I had an old account with PLTR shares I had forgotten about. This vid just reminded me and avg price was 27. Atrioc just made me a band, thank you king.
@@jamesburnett4443 Atrioc said that the goverment would bail them out and i said that is the same as saying "they are too big to fail" so yeah in this case is literally that
Same reason Canada real estate can’t go down because everyone’s retirement is on it so government actually doesn’t want house prices to drop they just create programs to try and make it “affordable”
its insane that governments make the same mistake only 14 years apart when i heard the saying "history repeat itself",i never imagine it to repeat THAT fast
This is the reason why you want to diversify outside of the S&P 500. Long term, this large cap overperformance has been shown to be unsustainable. Every study ever done on the subject shows that foreign stocks and US stocks take turns overperforming every 15 years or so. As well, small caps and value (stocks with a low price to earnings/book value) stocks historically always overperform large caps over long periods of time due to them having a larger baked in risk premium. Long term, the S&P 500 cannot continue the insane run up it had over the last 10 years. Lower returns, specifically in the S&P 500 are coming, as the S&P 500 now has a PE ratio 15 points higher than for non US stocks (PE ratio of 29 vs 14). Every indicator in the world is showing that US stocks cannot continue to go up indefinitely. They need to slow down long enough for future profit growth to actually catch up to the current valuations. Meanwhile, European companies are trading and literally half the price of US companies per dollar of profit.
That's why Warren Buffet is holding so much US treasury instead. Because he's felt like the US stocks have been incredibly overvalued for a long time. But everyone thinks he quit too early and missed out on a ton of growth and profit opportunities. Even now that Trump got elected and companies plan to enjoy their freedom, we don't know when the stocks will actually go down. There has to be some kind of bubble burst and idk what kinda bubble that would be.
@@ytubeanon The answer is to diversify across all asset classes including foreign stocks and small/medium caps. We don't know how or when the US large cap over performance will end, but it will end. It could be that US large caps just trade sideways for 5 years before shooting up quickly. It could be a crash, but we don't know. What we do know is that you can't try and time these things. You need to have a portfolio that is prepared for all situations. Which is why you diversify into all company sizes (small, medium, and large) and across global markets. The issue with the S&P 500 is that it isn't properly diversified. It is all large US companies. No foreign companies and no small/medium companies. This means that the entire index is full of companies that move tightly together. You want companies that have a smaller correlation, it creates a better long term outcome.
@@mattbenz99but you’re assuming that the mean is objective and that the world is linear versus exponential. Technology is exponential, the timeline we live in today is exponential, mean regression is a heuristic more than it is objective. I’m not saying valuation is or isn’t high because most things market is relative but pull the aperture further out and one can come up the conclusion that the world is moving in an exponential scale which would change the long term mean for p/e. All of this of course is subject to ideology and narratives, but that is the market we have today. Also if inflation increases, so does the average asset price, which will throw off the historical figures. I’m not against diversification in a more uncertain world, that’s why asset diversification including being in crypto and non correlated asset is important, but some of the best gains I’ve gotten in my life have been from idealized gut investing into companies i liked such as NVDA and large tech as a whole. An easy marker for investing is just looking around and see what people can’t without. Technology definitely is one of those things thing. Your assessment is great though, I’m not taking away from that, it’s the Ray Dalio strategy during kairos/precipices.
yeah, ultimately these high prices either imply low future returns, high earnings growth or further multiples inflation. Earnings growth in aggregate is limited by capitals share of GDP. You can bet on further multiples expansion but thats speculation and unless you have some reason to believe itll br the case it doessnt seem too good. On the other hand you cant invest in China and Europes looking bad, so what are you going to do?
I think it was pretty clear Alex was joking or being sarcastic. Moving to NASDAQ doesn’t automatically mean Palantir gets into ETFs like QQQ, it just makes them eligible, and it’s up to the organizers of them to include. The hype seems more about their long-term growth, especially with their commercial sector and AI focus. Sure, the P/E is still crazy (actually around 300 now), but it’s the AI bubble we’re living in, and they’re positioned pretty well for the future. Whether they get into an ETF now or gets snuck it in later when the hype dies down and people stop refreshing the QQQ holdings page, it’s definitely a stock that’s going to keep people talking.
8:45 it's not everyone's retirement, it's not even half the folk who have the ABILITY to retire Big A...its like 12% of the population. I say the Govt should let em squirm, they won't, and I'll be honest its pretty cool that folk in that boat have a safety net. But we're not in the same boat brother...
I've held 94k $PLTR shares since 2020 at around $9 each. Now, I'm selling some to buy growth stocks. With market volatility, should I reinvest in gold instead?
Well all i know is that you cannot go wrong taking profit at near high. No one ever went broke taking a 10% loss. It's best if you consult with a fiduciary advisor to get informed buying & selling decisions.
Accurate! Asset allocation is crucial with an Experts guidance. I have 850k in equity, 275 cash earning 5.25 interest, 685k in 401k, 120k cash account, 80k in car assets ( paid off cars) Gold and silver bars. age is 48. My advisor helped me realign my portfolio to my risk tolerance and it boomed shortly.
Could you share how I can reach out to them? I've recently sold my condo in Alabama and I'm interested in investing in stocks, I'm just seeking proper guidance.
