V-Strom 650 is OUT | Himalayan 450 is IN

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  • Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
  • Hello,
    After much deliberation for months I have finally come to the decision to replace my Suzuki V-Strom 650 with the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450. I explain as to how and why I have arrived at this decision.
    Cheers!
    #bigbearbangalore #himalayan450 #vstrom650xt #royalenfield #suzukimotorcycles

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  • @9973joe
    @9973joe 11 месяцев назад +65

    As we age gracefully, our options narrow done to ease , practicality, lesser flamboyance , minimal headache - personal perspective though!

  • @savvy7953
    @savvy7953 11 месяцев назад +63

    This is the Actual Channel where you genuinely can learn 👍

  • @shyamg28
    @shyamg28 11 месяцев назад +19

    A man's evolution from riding behemoths to the current 450 Himalayan, well articulated, between two friends. Makes for great content, but even better, makes for education & learning. Thanks CK & Bosky!

  • @herethereandelsewhere1941
    @herethereandelsewhere1941 11 месяцев назад +31

    Definitely right choice, thinking of doing the same!
    Fed up with heavy and powerful bikes that I use only at 50% of their potential.
    Really waiting restlessly for the Himalayan to arrive in Europe to test it!
    Warm greetings from Romania by the way!
    Ride long, Ride safe! ✌✌✌

    • @abhinashkumar3161
      @abhinashkumar3161 11 месяцев назад +1

      U gonna love it's suspension

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад +2

      Many thanks. Hope the H450 arrives there soon. Cheers!

  • @travelfanatic9124
    @travelfanatic9124 11 месяцев назад +34

    No youtuber or vlogger has such a matured content❤❤❤

  • @coffee_on_iv
    @coffee_on_iv 11 месяцев назад +62

    Bosski and CK, gotta appreciate that backdrop. It's amazing.

    • @vikramwadhwani6174
      @vikramwadhwani6174 11 месяцев назад +2

      Would love to know where this place is.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад +17

      River Valley View Homestay Mukkodlu

    • @senthurbalaji
      @senthurbalaji 11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for sharing the location!

    • @KTDA79
      @KTDA79 11 месяцев назад

      @@bigbearbangalorethanks for sharing..

    • @vinodpatangay7881
      @vinodpatangay7881 11 месяцев назад

      Thinking of Replacing My Inti 650 with Himi 450 !

  • @EzMeck
    @EzMeck 11 месяцев назад +8

    Coming up next in 5 years......... Why the Activa 10G is replacing my HIMALAYAN 450.
    Very practical video by the way! Enjoyed watching it.

  • @krishnendudas7537
    @krishnendudas7537 11 месяцев назад +13

    Thank you sir!! Atleast there are some people,who are practical enough to choose the right Motorcycle and actually guide a lot of Motorcycle enthusiasts to know how its difficult to maintain a big machine when you can spend the budget in goid riding gears and for Touring Itself ❤...

  • @manusarma
    @manusarma 11 месяцев назад +4

    I'm in my 30s now and I have had the pulsar 220 in 2008, then classic 500, then the bs3 Himalayan on 2016, ninja 250 and now a Ducati scrambler. I'm just entering the expensive middle weight segment and I'm hoping to go full circle and come back to singles after 20 years, very gracefully like you :). Thanks for sharing your story and experiences, both of you! Cheers ! 🥂

  • @lgferreira5913
    @lgferreira5913 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you 🤩
    Good motorcicle himalyan 452cc ❤
    Gustavo 🇧🇷 😉👍

  • @spyder3112
    @spyder3112 11 месяцев назад +8

    You were one of the reputed folks I reached out to before I made my VStrom purchase decision!! It has been an amazing journey , but like you said the cost of ownership is something that has to be taken into consideration. But as a person with a passion for motorcycles I would not want to miss out on the various "flavors" of the trade! Looking forward to seeing more from you and CK!

  • @NeerajSalaria_FreeSoul
    @NeerajSalaria_FreeSoul 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for simplifying it so well !!! Love your content 😍🙂👍

  • @SunilshanbhoghBiker
    @SunilshanbhoghBiker 11 месяцев назад +2

    Bosski and CK you both are the perfect pair to analyze the bike with the brain then the heart. Thank you Big Bear Bangalore for the content. Now I am confused about selling out my interceptor. 650.

