Wow. I had no idea. I am right handed and just assumed right helical and right single bevel. I was getting worried as I was watching the video that I needed to change my setup that I have been using for years, but thankfully you calmed me down by putting it in perspective by stating it would not make all that much difference and just shoot what makes you happy. Good advice.
I always thought it matter till watching the the latest Hunting Public episode with the Rocket man. He will de-bunk everything we thought about fletching.
Very interesting video. About the heads unscrewing I have to wonder how many times a arrow is going to spin 360 degrees while passing through a deer. I guess a super helical might spin enough to possibly unscrew it some but i still can't see it totally unscrewing a head in a deer.
Solid video. This is why I use 3 degree left helicle and use blue locktite to hold the field tips and broad heads in securely while still being able to remove later on.
Great video! As someone who’s beginning to play with their setup more and more and fletch at home this video cleared the air. I’ve had local shops tell me right hand bow= left helical and left hand bow= right helical. This cleared it up. Great stuff!
Great vid and testing by the way. My final conclusion after hours of research, watching vids and everything. I'm gonna get my string twisted counter clock to help the natural twist of my arrows right and fletch my arrows right. As a hunter, I would like for my broad heads to stay nicely screwed in and not loosen out. Although some would argue that you only shoot it once to get the kill. Yeah, but I'm also too lazy. So just get my string twisted once, arrows fletched for the natural spin and not have to worry about my broad heads twisting off.
This was very educational, simple and direct to the point. Great job with the camera work as it shows you what is truly going on with the arrow in flight. Good to know it mostly depends how the string is oriented on the bow and not just a right-handed or left-handed shooter. I'm planning to use a single bevel broadhead this year so this is very helpful! Thank you guys for taking the time to put this together!
When you dont have vanes matching clock then the arrow will have a dead spot for couple feet. Wind has a higher percentage to blow off target. Wind low as 3mph can move it. So it leaves bow an starts to spin left soon as it leaves arrow rest. Around 6 to 12 feet the right helical starts to turn it right making a dead spot until it can start spinning to the right
Mine go left..and I ordered the bohning tower jig with no left helical vane arms because only the “complete kit” comes with all of them…Returning it and getting the Bitzenburger like I originally planned. But it sounds like it’s not a big difference, do you want to keep tightening threads or do you want better arrow flight?
Got the 3 degree helical arms, but it’s a pain to get the vanes placed flush on the shaft with any of the tower jig arms. Even when the vanes are pushed to the bottom of the arms, as they should, the 3 arms don’t line up on the shaft without a lot of fidgeting, so if you can deal with a little inconsistent fletchings it’s fine. I just bit the bullet and got the Vane Master Pro from LastChance. I’ll have this thing forever, and it’s a world of a difference compared to the Tower Jig.
120 plus man hours for an inconclusive test🤦🏽 but now we know. Just to add to this 90% of strings are made with a clockwise twist due to the way the string fibers are manufactured. We did confirm that with several top string producers in the world.
My Mathews Z7 Xtreme clocks left and I shoot a double beveled broadhead with a left helical. Would love the industry to catch up and solve the problem of tips unscrewing. Seems simple to me.
I just tested this today. My results varied from yours. Right offset and a string that wanted to rotate a bare shaft counter clockwise, at 3 yards my fletches arrows were already spinning to the right 1/8 turn while the bare shaft was left. At 5 yards the fletched arrows were 1/2-3/4 rotation to the right. And at 7 yards they were about 1 1-2 turns to the right. So it only took my setup 3 yards and the arrows had already stalled and started rotating right. Didn’t take 15-20 yards.
As a cross dominate shooter who is right handed but shoots left I have a left hand bow. I want to build my own arrows this year and eventually go single bevel. I recently had my bow clocked with a bareshaft and it clocks left. My two cousins are right hand shooters and they clock left as well. Definitely related to the string twist. Thanks for verifying that as well.
