your manual overclock does not seem to make sense I have a 7600 non x and have it manually set to 1.26v 5600mhz all core. Is their something wrong with the test?
I have a TUF B650M with 7600X and 32GB 6000 CL30 Z5 Neo EXPO...maybe I just duplicate his settings in my BIOS and if nothing catches on fire I can post results. 🤪
@@cainankitts7216 He posted a new Ryzen 7000 c-state video that seems to indicate eclk is the best. I am not sure the 7600X can do anything nore than 5450MHz, but my HWinfo shows 6800MHz in gaming, and saw an 18,000Mhz on the max for some reason, so I am clueless as to understanding what Ryzens do.
With a 7600x and a b650e (gigabyte b650 eagle) running - 25 all cores, +75 boost clock, and a tjmax of 80 lets me hit 5250 long term all cores and 5600ish single core or short term multi core, memory at 6000, mclk=uclk and 2133 (unstable at higher with my mobo) fclk, seems later 7600x have more headroom, haven't tried positive eclk myself yet. One issue seems to be the heat spreader as different coolers don't make a ton of difference
I have a 7500F, a cheap and cheerful CPU. I am able to hit 5.35GHz and possibly more with a static overclock that requires no less than 1.29v, but I think it can go further given enough voltage. Possibly 5.45GHz. My question is, what is a relatively safe voltage that can be used without the risk of it degrading?
AMD's factory-fused V/F curve goes up to 1.45V 1T and ~1.35V nT for Ryzen 7000 CPUs. Since that's what they think is safe enough to put a warranty label on, I'd say is pretty safe. I don't think you'll be able to run that voltage, however. What you can do is switch the Precision Boost, enable PBO, and run a heavy stress test. Then use HWiNFO to check the voltage the CPU is automatically using. If your cooling is good, it shouldn't diverge too much from what you're setting it at currently.
my pc settings pbo advanced, pbo limits manual, curve optimizer negative -15 . gettings 5.45ghz single core nd 5.40 ghz multicore. in gaming max temp 50-60c , cinebench r23 multi 15264 and single 1957 scores. cinebech r23 multi core temp 75c max with 360 aio
I read somewhere that EXPO I is tweaked by Asus and EXPO II is the "pure" EXPO profile. But on my case the EXPO II clocks down my RAM from 6000 (default speed for my kit) to 5600, so idk about that. Anyway, EXPO I with AI Overclock turns my system unstable while crunching on BOINC. I'm still trying to figure this all out, coming from a Haswell there's a LOT of info to tap into lol
I already have a video out with the Ryzen 9 7900 ruclips.net/video/I5ZpKsKWw8U/видео.html and was also planning the 7700 and 7600 at some point. But after all these CPU guides, I feel it's time to try another GPU OC guide :)
@@cant_Comment that's great. These are great CPUs to play with. I finally got 5.5 with a 240mm AiO. Gains weren't great in gaming so I backed it off in favour of just running cooler.
Hey scatterbencher I wanted to mention something I tried recently. I have tried every method I could find overclocking for my 7950x and the best overall results I have achieved is using the standard precision boost algorithm with an eclk setting to modify the clock speeds and the voltage offset setting built into the x670e gene. Cstates off. It seems to for my cooling solution hit that “triple point” of temperature frequency and voltage. The voltage spikes in PBO I think unnecessarily heated the chip limiting clock speeds. This is obviously not the best at all core or single core. It’s a great balance without configuring an algorithm manually.
Sounds pretty good! The only comment I have is that C-States should really be enabled because the Precision Boost algorithm relies on it to maximize performance. C-State enabled allows some cores to go to deeper sleep, thus reducing power and thermal which opens headroom for higher boost.
Looking for help. I got a 7600x and gigabyte b650m ds3h but i can't figure why i can't reach 135w with total power at stock during cinebenchr23. it always stays under 90w, more like 85w. No matter what I change in bios in pbo for power limit to manually, motherboard, auto... Looking other video i always see 130-135w under cinebench. Is there something to do to remove this power limitation on the cpu ?
I scratched my screen due to your avatar and then I felt embarrassed reading your nickname. The only thing I'm sad about is not wasting more time of your life
Heads Up! If your CPU is not boosting beyond 5.5 GHz when more than 4 cores are active, here's why: ruclips.net/video/A8kf7Psn_Z0/видео.html
your manual overclock does not seem to make sense I have a 7600 non x and have it manually set to 1.26v 5600mhz all core. Is their something wrong with the test?
can ı do with settings in msi b650 edge wifi ı dont have an asus rog motherboard
Would love to see what the B650 and B650E boards can do.
I have a TUF B650M with 7600X and 32GB 6000 CL30 Z5 Neo EXPO...maybe I just duplicate his settings in my BIOS and if nothing catches on fire I can post results. 🤪
@@paulanderegg5536 any updates?
@@cainankitts7216 He posted a new Ryzen 7000 c-state video that seems to indicate eclk is the best. I am not sure the 7600X can do anything nore than 5450MHz, but my HWinfo shows 6800MHz in gaming, and saw an 18,000Mhz on the max for some reason, so I am clueless as to understanding what Ryzens do.
With a 7600x and a b650e (gigabyte b650 eagle) running - 25 all cores, +75 boost clock, and a tjmax of 80 lets me hit 5250 long term all cores and 5600ish single core or short term multi core, memory at 6000, mclk=uclk and 2133 (unstable at higher with my mobo) fclk, seems later 7600x have more headroom, haven't tried positive eclk myself yet. One issue seems to be the heat spreader as different coolers don't make a ton of difference
Well done with the in depth information. AMD should point everyone to your videos if they have any Zen 4 technology questions. 😀
Please do this again with a delid, direct contact overclock. I would love to know if I should delid a 7600x or 7700x
I have a 7500F, a cheap and cheerful CPU. I am able to hit 5.35GHz and possibly more with a static overclock that requires no less than 1.29v, but I think it can go further given enough voltage. Possibly 5.45GHz.
