@@TheBrownSpartan: Ironically, if a former JW does a dastardly deed with a gun, it shows the paradox that *only law-abiding* citizens need to apply for a permit. Who knows when an upstanding pillar will topple?
@@TheBrownSpartan: Exactly: Just like the days of Noah: normal people going about their business -- but got caught up in the deluge. Some laughed at Noah's Ark since it *had not rained* on the Earth before. The JWs are preaching and warning others to seek the love of God: Many are turning their backs.
@@janetprice85no they are not good when they change scripture to their own cult agendas and deceive others to same pit they heading,… btw I’m not advocating hate or violence to anyone God will avenge. I call them Satan witnesses.
DENVER 7 Thank you for keeping us updated. News stories that are reported with honesty & integrity are shared globally by the community of the Army of Apostates aka Whistleblowers ⚖️
Dear Tall Ku Wmm: Are you from the _Army of Apostates?_ Pray-tell: If you rail against the JW organization, what form of worship do you have to replace it with?
@@A0.917: Certainly, that Tall Kul Wmn is not telling us anything. The Army of Apostates, are aggravators, rebels, and renegades that have nothing positive to offer God's people.
@@KeithBryantOfficialwhy? What if someone said they were happy about one of your family members dying this is just sad how people don’t even care about a Jehovah’s witnesses death like we are good people and we are respectful and we are all human
@@gayleroslund10: The Roman Bishops won't take it back: A commercial celebration, consternation the community. People with *too much family* they can't afford -- huh -- tends to backfire on the backed up. Praying for a religion that would free them from this family obligation. JW has found an oasis.
Pray for them, let us not be judgemental, I'm celebrating drinking hot egg nog with brandy, listening to Christmas carols, cooking a rib eye roast with carrots and potatoes, and thanking God for good health and roof over my head! Amen
@@wonderbread2364 There's nothing wrong with alcohol in moderation. Obviously don't drink it if you have a history of addiction or if you have a family history of addiction.
@@Sittingstraight12 Before you cast opinions about something said it is in your best interest to make sure that you fully understand the statement and the angle at which the individual is coming from.
It's really sad the very group of people that bother no one and this happens to them. My prayers and love goes out to them and their families. Whether they celebrate the holiday's or not no one deserves this to happen to them.
they bother no one? it's a sect and it's freaking awful what they force upon their children who never made a conscious choice to devote their life to their meaningless cause.
@@eatabowlofshit they were both members of the sect, all their life resolves around their religion, there is nothing that isn't connected to religion when you are a member of a religious sect.
To the family condolences! I know you don't celebrate but still what a tragic event that more than likely could've been prevented. PTSD from harsh discipline can cause a person to feel suicidal. I hope that everyone involved gets the love and support during this time.
Dear Kimberly Sanchez: How do grown people find the substance of character to seek improvement in this new PC era, where if trivial things are taken away, this can cause some form of mental health situation? Criminals will no longer exist since crime will be cloaked with mental illness. Instead of locking them up, communities want to coddle them with psychiatric care.
@@eddyvideostar Well all part of the paradise facade, sounds good but reality is that doesn't help or matter in present issues. I understand where you are coming from! But living under that pretense doesn't solve the reality at hand. The religion has caused so many people suicidal thoughts and I now know 3 who succeeded. One was at the federal heights police department in the 80's early 90's took her life by self inflicted gun shot. So the question remains WHY?
You are responsible for your own actions. The organization simply aides you to live by Bible principles. If you can’t do that then don’t go. It’s that simple
@@b.v3151 it would seem to be that simple wouldn't it. But unfortunately it's not. It would have been better to have some resemblance of understanding, love, respect for family, respect for the abused in my situation but there unfortunately wasn't, leaving is easier said than done! The weapon to the head for leaving is family but I know now that you can't lose what you never had to begin with. I know my parents lived me before I turned 8 years old when they became witnesses and for those years I'm grateful for the memories of love as a family unit! After 8 years old well I have some fond memories of love I'll treasure but few and far between riddled with conditions if I fail them or God. It was hard living in fear of the loss of them but I only had their unconditional love for 8 years. If you love something set it free if it comes back it's meant to be! Well it's gone so as I said 8 years I had unconditional love and I'll be forever grateful for those 8 years. Rape is not fornication and love between a husband and wife shouldn't hurt physically or mentally, when a husband is married to the bottle and not his wife and is condoned by spiritual leaders well even that goes beyond all of my comprehension, spiritually and morally! I'm truly sorry that the mental health in this situation caused so much unrepairable damage to themselves and the ones who more than likely loves them still as family. Not spiritual family blood family. Regardless of whether or not those involved in my situation here in Colorado care it not, I could care less let me make myself clear! They may feel they took away my family and my love for my God but they are wrong! I will love my parents and my God untill the day I die!
When you say you spoke to a “witness” do you mean a Jehovah’s Witness or a witness witness? And if they are a Jehovah’s Witness does that make them a Jehovah’s Witness witness?
Wow, people just died regardless if they were religious or not yet you wanna ridicule exactly as foretold on 2 Peter 3:3. Psalm 123:4. You just boosted my faith even more.
They don't believe in getting help for mental issues. All handled in the congregation paradise will take care of it. Repercussions for going to therapist's
@@kimberlysanchez5260We had young child come to with internal bleeding from a car accident. The parents refused transfusions on religious grounds. New York law allowed for the child to be made a ward of the State for treatment. The child lived, and the parents were still unable to accept their folly.
@@jamesmcdonald5026 yeah that's a tough one because they were true parents unlike mine who were trying to follow their hearts values! In either case they feel like failures because of forced beliefs. Thankfully the government gets involved to save young people.
@@yanethcheng3375: This is true. I heard this. Now, this is very sad and grave. They had the truth of the kingdom and threw it away. Apostates make me very nervous. Anything is possible with them: They lead people astray, condemn and criticize, combined with having nothing to replace it with -- except doom and despair.
@@eddyvideostar eat shit scum. Your demonic bullshit fucking cult is going down. Just a month ago your “elders” were caught again covering up abuse and child abuse. You sick fux would be burning in the deepest pit of hell if there ever was one. Fuckibg scumbags make me sick.