Drop-Away rests and Shoot-Through rests will result in the downrange rotational reversal; string twist and vane direction dependent of course. I had an injury to my left hand, RH shooter, and I decided to switch from my drop-away rests back in 2008...to a Whisker Biscuit. Only so I never have an arrow get caught on something and bounce against a riser; with a bull elk at 10 yds again; for not having a finger to hold the arrow in place. So I've tested rotation with the Whisker Biscuit, at four to five feet (tip of arrow at full draw to target) both back then, and showed someone very recently. With it, the bare arrow rotated CCW to 10 o'clock from 12 o'clock. And the Right-Offset arrow rotates CW to 4 o'clock from 12 o'clock. So the vanes are already dictating the rotation as the arrow passes through that particular rest. Also, for those irritated beyond belief with left rotation loosening your tips...try: Bohning Ferr-l-tite Cool Flex or Vibra-Tite VC3 on the threads.
Good job for going deep into this subject. I am thinking of just using a small drop of service strength thread locker on tips and then just put the left helical on - right?
I clock my arrows. They clock left. I fletch a left helical and they fly like absolute darts. I make sure to tighten tips each time and when I install heads I get them güten tight. Not had an issue yet. Absolutely amazing vid gents. Keep ‘em comin.
Did you try to shoot without fletching? I didn't hear you mentioning, if you tried the differently twisted strings with the same arrows than you used with other string? Also. Is your fletching straight (well, it's never 100% straight) or twisted? Also. Peep doesn't twist when shooting. How would the string twist rotate the arrow?
Lancaster' has a video showing where the arrow comes off of the bow the bow stops and mid air and incorrect and start spinning the other way away being That the fletchings are put on with the right key local are offset but the hero is really clocking left and it's Stops in mid air and corrects itself because the veins are actually making it go the other way therefore you're forcing that arrow to turn a different direction then what it wants to
My bow naturally makes the arrow twist to left, so I bought left helical fletching on my arrows, they do want to unscrew at impact so I put blue lock tight on the threads and they stay tight now.
It should be mentioned that there is an optical illusion possible in the first illustration here. I'm old enough to remember a dancing ballerina illusion that made the rounds on the internet back in the nineteen nineties, or maybe early two thousands. It could be seen as rotating either clockwise or counter clockwise, based on what your brain decided (because it was actually just two dimensional). I was confused when watching your schetched arrow showing the rotation, until I realized this was happening. Luckily, you said in words what was correct 😅 Many thanks!
I think I've seen this one other place but I think you'd better show the only ones that really have put it out there like that I think all string builders know this but thank God you guys are talking about it
I was thinking about changing to a single bevel (left bevel). My arrow clocks left and noticed my fletchings taper right in which I was going to change. Does the Teflon tape hold well enough to keep a single left bevel from coming loose or off?
@@ericwiitala5407 it should. I even use a plastic bag sometimes, just rip a little piece off and stretch it around the threads. I always check my arrows on my walk back and sometimes need to tighten one a tiny bit and I believe they loosen when hitting the target and not in flight which is fine with me. You could also use blue or red lock tight?.? I use that on tiny screws on my sight and rest ( I actually might do a few practice arrows with it now that I think about it).
Yes it need one more reference to understand this. Unfortunately the video keeps illustrating counter clockwise arrows while stating "clockwise" adding to the confusion. Even mixing it up when illustrated using hands. If you look downwards of the cross section of the string, you would see the swirl the direction. It can help to imagine you cutting the string off and looking swirl off the edge of the string strands. Right hand bow = you hold the bow with your left hand and pull the string with your right hand. "Right hand bow" most often has a clock wise twist on the string cross section when you look downwards. Clock wise twist on the string "Clocks left" = arrow twisting counter clockwise in flight = "spinning left" = "turn to left" Personally I haven't understood how the serving affects the clocking. Perhaps some can tell me?
Exactly, the diagram arrows did not match the verbiage he was saying.Clockwise counter clockwise. I watch the video ten times and I'm still not sure what there saying. I might have figured it out but if I tried to explain it would be more confusing.
