html
Main influences:
ruclips.net/video/S_ooMXik93o/видео.html
(find: The title track of the album "Obzen", or "Born in Dissonance" ;)
Their Wiki-page:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meshuggah
Mike Portnoy on Progressive Rock and "Metal":
ruclips.net/video/_6ISFr8xoLI/видео.html
Brann Dailor of Mastodon on his Progressive roots:
ruclips.net/video/ywfHqsfjQGc/видео.html
Where I come from and how I got here:
mavearworx.weebly.com/blog/witnessing-the-birth-of-progressive-metal-part-1-of-2
(note again, LOTS of links need to be replaced, hopefully I'll get to it soon).
But thanks for ALL your time and indulgence folks. I really appreciate it :).
- Thank you Nick and Lexi! But be sure to go FULL "Barbarian" with ELP soon, for Kevin's sake! :D. \m/
Futile Bread Machine . . .
ruclips.net/video/A-ji6X3wrFs/видео.html
Its the version most here would prefer :(. Say thank you to Monty Python and Zappa for this wonderful version. Yes, Meshuggah can get even MORE "technical" as shown here :p.
You should have your own TV show, talking about and presenting music, SERIOUS ! I would come along frequently .... as soon as Lufthansa flies nonstop Frankfurt - L.A. again :-)
@@rudolfbecker4313 - maybe when I get "settled" and have my own space to do it. Again, no word that you even
replied :(.
My first encounter of Meshuggah was exactly the same, but notice I said 'first', lol.
Listen to Dancers to a Discordant system. The vocals aren’t as crazy and you can totally appreciate the musicianship of Meshuggah..
I’m a huge metal fan (even the extreme stuff) but a lot of Meshuggah’s stuff is very relentless and kind of claustrophobic in a way. They have the clean sections to break things up but I generally like music that has a little more room to breathe. Glad you guys enjoyed this to an extent but I think there are much easier pathways to get into more extreme Prog-Metal. Here are a few of my suggestions:
Opeth (early): the main band that got me into heavier stuff. I know you’ve heard at least one song but as Nick said with Holdsworth, sometimes it takes a different song or it can depend on your frame of mind at that exact time. Try out the songs “Bleak” or “Deliverance”.
Death (later period): These guys basically started Death Metal but became very progressive and interesting as time went on. Check out “Symbolic” or “The Flesh and the Power it Holds”.
Gojira: maybe the most “accessible” of these 3 bands but still quite heavy, progressive and just fantastic IMO. The vocals are kind of a middle ground between singing and harsh screams. I think “Ocean Planet” or “The Gift of Guilt” would be good places to start.
Of course no worries if you guys don’t get to any of these or don’t even get into the heavier stuff, it’s definitely not for everyone! Took me years of being into metal before I could stand even these bands. However if it does “click” for you, it opens up a whole new endless rabbit hole to dive into!
Anyway, thanks for everything you guys do! I will be here watching regardless of what’s playing.
Take care and rock on!🤘🤘
Yeah I tend to agree. Meshuggah (and a lot of other modern metal acts for that matter) are very exhausting to listen to for me. It’s like a sonic tidal wave with so many layers occupying every nook and cranny of the mix that I can’t really listen to them for very long at all. There isn’t much variance in volume and so there aren’t many moments to catch your breath.
So I sent them 4 Death albums and 5 Opeth albums (as well as other Metal subgenres and Prog Metal), so hopefully sooner than later, they will experience other musics and possibly get used to various extremes.
Let me add, there are bands I sent that Lexi probably will not like, Nicks tastes are similar to mine as far as Metal goes, but other bands are too extreme "for now". I know LOTS of people that got into Opeth during their Death Metal period that loved their music so much, they got used to the extreme vocals, and now they listen to other bands with the rougher vocals as well. But me and Lexi also have similar tastes in "other" types of music.
Actually, this wasn't a request as a gateway to more heavier Metal or Prog Metal, it was just giving Nick a taste for a certain band, because he is also into complex/technical Metal. But its the "voice" that obviously puts people off. And as you see in the comments, "Metal" puts some people off. I think that's the nature of the beast.
I've sent quite a bit of Playlists with melodic music and melodic Prog Metal to N&L, so I think they are already versed in many bands, but are also waiting to "react" to many, so they don't want to spoil their honest reactions in real time ;).