Marissa Lynn Babula is the advisr I use and im just putting this out here because you asked. You can Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.
I know this may be a buzzkill, but these videos always give me something to distract myself with in the evenings when my mental starts to get bad. Thank you got the consistency and the interesting topics!!
They also do computer vision analysis on stuff related to immigrants and crime assessment which probably will increase its revenue and government contracts during the new Presidency
man that kinda thing is gonna be such a problem, current ‘ai’ models are already built (subconsciously or otherwise) to reflect a white society. it doesn’t take much of a leap to imagine the danger of it being fed data (or individually ‘learning’) that darker skin tone = criminal
I hate talking about Thiel and his businesses cause it always makes me start to sound like a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist. But yeah some of these products are being used in enforcement - and probably not being used well, legally, and have some major accuracy issues.
So if the stock goes down, the government prevents the riots at the zoo?? I wish he would just explain it with a glizzy example, so I could understand better
If you are paid 400 glizzies a week and Mr Diamond Hands says to you, "if you give me 10 of those a week, i'll turn them into 1000 in a year!" You dont mind the 10 going out every week because little risk, high payoff sometime later. Mr Diamond Hands comes around the next year with exactly 1000 glizzies. "Wow, this is amazing Diamond Hands!, here's 20 a week this time, can you make me 2000?" See Mr Diamond Hands did this deal with EVERYBODY, and he goes around showing everyone the same 1000 glizzies he collected from everybody tricking you into thinking this is working, he actually turns the 520 glizzies into just 600. But you'll never know unless everybody cashes out these glizzies.
if the stock goes down _and_ most americans have that stock for retirement, Jerome Powell prints infinite money into the coffers of hedge funds until one of them “defects” (prisoner’s dilemma) and actually bids the price back up to whatever it was in May of that year. then we all cheer, then 6 months later start weeping blood due to inflation.
Theory essentially is the same as the 2008 banks, you can't let them all crash or capitalism ceases to be viable. Lehman crashes, but Goldman Sachs, Citi etc all remain (in part due to fckloads of gov funding!). These were 'bailouts' and were very unpopular bc they were seen as being paid for from 'taxpayers money' If everyone relies on index funds eg S&P and NASDAQ for savings and pensions then average people become unable to retire, unable to spend, and unable to function if these collapse (along with the fact all the biggest companies in your country are now dead and that's Very Bad, this happened to Japan like twenty years ago and now their living standards have been wank for years and years). If all the companies in your country cut all their jobs, closed all their sites AND you just lost half your pension, you'd probably go smash up the local town centre or some sht, think 2020 riots on steroids. "Nobody (monkeys) liked that!" is the vibe of how the country (zoo) would feel. Government recognizes all these things are bad, doesn't want the stress or the issues it would create, so it slam dunks money into the companies/the index/your pension to save it, and in turn save themselves from mass arson. If I had to guess, they probably wouldn't actually pay all the individual companies (too expensive), but they might do something like covering a certain portion of each individual person's lost money. Think of the Financial Services Compensation Scheme (all money in custodian banks up to £85K in the UK will be paid back to the owner if the bank crashes) but applied to 401K. I have my own views about the merits of this argument, but that's what the argument is, as far as I understand it.
7:14 This is best time to list as it would force people to buy at the top. Insiders can offload at a higher price and after a price correction can buy back shares
That "they can't let it fail" strategy only works if the companies are in the same purview as the citizens buying stocks from them. No company is "too big to fail" if the primary investment is foreigners. This is basically modern monetary theory, but for stocks.
I bought and sold for a profit of 6 dollars this July after holding for 3 years and all of a sudden they triple in value lmao. And I found out from here of all places.
One of my profs had a financial planner come to class as a guest speaker. I asked if he thought the auto buy ETFs had an impact on the market, he looked at me with a straight face, and said "no, there aren't enough of those plans to have an impact". I cant
I bought PLTR at IPO and rode it to $7, but I kept averaging down til my cost base was like $20. I sold last week at 56 ans im glad I did even though it means I missed out on some future profits. I’m basically out of the stock market except for retirement/ long term for now. I’m tailing atriocs prediction for a rocky stock market 2025
9:20 this is how I look at the Australian housing market everyone has been negative gearing for decades the government can’t do anything to stop it without ruining everyone’s life who’s over 40 so I don’t see a housing crash anytime soon because it is engrained in the Australian mind set that you need to buy a house no matter the cost
my friend has put half of his bank account into pltr almost a year ago on a whim since my brother liked it. Last I checked he was up 400% at avg price of 11 per share. mf is up a few tens of thousands.
A friend of mine bought doge coin before Elon musk shouted it out on twitter. Unfortunately he never sold it and the 100k he could've gotten for free disappeared. Your friend has to sell it before it completely tanks
I'm not going to sit here and debate whether or not Palantir is overpriced or not. A lot of companies are priced so differently that I have no say in the matter. For anyone who used Palantir as a replacement for other systems: you know exactly why it's so well regarded. This is why civilians are always. They have no idea what exists.
I don't understand why this Alex Moore guy would get in trouble. What exactly is being done here that's illegal? I'm reasonably certain misinformation is required for a pump and dump scheme and there's no misinformation here.
