Sturla Ellingvåg on Vikings, Norse Myths, Genetic Memory & Connecting the Longer Lines in History
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2023
- Sturla Ellingvåg is the historian behind @VikingStories.
He is associated with the Max Planck Institute in Germany, and is convinced that history has to be studied in a broader context than current fashion allows.
He traces Viking culture back to the Bronze Age and sees Viking raids as a pre-emptive defense against the onslaught of the "sword Christendom" of the Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne. Ellingvåg takes us through Norse mythology, its connection to Greek mythology and society and how it may reflect reality in unexpected ways.
Where the gods actually historical human beings and did the vikings become more resilient through these stories?
Joins us as we delve into the Norse sense of life and discuss the power of their stories.
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Chapter markers:
00:31 Introducing Ellingvåg
01:04 Thinking across time
04:57 The Pre-emptive warfare of the vikings
10:27 Vikings: Democracy and Individualism
16:06 Elite marriage and "blue blood"
19:01 English Law is Norman Law
22:06 Starkad and the viking mentality
27:57 Scandinavian-Mediterranean contact
36:25 Scandinavian virgins at the Oracle of Delphi
43:51 Height differences and the sun winning over darkness
47:37 Norse gods: actual historical peoples?
53:57 The blood brothers Odin and Loke
56:15 Catastrophes cemented in myths
59:47 Metamorphosis of gods over time
1:05:31 Odin's search for knowledge
1:10:03 Shamanic journeys and living like animals
1:13:47 Genetic memory and canalization
1:19:53 Reconnecting through mythology
1:24:45 Ragnarok & Regeneration
This episode featured Sturla Ellingvåg & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a reproduction of the painting "Tor's fight with the Giants" (1872) by Mårten Eskil Winge.
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I knowing know I'm late to the party, but holy moly. My life is changed after watching this video. So many of these thoughts I've had myself and am exploring but you have helped further broaden the scope of my lens. Huge fan of the work you're doing, guys. I resonate with a lot of what was being said and find the concept of genetic Memory fascinating.
Thanks for inviting Sturla, Jan. Sturla is a man capable of independent thinking, a rare gift. Supported by scientific knowledge such a man may travel far, and that's just what he did, apparently, since he ventured 12000 years into the chasm of our past. I'm fairly curious.
Cheers.
This is so accurate. I 100% believe in cell memory. The more I study my ancestors culture the more I realize I am practicing it without having been taught.
What cultural practices are you engaging in and what activity specifically have you noticed yourself performing with near to full ease? This is fascinating to me and I’d love to know what your experience was like. I intend to do a DNA test in 2024 so that I can then look at the cultures income from and learn more
As a Westerner I’ve studied ancient Far Eastern esoteric traditions and authentic occult practices since very young and had the privilege and honour of experiencing many a strange phenomenon which humbled me and gave me an unwavering faith in myself-part of me was always aware that these were practices that even my own ancient blood was familiar with despite it being from a culture and a racial-group across the globe, and then looking into the Interconnectedness of the Indo-European peoples and their transcontinental civilisation I realised that these same advanced esoteric practices were likely also practiced by people on the very isles I grew up on as well.
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 Did you study through academic journal, scholastic sources, the library, or a Gaia website? My Maternal Grandparents were Saami from Tromso. I know of no historical record of ancient occult except what was introduced through Rosicrucian and freemasonry masonic movements much after the fact in the mid 18th century. So I would be curious if what you studied was Aleister Crowley, the founder of Wicca, Neopaganism, archeological interpretation of Shamanism, etc
@@annpierce9250 I actually stole ebooks from online as a teen😂
And no I took books authored by various masters online ranging from Shinto mysticism, Chinese & Tibetan Qi Gong, Indian Yoga etc. Absolutely amazing stuff which multiple authors now claim arrived in the Far East in the hands of Indo-European Neolithic Pagans.
Not just the cells the actual d.n.a the memories the mistakes the success of all you're ancestors the memory,s of you're blood its why say some one pulls a gun on you some freeze and shike some run and or run and shike now some get mad and either triumph or die why some are predispositioned for certain skills and ideas e.t.c
@VikingStories is one of my favorite channels. Thank you for having him on yours.
My ancestors give me strenght.