My string is clockwise ( looking down at it) I marked a bare shaft and shot it. The mark was left EXACTLY LIKE YOUR TESTING SHOWS. But I shot it again and it turned to the RIGHT. SHOT it again and it turned LEFT. shot it again and it was STRAIGHT UP like it was when nocked on the string.. any ideas ?????? And I was very conscious of grip and release etc etc etc. been shooting bows for near 50 years. I’m not trying to shoot down your theory quite the opposite. I’m about to fletch some arrows and was about to order a right helix jig then saw your video. Checked my strings and ordered a LEFT helix jig but decided to shoot it just to confirm and sure enough the first time it turned left just like y guys said. But then it went right and then straight up. Just asking your thoughts…….thanks
@@ExodusOutdoorGear I was shooting as close as three or 4 feet away into a square bag, type target, which is shot to death so last night I did the same thing into a block target that is very firm. Actually, a crossbow target, thinking that perhaps won the arrow hit my worn out bag target it was continuing to spin in the target. Clock left clock right clock straight up and down it’s enough to make you crazy😂
Obviously, that last comment was suppose to say when not won. My bad. But the other thing is I have four bows some with left twisted strings and some with right. I can’t fletch arrows for each individual bow so since my left helix Fletcher arrived last night it is what it is. I saw another guy that did some testing on this subject and shot left helix and right helix arrows back to back and they all grouped the same. now granted they may have stopped in mid flight and reversed rotation as your testing showed but I am not a person that shoots deer beyond 20 yards. I am a very close up Hunter, so maybe all of this is irrelevant pretty much in my world, but it is very interesting information that you have brought to light for my OCD brain to decipher. 😂😂 thanks ALOT. Keep testing and doing what you’re doing a Archery is awesome.
Energy loss isn’t what concerns me…..that would seem insignificantly small. Loose tips are of no concern either (especially since a small dab of string wax secures them in just fine). Take a bow slightly out of tune then compare broadhead flight between left and right vane configurations and do the same with an arrow you know has a bit of a wobble in it; that will tell you which is more forgiving…A spinning arrow will average out build inconsistencies whereas a knuckle balling arrow won’t.
What about all the expandable heads that are offset right blades and fixed 3 blade heads that are offset right?????????????? Last I checked they don’t make ..example… ( nap spitfires ) with blades that offset ( left) ! So you lose energy fighting the way the broadhead wants to rotate!!!!!! Just like a single bevel ! Only difference is everything is right offset or strait bladed except for single bevel left heads!
For target I fletch left hunting I fletch right.. makes no difference for the most part. But I like Single bevel heads. And I honestly dony think u want that broadhead spinning super fast
For stickbow guys it matters more because 15-18yds is a critical hunting distance for us. Many wont even take a shot past that so having an arrow that's fetched wrong means your fletching(again, for stickbows) is fletched the wrong way for your entire hunting distance shot. That's definitely something to consider
@@nicetryb0z0 I guide stickbow shooters and not one has said that makes any difference. Why does it matter with a stickbow? How long have you been doing this? Generally the young guys say stickbow and the old crew "trad".
@@rattlingjunkie I literally just explained why it mattered and there was a video explaining it that we both watched. You admitting you only guide trad boomers who cant be bothered to improve themselves isnt a convincing argument. I even shoot right fletch out a compound that clocks left because I know my bow is tuned so well and flying fast enough that initial distance doesnt matter. But with trad when even the slightest deviation in form can mean throwing a shot why would I wanna add an arrow that's fighting itself all the way to a typical distance hunting shot?
Totally Unnecessary step! Tim gillingham would agree but I guess If it gives you more confidence go for it. If you do a comparison of a left and right you will see zero difference at all
Actually, with single bevel broadheads, the arrow spinning or not spinning will not affect the broadhead spinning upon imact. The design of the single bevel does that for you. Ranch Fairy shows that by pushing a sigle bevel into a potatoe and it twists with just straight pressure, no spin. Again the single bevel by design will twist upon imact of harder matter, i.e. bones and such. Long story short, an arrow that is not spinning at impact, the single bevel will still twist and break bone.
