Interview with CCR bassist Stu Cook

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  • Опубликовано: 17 дек 2024

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  • @mben-david2064
    @mben-david2064 Год назад +9

    Good to hear from the Stumeister. CCR was one of the greats from my childhood and I was delighted to see the Royal Albert Hall recording released finally. Looking forward to the Netflix Doc.

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад +2

      Glad you liked the interview. He documentary is awesome - mostly the Royal Albert Hall concert, FYI, but there’s some other stuff too. Enjoy!

  • @LynnSimone-iv8ru
    @LynnSimone-iv8ru 11 месяцев назад +10

    one of the most solid bassists ever. CCR needed ALL 4 guys to BE CCR.❤

  • @russgary8345
    @russgary8345 Год назад +7

    Hi Stu! I enjoyed the interview. You're looking good and all the best. --Russ

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад +1

      I’m sure Stu appreciates your kind words, Russ. Thanks for weighing in.

  • @johnvandam106
    @johnvandam106 5 месяцев назад +2

    When I first saw a video of CCR, the thing I remembered the most was Stu's glasses & his smile!
    Thanks for the development & sharing of your great talents, Stu! 🤘😎🎸

  • @ericcowan7759
    @ericcowan7759 2 года назад +12

    STU!!!! Thank you for doing this interview! You were a huge inspiration to me, with Fortunate Son, when I wanted to learn bass. That simple E string lick helped set the hook!

  • @hermiasvisser812
    @hermiasvisser812 День назад +1

    Lovely to hear these stories

  • @robale202
    @robale202 Год назад +9

    Great tone, comparable to Jim Kale of Guess Who fame. And a finger plucker, something I adapted for my own bass playing ( like, real bass players don't use a pick). Underrated, great that he talked about Tom- his rhythms are felt driving the Cook/Clifford rhythym section on their best recordings.

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад +1

      Stu's great, for sure. Thanks, robale202!

    • @LynnSimone-iv8ru
      @LynnSimone-iv8ru 11 месяцев назад +2

      one of the things that makes him such a good bassist is he thoroughly understands thw function of the bass ans he totally gets the concept of space...that the groove and soul comes from the space between the notes. . somerhing alot of players should learn.

  • @KB-hn3tx
    @KB-hn3tx 4 месяца назад +2

    I first learned CCR's existence in the early 1980s from finding the Pendulum album by chance, as a kid. I'll never get tired of hearing their music! All the four members playing songs together were perfect! It's really too bad ego & conflict of interests have destroyed the band to this day. Glad to know Stu still looks and sounds great!

  • @glennsuckling5478
    @glennsuckling5478 Год назад +4

    Thanks Stu.

  • @vmaxtur
    @vmaxtur 8 месяцев назад +3

    stu's work with southern pacific was totally awesome! One of the best bass players there are right there!

  • @marcossouza6651
    @marcossouza6651 2 года назад +5

    Thnx for this amazing interview. Good hear stu open to reunion with john and doug. Please, try to do this guys talk about it. It will be fanastic! Hugs from Brasil.

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for he comment, Marcos. Don’t hold your breath waiting for that reunion, though! 😁 Glad you liked the interview.

    • @marcossouza6651
      @marcossouza6651 2 года назад +2

      @@ForBassPlayersOnly hahaha thnx for advice, buddy. I have hope ;)

    • @ronfowlermusic
      @ronfowlermusic Год назад

      Cosmo has Parkinson's.

    • @jeanieruter7416
      @jeanieruter7416 Год назад +1

      @@ronfowlermusic That's what I've heard. I hope it's not true. 💔

  • @pgarcia1994
    @pgarcia1994 Год назад +12

    Stu, Doug, Tom, and John were Creedence Clearwater Revival. I love John Fogerty but without his explaymates, his sound (John's) is not the same. The same happened to the Beatles; John, Paul, George, and Ringo were the sound.

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад +1

      Excellent point, pgarcia1994. Thanks for weighing in.