I have said this many times before. I love the this channel for many reasons and one of them is its a great platform for anybody to share the favorite music or band. I myself have tried on multiple occasions to try and get into this band. But although i appreciate the music just cant get past the voice. This song is a prime example. I really actually loved the middle section of this one, but just as i settled in a little , the end took me out very abruptly. Tony thanks for sharing this ! I love that Nick and lex created this channel and give us the ability to share music with each other. Nick and lex thanks again ! I love you guys! Have a great friday and weekend everybody!
We absolutely love having you here! Thank you for everything and for being you! Love, Lex
Gonna' give you some bands that have those elements you may enjoy . . .
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Hopefully you'll find something you like :).
@@mvunit3 Your heart (and desire to please) is sooo big. I’m so sorry to embarrass you ... but you are such a great person! Toe-nay! Toe-nay! 😋
@@mvunit3 i will check these out! I appreciate you Tony! Again i have explored this band a lot! Because they have in some way influenced other bands that i enjoy. Tool being on of them! Thanks for sharing music with us. Take care my friend! I look forward to your next request!
@@ericmeredith8754 - Let me know what you think, I would LOVE to hear your honest opinion and have a convo about it. Also, if you look in the descriptions of the playlists, you'll find links to all the parts.
It all features Prog Metal and Progressive Rock with an "edge", but all (mostly) with melodic singers ;).
I respect the honesty. It's much better to be true to yourselves and the music rather than fake being awestruck for likes and subs. It's great to see appreciation for the musical techniques and talent as well. Break Those Bones is a bit slower and might be a little easier on the palette if you guys are interested in more shuggah
12:14
James Hetfield on STEROIDS. haha Jens Kidman would laugh too!
10:29 should’ve headbanged MAN
It's so funny hearing non metal heads say it sounds angry, violent etc. However it does the exact opposite for me. Pop music makes me way more angry than metal ever has.
AMEN!
Nick once again I acknowledge your honest opinion! when listening to certain bands and trying to figure it out 👏I remember the first time I listened to Rush! I was off school sick ! My brother put Rush farewell to king's and dear God I heard this racket!! Coming from downstairs full blast 🤮I dragged myself off my sickbed and made it downstairs!I pleaded with my brother"Will you please turn this racket off!! It was appalling!! Anyway I recovered and a fortnight later I came across my brother's copy of farewell to king's and thought I'll give it another go.Anyway I did and fell in love with Rush 💞 Saying that I can't drive while listening to farewell to king's!! (To this day!!)I become an absolute lunatic behind the wheel 🤣🤣🤣 some music I just can't drive while listening to!! love you guys THANK YOU so much as always my friend's.
So many fine things in life are acquired tastes. Good point. Thanks ✨🤪
@@michelemichele3375 Thank you Michelle Michelle 👍
Meshuggah (משוגע) is a Hebrew word translationg to crazy or nuts, it's pronounced Me-shu-ga, not that it matters that much but yeah
Great reaction guys. This album has much "groovier" songs on it. So does the Chaosphere album.
Hi Nick and Lex here ……Grrrrrrrroooaaaagh………this should be interesting. Maybe a nice lie down afterwards?
Or running around the block at full speed?
@@mvunit3 Yes. My testosterone just boosted. Lol. Hi Tony. 🤩
Special music for special moments :-) probably the hardest music in my collection, I have one CD/DVD incl my favourite song "Bleed". This music is great for agression reduction, listen to it for 20 - 30 minutes and you're done :-))) or if you want to annoy your neighbours :-) I'm with you, when you say, the music is great, but too much of the "singing" is hard to listen to ....
Hi Rudi. I knew I’d see you here. Good to hear from you. ✨🤪
I figured you "liked" them. Seems you got into the stuff that was indeed MORE heavier than this track ;).
I have the Ophidian Trek live CD/DVD.... that's really hard for me ...Swarmer, Bleed, Obzen ... I like hard and loud music, but the vocals ... ? Similar to my son's favourite metalcore band - Heaven Shall Burn ... I guess you know them ?
