OOPS! Copper vs. Stainless Test Gone Wrong...
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Today, we test the biggest debate in distilling: is copper or stainless better material for a still? There'll be research to look over, debates to be discussed, and laughs to be had as you see all the mistakes this video had. But, all in all, I think we did a good job of answering the age old question - should I get a stainless still or copper still?
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Suggestion: Run a side by side all stainless experiment except one has copper mess rolls in the column. This would answer the real question, Do we really need copper at all?
you absolutely do need the copper it's reacting with sulfides that will make your liquor taste like rotten eggs you can't chemically remove the sulfides and keep it drinkable(you can't add sulfuric acid to your drinking liquor)
Thanks! I'll do this in the next video!
Respect. A very well-explained and well-controlled experiment. Cheers
I have a stainless unit. Takes a bit to heat up. I just use a lab hot plate to keep it at a consistent temp and let er run.
takes longer to heat up but holds the heat evenly and more consistent temps without scorching copper will get so hot because it conducts the heat and cools so you have to keep putting the heat to it and that's when you risk scorching(it's also best to use an oval shape so the heat can make it roll this is why we use submarine pots)
Lesson's Learned...
Remember the error's, Adapt, Adjust, Move on... Great video...
Thanks for the support, brother! Excited to redeem myself on the next one!
I admire your candor brother. Well done :) Time to take a shot :)
Hell yeah! Thanks for taking one with me, my brotha in arms!
Thanks for this! Good job overall but here is my critique: Double blind is the only real test of taste. Copper has better heat -transfer- properties it's faster/better on a flame. Transfer is the opposite of retention... So the copper would be transferring heat back into the room (vs the mash) faster than the SS. Which presents another fork in the test: Should the stills be run the at the same power throughout or managed as a run as you or I would (again double blind would be best (temp and output from unknown still). The cloudy foreshots from the copper has me puzzled. Very curious about the results in proof gallons, volume at each cut, and tasting results! Fascinating test!
Very good points, Dan! Hoping to redeem myself on the second test we do and will be touching base on all of this then!
If copper heats faster but will also cool faster. This would explain the cooler temperature at the top of the column.
Ah! Good point!
Great work Boo…each one has its strengths.👍
Thanks for watching! Appreciate you!
Copper is just beautiful. But a pain in the ass to keep it looking like that. Not for lazy people if you like buffing for fun then go for it.
in a distillery it is really difficult to keep it shiny
14:05 I thought you said the same mash was used for both. That would be a better control, for next time maybe.
Yeah, this my biggest mess up in the video. I plan to redo everything and make it right.
The all copper still does look good but the constant maintenance is a drag. So what's your favorite color crayon?.🤔😉. Cheers Boo 👍.
makes better liquor because it removes sulfides stainless won't remove it the more surface area the better the liquor will turn out
I'm really into "Robin's Egg Blue" right now, its got a really good acidity to it, yum!
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If you are doing botanicals at all, use stainless. The oils in some things do not agree with copper. :/
if you're doing botanicals like an absinthe i'd be using glass not metals
Very much agreed, Rose!
Pure Copper is antibacterial, Stainless Steel is food safe, BUT:
Stainless steels are steels containing at least 10.5% chromium, less than 1.2% carbon and other alloying elements. Stainless steel's corrosion resistance and mechanical properties can be further enhanced by adding other elements, such as nickel, molybdenum, titanium, niobium, manganese, etc. (Chromium is a heavy metal and toxic.)
Copper and its alloys (brasses, bronzes, cupronickel, copper-nickel-zinc, and others) are natural antimicrobial materials. Ancient civilizations exploited the antimicrobial properties of copper long before the concept of microbes became understood in the nineteenth century.
Don't forget that stainless has nickel which is also an anti-bacterial agent.
Loved reading this breakdown of the metals man! Learned a few things from your comment. Thanks for sharing!
Oh Boo-tip, you really screwed up this time. LOL😮 Little less drinky, little more worky.
Yeah, not my proudest video. But, I felt it still had some good info on side by side tests, regardless of the mess ups. Clearly have a few people mad at me in the comments section about it, though. Welp, hoping to redeem with a redo at a later point.
@@milehidistilling1 I was kidding Boo, if you don't make a mistake now and then, your not doing anything. Everything in this hobby is a lesson in the art of distillation. I remember a stripping run that puked big time because I was not paying attention. Don't sweat it, happens to all of us. Keep up the good work.
stainless is better for even heating and not scorching but it won't pull sulfides out so your distillate will taste like rotten eggs
Actually Copper is better for heat distribution.
Not true, we use stainless steel exclusively and there is no rotten egg taste or smell. If you are a copper believer, stuff copper mess rolls in your column.
LOL I chew crayons.... I can so relate. HAHA it was still an interesting/educating video. Cant wait for a more "correct" video.
I salute you, fellow crayon eater. Sometimes, we mess up, no biggie. Thanks for watching and for the kindness! Stay tuned!
the best video about screw-ups after screw-ups. test was made to show difference A to B, so much screw-ups that noone is sure anymore what is wrong here...
no one, NOT noone.
@dougadams9419 yeah, will give you that...
I think even with the screw ups, we already verified a lot of the differences between the two materials. The only one inconclusive was the flavor due to the mess ups. What are you even referring to?
😂 wow! 3 minutes left in the vidja and you tell us you fouled up the recipes. I don't want to be a jerk or anything but this "side-by-side" vidja just became a waste of Fn time! Thanks for that!! At least you owned up to the foul-up and made some good shine.
Shine On!
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P.S.
MAYBE CHANGE YOUR VIDJA TITLE TO.......
OOPS, I SCREWED UP! COPPER VS STAINLESS
I'm glad you said it first cause I don't wanna pile on, but ya, why even upload it?
We thought it was important to upload still. We're not perfect and we make mistakes, but we still came out with some important info during our tests on the two materials, so why not just upload, own our mistakes, and still provide some info on the debate. I knew we'd have some backlash on it, but all in all, still think this video provided some info.
@milehidistilling1 all good man just didn't get any of the information we were hoping to get when clicking on the video because of the title, it's misleading. Like @OutlawShine said just maybe change the title and there wouldn't be any backlash. Still gonna watch because I love the craft and the hobby so I like to gather as much info as possible! Shine on🤘🥃🥃
@@GorillaGlueEnthusiast Appreciate the comment, man. I can definitely appreciate the feedback and see where you guys are coming from, but can I ask what you were expecting to see on the video? The only one we didn't cover fully because of the mistake was flavor carry over. I felt like we still had some wonderful information on heat ups between the two materials, cleaning etc.
@milehidistilling1 for me specifically I was wanting to know about the sulfide carryover, does having all copper make a noticeable difference. I will be upgrading to a stainless keg still this season so was very interested to see your results. I don't have access to identical stills of different materials to experiment with. Upgrading from a stainless 3 gallon stove top still.
Love to see a video with entire process mash & distilling rather than all the chat. The visual process is much more informative sorry
We've done both of those videos on this channel. Check out some of our other videos, we've got you covered on that side of things!
Thank you for wasting 18 minutes of of my life for near completely useless information. If you worked for me, you would have been fired before the end of the video. I would never expose my business to a failed project. What I would do is, Re-shoot a new correct video, save my business reputation and burn the old one of wasted time .
Geez, that's a little dramatic. Glad I don't work for you!
you screw up the experience, why did you start all new?
young people are lazy! lol