    • @wilmamoore9341
      @wilmamoore9341 Год назад +8

      I beg to differ John has it with or without his band mates John is unbelievable

    • @broncobrian2344
      @broncobrian2344 8 месяцев назад +1

      No disrespect to Stu. Your analogy is WRONG. John wrote the songs. sang lead, played lead guitar , arranged the songs and produced the albums. When they wanted to incorporate keyboards on the Pendulum album, HE learned how to play. He sang his own harmonies lol. The Beatles spread these tasks around fairly equally. Even Ringo averaged singing one song per album. Go listen to Marti Gras and see what happened when CCR tried that.

    • @riffraff3658
      @riffraff3658 7 месяцев назад

      Wrong

  • @johnscialfa7391
    @johnscialfa7391 Год назад +5

    Love Stu

  • @kevinbrianjohnsonmusic
    @kevinbrianjohnsonmusic 2 года назад +7

    Awesome!! Love the interviews!!

  • @paultraynorbsc627
    @paultraynorbsc627 2 года назад +4

    Excellent Interview Once again Jon 🎸🎶

  • @cridencista
    @cridencista 7 месяцев назад +4

    My definition of CCR is: a genius + a brilliant rhythm section. The 4 TOGETHER are unbeatable. They were the best Rock and Roll band in history.

  • @justinherbert9146
    @justinherbert9146 Год назад +13

    I am so happy that for the past 38 years John Fogerty has had great success as a solo artist and as a touring artist-- he wrote those classic songs but was cheated by Saul Zaentz a crook like Allen Klein -- and now John has his song rights back which he deserves -

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад

      Thanks, Justin.

    • @CFITOMAHAWK
      @CFITOMAHAWK Год назад +1

      Stu Cook (Cosmos) father was a lawyer, so the young guys gave Stu the Fantasy Record submitted contract so his lawyer father could review it. Stu said it was good and to sign it already. It was a lie. It tied John F forever with Fantasy Records and to the other guys in the band too. He lied to JF and fucked his life. A crook.
      The least talented of the band tied the most talented to him forever and to a crooked greedy manager of Fantasy Records. John later on saw that and stopped creating for the crooks and liars.

    • @justinherbert9146
      @justinherbert9146 Год назад +1

      @@CFITOMAHAWK Thank you for comment, you stated the truth.

    • @CFITOMAHAWK
      @CFITOMAHAWK Год назад

      @@justinherbert9146 Then also took John Fogerty creations which he and Fantasy Records STOLED FROM HIM, put another singer and toured for years making good money as "Credence Clearwater Revisited". Lying about what happened with the owner of the songs JF.
      The assface is a dirty dam CROOK. Same as Sam of Fantasy Records. Both are dirty pigs. It took over 20 years of litigation for JF to get his songs back from these stealing pigs. Shame on them.

    • @justinherbert9146
      @justinherbert9146 Год назад +2

      @@CFITOMAHAWK So happy for John! He handed me a guitar pic at one of his concerts and high fived me - I have never seen a performer having more fun on stage then John Fogerty - God bless John and his family!

  • @whodoneit
    @whodoneit 5 месяцев назад +1

    when was younger amused fully thank to ccr

  • @TheBeatles..
    @TheBeatles.. Год назад +6

    Its a pity how CCR ended up when you see all the wonderful things the Beatles have been doing in the last 20 or so years to continue and grow their legacy ie from Anthology to Get Back etc. Creedence deserved similar respect and a chance to live and prosper.
    Alas we have none of that for CCR but they deserved sooo much more (like maybe other bands too) but for some reason it didnt work out.
    John has continued yes, they deserved soo many more accolades ......that they will never get! Its a shame.

  • @playdohsrepublic3562
    @playdohsrepublic3562 5 месяцев назад +1

    "We were just down in the trenches trying to make those other guys look good." Thanks for the laugh, Stu. I haven't laughed that hard in a while!

  • @kentcrawford7080
    @kentcrawford7080 Год назад +3

    For decades upon decades always thoughttl..stuCook was John's brother LOL...
    This is because of the back cover of bayou county...I bought at a yard sale in anahiem calif on a saturday morning for a dime at a yard sale... 1971 a rough copy..the first lp I ever bought..lol I was 8 years old ha ha...😅I played the record till the grooves were out...😅

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад

      John did have a brother in he band, Tom Fogerty, who passed away. Bayou Country is a great choice for a first LP, Kent! Thanks for weighing in.