I also thought it was string twist that determined arrow spin direction, until I saw the linked video from Paige Pierce. If you have not heard of her she is one of the best female archers in the world. Her video shows 2 different arrows clocking different directions off of the same bow. ruclips.net/video/ebSxqxBq1w8/видео.html
Is it though? If you fletch an arrow the opposite direction than your natural rotation then it will result in some sort of energy loss. Regardless if it matters or not, it’s a small step I don’t mind taking to ensure as close to perfection as i can.
The best part of this video is you guys found the yardage where it corrects. For longbow and recurve guys that 15-18yd make screams at us. Because many of us wont even takena hunting shot past that so this basically means if you fletch wrong your arrow is flying the whole way to the target with fletching thats working against the arrow!!! Wow
Wow. I had no idea. I am right handed and just assumed right helical and right single bevel. I was getting worried as I was watching the video that I needed to change my setup that I have been using for years, but thankfully you calmed me down by putting it in perspective by stating it would not make all that much difference and just shoot what makes you happy. Good advice.
Great camera work! Very valuable to see arrow flight using the high speed cam!
I always thought it matter till watching the the latest Hunting Public episode with the Rocket man. He will de-bunk everything we thought about fletching.
Very interesting video. About the heads unscrewing I have to wonder how many times a arrow is going to spin 360 degrees while passing through a deer. I guess a super helical might spin enough to possibly unscrew it some but i still can't see it totally unscrewing a head in a deer.
Solid video. This is why I use 3 degree left helicle and use blue locktite to hold the field tips and broad heads in securely while still being able to remove later on.
Before you used the locktite did you have issues with broadheads loosening?
Great video! As someone who’s beginning to play with their setup more and more and fletch at home this video cleared the air. I’ve had local shops tell me right hand bow= left helical and left hand bow= right helical. This cleared it up. Great stuff!
Best video I’ve seen on this subject…and I’ve watched several! I like it! Thanks for the content
Great vid and testing by the way. My final conclusion after hours of research, watching vids and everything. I'm gonna get my string twisted counter clock to help the natural twist of my arrows right and fletch my arrows right. As a hunter, I would like for my broad heads to stay nicely screwed in and not loosen out. Although some would argue that you only shoot it once to get the kill. Yeah, but I'm also too lazy. So just get my string twisted once, arrows fletched for the natural spin and not have to worry about my broad heads twisting off.
This was very educational, simple and direct to the point. Great job with the camera work as it shows you what is truly going on with the arrow in flight. Good to know it mostly depends how the string is oriented on the bow and not just a right-handed or left-handed shooter. I'm planning to use a single bevel broadhead this year so this is very helpful! Thank you guys for taking the time to put this together!
When you dont have vanes matching clock then the arrow will have a dead spot for couple feet. Wind has a higher percentage to blow off target. Wind low as 3mph can move it.
So it leaves bow an starts to spin left soon as it leaves arrow rest. Around 6 to 12 feet the right helical starts to turn it right making a dead spot until it can start spinning to the right
superb vid, clearly explained, thanks
Thanks for the nice video I've learned a great deal on how the flight of arrows are actually doing leaving the bow
Great work guys! Learned a ton on this video!
So if I got a clockwise string, and shoot a left helical and a left bevel broadhead, it will try to back the broadhead out?
Mine go left..and I ordered the bohning tower jig with no left helical vane arms because only the “complete kit” comes with all of them…Returning it and getting the Bitzenburger like I originally planned. But it sounds like it’s not a big difference, do you want to keep tightening threads or do you want better arrow flight?
You can get the purple arms for your bohning tower jig it’s 3° left
Got the 3 degree helical arms, but it’s a pain to get the vanes placed flush on the shaft with any of the tower jig arms. Even when the vanes are pushed to the bottom of the arms, as they should, the 3 arms don’t line up on the shaft without a lot of fidgeting, so if you can deal with a little inconsistent fletchings it’s fine. I just bit the bullet and got the Vane Master Pro from LastChance. I’ll have this thing forever, and it’s a world of a difference compared to the Tower Jig.
120 plus man hours for an inconclusive test🤦🏽 but now we know. Just to add to this 90% of strings are made with a clockwise twist due to the way the string fibers are manufactured. We did confirm that with several top string producers in the world.