  • @SyedMunavarAli
    @SyedMunavarAli 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hi, Folks. I have been following your channel for quiet some time, you guys rock! Well, i will be completing my 59 years in this prithvi soon and i too want "Ease, Practicality, Minimal headache (maintenance issues) & Lesser flamboyance". Till now i have been a car guy, been there + done that. My first car was in 2001, a Ford iKON 1.8 D (anyone recalls that model?). It was a damn good car, smooth, fast and fun to drive. Gave excellent mileage too, with a tank full of diesel, i could drive to Tiruchy from Chennai and be back too. A full tank of diesel cost me around Rs.680, definitely less than Rs.700. Those were the days! I had one Yamaha RX135 too in my garage at that time. Boy! Should i even talk about the excellency of that motorcycle? Guess not. Well, to cut a long story short, now i want to go back to motorcycling again. And i am strictly a Highway Man. Having not ridden a motorcycle for the past 22 years, after checking out almost all the motorcycles available in the Indian market now, i have finally narrowed down my choice to 2, Suzuki Vstrom SX 250 & Honda CB 300F. But Vstrom is kind of too flamboyant for my style and am seriously thinking about purchasing Honda CB 300F. "Ease, Practicality, Minimal headache (maintenance issues) & Lesser flamboyance) being my check boxes to be ticked. Honda CB 300F, in my opinion, ticks all the boxes right. Any suggestions? If you have read my message fully, i thank you for your patience. Namaskara.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for sharing.
      Guess you've already made your choice. Best wishes. 🙏

  • @roysyntageros4191
    @roysyntageros4191 9 месяцев назад +2

    Just subscribed! Thank you for your thoughts. I recently (4 months ago) sold my 2020 Vstrom 650XT and bought a KTM 390 Adventure SW. I often think I made a mistake selling the Vstrom but the weight difference is a big plus for me at 62yrs of age. I wanted a little bit more off road capability than the Vstrom as I always felt it was very heavy for me. Problem is I find the KTM very high and it vibrates a lot at higher speeds. Perhaps I might go test ride a RE Himalayan 450 when they arrive in Australia 😊

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  9 месяцев назад +1

      Welcome aboard! 👍

    • @Mario1958ful
      @Mario1958ful 28 дней назад +1

      Ho 67 anni ho venduto la mia kava 900 rs perche le strade sono sempre piu rovinate, ho comperato una vstrom 650 dl mi trovo benissimo ho avuto molte moto ma questa e' quasi perfetta per i miei gusti manca solo un po di cv ma con i nuovi limiti di velocita forse e' meglio cosi effettivamente passare i 200 km ora in strada non ha senso

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  28 дней назад

      Great to hear. Enjoy your motorcycling.

  • @hotice31
    @hotice31 11 месяцев назад +5

    Hell, I want a 650 cc bike.
    Nothing can convince me to change my decision.
    But then, that’s what love for a large motorcycle is. Isn’t it?
    But great logical analysis.

    • @anaythefuzz
      @anaythefuzz 11 месяцев назад +2

      even i feel the same. i have ridden a versys 650 for the last 3 years now and I cant imagine trading it for a smaller motorcycle. heck I just want it to get bigger.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад +2

      Enjoy your 650cc. To each their own. Cheers!
      And just because I gave away my larger CC motorcycles, it doesn't mean I don't love them.

    • @anaythefuzz
      @anaythefuzz 11 месяцев назад

      @@bigbearbangalore loving every moment on it. Cheers!

  • @TheSportyExplorer
    @TheSportyExplorer 11 месяцев назад +6

    Logically and practically 90-120kmph is the most for Indian roads and that’s where this Himalayan vibrates . That’s the only drawback I heard of this almost perfect bike

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад +8

      Well, that's what you've heard. I have rhe H450 and that isn't a drawback. I barely notice it.

    • @Rahul-kp6wn
      @Rahul-kp6wn 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@bigbearbangaloreagree as H450 owner no vibes of barely notice

  • @Gurman01
    @Gurman01 10 месяцев назад +1

    First time watching here, left with a big smile, thank you an enjoyable video

  • @anjalivartak4797
    @anjalivartak4797 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hey Bosky,
    Such a carefully thought out decision. Every rider develops an "attachment" /"connection" with their machine. Time/circumstances influence our choices more often than not. I personally do feel that any machine upto 500cc is more than decent for our existing road & traffic conditions. Another point is serviceability of your machine & availability of spares. If the plan is to ride across the length & breath of the country, all terrains, then one definately needs their machine to be reliable & serviceable. Sensible decision. Ride safe & tc!

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад +1

      Many thanks. To each their choice. There is no right or wrong. 👍🙏

  • @kseth6992
    @kseth6992 11 месяцев назад +1

    The same thought has entered my mind about replacing my GS 1200 Rallye , but with the next iteration of the Himalayan … ( tubeless spokes + other improvements ) .

  • @sudhism1402
    @sudhism1402 11 месяцев назад +1

    Poppy blue is the best color scheme for my eyes too 😍(which I had booked & cancelled later) & the accessories are elevating its style👍

  • @alanpestell8657
    @alanpestell8657 10 месяцев назад

    Well reasoned argument has helped me decide what my next bike may well be. Much Love to you two guys, Bosky and CK, the greatest double act since Del and Rodney!

  • @crispinleslie
    @crispinleslie 11 месяцев назад

    I very much enjoyed listening to you two gentlemen debate and discuss two real world bikes.