    • @kentcrawford7080
      @kentcrawford7080 Год назад

      @@ForBassPlayersOnly ..yea I got mixed up thinking stu was tom and tom was stu...etc...

  • @mariadia1803
    @mariadia1803 Год назад +5

    I would to see him and the drummer and John again

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад +2

      Stu and Doug (Clifford) have remained lifelong friends. Not sure how likely it is that they’ll play together again, but never know. Thanks for weighing in, Maria. 😀

  • @oscarfernandez7386
    @oscarfernandez7386 9 месяцев назад +3

    Quick question does Stu cook have a RUclips Chanel?

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  8 месяцев назад

      Not likely. Doesn’t suit his personality.

    • @oscarfernandez7386
      @oscarfernandez7386 8 месяцев назад

      @@ForBassPlayersOnly I just wanted to share some videos of me playing ccr songs on the bass

  • @hermiasvisser812
    @hermiasvisser812 День назад +1

    CCR❤

  • @johnnyneverletmedown53
    @johnnyneverletmedown53 Год назад +1

    Good man Stu, making total sense as usual. And being in my job, gotta agree with what you say about the warm up and keeping injury at bay. The lunch from your brothers old town, and Margaret RIver Cabernet with you blokes pre show are both well remembered and much enjoyed. KOC bud.

  • @Datanditto
    @Datanditto 8 месяцев назад +1

    Yes- agreed

  • @c.hundley9714
    @c.hundley9714 Год назад +2

    Every song starts with one note. Then the magic happens.

  • @kentcrawford7080
    @kentcrawford7080 Год назад +4

    Who isn't a creedence fan???

  • @glennsmith7311
    @glennsmith7311 12 дней назад

    How's Mardi Gras holding up Stu? How's the post CCR hits going? What's it like to play in a tribute band to the band you used to play in? and play John's songs? If anybody needs to understand that John didn't need any of you, just go and have a listen to when he stepped back and let you and Clifford take over. And having seen John live believe me there's no need for him to get back with you two, to do what?

  • @RobertMusilli
    @RobertMusilli 3 месяца назад +2

    He still looks good

  • @allworldmusic8270
    @allworldmusic8270 Год назад +5

    I know Stu Cook doesn't realise but Saul Zaentz scammed them too, CCR could have been like the Eagles and the Stones almost a religion but all that crap just broke up a great band.

  • @gerryorangefan6150
    @gerryorangefan6150 Год назад +8

    STU seems like a good guy

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад +2

      For sure. Stu’s a great guy! Thanks, Gerry.

    • @brianburns3872
      @brianburns3872 Год назад

      I got to play on stage with Stu…, I was very young at the time…, had heard of CCR but never thought I would have the opportunity to play with someone from the original cast members of the band…, Stuart was so humble and gracious that it blew my mind when I found out that he was on stage with me and I with him…, thanks for the memory and opportunity Brother…, much love…,
      It was at Trevino’s in El Cerrito/ Richmond on San Pablo ave back in the 80’s…, we did Proud Mary in the key of A…, I will never forget that Stu…, thank you for the opportunity to play with you budd…!!!

    • @rossparry3168
      @rossparry3168 9 месяцев назад

      Well listen or read to the John Fogerty book. He has nothing nice to say about Stu Cook. John said in court ..
      Saul Zaentz said Stu came to him and said you should sue John for old man down the road saying it’s a ripoff of run through the jungle.
      They were nothing without John.
      Fantasy ripped John for millions.

  • @purplecudda
    @purplecudda Год назад +6

    I am sorry I have a difficult time listening to Stu. What has he created on his own? What would he had gained without John??

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад

      Thanks, Brett.

    • @jeanieruter7416
      @jeanieruter7416 Год назад +2

      Stu seems like a very nice guy. So does Doug. It's a shame that John couldn't get past his own ego and reunite with them FOR THEIR FANS years ago.

