Creating Thinset Using Grout - Mosaic Tutorial

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @alisoneyers2450
    @alisoneyers2450 2 года назад +1

    Your tutorials are great. Very clear and well crafted. Thank you. I never tire of watching. Xx

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  2 года назад +1

      Thankyou so much Alison, so very kind of you to say that and thankyou for watching. :)

  • @candacecooke5308
    @candacecooke5308 4 года назад +3

    Another excellent video! Thank you, Peter. I have learned a lot from you.

  • @josephinedouglass7938
    @josephinedouglass7938 4 года назад +1

    Absolutely love your tutorials. Sooo informative and easy to understand. I’m a beginner but but have learnt so much from your videos. Thank you

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  4 года назад

      Thankyou so much and my pleasure. :)

  • @TreasuryRoad
    @TreasuryRoad  Год назад

    If you are talking about using Laticrete Permacolour grout and Laticrete Latex Additive to create thinset, yes it can be used outdoors. Have a read of the technical data sheet on the Laticrete website, its very easy to read and will give you more info. Thanks for watching and commenting. :)

  • @poorsjm
    @poorsjm 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing this. Great information!

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад

      Thankyou very much, appreciate that. :)

  • @kayjenkins731
    @kayjenkins731 3 года назад

    Thankyou soo much, I really appreciate the time you give for these videos it is really helping me before I begin my first project.

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад

      Thankyou very much, appreciate that Kim. :)

    • @kayjenkins731
      @kayjenkins731 3 года назад

      @@TreasuryRoad May I ask what is the best way (or tool ) to evenly spread thin set on to terracotta for the larger areas where you are using glass cullet as the back ground, thankyou.

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад

      @@kayjenkins731 I find using a paint brush works quite well, if you go the my video on making a polystyrene heart, it will show me using one to apply the thinset. :)

    • @kayjenkins731
      @kayjenkins731 3 года назад

      @@TreasuryRoad Thankyou, I would never have thought of that.

  • @leanneames855
    @leanneames855 Год назад

    Fantastic, thank you.

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  Год назад

      Thankyou so much, appreciate that Leanne.

  • @ellyhoppe8533
    @ellyhoppe8533 3 года назад

    thank you for another great tutorial video

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад

      Thanks so much Elly, appreciate that. :)

  • @kaybrady4076
    @kaybrady4076 3 года назад +1

    I am so glad I found your tutorials, I am planning to make a mosaic and cement it to a rock by the ocean where I scattered my mums ashes. Any advice or tips would be gratefully appreciated.

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад

      Thankyou, appreciate that. Make sure that whatever tess you use and the products you use will be suitable for the harsh environment its going to be in. Use good branded products and have a read of the manufacturers data sheets before purchasing products or give them a call, do not just take face value comments and act on them, preparation and correct products for that environment will be key to longevity of the mosaic. :)

    • @marciaelwood5235
      @marciaelwood5235 3 года назад

      Peter...this answered alot of questions. Laticrete products are not so easy to find near me.
      I have much more understanding because you share your massive knowledge.
      I would still like to know which protect you like for sealing outdoor mosaics after they are completed.
      Thanks!!

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад

      @@marciaelwood5235 Thankyou very much, appreciate that. Laticrete have great products as do Mapei and a few others. When you mean sealing the outdoor mosaics I take it you mean the grout. I dont seal the grout on my outdoor projects because I normally use Laticrete Spectralock Pro Epoxy Grout as it doesn't require sealing however it is a three part system and more expensive. Impregnator 511 is a very good grout sealer but before purchasing make sure that you read the manufacturers technical sheets and also the MSDS as with any product to ensure its suitable for your job and you can take the necessary safety precautions. :)

  • @johnc1136
    @johnc1136 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for all of your great videos, it has helped a lot getting started in mosaics... especially for demystifying all of the grout and mortar products on the market. For the Laticrete products, I am not able to find 4237 latex admix in smaller containers. I have seen that Laticrete has a bagged/powdered thin-set mix called "254 Platinum Thin-set" that already has the latex admix in it. The product data sheet does say that it can be colored like the grout. For this 254 mix you only add water to it since the admix is already part of the blend. Have you ever tried this thin-set mix?. Getting the 4237 latex admix is looking like an issue as it is only sold in the large bucket that you showed in the video. I haven't found a mosaic company in the U.S. that sells it in smaller quantities. The only option I can see is to us the 254 Platinum thin-set with colorant to achieve the same thin-set and grout color, which would make life a lot easier. I would like to use Laticrete as it does have advantages, one of which is that the grout doesn't need to be sealed. Thanks for any information.