Palantir puts on "Boot Camp" events where commercial companies that have implemented PLTR's ontology tech talk to other potential customers about how much it has increased their efficiency and boosted their margins. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. It's not standard practice for a company to set up whole events where existing customers get up and sell the product to future customers. You can only do something like that if your product works incredibly well. EVERYONE knows the valuation of PLTR is out of control right now, that's the power of narrative momentum for you in this market. But to suggest it's not a legit company at this stage is a bit ignorant.
He seems to think that Palintir just willed themselves into the S&P etf and nasdaq. They didn’t. They met the criteria which allowed them to be able to do that… there is a distinction.
8:59 Ah, yes. The tried and true tactic of collectively ignoring reality and substituting your own. That has never, _never_ gone before wrong in the past
The idea of the market being efficient is obviously false. If the market was efficient no one would make money because everything is priced fairly lol. that’s how the medallion fund made 70% a year for 2 decades
That's not even remotely a true statement. They're vague in their public marketing but they're clearly a legit established business with important contracts and they most certainly do know what they are doing.
@@RedGreene I love the energy of some of the comment section like: Palantir doesnt even know what its doing yet somehow they make hundreds of millions of revenue lol
It’s a great stock though. Had it since it was below $5 a share. Was easy to see. The founders, what the company does, and where it operates, are far more important than the financials. Government contracts are not like sales for Apple or some such company. They snowball. Easy gains.
That seems to be the actual number both Google and Yahoo are reporting, not sure where that website got 900 from. The trailing EPS is 0.2 so the trailing P/E should be 328.85 (Stock Price / Trailing EPS). Still a crazy high number.
He's doing something legal. They won't be able to do anything to him. He deleted his whole account "just in case", not because he's necessarily in trouble.
I've actually spent a lot of time looking at their software because some of it parallels what I work on. And their stuff is pretty amazing. That said, the price is far over what it should be at this time.
pltr is kicking ace. i love the ceo. probably opening a long position in the next few months, not sure. i’m insanely picky with my stocks, i do not attempt to time at all, it is not a factor. i need to know i will be right. have been watching it daily all year.
@@ryer9646 1) the *forward* price to earnings (pe) ratio for palantir (pltr) is approximately 144.4 as of november 2024. 2) do i know what _what_ means? please elaborate your thoughts.
I sold too early because after getting rejected the first time they were likely to join they didn’t. I held on until ~$35 and since it was LT I payed less in taxes. I missed out but I’m still happy since my cost share average was in the high teens.
People say this every 2 months. Invest or not the market goes up enough in a lifetime to make almost any investment worth it. You can’t predict a crash, stop trying to
@@NikolaiKinggYou're right. The only thing you have to do is, unless something went terribly wrong with the company's fundamentals you own shares in, you just keep it and it'll come back there.
How is this illegal or a scam? It's not like they're using insider knowledge or anything. As long as their company fulfills the requirements to be listed and included in these etfs how is this any different from any other company doing this? Just because he said it online, what does that change? If there's a problem then they should change the system so the stocks don't just keep getting bought but he's just looking at the market and trying to get the most value he can same as any other person.
Silly question but if these companies are all overvalued from random to the top big names like Nvidia, will the stock never go down unless people stop buying/ start selling? Like is there no other real world attachment to the stock value that can bring it down? It seems like we're just in the lategame stages of a monopoly game
If they miss a revenue projection that can also lower the stock, I believe. But mostly the problem starts when these assets get liquidated for retirement, as it happens in waves
The stock wouldn't go down as long as demand is up. But what would likely happen is a company loses value and then people don't want to buy it. I personally am unaware of an example of a company losing value and demand going up simultaneously.
Dividends. If you have the earnings of a billion dollar company but the stock market incorrectly values you as a trillion dollar company, then you won't be able to pay out the sums of money expected from a trillion dollar company in dividends. Also won't be able to make as big investments as most companies with the same stock value, but that's maybe a bit less immediate.
Will being added to more index funds cause more buying? yes. Will it affect the stock price in the long run? no. Stocks in the SPY do not go up because of 401k buying, if AAPL miss earnings, it will go down no matter the 401k buying. Why would Alex Moore get in trouble for that X post? He is only saying what everyone knows. Everyone agrees PLTR is overvalued right now, but PLTR is getting a premium for their expected growth and their higher then normal software margins. (because PLTR does not spend on advertising). I tell people not to buy PLTR at current prices, but I also would not sell shares right now. P/E can fall quickly in a high growth company. Just look at NVDA that had a really high P/E, but the growth that just started last year made the P/E look higher then it was.
Specifically the jump in price happens as it gets close so by the time it’s near the edge of getting in the price has already gone up. You would need to predict what’s going be in the index weeks ahead of time to get the boost as opposed to doing it days before hand.
look this balloon is to big to subsidize and price discovery will 100 percent come with time and more people retiring and selling . the bubble cant grow forever and it will cause inflation if it does. asset inflation is never just gonna live in the background and cause no issues and everyone saying it will kinda on some level knows they are wrong and are just afraid of grappling with what consequences will be
I see so many people talking about nvidia and palantir but never about fico, which is a lot more embedded into american society. Look at that growth. Zoom in in any part of the timeline with a 1 year range and tell me how often does it go down at the end of that year lol. Also, PE ratio is 135. This is peak Netherlands.