    • @davidkirkham6497
      @davidkirkham6497 10 месяцев назад

      @@jeanieruter7416John wasn’t going to give these malcontent’s the lime light, again! They had 1 chance & they blew it! They know it& John knows it! Cook “cut off his nose, in spite 0f his face!”

  • @bobk2314
    @bobk2314 Год назад +9

    It's amazing to hear him speak about John especially that if wasn't for John he wouldn't be on this interview or know who he is..John Fogerty was CCR and what you guys did to him is shameful and despicable!. When you guys got a chance to write songs we all know what happened, I hope it was worth it..John Fogerty is the best too bad you weren't smart enough just to continue to ride his coat tails instead you play in a cover band but, then again you're still making a living playing John's songs...John your the best!!!!

  • @jeanieruter7416
    @jeanieruter7416 Год назад +5

    John, Doug and Stu OWE it to their fans to reunite at least ONCE. We've had to hear about their falling out and fighting for YEARS now... most of the complaining coming from John. FOR GOD'S SAKE, GROW UP and do the RIGHT thing. Sheesh.

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад +1

      Seeing them get together again would be amazing, Jeanie. Truthfully, though, I’m not sure they’re all physically (i.e., medically) up to it.

    • @jeanieruter7416
      @jeanieruter7416 Год назад +2

      @@ForBassPlayersOnly Thanks. Well, I've heard that Doug has Parkinsons, and I heard that about 3 years ago. I hope it's not true. But Doug and Stu are two really great guys and (IMO) John is a narcissistic a$$ for holding a grudge all these years. I have no interest in ever seeing him perform with his favorite sons. Only will see them if CCR is ever back together again.

    • @samekstrom7681
      @samekstrom7681 Год назад +1

      Nah just go see John

    • @davidkirkham6497
      @davidkirkham6497 10 месяцев назад

      @@jeanieruter7416well you will never see it! Anyways, your comments are tinged with jealousy & you must be a real loser, yourself!

    • @johnnyneverletmedown53
      @johnnyneverletmedown53 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@jeanieruter7416 Oh, he has other offspring! Well good golly gosh. I am sure he loves them all, just as much as the praises he hangs on the current crew. He is such an empathetic and understanding chap, old JCF.

  • @Stublinsky
    @Stublinsky 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Stu, after you helped destroy CCR, how did your solo career go ?
    However it was a nice move by John Fogerty for not condescending to play with you at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction.
    You can TAKE THAT AS A FRIEND !!!!

  • @shedbythetracks
    @shedbythetracks 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's been my experience that shredding bass players are called "unemployed"

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  6 месяцев назад +1

      So true! Well, maybe with very, very few exceptions, but overall, your point is spot on! 😂 Thanks.

  • @francescobaiz312
    @francescobaiz312 Год назад +3

    Dite e pensate quello che volete ma senza la fantastica chitarra ritmica di tom il sound dei ccr e naufragato. John fogerty non si puo discutere e stato uno dei piu grandi talenti sulla scena musicale mondiale ma senza tom stu e doug anche lui non e piu riuscito a ricreare il sound tipico dei ccr e questo e indiscutibile . Quindi anche loro tre oltre a John hanno sicuramente dei meriti.

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад

      Concordato! Grazie per il tuo commento!

    • @tom-zk6jl
      @tom-zk6jl 2 месяца назад

      Yes,that`s right! I am a Tom Fogerty fan too. He was a great misican. RiP Tom🙏

  • @jonashallberg2832
    @jonashallberg2832 2 года назад +2

    1970!

  • @whodoneit
    @whodoneit Год назад

    Whenever reband ccr sang someday never come

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад

      Not sure I understand what you’re saying, whodoneit, but thanks for checking in. 😁

  • @c.hundley9714
    @c.hundley9714 29 дней назад +1

    All kids. I appreciate all the good tunes. It happened. Move past .

  • @zorrowg16
    @zorrowg16 Год назад +1

    Jhon era l'anima dei Creedence e gli altri il contorno é stato un errore volersi paragonare a lui non essendone all'altezza!!