@@rodgerwoods4971 don't kid yourself, things aren't so straight forward even if Real demons exist it's Mankind who let them in, it's through a human beings hands the destruction is caused, the demon you believe in can only influence the human, we are still the real demons, pal! Go ahead, throw any filter you want on there, it's still the absolute truth!!! The Devil can't do his work but for Man who lets him!
God is great, the omnipresent, the alpha and the Omega, proclaiming the end from the beginning, the omnipotent, the Jehovah Jireh, Yahweh Raphael, Yahweh Nissi, Yahweh Shalom, Yahweh Rohi, Yahweh Tsidkenu, and Yahweh Yeshua, my salvation, my God and my peace, this is Alexandria's mom Diana, may all those who love the Lord say Amen!
@@brockhershey414 you share the same name with a pedophile, either that or you are the pedophile that @ItsHaleyRG made video about. That right there is boo hoo.
@@Boundlesslylit You share the name of a convicted killer. I take it you love to take human lives you sicko! You have a special place in hell my friend.
This is information that I learned from my aunt, who is a JW: If you are a JW, you need to stop trying to “Witness” to these people on this chat, as you’ll expose yourself to APOSTATES! APOSTATES will keep you going with their endless negative rants about JWs (regardless of whether or not it’s factual). You can’t do anything to change people who will always have a negative view towards JWs…so stop using RUclips as a platform to try. (I know enough about the religion from my aunt.)
Dear Queen Domination: I concur with your tenet of -- huh -- shunning the apostates: However, this is a regular *news broadcast video,* not an apostate comment board. Therefore, some are getting in their two cents (the two coins) -- that the good souls can send to shame the stultified sempiternal sinners. The JW-GB recommends shunning the apostates on all mediums, but I think it's unfair that the whole world sees their chat room with no one rebutting: It's one-sided and hurts the good news of the kingdom, taking away credibility.
@@eddyvideostar Well then you have a lot of work to do if you want to do damage control. "Apostates" are growing by the thousands every year. Apostate is just a word used by JWs to dehumanize people who left the religion that tell the truth about it. If anyone else is reading this...look up all of the child sex cases within Jehovahs witnesses. The elders are instructed to not report cases to the police. Its in the elders handbook. A simple search will prove it
@@eddyvideostar I hear you. The point that I’m making is that people will say what they want about the religion if they don’t like it…PERIOD…and they can do NOTHING to change it. I’m seeing enough defensive JW arguments here that are raising my eyebrows, as I know they’re not supposed to be on RUclips chats making these posts. Granted, I get the fact that people feel wholeheartedly about their religion. However, not everyone will want to be a JW, as they have their views about the organization that they’re wholeheartedly entitled to.
What in the world!! I've never seen or head this at a kingdom hall! I mean why at the kingdom hall of all places? Wow! Sad! But I'm glad no one else was hurt.
We still live in this world that is ruled by satan and we're all imperfect, look into what's going on in russia and how the gov is going inside the halls and beating our bros and sisters, the end is very near and thing's will continue to get worse for us all.
Do these horrific murders (in churches and grammar schools), settle the question of whether there is a god or not? I mean…honestly…where is he? Can we assume he’s just watching? With folded arms?
@@christopherp.hitchens3902 this is Not of God.. this is a characteristic of man and having a murderous heart...God spoke against and forbids murder...
@@thelasttimeitried kind of pessimistic to say that isn't it... God gives me a reason what has man done for you anyway besides destroy one another and this world
Hope it's not one of those people who didn't get the love and acceptance they needed from the congregation. Like non Jehovahs, queers, jews, Muslims, and everyone else who isn't in their exclusive faith community. Or one of the kids or adults who got excommunicated.
@@Quigley_Underdowno Christmas, no Easter, no birthday, no new year’s, no Halloween, I can go on. Oh and if anyone is seriously ill where their only option to live is a blood transfusion…. They must choose to let them die. ( but of course that’s if they are jw’s ) a more believable name for their brain washing cult.
Actually, Jehovah's witnesses are not a cult.. As you know Cults believe in what they hear without researching.. See most believe what they are being taught without looking for themselves.. Jehovahs witnesses on the other hand, they do research, study etc..they don't take a man's word for it by just listening, sit and walk out and believe what was told to them.. They actually open their Bibles..and you also don't get baptized unless you have accurate knowledge.. Babies do not get baptized as they can not get baptized without accurate knowledge
Oh shut up. Guns are fine. Guns are safe. Can’t ruin nor stifle peoples second amendment right to own a gun so long as they are law abiding citizens with no felonies. Also who cares if guns are used in a suicide? People die all the time. Who cares?!
Into a relationship with Jesus? We witnesses? Sir...please do your research. We are JEHOVAH's CHRISTIAN WITNESSES and we have Jesus on a grand scale. He is our King and our Savior and he is Jehovah's dear son. Not as the churches lie and defame by saying Jehovah and Jesus are one and the same. For that lie, the churches of the United States which propagate a lie in Satan's name will have to pay their full. So I ask you to please come into a relationship with both Jehovah and Jesus if you do not want to be judged for eternal damnation on the day of Jehovah's wrath. Amen
@@amadisdee6054 Damnation/wrath/scorn/hellfire/etc...i grew up w all that as a JW...terrible to inject fear of such a force that loves to inject pain and suffering because it got mad at an angel...theres just too much suffering to even imagine a loving force. This force sounds to be of a very negative content if it don't get its way,reminds me of a taliban nature.alfa evils...I will not be herded into this slaughter house of fear ...
That is devastating. Just ask the guys and gals that have been married 4 times. It causes so much damage, that they can never recover. They have PSTD forever.
What facts do you have? It could happen anywhere else, but not always inside. Get the facts first, then develop a bit of wisdom as to what you figure happened. Former members means they were not JW's. Tragic either way when loved ones are lost.
What's the difference between a cult and Christianity? A religion belongs to the wider culture; its adherents come and go freely. A cult tends to be counter-cultural, restricting the social life of its adherents to other cult members.
@@olchat2012 yes because I’m sure they waged war with you. Everyone had their pitch forks and bibles with them while they held you hostage and beat you to a pulp. Whatever you have to say I can say with certainty is incredibly one sided. I could be wrong but if it’s a case of disfellowshipping, then you might as well let yourself out cuz that’s already no one’s fault but yours. Sorry they told you to have respect and be a clean person🥺😑 as a matter of fact here’s the door 🚪
I agree actually also Jehovah's Witness also believe that if people cheat on their partner is not grounds for divorve if the person their partner is cheating with is of the same sex of the same gender then the marriage does not break down it is not grounds for divorce and also if someone has sex with animals they do not believe it is grounds for divorce either they excuse this with the bible text 1 Corinthians 15:39 which says that someone of the same sex of the same gender and animal's are not the same flesh because they cannot procreate together.