This is incredibly silly. Everybody knows, there's clear overevaluation, when shit hits the fan the average Joe is gonna lose their retirement until.... Bail out. I feel like I've seen this in 2008, right?
I got really high and bought shares when they were under $10 during my undergrad because I love LOTR. They are the only thing saving my account after Intel took a nose dive.
Overvalued general stock market? Massive political tariffs incoming? Global economic squeezes? A couple of global powder kegs of political tension with complicated wars and interwoven relationships? What could go wrong?
US stocks are well overvalued... I am just hoping my (German) pensions not caught in it. I like ETFs considering i am a filthy poor person and it is a way to get some good easy diversification. And i like some more specific ETG classes.
While stocks may be overpriced, there is also evidence that real estate and bond markets are overpriced. So what are you going to do? Also, its largely US large cap which is so overpriced. International and small-cap stocks are relatively normal. These cycles of irrational exuberance followed by a crash or stagnation are normal.
The company just went from being unprofitable to profitable, of course the pe ratio looks crazy, they will increase their earnings at 300% in a single year, of course that demands a higher valuation, I have an average of $12 on palantir and yeah it's valuation seems a little stretched but it's literally positioned perfectly, one of the only companies that saw the future need fo ai back when nobody knew what ai was. You always act like you know everything and what you're saying is 100% factual but your opinion is as good as anybody else's lol
I had an old account with PLTR shares I had forgotten about. This vid just reminded me and avg price was 27. Atrioc just made me a band, thank you king.
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The theory is literally "they are too big to fail" idk how that has work in the past...
Always reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons where Mr. Burns goes through his investments
I think Microsoft is the only company in the world that’s actually too big to fail, as seen by the CrowdStrike outage earlier in the year
After watching atrioc for a while, I'm starting to thing "too big to fail" is a roud about way of saying the government will bail them out.
@@jamesburnett4443 Atrioc said that the goverment would bail them out and i said that is the same as saying "they are too big to fail" so yeah in this case is literally that
@@NoMas_ what about google?
That final explanation of apes being sad was BRILLIANT lol
truly bringing it down to our level. what a glarketer
Same reason Canada real estate can’t go down because everyone’s retirement is on it so government actually doesn’t want house prices to drop they just create programs to try and make it “affordable”
Same in Australia. Govt has to keep blowing the property bubble because there's no investment anywhere except housing.
@@powerdove Which obviously also massively hurts all other sectors, making the economy weaker in the long term.
(and end up just inflating the prices even more)
its insane that governments make the same mistake only 14 years apart
when i heard the saying "history repeat itself",i never imagine it to repeat THAT fast
A red line moving upwards? I have never felt so conflicted in my life.
5:35 I heard "96" and started laughing along with him. Then he showed it.... I still haven't recovered
It was so high it made me think that i was mistaking p/e ratios with something else
I thought I heard that too and then.. 986!
To be fair it's not overvalued, it's just that world war 3 is already priced in.
@bpop2148 Does that mean if I buy the entire company, it would take until 2110 to make my money back (assuming the yearly earnings stay constant)?
It's over 900!
Gandalf warned us about this.
Never heard Eisenhower go by that nickname before..
I understood that reference.
Putting AI in the military is a crazy prospect given how much info it would get and how entrenched it could become
Wdym, Israelis already doing that in Gaza.
Not for accuracy tho.
Well kinda, but not the good one.
@@mr_sanchez no i agree with you, im speaking more in relation to the US
trying to leech off the success of E = MC^2 + AI
They're basically Salesforce for military/defense contractors. So yeah it's probably worse than what you're already imagining lol
Yeah they're using it to target journalists and their whole family.@@mr_sanchez
This is the reason why you want to diversify outside of the S&P 500. Long term, this large cap overperformance has been shown to be unsustainable. Every study ever done on the subject shows that foreign stocks and US stocks take turns overperforming every 15 years or so. As well, small caps and value (stocks with a low price to earnings/book value) stocks historically always overperform large caps over long periods of time due to them having a larger baked in risk premium. Long term, the S&P 500 cannot continue the insane run up it had over the last 10 years. Lower returns, specifically in the S&P 500 are coming, as the S&P 500 now has a PE ratio 15 points higher than for non US stocks (PE ratio of 29 vs 14).
Every indicator in the world is showing that US stocks cannot continue to go up indefinitely. They need to slow down long enough for future profit growth to actually catch up to the current valuations. Meanwhile, European companies are trading and literally half the price of US companies per dollar of profit.
That's why Warren Buffet is holding so much US treasury instead. Because he's felt like the US stocks have been incredibly overvalued for a long time. But everyone thinks he quit too early and missed out on a ton of growth and profit opportunities. Even now that Trump got elected and companies plan to enjoy their freedom, we don't know when the stocks will actually go down. There has to be some kind of bubble burst and idk what kinda bubble that would be.
so would the answer be to buy Euro stocks?
@@ytubeanon The answer is to diversify across all asset classes including foreign stocks and small/medium caps. We don't know how or when the US large cap over performance will end, but it will end. It could be that US large caps just trade sideways for 5 years before shooting up quickly. It could be a crash, but we don't know. What we do know is that you can't try and time these things. You need to have a portfolio that is prepared for all situations. Which is why you diversify into all company sizes (small, medium, and large) and across global markets.