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад

      Stu e Doug erano sostenitori della band, non in disparte. Ad ogni modo, grazie per il commento! :)

  • @yeti2-y32
    @yeti2-y32 8 месяцев назад +7

    Revisited is a joke. They're just ripping off Fogerty.

  • @frankfischer1281
    @frankfischer1281 Год назад +5

    Sort of disappointing…..and sad.

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад

      Stu’s got no bitter feelings and John turned okay. Too bad things had to get tense. Thanks for weighing in, Frank.

  • @garyday9592
    @garyday9592 Год назад +4

    Johns solo albums have never been that good with out his Stu , Doug , Tom he never achieved higher success.

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад

      Thanks for commenting, Gary. There was definitely magic in CCR!

    • @broncobrian2344
      @broncobrian2344 8 месяцев назад

      Centerfield is my favorite Album. Blue Ridge Rangers is great . Blue Moon Swamp won a Grammy

    • @TheRealEstateNate
      @TheRealEstateNate 7 месяцев назад +1

      John had better success then they did! Proof, on the last album the only hits were the ones that John sang. TRUTH

    • @playdohsrepublic3562
      @playdohsrepublic3562 5 месяцев назад +1

      Gary, I agree. And I love me some John Fogerty. I feel I should be "loyal" to John, I do believe he did a lot of the harder work. But I just prefer John Fogerty with his peeps. Being in a band with your brother....too cool. They ALL made mistakes, really.

  • @maxjerryhorowitz4710
    @maxjerryhorowitz4710 Год назад +23

    Take this guy and the drummer out of the band and it's still Creedence. Take John Fogerty out of the band and it's not Creedence. The proof of this is the Revisited band this guy and the drummer made, nobody came to see them play. Fogerty is Creedence Clearwater Revival.

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад +5

      Good points, Max. I (Jon) did see the Revisited band and they were quite good. It’s true, though, that Fogerty was the major force behind CCR. Thanks for commenting.

    • @andrealavezzini6094
      @andrealavezzini6094 7 месяцев назад

      What the hell are you talking about??!!... John was the top, ok, but the sound of those bass lines were so unique and the drums as well.
      What a stupid comment!

    • @playdohsrepublic3562
      @playdohsrepublic3562 5 месяцев назад +1

      I love John Fogerty, but CCR is the 4 original guys only. John Fogerty was great on his own, for sure, but never the same. The original guys back up singing for John was never done better by others, even when John did his own back up. LOVE Tom, Stu, Doug, and John as CCR. The rest is peripheral.

    • @stephentyree9296
      @stephentyree9296 4 месяца назад

      Stu’s bass playing is unlike anyone else though. I’ve been a bassist for nearly 20 years and his composition is top of the line. Sure, this style has been duplicated many times, but his original bass lines are absolutely iconic. Imagine Have You Ever Seen the Rain without Stu’s melodic bass lines.

    • @bid84
      @bid84 Месяц назад

      Yawn… how come John couldn’t replicate the magic without the guys? Fogertys solo stuff is average at best.

  • @gilbertadler3949
    @gilbertadler3949 Год назад +6

    John was carrying you guys and you guys and you guys still weren't satisfied no respect

  • @brianlancaster7463
    @brianlancaster7463 4 месяца назад +1

    Still riding on John Fogerty's songs. Chump

  • @plungerrecords1270
    @plungerrecords1270 3 месяца назад

    He’s aged well, what happened to his trademark mustache? I always thought Stu was a cool guy.

  • @samekstrom7681
    @samekstrom7681 Год назад +6

    Not a Stu fan. He committed band arson. Read some Creedance books if you don't believe me. You couldn't pay me to go see this guy play. If you want CCR go see John.

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад

      At least we have all those great records! Thanks for the comment, Sam.

    • @johnnyneverletmedown53
      @johnnyneverletmedown53 9 месяцев назад

      Says someone who can't spell Creedence. Who has "read some Creedance books". Good on you champ who knows nothing.

    • @playdohsrepublic3562
      @playdohsrepublic3562 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@johnnyneverletmedown53 To be fair your grammar is quite bad.