My Mathews Z7 Xtreme clocks left and I shoot a double beveled broadhead with a left helical. Would love the industry to catch up and solve the problem of tips unscrewing. Seems simple to me.
@@davidbartl1716 It'd be cool if someone made heads with reverse threads. Until then I use teflon tape on the threads. I hear string wax works too.
Is it wierd that bareshaft I clock slight left and with straight vanes my arrows clock right, left handed bow, w new zebra strings
I just tested this today. My results varied from yours. Right offset and a string that wanted to rotate a bare shaft counter clockwise, at 3 yards my fletches arrows were already spinning to the right 1/8 turn while the bare shaft was left. At 5 yards the fletched arrows were 1/2-3/4 rotation to the right. And at 7 yards they were about 1 1-2 turns to the right. So it only took my setup 3 yards and the arrows had already stalled and started rotating right. Didn’t take 15-20 yards.
As a cross dominate shooter who is right handed but shoots left I have a left hand bow. I want to build my own arrows this year and eventually go single bevel. I recently had my bow clocked with a bareshaft and it clocks left. My two cousins are right hand shooters and they clock left as well. Definitely related to the string twist. Thanks for verifying that as well.
I'm in the same boat. Right handed but left eye dominant. I also shoot left helical/offset with a LSB broadhead.
Drop-Away rests and Shoot-Through rests will result in the downrange rotational reversal; string twist and vane direction dependent of course. I had an injury to my left hand, RH shooter, and I decided to switch from my drop-away rests back in 2008...to a Whisker Biscuit. Only so I never have an arrow get caught on something and bounce against a riser; with a bull elk at 10 yds again; for not having a finger to hold the arrow in place. So I've tested rotation with the Whisker Biscuit, at four to five feet (tip of arrow at full draw to target) both back then, and showed someone very recently. With it, the bare arrow rotated CCW to 10 o'clock from 12 o'clock. And the Right-Offset arrow rotates CW to 4 o'clock from 12 o'clock. So the vanes are already dictating the rotation as the arrow passes through that particular rest. Also, for those irritated beyond belief with left rotation loosening your tips...try: Bohning Ferr-l-tite Cool Flex or Vibra-Tite VC3 on the threads.
Good job for going deep into this subject. I am thinking of just using a small drop of service strength thread locker on tips and then just put the left helical on - right?
Awesome stuff guys wow!!! Love this kind of content
I clock my arrows. They clock left. I fletch a left helical and they fly like absolute darts. I make sure to tighten tips each time and when I install heads I get them güten tight. Not had an issue yet.
Absolutely amazing vid gents. Keep ‘em comin.
I have some old string was (the sticky stuff) that I put on the threads of my tips that prevent them from unscrewing. Just a suggestion.
Did you try to shoot without fletching?
I didn't hear you mentioning, if you tried the differently twisted strings with the same arrows than you used with other string?
Also. Is your fletching straight (well, it's never 100% straight) or twisted?
Also. Peep doesn't twist when shooting. How would the string twist rotate the arrow?
Lancaster' has a video showing where the arrow comes off of the bow the bow stops and mid air and incorrect and start spinning the other way away being That the fletchings are put on with the right key local are offset but the hero is really clocking left and it's Stops in mid air and corrects itself because the veins are actually making it go the other way therefore you're forcing that arrow to turn a different direction then what it wants to
So if i want to shoot a right single bevel and right heical then i need a counter clockwise string
Great info guys! Thanks again
My bow naturally makes the arrow twist to left, so I bought left helical fletching on my arrows, they do want to unscrew at impact so I put blue lock tight on the threads and they stay tight now.
Wow so twisting right makes the arrow clock left correct? Lol. I thought it was the other way around 😅
Where did you get the counter clockwise string? I don't even see an option for that at most string manufacturers
We called a local string builder and had him twist one up for us like that for this testing
Lmao, just install ur string upside down
What camera you using to show vane movement
Phantom flex
It should be mentioned that there is an optical illusion possible in the first illustration here. I'm old enough to remember a dancing ballerina illusion that made the rounds on the internet back in the nineteen nineties, or maybe early two thousands. It could be seen as rotating either clockwise or counter clockwise, based on what your brain decided (because it was actually just two dimensional). I was confused when watching your schetched arrow showing the rotation, until I realized this was happening. Luckily, you said in words what was correct 😅 Many thanks!