  • @vishravarsr7794
    @vishravarsr7794 10 месяцев назад

    When it comes to replacing, I am not even able to convince myself to replace my Himalayan BS3 'the lorry'. The only reason is it does certain things very well that I care about, including the pocket friendliness. Now I feel I can test drive 450. Kudos to this vlog.

  • @srk1200
    @srk1200 11 месяцев назад +2

    Very prudent decision. Wishing you a wonderful ownership. I am also tempted to buy one but since most of my touring is 2-up fully loaded on 1200cc not sure how much of a compromise I have to make. But being on the other side of 50 now, heavier bikes do become a liability in many situations....
    But this Himalayan being so good...in another 2 years will we be seeing everybody and their neighbour riding a Himalayan 450...it becomes the National Motorcycle of India!😄

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks. Yes, it's about evolution of one's riding.

  • @krisachar
    @krisachar 11 месяцев назад +10

    Beautiful location and great videography.❤

  • @MototechWanderer
    @MototechWanderer 11 месяцев назад

    Not questioning your decision, but few pointers :
    1. EBC Brake Pads = 4k a set
    2. Tyres MRF : 9.5k a set
    3. Air filter replaced every 18k kms and cleaned every 6k kms.
    4. Chain going strong at 30k kms on odo
    5. 2.7 litres of fully synthetic oil replaced every 6k kms.
    6. Bought my Vstrom for 8.25L on road.
    216 kgs vs 196 kgs, neither are light, so happily living with my lovely Vstrom 650. Happily did Zanskar & Umlingla on my 2020 Vstrom 659. To conclude, to everyone, there own. Cheers 😊

  • @Ripley6867
    @Ripley6867 11 месяцев назад +2

    Same same here. But I am still waiting for the Himalayan to arrive in europe as many others with much anticipation 😊

  • @gauravbhandari732
    @gauravbhandari732 10 месяцев назад +1

    I know you’re more into adventure / touring bikes, but would love to hear your take on smaller yet bit premium bikes for daily commuting? Likes of Honda cb300f, Yamaha mt 15, NS250, Gixxer 250 and more.
    Aaaaand while we’re at it, can you also review electric scooters like Aether, Chetak, Ola and the likes 😂
    We know we can watch N-number of other videos but would love to hear your take and have some fun along the buying journey 😅

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, correct. And will check on this possibility. Thanks & regards. 😊🙏

  • @shivnarayan7164
    @shivnarayan7164 11 месяцев назад +2

    Kudos and good job as always!! Bosky, CK and the mysterious camera man

  • @ssandeep2687
    @ssandeep2687 11 месяцев назад +2

    Appreciate your rational and practical choice boski and sharing those words of wisdom and experience with us all. 🙌🏼 But yet, as riders and enthusiasts where most move by feeling and excitement. On a casual note ಯಾವದಾದ್ರೂ ಇರಲಿ, ಎಷ್ಟಿದ್ರೂ ಸಾಕು ಅಂತ ಅನ್ಸಲ್ಲ, ಅಲ್ವಾ .😊

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks.
      Yes!
      Yeh dil maange more! 😊

    • @ssandeep2687
      @ssandeep2687 11 месяцев назад

      @@bigbearbangalore hahahah yussss!!! Thank you for reciprocating boski! Cheeevers!

  • @velroyfernandes5896
    @velroyfernandes5896 22 дня назад +1

    This is the content we need🎉

  • @Robert-ui4dc
    @Robert-ui4dc 7 месяцев назад

    Zrobiłem dokładnie to samo . Miałem 10 lat VStroma 650, ale po przejechaniu się na Himalayanie podjąłem decyzję o zmianie. Jestem zachwycony możliwościami tego motocykla. Prawdziwy "Jeep" wśród motocykli. Pozdrawiam z Polski.

  • @shafiqueansari3117
    @shafiqueansari3117 10 месяцев назад

    It's always a pleasure to hear both of u for hours and hours,it's logical knowledge sharing with us,thanks guru

  • @RameshPula
    @RameshPula 11 месяцев назад +1

    The exact thoughts that gone through before purchasing my first adventure bike. Happy with my choice.

  • @TheFloatingWorld999
    @TheFloatingWorld999 11 месяцев назад

    Loved it, very practical and well thought out points! 😊
    Thanks for making my doubts vanish forever ♾️

  • @7rahe13
    @7rahe13 11 месяцев назад +1

    Respect your decision sir. I am a proud V Strom 650 owner myself and I agree with your “functional” assessment of the motorcycle. I own a Mojo along with the Suzuki and the reason why I bought the Suzuki was to have a different “experience”. Each motorcycle comes with its unique character and comparing only the functional aspects while making a decision would only be half of the story. So, for me, I would cherish the diversity of experience over the functionality alone. The Himalayan is a great motorcycle and may even be more functional than the V Strom, but it wont even come close to match the charisma of the V twin motor and the Suzuki’s riding experience. Just my 2 cents sir, but all the best to your future rides on the RE and Triumph. Long live the V Strom.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the comment and agree. And each of our motorcycling evolves differently and the needs and wants change. There is no right or wrong rather an individual choice. Thanks.