Thank you for this interview. I love talks that almost hurt my brain! I’m a retired visual artist who has always been inspired by Mythology, especially Celtic and 100% believe in genetic memory even before dna tests clarified my heritage for me. As a women, our history is almost never spoken of. I heard a science author talk about how intrinsic memory especially in females reaches back in time, as a woman’s mother’s eggs are formed in her grandmother’s uterus during gestation. Hence passing along trauma and other memory traits affected by experiences from that grandmother. I’m a mother, grandmother, a Canadian born of Highland Scots, Irish and Norse people. The older I get, the more connections to and answers for my ancient memories and traits. So, so interesting.
Thank you for your reply I would love to know what experiences you’ve had specifically. Do you have memories that are not or your own? Do you remember languages that are not any you’ve spoken before? Do you get any closed eye visuals, dreams, “visions”, etc of your ancestors or those who were before you? What connections have you found yourself noticing? What connections have you found impacted your life most? As much detail as you can provide would be appreciated gratefully.
On the runes being more like greek letters: an Alexander - medal/coin was dug out of a field in Sweden some years back..
Thanks for this wonderful message that helps me understand my intuitiveness. I have learned so much today through the work you both do. If you have no fear of unknown things, you can pull strength for the future.
Lynn in Naples FL 💕
Adding that knowing the past gives knowledge for the future. Lynn
Sturla Ellingvåg is a great Historian!
Great discussion, I would like to hear more from Sturla.
He has a fantastic channel. His videos have taught me a lot.
Yes Transcend
Fantastic i love this DNA remembering ❤️
Amazing video. Thanks for putting it out there.
I love listening to Sturla!
Very enjoyable, two of my favorite youtubers at once, great!
I enjoyed the discussion topic! I thought that the information you shared on genetic memory was really great. I have been looking for more information on the pre-history of the Vikings, which you covered very well!
Great video & great channel! I’ve seen one or two of Sturla’s interviews before and always appreciated that he’s clearly a wise man but the things he went into today and hinted at made me realise he’s on-top of the most groundbreaking discoveries about the Interconnectedness of the European peoples and our great ancient legacies across the globe! Great interview-subbed!
Ditto
What a superb conversation! Thank you for bringing such tremendous insights into our heritage.❤
Loved this!
Start your timecode at 00:00 chaps, the chapters don't show up on the timeline unless you do. Great work
This is a fascinating academic area. An excellent discussion.
Amazing video and interview my friend 👍😀
You should interview swedish professor Anders Kaliff about Nordic bronze age (and indoeuropean culture/mythology) as the cradle. Also professor Anders Winroth in Oslo have similar views!!!
Correction: 19:01 does not mention that "English law is Norman law." William ("the conquerer") divested the natives of property in favor of Normans,, but did not totally dismantle the administrative practices already in place in certain regions, because some were recognized as effective and efficient, and some pre-Norman usages were codified in law.
I do not however, agree with the concept of "genetic memory" in relation to myths.
Anyone know the spellings of the shamans he mentions at 1:10:50 who had nasal abnormalities that allowed them to enter trances easier?
Genetic memory could be the key to prove reincarnation through your bloodline is true.
The most important part of the story of I1 probably involves I2. I2 is probably Cro Magnon (Early Modern European). Either I1 or I2 seem to be the population in whom the D-allele emerged that is connected to microcephalin regulation - brain size. That gene surfed to high frequency quickly, meaning it conferred an advantage of some kind. More important is the fact that Cro Magnon's larger body and brain (compared to either Neanderthals or Homo Sapiens of the time) came from something called _hybrid vigor,_ and millennia later, when the 5'10" Yamnaya came in and made babies with the daughters of I1, it looks like these hitherto separate populations enjoyed another bump of hybrid vigor, resulting in the Vikings. I1s are all over the world, but still remain mostly where they started, in Scandinavia. That suggests to me that what ever drove the Yamnaya to invade and colonize Europe, it may have been somehow linked to y-DNA rather than autosomal DNA. If that's the case, then the term "colonizer" would be a poor fit for I1 males, lol. That's probably asking too much from the data, but it would be hysterically funny to me if proven. I'm an I1 male but stand 5'10".
Can you please list who is interviewing Sturla? Why is Jan's name not written anywhere?