The issue with the S&P 500 is that it isn't properly diversified. It is all large US companies. No foreign companies and no small/medium companies. This means that the entire index is full of companies that move tightly together. You want companies that have a smaller correlation, it creates a better long term outcome.
@@mattbenz99but you’re assuming that the mean is objective and that the world is linear versus exponential. Technology is exponential, the timeline we live in today is exponential, mean regression is a heuristic more than it is objective. I’m not saying valuation is or isn’t high because most things market is relative but pull the aperture further out and one can come up the conclusion that the world is moving in an exponential scale which would change the long term mean for p/e. All of this of course is subject to ideology and narratives, but that is the market we have today. Also if inflation increases, so does the average asset price, which will throw off the historical figures.
I’m not against diversification in a more uncertain world, that’s why asset diversification including being in crypto and non correlated asset is important, but some of the best gains I’ve gotten in my life have been from idealized gut investing into companies i liked such as NVDA and large tech as a whole. An easy marker for investing is just looking around and see what people can’t without. Technology definitely is one of those things thing. Your assessment is great though, I’m not taking away from that, it’s the Ray Dalio strategy during kairos/precipices.
yeah, ultimately these high prices either imply low future returns, high earnings growth or further multiples inflation. Earnings growth in aggregate is limited by capitals share of GDP. You can bet on further multiples expansion but thats speculation and unless you have some reason to believe itll br the case it doessnt seem too good. On the other hand you cant invest in China and Europes looking bad, so what are you going to do?
Oh well there goes the Efficient Market Hypothesis.
I sold my Palantir stock at $40 earlier this year... so goes the dodo bird.
I bought at 16 and sold at 23 😭
@MarshioPK I bought at $22 it then tanked to $7 I held till $40 and got off the rollercoaster.
@@TopShot501st You made a profit that's what matters
@@moth.monster This is why I don't look back at previous stocks I've sold. Makes me feel FOMO.
hindsights 2020 you made your money now rest easy that you wont have to deal with the horror of the stock crashing on yoy
I think it was pretty clear Alex was joking or being sarcastic. Moving to NASDAQ doesn’t automatically mean Palantir gets into ETFs like QQQ, it just makes them eligible, and it’s up to the organizers of them to include. The hype seems more about their long-term growth, especially with their commercial sector and AI focus. Sure, the P/E is still crazy (actually around 300 now), but it’s the AI bubble we’re living in, and they’re positioned pretty well for the future. Whether they get into an ETF now or gets snuck it in later when the hype dies down and people stop refreshing the QQQ holdings page, it’s definitely a stock that’s going to keep people talking.
8:45 it's not everyone's retirement, it's not even half the folk who have the ABILITY to retire Big A...its like 12% of the population. I say the Govt should let em squirm, they won't, and I'll be honest its pretty cool that folk in that boat have a safety net. But we're not in the same boat brother...
0:00 atrioc starts talking
Last time I was this early my glizzy was called a hot dog
Brandon H.D.H. Ewing?
I've held 94k $PLTR shares since 2020 at around $9 each. Now, I'm selling some to buy growth stocks. With market volatility, should I reinvest in gold instead?
Well all i know is that you cannot go wrong taking profit at near high. No one ever went broke taking a 10% loss. It's best if you consult with a fiduciary advisor to get informed buying & selling decisions.
Accurate! Asset allocation is crucial with an Experts guidance. I have 850k in equity, 275 cash earning 5.25 interest, 685k in 401k, 120k cash account, 80k in car assets ( paid off cars) Gold and silver bars. age is 48. My advisor helped me realign my portfolio to my risk tolerance and it boomed shortly.
Could you share how I can reach out to them? I've recently sold my condo in Alabama and I'm interested in investing in stocks, I'm just seeking proper guidance.
Marissa Lynn Babula is the advisr I use and im just putting this out here because you asked. You can Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.
Thank you for the lead. I searched her up, and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.
I know this may be a buzzkill, but these videos always give me something to distract myself with in the evenings when my mental starts to get bad. Thank you got the consistency and the interesting topics!!
I feel the same way mane, keep your head up and don’t just distract yourself, lets all get better
keep your chin up king
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They also do computer vision analysis on stuff related to immigrants and crime assessment which probably will increase its revenue and government contracts during the new Presidency
Also Peter Thiel is a conservative, so makes sense.
@@fujinshuHe is a "race realist", libertarian and way more bad shit.
man that kinda thing is gonna be such a problem, current ‘ai’ models are already built (subconsciously or otherwise) to reflect a white society. it doesn’t take much of a leap to imagine the danger of it being fed data (or individually ‘learning’) that darker skin tone = criminal
I hate talking about Thiel and his businesses cause it always makes me start to sound like a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist.
But yeah some of these products are being used in enforcement - and probably not being used well, legally, and have some major accuracy issues.
@ Who cares about “legally” when your best friend is POTUS?
7:28 that Chater is BASED National/Enterprise is the best. Trust me I travel for work 30 days out of the month 🚙 ✈️
So if the stock goes down, the government prevents the riots at the zoo??