Oh brother.. this happens everywhere.. stop thinking you are a group that’s persecuted. And it all stems to them being controlled by the governing body. Doctrine can change in and they all have to abide by it. They cause persecution to their followers.
@@Sittingstraight12 According to the journal, Social Compass.......... "Viewed globally, this persecution has been so persistent and of such an intensity that it would not be inaccurate to regard Jehovah's witnesses as the most persecuted religion of the twentieth century".
@@Sittingstraight12 Acts 28:22 "But we think it proper to hear from you what your thoughts are, for truly as regards this sect (cult), we know that it is spoken against everywhere.” As can clearly be seen, the early Christians were also referred to as a cult and "spoken against" everywhere just as Jehovah's Witnesses are. So I'd like to thank you and others like you for showing people through your abusive speech and conduct towards them that they are the true followers of Christ.
@@donald2306 I suppose, hiding their pedophilia problem is Christlike, how they change the Bible, according to how their belief is. Adding words and taking out words. I think you need to get an update and do research on them yourself. If you’re a witness and you don’t do research on your own organization, except through their website and their literature, shame on you. they worship the governing body, because if you go and say anything against them, you are called an apostate. They are men, and you do not put your trust in noble men. And they put their full trust in the governing body. They like to think that they are going to reign with Jesus. I have my facts straight. I am not ashamed of what I call them. when you watch the website with Anthony Morris, talking about Norway, and that they don’t get viewed as a religion or their religious rights taken away, he’s very vague about it. Can you just sit there and listen to what they say, the things they spew, and you let them tickle your ears. Do you even know if, you are a witness why Norway took away their rights as a religion? They still can worship as Jehovah’s Witnesses, and have the kingdom hall, but they can’t get the grants that Norwegians give from their taxes to all the religions in that country. So they are pissed off that they’re out of $1.5 million. That’s why they’re pissed at Norway. And of course Anthony Morris does not bring that to their attention. If you truly feel like, you’re a follower of Jesus and Jesus said, payback, Cesar, Caesars, things, and God things to God, why, then, don’t say sets example to pay taxes. But all the members must pay taxes. But if you truly believe you’re a follower of Christ , you would, they would go ahead and pay taxes, setting the example. Witnesses love to get funding from government, because it’s free money. I feel this way with all religions. They should not be taxed exempt. Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t do anything for the poor, there was an active sister, that I’m friends with come on, and she lost her job and didn’t have any food, and had to wait to get food stamps, nobody of the elders helped her out because she wasn’t coming to the kingdom hall. So do that . How much do witnesses actually help each other. When devastation happens, like Katrina, the brothers, rebuilt homes for the friends, only for the friends to give back their insurance money to the organization. I was there, I saw this. So, if you’re a witness, why don’t you put your big boy panties on, and do some research on what you believe and who you worship.
@@SimpleLifeAlways81 I always like to say" well most world religions walk in, sit, listen and walk out without even looking at a Bible they believe what's told to them without even looking " That is a cult..whereas Witnesses research, study and get accurate knowledge.. Hugs...
@@SimpleLifeAlways81 JWs completely obey men who are uninspired of God's holy spirt, without question or confirming it in scripture or praying about it. Doing so would be wrong? Scary! Blind obedience to your human leaders, whether they are wrong or right, is considered worshipping God? Doesn't sound like christianity but something else that start with C and ends with T.
@@DavidLS1 They were trying to be funny about murder on Christmas, as is tradition. The joke might have landed if the comedian had capitalized "Witnesses."
@@horizonblack No, I got the joke. Actually, it wasn't half bad. I don't know why I wrote a serious response to it. By the way, I posted a joke about it too. I asked if each of the victims will now get his own planet.
I think one of the dumbest things I’ve heard about this situation.. “ it’s a wonder why the bombs didn’t go off inside the hall.. def Jehovahs hand to protect the brothers” Guess god didn’t care for them enough to help them. But hey.. the Kingdom Hall is safe. 🤣🤣🤣
@@WeeWeeJumboFirst 22 years of my life unfortunately. Leaving was the best choice I ever made. A large amount of the people are good people, but that organization is evil
@@mattmcl64 I feel it would be accurate to say that about most of the 4200+ faiths in the world. Maybe Buddhism might be one of the few exceptions, but I ain't here to rub a dude's belly.
@CupKate I know all to well about the Witnesses. I have been married to an ex Witness for the last 28 years. But the media is just trying to get attention putting that in the storyline so people will see. People killed on Christmas of any faith is always front page news the media doesn't care.
Their chuch's have no windows, that religion is a cult. Worst religion to get sucked into. 🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏃♀️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️🏃away from this cult.
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:14-16 KJV 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:16 KJV 24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. 26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? 27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Matthew 16:24-27 KJV
Oh stop. No one hates ya. Ya love victimhood. I was in that cult since the late 70s. They robbed my childhood. You keep acting like there’s an anthropomorphic deity in the sky over looking man affairs. The hypocrisy especially towards women. Stop being a victim ya robbed and ruined more lives and earn whatever ya get but this wasn’t a witness thing plz read before crying that someone after you.
It wasn’t even in the Kingdom Hall it was outside on the street, I swear these video titles be doing the most 🤦🏽♂️
"At", bro.
Not "In".
@@shakykeys6578
You are incorrect...if you are actually inside the building, you are IN it, not AT it.
@@danni1993 You can be both
@@danni1993 thats the point they weren’t inside the building they were outside of it
@@shakykeys6578 it can actually be both...
Very sad! I'm sorry for your loss! My condolences and prayers for y'all! May she Rest in peace
Prayers are what likely got them into this situation.
@Michelle If you yell, it makes it true.
@Michelle this comment don't make any sense for this Situation
@A C No it was you?
@Michelle Grow up. Idiot
What a terrible tragedy!
Was that interview with a witness or a Witness?
I see what you did there
Clever clever 🤣🤣
Both 🤣
I too was confused.
Just a Jehovah.