  • @thisisDway
    @thisisDway 11 месяцев назад +1

    Makes a lot of sense…tats how am thinking right now for my 3rd motorcycle….decisions are being made with head now…when we choose with heart the bikes using us instead of us using the motorcycle

  • @vishalamle8330
    @vishalamle8330 10 месяцев назад

    Such a matured and well thought points you shared…!!!
    It is always pleasure to watch your videos..!!!!
    Happy riding Sir..!!! 🏍️
    And keep sharing your valuable knowledge…!!!!

  • @PBKB
    @PBKB 7 месяцев назад

    Excelent video. Crazy thing is in Denmark where I am from they cost almost the same. 80K for the Vstrong and 70K DKR for the Himalayan. I will go with the vstrom I feel.

  • @tusharkumaresan1805
    @tusharkumaresan1805 11 месяцев назад

    Agree 💯 with you. Faced the same with TRK 502X, so switched to 450. Oh boy! Didn't know what fun I was missing out on. Again, no bike is perfect😊

  • @passionandcommonsense
    @passionandcommonsense 11 месяцев назад +4

    The Himalayan 450 also is a heavy motorcycle. The 196kg kerb weight that they publish is with 90% fuel. With a full tank the motorcycle is easily 200 plus kgs. For a single that is heavy. The power to weight ratio makes little sense. If you wanted a lighter and easier to handle motorcycle then the 390 Adv is the way to go. It is 20kgs lighter than the Himalayan 450. Handles superbly. Only issue is the buzzy feeling on the bars, pegs and seat. But then the Himalayan 450 isn’t winning any awards in the refinement department either.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад +6

      Agree and I like the H450 more than the 390A.

    • @CowKora
      @CowKora 11 месяцев назад

      Factually even with 100% full tank the bike will weigh 196+ 1.2. Am not counting in the accessories weight. Cheers

    • @passionandcommonsense
      @passionandcommonsense 11 месяцев назад

      @@CowKora that’s somehow hard to believe. Because if the bike weighed less than 200 kgs fully laden with fuel, then RE’s marketing team would be plastering that aspect across the entire planet. But they aren’t doing that. Instead they say 196 kgs and then put a caveat of 90% fuel. Why?
      Every motorcycle out there publishes kerb weight fully laden with fuel and fluids. RE knows that this one aspect is critical and that people will be looking for it. So they found a brilliant way to shape the narrative by saying 196kgs; and then tacking on the “with 90% fuel” to give themselves room for defense.
      Also if the motorcycle is truly light, then we would have heard everyone say that in the reviews. And no one has done that so far. In fact I have heard multiple people say that the Himalayan 450 is heavy. Maybe not as heavy as its siblings; but it certainly hasn’t been praised as a light motorcycle.
      (Compare that to the reviews of say the Honda Transalp (different segment I know); which has a published kerb weight of 208 kgs; and every reviewer mentions how light it feels. I myself test rode it and was blown away with the light weight on a 755cc bike)

    • @twowheeledparadox
      @twowheeledparadox 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@passionandcommonsense 90 percent of this bike's fuel capacity is 15.3 litres. That is just 1.7 litres of fuel that they are not counting and it's only 1.2 to 1.3 kg.

    • @passionandcommonsense
      @passionandcommonsense 11 месяцев назад

      @@twowheeledparadox that’s being too literal about it. All I know is that if the bike weighed less than 200kgs fully laden with all fluids, then RE would have made sure to drill that fact into all of our brains. The fact that they haven’t done that makes me think that this bike is easily over 200kgs kerb weight.
      The only way to know for sure is for someone to weigh a stock bike fully laden with fuel.

  • @JH09SUMIT
    @JH09SUMIT 11 месяцев назад +3

    What a gorgeous location

  • @tankachen
    @tankachen 10 месяцев назад

    Very good and mature choice in my view. I had gone up in cc and bhp up to a 330kg 1400 GTR with 150 or so BHP; then realized I was never using quite a few of these horses, so I changed it for an 230kg Africa Twin 1000 of "only" 95bhp in 2016. Now I am seriously considering the Himalayan 450. I liked the 411, but it was too underpowered. I think the Himalayan 450 offers an excellent fun/usability/budget mix.

  • @sandeepmenon2840
    @sandeepmenon2840 11 месяцев назад

    My thoughts exactly!! As someone who's owned a bunch of "big bikes", I can't agree more...