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад

      Thankyou so much John. Thinsets can generally be coloured with oxides, this video just shows one combination, a lot of people colour their thinsets, I haven't used the 254 Platinum thinset but I think it may be may be able to be mixed with Laticrete Permacolour Select pigment packs, just verify this with the technical data sheet. Definitely colouring your thinset is the best way to go in my opinion. :)

    • @johnc1136
      @johnc1136 3 года назад

      @@TreasuryRoad Thanks for the info. I've been looking at the Laticrete data sheets to try to figure out the best way to go with which line of product to use and what combination of thinset and grout. It's confusing because they have several different lines of products. I realize now that their "Permacolor" line of grout is all precolored and there is no uncolored base mix. Whereas the "Permacolor Select" line is meant as a base to add colorants of your choice. For the Permacolor line, the data sheet says to only add water to it, but you've done well coloring it and using admix to get a thinset out of it. I have a floor tile store near me that carries the Permacolor products, but not the Permacolor Select products. So, I might just get the several grouts in different colors and color the thinset to match as needed. Thanks for all of your help figuring this out. I can move on to the experimenting phase :)

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад

      @@johnc1136 My pleasure. You're right it can be a bit daunting. You can also ring Laticrete as they have a great technical department that are familiar with mosaics and will definitely help you choose. On the laticrete Permacolour grout technical sheet it says you can add Laticrete Latex Additive to create a coloured thinset, if you're grouting than you can just use water. I would think your tile store should be able to get in the Permacolour Select Products. :)

  • @michelles4525
    @michelles4525 3 года назад

    you are my mosaic hero. Peter, I have been wanting to take a plastic bird bath i have and mosaic it. can it be done and what would be the proper sealer and way to make the tile stick to the plastic and not lift on the corners of the birdbath thanks

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад +1

      Thankyou so much Michelle, I would avoid mosaicing over a plastic birdbath or most plastic for that matter as it can become brittle over time and and may have some flex in it, also the surface tension of the plastic can be an issue with adhesives. You are really better using terracotta or concrete and if you're in a freeze thaw area avoid using terracotta as its quite porous. We spend so much time on a mosaic its best to use a good substrate and suitable adhesives and materials to ensure the piece has longevity. :)

  • @janeadams4165
    @janeadams4165 4 года назад +1

    Hello there! Following you has been a God sent through the past 5 months....Thank you for passing on all your tips. One question with the stepping stones concrete substrate.... Even after I seal the whole piece (with Laticrete Hydrobond) will the Laticrete thinset mixture you just showed us stick to the sealed concrete? Doesn't Thinset need something to grip onto? Should I sand the paver down a little after sealing to expose some "tooth"? - I suppose same question for a bird bath....Fondly, Jane from USA

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  4 года назад

      Thankyou very much Jane. Laticrete Hydroban is a waterproofing membrane and will work on the concrete with the Laticrete thinset that I use. If your paver is super smooth and I am using Laticrete Hydroban I add some tooth to the paver before using the Hydroban but just do a small test if you're unsure. You dont have to seal your pavers just depending on the environment of where they are going, some people will just wipe the paver down with water so it doesn't absorb the moisture from the thinset when they adhere directly to the paver. The reason why some people dont like sealing is because its a barrier between the thinset and the substrate and if it fails then the piece fails. Hydroban was designed by Laticrete who make thinsets. Have a look at the Laticrete website at the manufacturers product data sheets on the products you want to use so that you are more familiar with what you are using, its a good habit to get into no matter what product you are using, these product date sheets are very important because it will tell you what you can do and any limitations the product has. :)

  • @anaschilling2668
    @anaschilling2668 Год назад

    Thanks for your tutorials , very clear demos! Question , is there a product that is glue and grout so different size tiles can be push into it, no need to grout?
    Thanks in advance 🙏

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  Год назад +1

      Thankyou so much Ana. Generally speaking thinset (cement based adhesive) can be used as an adhesive and grout. This is the way that it’s done when using Smalti and in some cases slate. Do a small sample piece with the materials you’re looking at using to make sure it’s going to work with them and it will familiarise you with the process as well. 😊

    • @anaschilling2668
      @anaschilling2668 Год назад

      @@TreasuryRoad thanks for your prompt reply, and knowledge . Yes I was thinking about to mosaic terracotta pots with shells and things I find at the beach . So just push them into the mixture. Any recommendations what brands to use,?
      Thanks again for your time 😊🐠

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  Год назад +1

      @@anaschilling2668Thankyou, I like Laticrete products for thinset, they are a world wide brand. There are different thinsets so just check with the retailer to see which one suits your needs. Also when you use the thinset use the baggie system it will give you greater control because its very sticky stuff. :)

    • @anaschilling2668
      @anaschilling2668 Год назад

      @@TreasuryRoad oh so much to learn!! Thank you so much again!! I’ll look into it!! Looking forward to my next project!!
      And Looking forward to your next videos 😊💙

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  Год назад +1

      @@anaschilling2668 you will get the hang of it pretty quickly. 😊

  • @christinemartin4338
    @christinemartin4338 Год назад

    Can this be used for outside projects?