We spoke with a “witness”.
Very sad.
not really
Too much violence in the world..
Yes Sir👍, and far too many guns in unstable hands.
The Great Tribulation, and believe it or not, it's going to get more horrible than we can imagine.
@@alicewonder1687 I believe that the only way that our future will be grave is if the good people fail to do anything.
@@TheBrownSpartan: Ironically, if a former JW does a dastardly deed with a gun, it shows the paradox that *only law-abiding* citizens need to apply for a permit. Who knows when an upstanding pillar will topple?
@@TheBrownSpartan: Exactly: Just like the days of Noah: normal people going about their business -- but got caught up in the deluge.
Some laughed at Noah's Ark since it *had not rained* on the Earth before.
The JWs are preaching and warning others to seek the love of God: Many are turning their backs.
That's my adopted son's congregation. It didn't happen at 7:30. It happened at 9am.
The media needs to go down. It's nefarious and disgusting
@@BBBB-nd8pl 😂😂😂😂 for what reporting two people were shot?
@@Justmekpc nope. The media mis reports and uses everything to put fear into others. Why is that funny to you? Are you ok?
Two ppl attacked ...why does the time matter ?
@@BBBB-nd8pl like?
Unbelievable vitriol have some compassion people!!
Oh, it's believable friend. Pathetic, but expected even. Merry Christmas.
Amazing how tragedy brings out jerks. I have family that are JWs and they are good quiet people.
@@janetprice85no they are not good when they change scripture to their own cult agendas and deceive others to same pit they heading,… btw I’m not advocating hate or violence to anyone God will avenge. I call them Satan witnesses.
@@TestTheSpiritsIfTheyAreOfYAH Judge Not
I’m a JW but these people’s comments don’t surprise me. I’m used to it.
DENVER 7 Thank you for keeping us updated. News stories that are reported with honesty & integrity are shared globally by the community of the Army of Apostates aka Whistleblowers ⚖️
Dear Tall Ku Wmm: Are you from the _Army of Apostates?_
Pray-tell: If you rail against the JW organization, what form of worship do you have to replace it with?
I wish someone would tell the full story
@@A0.917: Certainly, that Tall Kul Wmn is not telling us anything. The Army of Apostates, are aggravators, rebels, and renegades that have nothing positive to offer God's people.
@@eddyvideostar... It's been a full month and yet "TallKulWmn" has yet to answer your question. Good question by the way.
And genius, what did you do about it. He's not an apostate. Why did your courageous brilliance not idintihfiye yer reel nameuh
"hold fast to what is fine"! (1 Thess 5 :21)
Thou shalt not have NO other GODS BEFORE MEEE‼️🙏🏽
bruh wth
Lol
@@ummin3872 yea most don't get it
yawn.
@patty small we’re not going to start worshipping you
They are the ultimate stalkers.
True
This watchtower cult is very dangerous.
True
It’s not a cult and plus how are we dangerous we don’t cause any violence and we don’t get involved with that stuff
Your theology is completely wrong.
Just crazy how sad..
Happy about that😅😂
@@KeithBryantOfficial you sniff ALOT of kids huh
@@KeithBryantOfficialwhy? What if someone said they were happy about one of your family members dying this is just sad how people don’t even care about a Jehovah’s witnesses death like we are good people and we are respectful and we are all human
@@YourMexican_Nate 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@YourMexican_NateYou're now blocked
Very sad. That was someone's loved one. And to be killed on Christmas morning. May she rest in absolute beauty and in paradise. 🤲💔🙏🕯️✝️🕊️🛐
@@Quigley_Underdown They don't celebrate Christmas, but it is still Christmas day.
How do u know they had any loved ones? They could've been orphaned loners
Nothing special about Xmas. All lies.
@@honeyc just like those Pagan wedding rings♨️
@@gayleroslund10: The Roman Bishops won't take it back: A commercial celebration, consternation the community. People with *too much family* they can't afford -- huh -- tends to backfire on the backed up. Praying for a religion that would free them from this family obligation. JW has found an oasis.
What a shame. What is the world coming to?
brings new meaning to interviewing the witnesses.
Yeah I caught that as well.
Dude... thanks for making me giggle over serious 💩. Merry Christmas.
I am a Jehovah’s Witness with a sense of humor, and yes that was funny. Dark humor
Interrogate
@@kwdoug Be careful, if the elders see this comment three of them may have to sit you down & remind you to “be no part of the world”! 😛
Pray for them, let us not be judgemental, I'm celebrating drinking hot egg nog with brandy, listening to Christmas carols, cooking a rib eye roast with carrots and potatoes, and thanking God for good health and roof over my head! Amen
we do not care 😂😂😂
Wishing you a good year.
@@wonderbread2364 There's nothing wrong with alcohol in moderation. Obviously don't drink it if you have a history of addiction or if you have a family history of addiction.
Alexandria judging by your avatar, you might want to lay off the eggnog and ribs. Try salads.
@@Filthy_Larry
Eggnog with ribs and salads - sounds delicious! I would join Lady Alexandria.
SIGNS OF THE TIMES
No it’s not.. it happens EVERYWHERE! Don’t claim persecution!
@@Sittingstraight12 Before you cast opinions about something said it is in your best interest to make sure that you fully understand the statement and the angle at which the individual is coming from.
@@Goddess636 if you meant it to be sarcastic.. my bad.
@@Sittingstraight12 if you think the end isn’t near your still sleeping. I’m not even a JW and I see it.
It's really sad the very group of people that bother no one and this happens to them. My prayers and love goes out to them and their families. Whether they celebrate the holiday's or not no one deserves this to happen to them.
AMEN!
It was a husband who shot/killed his wife and then himself.
they bother no one? it's a sect and it's freaking awful what they force upon their children who never made a conscious choice to devote their life to their meaningless cause.
Did you even watch the video? It had nothing to do with the religion, it was a husband who targeted his wife and then killed himself 🤦♂️
@@eatabowlofshit they were both members of the sect, all their life resolves around their religion, there is nothing that isn't connected to religion when you are a member of a religious sect.
Why does the sheriff have a tour bus
Damn, save some story for the police.
Good thing there was a witness who saw the witness murder the witness.
BUT, was there two witnesses..
To the family condolences! I know you don't celebrate but still what a tragic event that more than likely could've been prevented. PTSD from harsh discipline can cause a person to feel suicidal. I hope that everyone involved gets the love and support during this time.