  • @kumaril05
    @kumaril05 11 месяцев назад

    I was just looking at that gorgeous background wallpaper, absolutely beautiful place ♥♥♥♥

  • @wondersmee
    @wondersmee 11 месяцев назад +1

    The way he calls you Bosski, its kinda cute to hear. 😊

  • @jay-vo7rx
    @jay-vo7rx 9 месяцев назад

    beautiful back ground, fantastic honest insights, 2 great mates. Killer content

  • @abhishekkalkatte7036
    @abhishekkalkatte7036 11 месяцев назад

    It’s absolutely practical decision! I think when you are young and handle the higher power and weight it’s good to own a higher power bike ! Once you can’t handle it anymore moving to what suits is right! It’s always a personal choice 👍🏻

  • @karthikdoraiswamy8921
    @karthikdoraiswamy8921 11 месяцев назад +1

    Your thoughts male sense, while i do have a couple of retro 1200s in the garrage and a 950 adv, I have been having this lingering though about replacing the 950 with the 452 Himalayan purely for all the resons you mentioned.. the retros will stay but for everything else, I will get the himi!!

  • @nishantnanda8404
    @nishantnanda8404 11 месяцев назад

    Your channel was very instrumental in getting my v strom 650. Its been almost 2 year and i have enjoyed it. Thanks for your honest opinion.
    Bosky sir, did you do someting to the front suspension of v strom ? I put in a heavier fork oil and there has been a significant improvement

  • @AhWeNahSshhh
    @AhWeNahSshhh 11 месяцев назад

    I watched the video intently, everything made complete sense and now I’m contemplating life.

  • @chakria3077
    @chakria3077 11 месяцев назад

    Nicely put.
    I've had Enfield for more than a decade. Still have it.
    Even rode previous version of Himalayan. Recently did 3500 kms ride on my Vstorm 650 with Himalayan 452 alongside. Few thoughts:
    - Yes new Himalayan does extremely well on tarmac. But the legacy power lag still there.
    - Royal Enfield is easily serviceable motorcycle in India. But the quality of service is always questionable.
    - Quality of products. You ride any non-RE and comeback to RE, difference of product and ride quality is clear.
    - But can't deny on your pricing part. But for every premium bike, there are quality alternative spares. You don't always need to buy company products. Research matters.
    Yes, enfield spares and service is affordable. Quality comes with a price tag.
    Having said all that, I am a Vstorm fan boy with immense love for RE for its outreach in India.
    I almost bought one new Himalayan. But for a 6'2" 95+ guy, this one seems little lesser.
    Again personal preferences.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for sharing.
      And yes it's a personal preference.

    • @chakria3077
      @chakria3077 11 месяцев назад

      Having said all that, I like the way you kept it simple in layman terms.

  • @adventuresofanartist2265
    @adventuresofanartist2265 11 месяцев назад +1

    A lot respect to both you guys
    But genuine question how do you guys spend money on the bike, like what factors that it is a good buy or a investment (let it be costly or cheap)?

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks.
      I invest in accessories that I feel that adds comfort and or security for the ride and experience. Some are premium and some are budget. Utility comes first and price next.

  • @madhupatel.u.m6119
    @madhupatel.u.m6119 11 месяцев назад

    Although, this video is completely from your perspective as an experienced rider. But👌 explanation point by point...eveything mentioned here makes sense for an experienced rider who had all sort of fun in mid and heavy bikes. Thanks for your ellabroate discussion. I get to know about lot of pros and cons in this talk👍 I appreciate and agree with your decision.
    I think you left a "hula" into CK's head. I guess, he might come up with a same decision in few days 😂 Let me see... 👍

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you liked it.
      And yes, CK is dealing with a hula now! 😃

  • @RaghunandanBagare
    @RaghunandanBagare 10 месяцев назад

    Sir,
    1) Why Scrambler400 and Himalayan450 together?
    2) Which helmet do you recommend for touring considering the budget? I have MT Thunder 3 model but I get a noise even after following your advice of keeping cotton while riding.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  10 месяцев назад +1

      Why together? Because many are comparing them hence shared our thoughts on the different purpose and use of each in this video.
      Use more cotton! Or use motorcycle earplugs.

  • @melmanoi2788
    @melmanoi2788 11 месяцев назад +1

    Although it does make sense specially with the kind of single cylinder advs that are coming up, but its really sad to see engineering masterpeices like v strom 650 fade away, nothing beats a v-twin 🥲

  • @Bala.the.Baldie
    @Bala.the.Baldie 11 месяцев назад +8

    What are your thoughts on Honda NX500?

  • @gopalakrishnanrajashekar3521
    @gopalakrishnanrajashekar3521 11 месяцев назад

    White and blue Vstrom 650 guy waiting for a kamet white delivery. I know that the h.452 will do 100% of what I do with the V650 without having ridden one. The India cost of spares is certainly tear inducing. I kind of agree with your analysis, while thinking of the hima as a +1 bike, for now at any rate
    You did leave one question unasked/ open, which bike would a h.452 owner rider want after a while and getting really familiar - from the ones we can (reasonably easily) buy and register here.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад +1

      Best wishes on the Kamet.
      I don't know what's next. Too early to say. Foe rhe moment I have the 450 and the 400X. It's a balanced garage.