  • @debralynnpawlak8393
    @debralynnpawlak8393 4 года назад

    This was a huge help. Thanks. This is great for outdoors, is that correct?

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  4 года назад

      Thankyou, yes this is great for outdoors.

  • @mozhdehnouripayam9470
    @mozhdehnouripayam9470 3 года назад

    Thanks Peter for your video.
    For making a thinset, If I want to use an adhesive like "Davco Glass Mosaic Additive", should I use Davco Grout aswell or any grout like Dunlop will work?

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад +1

      Thankyou very much Mozhdeh, whenever l use a product l like to use a turnkey system, if I’m creating the companies thinset l like to use the same companies grout as well as l find they are generally made to work hand in hand which can save any complications now that’s just my thoughts and l can’t comment specifically on your products. I always say to people read the manufacturers technical data sheets on the products their using as they have the accurate information you need and are very easy to read, generally available on their website. 😊

  • @Oliveoyll
    @Oliveoyll Месяц назад

    Hi! When using this method, it solidifies very quickly for me in the bag, within 30 minutes, and then I have to mix more. Any ideas to prevent that?

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  Месяц назад +1

      Hi Olive. I haven't had that happen although temperature can play a part, if its warmer it will influence the curing time, so you may want to look into the temperature. Also there are different brands and that may also play a part as well. I hope this helps and thankyou for watching and for commenting. :)

    • @Oliveoyll
      @Oliveoyll Месяц назад

      @@TreasuryRoad thank you!! It’s been hot here so I think you’re onto something :)

  • @embasador4yhvh
    @embasador4yhvh 4 года назад

    Must the grout have to be sanded in order to be converted. Also, I was under the impression that sanded grout only needs to be used when the grout joints are far apart. Any clarification would be appreciated!!! Thanks again for this video.

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  4 года назад +2

      Thanks and my pleasure. Good question, this technique with Laticrete works with sanded Permacolour grout and not with unsanded grout, I dont use unsanded grout as I find them sticky, they can shrink and their not as durable. But they have become better in recent years. Correct unsanded gout can only be used in smaller grout lines up to around 3mm, sanded grout can be used in 4mm and larger grout lines up to around 15mm give or take as a general rule. I tend to use sanded grout in narrower lines without a problem in a mosaic without issues, Im speaking here regarding Laticrete Permacolour grout as grouts are not all the same. If I was laying tiles in a house then I wouldn't be putting my grout lines as close together. You will find some people love unsanded grout and others dont, I only use Laticrete products because I love the consistency and the quality of them but thats really a personal choice. :)

  • @joannechris0
    @joannechris0 4 года назад +1

    Just so it's clear in my mind Peter..is Permacolour Grout with Additive..actually Thinset?..or Cement based Adhesive?..I was under the impression that they are 2 different things..so the additive actually makes it Thinset?..but the grout by itself does not adhere...sorry for being a bit thick!

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  4 года назад +2

      Correct the additive turns the Grout into thinset without the admix its just normal sanded grout with no adhesive properties.

    • @joannechris0
      @joannechris0 4 года назад

      Thank you!..it opens up a range of colours!

  • @kathiekarancz8695
    @kathiekarancz8695 4 года назад

    Thank you first for your great videos... love them and look forward to them.
    I’m still confused about using thinset and grout. Isn’t the additive just glue?
    I am not a fan of grouting. Can I just use thinset with glue added to replace the grouting? Make it squish between the tesserae? Thanks again 🐢

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  4 года назад

      Thankyou very much. The advantage to using the grout and adding the Latex Additive is it gives you over 40 colours of their Permacolour grout range if you want to have thinset in a different colour. You can just buy thinset on its own and use that. The additive isn't just normal "glue" its a latex additive designed to be used with their products. You can just embed your tess and have it fill the grout lines to save grouting. As always no matter what products you use make sure you read the manufacturers data sheets to ensure its suitable for your substrate, tess and environment its going into. :)

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад

      Hi Kathie I cant seem to access your comment that you left so heres my answer. You dont need to buy Laticrete products they are just my preference, just make sure its a well known brand such as Mapei or Dunlop etc. You need to use the right products that work together, dont substitute with glue as the products need to work together to ensure stability and strength. You can just buy thinset on its own and colour it with oxides or specific grout colourants, just make sure the thinset is rated for the tess you are using. Just for the record Smalti is generally not grouted as it can dull the finish and fill the pits up with grout. Using thinset with smalti is correct.