Dear Kimberly Sanchez: How do grown people find the substance of character to seek improvement in this new PC era, where if trivial things are taken away, this can cause some form of mental health situation?
Criminals will no longer exist since crime will be cloaked with mental illness.
Instead of locking them up, communities want to coddle them with psychiatric care.
@@eddyvideostar
Well all part of the paradise facade, sounds good but reality is that doesn't help or matter in present issues. I understand where you are coming from! But living under that pretense doesn't solve the reality at hand. The religion has caused so many people suicidal thoughts and I now know 3 who succeeded. One was at the federal heights police department in the 80's early 90's took her life by self inflicted gun shot. So the question remains WHY?
You are responsible for your own actions. The organization simply aides you to live by Bible principles. If you can’t do that then don’t go. It’s that simple
@@b.v3151
it would seem to be that simple wouldn't it. But unfortunately it's not. It would have been better to have some resemblance of understanding, love, respect for family, respect for the abused in my situation but there unfortunately wasn't, leaving is easier said than done! The weapon to the head for leaving is family but I know now that you can't lose what you never had to begin with. I know my parents lived me before I turned 8 years old when they became witnesses and for those years I'm grateful for the memories of love as a family unit! After 8 years old well I have some fond memories of love I'll treasure but few and far between riddled with conditions if I fail them or God. It was hard living in fear of the loss of them but I only had their unconditional love for 8 years. If you love something set it free if it comes back it's meant to be! Well it's gone so as I said 8 years I had unconditional love and I'll be forever grateful for those 8 years. Rape is not fornication and love between a husband and wife shouldn't hurt physically or mentally, when a husband is married to the bottle and not his wife and is condoned by spiritual leaders well even that goes beyond all of my comprehension, spiritually and morally! I'm truly sorry that the mental health in this situation caused so much unrepairable damage to themselves and the ones who more than likely loves them still as family. Not spiritual family blood family. Regardless of whether or not those involved in my situation here in Colorado care it not, I could care less let me make myself clear! They may feel they took away my family and my love for my God but they are wrong! I will love my parents and my God untill the day I die!
You’re right!
Not SHOCKED
sounds like someone didnt want to be shunned on christmas
When you say you spoke to a “witness” do you mean a Jehovah’s Witness or a witness witness? And if they are a Jehovah’s Witness does that make them a Jehovah’s Witness witness?
Wow, people just died regardless if they were religious or not yet you wanna ridicule exactly as foretold on 2 Peter 3:3. Psalm 123:4. You just boosted my faith even more.
As a JW myself I thought this joke was rather funny 😂
So sorry this happened on Christmas day! You never know what someone is going through, God bless their souls.
they dont believe in Jesus nor Christmas Day.Members are brainwashed and programmed to despise all people ,who dont belong to their church !
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@@jimmyswollnuts7662 goddamn dude chill
Jehovah witnesses do believe in Jesus Christ just not pagan holidays, they do believe in Jehovah Yahweh, get your facts right!
@@Soda3000Pop I see you've indulged in propaganda about Christmas and Paganism. I suggest you learn a LOT deeper.
Sad he didn't work out his problems.
They don't believe in getting help for mental issues. All handled in the congregation paradise will take care of it. Repercussions for going to therapist's
@@kimberlysanchez5260We had young child come to with internal bleeding from a car accident. The parents refused transfusions on religious grounds. New York law allowed for the child to be made a ward of the State for treatment. The child lived, and the parents were still unable to accept their folly.
@@jamesmcdonald5026
yeah that's a tough one because they were true parents unlike mine who were trying to follow their hearts values! In either case they feel like failures because of forced beliefs. Thankfully the government gets involved to save young people.
Omg 😲
Brother Kevin and his wife Becky know more than they will ever tell
Again secrecy same person in my situation
We’re they witnesses? Or just people out side of a Kingdom Hall
I read they were former Jehovah's Witness
Possibly disfellowship for not shunning family
@@hjc5457Yep. How sad is that? Nuts.
@@yanethcheng3375: This is true. I heard this. Now, this is very sad and grave. They had the truth of the kingdom and threw it away.
Apostates make me very nervous. Anything is possible with them:
They lead people astray, condemn and criticize, combined with having nothing to replace it with -- except doom and despair.
@@eddyvideostar eat shit scum. Your demonic bullshit fucking cult is going down. Just a month ago your “elders” were caught again covering up abuse and child abuse. You sick fux would be burning in the deepest pit of hell if there ever was one. Fuckibg scumbags make me sick.
Sounds Crazy!!!
On Christmas? I know Jehovah witnesses don't celebrate the holiday. So why today?
My sincere condolences to all of them we all living I n a very troubled society it seems like the devil is on the lose , you all be very careful .
The Devil be a metaphor for the Evil of man's doing, the only demons that exist, are us...
@@lightpropulsionguyindeed.
@@lightpropulsionguy Don't kid yourself
@@rodgerwoods4971 don't kid yourself, things aren't so straight forward even if Real demons exist it's Mankind who let them in, it's through a human beings hands the destruction is caused, the demon you believe in can only influence the human, we are still the real demons, pal! Go ahead, throw any filter you want on there, it's still the absolute truth!!! The Devil can't do his work but for Man who lets him!
@@lightpropulsionguy Believe it started with Adam & Eve. Eve wanted apples that evening for dinner. So much for mankind after that.
How many lives have Jehovah's witnesses destroyed.
Many and our family is one destroyed by these cult!
What a sad 😢
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Can we see the POC suspect?
To Silent Majority: Who?
Tragic
That's so sad. Praying 🙏
Not sad at all😂😂😂
God is great, the omnipresent, the alpha and the Omega, proclaiming the end from the beginning, the omnipotent, the Jehovah Jireh, Yahweh Raphael, Yahweh Nissi, Yahweh Shalom, Yahweh Rohi, Yahweh Tsidkenu, and Yahweh Yeshua, my salvation, my God and my peace, this is Alexandria's mom Diana, may all those who love the Lord say Amen!
Dam shame those people dont bother anyone.. such good people
and deceived , robbed of truth.
It was not in the hall, but out in the street; The Hall just happened to be the closest building out there.
Yeah, but if you leave the group they try to destroy you as a person. No love like Christian hate I suppose.