  • @maneckkatrak1379
    @maneckkatrak1379 11 месяцев назад +1

    Full respect to your personal decision, but also it is a pity that the Suzuki is being released...
    Especially when you have the lighter T400x scrambler in your garage.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      The H450 & 400X is a good combo in the garage.

  • @RevsAndWheels
    @RevsAndWheels 11 месяцев назад +2

    Friendship goals ❤😊

  • @journeysman
    @journeysman 10 месяцев назад

    super chat guys....loving the banter !! @CK does X440 "still" figure into the narrative keeping in mind the very same logics discussed in this video. would love to know your ruminations on this ☺

  • @JagannathMoorthy
    @JagannathMoorthy 11 месяцев назад

    Actually it was your initial videos on the Himalayan that acted as a trigger for me to sell my VStrom. It was a motorcycle that I never connected with and the reasons were quite similar. I also realised that a lot of people will be thinking along the same lines and hence the big bikes will become an even tougher sell in the future, so off it went.

  • @akhiljoseph8360
    @akhiljoseph8360 11 месяцев назад +1

    You guys enjoyed all bikes, and now may be thinking about retirement settling (nb. not quitting). I think I am not the right audience😅. Youths like me just started, thinking big, dreaming about my Africa Twin🫣.

    • @akhiljoseph8360
      @akhiljoseph8360 11 месяцев назад

      Adding, at this stage I need to listen to my heart ❤️

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      Enjoy the AT. Cheers!

  • @saikatduttachowdhury535
    @saikatduttachowdhury535 11 месяцев назад

    Nice discussion and almost exactly similar to my thoughts. Almost because I will replace Himalayan with Xpulse 2004v. Reason all same except that for me highway speed of 80 is more than sufficient.

  • @aroncarlsapru6522
    @aroncarlsapru6522 11 месяцев назад

    Have traveled extensively on my RX 135, never a problem, chose the Suzuki V Storm 250 perfect replacement.

  • @9441602572
    @9441602572 19 дней назад

    I'm getting a second hand 2022 model Suzuki vstrom 650xt for 5.2 lakh rs, 26,000 km ridden loaded with some accessories and my budget is also near around 5 lakh .
    Should I go for Vstrom or wait for 1 year or few more months for new bikes to get launched.
    Sir pls suggest.

  • @harikrishnancm8359
    @harikrishnancm8359 11 месяцев назад +1

    Booked Himalayan 452 on last week of December and now waiting for Him...😇

    • @Sagar-sag-rx
      @Sagar-sag-rx 11 месяцев назад

      And you will regret about it 😅

    • @harikrishnancm8359
      @harikrishnancm8359 11 месяцев назад

      @@Sagar-sag-rx y ?

    • @Sagar-sag-rx
      @Sagar-sag-rx 11 месяцев назад

      @@harikrishnancm8359 RE motorcycles are not reliable, am an mechanical Engg and I visited RE plant at Chennai. Poor built quality

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      Congrats

  • @ANJANBRAO
    @ANJANBRAO 11 месяцев назад +105

    Hero splendor plus is best for all and everything.....😂

    • @milanswarnim
      @milanswarnim 11 месяцев назад +3

      Thats our life

    • @user-tns1986
      @user-tns1986 11 месяцев назад +7

      75-90 all day crusing with 55+kmpl

    • @vikramwadhwani6174
      @vikramwadhwani6174 11 месяцев назад +4

      Or Bajaj CT110 😊❤my current bike........

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад +47

      All and everything is a bit of an exaggeration. 😊

    • @ANJANBRAO
      @ANJANBRAO 11 месяцев назад +2

      More people are thinking splendor plus is the best bike.....😊

  • @mauulik
    @mauulik 11 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing videos guys, and what a beautiful setting. I really need your advice for Honda CB350 & RE Hunter 350.
    Boski & Ck produce excellent content for Indian bikes, wishing you all the very best to get to milllion subscribers soon

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks.
      More Commuting = Hunter
      More Touring = CB350

  • @giridhars4821
    @giridhars4821 11 месяцев назад +1

    By the same parameters, V-Strom 250 SX is a better choice than Himalayan 450. My riding buddy goes everywhere with it. Japanese engine far better than RE in terms of top-end,even low-end, refinement, touring, bad roads, far cheaper maintenance etc.. Only thing it wont be that good, is in proper off-roading. Though many have taken it to Spiti, Ladakh etc.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      Yes. Why not. Whether the 250sx is better or not is debatable. In my opinion the H450 has a better engine, better suspension. But that doesn't matter. To each their own.

  • @dineshkannan410
    @dineshkannan410 11 месяцев назад

    I already owning an interceptor 650 for last 5 years. Now I’m seriously looking at xpulse 200 4v pro. I am attracted towards it by the light weight and suspension of xpluse. Am I also thinking with a heart instead of a head?

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      Heart over head is ok. 😊 Ensure that you take test rides to know well if the Xp can replace most of what you've been doing on the 650.
      They are significantly different.