I am old enough to remember when music was just music all the putting things into boxes and sub genres I hate. It only exists to make a critics life easier and make listeners tribal and less inquisitive. Now this is not a thing I would search out there are some very interesting things happening. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.x I am more a YES and Steely Dan fan. But hey live and let live.
Where I disagree with you about "labels" . . .
"I hear Lexi likes Metal! :D"
I then suggest:
Death
Carcass
Immolation
MESHUGGAH
. . . . did you see the PAIN in poor Lexi's face? :P She now wants to strangle me.
"Labels" are like when you pick-up a can of Soup. You want to read the label to see what kind of soup it is.
If I was that nonchalant type of fan that saw all these Progressive "Rockers", and then suggested;
Spiral Architect
Watchtower
Aghora
Cynic
(maybe even Gentle Giant, the later era of King Crimson, Magma, Can in some cases)
. . . they may want to strangle me again :p.
And those bands will be featured eventually ;).
Progressive Rock is different than Prog Metal (and what era or type of Prog Metal? Same with Progressive Rock). And Metal has all these various subgenres because Anaal Nathrakh is not the same as Iron Maiden, and Mercyful Fate is not TesseracT and Candlemass isn't Napalm Death.
. . . I LIKE variety, and some bands and genres I don't like. At-least the label tells me what they are and I can decide if I want to venture further to hear it.
And I'm a Yes and Steely Dan fan, and raised on AOR FM Radio since 1977 (and AM radio before that).
- I'll go away now.
@@mvunit3
Get back here. You’re not going anywhere. People like you ... they really like you ... and Sally Fields too lol.
Find the positive and shrug off the rest. Besides, it was your dime, Mr. DJ. ✨🤪
Do some earlier In Flames (Melodic Death Metal), that is what got me into harsher vocals in the old days. Jotun, Colony, Bullet Ride, Trigger (from old to new). All fantastic top tier songs.
Checkout Nick's NEW "show" where he tackles the harsher Metal stuff, solo :).
Meshuggah is the Yiddish word for “crazy.”
Please do Bleed, Pravus, Lethargica, Obzen
Meshuggah used to open for TOOL shows ......
They had the same Tour Promoter.
@@mvunit3 oh yes
Danny is fan of the drummer ...
It's so interesting how each of us has progressed through our metal journey. More people than not shut their metal down when the growling comes along. Hard to focus on the vocals.
My introduction to metal was hearing The Immigrant Song by Zep when I was 11 years old in 1971. Went to a Black Sabbath/Blue Oyster Cult concert right around 1980. Possessed and Death were the first two bands that introduced me to growling. I'm a full on metalhead but like you, certain sounds are out of our element. I was never a big fan of Maiden or Sabbath with Ozzy (Dio was singer when I saw them).
I love Meshaggah. They are controlled chaos. The Abysmal Eye instantly rocketed to the upper echelon of my favorite Meshaggah tracks along with Qualms of Reality, I Am Colassus, New Millennium Cyanide Christ, and Future Breed Machine which was my first favorite song by them. I saw them in concert opening for Tool. Took the wife, son, and daughter with me.
Your reaction style is different than most I've listened to, and I've listened to a lot. I enjoy your delivery.
Good to see "Meshuggahners" shows up. And yes, N&L are VERY unique reactors, that is why many of us hold them with such high regard. I HOPE you will stick around because they both have a LOT of various types of Metal in-store to discover. And "other" unique musics as well.
Woow.
Next reaction could be Leprous - Forced Entry or The Valley.
Even Lexi would LOVE Leprous :).
Not my thing, but I think my ten year younger brother loves them. His latest favorites seem to be Five Finger Death Punch and Volbeat. A true 80's metalhead. I think something more in line with your past reviews might be Richard Harris (yes, the same one that played Dumbledore in Harry Potter) "Mac Arthur Park" or "Morning Girl" by Neon Philharmonic. Both songs tended to be unique and quite different from most of the popular music at the time they were released. Enjoy your reviews and possible consideration. Be well.
And for some reason Five Finger Death Punch doesn't resonate with me, or Volbeat. But Richard Harris and "McArthur Park" . . . . VERY much so, that's my childhood! (and N&L, that's the "Actor" Richard Harris).
Wow I am enlightened. I didn't know "too heavy" was that much of a turn off for some people. where it's hard to set through. I grew up with kiss and metallica being the first 2 bands I knew and heard on the radio and gravitated to the most.