I think I've seen this one other place but I think you'd better show the only ones that really have put it out there like that I think all string builders know this but thank God you guys are talking about it
I use Teflon tape on my broadheads and field points to keep them from getting loose. “Shoot what makes you happy” is the best advice.
I was thinking about changing to a single bevel (left bevel). My arrow clocks left and noticed my fletchings taper right in which I was going to change. Does the Teflon tape hold well enough to keep a single left bevel from coming loose or off?
@@ericwiitala5407 it should. I even use a plastic bag sometimes, just rip a little piece off and stretch it around the threads. I always check my arrows on my walk back and sometimes need to tighten one a tiny bit and I believe they loosen when hitting the target and not in flight which is fine with me. You could also use blue or red lock tight?.? I use that on tiny screws on my sight and rest ( I actually might do a few practice arrows with it now that I think about it).
Why can't we choose our string twist?
Clockwise looking down or up?
Yes it need one more reference to understand this.
Unfortunately the video keeps illustrating counter clockwise arrows while stating "clockwise" adding to the confusion. Even mixing it up when illustrated using hands.
If you look downwards of the cross section of the string, you would see the swirl the direction.
It can help to imagine you cutting the string off and looking swirl off the edge of the string strands.
Right hand bow = you hold the bow with your left hand and pull the string with your right hand.
"Right hand bow" most often has a clock wise twist on the string cross section when you look downwards.
Clock wise twist on the string "Clocks left" = arrow twisting counter clockwise in flight = "spinning left" = "turn to left"
Personally I haven't understood how the serving affects the clocking. Perhaps some can tell me?
Exactly, the diagram arrows did not match the verbiage he was saying.Clockwise counter clockwise. I watch the video ten times and I'm still not sure what there saying. I might have figured it out but if I tried to explain it would be more confusing.
My string is clockwise ( looking down at it) I marked a bare shaft and shot it. The mark was left EXACTLY LIKE YOUR TESTING SHOWS. But I shot it again and it turned to the RIGHT. SHOT it again and it turned LEFT. shot it again and it was STRAIGHT UP like it was when nocked on the string.. any ideas ?????? And I was very conscious of grip and release etc etc etc. been shooting bows for near 50 years. I’m not trying to shoot down your theory quite the opposite. I’m about to fletch some arrows and was about to order a right helix jig then saw your video. Checked my strings and ordered a LEFT helix jig but decided to shoot it just to confirm and sure enough the first time it turned left just like y guys said. But then it went right and then straight up. Just asking your thoughts…….thanks
At what distance are you testing? Is it possible it’s doing a full rotation when it hits the target?
@@ExodusOutdoorGear I was shooting as close as three or 4 feet away into a square bag, type target, which is shot to death so last night I did the same thing into a block target that is very firm. Actually, a crossbow target, thinking that perhaps won the arrow hit my worn out bag target it was continuing to spin in the target. Clock left clock right clock straight up and down it’s enough to make you crazy😂
Obviously, that last comment was suppose to say when not won. My bad. But the other thing is I have four bows some with left twisted strings and some with right. I can’t fletch arrows for each individual bow so since my left helix Fletcher arrived last night it is what it is. I saw another guy that did some testing on this subject and shot left helix and right helix arrows back to back and they all grouped the same. now granted they may have stopped in mid flight and reversed rotation as your testing showed but I am not a person that shoots deer beyond 20 yards. I am a very close up Hunter, so maybe all of this is irrelevant pretty much in my world, but it is very interesting information that you have brought to light for my OCD brain to decipher. 😂😂 thanks ALOT. Keep testing and doing what you’re doing a Archery is awesome.