Thanks for this beautiful talk. In talks like this which dependent on academic studies and folklore I would expect sources to be given so that listeners can check if the information given is actually true. Of course, he talks knowledge and perspective and not only data or information, yet still it would be better if sources that support his arguments were given plainly.
Also, as a Turk, it suprised me that there are hypotehises on Attila being Oden. I knew that Attila effected Germanic culture as he is also in Nibelungen as Etzel. Though, I think it is unlikely that cult of Attila could shape or originate Oden, maybe influenced in some ways.
Also, I found arguments on DNA far-fetched. If you also had a biologist who study on that spesific field, they would have some things to say on that, I believe.
Still, I loved the perspectives he offers. As a Neo-Tengrist myself, I felt it like a massage to my brain and on my thoughts and feelings on how to shape or find my spirituality.
very nice, hermeneutical discussion. I will have to note though, that in Swedish, 'rokk' means 'coat' (norw.:frakk) - not spinning wheel (Norw.: rokk)
Svenska: spinnrock
The Germanic people understood how brain injuries effect consciousness: one hemisphere controlling conscious Thought (Huginn) the other unconscious Memory (Muninn). In relief Odin appears to wear a horned helm, but in 3D the Ravens (stylised to resemble horns) clearly fly straight from these hemispheres.
Disney bluebirds twitter over the head of the concussed
but, in normal brains, Odin's bluebirds chatter and
Rave.
PIE *wod-eno-, *wod-ono- "raging, mad, inspired."
Perhaps genetic memory is less about our human DNA and more about our human microbiome. After all, we are less than half human when we include bacteria, fungi, and other microbes living in and on us. The microbiome start our decomposition when we die, and can live on in the soils and living entities they come in contact with.
Norwegian Nathan Fillion
I don't buy Euhemerism. I believe this was a device used by those who wrote the stories down in order to keep their works from being censored and burned by the church.
For the Euhemerist ideal to be a historical fact, the age of these stories has to be backdated much, much further in time than many currently are if they are to be inclusive of all of the ancient cultures that told versions of them. Thór, for example, is also likened to Indra of the Rig Veda, as well as Perkunas of the Slavic regions, Taranis among the Celts, and Hercules among the Greeks. We'd have to go back at least that far, likely to as far back as prior to the first waves out from the steppe.
Something rings wrong with parts of that dating for them to all be based upon the same living figure, enough that Euhemerism seems to have been more of a survival tactic than a legitimate potential fact.
Dude, pick a lane. You're jumbling up the timelines and the DNA. And your story is just wrong.
From what I understand is that the Norse Vikings killed their own. That is not cool and nothing to be proud of
Could you be a lot more specific? That is a very vague and broad assertion. However, I observe that there is no culture in history that does not have some myths or records of tribes killing their own people on memorable occasions. Have you ever read a Greek tragedy?
More than be more specific - give specific examples.
@@simonestreeter1518 lol Warlords Pagans Pirates Clans Tribes ect. they all did the same thing. A Greek tragedy no to much drama. I love History and I'm trying to sort out My own. So far Greek and Roman are not part of it.
So you focus on that one aspect and discount their entire culture and history?😅
@@nonmups9973 No! the fact is I can't because it is part of My history but I don't have to think it is cool or even be proud of it.
Have you ever invited a lady? Apparently not. It looks like you might suffer from the same misogyny that led Michael Diamant to remove me from debate for being too consistent on traditional architecture.
Actually, we have had several guests of the fairer sex, but we are not obsessed with gender equality. Anyways, we might have had more if the women had been less hesitant about accepting our invitations 😊
We love a rich and philosophical discussion and are always looking for potential guests, so if you have any suggestions, our ears are listening 🦻
@@CaveofApelles That's odd because when I scrolled back I could only see male guests. I'd say invite me, but then I'm not a social media personality.
@@sarahahmed113 Please send us an email to talk@caveofapelles.com so you can present yourself properly and then we will consider it 👍
@@CaveofApelles If my books will ever be published you won't need introductory emails.
@@yaltavar Sadly for you, you will never know who I am.
I'm sorry but this discussion about one ruler and one god is equal to totalitarianism and democracy and individualism of the Germanic north is both puerile and wrong. Nordic society was not democratic no matter how much Sturla Ellingvag wishes to spin this!
The ting could overrule, even replace the king. Nuff said.