So I naturally went on a path to find a heavier band.
It almost felt like a challenge, like I challenge you to find a heavier band than X or blank band ___
And I guess I've slowly made my way down the path to where the only band I've found that I can only handle in small doses is called
Infant Annihilater.
The name is horrible, but the music is impressive how they have made the most extreme metal genre probably ever. There are others, but I think they might be the first.
And it's actually very difficult to make the most heavy riff you can.
You'll try and try, then it just sounds like ABBA or something XD
Best band ever!!!
This sounds very close to bossa nova
The connections to Jazz/Fusion and various styles are in the DNA of their music. As said in many interviews with each band member.
A journey I cannot make.
I hear you and agree. But I used to own “Bad Music for Bad People” and certain friends didn’t understand. Lol. Hello 👋! ✨🤪
@mike estep Thanks?
A shame that it is so compressed the dynamics have been squashed out of it and the drums sound like biscuit tins . Does make it a hard listen.
Thank you guys! I appreciate your honesty! Seriously! . . .
Where do I begin? If you and your audience have time, a bit of explanations of who and what they are.
*Part I*
There was a time (in its infancy), I did NOT like Death Metal "Vocals". It was my younger brother that introduced me to Sepultura, and that did it. It's taken measures of time for "Metal" to become other things, other mutants and monsters, to get THIS heavy took a lot of time, and add-in other elements to make it unique. MANY of the CD's that I have sent you (that are Metal), are the "stepping stones" to this level. Please keep that in mind, NOT all those albums are as heavy, but some are as well.
The "Cookie Monster" vocals, as-well as screaming take time to get used to, and I can discern between "Emo Screamo" vocals (which I don't like) from "Yelling/Barking" to the Death Metal "Guttural" vocals, some so extreme Lexi would turn it off right away (some of that I don't enjoy either). That will give you a bit of context of the various types of growling vocals, and that some of it can turn me off as well. I also want to let your audience know, I take to "Lyrics" very seriously, they are important to me as the music. I can NOT get into ultra-violent, extreme graphic horror, and "blasphemous" lyrics, it starts effecting my "soul", even if the music is well done, I can't get into it. But I will say there are RARE exceptions, but 98% . . . nope, I can't let my brain go into the depth of that type of horror (which is ironic that folks can get into those type of "movies", but not that type of Metal, hmmm).
I'll get into their lyrics a bit later . . .
Meshuggah is Yiddish for "Crazy" :P Which they are, their 1st album was a VERY Thrash album, but with its share of complexity, and the same vocalist, Jens Kidman, was referred to as "James Hetfield on steroids" (thank you Nick :P). I knew nothing about them then. Then their Ep "None" (which is on your copy of Destroy Erase Improve) they made a change, they became more "groovy", the "4/4" much like Pantera, but the "Riffs" were amazing, the syncopation and drummer Tomas Haake was just as intricate with his "feet" as he was with his hands! The soloing of Fredrik Thordendal began to show his love for Allan Holdsworth (as Tomas was for drummers Gary Husband and
Vinnie Colaiuta), and rhythm guitarist Marten Hagstrom kept the rhythms down and the tricky riffage.
Then in 1995 (same year Opeth debuted, and MANY other albums of Metal subgenres and Prog Metal that are now classics) released _Destroy Erase Improve._
I was working at my 1st Video Game Studio (in Carlsbad Calif.) as a conceptual illustrator, I felt like I had money to burn then :p. So the Art Director from another team said; "Tony, we're gonna' take you to our favorite Mexican dive (that I have been going back to since that day), and our favorite record store ("Lou's Records")". That became a weekly occurrence, one day my co-worker who was very much into Industrial music came back from that store, and handed me _the_ album/CD and said; "This is not really my thing, but take a listen to it, if you don't like it, I'll trade it for something else". It said on the "sticker" on the case (paraphrasing); "...Metal with Industrial grooves".