I wish he would just explain it with a glizzy example, so I could understand better
If you are paid 400 glizzies a week and Mr Diamond Hands says to you,
"if you give me 10 of those a week, i'll turn them into 1000 in a year!"
You dont mind the 10 going out every week because little risk, high payoff sometime later.
Mr Diamond Hands comes around the next year with exactly 1000 glizzies.
"Wow, this is amazing Diamond Hands!, here's 20 a week this time, can you make me 2000?"
See Mr Diamond Hands did this deal with EVERYBODY, and he goes around showing everyone the same 1000 glizzies he collected from everybody tricking you into thinking this is working, he actually turns the 520 glizzies into just 600.
But you'll never know unless everybody cashes out these glizzies.
if the stock goes down _and_ most americans have that stock for retirement, Jerome Powell prints infinite money into the coffers of hedge funds until one of them “defects” (prisoner’s dilemma) and actually bids the price back up to whatever it was in May of that year. then we all cheer, then 6 months later start weeping blood due to inflation.
Theory essentially is the same as the 2008 banks, you can't let them all crash or capitalism ceases to be viable.
Lehman crashes, but Goldman Sachs, Citi etc all remain (in part due to fckloads of gov funding!).
These were 'bailouts' and were very unpopular bc they were seen as being paid for from 'taxpayers money'
If everyone relies on index funds eg S&P and NASDAQ for savings and pensions then average people become unable to retire, unable to spend, and unable to function if these collapse (along with the fact all the biggest companies in your country are now dead and that's Very Bad, this happened to Japan like twenty years ago and now their living standards have been wank for years and years).
If all the companies in your country cut all their jobs, closed all their sites AND you just lost half your pension, you'd probably go smash up the local town centre or some sht, think 2020 riots on steroids.
"Nobody (monkeys) liked that!" is the vibe of how the country (zoo) would feel.
Government recognizes all these things are bad, doesn't want the stress or the issues it would create, so it slam dunks money into the companies/the index/your pension to save it, and in turn save themselves from mass arson.
If I had to guess, they probably wouldn't actually pay all the individual companies (too expensive), but they might do something like covering a certain portion of each individual person's lost money.
Think of the Financial Services Compensation Scheme (all money in custodian banks up to £85K in the UK will be paid back to the owner if the bank crashes) but applied to 401K.
I have my own views about the merits of this argument, but that's what the argument is, as far as I understand it.
Are you telling me that solidarity in stupidity is the legit meta of the stock market
Always has been
Yes also Cocaine and dwarf tossing
7:14 This is best time to list as it would force people to buy at the top. Insiders can offload at a higher price and after a price correction can buy back shares
Always soothing to get the trademark Atroic audio spikes in my right ear
8:50 this is the last words to be said before an It's Always Sunny intro card
That "they can't let it fail" strategy only works if the companies are in the same purview as the citizens buying stocks from them. No company is "too big to fail" if the primary investment is foreigners. This is basically modern monetary theory, but for stocks.
I bought and sold for a profit of 6 dollars this July after holding for 3 years and all of a sudden they triple in value lmao. And I found out from here of all places.
One of my profs had a financial planner come to class as a guest speaker. I asked if he thought the auto buy ETFs had an impact on the market, he looked at me with a straight face, and said "no, there aren't enough of those plans to have an impact". I cant
idk how the fuck i always manage to sell a stock before they go into those auto etf's
I bought PLTR at IPO and rode it to $7, but I kept averaging down til my cost base was like $20. I sold last week at 56 ans im glad I did even though it means I missed out on some future profits. I’m basically out of the stock market except for retirement/ long term for now. I’m tailing atriocs prediction for a rocky stock market 2025
That's awesome.
9:20 this is how I look at the Australian housing market everyone has been negative gearing for decades the government can’t do anything to stop it without ruining everyone’s life who’s over 40 so I don’t see a housing crash anytime soon because it is engrained in the Australian mind set that you need to buy a house no matter the cost
Palantir is Tesla for military 😂
is that why commercial is using Palantir as well???? and the NHS??? indeed the NHS is famously a military
Pretty sure the tendies meme comes from a famous trade DD about Tyson's chicken. Where the gains funded the OPs ability to buy chicken.
my friend has put half of his bank account into pltr almost a year ago on a whim since my brother liked it. Last I checked he was up 400% at avg price of 11 per share. mf is up a few tens of thousands.
A friend of mine bought doge coin before Elon musk shouted it out on twitter. Unfortunately he never sold it and the 100k he could've gotten for free disappeared. Your friend has to sell it before it completely tanks
The thing in the stock market is overvalued until they become bankrupt and everyone loose their saving
I'm not going to sit here and debate whether or not Palantir is overpriced or not. A lot of companies are priced so differently that I have no say in the matter.
For anyone who used Palantir as a replacement for other systems: you know exactly why it's so well regarded.
This is why civilians are always. They have no idea what exists.
Shout out AlphaBeta1021 mentioning me at 7:12
why can they list it on the NASDAQ?
I don't understand why this Alex Moore guy would get in trouble. What exactly is being done here that's illegal? I'm reasonably certain misinformation is required for a pump and dump scheme and there's no misinformation here.