    • @kathiekarancz8695
      @kathiekarancz8695 3 года назад +1

      @@TreasuryRoad thanks again Mr. Treasury! I removed my post as I realized you had answered my question previously. I looked up Laticrete products in Amazon and they do have it in big amounts and for big money.... I’m thinking I will use the grout that I have and then see what my options are for adhesive that they have at Home Depot or even go to my local tile store to go with it.
      I also think that my problem is to work with the smalti. It’s so gorgeous and so expensive! 😳 I dont want to ruin it.
      I haven’t looked yet, but I do hope you have a video on how to start using a hammer and hardy. Now that scares me too! 🤣
      Thanks again for your generous time in answering and helping along with all the videos. Love them.
      Kathie from Mexico

  • @dishlickersgrooming9262
    @dishlickersgrooming9262 4 месяца назад

    Will thinset glue plastic pieces into a mosaic Peter?

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  4 месяца назад

      That l cannot say l have never adhered plastic with thinset. Plastic has low surface energy which creates an issue with many types of adhesives. They generally appear to stick and then let go at a later date. There are also different types of plastic which just adds to the issue. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 😊

  • @cadyknezovich3670
    @cadyknezovich3670 4 года назад

    Very helpful, Peter. Thank you! I've been searching local California stores for Laticrete products and am unsuccessful. I have grout and latex additive from a different company (Mapei). Do you know if I can use those?

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  4 года назад +1

      Thankyou for watching, you would need to call the company or have a look at the Manufacturers sheets on them, it may be even on the packaging. Laticrete is sold through specialist stores, you can always give Laticrete a call or have a look at their website for dealers, but what you have may work but its always good to verify with the company. :)

    • @cadyknezovich3670
      @cadyknezovich3670 4 года назад

      @@TreasuryRoad Will do, thank you, Peter. I've been watching your videos all afternoon. You do a great job!

  • @kayebishop9419
    @kayebishop9419 2 года назад

    what is the white stuff you put in the dry grout????

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  2 года назад

      Its Laticrete Latex Additive that turns the grout into an adhesive. Grout on its own is not an adhesive, it doesn't have any adhesive properties, it just basically fills in the grout lines. :)

  • @joannechris0
    @joannechris0 4 года назад

    Also forgot to ask..is the company who sells the Permacolour Grout Oz Mosaics?

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  4 года назад

      Yes the link is in the description box. :)

  • @sunnywilker3841
    @sunnywilker3841 3 года назад

    Thank you for this video. Is Perma color grout
    sanded or non-sanded, does it matter? Thanks again. :)

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад +1

      Thankyou. Laticrete Permacolour grout is a sanded grout. With regards to does it matter between sanded and non sanded, its best to use sanded grout for mosaics as it can go into wider grout lines and there is a greater resistance to cracking and also slumping of the grout also its a lot more durable, always go for a well known professional brand of grout to ensure you get great consistent results.

    • @sunnywilker3841
      @sunnywilker3841 3 года назад

      @@TreasuryRoad thank you for your prompt and helpful response, much appreciated. I haven’t ever used grout as an adhesive/thinset before and I’m looking forward to trying this method.
      Your videos are really straightforward and informative. Thank you for sharing your experience.

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад

      @@sunnywilker3841 Thankyou and my pleasure, just make sure that the combination of grout and additive is a combination by the same supplier and is meant to go together to create thinset. I have used the Laticrete combination for years.

    • @sunnywilker3841
      @sunnywilker3841 3 года назад

      @@TreasuryRoad I don't want to keep on at you with questions, but I'm hoping I can find this brand here in the states. I thinking I can, and if I can't find it in a tile store, I'll check Amazon. You had mentioned Amazon will sell in smaller quantities as well, so I'm thinking now, that'll be my fist stop. :) Thanks Again, Sunny

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад +1

      You will as Laticrete is based in the states and you can go to their website and it will tell you your nearest stockist, I made a video on how yo use the Laticrete website. :)

  • @clairestjames6223
    @clairestjames6223 3 года назад

    Is there a company that sells in USA?

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад

      Laticrete is global company and is based in the USA l have made a video on how to find your nearest Laticrete dealer. 😊

  • @sggdh1
    @sggdh1 4 года назад

    How long will the thin set last in the baggy?

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  4 года назад

      It depends on the environment its in but certainly a lot longer than in an open container. I use mine up reasonably quickly depending on the project Im doing but for me around a couple of hours.

  • @Valorie0221
    @Valorie0221 3 года назад

    Why can't you just adhere and grout at the same time?

    • @TreasuryRoad
      @TreasuryRoad  3 года назад

      You can adhere the tess with thinset and use that to self grout at the same time. It just depends on the process you wish to do and the look you are after. :)