There is a person here that said "2 minutes in, that was enough for me" :p 2 minutes into the 1st track/Future Breed Machine . . . I became a Meshuggah fan for life. Again, it's 1995, up to that time I was well versed in all the Metal that was being invented into new subgenres, and I especially enjoyed the more complex fare, and the very heavy aggressive sounds of Death Metal, but this was TOTALLY different. Lots of people were making Pantera comparisons in a "negative" way, as if it had already been done before, in a few trade magazines, but this was waaaaay different . . .
After a few listens, just the 1st track alone, as I started learning about music definitions; they were doing all this in "4/4", nothing outrageous like Dream Theater for example, it was a "Groove" pattern, something to headbang VIOLENTLY to. But it's what they were doing WITHIN the 4/4 that makes it nuts! This is probably still, one of their most complex tracks in their history. Where it sounds like "Chaos", its still in the _beat_ of the 4/4.
Their prowess and "fusion" influences enter in the middle, I had NEVER heard anything like that in Metal, maybe at times close, but it was a bit of "Fresh Air" in the carnage, and it was like Allan Holdsworth stepped-in as a guest! I was speechless, I was already a fan of his, and from the liner notes, I learned the band was too. The album continues in all this, not as complex but more complex than most bands (Opeth would be the next "shocker" how they could go from "Beauty to Brutality", but that wouldn't happen till years later when they released "Still Life").
Each band member played the part of "Percussionist" (including vocals), and Haake on drums at times would be the "Lead", or keeping the 4/4 while everyone else were doing odd meters such as 5/16 or 17/16.
The parts you thought were "keyboards" were actually the guitar, its a harmonic that then gets sampled in a loop from their effects pedals. The odd "computer" tapping sounding part is actually a device that Thordendal developed, its a "Breath Controller" that was made from a "Talk Box" (think the talking guitar parts from Peter Frampton) and then mutated into the controller, as Fredrik has said . . .
_"I was mainly interested in using it as a dynamics controller. I wanted to start a note at a lower volume and then bring it up, like a saxophonist does. But I've since found that is more or less impossible with a guitar. Since the controller didn't produce the sound I was after, I had to find other ways of using it. It turned out that the only thing that sounded cool was when I blew every single note with it, which generated this weird staccato sound. The first breath controller we made-the one I used on "Future Breed Machine" and "Sublevels" from Destroy Erase Improve-could only control the volume. So Johan Haake (bother of Tomas) and I tried all kinds of things to get closer to what I originally wanted, like adding control over frequencies and distortion. I am really pleased with how the "Missing Time" solo turned out from Sol N!ger Within Version 3.33 [the remix CD of the debut album from his side project Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects]. But I never thought we got close enough, so I sort of gave up on it. A couple of years ago it was for sale to the public, but not any more"._
Here is a demo by someone who actually got ahold of one: ruclips.net/video/b7JgMt6UP4I/видео.html
And the device: www8.tfe.umu.se/personliga/jh/index.html
He no longer uses this, as they now have components/processors, that are "timed" for each track they perform live.
This was a band that thought on another level, as many will probably assume they compose to be different and purposely "pretentious", well, if you are inclined to see any interviews . . . they just "think" differently, they want to compose Metal songs, and THIS is how it comes out. _Fredrik praises jazz fusion guitarist Wayne Krantz's work with Keith Carlock and Tim Lefebvre, stating that "these guys are the most inspiring band I've heard in a very long time". He has also stated that he listens to Massive Attack and Cult of Luna._ Other members have also talked about "other" musics that inspire them, including Rap/Hip-hop and Electronica, more-so than Metal. These are the many elements that make them "different" and why the music comes out as it does.
Many people have tried to "categorize" Meshuggah; is it Thrash, Death Metal, Prog Metal, Avant-garde, Experimental? And many just say . . . "Its Meshuggah Music". My friend from Tower Records who was from Brazil called it "Jugu Music!". I asked what is that!? He then went; "Jugu Jugu Jugu-JuguJuguJugu -Jugu!" :P. Many years later, Meshuggah was known to inspire the "Djent" scene, that still thrives today (but I'm also VERY picky with). As you heard N&L, Jens Kidman was more of a "Yeller" and Barker back then, but now has a more monotonal growl, which I actually don't like as much. but most of their fans these days like their slower 4/4 songs (where I enjoy the faster stuff, which may have 1 or 2 tracks on each album).