8:45 "smartly" recognising a bouble envorment isn't smart if you then decide to venture further into it. That is the antithesis of smart
Palantir puts on "Boot Camp" events where commercial companies that have implemented PLTR's ontology tech talk to other potential customers about how much it has increased their efficiency and boosted their margins. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. It's not standard practice for a company to set up whole events where existing customers get up and sell the product to future customers. You can only do something like that if your product works incredibly well. EVERYONE knows the valuation of PLTR is out of control right now, that's the power of narrative momentum for you in this market. But to suggest it's not a legit company at this stage is a bit ignorant.
That's just a theory.... A GAME THEORY!!!
You just can't name your surveillance company "Palantir" and act like you're not a villain
He seems to think that Palintir just willed themselves into the S&P etf and nasdaq. They didn’t. They met the criteria which allowed them to be able to do that… there is a distinction.
A Swiss company listed in the US (On, NYSE:ONON), presumably mostly for the same reason.
lol it got into the S&P 500 on its own merit.
Sure dude, whatever keeps your hustle grift going and your status in quo. Hope you find something more inspirational in this life than... capitalism.
8:59
Ah, yes. The tried and true tactic of collectively ignoring reality and substituting your own. That has never, _never_ gone before wrong in the past
Finding a exploit in a video game:
The idea of the market being efficient is obviously false. If the market was efficient no one would make money because everything is priced fairly lol. that’s how the medallion fund made 70% a year for 2 decades
Palantir doesn’t know what palantir does
Not that hard to understand what they do…
That's not even remotely a true statement. They're vague in their public marketing but they're clearly a legit established business with important contracts and they most certainly do know what they are doing.
@@RedGreene I love the energy of some of the comment section like: Palantir doesnt even know what its doing yet somehow they make hundreds of millions of revenue lol
Bought PLTR at $8. Sold at $20. Bought again at $13 sold at $40.
If it drops back to the $20 I’ll buy more to swing.
It’s a great stock though. Had it since it was below $5 a share. Was easy to see. The founders, what the company does, and where it operates, are far more important than the financials. Government contracts are not like sales for Apple or some such company. They snowball. Easy gains.
why i see so many website with pltr P/E at 328..?
That seems to be the actual number both Google and Yahoo are reporting, not sure where that website got 900 from. The trailing EPS is 0.2 so the trailing P/E should be 328.85 (Stock Price / Trailing EPS). Still a crazy high number.
how much does pirate software get when you do his mspaint thing
He's doing something legal. They won't be able to do anything to him. He deleted his whole account "just in case", not because he's necessarily in trouble.
I've actually spent a lot of time looking at their software because some of it parallels what I work on. And their stuff is pretty amazing. That said, the price is far over what it should be at this time.
Bro You are dead right Palantir is in a HUGE bubble like a herniated tea bag!😅
They basically bought a ton of British health information
It’s so incredible
pltr is kicking ace. i love the ceo. probably opening a long position in the next few months, not sure. i’m insanely picky with my stocks, i do not attempt to time at all, it is not a factor. i need to know i will be right. have been watching it daily all year.
Did... Did you miss the P/E of 986? You do realize what that actually means right?
@@ryer9646 1) the *forward* price to earnings (pe) ratio for palantir (pltr) is approximately 144.4 as of november 2024. 2) do i know what _what_ means? please elaborate your thoughts.
@ the current forward pe is 144. do i know what what means?
@@matt.stevick I sure hope you do because that's really not that much better...
@ please enlighten me.
I sold too early because after getting rejected the first time they were likely to join they didn’t. I held on until ~$35 and since it was LT I payed less in taxes. I missed out but I’m still happy since my cost share average was in the high teens.
Everyone is in for a rude awakening next year when the market crashes. And crashes hard.
Lol picture me giving a fuck about the stock market when I don't own any stocks.
People say this every 2 months. Invest or not the market goes up enough in a lifetime to make almost any investment worth it. You can’t predict a crash, stop trying to
@@NikolaiKinggYou're right. The only thing you have to do is, unless something went terribly wrong with the company's fundamentals you own shares in, you just keep it and it'll come back there.
How is this illegal or a scam? It's not like they're using insider knowledge or anything. As long as their company fulfills the requirements to be listed and included in these etfs how is this any different from any other company doing this? Just because he said it online, what does that change? If there's a problem then they should change the system so the stocks don't just keep getting bought but he's just looking at the market and trying to get the most value he can same as any other person.
ATRIOC'S WEARING A HUEL SHIRT LET'S GO
Bro I was daytrading PLTR like 4 years ago this is hilarious
Yeah same baha weird
Bro I was bag holding shares from them until now 😅
Shout out to Enterprise car rental I’ll ever use
Silly question but if these companies are all overvalued from random to the top big names like Nvidia, will the stock never go down unless people stop buying/ start selling? Like is there no other real world attachment to the stock value that can bring it down? It seems like we're just in the lategame stages of a monopoly game
If they miss a revenue projection that can also lower the stock, I believe. But mostly the problem starts when these assets get liquidated for retirement, as it happens in waves
The stock wouldn't go down as long as demand is up. But what would likely happen is a company loses value and then people don't want to buy it. I personally am unaware of an example of a company losing value and demand going up simultaneously.