@@DJR100 That is a lie. If you leave, they leave you alone.
@@DJR100 yeah that's not true, they're incredibly nice to me even though I don't go anymore.
"Thornton"
Sad.
They should investigate the congregation.
They should investigate you 😒
I don’t think they’d have any problem as there is none
I agree!
@@SimpleLifeAlways81 Oh no did it strike a nerve. As a former JW myself the congregation tends to be the guilty one because of its policies.
Agree
I walk by this place all the time. It’s a tragedy
boo hoo
@@brockhershey414 you share the same name with a pedophile, either that or you are the pedophile that @ItsHaleyRG made video about. That right there is boo hoo.
@@brockhershey414: Read your Bible. Stop the gloat and glee.
@@eddyvideostar the bible is full of B.S. I continue to do what I please.
@@Boundlesslylit You share the name of a convicted killer. I take it you love to take human lives you sicko! You have a special place in hell my friend.
Too bad their magical sky daddy couldn't help them even tho he is supposedly omnipotent & omniscient
may they rest in peace
With how much dopamine and serotonin??????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!!!!!!!
Where did it happened? City or state because the news reporter didn't say.
Dear Peaches Anthony: The ol' Colorado State again with more shooters of anomaly who drift from the usual -- becoming the like.
Colorado is a upholstered septic tank
This is information that I learned from my aunt, who is a JW:
If you are a JW, you need to stop trying to “Witness” to these people on this chat, as you’ll expose yourself to APOSTATES!
APOSTATES will keep you going with their endless negative rants about JWs (regardless of whether or not it’s factual).
You can’t do anything to change people who will always have a negative view towards JWs…so stop using RUclips as a platform to try.
(I know enough about the religion from my aunt.)
You and your aunt are pretty dumb.
Your "aunt" sounds pretty brainwashed if you ask me.
Dear Queen Domination: I concur with your tenet of -- huh -- shunning the apostates: However, this is a regular *news broadcast video,* not an apostate comment board. Therefore, some are getting in their two cents (the two coins) -- that the good souls can send to shame the stultified sempiternal sinners.
The JW-GB recommends shunning the apostates on all mediums, but I think it's unfair that the whole world sees their chat room with no one rebutting: It's one-sided and hurts the good news of the kingdom, taking away credibility.
@@eddyvideostar Well then you have a lot of work to do if you want to do damage control. "Apostates" are growing by the thousands every year. Apostate is just a word used by JWs to dehumanize people who left the religion that tell the truth about it.
If anyone else is reading this...look up all of the child sex cases within Jehovahs witnesses. The elders are instructed to not report cases to the police. Its in the elders handbook. A simple search will prove it
@@eddyvideostar I hear you. The point that I’m making is that people will say what they want about the religion if they don’t like it…PERIOD…and they can do NOTHING to change it.
I’m seeing enough defensive JW arguments here that are raising my eyebrows, as I know they’re not supposed to be on RUclips chats making these posts. Granted, I get the fact that people feel wholeheartedly about their religion. However, not everyone will want to be a JW, as they have their views about the organization that they’re wholeheartedly entitled to.
crazy never takes a day off
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often
all those witnesses and nobody saw a thing
Who got shot
The two dead people.
I don't think that's what they mean by being cleansed by the blood.
What in the world!! I've never seen or head this at a kingdom hall! I mean why at the kingdom hall of all places?
Wow! Sad! But I'm glad no one else was hurt.
We still live in this world that is ruled by satan and we're all imperfect, look into what's going on in russia and how the gov is going inside the halls and beating our bros and sisters, the end is very near and thing's will continue to get worse for us all.
@@goodnewskingdom2187 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bad news
Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord. ✝️🎄
Do these horrific murders (in churches and grammar schools), settle the question of whether there is a god or not? I mean…honestly…where is he? Can we assume he’s just watching? With folded arms?
@@christopherp.hitchens3902 this is Not of God.. this is a characteristic of man and having a murderous heart...God spoke against and forbids murder...
@@azboldazalion1938 Unless it includes the children of the enemies of your theocratic state, in which case, murder away! Blessings for everyone!
@@thelasttimeitried kind of pessimistic to say that isn't it... God gives me a reason what has man done for you anyway besides destroy one another and this world
@@jcrosset - It’s a rhetorical question, my fearful, superstitious friend.
Domestic dispute.
That is so sad
Hope it's not one of those people who didn't get the love and acceptance they needed from the congregation. Like non Jehovahs, queers, jews, Muslims, and everyone else who isn't in their exclusive faith community. Or one of the kids or adults who got excommunicated.
Sa, sad to happen on Christmas Day. Rest in Peace.
They don’t believe in Christmas it’s a normal day for them.
@@Quigley_Underdown it happened out front in the street. Quit believing every title you read on yt
@@Quigley_Underdown dude honestly I think it's just most of these comments. My bad, have a nice whatever you celebrate. 🥳
@@Quigley_Underdowno Christmas, no Easter, no birthday, no new year’s, no Halloween, I can go on. Oh and if anyone is seriously ill where their only option to live is a blood transfusion…. They must choose to let them die. ( but of course that’s if they are jw’s ) a more believable name for their brain washing cult.
Someone got cool in their stockings
Were there any witnesses?
Jehovah's Witnesses ???......they must be in the kingdom of god.....they do not kill anybody....or DO THEY ???????
They kill you mentally.. and your dead to friends and family if you leave.
They kill everyone mentally
Gun regulations
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A true JW doesnt have a gun...
Thats a apostate
Aren't jahovas a cult
Yes
No .. a cult worships man. We don’t worship any man, we worship Jehovah only.
Actually, Jehovah's witnesses are not a cult.. As you know Cults believe in what they hear without researching.. See most believe what they are being taught without looking for themselves.. Jehovahs witnesses on the other hand, they do research, study etc..they don't take a man's word for it by just listening, sit and walk out and believe what was told to them.. They actually open their Bibles..and you also don't get baptized unless you have accurate knowledge.. Babies do not get baptized as they can not get baptized without accurate knowledge
@@SimpleLifeAlways81 do you believe in the American flag and the pledge of allegiance? Do you give blood?
Yep.
Stop shunning ppl that’s the real trigger here
Someones getting shunned
I hope they get investigated and shut down.