Why they are even HEAVIER now is their use of "8 stringed" guitars, basically Bass & Guitar put together to have more low end, to give it an even heavier tone. This came about on the album "I" in 2005 when they would experiment with various guitars and settle on custom made 8 string guitars to have their own unique tuning and sound.
Music scholars, musicians, reviewers/critics, magazines and even entertainers including bands such as Metallica, Tool, Dream Theater, Animals as Leaders, Steve Wilson & Gavin Harrison of Porcupine Tree and many others have praised Meshuggah for their innovative sound . . .
Here is Maestro *Rick Beato* on Meshuggah (the "sound"): ruclips.net/video/ZKIR2ncZlpk/видео.html
And: ruclips.net/video/8BR6NovtywQ/видео.html
Continued . . .
Maybe not all of Dream Theater, but for sure Mike Portnoy - he said several times, that he likes them a lot ...
@@rudolfbecker4313 Petrucci has mentioned them. I think even Rudess, I'd have to find that comment.
I liked it! It reminded me of Pantera for sure! It's too bad you guys don't like growling because Jinjer is AMAZING musically, but the growling would be too much, although she's not growling all the time... I think you reacted to Pisces, but I can't remember your reaction... I'll go watch it right now if there is one...
I have 2 words for you: movie quote
I was too shocked to remember the quote! 😂 By the time I did the video was almost over so figured I’d save it for next time! 😜
Its ironic, I can't get into Jinjer, I think because it seems to me all the tracks I've heard have a bit of that "Mathcore" quality to the music. Everyone made a HUGE deal that "Wow, this woman can do the Guttural vocals!", but there was the 2 female vocalists for Arch Enemy years before, and before that the vocalist for the German Thrash/Death Metal band "Holy Moses". And from a few years ago there was the vocalist for the Russian Folk Metal band "Arkona", all 3 bands are different than Jinjer but as heavy (maybe heavier).
Keep in mind too that the more you listen to various era's of Meshuggah, you'll find they are VERY different and more technical in "odd" ways than Pantera. Meshuggah in the early days were always being compared to them because of the "4/4" groove. But hey! Glad you liked them! :)
I found a lot of pantera vibes in there, but yeah, different musicians and different musical decisions make me like Pantera far more, even with things like Primal Concrete Sledge.
That is my FAVE Pantera track. I think if you liked that, eventually you could get into Meshuggah. Pantera came 1st for me as well, but Meshuggah was a WHOLE 'nuther animal.
I listen to a lot of heavier music but never can ever dig the demon growl. Need a vocalist.
Can music be much heavier than this ? I know a lot, but Meshuggah is on top of the range, I can take ... for me are Machine Head (older stuff until The Blackening) and Nevermore hard enough. But I'm always open for new music, especially in metal, there is so much music but no real platform to spread it ... so maybe you have 2 - 3 must-hear for me ... thank you
#nicknlexrequest KILLING JOKE - Asteroid. It's the only really heavy music I deliberately listen to from time to time.
La conosco da almeno 20 anni e riesce sempre a muovermi delle emozioni incredibili
Your channel's logo and color scheme is remniscent of 80s and 90s porn movie title design :D
I thought your channel would exclusively be mainly into reviewing or reacting to 80s and 90s electropop like roxette, depeche mode, alphaville etc. :D It just sits so well with everything about your channel and both of your personalities. Porn vibes ftw
I've loved metal for years, but this was one band I never "caught the wave of". I can appreciate the complexity of it, but I just never connected with it. Nothing wrong with a little chaos in your music now and again, but this band's sound is like being put through a stump grinder. I guess their name makes sense, though. Meshuggah is Yiddish for "crazy". A lot of people love it, though. Again, I love heavy music as well as "lighter" music, so I hope this one doesn't dissuade you from trying out other prog-metal bands, or other metal bands. I doubt it would, though, since you both seem pretty open-minded to give things a chance. You never know.
Speaking as another metalhead, I totally agree. I have huge respect for the band but they’ve never really grabbed me.
I like a bit of progressive metal, but this one may be a bridge too far. I'm watching to support the channel. I don't mind being called too soft when it comes to this. This may cause me to "Run to the Hills."
Well, that was something. I liked the clean section. I can deal with harsh vocals in some cases, but the music has to be really good to make up for it.