Dividends. If you have the earnings of a billion dollar company but the stock market incorrectly values you as a trillion dollar company, then you won't be able to pay out the sums of money expected from a trillion dollar company in dividends. Also won't be able to make as big investments as most companies with the same stock value, but that's maybe a bit less immediate.
@@zimbu_No wonder Tesla feels like such a small business, compared to other automakers. It’s insanely overvalued.
When more people retire than are investing money into the stock market, prices in these index funds will crash.
Will being added to more index funds cause more buying? yes. Will it affect the stock price in the long run? no. Stocks in the SPY do not go up because of 401k buying, if AAPL miss earnings, it will go down no matter the 401k buying.
Why would Alex Moore get in trouble for that X post? He is only saying what everyone knows.
Everyone agrees PLTR is overvalued right now, but PLTR is getting a premium for their expected growth and their higher then normal software margins. (because PLTR does not spend on advertising). I tell people not to buy PLTR at current prices, but I also would not sell shares right now. P/E can fall quickly in a high growth company. Just look at NVDA that had a really high P/E, but the growth that just started last year made the P/E look higher then it was.
and its bbq chicken after that
What if you set up a fund that bought everything that was an the edge of going into the other funds to capitalize off of passive 401k buying
There’s probably a fund that already does this. You may as well invest into them instead.
Specifically the jump in price happens as it gets close so by the time it’s near the edge of getting in the price has already gone up. You would need to predict what’s going be in the index weeks ahead of time to get the boost as opposed to doing it days before hand.
Yup, why I invest that way. Herd mentality
look this balloon is to big to subsidize and price discovery will 100 percent come with time and more people retiring and selling . the bubble cant grow forever and it will cause inflation if it does. asset inflation is never just gonna live in the background and cause no issues and everyone saying it will kinda on some level knows they are wrong and are just afraid of grappling with what consequences will be
I see so many people talking about nvidia and palantir but never about fico, which is a lot more embedded into american society. Look at that growth. Zoom in in any part of the timeline with a 1 year range and tell me how often does it go down at the end of that year lol. Also, PE ratio is 135.
This is peak Netherlands.
I already have a short on roblux, I think I'll see how this plays out but I ain't got no money to open up any more option contracts
i'm getting mixed signals, it seems like he's warning against Palantir, yet it sounds like he bought their stocks
Red years and blue years that is all.
The more Big A I watch the more I feel like I should liquidate everything. Feels like the entire market is a ticking time bomb
bro this could've been a 20 second vid
This is incredibly silly. Everybody knows, there's clear overevaluation, when shit hits the fan the average Joe is gonna lose their retirement until.... Bail out. I feel like I've seen this in 2008, right?
You can tell when a bunch of primes got emotional when trading and now are trapped because paid pieces like this come out.
I got really high and bought shares when they were under $10 during my undergrad because I love LOTR. They are the only thing saving my account after Intel took a nose dive.
Let's all make glizzy stand companies and list those on the NASDAQ!
Palantir's P/E ratio is now over 300 😂😂
Important to note that you will pay taxes on your 401(k) withdrawals. It's tax-deferred, not tax-free.
7:29 when u make thousands off of them it does unironically matter
who's gonna tell him that his ms paint examples are simply not helpful like those shits indecipherable
you gotta watch with the audio on
Nah they heard Cathie Wood pulled out and they went all in
deleting acc to try to hide is such an adult and smart decision. do some people think before they tweet?
I had to sell all my stock to pay some surprise expenses. I would have a lot more money right now if that did not happen.
And tesla P/E is almost 200
Anyone halucinate he was wearing a intel shirt?
Exactly like idiocracy when the brawndo stock crashed just by switching to water.
When a youtuber tells you to buy - you sell!
I guess im buying more🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
we will see how that goes
@@Ejsmich come back in 1 year and see : )
Overvalued general stock market?
Massive political tariffs incoming?
Global economic squeezes?
A couple of global powder kegs of political tension with complicated wars and interwoven relationships?
What could go wrong?
i applied for an internship at Palantr
yea obviously i didn’t get it no shot
well at least you get to keep your conscience clean and you can't buy that shit with all the bloody money palantir has
@ i mean…. making weapons for ukrainians doesn’t seem that immoral
US stocks are well overvalued...
I am just hoping my (German) pensions not caught in it.
I like ETFs considering i am a filthy poor person and it is a way to get some good easy diversification.
And i like some more specific ETG classes.
I sold some calls on half my pltr, won't be mad if they get called away
I'm literally waiting for the insider trading allegations to roll in - genuine question: is the QQQ / S&P effectively a ponzi scheme then?
While stocks may be overpriced, there is also evidence that real estate and bond markets are overpriced. So what are you going to do? Also, its largely US large cap which is so overpriced. International and small-cap stocks are relatively normal. These cycles of irrational exuberance followed by a crash or stagnation are normal.
The company just went from being unprofitable to profitable, of course the pe ratio looks crazy, they will increase their earnings at 300% in a single year, of course that demands a higher valuation, I have an average of $12 on palantir and yeah it's valuation seems a little stretched but it's literally positioned perfectly, one of the only companies that saw the future need fo ai back when nobody knew what ai was. You always act like you know everything and what you're saying is 100% factual but your opinion is as good as anybody else's lol
The great melt up begins
Another glizzy banger thank you