My question is, what is a relatively safe voltage that can be used without the risk of it degrading?
AMD's factory-fused V/F curve goes up to 1.45V 1T and ~1.35V nT for Ryzen 7000 CPUs. Since that's what they think is safe enough to put a warranty label on, I'd say is pretty safe.
I don't think you'll be able to run that voltage, however. What you can do is switch the Precision Boost, enable PBO, and run a heavy stress test. Then use HWiNFO to check the voltage the CPU is automatically using. If your cooling is good, it shouldn't diverge too much from what you're setting it at currently.
@SkatterBencher Thank you for the fast response! I'll give that a try and see what else I can squeeze out.
mb u could make video on tuning /OC for gaming
in same games, high end cpus does always get full gpu usage
great content, thx
my pc settings
pbo advanced, pbo limits manual, curve optimizer negative -15 . gettings 5.45ghz single core nd 5.40 ghz multicore. in gaming max temp 50-60c , cinebench r23 multi 15264 and single 1957 scores. cinebech r23 multi core temp 75c max with 360 aio
5425GHz manual OC and UV and getting ~15600 with Arctic 240mm AIO @77C max on Cinebench R23
I really hope you revist this cpu and the 7950 once you get a direct die water cooler!
I have an asus x670e-a wifi but theres no eclk mode??
Hello, are you planing to make content on memory scaling, tuning, analysis for ryzen 7000?
Maybe next year when I have time. I have a bunch of Raptor Lake stuff I haven't started on yet, so that needs to come first :)
Amazing
Why is it that max recommended static voltage is higher for the smaller chips? I've seen recommendations that are below 1.25v for the 7950x
Is it higher for smaller chips? Or is it just that smaller chips with less transistors have higher voltage headroom before hitting the thermal limit?
respect
What is the difference between EXPO I and EXPO II in the Ai Tweaker menu?
I read somewhere that EXPO I is tweaked by Asus and EXPO II is the "pure" EXPO profile. But on my case the EXPO II clocks down my RAM from 6000 (default speed for my kit) to 5600, so idk about that. Anyway, EXPO I with AI Overclock turns my system unstable while crunching on BOINC. I'm still trying to figure this all out, coming from a Haswell there's a LOT of info to tap into lol
@@GabeBars I found that EXPO 1 loads half and trains half, and EXPO 2 has a lot of what is AUTO in EXPO 1 instead set to a specific profile value.
This was great. Would you consider doing the same with the non X variants?
I already have a video out with the Ryzen 9 7900 ruclips.net/video/I5ZpKsKWw8U/видео.html and was also planning the 7700 and 7600 at some point. But after all these CPU guides, I feel it's time to try another GPU OC guide :)
@@SkatterBencher I've tried with my 7600 and got 5.4ghz stable and comfy with a 120mm aio. With a beefier one I think it could get around 5.55...
@@kesigangovender5204 i got mine to 5.4 as well. it was stable. temperature wasnt bad either
@@cant_Comment that's great. These are great CPUs to play with. I finally got 5.5 with a 240mm AiO. Gains weren't great in gaming so I backed it off in favour of just running cooler.
Hey scatterbencher I wanted to mention something I tried recently. I have tried every method I could find overclocking for my 7950x and the best overall results I have achieved is using the standard precision boost algorithm with an eclk setting to modify the clock speeds and the voltage offset setting built into the x670e gene. Cstates off. It seems to for my cooling solution hit that “triple point” of temperature frequency and voltage. The voltage spikes in PBO I think unnecessarily heated the chip limiting clock speeds. This is obviously not the best at all core or single core. It’s a great balance without configuring an algorithm manually.
Sounds pretty good! The only comment I have is that C-States should really be enabled because the Precision Boost algorithm relies on it to maximize performance. C-State enabled allows some cores to go to deeper sleep, thus reducing power and thermal which opens headroom for higher boost.
@@SkatterBencher I’ll try this too. Someone told me cstates increase memory latency but if it’s no big deal I should try both.
Is it really true you and Massman are the same guy Pieter?
Yes Sir!
Im getting better results than this video in cinebench (156xx) just using curve optimiser per core (-30). Temps are only around 75c too.
Looking for help. I got a 7600x and gigabyte b650m ds3h but i can't figure why i can't reach 135w with total power at stock during cinebenchr23. it always stays under 90w, more like 85w. No matter what I change in bios in pbo for power limit to manually, motherboard, auto... Looking other video i always see 130-135w under cinebench. Is there something to do to remove this power limitation on the cpu ?
Look if you accidentally have eco mode on
I use auto OC and have 5.550hz
5.550ghz
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I got 10 more fps. Absolutely life-changing 47 minutes of my life gone
I scratched my screen due to your avatar and then I felt embarrassed reading your nickname.
The only thing I'm sad about is not wasting more time of your life
@@SkatterBencher Nah don't be sad, I'm younger than you.
@@kolack100 Fuck you got me too 😂 not even mad
@@SkatterBencher thanks for the effort you put into this , I appreciated it
You still got a solid performance boost you aren't gonna get 50 or 100 more fps from a overclock unless you buy a much higher end CPU and GPU
Looks like zen is great for plug and play users, and Intel the chip for the tuners again. Personally I'd rather tune, it's half the fun
... Oh boy, only 9%? That's lame. Zen 4 really isn't anywhere near as fun to overclock as I thought it'd be.
Overclocking the 13600k from 5.1 ghz to 5.8ghz is only 12% what else did you expect? In fact 5.3ghz to 5.5ghz is only 4%
Overclocking has always been about getting that extra few percent.