I walked away after he said it’s to heavy.
Hola chicos, como están? Que buena onda, a mi me gusta mucho este estilo de musica, lastima que mi señora me lo hace sacar cuando lo escucho jajaja jajaja. Pero quieren escuchar el mismo estilo en castellano? Escuchen "Plan 4" cualquier tema. Es una aplanadora. Abrazos desde Buenos Aires
this song sound like early system of a down but with more prog
Please react to Thantifaxath - Ocean of Screaming spheres
The song that gave birth to djent.
Since it came out this been my vote for heaviest song ever. but it has a few contenders to the title, perhaps
I can aporeciate the muscianship, especially during the breakdown. This sort of stuffs never really done it for me though, the growling puts me off to be honest, always has with these sort of bands. Napalm Death were quite fun with their two second songs, but I always thought their tongues were firmly in their cheeks. I got off the metal bus when Metallica came along to be honest, there's no swing to it for me. All the best heavy or hard rock bands (as we called it in the 70's), had a swing about them, Bill Ward sounds like a jazz drummer. Of course living in the UK the new wave of metal Maiden, Saxon etc were also great, and of course the mighty Motorhead, who had a huge following amongst the punk as well as the metal community. Maybe I'm just getting old but I'm not averse to the more extreme outer reaches of music, big Can fan, even like a bit of Crass sometimes if I'm in the mood. But it's good to keep an open mind, and give something a chance without blindly dismissing it. Just not my thing.
You are both so very kind, but it’s okay to stop halfway through, run around the room screaming, and then grab a few of Tony’s other CDs and say, “We’re now going to randomly select the first song on one of Tony’s other CDs.” 😀 #diedeathmetaldie
. . . . I LIKE THAT :D!
@@mvunit3 Marley is still running circles on the carpet. Lol jk. Hugs to all and every taste. You hinted at this one, Tony, so I was ready. Lol. ✨🤪✨
@@michelemichele3375 - so Marley is doing what the lead guitarist Fredrik Thordendal does on stage :P But in place as he does his weird "atmospheric" sounds :P.
Good, honest reaction. You keep interrupting your girlfriend though which bothered me enough to comment on it.
Sorry, but most of this "song" is absolutely horrid. Lexa was very brave to listen to it.
Haters gonna hate 😂
Man let her speak ffs xD
If you arent into groove metal, then Meshuggah isnt for you
Try Animals as Leaders. This style is known as Djent.
Tomas Haake:
ruclips.net/video/ba2X4r12lv4/видео.html
For the movie "Barry Lyndon", Kubrick had a special camera made in order to film intimate scenes by candlelight. There are extended moments in progressive music where such an ear candle is called for. But not a usual ear candle, but rather, she said, an unusual ear candle. One that picks up subtle details in the near quietude called into play by the creators or performers of the music. But, as the Byrds and the Bible say...to everything, a season. Even , yes, barbaric yawps within the roofs of the world.
There were a few months when a nephew was all about wrestling. You kind of resemble him. Thank God he outgrew that phase. He happened to be listening to music largely consisting of similar over-testosteronied barbarism, and alls I gotta say is that most of what is new is shite. This song would be interesting were it not for the hideous yelling. Schopenhauer warned us long ago. And the Ludi Magister. Glad y'all are panning for gold. And finding. Loved the Genesis concert, btw.
Funny, I enjoy all the bands you mentioned as I grew up with it all. I have to have my dose of heaviness that Richard Wagner has "influenced" now and again, I'll never out grow it in my 58 years. There is a place in time that you understand things you didn't understand before, and then a wider world opens. At the same time I'm VERY picky, but one mans meat is another mans poison. I can live with that.
@@mvunit3 Exactly. Paul Simon used: “One Man’s Ceiling is Another Man’s Floor.” Lol. In my case, the elevator doesn’t go all the way to the top. Haha. Hugs 🤗
Well that was awful. #nicknlexrequest, please reconsider XTC! You reacted to "English Roundabout" which is not a particularly stand-out song of theirs, and you were obviously underwhelmed. But they have some truly great songs and albums ("Oranges and Lemons"!) so please give them another chance, for example... "The Mayor of Simpleton" ruclips.net/video/bugeea9nkgY/видео.html
Were they underwhelmed?