Kool thanks 😊
Energy loss isn’t what concerns me…..that would seem insignificantly small. Loose tips are of no concern either (especially since a small dab of string wax secures them in just fine). Take a bow slightly out of tune then compare broadhead flight between left and right vane configurations and do the same with an arrow you know has a bit of a wobble in it; that will tell you which is more forgiving…A spinning arrow will average out build inconsistencies whereas a knuckle balling arrow won’t.
Can a guy just flip the string over to change from left to right helicle
Your helical doesn’t influence direction of rotation?
Not the initial clock of the arrow. Vanes take over down range
I believe all one has to do is string their bow clockwise to make the Arrow come off the bow clockwise with a right helical Fletching.
What about all the expandable heads that are offset right blades and fixed 3 blade heads that are offset right?????????????? Last I checked they don’t make ..example… ( nap spitfires ) with blades that offset ( left) ! So you lose energy fighting the way the broadhead wants to rotate!!!!!! Just like a single bevel ! Only difference is everything is right offset or strait bladed except for single bevel left heads!
It would be nice if inserts were made with left handed threads
For target I fletch left hunting I fletch right.. makes no difference for the most part. But I like Single bevel heads. And I honestly dony think u want that broadhead spinning super fast
It really doesn't matter, the fletch is way more powerful than the "natural" bareshaft rotation.
For stickbow guys it matters more because 15-18yds is a critical hunting distance for us. Many wont even take a shot past that so having an arrow that's fetched wrong means your fletching(again, for stickbows) is fletched the wrong way for your entire hunting distance shot. That's definitely something to consider
@@nicetryb0z0 I guide stickbow shooters and not one has said that makes any difference. Why does it matter with a stickbow? How long have you been doing this? Generally the young guys say stickbow and the old crew "trad".
@@rattlingjunkie I literally just explained why it mattered and there was a video explaining it that we both watched. You admitting you only guide trad boomers who cant be bothered to improve themselves isnt a convincing argument. I even shoot right fletch out a compound that clocks left because I know my bow is tuned so well and flying fast enough that initial distance doesnt matter. But with trad when even the slightest deviation in form can mean throwing a shot why would I wanna add an arrow that's fighting itself all the way to a typical distance hunting shot?
@@nicetryb0z0 I had a good chuckle, thanks.
@@rattlingjunkie that's the response I expected. You're welcome.
Totally Unnecessary step! Tim gillingham would agree but I guess If it gives you more confidence go for it. If you do a comparison of a left and right you will see zero difference at all
That’s what we found!
Correct
Another consideration with a counterclockwise string, you’ll always be battling peep twist because the string fibers are twisted the opposite way.
It matters for traditional shooters.
Right : just because with left helico, your tips risk unscrewing on impact
Actually, with single bevel broadheads, the arrow spinning or not spinning will not affect the broadhead spinning upon imact. The design of the single bevel does that for you. Ranch Fairy shows that by pushing a sigle bevel into a potatoe and it twists with just straight pressure, no spin. Again the single bevel by design will twist upon imact of harder matter, i.e. bones and such. Long story short, an arrow that is not spinning at impact, the single bevel will still twist and break bone.
Yeah pushing an arrow into a potato is real scientific
Bull 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
I also thought it was string twist that determined arrow spin direction, until I saw the linked video from Paige Pierce. If you have not heard of her she is one of the best female archers in the world. Her video shows 2 different arrows clocking different directions off of the same bow.
ruclips.net/video/ebSxqxBq1w8/видео.html
We had a 2 arrows out of 9 that wanted to act opposite. The string manufacturer we talked to said nock pressure could cause that
I’m glad someone else pointed this out.
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🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
It’s irrelevant
Is it though? If you fletch an arrow the opposite direction than your natural rotation then it will result in some sort of energy loss. Regardless if it matters or not, it’s a small step I don’t mind taking to ensure as close to perfection as i can.
The best part of this video is you guys found the yardage where it corrects. For longbow and recurve guys that 15-18yd make screams at us. Because many of us wont even takena hunting shot past that so this basically means if you fletch wrong your arrow is flying the whole way to the target with fletching thats working against the arrow!!! Wow
I have archery tomorrow at school so I'm going to do that 😁