  • @suhasbharadwaj3645
    @suhasbharadwaj3645 11 месяцев назад +2

    Boski, this seems like trend among motorcyclists. Most start with a smaller bike, upgrade all the way to a liter class or more and then slowly come back to 250 - 400 cc and settle.

    • @Terminator-to3lp
      @Terminator-to3lp 11 месяцев назад

      Exactly because till that time they learn what they lost😊😊

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      😊🙌

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      I would say what was lost! It's evolution. Appropriate things at appropriate time.

  • @motechRevolution
    @motechRevolution 11 месяцев назад

    Ok, I owned the first Himalayan, I also own a superb Vstrom. Both are fantastic for certain situations, from all the videos of Indian roads I have seen, The new Himalayan will be perfect. In Europe we would need 2 bikes, especially for touring here in Spain. The new Himalayan would be short in many departments ,2 up touring with luggage (Here in Europe ) and highway riding. So here's the kicker, the Vstrom 2 up is sufficient, but for long term 2 up touring, again it lacks a few ponies. It's horses for courses. Enjoy your riding

  • @TheFloatingWorld999
    @TheFloatingWorld999 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nice T Shirt sir! ❤
    Love that mandala art, where can i get one??

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks. That's from the Himalayan Odyssey 2023.

  • @VeereshVishwakarma600gt
    @VeereshVishwakarma600gt 11 месяцев назад +1

    I agree that, i own TNT600GT, these bikes are heavy and we can't enjoy twisties and we surely feel the weight and yes parking space we need to be extra cautious, to be frank any bikes abobe 500cc multiple cylinders in India is not worth, we can't enjoy at full potential and yes these bikes are expensive to maintain as well. I agree with each and every point, i am also thinking to downgrade to Himalayan or Aprilia rs457.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for sharing. And let's not refer to it as a "downgrade". 😊

  • @tuanoful
    @tuanoful 5 месяцев назад

    I am a previous VSTROM owner, the 650xt. Had an accident and I am now, 2 years later, looking to get back on the saddle. The vstrom here, where I live, is TWICE THE COST OF THE HIMALAYAN!!!! insane.
    They made the decision for me

  • @championgamerz7490
    @championgamerz7490 10 месяцев назад

    Hey I have taken test ride of Honda Hness and really loved it . But I’m sceptical abt it’s sales as I don’t see much of those on roads. What’s ur take on the 350cc lineup of Honda?

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  10 месяцев назад +1

      It's a Honda. Can't go wrong with a Honda.

  • @miguelangar
    @miguelangar 10 месяцев назад

    Great video! Greetings from Colombia! One doubt: If you have to choose between the Himalayan 450 and the Triumph scrambler 400 ..which one would you choose?

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  10 месяцев назад

      Greetings.
      Himalayan 450 would be my choice.

  • @gdbenji3278
    @gdbenji3278 7 месяцев назад

    Awesome technical video, helps to decide right bike. 🎉 Pls compare with Honda Nx500 vs Triumph scrambler 400x and Himalyan 450

  • @satkap
    @satkap 11 месяцев назад

    Very thoughtful and learned decision.. i respect it.
    Two questions-
    1- where is this location of shoot?
    2- what do you do for a living? Just curious
    Best regards

  • @virendra360
    @virendra360 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great conversation

  • @birchwoodbiker
    @birchwoodbiker 10 месяцев назад

    Great video as we get older we get more sensable🤣👍👍

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  10 месяцев назад

      You got that right! 😀
      To be precise, as I grow older, I get less stupid.

  • @upward_onward
    @upward_onward 5 месяцев назад

    I was of the impression that V-Strom 650 would be better than Himi...given that compact cars were over taking me on the highway 😂😂😂😂
    Make much sense, after your deliberation.
    Breathe taking view plus calm cool discussion.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks.
      The choice depends on what one seeks from a motorcycle. To be the "fastest" or the "coolest" or "just minding own business".

    • @upward_onward
      @upward_onward 5 месяцев назад

      @@bigbearbangalore currently I'm with Himalayan 411....while doing Dimapur( Nagaland) to Kanyakumari(Kerala) , I often came across instance where Alto 800 would over take.
      Instant thought, was had I with V-strom 650 story would have been different.
      But with 450 doing 110-120 km/hr in Indian highway with no stress in engine. It's a subject in the check box.

  • @shonith91
    @shonith91 10 месяцев назад

    Money saved is money earned. I had taken a similar decision last year when i let go of my rx100.

  • @souptikgarai886
    @souptikgarai886 10 месяцев назад

    Hi Bosky! Very interesting content. I wonder if you've considered NX500 as an alternative to your vstrom! It's expensive than himalayan but definitely a much better package with balance, weight distribution and much smoother...

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes it's a great machine. And for that price I bought the H450 and 400X.

  • @NadimfaiyazTony
    @NadimfaiyazTony 11 месяцев назад +1

    Beautifully reviewed.