Yet another fine example of how giving everyone guns makes a country safe................or maybe not.
Oh shut up. Guns are fine. Guns are safe. Can’t ruin nor stifle peoples second amendment right to own a gun so long as they are law abiding citizens with no felonies. Also who cares if guns are used in a suicide? People die all the time. Who cares?!
Im very safe with mine
Lesson to be learned: It's dangerous for women to get married.
It's for men to get married as well. The human race should go cellabent and go extinct.
It’s dangerous for us men too.
Also many cases of women who have killed thier own children...
It's dangerous for everyone, including children
Very sad loss. May God touch their relatives to bring them into a relationship with Jesus Christ for salvation.
John 3:3, Acts 3:19
There’s Jesus for us. We are JW’s and believe in Jesus Christ.
Into a relationship with Jesus? We witnesses? Sir...please do your research. We are JEHOVAH's CHRISTIAN WITNESSES and we have Jesus on a grand scale. He is our King and our Savior and he is Jehovah's dear son. Not as the churches lie and defame by saying Jehovah and Jesus are one and the same. For that lie, the churches of the United States which propagate a lie in Satan's name will have to pay their full. So I ask you to please come into a relationship with both Jehovah and Jesus if you do not want to be judged for eternal damnation on the day of Jehovah's wrath. Amen
@@olchat2012 You sound really ignorant. They believe in Jesus, they just don't believe he was/is God, because he wasn't/isn't.
@@amadisdee6054 Damnation/wrath/scorn/hellfire/etc...i grew up w all that as a JW...terrible to inject fear of such a force that loves to inject pain and suffering because it got mad at an angel...theres just too much suffering to even imagine a loving force. This force sounds to be of a very negative content if it don't get its way,reminds me of a taliban nature.alfa evils...I will not be herded into this slaughter house of fear ...
@@amadisdee6054 jehovah is a nickname, manufactured 1611🧐
R:I:P.
Another CULT!!
Name one religion that isn't.
Not a CULT!!
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A lot of times when this kind of thing happens her last words were I'm going to leave you and take you for everything you've got
That is devastating. Just ask the guys and gals that have been married 4 times. It causes so much damage, that they can never recover. They have PSTD forever.
They go to the movies on Christmas
Murder-suicide at the Kingdom Hall. They used to be members of the kingdom hall. So, why did this man kill his wife and then himself?
What facts do you have? It could happen anywhere else, but not always inside. Get the facts first, then develop a bit of wisdom as to what you figure happened. Former members means they were not JW's. Tragic either way when loved ones are lost.
If it _was_ a murder suicide (and there's no evidence that it was), why couldn't it have been the wife who did the shooting?
you said use to be. So lately Satan or another religion was part of their life and that is why it happened
@@stomper12000 Did you listen to the video? What did they say? He was in a hurry.
So, your god did not save him. Then you ignored some warning signs, now they are both dead. Way to go!!!
About 126 people die just in traffic accidents in the US every day so what's alarming about this story?
Do you always ask stupid questions?
@@martin1900 I see humiliating yourself in public again doesn't stop you.
@@TheWordIs I see being a total dumbass doesn't stop you.
@@martin1900 Thanks, you just reminded me to flush the toilet.
@@TheWordIs Thanks , you just reminded me to go get some Raid for the cockroach trolls.
What's the difference between a cult and Christianity?
A religion belongs to the wider culture; its adherents come and go freely. A cult tends to be counter-cultural, restricting the social life of its adherents to other cult members.
@@JonGriebel *13 and thank you babe ......Also, I have no idea what you're talking about.
@@JonGriebel Thats odd, its shows up as Arren H on my end. Totally would have connected those dots. Well played
You'd think this oh so powerful god would jump out and save his flock. ThOuGhTs AnD PraYeRs
This is JW you're talking about. There messed up to began with.
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Ah jehovahs witnesses. Explains everything
How so? They are peaceful people.
@carlacastaneda7398 definitely not at all. I speak from personal experience.
@@olchat2012 yes because I’m sure they waged war with you. Everyone had their pitch forks and bibles with them while they held you hostage and beat you to a pulp. Whatever you have to say I can say with certainty is incredibly one sided. I could be wrong but if it’s a case of disfellowshipping, then you might as well let yourself out cuz that’s already no one’s fault but yours. Sorry they told you to have respect and be a clean person🥺😑 as a matter of fact here’s the door 🚪
@@sure1073 👏👏👏👏
That's not a fair statement. They are subject to this stuff just like anyone else. People of all faiths have issues at times.
My condolences
No condolences whatsoever
it's a CULT
I agree actually also Jehovah's Witness also believe that if people cheat on their partner is not grounds for divorve if the person their partner is cheating with is of the same sex of the same gender then the marriage does not break down it is not grounds for divorce and also if someone has sex with animals they do not believe it is grounds for divorce either they excuse this with the bible text 1 Corinthians 15:39 which says that someone of the same sex of the same gender and animal's are not the same flesh because they cannot procreate together.
Yep.
Yep
By what definition?
Jesus was hated and He told His followers would be hated too.
Oh brother.. this happens everywhere.. stop thinking you are a group that’s persecuted. And it all stems to them being controlled by the governing body. Doctrine can change in and they all have to abide by it. They cause persecution to their followers.
@@Sittingstraight12 According to the journal, Social Compass.......... "Viewed globally, this persecution has been so persistent and of such an intensity that it would not be inaccurate to regard Jehovah's witnesses as the most persecuted religion of the twentieth century".
@@donald2306 they should be.. it’s a horrible cult.
@@Sittingstraight12
Acts 28:22
"But we think it proper to hear from you what your thoughts are, for truly as regards this sect (cult), we know that it is spoken against everywhere.”
As can clearly be seen, the early Christians were also referred to as a cult and "spoken against" everywhere just as Jehovah's Witnesses are. So I'd like to thank you and others like you for showing people through your abusive speech and conduct towards them that they are the true followers of Christ.