    • @johnnyneverletmedown53
      @johnnyneverletmedown53 5 месяцев назад

      From someone who is obviously ESL​@@playdohsrepublic3562

  • @peterladetto708
    @peterladetto708 Год назад +4

    Dude makes no sense

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  Год назад +2

      There are always two sides to every story. Who knows what really went on? Thanks for weighing in, Peter. I hope you still enjoyed the interview. 😁

    • @peterladetto708
      @peterladetto708 Год назад

      @@ForBassPlayersOnly
      Yeah I'm actually just talking about the idea that you need to read sheet music to be a good musician that's of course absurd as none of the great musicals in popular cultural history could read music.
      As far as the truth about the history of CCR I know that perhaps John could have probably been a better leader however his writing spoke for itself and when he did succeed leadership in the songwriting department the results were poor.
      What really upsets me is how the band double crossed him and sold out to the record company behind his back.
      Its John's fault as the leader of the band for leaving the initial contract assessment to be handled by Stu, who it seems with his father, made a bad deal for the band that he probably benefited from..
      It would have been very journalistic of you to address that here but we all have our motives.
      Good day.

    • @baphometfathom5348
      @baphometfathom5348 Год назад +5

      @@peterladetto708 very true they shafted John and try to play it off like nothing happened, then thanked fantasy records at their ror hof induction despicable

    • @CFITOMAHAWK
      @CFITOMAHAWK Год назад +1

      @@peterladetto708 Wrong. John was not perfect. Neither you. But was all CCR.
      Stu Cook (Cosmos) father was a lawyer, so the young guys gave Stu the Fantasy Record submitted contract so his lawyer father could review it. Stu said it was good and to sign it already. It was a lie. It tied John F forever with Fantasy Records and to the other guys in the band too. He lied to JF and fucked his life. A crook.
      The least talented of the band tied the most talented to him forever and to a crooked greedy manager of Fantasy Records. John later on saw that and stopped creating for the crooks and liars.

    • @davidkirkham6497
      @davidkirkham6497 Год назад +2

      This makes no sense with regards to what was stated about Tom Fogerty leaving the band! According to John, he did relent & allow Tom to contribute songs & sing songs. However, a few months later Tom just up & quit completely! I personally believe, Tom Fogerty finally realized he could never measure up to his younger Brother, John’s, songwriting! I also believe Tom wanted John to help him with songwriting & producing Tom’s songs. The proof is, Tom Fogerty’s songs he wrote & sung after he left Creedence Clearwater Revival were not well received by the public in general & almost all were weak as compared to John Fogerty compositions!

  • @toddnilsson5664
    @toddnilsson5664 6 месяцев назад +1

    Clifford and Cook have no shame.
    John Fogerty rates with Lennon, McCartney, Carol King and Harry Nilsson as the best songwriters of that era.
    These two clowns got stupid by thinking that they had the same kind of talent as John.
    The fact is John was in a magical songwriting zone for 3 or 4 years and these guys went for a magic carpet ride and obviously felt entitled.
    Their greedy egos allowed them to be scavengers with no self respect.
    Johns music was manipulated away from him, I can't blame him for bad feelings, as musicians, they're a joke

    • @ForBassPlayersOnly
      @ForBassPlayersOnly  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for weighing in, Todd.

    • @playdohsrepublic3562
      @playdohsrepublic3562 5 месяцев назад

      Don't be childish. Clearly as musicians Clifford and Cook are not jokes. If they got tired of winning then they had a right to "sell their vote" and leave. John didn't get tired of winning. What bothers me is when they both blame John for bad business decisions. As if they weren't relatively grown men and could chime in and have a say. They have both blamed John for the Saul Zaentz (sp?) contract gone bad as if they weren't capable of reading that contract and saying no. IT TAKES ALL FOUR TO MAKE CCR THE WAY THEY WERE. None of them, even John, are quite as good without that particular dynamic. Tom, Stu, and Doug should never be discounted as valuable members of that band...no matter how tempting it is to do so. I don't think any of these guys really want to bad mouth each other. I notice the interviewer is usually the one who pokes those issues.