  • @rajpandiyan5153
    @rajpandiyan5153 11 месяцев назад

    Hello sirs you are doing a great job... M loving it...
    Need a suggestion:-
    I own a TB350 rode around 65K in 7 yrs. Planning to change now. Which one should I go for as per your thoughts... I'm tall and slightly helfty too😅. Mostly will ride in city and once in a while long ride with a pillion... Pls help me choosing...

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      Hello. Plenty of choices of shape size weight design power budget etc. Please shortlist 3 and I can share my thoughts. Thanks.

    • @rajpandiyan5153
      @rajpandiyan5153 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@bigbearbangalore
      Hello sir,
      As of now I got only these two oscilating.... Obviously you can also pls give your suggestions sir budget 3.5 L...
      Scram 411
      310 GS
      Meteor 350

  • @SanKiranKReddy
    @SanKiranKReddy 11 месяцев назад

    Experience speaks 😎👌👌👍👍🙏🙏🙏

  • @manjunathp7476
    @manjunathp7476 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wonderful. Makes sense.

  • @SarvanDhadhich
    @SarvanDhadhich 11 месяцев назад +3

    Try Honda NX500 & please make a video of it also

  • @TheWanderTraveller
    @TheWanderTraveller 10 месяцев назад

    During Raider Mania, Siddhartha Lal stated that the Himalayan 450 is a practical adventure bike that can compete with the Tiger, GS, and others Adventure bikes.
    I put it as #PracticalBike

  • @PradeepC-d2c
    @PradeepC-d2c 11 месяцев назад

    Bosky avre... location yavdu? Superb agide 👌

  • @Renu007Kumar
    @Renu007Kumar 11 месяцев назад

    I loved the Himalayan being a Yamaha fan who is in no mood to launch the Tenere in India... Holding myself waiting for the Xpulse 400

  • @milindkorhale9884
    @milindkorhale9884 11 месяцев назад

    Kudos to both of you 😎

  • @arijitchief
    @arijitchief 11 месяцев назад

    For someone who's been working on his own bikes for so long, are you really certifying an Enfield bike for "quality"? That's a huge thing, coming from an experienced person like you...helps build our trust in the brand...I thought your choice would have been the Honda NX500 or the new upcoming KTM 390...

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      I did not give a certificate! 😃
      It's a decision based on reality and practicality and preference of where my motorcycling life is at and how much I wish to invest on a motorcycle. I now have 2 brilliant motorcycles, the H450 and the 400X, for the price of a used V650 or new NX500.
      And if the all new 390ADV turns out to be really really good, I would consider it at that time.

  • @TUHIN_SVLOG1970
    @TUHIN_SVLOG1970 11 месяцев назад +2

    Can u pls review NX500? Wish u good luck from Bangladesh.🇧🇩❤️🇧🇩

  • @hussainpalitanawala3999
    @hussainpalitanawala3999 11 месяцев назад

    I took the test ride, 70-80 km/hr it’s awesome and very smooth, on Mumbai road I was not able to manage higher speeds (but after 80 it was not a good feeling) you can feel the buzziness in the front end of the bike. As per your review as well as others after 120 it is smooth again, mostly cruising speed on Indian roads 100-120, after that, it is too risky.
    I got fully confused, I did not book, and as of now, I am wait-and-watch situation.
    Can you suggest how to control buzziness after 80...?

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад

      Get used to the buzz is one way. It's not intrusive at all for me. I barely notice it. Have covered 4,000 kms as on date.

    • @hussainpalitanawala3999
      @hussainpalitanawala3999 11 месяцев назад

      @@bigbearbangalore thank you for your response. Will reconsider it again. Planning for bit longer test ride. Once again Thank you.

  • @AbhiAdhi10
    @AbhiAdhi10 11 месяцев назад

    Great content, Bosky and Ck! It would be fantastic if you could suggest a better bike under 3.8 lakhs. I was almost set on booking the scrambler 400 after watching several of your playlists. However, after watching your best middleweight video, I found myself torn between the H450 and S400. I really need your suggestion here, especially considering Bangalore traffic and expressway rides, as well as occasional rides for peace of mind. Your help is much appreciated!

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад +1

      Tough choice. Test ride and choose the one you feel good on.

    • @AbhiAdhi10
      @AbhiAdhi10 11 месяцев назад

      @@bigbearbangalore even after test ride I am not able to conclude hence seeking expert suggestion here 🥰

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  11 месяцев назад +1

      Please watch the 450 vs 400 video posted a few days ago. It may contain some answers.

    • @AbhiAdhi10
      @AbhiAdhi10 11 месяцев назад

      @@bigbearbangalore thank you

  • @baahubalii
    @baahubalii 11 месяцев назад

    Thinking about a single bike garage, Xpulse 2004V is not bad option considering its low price tag. Any plan of selling Xpulse? 😂. Yes it has limitations on express ways but overall it's not bad