@@donald2306 I suppose, hiding their pedophilia problem is Christlike, how they change the Bible, according to how their belief is. Adding words and taking out words. I think you need to get an update and do research on them yourself. If you’re a witness and you don’t do research on your own organization, except through their website and their literature, shame on you. they worship the governing body, because if you go and say anything against them, you are called an apostate. They are men, and you do not put your trust in noble men. And they put their full trust in the governing body. They like to think that they are going to reign with Jesus. I have my facts straight. I am not ashamed of what I call them. when you watch the website with Anthony Morris, talking about Norway, and that they don’t get viewed as a religion or their religious rights taken away, he’s very vague about it. Can you just sit there and listen to what they say, the things they spew, and you let them tickle your ears. Do you even know if, you are a witness why Norway took away their rights as a religion? They still can worship as Jehovah’s Witnesses, and have the kingdom hall, but they can’t get the grants that Norwegians give from their taxes to all the religions in that country. So they are pissed off that they’re out of $1.5 million. That’s why they’re pissed at Norway. And of course Anthony Morris does not bring that to their attention. If you truly feel like, you’re a follower of Jesus and Jesus said, payback, Cesar, Caesars, things, and God things to God, why, then, don’t say sets example to pay taxes. But all the members must pay taxes. But if you truly believe you’re a follower of Christ , you would, they would go ahead and pay taxes, setting the example. Witnesses love to get funding from government, because it’s free money. I feel this way with all religions. They should not be taxed exempt. Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t do anything for the poor, there was an active sister, that I’m friends with come on, and she lost her job and didn’t have any food, and had to wait to get food stamps, nobody of the elders helped her out because she wasn’t coming to the kingdom hall. So do that . How much do witnesses actually help each other. When devastation happens, like Katrina, the brothers, rebuilt homes for the friends, only for the friends to give back their insurance money to the organization. I was there, I saw this. So, if you’re a witness, why don’t you put your big boy panties on, and do some research on what you believe and who you worship.
Bummer 🧟♀️
Just another cult
Just another bigot! Have some respect.
Cult worships man. We worship Jehovah so no, it’s not a cult
@@SimpleLifeAlways81 I always like to say" well most world religions walk in, sit, listen and walk out without even looking at a Bible they believe what's told to them without even looking " That is a cult..whereas Witnesses research, study and get accurate knowledge.. Hugs...
Jesus was hated and He told His followers would be too.
@@SimpleLifeAlways81 JWs completely obey men who are uninspired of God's holy spirt, without question or confirming it in scripture or praying about it. Doing so would be wrong? Scary! Blind obedience to your human leaders, whether they are wrong or right, is considered worshipping God? Doesn't sound like christianity but something else that start with C and ends with T.
Did Mr. Jehovah witness what happened?
This crime will never be solved. The Witnesses are dead.
With cameras everywhere and people willing to come forward for reward money, the crime will probably be solved.
@@DavidLS1 They were trying to be funny about murder on Christmas, as is tradition. The joke might have landed if the comedian had capitalized "Witnesses."
@@horizonblack No, I got the joke. Actually, it wasn't half bad. I don't know why I wrote a serious response to it.
By the way, I posted a joke about it too. I asked if each of the victims will now get his own planet.
@carlacastaneda7398 Yes, I know. I was making a joke...mocking *all* religions.
Lol your fucking hypocrisy is shining through, if it was a mosque or a synagogue yall be screaming for blood in the streets
I think one of the dumbest things I’ve heard about this situation.. “ it’s a wonder why the bombs didn’t go off inside the hall.. def Jehovahs hand to protect the brothers”
Guess god didn’t care for them enough to help them. But hey.. the Kingdom Hall is safe. 🤣🤣🤣
Description says they were former witnesses, and they were there at 7:30 am? Sounds like a Judicial Committee gone wrong IMO
Matt was on the inside, once
@@WeeWeeJumboFirst 22 years of my life unfortunately. Leaving was the best choice I ever made. A large amount of the people are good people, but that organization is evil
@@mattmcl64
I feel it would be accurate to say that about most of the 4200+ faiths in the world.
Maybe Buddhism might be one of the few exceptions, but I ain't here to rub a dude's belly.
If they were formal witnesses judicial committee had long been
@@mattmcl64 good you made it out alive I studied with them some years ago always was a unpleasant aura
Murder on Christmas Day hell of a news story!
Jehovah witnesses are not allowed to celebrate holidays, today was a normal day like any other for them
How were they murdered? They live forever under Jesus's wimg
@CupKate I know all to well about the Witnesses. I have been married to an ex Witness for the last 28 years. But the media is just trying to get attention putting that in the storyline so people will see. People killed on Christmas of any faith is always front page news the media doesn't care.
@@Eddie-ud4bb they don’t worship Jesus? They specifically don’t celebrate Christian holidays and don’t use the name Jesus for a reason
@@Ruthy101 Which one is a christian holiday? They DO use Jesus name you are wrong.
Not allowed to celebrate anything? SAD
Their chuch's have no windows, that religion is a cult.
Worst religion to get sucked into. 🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏃♀️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️🏃away from this cult.
@@markoliver4194 Michael Jackson was
Hell, they don't even believe in themselves
Glad I'm a ministerial servant because an attendant is a very important responsibility.
@@miketemp4830 1 Timothy 1:4
Attendant wont do anything but get shot for nothing. You're not supposed to carry any weapons in the hall.
Wow!!! I just read how elders are to cover for pedophiles in the elders handbook Shepherd The Flock Of God, page 72. The entire handbook is on line.
@@shanechilman2567 1 Timothy 1:4
@@JonGriebel I'm the one who started to begin with.
Most Jehovah's witnesses are depressed, sad
AND on antidepressants! Cause the cult will forever shun you and the family members too.
The Kingdamn Hall is like a funeral home inside😑
I am myself because I was forced into it and trying to get out
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:14-16 KJV
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Mark 16:16 KJV
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Matthew 16:24-27 KJV
dont know if they have christmas ad real thing as do not follow God. just Joseph smith. Sound like it was within congregation. very sad
You are confusing Jehovah’s Witnesses with the Mormons
No one is more hated than us. You only take flack when you’re over the target
Who is us? Jws?
Oh stop. No one hates ya. Ya love victimhood. I was in that cult since the late 70s. They robbed my childhood. You keep acting like there’s an anthropomorphic deity in the sky over looking man affairs. The hypocrisy especially towards women.
Stop being a victim ya robbed and ruined more lives and earn whatever ya get but this wasn’t a witness thing plz read before crying that someone after you.
Us?
... no one? Oh my.
Do you use a Norden bombsight?
Why wasn't this on national news today?
To many other groups that claim victim status way before they get to jehovah's witnesses